Rory Stewart: I failed to prevent Boris Johnson from becoming prime minister
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No thanks, as I have to listen to enough twits in daily life without adding people like Rory the not a Tory into the mix.
Please try to find someone less self serving & more relevant to current affairs.
I hope not.
Rory Stewart is one of the few half decent Tories.
@@countfosco8535 He's not a conservative; he's a liberal.
About prisons, here is an idea: How about building new prisons and demolishing those victorian that are no longer fit for purposes.
You could take lessons from Norway but Mr Stewart along with majority of convervative party and the public would be outraged with any proposal to spend money on criminals when young graduates can't find a place to live. Well build more houses as well.
The problem is this reluctance to spend moeny on public sector services has been the conrner stone of the Conceravtive party that now it has become part of their religion. NHS is an example of it. They have run it down for so long that saving it is no longer a viable proposition.
Rory’s the type of person that you hoped the others were like, but sadly he’s one of the the very few.
deceptive, part of a murdering group.. hes sis security services you dont want democracy then
How refreshing to hear someone in British politics frankly list their failures and concerns. I havent finished listening yet but felt moved to comment. This man should form his own party and become PM. Nice one Rory. Im not a Conservative but I would vote for you .
I agree with you 100%
I agree but head of the party with rory duputy prince harry boh know the faliers of politics but also know there are true ways to rises from the ashes
i would vote for him too. Sadly, not many other people would. Most people prefer sweet lies to bitter truths.
A tory rat deserting their sinking ship
Don't be fooled by polite sounding people with mealy-mouths
He was in politics for same reason as every other Tory, to further the interests of the rich
Tories are a danger to the health and happiness of the poor and vulnerable communities
Treating them as normal politicians is wrong
He's still evil, just maybe less unprincipled than some of the others
I’m 83 and have endured 16 Prime Ministers and whatever this guy’s flaws the fact that the Tories preferred Boris Johnson to Rory Stewart speaks volumes for their judgment. What a missed opportunity for this war torn country.
I agree with you...:)
to clarify..I agree with the 83 yr. old ...
@@DJFAmenHeavy Difficult to have a reasonable discussion with someone who makes such a judgment based solely on someone’s age.
@@johnthompson2543
His age isn’t the problem John, it’s his logic 😂 typical remainer brain disease 🧠 🦠
War torn?
i'm not so partisan as much these days, but Stewart is probably the only tory i've developed a deep affection and admiration for in recent years. i hope he sticks with us. more of his kind please
same. here here!
Another
I dont have affection for any Tory
@@thestonedabbot9551 bully for you
I'm a man and I listened to this. Not once did I think about the fact it was being presented by two women until they mentioned it... so I suspect there's many like me, and its a non-issue, for both the Times and The Rest is Politics.
I agree, until, as you said…..
It's such a tired argument. Do they think he explicitly says to guests on his podcast that they are not allowed to discuss women? Idiocy
This was an exceptional interview. Fi probing and informed, Rory searingly honest and interesting.
State schools should be so good that people wouldn't consider wasting 14K per term sending their kids to a private school.
Exactly! Finland banned private schools, and rich people ensured that the schools they had to send their kids to were adequately funded
But some state schools aren't good and why shouldn't people have the choice - we are not slaves to the Government, or we shouldn't be. What people do with their own money should be up to them.
Waisting why?
Maybe some Labour politicians should lead the way?
If state schools were fully funded private schools would disappear.
Politicians send money heir kids there so have little interest in the public sector full stop,they don’t use it.
I've been listening to Jane and Fi for decades on BBC 5Live.
Rory is too good for politics, which is a shame as that's exactly where we need people like him.
There are very few mp's that are seemingly sincere, likeable, have a history in the forces and diplomacy, and are popular with voters from both major parties. He ticks the boxes, and it's a damn shame he wasn't pm. I feel he would have been very good in the role and, at the very least, would have taken it seriously.
Yeah, he would also have been an interesting PM. I saw him live recently and he’s very charismatic in real life.
That is why he was not PM. The backers of the Tories don’t want people like him in charge.
