@@WorkinwithWolkon the point of following regulations that INCASE it does fail the cement board is stronger. It’s code in the uk. Hoses move things settle and crack over years. Just because you’ve done a amazing job doesn’t mean that sometime in the future there will be water getting in. Water could get in from else where than the bathroom… I’ve been running a construction company for 20 years and am on my way to work on 1.5 million £ house today. Where the bathroom will be done the RIGHT way 🤣
@@DanO181919it was probably other materials around the concrete board that rotted. You can actually soak concrete board in water for years, it will dry out and still be usable.
I’m just assuming most of the people here aren’t taking in to account “condensation” that builds up on alternating hot/cold surfaces. Shower gets hot, then cools down, condensation. Show is cold, then warms up, condensation. Concrete board holds up under condensation. Sheetrock barely holds up under a sneeze.
Waterproofing looks great! I would highly recommend using plywood under the sheetrock for the bench. The sheetrock by itself may not be strong enough to support people well.
@@cosmosistprograms4970 with drywall in ur shower say u put ur arm on the wall to support ur body weight while ur washing ur feet flamingo style. Will the Sheetrock hold the weight? I’m brand new brother just a quick question. Appreciate u my friend 🫡🫡
No offense to your post, but any drywall with whatever rating becomes a sponge when it gets wet. And any that says mold or moisture resistant is complete rubbish. I’ve demoed so many showers with green board full of mold… drywall in showers and tub surrounds should’ve stayed back in the 1980’s. Cement board if not waterproofed will absorb water, but at least it won’t turn to mush like drywall.
@@stevenstevens6904 I'd honest feel more comfortable with cement board but that's just me 😬 not something I'd want have to do again when it's not that much more expensive in the grand total, not sure how big your shower is tho lol
I just bought Hardy Decker Board this week; it's water proof cement board. I installed it and then added thinset over the seams and used membrane tape over the thinset.
I just did a shower surround over a tub. I used drywall and 3 coats of red guard. 1 coat of a surface bond and tiled over. The walls I tore out were drywall and tiles over, they lasted for 25 years. She's good for another 30.
You emphasized that cement boards not waterproof but you forgot to say that drywall is not waterproof either. The cement board is more structurally sound support the weight of tile better than drywall.
I’m super new to remodeling but I was thinking the exact same thing. I rather know for a fact everything is solid than cut any corners. My home or a customers I would do it the same for both.
@@WorkinwithWolkon I wouldn’t care if they were $10.99 at Home Depot . I would choose a mortar bed over a Kerdi pan any day. Germans are smart ….but they dropped the ball on this one for sure. People still request them though. Something about the floor flexing underneath my 250lb ass doesn’t sit well with me …at all…
@Danger Diesel totally agree with you guys! Always use the membrane and mortar for years. Tried a few schluter/kerdi methods...just too expensive and too much time. Note: cement board ( Durock or Permabase) is totally waterproof!
GP's DensShield is my go to backer board for years now never had a problem when following manufacturers recommendations. 100% silicone Caulk for corners/seams (where the sheets meet) mesh the seams and skim thinset over the mesh let dry up and start setting boy's I have messed too much with that bs sheet membrane I'd prefer hot mop on a 2nd floor or higher. Shower systems like kerdi and guru for lower or first floor/concrete sub floor or slab applications just for insurance.
Nice boss. Is it just me or is it really hard to commit on videos. Been trying and I just now found out. How i feel so old but I'm just 42. I get your jive. If you see this I want to help me I'm sure you could figure out how. I'm not sure I can. Been in construction for 42 years. Had a stroke all along now.
I primed my greenboard and tiled right over it. 14 years and its fine. The key is not to allow any grout cracking. If it does crack in corners seal it up with more grout or matching caulk. Sealing the grout prevents any water from getting behind the tile anyway. All these new systems are overkill for people who allow their grout to crack and let water in which shouldnt happen in the first place. steam showers are different of course.
Thats a bold move cotton lets see how it plays out, you made this video using dryall, I used cement board today, lets check in 5 years how our showers are doing.
