Seems non-complaint as the corner gaps (bond breaker) were not filled with flexible sealant before putting the waterproofing membrane. This is as per AS 3740 - 2010
Same as Courtney's recent comment below, I need to waterproof a plywood floor. Mine is for a campervan shower tray, can I use 38FC and then use gripset weather seal over the top for a white finish?
Hi, Sikaflex is solvent based sealant and apart from been hazardous to your health the product is not compatible with water based products. Unlike sealants Gripset Elastoproof B50 Joint band requires no drying time to overcoat, has up to 100% elastic recovery and rupture resistant its compatible with all 3 membrane classes and also unlike sealants is developed solely for this purpose. Multiphane is solvent based and would not work great for project in video as its specified as a bonded system and there will be a membrane over screed for direct tile as your probably aware solvent based membranes do not allow cement based products like screeds and tile adhesives to bond and there would be a high risk of failure. Thanks for watching!
Hi Courtney, please email us at info@gripset.com with more details of what you're trying to achieve, but ultimately 38FC can't be used in this way. Thanks for your support.
Hi, the application shown in the video is for a fully tiled bathroom using polymer modified, cement based tile adhesive, for advice on what specific materials are compatible to use over Gripset Membranes, send your enquiry to info@gripset.com, thanks for watching!
Hi, Was there a fall towards the puddle flange or did you just apply first coat of waterproofing and then you may also use another puddle flange ontop and tie it into the screed??? Just thinking if water does penetrate, will it just sit stagnant? Can anyone help me with this query, as im about to waterproof my shower and been watching all the Gripset vids and looking abit of clarity.
For further clarity, ive got a wall to wall shower, with a 90mm curb to entrance. At the moment the whole area is lined in cement sheet, puddle flange is recessed in just below the cement sheet level and the cement sheet is mounted directly on the yellowtongue flooring beneath, sitting perfectly level. Theoretically, water will never leave the shower area as the curb will always keep it within, but im worried about stagnant water not finding its way to puddle flange.
I understand using a bond breaker on the wall to floor junctions. But shouldn't you also use a bond breaker on the joins in the flooring substrate - not a reinforcing bandage lie you did in this video?
hi vzgsxr, CFC sheet installed in this video was epoxy joined and sealant applied prior to membrane application, Gripset Elastoproof joint band could have been used to seal and act as a bond breaker. Thanks
Follow the Manufacturer Directions This is the way this product is Used It Tried and Proven If Don't mind me saying you are doing What most do , you mix the application Up , Different brands use Different application it to do with the Make up Of product Ps You don't run Different Brands of Tyres on one car
Hi Antonio, Gripset B50 Elastoproof used at all the corner junctions offers a instant ready to coat waterproof junction and far superior performance than any sealant based bond breaker we guaranty it will out last caulk. Floor joints where sealed with sealant, give us a call on 1800 650 435 to organise a product demo, thanks for watching.
Should U neutral cure silicone the internals first to back up the wall more solid before taping ?.. I think leaving that air behind the internal isn't right. Your doing it wrong
Long story but I recently bought a two story place and have had to do an unplanned bathroom Reno upstairs. I ended up installing the puddle flange myself thanks to your videos and I've had my tiler do the waterproofing as I'm not licensed... But he's done one coat and looks like it could use another coat, can you do two coats?
Hi In0centz, Standard requirements can be found in AS3740 waterproofing of domestic wet areas and National Constriction Code, Gripset can recommend and issue specifications for projects to clarify details, just shoot us an email info@gripset.com and thanks for watching!
Seems the puddle flange is not rebated in the floor which will make it the highest point. This is contradictory to other gripset videos and to common sense....
Are gripset membranes specifically the 38fc and the Xpress, how are they with ponding water and re emulsification? Imo I would like to see the satisfactory falls created on the substrate using a gripset 11y and DM feather screed mix and then prime and waterproof over that?
@@GripsetIndustriesPTYLtd If the floor and membrane is flat, isn't this non compliant to AS3740? Section 2.3.1 states 'Where a floor waste is required in a wet area, the membrane shall be applied to a substrate with a minimum 1:100 fall towards the floor waste'. I would think there is risk of ponding if the membrane is flat.
