The Definitive Way to Play Sonic Adventure
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2017
- There's a new way to experience Sonic Adventure DX.
Jump right to the tutorial: 3:59
Jump right to the comparison: 12:52
Links:
-- SADX Mod Loader
info.sonicretro.org/SADX_Mod_L...
-- BetterSADX
steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
-- Dreamcast Conversion Mod
www.moddb.com/mods/sadx-dreamc...
-- SADX Palette Lighting Mod
forums.sonicretro.org/index.p...
-- SADX Input Mod
forums.sonicretro.org/?showto...
-- SADX Fixed Edition
forums.sonicretro.org/?showto...
The text version of the installation tutorial is too big/complicated for a video description, so I've written it up over on my personal blog. Click here:
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Notice: BetterSADX now contains an option to install the Dreamcast Conversion automatically, making the tutorial part of this video a bit obsolete.
Thanks for that pin, sorry if it inconveniences you in any way, Blaze, but the fans have spoken, and they spoke loud.
(we held a poll and adding them to the mod had absolutely overwhelming support of the idea)
Some additional insight:
We did implement it in an optional manner though, users that prefer the DX look still have a install setting for them, and we even reached out to the Speedrun community to make BetterSADX runner friendly.
Component install was something I had in mind for a long time so we could appeal to the speedrun guys- we only now just were able to realize it efficiently, along with making other improvements.
But that option of automatic installation is only for the Dreamcast Conversion mod or also for the Palette Lightning mod?
It's for both.
It makes more sense that way. Thanks!
BlazeHedgehog I recommend downloading betterSADX because the look around button doesn't work on the PC
Gave these mods a whirl a week ago, and I just can't go back after experiencing it. I always loved the original Dreamcast version, and I'm happy I can play a near-perfect, cleaner looking version of it on my PC.
Wish I had a PC that wasn't shit at playing games.
SomecallmeJohnny
When the BrainScratch Crew & Gareth do the SA1 Revisit, you guys should use this mod!
Super Sonic in Adventure showcase for SGB?
OHHH MY GOD HI JOHHNY :D
easy if you build one
I think this is the first time I've heard someone actually say "personal computer" out loud.
"Watch out! You're gonna crash! AHHH!"
I don't care what people say, these lines are great. Silly but still nostalgic.
sonic.exe has stopped working
Windows is checking for a solution to the problem...
@@Devixicus sonic.exe scary
Seriously though, I like the better models because of how less distracting their animations are. I know that Cybershell doesn't like them, and the lighting DOES make them look like plastic, but the newer models still look A LOT better than their older ones.
@@eddieolivas4804 I think both have their value
@@eddieolivas4804 i just don''t like how they are shiny and glossy, and i just like the way sonics dreamcast model looks
Fantastic video. Extremely helpful and this mod is awesome. Pretty much how SADX should have always been.
does it have any viruses
@@h-6613 nah man
That explains why DX has aged so horribly.
You can't really blame hardware as as reason why SADX aged horribly. I'll admit, it has aged pretty badly but even then I still enjoy it despite all the massive flaws. Modders usually put in a lot of work to make games look either better or make it even smoother. This however isn't really "the game aged badly because the graphics were crap" but rather a restoration mod. Restoration mods have been around since I'm fairly certain 2009 with many graphics restoration as well as sound restoration.
Pretty much this ^^
SA, for its time, did what it could to look decent (Even though it was rushed [which I didn't realize until now]), and DX was more than likely due to Sega's... err, "lack of foresight" with their conversions; generally being simply "good enough" for the time and nothing more. It's not bad (I.E. Arkham Knight, RE4 SourceNext...) but not great either (*Insert decent PC port here*). This goes for both SADX, Heroes, and Phantasy Star Online (And hell, to an extent, even SA2 2012).
Still, fun games. And restoration projects are just added cherries to the whole experience.
yea the bad handling by amateurish programmed ports...
this is why sometime emulating is better.
but sadly the dreamcast emulator is not in good shape...
but if you want the best dx experience,dolphin is the way to go instead of steam version...but i am now glad the steam version can be moded to restore some dignity to the game with this dreamcast mod.