Why is a history in the forces relevant?
@@friendgray1 it’s catnip to centrists, didn’t you know?
@@friendgray1 why is it not relevant?
Love listening to Rory. We may not agree on his voting record. But can’t deny he puts thought into the choices he makes. And wants to generally improve people’s lives. A book I will definitely be reading.
Far be it from me to defend a tory, but as a member of government you're duty bound to vote with the government or you're out.
I would Love to ask Rory, why he thinks the Tories even deserve another 5 years. Haven't they already done enough damage to the country ?
His voting record and those of many mps is due to the whipping system. and how parliament works, which is what he is talking about.
As he has explained several times, our parliamentary system works that those MPs in the government have to vote with the party. If you don't, you are kicked out of the party. You also lose your ministerial job.
That is exactly what happened when he voted against his party on and got kicked out of the party.
So change your party. Not hard is it.@@bannjaxx
I’m a Labour supporter and I’ll vote for Rory as PM tomorrow given a chance.
I would if he chose his cabinet from outside of the tory party.
If you're that right-wing then you have a right wing candidate: Starms.
Give your head a shake.
Which is why he doesn't warrant claiming to be a conservative.
He's the only Tory I like. Such an interesting character and seems a decent person.
Rory is about the only Tory I can stand listening to. He comes across as an honest, decent man that knows his strengths and limitations. He's worth 10x more than the attention seeking Johnson and co.
Not true? UKIP was more than just a single party issue. The first issue was Brexit. Why did they have policies on education for example?
How about the following areas on which they had policies?
Britain and Northern Ireland
Local Government
Civil Service Reform
Voting Reform
Foreign Affairs
Immigration
Police, Crime, & Punishment
Defence
Energy
Housing
Transport
The NHS
Agriculture
Animal Welfare
The Environment
Fishing
Taxation and Spending
The Digital Economy & Technology
UK Financial Markets
Enterprise & Employment
Children and Families
Childcare
Elderly Care
Equality and Disability
Abuse and Exploitation
Welfare of Veterans
Freedom Speech
Cancel Culture
Media Bias
Heritage and History
He's a "proper" politician - he understands that one of the main aspects of politics is that it "mucks about with peoples lives, sometimes for the better but not always" and that some kind of consensus is required in order to be of benefit to more peoples' lives than the opposite. There are not enough of his ilk from the various political persuasions.
No-one can be "right" 100% of the time, and sometimes that depends on which way the wind blows, Rory seems to understand this concept and be able to deal with and articulate it.
If Rory were to head up a new "centrist party" with others of his ilk (even with the likes of the "politically opposite Alastair Campbell on board as some kind of political advisor) I would vote for it. We NEED good old honest debate, sensible compromising and testing of what the voting masses think, something which is sadly lacking now. . .
@@martsmiscmix The trouble with our current politics is tribalism. The centre is neither one thing or the other. I would vote for him too.
Would he be any less beholden to the money that has turned western democracies in plutocracy. I doubt it.
he's not a tory. he's a wimp liberal
He could've given Boris a little karate chop when no one was looking?
Rory Stewart is worth your full attention! 👏👏🤟
A glance at the opposing benches does make me pine for Rory.
He's a dreadful pro NeoCon war nut job, even backed the Iraq bloodbath.
What an interesting and intelligent man ,Rory Stewart is.
Very good interview, thank you.
I remember that leadership debate. It was utterly appalling. Not one person came out well from it.
I’ve got a strong sense that having Rory at one despatch box and Andy Burnham at the other might move British Politics forward.
Shows the difference between you and he. He is concerned for his country, he wants to give, create, heal and build whereas you can't see past yourself. The division in our nation is perfectly illustrated here. The people like Rory seemingly fighting a losing battle because the selfish motives of the ignorant bring chaos and a myriad of harms. So tragic
It’s not quite clear which is who you’re referring to?
Do you support Rory’s attitudes or Boris’?
Personally I can stand Rory, & am relieved we were saved from him.
Boris was disappointing but was thwarted by covid, & never really had a chance to get to grips with improvements. Imho.