@@w37320 Hi Will, this is correct. This is one of the notable changes to the 2021 standard. The membrane must be applied over a graded surface with fall to alleviate any ponding. All Gripset wet area membranes are resistant to re-emulsification once cured. Thanks for watching :)
Hey, I’m wondering why the internal & external folds have the elastic exposed (facing out) but in this vid and others I’ve seen the joint roll is applied facing in? Does it have an effect on performance depending on what way it is?
Hi Cain, Mark edges of flange with a pencil, use a cup grinder to create the recess to the nominal thickness of the flange. Glue flange to pipe and floor surface.
Thank you,you have the best video from all which I found. ❤
Hi Avp, thank you for watching! Happy waterproofing :)
Excellent, detailed, precise job. Thankyou and well done.
wow do you even caulk bro
Seems non-complaint as the corner gaps (bond breaker) were not filled with flexible sealant before putting the waterproofing membrane. This is as per AS 3740 - 2010
The audio seems to cut out after 1 second into the video. Hopefully that can be fixed
Same for me. No audio.
Same as Courtney's recent comment below, I need to waterproof a plywood floor. Mine is for a campervan shower tray, can I use 38FC and then use gripset weather seal over the top for a white finish?
Hi Mike, Visit our website and check out Gripset BRW PF or drop us a line at info@gripset.com for our recommendations, thanks for watching!
If water gets under tiles there will be long term problems. Good luck with a bit of paint on the subfloor
why use perimeter bondbreakers when sikaflex is available then 1 good coat of multithane . works great!
Hi, Sikaflex is solvent based sealant and apart from been hazardous to your health the product is not compatible with water based products.
Unlike sealants Gripset Elastoproof B50 Joint band requires no drying time to overcoat, has up to 100% elastic recovery and rupture resistant its compatible with all 3 membrane classes and also unlike sealants is developed solely for this purpose. Multiphane is solvent based and would not work great for project in video as its specified as a bonded system and there will be a membrane over screed for direct tile as your probably aware solvent based membranes do not allow cement based products like screeds and tile adhesives to bond and there would be a high risk of failure. Thanks for watching!
@@GripsetIndustriesPTYLtd still works well here for us in Australia.. yours looks good too.
@@stephenc4161 what's the best stuff to use in Aus mate?
@@liamjenkins82 multithane mate.
Elastomeric membrane.
Idiot proof
@@stephenc4161 must be made for me!! Is it readily available. That k's for the reply. So many products out their
So at the rate your applying that then you'll need about 8 coats to achieve 1.2mm dry film
I need this to waterproof a plywood floor and I dont want to add flooring on top. Can I just seal it and leave it as is and will this work on plywood?
Hi Courtney, please email us at info@gripset.com with more details of what you're trying to achieve, but ultimately 38FC can't be used in this way. Thanks for your support.
So, I take it, vinyl flooring cement will stick to this material and can be painted over on the walls where it sticks up above the edge trim board.
Hi, the application shown in the video is for a fully tiled bathroom using polymer modified, cement based tile adhesive, for advice on what specific materials are compatible to use over Gripset Membranes, send your enquiry to info@gripset.com, thanks for watching!
Hi,
Was there a fall towards the puddle flange or did you just apply first coat of waterproofing and then you may also use another puddle flange ontop and tie it into the screed???
Just thinking if water does penetrate, will it just sit stagnant?
Can anyone help me with this query, as im about to waterproof my shower and been watching all the Gripset vids and looking abit of clarity.
For further clarity, ive got a wall to wall shower, with a 90mm curb to entrance. At the moment the whole area is lined in cement sheet, puddle flange is recessed in just below the cement sheet level and the cement sheet is mounted directly on the yellowtongue flooring beneath, sitting perfectly level.
Theoretically, water will never leave the shower area as the curb will always keep it within, but im worried about stagnant water not finding its way to puddle flange.
Hello George, could you give us a call on 1800 650 435 and somebody from our technical team will be able to help you out!
thank you
Nice job 👍.