I would question if a thinset lap joint is actually waterproof or just water resistant?? I think this assembly's longevity will be highly dependent on the frequency of it's use. With today's trends of showers being used four or more times per day, the mortar and thinset are going to be damp all the time. Eventually that moisture would wick through those joints like almost any cementitious product, would it not?
This is Schluter Kerdi membrane which is used for this type of application, waterproofing some drywall. Why? I don”t know lol. If you had studs to begin with it is easier and way better waterproofing if you use either the Schluter Kerdi Boards (which are panels like drywall but made to be waterproof) orrrrr even way better a Wedi shower kit, which is similar to Kerdi board except better and 100% waterproof all the way through the board. The Schluter curbs that he was cutting down are ridiculously big and obnoxious, Wedi has scaled these down to a nice to look at and less offensive size. Also, Wedi comes in full shower kits where Schluter makes you piece it together. HydroBlok is now Wedi’s look a like competitor with almost identical products.
If I can’t get cement board I use paper mache. But you have to use brown flour instead of all purpose. No salt. Way better than drywall. And any leftovers can make piñatas for the kids.
@@phunkdoctaspocki am and you dont install drywall behind tile. Its semi ok behind a shower insert or liner but even then needs to be green board or purple board which is meant for high moisture areas. Cement board is not affected by steam
Cement board is way better than drywall my friend. Mesh tape and mud all joints and corners. Use high quality membrane such as hydraban. Also mud pan with liner and it outlast this method 100-1.
People complaining about this guy using drywall. Its fine. He used Kerdi membrane. The water will be mainly on the floor anyways and it will drain. It’s not a swimming pool.
Sorry I forgot to ask…… you seem very firm on this idea that waterproof drywall is the only option! Could you please clarify where you received this info. I’m very curious because I’ve never heard of any tradesman being this firm on green drywall.
Yea but stuff sticks to backer board real nice. Ever tried to get tile off the floor installed with backer, then pull tile off just subfloor. huge difference
Waterproof wise I don't disagree. But for quality of install a 1/2" piece of cement board is going to be far better. Less movement. Movement equals failure.
20 yrs using kerdi only thing I'd do different be the bench each there own but I think 2 inch kerdi board on top be a better way regardless on stone top ..
@@cttile I know all about Schluter warranty and there is nothing wrong with it. In fact if you could read you would see I’m talking about the substrate being used -drywall. Drywall is weak and molds. So maybe you should shut up and sit down.
Benches should ALWAYS, be cement board regardless because of the weight and point load. Drywall isn’t meant for floors or seating, it’s for walls and ceilings.
Was thin set applied directly on a subfloor then the water proofing membrane? I am planning to replace the tub and make mine a shower on the main level. My understanding is prep, install subfloor, cement and level for proper draining, thin set then the water proofing membrane, thin set and finally the tilling. Please advise. Thanks
In Michigan you were not allowed to use screen anywhere except above the water line in a shower. I can’t imagine that this makes much sense to put it behind kerdi
I have ripped out over 100 showers every single one of them had failures always in the same places. Always the usual suspect areas. Never seen any damage above 3 feet high unless it is a leaky shower control or head! My suspicion is that everyone is going crazy with these waterproofing fabrics myself included. If everyone of us steps back a bit and only waterproofed for example 4 feet high and around the shower control and shower head would the shower last long enough to be out of fashion or look dated? Our industry has turned into a bit of a rat race schlutering ourselves to death including ceilings. Most European installs use cement based products. For me that allows for an attempt and four foot high membrane installs. It is simple either the shower fails or it doesn’t. I believe four feet is enough to reach 25 years + . Definitely worth an aggressive discussion.
If you have ever done demolition of a shower with tile over drywall then you know how easy it comes apart. You can pull off whole sheets of drywall from the wall and tile falls off like it was taped in place
Lets assume for a moment that the drywall will never fail in that shower. That doesnt make it a good idea to use it. Honestly how much more does cement or backer board cost than drywall for that small of an area? 20% more? So $120 for concrete vs $100 for drywall? Id gladly pay that small increase for the safety factor alone. Also you can just pass the increased cost onto the client. What benefit does drywall have if any in this situation? I dont get the logic for drywall. I understand schluter systems will warranty the product over drywall, but thats assuming they will actually pay in the case of a failure ( they probably will not). Most likely they will blame the installer. Also if they do pay you still need to demo out the failed shower and construct a new one.