@@telephassarose3501 boris is a hero - Covid , Ukraine and delivered brexit. in comparison rory a whingebag
@@telephassarose3501You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. By ignoring the facts, you not only misunderstand what happened, you fail to make any convincing argument. Facts and evidence matter, but by not updating your evidence or looking at disconfirming facts and testing your conclusions for veracity, you not using common sense thinking. Life is far more complicated than mere tribalism. In your desperation to protect your perception of being right, you are pursuing a direction that is very wrong, and does a disservice to the very cause you espouse. Life isn't a football game. it's far more important.
@@telephassarose3501 Boris lied to you. Repeatedly. The fact you think he was simply thwarted by covid shows how successful his deception was on you.
And so the rejoiner plot goes on.
Highly recommend his podcast with Alistair and hearing Rory's viewpoint. Dont agree with everything he says. He was right about Johnson.
I agree with you completely on both your points. I enjoyed the podcast with Major as it was intelligent and entertaining.
As a Tory with Thatcher views this response explains why he should have never been in the Conservative party. His views are left leaning
@@martinburman9790 His views are centre right. It is his party that moved to the right. Thatcher would not have left the EU.
It’s Alastair not Alistair and he is a blood soaked propagandist.
@@martinburman9790 His views are old style conservatism, a bit to the centre but he would never have felt at home in Labour. In a two party system the parties itself are coalitions of different groups who should be in different parties under a more democratic election system. If you define conservatism too strict you will get a party that only represent a fraction of the electorate that votes for you because the alternative is only one other party that they dislike more. What you really say is that the UK needs proportional representation then you can start the purest party you want.
Until that time you can either have a broad coalition or you can have your party ruled by the lunatic fringe.
Great guy
Amusing that she thinks the journey from government minister to podcaster is ‘failing upwards’😂
It would more accurately described as failing into safety.
I think she was talking about being a millionaire
the salary is better!
He hated parliament but was working there for 9 years..!
I hated my workplace of 27 years. Your point?
It says something about the quality of some colleagues and the method of government in this country
@@taekwanlew Point being you're making it sound like he was forced to be an MP to put food on the table. It's ridiculous notion of course and he was just happy to ride the Boris popularity wave into power like the rest of them.
Hi Times Radio, My wife went to see Rory at a gathering he organised at Ely Cathedral last night and came home with this book and filled with enthusiasm, he has shown himself to be a person of considerable dignity and integrity and it does not surprise me at all that he was so disappointed with the behaviour in parliament.
Cheers, Richard.
Rory ,join the Labour party and take the leadership.
Yes, that is his true home
Happily listen to this man all day -- would love to buy him a pint ..
...love Rory 😊
He’s a class act
He really isn't. He's a poor immitation of Heseltine.
@@studio1972
Who are you, poppet?
Have ever even met either Rory or Michael?
Hahahaha!
Seen them in the media hundreds of times just like you. He's pretty shallow so barely takes a few seconds to see what his agenda is.@@robertcottam8824
Someone else who hates Brexit best thing we ever done was leave the eu
I cannot go a day without listening
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"Sometimes you'll go a whole podcast without even mentioning a woman apart from Theresa May or Margaret Thatcher" is a mad statement
An irrelevant statement tbh.
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Feminist BS
As journo questions go, there wasn't much conversation to be had from it. Ill thought through, in deep contrast with Rory, so who was the narrow minded one?
he was too polite to say f**k off.
That was indeed incredibly lame of her. She added absolutely nothing intelligent to what was up until the point she arrived an interesting discussion.
Amazed that he may like his offspring to go to Eton?????
Christ on a bike
He was asked if he was suited as a politician. Somebody at the end obviously not good at interviewing and appearing on pod casts
This was a really good interview you two are great
Watching this, I can't help liking Rory Stewart. An everyman, and I'll risk, who seems to genuinely believes in what he says in order to do good for the society in which he lives.
I've just bought his book for my OH's Christmas present! It'll be a fascinating read (after HE'S read it of course!!) I think very highly of this lucid, intelligent and thoughtful man.