It's a tough sell even when it comes to the Adventure titles alone on PC, since SADX is the most "amateur" of the ports on the thing with many a dropped aspect, subtle or otherwise. There's also the fact that Adventure is, no matter how you spin it (ha), a rushed 3D Sonic title and it feels like it. Though, I won't admit there's a sickeningly endearing charm to that for a number of reasons.
But because of the slap-dash porting job in the first place, it makes the game harder to mod for systems that should feasibly run it. Namely, the palette lighting mod kills performance on Integrated Graphics-based systems. But, at least the Dreamcast textures make up for (most) of the look lost in the conversion.
It's funny to bring up emulation because, even on a PC, if you can't run Demul then it's basically impossible to have half-decent performance AND compatibility. Which is a shame. (Though I would argue BetterSADX + DC Conversions is a better method than DolphinSADX)
But hey, at least SA2 made the transition fine. . . Several years late. (Thoughitsmypersonalfavoritesoitmaybetotallynotbeabias)
Seong's Songs cant say it was rushed...it was a 98/99 game,outside n64 platformer,not a lots of games was that good,the psx was still there with dated graphics,the ground breaking ps2 was not out yet.
it is true the 2 was a better game and sequel but mostly because it was years later and the industry had matured...
*As someone who has only played the original dreamcast version.... HOW DID THE FUCK UP THE COLOR PALETTE SO BADLY!? YOU HAD ONE JOB SEGA!*
That moment when your tutorial is unfortunately rendered completely useless because the mod is intergrated into BSADX
I like this mix of SADX models and SA1 lighting and textures. It looks good.
Cubester64
Indeed.
Wow. This is inarguably the best-looking version of Sonic Adventure.
Ok since the video says this,here you go mobile users:
The tutorial was started in 03:59
The comparison was in 12:52
Thank me later.
Your voice is so soothing.
Sarcasm?
No, not at all. There's just something... Calm and almost nonchalant about it. I'm no Sena fan, thought I'm a game documentary enthusiast for sure.
Most out there are yelling, sarcastic, try-hard to be funny "games" channels - this dude is just to the point and nearly... Clinical lol
I'm not the OP, I just agree, and don't see them responding after 2yrs 🤣
I was thinking the exact same thing...
You're kidding, right? Great video but this nigga sounds like Carl Wheezer.
Port of a port of a port of a port of a port of a game... *falls down stairs for 8 years*
10/10 Sonic doesn't look like a glazed donut anymore.
I prefer the glazed donut look since most older game characters look either soaked in water or glazed and has more of a nostalgic look
If I had a nickel for every time I had to use mods to fix a remaster I would have two nickels.
Thats not a lot but its funny that it happened twice.
Lol at how Japanese original Sonic smiles at Tails crashing.
You weren't kidding when you said this was the definitive way to play Sonic Adventure! This mod not only restores the Dreamcast textures, lighting, and general look, but also adds beautiful HD textures and Widescreen! Something I could never get with Dolphin! Thank you so much, dude!
This guy's voice becomes 40% sexier at the end of every sentence
Lmfaoo
I can't unhear it now.
wow, i grew up with the gamecube edition. had no idea it was an inferior port. those dreamcast textures look a lot more cartoony and pleasing to look at. i might give this mod a try.
Seriously I think this is a matter of perspective, dreamcast purists "believe" the dream cast version is best because that's the first one that they played, that and when they came back to the game years later on either the GameCube or Xbox 360 they refused to believe the game had aged really badly seriously this is just sad sonic adventure isn't that great in the meantime I'll keep playing sonic 2 3, & generations waiting hopefully for the day Sega strike gold again
Except that's not true at all -- Sonic Adventure DX makes more than just arbitrary art direction changes. Obviously I wasn't about to replay the entire game three or four different times to compare every single piece, but just playing each version of the game up to the first boss, every single cutscene in DX is not only different, but slightly broken in a new way. Watch the comparison montage at the end, specifically the part where Sonic and Tails encounter Knuckles. When it flips to the footage for Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic is actually facing the wrong direction.
