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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- Sonic Adventure RTX:
gamebanana.com/wips/84764
Also used the Dreamcast Conversion mod:
www.moddb.com/mods/sadx-dream...
And thumbnail was made using Meme Maker:
gamebanana.com/mods/49984
The thumbnail was captured 100% in-game, unedited, by simply moving the camera closer to Sonic. There's no photoshop magic here - the game looks THAT good!
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Sonic Adventure DX is a Bad Port
01:17 - The Dreamcast Conversion Mod
01:51 - Sonic Adventure RTX
04:07 - Outro
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Sega finally hired this man.
Now all we need is a Render96-style remake of all the models and it’s perfect
FACTS!!!!
and upscaled textures
@@tl1882 That already exists
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Theres a mod with models based on the renders
Amy could honestly be the funnest character if you could:
1. Reach top speed a second faster
2. Hit your hammer in the air just as you're about reach the ground to bounce
The new tricks mod makes her very fun to play.
Use the Physics Swap mod and give her Sonic's physics. It makes her pretty fun to play as.
@@legoawcstopmotioner9435 Nah, that doesn't work for Amy. The new tricks mod is way better, it still keeps the base idea for Amy, but gives her a bunch of new tricks that make her loads more fun to play as.
Also, if her hammer had a much better radius on the ground when you are using it to attack enemies, as well as being able to use it when moving, not just standing still, as it feels clunky otherwise.
That's what spin dashing is for, and you can even spam it.
I've played Adventure DX my whole life and only recently have I started hearing that people don't like it. I've never had any problems with it
Welcome to gaming in 2024, everyone is a game critic instead of actually enjoying the game itself, and people also seem to follow whatever trendy opinion is on said game
In this case, the trends aren't entirely wrong. I played SADX back when it was new, all the way up until I bought my Dreamcast in 2015ish and never really noticed the flaws until I played the original version. The port was noticeably rushed and suffers in a lot of areas. I wish Sega would make the OG Dreamcast version more accessible to more people 🤷
People have already tried to apply RTX Remix to Sonic Adventure 2 but for whatever reason vertex shaders in that game do not get captured properly, once Nvidia fixes this issue we'll likely see an RTX mod for it.
RTX Remix only works with the fixed-function vertex pipeline; modders would likely have to downgrade the game to use that instead of custom vertex shaders in order for it to work properly. Same story with Deus Ex and the new Echelon Renderer made to make the game compatible with RTX Remix.
Yeah, a lot of people on the discord are really bummed about it. I was going to contribute art to the project, till I found out it's not even possible, and likely never will be.
Amazing video, thank you very much for playing my mod and enjoying it enough to make this. Good feedback means a lot.
Sonic community “If sega won’t give it to us we’ll just do it ourselfs”
The only reason Sega and Sonic are still going to this day. lol
Someone's going to have a rough transition into the afterlife if they keep bringing that up 💀
My biggest complaint with this mod is Sonic's spin aura. I would have increased the emissive values of the blue aura while Spin Dashing and Jump Dashing. I do like how, in some darker levels like Lost World, using Sonic's fully-charged Light Dash aura can be used to light up the darkness! I want to see more of this type of lighting introduced and leaned into.
Adventure RTX looks super solid so far.
The snowboard segment looks fantastic!
Imagine this combined with an HD texture pack and higher quality models. It would look insane.
This reminds me of those old animation showcase videos from way back then
The Amy levels are some of the best in the Sonic Adventure. Especially with the extended moveset mods on the Steam version. Balancing the game with a slower paced platformer that requires you to keep your motion in order to propel yourself high in the air is super fun imo.
bruh
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I disagree for one reason.
Turn slightly and Amy stops, jump and she stops, attack and she stops, run up a 1º incline and she stops.
Her levels are great, but not when you play as Amy.
I use a custom character select mod that lets you swap in-game and playing as Sonic in her levels is a blast, it's just that she herself sucks to play as
Yeah and the hammer even carried into the Advance series.
Wow, absolutely stunning. This makes the game look absolutely gorgeous. I definitely want to try this out next time I play Sonic Adventure
This is the most beautiful mod I’ve ever seen
And I PROMISE you, Sonic Advendure was not glitchy on the Dreamcast like it’s DX remake.
Correct. Weird that Sega rushed SADX when it still came out on GameCube after SA2 Battle. You'd think with the mistakes they made in SA2 Battle they would fix the ones in SADX before release. Ah well.
