What the Galaxy Thought of Vader Immediately After Revenge of the Sith

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  • @StarWarsTheory
    @StarWarsTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Hope you all enjoyed today's video! What would you like to see covered tomorrow?

    • @zacg8975
      @zacg8975 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Does Luke Skywalker hate sand like his father Anakin That's the video I really want to be covered tomorrow And Theory love you bro

    • @kitkatdealer827
      @kitkatdealer827 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How the clones reacted to Order 66

    • @mogyir
      @mogyir ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Legend Luke skywalker after episode 6 (the books)

    • @dallionaire8947
      @dallionaire8947 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Palpatine tells everyone the Jedi came to kill him - yet how does he explain how he survived?

    • @LordBrittish
      @LordBrittish ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kitkatdealer827 Oh snap, I like that idea. Clone PTSD from killing the Jedi they just fought side by side in a war with?

  • @andrewvasquez7872
    @andrewvasquez7872 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    I think seeing a "funeral" for Anakin Skywalker would have been a cool and haunting thing to see in Episode 3. To see Vader looking on as people mourned and talked about Anakin would have been great.

    • @ezekielsparadise4633
      @ezekielsparadise4633 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brooooo now I'm mad it didn't happen😂😂

    • @andrewvasquez7872
      @andrewvasquez7872 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ezekielsparadise4633 haha right?! To me Lucas focused waaay too much on Anakin and Padme's relationship and Anakin's relationship with Ob-Wan and Anakin's relationship with Palpatine and not enough on Anakin as a singular character/Jedi. We never saw how "powerful" he supposedly was, we never saw the great warrior or general he supposedly was.

    • @ezekielsparadise4633
      @ezekielsparadise4633 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Andrew Vasquez exactly. We need an R rated Vader series starting shortly after order 66 and write many flashbacks to add to Anakins story as "new" Canon and show just how powerful Anakin really was. The flashbacks would be consistent throughout season 1 to help people see Anakin and Vader as 1 guy because sometimes for many people it's hard to make the connection. But we would see Good guy Anakin with his same problems, but kinda build the bridge between Anakin and Vader. Vader should give the same energy as Homelander but with way less jokes of course. People fear Vader for a reason. In fact, Vader kills WAAAAY more people than Homelander. That's scary. Vaders presence should be absolutely terrifying.

    • @Quet723
      @Quet723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobody would mourn or even have a funeral for anakin bro slaughtered children in 4K 😭

    • @fancytracy
      @fancytracy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Quet723 Have you watched the video that this comment is about

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can imagine how citizens reacted to Vader. Reports,news. Scary and intimidating. It would be really cool to see Palpatine calling for help in his office :) Really cool :D As for Anakin's death is very touching and emotional. Sad and heroic. Great description. Great video in general :) The Force will be with you too. Always :)

  • @Mr.Wigelsworth
    @Mr.Wigelsworth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love anakin/vader videos keep making them please 🥹💜

  • @getprobed838
    @getprobed838 ปีที่แล้ว

    first when i saw vader, and learned about his sub-par cybernetics...i wondered why...grievous was a beast the way he moved, even the ig droids were beastly....imagine if vader was made better.....

  • @likeluptid
    @likeluptid ปีที่แล้ว

    Because of all the inconsistencies that this novel has with the movies, it is really difficult for me to believe that it was supposed to CONNECT. There is no way you can watch that scene in Attack of the Clones where Count Dooku has a very interesting conversation with Kenobi, then read that novel and the novel make sense. Dooku evidently doesn't consider himself Sith. He's definitely Sith. But in his mind, he did some favors for the Sith Lord Sidious (whom, by the way, he doesn't know is Palpatine), and for 1 or 2 things he even presented himself as a Sitg Lord named Tyrannus, so that the Sith would be connected with the crime in everyone's mind instead of himself, Count Dooku. But after telling Kenobi that the Sith are untrustworthy, corrupt, he wanted Kenobi to join him so that together they destroy the Sith. Dooku's intentions were to replace the Republic, destroy the Jedi, and destroy the Sith, more specifically, Sidious, as he promised the 2 Nemoidians, and that would end government corruption. That's what you get from the movies. The novel presents something else completely. I believe that George Lucas approved the novel, but there is no way he considered it a connection. I don't believe that. The only way I'll believe that is if George Lucas himself directly says that. He approved a lot of things that were inconsistent to his own vision, but that approval does not make it canon.The Sith apprentice, Dooku, doesn't identify himself as Sith, but has a plan to destroy the Sith. He doesn't know that Sidious and Palpatine are the same person. And he does not know that Sidious has a Galactic ambition that will nullify all that Dooku is working hard to establish, a corrupt free government that looks out for the people. Sidious was trying to destablize the Republic and Dooku inadvertently played right into it when he wanted to establish the Confederation; and Sidious kept the Confederation of Planets unstable too, with intentions of BOTH SIDES crumbling into nothing. And Dooku was none the wiser. NONE OF THIS is in that novelization. The opposite is in the novelization. There is no way in all getout, then, that I can be convinced that it was directly connected to the theatrical presentation. There is too much unresolvable conflict between the 2.