And then there's this: blazehedgehog.tumblr.com/post/155452467831/everything-is-normal-for-roughly-3-4-frames
That entire cutscene is full of tons of tiny errors that quickly stack up: twitter.com/BlazeHedgehog/status/817015569358737408
I'm sure there are way more than that, but replaying Sonic's story 3-5 times to document them all was well outside of the scope of this video (which was already almost 15 minutes long and serves three different functions). The overall point here is that Sonic Adventure DX is a sloppy update that makes a messy game look even messier. The two or three things it legitimately enhances aren't worth everything it takes away or breaks.
Also, art direction is very important. There's a reason I bring up the Star Wars Special Editions. Using CG to add windows where there didn't used to be any, or insert new characters in to old scenes creates a jarring, ugly disconnect where two styles mismatch and clash against each other in a distracting way. A lot of DX's visual changes don't even make any sense, and only serve to make the game look washed out and more simplistic.
If you prefer the look of DX, that's fine, but there's no shame in trying to restore what has been broken.
BlazeHedgehog hey thanks for replying I just want to clear something up I first owned played and completed sonic adventure on the dreamcast and then the same on the GameCube while I agree with you on the cutscenes the GameCube version made the bad dreamcast cutscenes even worse but the game it self in my opinion looked Ran and played better on the GameCube, I laughed so hard when I saw the cutscenes on the GameCube with sonics crazy eyes and ears, seriously tho no matter which version you play there is no fixing that camera sonic adventure needs a proper remaster would love to see that
Mate the current Steam version of Sonic Adventure DX is a disaster. BetterSADX is absolutely necessary to enjoy the game. Instead of letting it age in the fridge, they kicked it around in the sun and when they got tired of it they were like "alright just throw what's left of this on steam"
Also i agree with you, last time sega stroke gold was with Generations. It's a shame they keep fucking up the open world games tho.
This whole DCvsDX situation really comes down to the fact that when they went back to port the game over to GCN/PC, they more-or-less completely forgot what the hell their vision was, started half-assedly making new models and sticking them in, and just assuming that "Hey, if it worked before, one little change or fifty won't make a difference, right?"
Except, yeah, it was bundled together with cheap adhesive and one of Duke Nukem's spare drawing boards to begin with. Making sloppy changes without retooling the game to accommodate for said changes sort of ruins the image that's left.
Really, most of the charm that comes from SA1(DX) is popcorn humor; its somewhat broken nature is kind of appealing in a sinister way, and it just happens to be bundled up with a good OST and decent visual design to wrap it up (Which the mods do a good enough job of [more or less] restoring). Of course, whether people will realize this -- or even agree with it -- is subjective.
(I also realize I basically just agreed with/restated what you said already, so this is a bit redundant, haha)
But eh, I was more an SA2 person myself. And that game has its own silly quirks so nothing's perfect, ze?
I do not agree with that at all. I grew up with Sonic Adventure DX and didn't even know what the original looked like until about 5 years ago and I love the more lush environments, more sophisticated lighting, and overall darker yet deeper look. DX looks like a poorly made cartoon. I hate the shallow and same-y environments, the slightly off model characters, the ugly shine they put on whatever they wanted to... The original game had a charm in it's low poly character models, and the original textures look great. SADX is just a messy visual replacement with no vision.
Can't thank you enough for this, Sonic Adventure DX is kinda gross looking imo.
I love how this look and feels like a tutorial that came with the game
*messes with the files and does something stupid*
Sonic: WATCH OUT, UR GONNA CRASH! AHH- *glitches*
I have a greater appreciation for the Dreamcast version now
Very nicely put together. Really nicely summarizes the issue with the port of a port of a port of a port. Had I tried to do it, I'd end up with an hour long video displaying everything wrong with just the Steam version compared to the original PC port alone. lol
The intro retrospective was actually originally twice as long before I re-wrote it. Something I try to keep in mind is only needing to hit 2-3 of the biggest, most important things and leaving the rest up to assumption.