This is a great way to cut costs on material. Using gypsum is doable but not recommended. It’s prettt arrogant to use gypsum and relying 100% on the kerdi system. Glad it’s not my shower. So I don’t mind. Great production and narration.
this is moisture resistant drywall it’s required by code, most people here are probably like working in an pffice or retail workers. but online they are experts
Obviously the goal is zero water damage, but you can watch countless waterproofing videos and most of the are done with “just in case” precautions. Use cement board “just in case” water finds its way back there
If it’s not epoxy grout, which is the only one rated waterproof, then water wicks into it, then into the thinset. But, another issue is using real stone in showers. It has to be sealed often or the water also wicks into them and if regular grout is used, sealed or not, then you get effervescence and calcification. A real pain in the neck.
Cement board isn’t waterproof, but typically it’s sealed with a waterproofing membrane(hydroban, redguard) which in the end is cheaper than a Kerdi-Schluter system. Not hating whatsoever but there’s pros and cons to each.
"Sorry to break it to you".. oooo k. You got it. Not sure if you do this for a living or not. Don't want to criticize diyrs to hard if u are. Either way. Ctef or proper tiling schools would never teach this method. In no way worth saving a couple hundred. Kerdi board? Hardi+redgaurd among other choices. But I'm sure you already know the brands.
I don't understand why people go through all this time and trouble... Just apply three or four coats of aqua defense and you're done... Just make sure you fiber your corners... I've seen so many failed schluter systems it's not funny
It all comes down to preference. I’ve used redgard a few times and I just personally prefer schluter. I’m not a fan of cement board and I really like the prefab pans. Also the drying time between coats is something to consider
Scooter board is far better than the Schluter membrane to install you wasted a lot of Labour doing that should have just use sluder board but I agree with you backer board concrete board will fail so will those concrete mud pan
As a tile guy myself, I don't have a problem with kerdi over greenboard after all, it is manufacturer approved and warranted by Schluter as long as the entire system is followed to the letter, however I personally use KBRS shower pans and a product called GoBoard for the walls because it is lightweight and waterproof from the factory, all butt joints get "welded" with KBRS ShowerSeal, an extremely effective polyurethane caulk and then I do all my waterproofing steps on top of it. My problem here is all of your credibility went out the window as soon as I saw your bench framing, you didn't put a single support attaching the front to the wall, and you should've had at least 3, 4 even better, one on the inside, one on the outside and another 1 or 2 centered in between, do better next time and hope that a 300lb man isn't using that bench for a long time
Personally I just put extra thinset towards the back end of it and then set a level on it until it’s pitched inwards. You can measure for 1/4” over 1’ span but I personally just eye ball it for benches/niches/curbs using a small level
Kerdi Does not have a good track record. I have been doing tile for 32 years.. I have replaced more Kerdi systems with hardiebacker after 12 to 24 months..
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Cement board will take the water damage a lot better than the plasterboard
1 million percent
It shouldn’t be taking any water damage that’s the point of this video
@@WorkinwithWolkon the point of following regulations that INCASE it does fail the cement board is stronger. It’s code in the uk. Hoses move things settle and crack over years. Just because you’ve done a amazing job doesn’t mean that sometime in the future there will be water getting in. Water could get in from else where than the bathroom… I’ve been running a construction company for 20 years and am on my way to work on 1.5 million £ house today. Where the bathroom will be done the RIGHT way 🤣
@@DanO181919 you’re talking out your arse mate I’m literally a project manager cement board doesn’t rot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DanO181919it was probably other materials around the concrete board that rotted. You can actually soak concrete board in water for years, it will dry out and still be usable.
I’m just assuming most of the people here aren’t taking in to account “condensation” that builds up on alternating hot/cold surfaces.
Shower gets hot, then cools down, condensation.
Show is cold, then warms up, condensation.
Concrete board holds up under condensation.
Sheetrock barely holds up under a sneeze.
In Michigan we have a law that says you cannot use green board anywhere within a wet area. Putting it behind doesn’t make it better.
Waterproofing looks great! I would highly recommend using plywood under the sheetrock for the bench. The sheetrock by itself may not be strong enough to support people well.