  • @dokkanisbestgame5158
    @dokkanisbestgame5158 ปีที่แล้ว +719

    In the eyes of empire officials, Luke was in the same room as the emperor and Darth Vader and was the only one who walked out. Explains why Moff Gideon was scared shitless at the end of the mandalorian

    • @Boomblox5896
      @Boomblox5896 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      If those officials weren't blind, they would see that Luke was carrying Vader on his shoulder, essentially. But maybe people just overlooked that detail because they were trying to escape the second Death Star before it could explode again.

    • @dokkanisbestgame5158
      @dokkanisbestgame5158 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Boomblox5896 well, yeah they were trying to escape

    • @crazyrey5685
      @crazyrey5685 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I see this same type of comment all the damn time

    • @escos0410
      @escos0410 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who was he carrying again?
      I thought it was his father tbh that’s how I looked at it when I was 8 watching it at the theatre

    • @iainballas
      @iainballas ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Boomblox5896 So... in other words, the simple line of thought for bullies to come up with: Luke went in, merced the emperor, then dragged the corpse of his chief enforcer out of an exploding base.

  • @starcabal2006
    @starcabal2006 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    Vader was feared while Anakin was respected. What a tough fall for the young Jedi 😢

    • @mrbubbles6468
      @mrbubbles6468 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Litterally no one respected Anakin. That was kind of his isdue with the Jedi and people.

    • @jrb2135
      @jrb2135 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@mrbubbles6468 You’re both right, Anakin was respected amoung the general public across the galaxy & amoung the clones as a brave hearted war hero with no fear. But amoung the Jedi council and order he wasn’t respected and treated like an outsider a lot

    • @0piumaeternum
      @0piumaeternum ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@mrbubbles6468almost EVERYONE respected anakin, lol did you watch the clone wars? only the jedi council didn’t respect him

    • @guillaumeinjjuz1744
      @guillaumeinjjuz1744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrbubbles6468 facts. He was not liked by others

    • @Speed_Racer.
      @Speed_Racer. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anakin was a simp. He let that piece of skirt padme turn him into the dark side.

  • @unxbabz
    @unxbabz ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Safe to say Darth Vader was one of the most feared Sith Lords of all time!
    Guys I made this comment for cheap likes there’s no need for a war in the replies🙃

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      👍👍

    • @dereklopez9060
      @dereklopez9060 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Without a doubt, one of the most iconic villains in cinema history.

    • @jackolantern147
      @jackolantern147 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      You know you're a big shot when the Sith on Korriban make a tomb for you and not Palpatine.

    • @-Anonymous-.
      @-Anonymous-. ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yea In a time period was there was no threat for him lol. Of course he was feared

    • @itzfedora_yt4577
      @itzfedora_yt4577 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Used to be. Now he gets almost beaten every other week

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Revenge Of The Sith is still my favorite SW movie and 2005 was a great year

  • @DeadRingerMachine
    @DeadRingerMachine ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I've read this book. And others, like Lords of the Sith. Palpatine was trying to figure out if Vader was going to establish himself as a real force in the Empire or if he was just going to be another Maul, and assassin-type. At one point Vader asked Palpatine to announce to his command structure that Vader was the emperor's right hand man and spoke with the emperor's voice, because the admirals and generals just weren't giving him the kind of respect he needed, and he couldn't kill his way through them in order to gain that respect.
    Palpatine didn't just send Vader after the surviving Jedi, he also put Vader through multiple legitimately life-threatening tests to force him to sink COMPLETELY into the dark side, to break down everything he was holding onto from his previous life. These tests forced him to do things like slaughter unarmed civilians, including women and children. Palpatine succeeded in developing a level of hatred in Vader that drove him fully to the dark side.
    When Vader fought Darth Maul (yes, he fought Maul, as Theory covered in one of his videos), Maul taunted him, telling him there was no way he could be as powerful as Maul because as a former Jedi he couldn't HATE enough to match Maul's fury in the dark side. When Vader finally killed Maul by shoving his lightsaber through his OWN BODY to stab them both, Maul asked him who he could possibly hate enough that he could kill Maul? Vader said "myself."