The steam port is a pile of crap, I remember I couldn't even run it on an old pc that could run the original port.
The dreamcast conversion mod looks amazing
I saw in the comments section remarks and teasing about your voice or whatever, those are sad people seeking for attention.
I found your voice very calming and professional for video tutorials as a matter of fact.
Your entire video not only saved me forever searching for getting the mods (I was specifically looking for super sonic) but you made everything clear about what each thing is intended for. And you actually gave me new info about the Dreamcast version. I never knew there was such a major difference in shaping and lighting and would never think about having that.
I found your video to be the only one comprehensive enough. thanks for everything
Honestly, it's fine. It's continually weird to me that most people only talk about my voice in reference to other people I sound like, but only a few are ever actually rude. And there will always be a rude person out there, somewhere. Thanks, though.
@@BlazeHedgehog alright. I wouldn't say weird but different in a way you actually manage to pass the info needed for the tutorial.
most of the vids I've ever seen regarding to sonic were tiresome with lots of inside jokes and just rushing through in an arrogant way as if we all know that already haha just noting
I never noticed how much better the Dreamcast version looked until now
Dreamcast version is the best imo
Yeah
Nah
Facts
I disagree
If you mean better in terms of appearance than the Dreamcast version trumps SADX. But if you include the definitive modded edition, that blows dreamcast out of the water.
Thank you so much. The tutorial is so thorough and doesn’t make assumptions about what I know. I know functionally nothing when it comes to mods.
It’s truly appreciated
Two days ago I finished Adventure mode, and now I find this video. Playing with a ps4 controller was painful most of the time, keyboard didn't make it better, but I wanted to test this mods, and somehow they fixed the gameplay, it makes it feel so much better. and it made the graphics of the game more enjoyable. Because of these mods playing trough the adventure mode again is totally worth it, thanks for the video! Easy to follow and really well explained!
I love how the conversion looks. I like it because the original dreamcast was running on it's native resolution on 480p, but because it's ported on PC/Steam, the native resolution will be 1080p, so that means not only higher resolution, but also cleaner and crisp-ier UHD textures :3
Actually, the textures are the same, it's just the HUD that's changed.
I love this video, but people seem to ask questions here a lot, so here is a list of questions and answers that I got from the guide for the mod loader and some from the comments themselves. Enjoy!
Q: Can you use WinRAR?
A: Yes, you can.
Q: Does the Dreamcast Conversion remove the Game Gear titles?
A: No, the Game Gear titles stay.
Q: Do I lose my save data?
A: No, you keep your save data.
Q: The installer says I don't have Sonic Adventure DX on Steam installed even though I do.
A: Uninstall the game and Install it again through the Steam client.
Q: My Google Chrome says your hotpatch is malicious! Is it?
A: No, it's absolutely not, Google Chrome seems to mark installers in this size range that delete files (Something the hotpatch needs to do to update you to the latest version) as potentially harmful. Our patcher only modifies files for Sonic Adventure DX. In addition, we also scan all our patches with VirusTotal just to make sure and provide you with certainty that there is absolutely no way these files can harm you. You can see the latest scan for the hotpatch here. [www.virustotal.com]
Q: My textures seem screwed up and my characters are invisible! How do I fix this?
A: Typically the reports of this are solved by disabling Raptr's Overlay feature or closing that game client entirely while running the game. It seems to interfere with the game's renderer. If you don't have Raptr and experience this, please comment below with the information detailed above under Troubleshooting.
Q: Where are the save files located?
A: Inside the SteamApps/common/Sonic Adventure DX/SAVEDATA/ folder. You can jump to the install directly by choosing "Browse Local Files" in the properties menu for the game.
Q: The Game Crashes when tabbing out of true fullscreen, how fix?
A: There isn't any way to fix than by playing in windowed fullscreen, which we recommend, we can't correct this issue, unfortunately.
Q: How do I uninstall BetterSADX?