Thank you for your support:)
I understand using a bond breaker on the wall to floor junctions. But shouldn't you also use a bond breaker on the joins in the flooring substrate - not a reinforcing bandage lie you did in this video?
hi vzgsxr, CFC sheet installed in this video was epoxy joined and sealant applied prior to membrane application, Gripset Elastoproof joint band could have been used to seal and act as a bond breaker. Thanks
Follow the Manufacturer Directions
This is the way this product is Used
It Tried and Proven
If Don't mind me saying you are doing
What most do , you mix the application
Up , Different brands use Different application it to do with the Make up
Of product
Ps You don't run Different Brands of
Tyres on one car
Question: What is the floor made of ? is this a concrete layer over ply or what is it? Thank you.
Should be cement sheet
U need to use neutral cure silicone on corners first
Hi Jay, with the Gripset tape bond breaker systems there is no requirement for sealants
Royalty free music exists...
this system wont last, need to caulk the joints and use polly for the floor
Hi Antonio, Gripset B50 Elastoproof used at all the corner junctions offers a instant ready to coat waterproof junction and far superior performance than any sealant based bond breaker we guaranty it will out last caulk. Floor joints where sealed with sealant, give us a call on 1800 650 435 to organise a product demo, thanks for watching.
Is a water stop in the shower area not essential ?
Hi Sam yes they are essential, you should always refer to the AUS standards and specific bathroom designs. Well spotted and thanks for watching! :)
Should U neutral cure silicone the internals first to back up the wall more solid before taping ?.. I think leaving that air behind the internal isn't right. Your doing it wrong
Long story but I recently bought a two story place and have had to do an unplanned bathroom Reno upstairs. I ended up installing the puddle flange myself thanks to your videos and I've had my tiler do the waterproofing as I'm not licensed... But he's done one coat and looks like it could use another coat, can you do two coats?
Hi, could you please specify what product was used in your bathroom renovation? thanks
I believe he used ardex not sure on the specs
@@In0centz then you would need to know the name of the product and refer to the TDS used for ardex product
Is this standard practice now??
Hi In0centz, Standard requirements can be found in AS3740 waterproofing of domestic wet areas and National Constriction Code, Gripset can recommend and issue specifications for projects to clarify details, just shoot us an email info@gripset.com and thanks for watching!
Do you sell Gripset in the United States?
Hello Chris, unfortunately we do not sell Gripset in the United States!
Seems the puddle flange is not rebated in the floor which will make it the highest point. This is contradictory to other gripset videos and to common sense....
Hey Frerik you're spot on, we have updated this video, glad you're paying attention and thanks for watching! :)
Is there fall to the puddle flange? Or is the floor level with the puddle flange?
Hi Wan, The Puddle Flange is installed to the substrate which is typically flat. Falls to the waste achieved by laying of a screed.
Are gripset membranes specifically the 38fc and the Xpress, how are they with ponding water and re emulsification?
Imo I would like to see the satisfactory falls created on the substrate using a gripset 11y and DM feather screed mix and then prime and waterproof over that?
@@GripsetIndustriesPTYLtd If the floor and membrane is flat, isn't this non compliant to AS3740? Section 2.3.1 states 'Where a floor waste is required in a wet area, the membrane shall be applied to a substrate with a minimum 1:100 fall towards the floor waste'.
I would think there is risk of ponding if the membrane is flat.
@@w37320 Hi Will, this is correct. This is one of the notable changes to the 2021 standard. The membrane must be applied over a graded surface with fall to alleviate any ponding. All Gripset wet area membranes are resistant to re-emulsification once cured. Thanks for watching :)
Acrylic or Polyurethane ?
Hello Xử Lý Chống Thấm, Gripset 38FC is a water-based liquid membrane.
Bro you missed the waterstop for your shower
Hey, I’m wondering why the internal & external folds have the elastic exposed (facing out) but in this vid and others I’ve seen the joint roll is applied facing in? Does it have an effect on performance depending on what way it is?
How do you go about recessing the cement board to allow the puddle flange to sit slightly below the top of floor.? A diamond router bit??
Hi Cain, Mark edges of flange with a pencil, use a cup grinder to create the recess to the nominal thickness of the flange. Glue flange to pipe and floor surface.
Joint should be sealed rather than sticking that fiber
Why no audio?
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Pointless video with absolute zero information for diy or homeowners.
Probably waterproofing a wet area, I believe you use a shower and bathroom every day
@@paudiegaynor2786 Probabilities and assumptions ain't do nothing to help diyers