  • @micahchilds4921
    @micahchilds4921 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Nah dude I think we all can agree this is canon. Better than anything disney has done

    • @sebganske1992
      @sebganske1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Someone doesn't know what canon means 😂😂

    • @Fiver5553
      @Fiver5553 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I suppose the official Disney Star Wars cannon and the canon people have in their heads are two different things personally I see pretty much everything that was made in the George Lucas era as canon while the films and shows made in the Disney era as a separate timeline or legends so like obi wan said wether you see something as canon or not it all depends on you’re certain point of view either way the cannon Disney push out to be true for the product they purchased and own is the first 6 films and everything Disney made afterwards including the sequels the fact that the majority of fans hate the sequels and don’t count it as canon is irrelevant to them

    • @Beefyboygo
      @Beefyboygo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I reject Disney Star wars altogether as canon.

    • @Kash_28
      @Kash_28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Beefyboygo you can reject it all you want it’s still canon and please don’t get me wrong with the exceptions of the mandolorian, rogue one and the Jedi games I hate everything Disney has put out

    • @Beefyboygo
      @Beefyboygo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kash_28 it'd be one thing if they were making good products but the fact of the matter is they are not. I didn't invest hours of my life to the expanded universe only for some soulless corporate entity to tell me that none of it mattered.

  • @dinfarr3119
    @dinfarr3119 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Actually, we did see a sith bounty hunter in Asajj Ventress in season 4 or 5 I think. Yes, she never became a sith lord, but she was a sith assassin nevertheless and a dark side user

    • @brandonedwards-catt4488
      @brandonedwards-catt4488 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If we want to go down that road, that makes Maul a Mandalorian.

    • @dragonborn5558
      @dragonborn5558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think Asajj was considered a sith she had a position but it wasn't sith

    • @corykimmel3497
      @corykimmel3497 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupidest thing I've ever seen, so wrong

  • @FleetAdmiral215
    @FleetAdmiral215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    VADER should have his own TV series, from order 66 to finding OBI-WAN 10x years later, Can you imagine the storyline

  • @MR_Edits03
    @MR_Edits03 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I actually love how he’s depicted through regular peoples eyes. It feels so unnatural and terrifying. “There’s a person with a lightsaber. He is definitely NOT a Jedi.”
    In a weird way, I think an interesting way to portray him through the common eye is through like a police radio/ 911 operator calls. Scuffed radio voices, static, but all terror. Idk if it’s just me, but those old police scanner calls and operator calls can be super terrifying, and I think maybe doing that in a way would make Vader even more horrifying.

    • @marcuswalker3631
      @marcuswalker3631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to think that Palpatine choice of cybernetics wasn't just to punish him, but to further limit him. If Anakin has to draw on the darkside to simply control the suit, he would be way too distracted to fully use any power he had against Palpatine in any effort to overthrow him.

    • @marcuswalker3631
      @marcuswalker3631 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Anakin fell to vaders troops while he defended the younglins, what is the Galaxy 's take on the guy killing the guy who was protecting kids. And whats their take on the guy who ordered those troopers to attack and kill those kids. Just seems like there should have been more said about this. I keep hearing people say that Anakin was seen as a hero, but he was a Jedi defending Jedi in this story. Somebody is the bad guy and I would love to see how that got handled

  • @PepeToTheMooon
    @PepeToTheMooon ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mostly everyone: “a Darth who? Darth Wader? What’s that?”

  • @PhilipGamez
    @PhilipGamez ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Anakin was respected across the entire Galaxy for his heroism while Darth Vader was feared, but hey, at least he built a name for himself… I guess… 😬😬😬

  • @DTA550
    @DTA550 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice seeing an old school style Theory video.

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What book is that where Luke hears the legend of the death of Anakin Skywalker?

  • @H0lland0ates79
    @H0lland0ates79 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I always thought that Palps gave Vader outdated tech not just to punish him but to also hinder his ability to overthrow Palps one day

  • @bajes328
    @bajes328 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    His cybernetics being old and beat up really gives the expression of him being an undead wraith in broken armour.

  • @dwaynecole6636
    @dwaynecole6636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this book. Lucasfilm would be wise to do a film or series based on it but, what the hell, who cares about content making money ?