A: Well, if you want to uninstall BetterSADX and use the Steam port instead, we would like to know why, so leave a comment below if you would. The process for removal is simple, uninstall the game through either the system uninstall menu or choose to delete local content inside of steam for the game. After this, simply delete the "Sonic Adventure DX" folder from your SteamApps/common/ folder. Note that doing this will also delete your BetterSADX save files, but won't delete your Steam version saves, which are saved in a different location. From there, simply reinstall the game via Steam.
Q: My controller isn't working for the game or I am experiencing issues with the camera spinning, how do I fix this?
A: If your controller isn't working at all, it may be because the Input-Mod doesn't understand your controller type, and you will need to provide an SDL2 mapping for it. You can make one and provide it to the game by following these steps
Download this SDL2 Gamepad Tool[www.generalarcade.com] and extract the zip file into a suitable location.
Run the tool and click "Create a New Mapping" and press the equivalent buttons as shown on the screen, pressing skip if your controller lacks the appropriate button, and name the mapping after the type/brand of controller you have.
Click on "Copy Mapping String"
Open the Sonic Adventure DX Mod Manager by clicking configure for the game in steam.
Click on the "Open Mods Folder" button in the Mod Manager.
Open the folder called "Input-Mod"
Right-click in the folder and create a new text file. Name it "gamecontrollerdb.txt" and open it.
Right-click in the text file and paste the mapping string into the text document and save it.
Your gamepad should now (In theory) work properly with Sonic Adventure DX.
If the controller is simply rotating the camera, it likely means the input-mod isn't loading at all due to a missing dependency. You are probably missing the Visual C++ 2015 x86 redist, which you may install manually from here.[www.microsoft.com] Patch 3.3a and above now does this automatically, so I would instead recommend you download our latest hotpatch and run that instead to ensure you are using the latest version and fix this issue.
Q: The menus are tiny! Help!
A: That's normal, if you want them to be larger, you can play in a lower resolution, such as 854x480.
The in-game hud can be scaled with the Mod Loader, it's in the options tab. Proper scaling for menus is planned, but currently not actively worked on, it'll get done when it's done.
I'll try my best to answer any more questions.
If TH-cam let me pin multiple comments, this is something I'd definitely pin. I think by replying to this, and hearting it, it'll keep it close to the top of the stack, at least.
@@BlazeHedgehog Thanks! Just trying to help.
Cool
I’m probably extremely stupid but when I try and play it says “MSVCP140.dll is missing, try and reinstall the program” btw I’m using the 2004 PC edition
I have even tried reinstalling sonic adventure but nope.
If you can give any help soon I would appreciate
I stumbled upon your video yesterday while looking at what kind of mods I could find for this game. Honestly, this is how every tutorial video should be done. Your explanations are crystal clear and very detailed, all the while being really easy to follow. Great job! :)
while it seems this video is outdated i would recommend the AI HD textures and the AI HD FMVs mods to improve the game textures and FMVs to make them more on par with today's standards
13:00 man...can i just get something out there real quick? This is what i consider good editing. Of course, showing the before and after but also CUEING EACH VERSION TO THE SONG. you made it look so satisfying to watch and so much more enjoyable. Thank you so much!
Really great video. Hearing the story of the how the PC and new ports were made was so interesting. I actually didn't know that. And now with this tutorial I can finally play a version closer to the dream cast edition! :)
Yo, great video, man! So glad I bumped into this, was about to play the 2004 version I found in the HD of my old computer, but then I decided to search for a widescreen fix and stumbled upon your video. It will be a way better experience now. Thank you for making this!
I'm completely fine with the DX Port, but I can't deny that the Dreamcast original has better lighting, shading and more natural looking colors. I don't see the appeal about the models though.. The DX Port's character models just look so much more natural to me.