Had a thick piece of stone on top so that’s what I used for the support, but yes plywood always a good idea!
I’m not tile installer but I understood the cement board is to support the weight of the tile and thinset.
Yeah I would use cement board for a tiled ceiling but the drywall will support the wall tile just fine
@@cosmosistprograms4970 with drywall in ur shower say u put ur arm on the wall to support ur body weight while ur washing ur feet flamingo style. Will the Sheetrock hold the weight?
I’m brand new brother just a quick question. Appreciate u my friend 🫡🫡
No offense to your post, but any drywall with whatever rating becomes a sponge when it gets wet. And any that says mold or moisture resistant is complete rubbish. I’ve demoed so many showers with green board full of mold… drywall in showers and tub surrounds should’ve stayed back in the 1980’s. Cement board if not waterproofed will absorb water, but at least it won’t turn to mush like drywall.
@@stevenstevens6904 I'd honest feel more comfortable with cement board but that's just me 😬 not something I'd want have to do again when it's not that much more expensive in the grand total, not sure how big your shower is tho lol
no cement board does not break down when water goes to it - its just like the wet trades you dont plaster a bathroom you use hardwall.
I just bought Hardy Decker Board this week; it's water proof cement board. I installed it and then added thinset over the seams and used membrane tape over the thinset.
I just did a shower surround over a tub. I used drywall and 3 coats of red guard. 1 coat of a surface bond and tiled over. The walls I tore out were drywall and tiles over, they lasted for 25 years. She's good for another 30.
Red guard is the bomb
Just gutted one of my bathrooms.this is the video that I’ve been waiting for!! Thanks 👊🏾🙏🏾
You would hope right. Most tile guys hate epoxy grout, they constantly whine about how hard it is to use and that it sets to fast. Bunch 9f babies
IDK, cement board is much more Ridgid. I would be more inclined to use it so tile and corners don't crack as easily.
LMAO!!! Cement board is the flimsiest garbage product ever invented. It's weak, heavy, and cuts like shit. You are wrong.
Yea I am doin a shower with 1/2” durock walls and I’m shocked by how much it flexes
@@eliotkrueger7811dura rock and hardi back are a little different
You emphasized that cement boards not waterproof but you forgot to say that drywall is not waterproof either. The cement board is more structurally sound support the weight of tile better than drywall.
I’m super new to remodeling but I was thinking the exact same thing. I rather know for a fact everything is solid than cut any corners. My home or a customers I would do it the same for both.
Pre fab pans will never compare to a mortar bed with shower pan liner ….way more solid …no flex ….and highly effective when done right
@Danger Diesel hell to the yeah on that !!
You can get a 4’x5’ kerdi pan for >$150 and install it in 10 minutes. Depending on what you bill yourself out at it just makes sense imo
@@WorkinwithWolkon I wouldn’t care if they were $10.99 at Home Depot . I would choose a mortar bed over a Kerdi pan any day. Germans are smart ….but they dropped the ball on this one for sure. People still request them though. Something about the floor flexing underneath my 250lb ass doesn’t sit well with me …at all…
@Danger Diesel totally agree with you guys! Always use the membrane and mortar for years. Tried a few schluter/kerdi methods...just too expensive and too much time. Note: cement board ( Durock or Permabase) is totally waterproof!
Wow this is genius! Thanks so much. Going to start doing all my showers this way. :)
GP's DensShield is my go to backer board for years now never had a problem when following manufacturers recommendations. 100% silicone Caulk for corners/seams (where the sheets meet) mesh the seams and skim thinset over the mesh let dry up and start setting boy's I have messed too much with that bs sheet membrane I'd prefer hot mop on a 2nd floor or higher. Shower systems like kerdi and guru for lower or first floor/concrete sub floor or slab applications just for insurance.
Nice boss. Is it just me or is it really hard to commit on videos. Been trying and I just now found out. How i feel so old but I'm just 42. I get your jive. If you see this I want to help me I'm sure you could figure out how. I'm not sure I can. Been in construction for 42 years. Had a stroke all along now.