  • @thedefamationleague
    @thedefamationleague ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Rise Of Darth Vader was basically the movie or series I wanted to see since even before Disney bought the franchise. Had they been smart enough to, right off the bat before any other movie, adapt the novel into a movie/show, and managed to not screw it up, I probably would still consider myself a Star Wars fan today no matter how bad subsequent content got. I was not a difficult SW fan to please. Lots of Vader/Sith/dark side/Empire stuff and no woke agenda, and they would have had me hooked.
    Honestly, Rise Of Darth Vader was what I was hoping for in ROTS. Attack of the Clones would have been a way better Episode 1, Revenge of the Sith would have made a way better episode 2, and Rise Of Darth Vader, or something similar in that same time period, would have been a truly epic episode 3. Also, if George Lucas did it like that, then released Phantom Menace after the fact as a stand alone film marketed particularly for kids, I bet Phantom Menace would have been FAR more well received.

    • @Rikrik1138
      @Rikrik1138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s actually a mini trilogy of novels, Labyrinth of Evil, Revenge of the Sith, and Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader that would have made an awesome trilogy of films. But The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones are both important to the story in their own right.

    • @thedefamationleague
      @thedefamationleague ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rikrik1138 I'm aware. Just saying, the time period right after Revenge of the Sith where Vader is full on Vader in the suit and not emo Ani after he didn't get his Snickers bar, and first days of the empire is really what would have been a great episode 3. I was very disappointed when it came out because we didn't get Vader in the suit until the very end, and didn't even get to see him in any action. I loved the movie, but not enough Vader and early Empire days.
      But yeah, I agree TPM and AOTC are important to the story, that's why I specified TPM still being made, but as a Stand alone prequel to the prequel movies, and moving ROTS and AOTC back one film in the trilogy to make room for Rise of Darth Vader as episode 3. All the current prequels would still exist, just released in a different order and a new film added to the mix. Attack of the Clones would have been a far stronger return for Star Wars than Phantom Menace. It honestly doesn't feel like a middle chapter, it feels like an opening chapter since there is such a long time gap between it and phantom menace. Revenge of the Sith would have been a great, dark middle chapter, and Rise of Darth Vader, we get Vader in all his glory mowing down Jedi scum! All the crap George Lucas got, I bet it never would have happened if he did this instead, then again, hindsight is 20/20, but then again, George Lucas may have been purposely defying expectations because I am quite sure I am not the only one who was expecting to see a full on Vader return with modern special effects and ended up disappointed. Maybe George Lucas was butthurt about TPM backlash and he was like "Screw them bastards! I'll show them! I wont have Anakin get burned until the end of the last movie". Watch, in an alternate reality, fans loved Jar Jar and as a result, Lucas didn't get pissed, and had Anakin go to the dark side way earlier in the trilogy.

    • @parithian8462
      @parithian8462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phantom menace is good. You only think it's bad cuz you think you know the story better than Lucas does.

    • @parithian8462
      @parithian8462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boooo, who do you think you are. What revolutionary movie franchise did you make, that I can claim in a comment section that I could of done a better job at?

    • @Rikrik1138
      @Rikrik1138 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@parithian8462 I unapologetically love The Phantom Menace.

  • @ace360
    @ace360 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dark Lord Rise of Lord Vader 🌋🤘 Love it

  • @maccaplays6921
    @maccaplays6921 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss the old star wars theory videos it felt more star wars! 😢

  • @kitkatdealer827
    @kitkatdealer827 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vader casually smoking 50 Jedi is wild, I love George Lucas.

  • @Cts_99
    @Cts_99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these vader vids lately 🎉

  • @mikedrury2748
    @mikedrury2748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legends is the real star wars. Disney is just a parody

  • @kkamiya9038
    @kkamiya9038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those who said Lucas never accept EU as canon, so Lucas authorised this novel isn't canon?

  • @mogyir
    @mogyir ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the galaxy thought?
    -F*ck you -> something like this😂

  • @stefanjohnson4955
    @stefanjohnson4955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what’s canon should be up to these amazing star wars story channels and us as the fan base screw the mickey mouse corporations opinion, they don’t truly care about this amazing universe that we as fans and true star wars believers and lovers dive into everyday and care for

  • @guilerobs8085
    @guilerobs8085 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I've wanted to see a fight(either fan or official) between Vader and Malgus. Both were heavy hitters in their respected times. I can only imagine how brutal it would be...

    • @cngotham4111
      @cngotham4111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well malgus has way better tech need Vader.