He is the best possible kind of politician, shame there aren't more honest and transparent leaders here and world wide.
when you do nothing of course you can pretend to be great.
Look at his voting record, he's a very nasty piece of work.
The best kind of politician. Sure. Never says anything against the mainstream media.
LOL! You must be kidding!
The best indictment of Boris Johnson I ever heard was from Rory Stewart saying even Larry the Downing Street Cat would make a better Prime Minister than Mr. Johnson!
Don't think he'd have won an 80 seat majority though
You've got to love Rory very honest geezer.
Unfortunately, the corrupt politics of Westminster won't give him the chance!
Rory's penny drop moment happened during the leadership debate when he realised the only way to win would be to out lie The Liar and the other pretenders. He was uniquely unable to do this, being the only candidate with a degree of integrity. At that, his tie came off and he was done. I will never forget that moment, nor I suspect will he.
Integrity!? He wanted to stop the democractic will of the people! That's even worse than a liar.
It meant different things for different people. There is no nuance in referendums, that's part of the problem with them.
@@Bruh-vp6qf No the problem with them is they dont want the public to have a real democracy, they are going to spend billions of tax payers money on pointless Net Zero scams and wont even give the public the choice because they know we'd say no way.
Rory is everything the Tories *pretend* to stand for
Like supporting apartheid?
Could you elaborate? @@cedcol356
@@cedcol356 yes I’m sure the overwhelming majority of Tories support apartheid
@@cedcol356yes they segregated POC in the UK, restricted their rights and didn't let them vite didn't they?...oh wait.
Like not being not a conservative , really a labour/Lib Dem remoaner!
Jane & Fi, you done good. I remember Jane's dulcet tones on 'Woman's Hour'. I only caught you though because I'm awaiting delivery of Rory's book. I've' Read 'The Places in Between' and 'The Prince of the Marshes', both of which(as a notoriously unfocussed reader) I devoured. He first came to my attention being interviewed on Newsnight and you could tell Paxman found him impressive.
Thank you for this interview; the bit at the end has put me on alert. Thank you.
I liked the whole interview; and then the unexpected.
If Rory Stewart and Boris Johnson were pilots hypothetically , who would you pick to fly your plane.
We’re doomed 😂
Whichever one is as far right as possible
Boris. He'd get someone else to do it whereas Rory would think he had magic flying powers and turn the engines off.
If you voted Brexit, you'd pick Boris. Because he'd fly you to the destination you wanted to go. RS may be the better pilot, but he'd fly you to where he wanted to go.
@@SpitffireTriple Johnson has flown you down the toilet.
I am German and was following British politics closely during the Brexit negotiations. Even though I didn't like the Tories, Rory Stewart always stood out to me as a voice of reason and honesty with a decent sense of responsibility. I felt he was truly convinced of what he was saying and wasn't playing some sort of game, like most other politicians. Unfortunately, the political system, not only in the UK, but also here in Germany, does not promote this kind of personality.
That interview is probably the best politician's interview I have watched in years!!!!! Well done!!!!
All I could hear was 'me', 'me', 'me', and 'I', 'I' and 'I'.
The first time I have watched this programme and so refreshing to find interviewers not just out to bash the living daylights out of their ' prey ' to make themselves look clever. Which they so often fail to do. Will certainly watch again and so pleased to see Rory Stewart , I could listen to him all day.
@@drivemenuts3011 How can he help that? The interview is about him. Stop being silly.
I hihly admire you Rory! You are very brave in your critics. I have never heard a politician speaking so naturally, calmly and , above all, honestly! For all these: THANK YOU!!! please, contact the LibDem here in Hillingdon at least. Thank you. T.
Great interview, thank you
He’s an interesting and thoughtful chap. He threw his lot in with Remain and lost. That’s the nature of politics.
We all lost.
Jim I do not think Rory lost because he voted with his conscience in accordance with his considered view .The country lost out because the E R G did not have any plans for a post Brexit Britain.