Using drywall, definitely using epoxy grout
I primed my greenboard and tiled right over it. 14 years and its fine. The key is not to allow any grout cracking. If it does crack in corners seal it up with more grout or matching caulk. Sealing the grout prevents any water from getting behind the tile anyway. All these new systems are overkill for people who allow their grout to crack and let water in which shouldnt happen in the first place. steam showers are different of course.
Thats a bold move cotton lets see how it plays out, you made this video using dryall, I used cement board today, lets check in 5 years how our showers are doing.
I would question if a thinset lap joint is actually waterproof or just water resistant?? I think this assembly's longevity will be highly dependent on the frequency of it's use. With today's trends of showers being used four or more times per day, the mortar and thinset are going to be damp all the time. Eventually that moisture would wick through those joints like almost any cementitious product, would it not?
this is exactly what I wanted to see thank you for posting
This is Schluter Kerdi membrane which is used for this type of application, waterproofing some drywall. Why? I don”t know lol. If you had studs to begin with it is easier and way better waterproofing if you use either the Schluter Kerdi Boards (which are panels like drywall but made to be waterproof) orrrrr even way better a Wedi shower kit, which is similar to Kerdi board except better and 100% waterproof all the way through the board. The Schluter curbs that he was cutting down are ridiculously big and obnoxious, Wedi has scaled these down to a nice to look at and less offensive size. Also, Wedi comes in full shower kits where Schluter makes you piece it together. HydroBlok is now Wedi’s look a like competitor with almost identical products.
If I can’t get cement board I use paper mache. But you have to use brown flour instead of all purpose. No salt. Way better than drywall. And any leftovers can make piñatas for the kids.
This is an underrated comment
Sorry buddy I've been trying this for a few days now you were the first one I found the right button for.
Did you build an actual house or a 3d Lego wall? Just judging by the flooring at the end of the vid
Pros don't use Drywall.
Are YOU a pro?
@@phunkdoctaspocki am and you dont install drywall behind tile. Its semi ok behind a shower insert or liner but even then needs to be green board or purple board which is meant for high moisture areas. Cement board is not affected by steam
Cement board is way better than drywall my friend. Mesh tape and mud all joints and corners. Use high quality membrane such as hydraban. Also mud pan with liner and it outlast this method 100-1.
Agreed. Still using that method for over 30years. Never a problem
@@tonyc7090 most tile guys now a days don’t even know what a mud pan is.
People complaining about this guy using drywall. Its fine. He used Kerdi membrane. The water will be mainly on the floor anyways and it will drain. It’s not a swimming pool.
Sorry I forgot to ask…… you seem very firm on this idea that waterproof drywall is the only option! Could you please clarify where you received this info. I’m very curious because I’ve never heard of any tradesman being this firm on green drywall.
Anybody who thought plain cementboard is waterproof without a watersealant, shouldn't be building a shower enclosure. That's pretty gradeschool.
Yeah good luck with that guarantee you getting a call back in about six months from the homeowner when mold sets up in the room behind that shower
Yea but stuff sticks to backer board real nice. Ever tried to get tile off the floor installed with backer, then pull tile off just subfloor. huge difference
Waterproof wise I don't disagree. But for quality of install a 1/2" piece of cement board is going to be far better. Less movement. Movement equals failure.
My favorite step is the water test. Just chilling for a solid 24
I was advised not to tile over the physical membrane as it may not hold the tiles as well. How much truth is there to this, if any?🤔
Cement board should be used if you using a heavier tile. Drywall also gets moldy very quick due to condensation.
But you would have to use cement board if installing tile in the shower, right?
Sorry, I'm not using drywall in the shower. And guess what...green board is only water and mold "resistant". You're thinking of Denshield
Concrete walls with crystal capillary action (Xypex or similar products) is better waterproofing. It's what they use in metros, public swimming pools.
Yea, if it’s an outside wall, don’t use drywall due to condensation!
20 yrs using kerdi only thing I'd do different be the bench each there own but I think 2 inch kerdi board on top be a better way regardless on stone top ..
Lawsuit my boi. Stop using drywall in shower. Look up manufacturer info and warranty for the moisture board. RIP
Schluter warrantees it’s product over drywall. You shouldn’t make a comment you know nothing about.