    • @guilerobs8085
      @guilerobs8085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cngotham4111 true, but Vader is also a beast using the Force

    • @guilerobs8085
      @guilerobs8085 ปีที่แล้ว

      yet, so is Malgus...

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guilerobs8085 can Malgus use Force lightning safely (without injuring himself or damaging his breathing apparatus)?

    • @guilerobs8085
      @guilerobs8085 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Yes he can, but I think Vader could block it with his Lightsaber

  • @FutschiFu
    @FutschiFu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always loved that novel so when I found out that it wasn't canon anymore I was pretty sad

  • @jacobthecrusader
    @jacobthecrusader ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well i bet they were extremely confused why a tank of a man just popped up and took control 💀

  • @mitchkothe9025
    @mitchkothe9025 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you talk about the lightsaber form Takata? Why the sith saw it as a sign of weakness and the Jedi thought of it as unsportsmanlike

  • @123alphadude
    @123alphadude ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the channel content I remember subbing to legends is canon. I have spoken

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if people saw him as a death trooper prototype but for Jedi.

  • @CD-Freedom
    @CD-Freedom ปีที่แล้ว +21

    6:33 I know it’s a lie in the context of the book, but Anakin could be considered the Last of the Jedi (at least the last of the old Jedi). Giving his final act to kill Palpatine and especially in Heir to the Empire when Kenobi proclaimed Luke the First of the new Jedi.
    Awesome video’s Star Wars Theory!

  • @dynad00d15
    @dynad00d15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thrawn knew who Vader was because he worked with Anakin in the past, during the clone wars.

  • @essaywitty
    @essaywitty ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would love to see a live action story of this. Vader wasn't well known after Revenge of the Sith, he just kind of showed up from most people's perspectives. He was new and I'm sure developed the fear others had of him through his actions.

  • @ericokonkwo7771
    @ericokonkwo7771 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd be interested to know what the galaxy thought about Luke (the last Jedi) and son of Vader, immediately after Return of the Jedi Episode 6.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They didn't know he was son of Vader or Anakin Skywalker for the most part.
      That's not something that comes out immediately. Luke doesn't go out of his way to hide it, but he doesn't go out of his way to broadcast it either.

    • @ty194
      @ty194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@priestesslucy3299 Why they wouldn't be able to put two and two together and at least guess that he's at the very least related Anakin is beyond me.

    • @JenniferKokoski
      @JenniferKokoski ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ty194because you and everyone else assumes the name Skywalker is unique. But in the universe of Star Wars it may be as common as Smith is here.

  • @InfiniteNaos
    @InfiniteNaos ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I first saw Revenge of the Sith I had thought Anakin killing the younglings was due to him embracing the dark nature along side taking out the Separatist leadership in Mustafar. Now knowing what I know about the lore he didn’t kill the younglings with hate, but he thought it was a mercy killing. To stop these children from adopting the dogma of the Jedi and to set them free from bondage which is why we didn’t see his Sith eyes appear while on Mustafar he did enjoy taking out the Separatist leadership. Having to fight against a waring faction of what he preserved to have been an evil group of systems and leadership, whom were technically the good guys, and having to lose so many of his allies to the CIS. So, murdering these leaders was his way of getting revenge and a trial for a Sith to be. Once someone starts to enjoy the fight, enjoy the slaughter, enjoy the revenge then their fate would be sealed. That’s why seeing his Sith eyes appear before taking out Wat Tambor was that solidification to the Dark Side. Such a downfall….

    • @AnnaBellaChannel
      @AnnaBellaChannel ปีที่แล้ว

      That is far worse as it 100% makes Anakin Skywalker a child murder who is completely delusional & insane.

    • @InfiniteNaos
      @InfiniteNaos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnnaBellaChannel Well you’re not wrong. It’s all truly bad from the younglings to the CIS leadership.

  • @johnballard9026
    @johnballard9026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you get back to this topic of content stuff from legends timeline

  • @josephallen3334
    @josephallen3334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t care what Disney says, this is cannon

  • @LauchlanMillar8644
    @LauchlanMillar8644 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st comment! Great vid theory huge fan!!

  • @hunterkiller6800
    @hunterkiller6800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so happy that the actual cannon that people call legends is still going in some form or another being that The Disney “cannon” is trash

  • @sovereigndayyouthkafir3943
    @sovereigndayyouthkafir3943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Expanded Universe, not "Legends." Also, I do agree this should be viewed as canon.