By they way, there are a lot of things that a lot of people fail to point out about DX. There's something better in the DX version about the story presentation than the DC version. "One thing that annoyed the hell outta me in the original game is that every time a character spoke, the game had to load it, and thus the disc reader made a large amount of loud, distracting noise. For one reason or another, the DX version doesn't have this problem." Sure, the lighting on the newer models does make them look like plastic, but these newer models still look a lot better than their older ones. Besides, you can SKIP THE DAMN CUTSCENES which the DC version doesn't let you do. Also, the graphics can go farther off into the distance without getting blurry. On the DC version, when you look at the things from far away, everything gets blurry. While pretty much all the colors are brighter in DX, it definitely feels like I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE GAME. AND the game maintains a mostly solid 60fps. The Chao garden especially is so much better, and we even got a new Mission Mode. Sure, the Mission Mode is just OK, but overall though, it's a nice improvement over the original game that's there for whoever wants it.
Imagine if they released the HD ports of Adventure 1&2 on the switch, and tweaked everything to their og state, along with keeping the added features of the GameCube versions such as the Chao gardens content and features. That’d be awesome.
Even though I grew up with the Gamecube version, I always thought there was something off about the look of the game when I compared it to footage of the original Dreamcast version. Bless the guys who worked on this mod. Definitely need to check it out once I get a better computer.
I was born in 1998, I only play this game in 2006-2007.
I was born when modern style appear, I mean that's cool because Adventure's serie was the best modern Sonic games ever!
Just revisited this vid after finally deciding to give SA1 a go and was pleasantly surprised to see BetterSADX and the Dreamcast conversion were made into one mod. Worked like a charm!
Thank you. I first got this game from one of those school catalogs in kindergarten and I loved playing this game! I couldn’t remember the name of it for a long time, and the original disc I had was unfortunately destroyed. This game was very nostalgic for me. Appreciate this upload!
It's a shame that water effects from Emerald Coast, better collision detection or cutscene errors will still be a thing even with the mod since the mod only seems to enhance the lighting and change out the textures to better textures. I guess, at least it does that but the definite version would still be the Dreamcast original because of e.g. the collision detection.
And it only works on a North American CD? That's kinda... disappointing. I have a European one... I guess I'd have to rebuy Adventure on Steam then.
Still a good video though.
A Blob you can just look for a us no cd. there should be one on main memory his site
I... don't recall the collision engine being different between DX and Dreamcast. It was the level collision that was changed. For some reason, DX made a lot of the collision 'weaker', leading to stuff like being able to clip through the wall of the tunnel before the snowboard section in Ice Cap.
Also, yes, the requirement for the NA version only extends to the EXE. MainMemory, an SADX hacker, supplies the required EXE on his website.
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The collision is fixed with the levels being readded I thought
As long as the original Dreamcast release has unskippable cutscenes, it will always be the worst version imo. ;)
There are mods that convert the Steam version to the 2004 CD version out there.
To think that my first and only contact with Sonic Adventure was the PC version is shocking. Even more shocking is that I thought it was magical, and incredibly atmospheric, and fun to play. So from where I come from, I'm going from the worst possible version to the very best, which is super lucky, if you ask me.
Great video! Definitely overlooked some of these as a kid but love that I can experience what is basically the original game in HD with its original visuals
I really wish I had a Dreamcast and a copy of Sonic Adventure. Nonetheless, I'm glad that the fanbase is slowly making that dream come true. Thanks for sharing this. :)
Sega just needs to remaster sa1 and sa2 imagine how much money they would make.
BetterSADX makes Emerald coast look like an '06 level lol
I have cool mod
about chaos 0
WATCH OUT! MY PC IS GONNA CRASH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!111
i hate myself for laughing so hard at this
Incredibly well made video and tutorial! I really appreciate the detail and easy instructions provided. Thanks!
From the looks of the video, and the version i'm using, it seems that they made an update to this where it changes the character models as well.
I love this mod. It converts the DX version back to the original, while adding some new features (like widescreen & HD) and keeping the few improvements that the DX version had (like skipping cutscenes and the game gear ports)
With that said, this is, in my opinion, without a doubt, the absolute best way to play Sonic Adventure.
You can also choose to just use the old textures with the new models, which is also quite nice
@@spindash64 Yeah. I know I'm 2 months late but screw it I'll still make a reply. I personally prefer the original models, but I know there's people out there who like the DX models way better, but I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that the DX textures look disgusting. Sonic's arms in the DX version look like spaghetti to me. The option to use the DX models and make them use the old textures is always nice for the people who prefer the DX models.