@@cttile I know all about Schluter warranty and there is nothing wrong with it. In fact if you could read you would see I’m talking about the substrate being used -drywall. Drywall is weak and molds. So maybe you should shut up and sit down.
Benches should ALWAYS, be cement board regardless because of the weight and point load. Drywall isn’t meant for floors or seating, it’s for walls and ceilings.
Was thin set applied directly on a subfloor then the water proofing membrane? I am planning to replace the tub and make mine a shower on the main level. My understanding is prep, install subfloor, cement and level for proper draining, thin set then the water proofing membrane, thin set and finally the tilling. Please advise. Thanks
that drywall will do great with the humidity, pretty smart.
In Michigan you were not allowed to use screen anywhere except above the water line in a shower. I can’t imagine that this makes much sense to put it behind kerdi
I have ripped out over 100 showers every single one of them had failures always in the same places. Always the usual suspect areas. Never seen any damage above 3 feet high unless it is a leaky shower control or head! My suspicion is that everyone is going crazy with these waterproofing fabrics myself included. If everyone of us steps back a bit and only waterproofed for example 4 feet high and around the shower control and shower head would the shower last long enough to be out of fashion or look dated? Our industry has turned into a bit of a rat race schlutering ourselves to death including ceilings.
Most European installs use cement based products. For me that allows for an attempt and four foot high membrane installs. It is simple either the shower fails or it doesn’t. I believe four feet is enough to reach 25 years + . Definitely worth an aggressive discussion.
If you have ever done demolition of a shower with tile over drywall then you know how easy it comes apart. You can pull off whole sheets of drywall from the wall and tile falls off like it was taped in place
Lets assume for a moment that the drywall will never fail in that shower. That doesnt make it a good idea to use it. Honestly how much more does cement or backer board cost than drywall for that small of an area? 20% more? So $120 for concrete vs $100 for drywall? Id gladly pay that small increase for the safety factor alone. Also you can just pass the increased cost onto the client. What benefit does drywall have if any in this situation? I dont get the logic for drywall. I understand schluter systems will warranty the product over drywall, but thats assuming they will actually pay in the case of a failure ( they probably will not). Most likely they will blame the installer. Also if they do pay you still need to demo out the failed shower and construct a new one.
Those first two sentences will make an average problem solver scream
There is this wonderful thing called red guard
why use drywall over cement board? cuts easier?
this guy has a point !!
You ever heard of condensation?
This is a great way to cut costs on material. Using gypsum is doable but not recommended.
It’s prettt arrogant to use gypsum and relying 100% on the kerdi system.
Glad it’s not my shower. So I don’t mind. Great production and narration.
Don’t Sheetrock in showers bad practice g if your cement board fails it’s because you suck not because it’s “not waterproof”
What do you mean! That tells us everything about her, and her education
this is moisture resistant drywall it’s required by code, most people here are probably like working in an pffice or retail workers. but online they are experts
Obviously the goal is zero water damage, but you can watch countless waterproofing videos and most of the are done with “just in case” precautions. Use cement board “just in case” water finds its way back there
How does the water get through the grout and the thinset mortar? Are you using stick down tiles in this application?
If it’s not epoxy grout, which is the only one rated waterproof, then water wicks into it, then into the thinset. But, another issue is using real stone in showers. It has to be sealed often or the water also wicks into them and if regular grout is used, sealed or not, then you get effervescence and calcification. A real pain in the neck.
Funny to watch when someone thinks they outsmarted everyone else. Go ahead and use drywall for your subfloor too. Wood is expensive.
the gypsum holds water if and when it fails casuing mold and rot issue turns it into mud...no bueno
Dont use drywall..its not meant for moisture from steam
Lol. Drywall isn’t waterproof either. But the kerdi is what waterproofs it.
DensShield is a better tile backer board
Cement board isn’t waterproof, but typically it’s sealed with a waterproofing membrane(hydroban, redguard) which in the end is cheaper than a Kerdi-Schluter system. Not hating whatsoever but there’s pros and cons to each.
Most tiled showers will eventually leak
The stud framing will move around parts will wear out and fail overtime.