@@MacUser2-il2cx Oh shoot! So SA2 didn’t originally have everybody talking over each other, either?
I loved SADX on the GCN. The lighting's worse than on DC, but it came with a bunch of bonuses that made it so worth having. Haven't gotten to play the DC version, but I've hardly touched my PS3 port, and I don't even remember if I got the DLC bc it just makes it the-GCN-version-but-less.
The bonus missions and GameGear games are cool additions! I just wish the high quality lighting and collision detection wasn't lost in translation
Played SA2 on Dreamcast first and then GC. Aside from the stuff that got cut and some of the graphical glitches, it was the same game with extra stuff in multiplayer modes. At least now with mods we can fix any errors the game had in the Battle version and play it as if it came out on the Dreamcast as a special edition or something.
@@MacUser2-il2cx the GameCube port of SA2 was totally solid! I wish the HD versions had the love that Battle got. They're still decent for what they are!
huh, a day before I got DX on steam lol.
Perfect timing!
I can't be the only one who didn't have any issues playing the DX port as a kid. Are newer players just trying to make game look bad or something?
The DX port is fine. People who played the original are just haters.
No, you just didn't realize the issues were issues
I never had a problem with DX, it was great! I do think the original's graphics looked better though, even though I never had the chance to play it.
@@AlphaOblivion7 Yeah, I played DX for most of my life, saw DC and went "Oh, DX is garbage" because it is (to some degree) objectively garbage.
Yeah, this video paints DX in a pretty bad light. It's a perfectly fine way to play the game, and the DC version is actually worse in some respects (you can't skip cutscenes in that version). The only thing the DC version has above the DX version is the visuals, which can be modded into the PC version.
Another fun old game to play with raytracing is doom via source port and likewise quake 1.Doom 1's rooms and stairs have this believable sense of depth which is hard to believe until you witness it with your own eyes.
Eh, i will always be a DX and Battle kid lol. I grew up on those versions and love them so much
That aside, the mod showcase looks cool!
tutorial on how to install it?
Great video about this mod.
Que configuarcion pusiste, para el RTX
And now...
SAY HELLO TO DREAMCAST SONIC
Sadly as of right now, SA2 doesn't support Remix. But hopefully soon enough it will eventually be compatible and we can get a really good RTX Remaster!
SA2 still looks better compared to SA1.
Thumbs up if you still play retro games because you hate modern games I still do because we're basically just remaking everything right now.
We need to show the next generation how to do it right. That's why we have the remakes. These games came out before newer players and developers were even born. Games that push 20-30 years old are now older than people working on them. Yeah we still need fresh blood at Sega, Nintendo, ect. We always need fresh ideas. But even when stuff was made back then, they were inspired or influenced by stuff that came before. Gotta keep them in the public eye. Pass the torch, as they say.
Can the model be changed in RTX Mod? (I want to play it with the SA1 model with those Ultra graphics)
Yup! You can use either the DX or DC models
How do I install this idk how to
Not just ray tracing. RTX remix is a tool that can replace entire models with higher quality ones ray tracing is fairly easily to setup with rtx remix. its just more long and tedious as you have to set every light source to be a rtx light source which as you can tell is very time consuming. i tried doing this myself and only did emerald coast and station square and stopped because quite frankly yes its easy but its also time consuming. crazy to see someone really took the time to do this as its a lot.
I'd love to get this working on the steam deck
this really looks like a early 2000s ps2 game
I was thinking XBOX 360.
the sonic dx boss battles were great, and sonic dx was cool because you could play as the robot
That was in the original game too.
Now we only need a good homing attack and voila.
I like when Sonic flies everywhere when he uses the homing attack. lol
Are you telling me you can add stuff like this to Kingdom Hearts with enough elbow grease??
If they run on older versions of DirectX, yes!
does it actuallly play good this time
It's got the Dreamcast mod so yeah
While the shadows are a problem, i do gotta say the game looks very good 👍
Nah, Shadow is in the next game. *ba-dum tiss*
@@amirgarcia547 Get ouuut!!!
Yeah i don't like how it looks like sunset inside of the ice cap zone caverns, but overall it still looks good.
@@MacUser2-il2cx yeah I will agree. The ice sickles hanging from the ceiling looks plastic 😅
I find weird that I've played Mario 64 with HD studd and all that while still being low poly and I've preferred the DX version of Adventure more than the original on the Dreamcast.