Really looking forward to trying this, I didn't realise how significant the lighting effects were on the Dreamcast version. Plus I've always had minor stuttering on the Steam port, and it's not my PC, so hopefully this mod fixes that.
Your voice is amazing btw!
But thanks for this tutorial ive been looking forward to doing this mod for quite some time.
This was an amazing tutorial! It went in depth and helped me out a lot. Thanks. Earned a sub.
You know you fucked up when your HD remaster has worse texture than the dreamcast original.
Also, the hell happened to the lighting in DX?
Has anyone noticed in the comment section there are kids trying to hip and cool by saying Sonic Adventure is a bad game?
To the top you need to go.
Ashwath Nair Okay?
THANK you.
Thanks for the help! Didn't realize I needed this until I tried it.
Thank you for the video, i have discovered it not too long ago but it has helped in terms of not only the better way to play the game, but also to add mods in general because i didnt know how to add mods on sonic adventure lol
Damn, this comments section turned into a real cesspool since this video's original release.
This video was very helpful. I think you have a comfy voice
wATcH oUt YoUR'rE gONnA CraSH! AH
Thanks for making the video I had no idea about these mods and it inspired me to give the PC version another chance. I got the Dreamcast at launch so I was very disappointed with the other ports of this game. All I had to do was install BetterSADX which did everything else automatically.
Woah, you actually got it to where you can play the game in HD widescreen? That's so awesome!!!!
Honestly I can see the benefit for the DX versions and the Conversion Mod. While the CM makes the shadows more complex and less cel-shaded/plastic-looking, such shadows also make scenes look darker than the scene suggests. Sure the cel-shading had its issues but it also made the characters look closer to the official art. I will agree that backgrounds easily improved for the CM.
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It would be better to have a remaster that builds the game's graphics from the ground up
I remember watching this video when it came out and playing sonic adventure the definitive way. SADX PC was my childhood game, and it was nice to see the mod manager improve it so heavily. Although sometimes I like to turn off fixed edition to do speedrun tricks. Otherwise, a great video and I highly recommend to anyone wanting to try this game out.
awesome comparison vid !! =D
This needs to be done with SA2 especially since the sound mixing got worse with each port.
What!? I can't hear your comment over the music!
Well, I own SA2 on Steam, and I compared the audio to walkthroughs of the DC version, and I can CONFIDENTLY say that I can't notice any big differences. It was already kinda loud in the DC version to begin with.
I always thought DX looked a little off. Nice to know I'm not crazy! Also your voice is real nice to listen to
Quackbillion
The DC models, tho... *shudder*
Codrian Drasil DC? HAVE YOU SEEN THE ORGINAL?
*****
I have seen the Dreamcast models. They're overly blocky and jagged. O.o
I would call it a enhanced port not per say a "remake". It certainly doesn't remake the game in a superior manner like Ocarina of Time 3D and RE-make but it's a serviceable way to play it. If you don't mind how it plays or how shiny the models are then the GC version is alright. Though, Adventure 2 I admit had a better GC enhanced port than Adventure 1 did. I felt like it was half assed in a lot of areas.
reading about all the glitches and techs really makes me want to play sonic adventure adventure again great video
T H I S is a real tutorial
congratulations dude
This adds back in the neon cowgirl sign as well
How? That is only in Japan.
Wow, this is pretty neato. The DX character models actually look pretty great with the Dreamcast lighting engine.
Not sure why exactly, but your voice reminds me of the way Otacon from the Metal Gear series sounds (which is a good thing :P). Thank you for the very informative video!
dude I was thinking the same shit
This worked GREAT! Thanks for the tutorial and the links. :D
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Jasoncrafter82 nice reference
As someone who has only ever played the GC version, I cant get over how Sonic looks in the Dreamcast version
You should see what Chaos looks like in the Dreamcast version vs the GC version especially perfect Chaos. He was made specifically to show off some of the new graphics technology of the Dreamcast because changing fluids in 3D weren't possible until that point. No port afterwards has had the same technology and they never bothered to fix his model to work properly with newer technology.