So much work just use corian solid surface
So can I water proof my shower with regular drywall and red gard
no, this schluter membrane is made specific for drywall, you would want to use cement board if your going with red guard
"Sorry to break it to you".. oooo k. You got it. Not sure if you do this for a living or not. Don't want to criticize diyrs to hard if u are. Either way. Ctef or proper tiling schools would never teach this method. In no way worth saving a couple hundred. Kerdi board? Hardi+redgaurd among other choices. But I'm sure you already know the brands.
I don't understand why people go through all this time and trouble... Just apply three or four coats of aqua defense and you're done... Just make sure you fiber your corners...
I've seen so many failed schluter systems it's not funny
It all comes down to preference. I’ve used redgard a few times and I just personally prefer schluter. I’m not a fan of cement board and I really like the prefab pans. Also the drying time between coats is something to consider
Scooter board is far better than the Schluter membrane to install you wasted a lot of Labour doing that should have just use sluder board but I agree with you backer board concrete board will fail so will those concrete mud pan
You are so talented. Lord bless you greatly.
Or simply make cement house like we do in Serbia instead of using wood cardboard lol
Why not only cement board ?
Shouldn’t the pan go under the walls..?
We just paint the hardie backer with redgard & mesh tape the seams lol
So more work? Yikes
Drywall is never used in a shower what a joke !
I like Laticrete hydro board
Same with drywall. Any water leaks ever. It's all over.
How to waterproof a shower. Get on the phone and call the hot mopper
Green board is not waterproof at all. Cement board will not fall apart. Thin set on the cement board as you tile it makes it waterproof.
Can drywall handle the weight of the tile?
Yes
As a tile guy myself, I don't have a problem with kerdi over greenboard after all, it is manufacturer approved and warranted by Schluter as long as the entire system is followed to the letter, however I personally use KBRS shower pans and a product called GoBoard for the walls because it is lightweight and waterproof from the factory, all butt joints get "welded" with KBRS ShowerSeal, an extremely effective polyurethane caulk and then I do all my waterproofing steps on top of it. My problem here is all of your credibility went out the window as soon as I saw your bench framing, you didn't put a single support attaching the front to the wall, and you should've had at least 3, 4 even better, one on the inside, one on the outside and another 1 or 2 centered in between, do better next time and hope that a 300lb man isn't using that bench for a long time
This is green board not dry wall i hope
Drywall for in the shower? Smh 😂😂
Never use drywall. Ever. I actually use goboard then put the kerdi over it. 2x waterproofing.
You logic for picking plasterboard over cement board is extremely flawed. Plaster dissolves faster then cement board when wet
the effort to install the drywall, you should have installed something else. thin set is not water proof
uh, drywall, not even green board, is definitely not water proof and if given a choice it should NEVER be used in a shower.
How many days does it take for you to normally run through a bathroom?
2 weeks for a basic 60sqft 3/4 piece remove and replace
3 weeks for a more complex 100sqft 5 piece
@@WorkinwithWolkon nice bro, definitely motivating. Keep doing your thing! 🤝
And then in 6 months, it leaks
V notch not to spec, but you be you
I go ahead and go ahead and then i go ahead
You have no pitch in the shower floor? V
Do you slope the bench seat frame so water runs off?
@@cosmosistprograms4970 is there a certain technique to pitch the tile?
Personally I just put extra thinset towards the back end of it and then set a level on it until it’s pitched inwards. You can measure for 1/4” over 1’ span but I personally just eye ball it for benches/niches/curbs using a small level
Nice video 👍
What a overkill...
Kerdi Does not have a good track record. I have been doing tile for 32 years.. I have replaced more Kerdi systems with hardiebacker after 12 to 24 months..
Really? What goes wrong?
Strip drain you should not have a step around your shower, very dangerous for older people.
Drywall is not waterproof. Its moisture resistant. Use a waterproof foam board
No way
@@WorkinwithWolkon ok don't use actual waterproof board. You're using schluter membrane why not use schluter board?
@keithscofield4583 because it cuts into his profit...but in my opinion well spent money💰
@keithscofield4583 because it cuts into his profit...but in my opinion well spent money💰
Kerdi products are super expensive
Thinset is not waterproof cement board boards all the way then u water proof the whole shower
Schluter system isn’t completely waterproof 📢