It may be because of bias, but I always thought the Dreamcast games looked rather ugly, so a new coat of paint without being forced to have an RTX-capable card would've been real nice.
If there was a version of the Dreamcast Conversion mod that touched no visuals and another one that properly revamps the textures, maybe even the cutscenes, instead of using RTX only, then that'd he peak. Same for SA2 honestly as well.
i hate that i only have a 1660 super
I wonder if the Pc would react to this
3:50 Sonic Adventure DX?
I am gonna be completely honest. I doubt that 99.9% who disliked Sonic Adventure DX would suddenly sing the praises of it if they played the original dreamcast version.
Is the dreamcast version superior, ansolutely yes. Does that suddenly make DX an unplayable and unrecognizable trash, lol no.
I grew up with DX and frankly I really loved it, outside of the Chao system which I truly felt was a massive downgrade coming from Adventure 2. Outside of that, it's the Sonic game I come back to the most.
The mod looks incredible!
Adventure 2's Chao Garden is top tier!
A bit click baity but the mod looks stunning
am i the only one that likes big the cat stages?
It takes practice. A lot of practice.
what the...😦
I have the original sonic adventure
Sonic adventure grove street games edition
I dunno, I'm not clipping through the floor or being blinded by rain, so I think it's a little unfair to compare this to the Definitive Trilogy lol
@@DanRockProductions I mean it's not a completely fair comparison. I just think that the rtx lighting botches the art direction in an attempt to feel modern (like the definitive edition just without the potato models) . When what it mostly does is makes the shortcomings of the game's dated graphics look more apparent. It doesn't have to be a buggy hellscape to feel similar.
I think Sonic Adventure 2 is good, but the battle version is better
Battle and DX are still DLC on Steam so you pay extra for those.
Am I the only one whip thinks this looks like a Roblox game?
For some reason, no, even though it looks nothing like roblox
I can kinda see it, honestly it doesn't look that great, it still reminds me of those "GTA SA RTX ON" videos
This video basically sums up in "Higher graphics = Better game"
no
As someone who played DX for over 10 years before finally trying the Dreamcast version, DX isn’t THAT bad.
I’m sorry but it looks god awful like it clashes with the art style so hard
It looks like someone threw adventure assets on unreal or something
you cant slap a glorified filter on something and call it a remaster
true
Why do people still l think it's reshade? Do you even know what reshade is? Do you know how anything works?
It's not a filter tho? The lighting system has been fully reworked
@@DanRockProductions yeah but the game isn't remastered
It just has new lighting
@@Hex_Crashmania dude look at the gameplay shown off here and compare it directly to the vanilla SADX and tell me one doesn't look entirely better than the other. beside the ray tracing the other mod he mentioned overhauled the visuals and made it play better too so yes it is remastered
There's a lot of subtle things wrong with SA2 on Steam, but I wouldn't at all call it a "terrible port". Definitely not on the level of SADX, so I'm kinda confused why you'd even bring it up let alone equivocate them
The SA2 Steam port completely broke the rail grinding system, and turned a unique feature into a braindead button holding fest. Watch BlazeHedgehog's "Definitive Way to Play Sonic Adventure 2" vid for more info on that.
The lighting and sound mixing also suffered INCREDIBLY badly. SA2's port is pretty rough compared to the Dreamcast original.
@@DanRockProductions It did not, I've played SA2 on both PS3 and PC and grind rails are perfectly functional, with the full momentum and balance systems in place. If you bothered to play the game or even just listen you'd realize it's not that big a deal, possibly even coming down to general analog sensitivity that isn't the same for everyone.
As for sound balancing, yeah that's a problem, but it's also been a problem since the beginning, and personally I liked to just accept it as part of SA2's cheese.
Graphical errors, while numerous, tend to be pretty inconsequential to the experience of playing the game and the style of its aesthetics. SADX, on the other hand, is an entirely different beast.
@@hahasamian8010 "if I bothered to play the game" alone shows that you know absolutely nothing about me because I have literally streamed SA2 before on this very channel, but good attempt.
If you wanna tell the developers of the Input Control Mod that their mod does "nothing" to fix the grind rails, I'm sure they'd be happy to educate you further
@DanRockProductions You said it turned a unique feature into a braindead button holding fest, so yeah either that's a lie or you didn't play the game, dunno what to tell you
@@hahasamian8010 Okay, I've got stuff to do, so I'm not entertaining this any further.