I came to this channel originally because i was looking for a remix of Chaos Angel that was used in a fangame. Sadly, you weren't the BlazeHedgehog i was looking for. As far as i know. But, you were the one i deserved.
It's possible I am both. soundcloud.com/blazehedgehog/chaos-angel-zone-act-3-2017
A port of a port of a port of a port.
And this is why PC is the definitive platform for everything.
Because it has worse versions of console games?
If anything, it just proves that the dreamcast is the definitive platform.
I like the dx models have Dreamcast lighting and textures on them compared to unmoded one. Plus all the Dreamcast textures (on patches of this mod) are redone to look hd and looks great. Widescreen is great for this and isn't cropped compared to other games.
The only issue is the draw distance is still crap on Dreamcast and dx. If the draw distance is better and has much less pop in, the game would be easier to find power ups far away amd for 4k PCs.
The actual way to play sonic adventure.
Play sonic adventure, its the dopest shit despite its flaws, on either version.
「Retro Drive System」 The actual way is playing the DC version, not the shitty DX port.
+SpardaGuy 2003
I don't want to play a speed based game at 30fps, thanks.
j you barely even notice it i played the game on the Dreamcast
i It's hard to even notice that it's running at 30fps.
One of the most amazing mods I've ever seen in my life. Thank you for bringing my attention to this. I was so sick of the purple borders on the 360 version.
Yup. Why didnt anyone think of 16:9 ratios back then? 4:3 looks horrible
the end was beautiful
Man thanks for add Spanish subtitiles, you have a new subscriber :D
wow bro props on some astoundingly interesting research , i wondered why i didnt get quite as much of a migic feeling when i play on pc i have got to get a dream cast and original sonic
Better Sadx has all of these pre installed now
To be completely honest, I ended up getting the Dreamcast version and playing it on my Dreamcast and it was pretty much as glitchy as Sonic Adventure DX. Well to be fair I didn't buy a copy but burned it to a CD (which I'm pretty sure created some glitches that weren't in the original; certain textures or music didn't load or was the wrong audio which I think might be because the file I found to burn to disc had those elements removed so it'd fit on a 700MB CDR?), but most of the glitches with wonky collision detection and camera, which are my main concerns with Sonic Adventure, seem to be present in both the Dreamcast and DX versions.
Yeah, the fact that the DX version is buggier is simply a myth.
@@memebot6490 Ehhhh I dunno. I played the GC version first, and I couple times I just spin dashed out of existence.
“ where ya goin ya big drip”
Dreamcast adventure just looks so much better. Can't wait to play it like I used to when the Dreamcast Mini comes out
i think my only complaint with the overall result is that the modded character models dont look as pudgy as the original dreamcast version. while the new character models look really nice, i think the concept of "playing the game as it was originally intended" would be more realized if the original models were recreated to look the same but with a higher polygon count. part of me thinks it would be better if he didnt even have individual fingers if only just to keep close to the original. other than that i think this video is well done and the end result looks great!
Just so you know (I'm late to this comment, I know), there's a mod you can put in the mod loader/manager that lets you replace the DX models with the Dreamcast models.
Dreamcast all the way. The horrible next gen port has now imbedded a misconception that this game was never good. Everyone is playing the wrong version!
Mark Edison Not like everybody owns a Dreamcast.
This game and Adventure 2 need hd remakes. As in not just slapping hd models but fixing the numerous problems. Perhaps even adding new things.
We need the original level designers back, and they should make two more bonus open world hubs with five new levels
Thanks man this really helped me
Man Sonic Adventure was my first game ever so this is pretty awesome that this can be done
Wow, I didn't realize they changed so much for the DX version. Well, I might just have to hunt me down a Dreamcast and an original copy.
Good luck with that
Great video, thanks a lot man!
Great vid dood, I played the DC and GC version and never notice the changes.
this video was a blessing to see on my feed