  • @DarthVader12361
    @DarthVader12361 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More videos of Vader😁😁😊

  • @amjh4lah809
    @amjh4lah809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Early 😊

  • @andrewkruzienski770
    @andrewkruzienski770 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What was Palpatines plan for Anakin if he didn't lose to Obi Wan? His identity wouldn't have been concealed.

    • @Crabbadabba
      @Crabbadabba ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think he expected Anakin to kill Obi Wan, and also probably didn’t expect Obi to kill him.

    • @_Laurens
      @_Laurens ปีที่แล้ว

      Anaking was the hero of the clone wars if he won his duel with obi wan it would of been used by palpatine to say
      Look anakin the most powerful jedi helped save me from the jedi councils treason to overthrow me and anakin was a good person etc and basically use anakin as a way to denounce the Jedi order

  • @toma.4808
    @toma.4808 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interestingly enough, i read the book shadows of the empire. There was a scene where vader was bathing and while he would bath he would often try and use the force to heal his scared lungs. The more he did it, he found himself slipping and letting go of his hate. More interesting, whenever he thought about luke and their duel, he reflected on it with pride and joy. Each time he thought of luke and knowing he had a son he began to heal and his rage would diminish.

  • @MogoFromHell
    @MogoFromHell ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Galaxy be like:
    WHAT THE HELL IS EVEN THAT?

  • @statesrights01
    @statesrights01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a nice Vader outfit, I've trained with a bokken and have cut with a katana. It's true, one is limited to some movement. First I learned this was when I put on the costume. Was an interesting experience to say the least. Great vid!! 😃

  • @johnpoulton9446
    @johnpoulton9446 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not to dwell on negative, quite opposite actually, this and your other videos like it bring me back to the before kk and her sequels . It feels GREAT to listen to and correspond with true Star Wars fans. Deep dive, speculate, hear others ideas and opinions! Good fans ! Good Star Wars with the spirit and elements of what Star Wars really is.

  • @LucLightWolf121
    @LucLightWolf121 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DARK LORD: THE RISE OF DARTH VADER remains my all-time favorite STAR WARS novel and audiobook.
    JEDI TRIAL is my second favorite STAR WARS novel and audiobook.
    What makes DARK LORD: THE RISE OF DARTH VADER so damn good is that the novel gets into the mind of Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader soon after REVENGE OF THE SITH and how he regained his confidence as a Force user, and by extension, his command of The Force. He literally goes through the 5 stages of grief in this novel too. Anakin comes to terms with what he had done and cast away his own name to become Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith.

    • @LucLightWolf121
      @LucLightWolf121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I don't care what Disney Lucasfilm says, this novel will always be canon in my eyes. They have shown that they are not worthy of being the stewards of STAR WARS or INDIANA JONES.

  • @doctordakotascorpio7047
    @doctordakotascorpio7047 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    i enjoyed this. I like how everyone has a different idea of Who or What Vader seemingly is but select few probably figured out that Anakin is Vader

  • @Ray-yv7kn
    @Ray-yv7kn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:57 In Legends, the trend seemed to be Sith Lords using Mandos as weapons of war, instead of Mandos becoming Sith or vice versa. Perhaps the most famous example would be the Mandalorian Wars.

  • @kUrAI-TaMAsHIi
    @kUrAI-TaMAsHIi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    (Minor spoilers for clone wars in this comment)
    To be fair we may have not seen an actual sith bounty hunter but ventress is maybe the closest thing to it at the end of the clone wars series. After she has been betrayed by dooku and the nightsister clan was decimated by greivous she fled and went on to become a blunty hunter, even joining up a group with boba and bosk at one point for a while.

  • @deathstrike
    @deathstrike ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This brings up an interesting question. What IF Hugo Damask (Darth Plagueis) had NOT died in his sleep as Palpatine claimed? What if Anakin Skywalker had been able to seek him out, and convince him to either share some of his knowledge, or even convince him to take on a student? After all it is (not canon) there Plagueis had a hand in Anakin's "conception". And even told Plagueis he would act as an avenger for Palpatine poisoning him?
    I think the elder Muun would have actually been delighted to teach his "creation". If he somehow knew Darth Vader would be at his side, Plagueis would have had a grand opportunity to seek revenge. And prove his life's work had borne fruit.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Darth Malgus has a more terrifying character design

  • @nicholassamiefard1089
    @nicholassamiefard1089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we get a collection room tour theory?