@@annewalden3795the ERG isn’t the government.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
@@annewalden3795 - Rory couldn’t really stay when the Brexit vote came in. He threw his lot in to a cause he believed in. A principled politician (good for him), but that’s not great for a career in power if he lost - which he did. He all won when we regained our sovereignty. The goals of the EU will ultimately fail. Thousands of years of culture won’t be absorbed in a few decades. A loose federal system is the most they can hope for, at best. We left the EU because we don’t think the same. Good friends, the best of friends. But no more.
@@Robert-tl2vg The E R G were the prime movers behind this idiotic campaign to leave the EU .Unfortunately they had no plan for a future outside the EU and there continue to be divisions within the Conservative Party and the Country . People are now being criticised for flourishing EU flags and some idiots want legislation to ban such flags .You think I do not know what I am talking about but at least I can truthfully say that like Rory I voted with my conscience.
Shame, Brexit is such a shitshow for some of us
Just the minority
Its a shitshow for everyone, absolutely everyone.
@@gordonfleming458 I suspect not. I suspect it affects people negatively, but that they may not even be aware that Brexit has contributed to that negative impact.
@@irishmiddle i suspect you are telling porkys
i like Rory cause he comes across as totally honest and i remember his treading the path of Lawerance of Arabia fasinating and dangerous.Hes interesting to listen to,but we dont know him so tv and radio allow us to measure him,great interview.
Great read and enlightening
I’m an American who did my postgrad studies in the UK. I’m on the left ( by American standards- the far far left - which means id be a rightest Labor voter) and I lived his book on walking across Afghanistan with the dog.
Labour
Such a thoughtful individual. One can only wonder at how he could’ve governed Britain.
Probably very well.
Rory Stuart. The UKs wettest blanket
Next time Rory Stewart for our prime minister. This country needs to wake up,or give up.
Have we lost the opportunity to have this man in British Politics. I fear so. What a waste.
Rory is absolutely brilliant and the journalists questioning is absolutely dull - he is actually qualified to do the job and she suggests it's all about ego. It's not - he is right that he would have done a profoundly better job than Boris Johnson.
Rory Stewart is to the Tories what David Miliband is to Labour, the leader they let away.
He opposed the Iraq invasion, called for a Covid lock down in Feb, argued against hard Brexit over and over. Too bad he didn’t become PM
Thank you Mr Stewart …
Rory seems like a good man.
Oh how much better the Uk would be if he beat Boris.
I have wonderful news you may have missed!! Boris has been out of the top spot for some time now
I have news for you. @mark10601 never alludes to not knowing Boris is no longer PM. Simply the fact that the UK might’ve been better if Rory Stewart became PM instead of Boris.
In what way would it have been better?
@@steffantherock Riiight, but clearly BoJo stills lives in his head rent free.
Brilliant!
Well done
What a decent man..... pity the MPs chose Jonson ...
its because he is decent. politicians would view him askance
I have said this before and I will say it again please please please come back Rory.I real nice guy sincere honest sensitive humourous and most of all in touch with the common people.God bless you this country needs you sincerely Jeremy Allfrey.
As a male listener I thought this was a brilliant and insightful interview
Few men radiate this degree of intensity. Most who exhibit this intensity accomplish little in politics. I would like to know why.
Is it that when you are in Parliament your hands are tied much more. To get your ideas through with no obstacles, you’d have to be a dictator
Criminals should go to prison
Excellent
Having 'no experience of prisons' before becoming Minister of State for Prisons, just about sums up the UK government. Incompetence and chaos propped up by the civil service.
He would have been an exceptional foreign secretary
The Hon Rory, OBE, is surely destined for greater things. Foreign Secretary one day? Head of the United Nations? Perhaps even Prime Minister!
@@jonjones6583 I only want him as PM of it isn’t for the tories.
@@boxtradums0073 Both parties, in the end always look after themselves and their Entourage, I vote for labour, but unfortunately the economy under labour was a total disaster. I have no faith in any of them. Welcome you view.
@@jonjones6583 how was Labour to blame for the US housing market collapse ? The longest period of sustained growth and serious investment resulting in next to no waiting lists in the NHS. Im from Edinburgh and the increase in living standards due to labour was amazing.