I'll break it down for you and then I'm muting this thread:
-I have indeed played Sonic Adventure 2, multiple times on this TH-cam channel, dating all the way back to 2012. Very easily findable with a quick search actually!
-BlazeHedgehog has a lovely video explaining exactly how the grind rails do not work properly in either the PS3 or Steam versions. I implore you to watch it.
-Mods literally exist to fix this issue. Why would mods exist if it worked flawlessly?
Come on dude.
You're wrong. The PC port is what got used to port the game over to Steam, PS3 and the 360. The GC port was fantastic in comparisson, but still worse than the DC original.
The PC port was indeed the version they used for the Steam and 7th gen release, but it was a port *OF* the GameCube version, which even back then had collision issues and incorrect textures/UV maps. The Gamespot review from 2003 was one of the first to bring the issues to light, and that was a review of the GameCube version, not the PC port.
So people just ttyded the game
No! That’s so wrong! What makes DX worse than the original? The models are better, the graphics are better, the colors are more vibrant. Why would you want to play the og? I don’t get it
Animations get ruined, textures get muddied, audio gets really crunchy, lighting is broken or nearly nonexistent, collision is broken in multiple spots. There is a video by cybershell going over all of the differences and there is an entire article going over every difference in DX.
Cybershells video: th-cam.com/video/SORYL5J1Heg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Yu7yt-4VrV8K35da
Blog is in his description. Im not trying to dismiss your liking for DX. Just wanted to inform you.
Ain’t no way bro, they fell for segas trick 💀
@@levileavitt6393 Thank you for the information. I just grew up playing DX and I watch videos of both the OG adventures and DX and on the surface without playing the OG it looks to me like DX looks far better in comparison. I’ll watch this video and maybe reevaluate my opinion
Better textures, better reflections and lighting even before the RTX mod, less glitching in gameplay, better audio control, really the one thing the DX version has going for it on GameCube are the Game Gear games you can unlock.
@@reefkenig5874 I sort of did too. The only part of the original SA1 i got to play back in the day was running around Station Square on a kiosk in a store. DX was my first version i completed and then i eventually tracked down a Dreamcast and got my own copies of SA1 and 2. Honestly they are mostly the same with minor differences.
sonic adventure isn’t overhated. i’ve seen more praise than hate for it and if anything I think it’s overrated
It's a solid 3D platformer. :) That's all it needs to be.
lol this game sucks
When will y'all realize that slapping RayTracing onto a game from the 90's doesn't magically make it look better, in fact it looks worse than playing the original game on original hardware. This is why developers remake games from scratch.🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
I don't think it's objectively worse when work is put into the project. The devs of this mod have clearly gone to great lengths to maintain the integrity of the original style and it looks less like "hire this man" and more like the lighting genuinely complements the style. Mario 64 rt sucks because it doesn't really have much work put into it but this actually looks decent for what it is and I see it not as a replacement, but as an alternative.
@@CasiniLoogi Thank you. I've seen a couple other Sonic Adventure RTX projects that have not released, and trust me, they look horrible, because they go for realism, and a lot of Remix modders seem to confuse realism with "Slightly grounded" art syles, so it ends up looking horrible if there is no consideration for the original style. I have tried my absolute hardest to fit within that original style, I like to think I have succeeded. Obviously, I never expected everyone to like the mod, and I don't really care if people dislike it, but to imply that little effort was put into considering the original style is lying, and I'm no longer tolerating that.
The problem with remaking the game from scratch is that the design philosophy will be entirely different. SA1 was experimental to begin with, so one would think that a modern take on it would refine what SA1 did best, but the series has consistently regressed away from that direction starting as far back as Heroes, and most people's idea of "quality of life improvements" are questionable at best. I'm already in the camp of old games don't need extreme graphical overhauls, but I still prefer this to a remake that perverts the game to its core.
Agreed. While the lighting is clearly better, overall vibrancy has taken a massive hit in most scenes shown here. The only area that looked comparable to the OG was Sonic shredding down Icecap.
Especially when using the DX Graphics
fr like slap on some better textures, give sonic model slightly higher poly count, and this is fan remake of the year
Shiny new graphics don't make a bad game less bad. Its like polishing a turd. Its still the same duct-taped together abomination under the hood.