  • @MayankJawadekar
    @MayankJawadekar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can feel the pain... Every time SWT says *Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader is now Legends.*
    Good Job Disney

  • @ColorHarmonixEnthusiast
    @ColorHarmonixEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting to know anakin really had to become Darth Vader in more ways than just turning to the dark side.

  • @nicholas_porter
    @nicholas_porter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They thought: “What a badass armor and mask! Darth Vader is dope!!”

  • @lalopriego7852
    @lalopriego7852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just watched a video you did a year ago when you faced Luke from the mandalorian against Anakin from revenge of the sith. You mentioned at one point the possibility of facing them in a different way. Legends prime Luke against Anakin if he had not been injured by Obi-Wan and had reached his full potential. I wonder if you could do a video like that because thise are my favorite versions of those characters and I think your input would be really awesome for this match. Really hope that video becomes a reallity at some point.

  • @KoeleKoelCast
    @KoeleKoelCast ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ventress wasnt mandalorian, but she did become a bounty hunter. She wasn't fully Sith but she is the closest to a Sith bounty hunter we know

    • @Sparty-pi3jq
      @Sparty-pi3jq ปีที่แล้ว

      I read the Dooku book (which is written in the 1st person, it was a weird read) I'm pretty sure Asajj Ventriss worked for Dooku at some point or possibly was being trained by him. Pardon my ignorance on the subject, I'm not knowledgeable about Asajj in any way shape or form. Do u by chance have a good idea 9f what u can read/watch to get to know her better? Thank you in advance.

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sparty-pi3jq Cartoon Network Star Wars the Clone Wars she's in it

    • @KoeleKoelCast
      @KoeleKoelCast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sparty-pi3jq in the vintage clone wars show from 2003 she is introduced, in the clone wars from 2008 and on you will not only have a blast with the series, but you also will follow the rest of her journey

    • @MatthewCaruso-ky4uz
      @MatthewCaruso-ky4uz ปีที่แล้ว

      yal niggas just make shit up huh? theres too many siths and jedis stop it! shits like flips during wrestling matches.

    • @angelofdarkness20011
      @angelofdarkness20011 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also after all of that there’s also the book dark disciple Which she is a main character in, but definitely read that last

  • @obeseparrot4266
    @obeseparrot4266 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While Thrawn knowing who Vader is is mostly because he’s the most intelligent being in the galaxy is true, it goes into more depth in the books.
    Thrawn actually met Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars above the planet Batuu. There, Thrawn and Anakin tried to find and save Padmé. (And, yes, Thrawn found out about their love for each other too). But while Thrawn was working with Anakin, he studied him. (Of course he would, he’s Thrawn).
    Jump forward to the time of the Empire, and Thrawn is once again serving with Anakin, but as Darth Vader this time. Throughout the time they’re serving with each other, Thrawn notices the subtle things Vader does that remind him of Anakin (like the way he flies his ship for example). Thrawn figures out Vader is Anakin fairly easily and very fast, and Thrawn even teases Vader about it too (if you haven’t read Alliances please do. It’s so funny).
    But, towards the end of the book when Thrawn and Vader are talking to each other, Thrawn makes another one of his quips to Vader. Vader responds in his usual “Anakin Skywalker is dead”, but Thrawn, instead of saying his usual “So I’ve heard,” says “I know.” It’s a really sad ending to the book because it’s Thrawn accepting that Anakin is gone, and only Vader remains.

  • @sneakdza
    @sneakdza ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wish we could get a live action movie or series of just Vader

    • @Soullessservant
      @Soullessservant ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not possible. There HAS to be a strong female character that takes over the show

    • @sneakdza
      @sneakdza ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Soullessservant unfortunately

    • @bigbird2240
      @bigbird2240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop begging for live action . audiobook format is the best way to get real Star Wars aka expanded universe

    • @sneakdza
      @sneakdza ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigbird2240 idk bout you but I’m tryin see sum visuals , not hear a narrator wit a couple sound effects 😂

    • @bigbird2240
      @bigbird2240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sneakdza keep crying to Disney then to make some visuals and make them crappy lol

  • @RyanBlazeheart
    @RyanBlazeheart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legends will always be canon. There is no Sequel Trilogy, there is no war in Ba Sing Se, There is no Rey.

  • @Peef_Spogdar
    @Peef_Spogdar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Theory what do you think of how Disney has tried to undermine Vader and the Skywalker line? I just realized today that the amount of Jedi who survived Order 66 really makes it seem as though it wasn’t as impactful as it felt when George was in control. Idk just a thought.