I’m a Scottish independence supporter so I dislike Labour 99% as much as the tories but Labour will be better for the country as a whole.
They all 'would have' , if they hadn't been rumbled .
Why is someone like this a member of a party like that?
He’s no longer a member of the Conservative party
Perhaps if we had a more equal education system, MP's would be more interested in the quality of health services, education and affordability of housing.
Rory-- the reason you are good is basic. When your Life Structure is secure. When you are Safe. It leaves you room to look outward, Not everyone does. Fortunately, you do. The World is better off with people such as you.
Make others as Secure and Safe,, and they will respond with more Good in the World.
I'm sad that so many people couldn't or wouldn't see BJ for what he was and let themselves get caught up in the BS. Same as DT... how can people not see what he is?
People confuse the shamelessness and boldness of sociopaths for confidence and expertise.
@@rogerwilco2 Nailed it. Can we have that on Billboards all over USA and UK lol.
People could and did but the opposition was Jeremy Corbyn and that’s why he won never forget that
@zoedaisy1499 Jeremy Corbyn as portrayed by the msm. We should never forget that
@@brendanlea3605no plenty of people remember him inviting his "friends" Hezbollah to parliament. They were well aware of his antisemitism that spread through the labour party. That wasn't the media makong things up, it was infront of us for all to see.
I’m nearly 40 and never voted in my life as I hated all my choices, Rory is the only person I would ever vote for
Not voting is ok if you stop moaning about politicians
You then get the politicians you deserve.
Sad
what has he done?
You have to vote, Even for the least worst option. Not voting says I am ok with what i am given. Democracy is most votes, not your eutopia.
Somebody has already mentioned it in the comments, but this man is to good for parliment. How can one man change and make a better and honest political system when the rest of the pack are indifferent.
Same happening here in au
Shame on us all
He should come over to the Labour Party.
For the record, I thought Rory Stewart shone in that debate, but was too nice and too intelligent to get The Vote…
He wld not kowtow to the erg so he did not win the vote.
Damn great questions
I don't agree with everything he says but I do like the guy and find him interesting. Genuine in a way I wish all politicians would be
One globalist failed to get another globalist out? What difference does that make?
This guy never wanted brexit and would reverse it if he could, simple
He literally said the opposite on telly and the podcast more then a dozen time.🙄
He would be quite right to do so.
Rory is so much better than the rest of us!!!
Rory ✊️🏴
My compliment to him. He isn't really a Tory
Correct, he needs to naff off to the Limp Dumbs
I have a lot of time for this guy. Intelligent and gifted with a high level of integrity. There are not many of his kind in politics in any country in this world. Pity he was a Tory, but then again, he left that party. His podcast is brilliant! So if he makes money from it, fine by me.
Don't be wooed by this man's apparent soft demeaner. He's still a Tory!
Vote Yes to Independence Rory.
Time to come home.
Yes Rory. Tell us how you’d deal with illegal channel crossing!?😊
Well 1) he wouldn't have delivered a hard brexit so we would have still had the legal ability to return people to France.
Clear the backlog and sent the crooks back and allow genuine to stay!
He's had a pretty fierce debate (for them) on the podcast with Alistair Campbell on this topic if you're genuinely interested.
An essentially decent man who was sickened by an rotten political Westminster system no longer fit for purpose.
He clearly knows his stuff, and he might've been an honest leader
I hate to say it, and I know I ought not to, but he doesn't have the face of a leader or statesman
Such a humble and honest man with fascinating deep insights into British politics.
Mistaken insights!
How would Rory deal with channel crossings ? He strikes me as a nice guy but unable to make tough decisions
Rare to find a person happy to share what he failed at, for a politician that’s practically unheard of.
I'm no Tory, never voted for them, however I would vote for this man, he knows the world, he is switched on, I would consider him an honest politician if there are any.
Rory is too good a person to be a Conservative politician.
Aye and there’s the rub.
He is like Anna Soubry and others that thankgod are gone, not in the right party.
@@sararichardson737 Please elaborate as I do not understand your reply.