    • @ianmccown
      @ianmccown ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man Rise Of Skywalker bringing palpatine back was a spit in the face to Return Of the Jedi! Vader became Anakin again once he killed the emperor. He brought balance to the force. But oh no wait, lets bring Palpatine back as if nothing ever happened… ugh

  • @nicklang6798
    @nicklang6798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What people thought of Darth Vader ? "Oh Shit"😂

  • @waxer7842
    @waxer7842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching palpitibe act just old in useless in Clone Wars, knowing he could actually whoop everyone and almost everything.

  • @FruitPuncho
    @FruitPuncho ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just love how everyone wants to talk about Anakin! Like it truly shows how much we love him and how we want to know more about him and what sort of things could’ve happened “if” Anakin is truly in our hearts as one of the most beloved Jedi’s🫶❤️

  • @astonedfemboy2270
    @astonedfemboy2270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    legends=true cannon

  • @HDBrown-wc9xt
    @HDBrown-wc9xt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love a video on Anakin’s view point of order 66

  • @lucaskaestner5399
    @lucaskaestner5399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video theory! Can you or someone else explain how the emperor explained how all the Jedi in his office died?

    • @ty194
      @ty194 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anakin

  • @chacemcbeth6882
    @chacemcbeth6882 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the return to lore vidoes

  • @adamtoth5887
    @adamtoth5887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thrawn worked with Anakin too, when Anakin was looking for Padme.

  • @Kraziel797
    @Kraziel797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That book was my personal star wars Bible. One of the reasons why despised Disney.

  • @jakejameslugo
    @jakejameslugo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is an aspect that a lot of new projects now never really touch on. We never get to see or hear convos from common folk about Darth Vader, because people DEFINITELY know of him. So I’m sure people talked.

  • @generaltheory8
    @generaltheory8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dooku was also a Jedi who strangled people

  • @eds1942
    @eds1942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the Sith weren’t self centered and obsessed with power at any cost, they would make great bounty hunters.

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NNNNNNOOOOOOO

  • @BanthaFodder-z3l
    @BanthaFodder-z3l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of my favorite prequel novels!

  • @paulloughlin3732
    @paulloughlin3732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luceno's Star Wars work is great.

  • @denizmagden
    @denizmagden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t care what anyone says, this is canon.

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, it wasn’t like nobody knew what was going on involving Imperial command, some secrets can’t stay hidden, and its obvious countless people wondered who Vader really was.

  • @duckvs.chipanddale585
    @duckvs.chipanddale585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do the video on anakin's death

  • @Gamezshortz1290
    @Gamezshortz1290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi im first view

  • @LordBrittish
    @LordBrittish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT THE %#^* IS THAT?!

  • @soccerboi4207
    @soccerboi4207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi😊

  • @brookskossover
    @brookskossover ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayyy

  • @ZackMuffinMan
    @ZackMuffinMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi!

  • @someguy6534
    @someguy6534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d say Ventress is pretty close to a sith turned bounty Hunter

  • @ryancook4948
    @ryancook4948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't Ventress briefly work as a Bounty Hunter after Dooku tried to kill her?

  • @davidordaz5251
    @davidordaz5251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see more stories on lord ragnos or exar kun or darth vitiate so many powerful sith and yet we only get to see too many tv shows and movies of vader and Palpatine all the time yeah they cool and all but just getting a bit bland

  • @Alkzo
    @Alkzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke didn't strangle the guards in ROTJ, he did an illusion to them

    • @ignatiuszoo
      @ignatiuszoo ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he did the Jedi mind trick on them, saying, "I'm a V.I.P., so stand aside." The guards were so stupid that they didn't even require a verbal suggestion to get tricked. Luke's hand in that clip wasn't doing the Jedi strangle gesture at all.

    • @Alkzo
      @Alkzo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ignatiuszoo thats what I said, he didn't strangle. He made an illusion so the guards believed they were

  • @chadrowland4670
    @chadrowland4670 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Assaj Ventress. Dooku's apprentice who became a bounty hunter.

  • @n0byll
    @n0byll ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leading up to the reveal in Empire..it would have been cool to see Luke get to hear people talk good about his father when the name Anakin Skywalker was mentioned. To see some respect for that name amongst the lore of the universe, and a growing sense of pride in Luke for it.

    • @timbrown1834
      @timbrown1834 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure there was a scene that was cut from episode IV where an X-Wing pilot mentioned to Luke that he knew his father

  • @_Jimmy.Savile_
    @_Jimmy.Savile_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay early