One thing I think some people forget, some of us live in an apartment, meaning subwoofers are a no go 😔 but we still want good sound quality! What I like about this system is I can get it now without a sub, and once we get into a house, we can just purchase the sub as an add on 😁
I live in an apartment and have a sub. Just turn the gain down on it, and make sure that its not directly touching the carpet or hardwood. I suggest buying a subdude pad or something similar to take the vibrations from the sub so it doesnt disturb your neighbors. Hope this helps
I live in an apartment as well. I know it’s not ideal, but I flip my sub over on it’s side so it’s front firing rather than down. Cuts down on the boomy sound (which I hate) but still hits the lows.
I’ve had mine for several weeks now with the big sub and using an 83A90J as the Centre channel. It really is amazing. The depth and layering of the sound is fantastic. I’m hearing new details in the sound from movies I’ve seen many times before. I’ve had several systems before including the Sammy 950a and the JBL bar 9.1. The HT-A9 is vastly superior and in another league. (One of my sons now has the Sammy and my sis the JBL lol). As for sound drop outs, they happen for me 2-3 times a week. Easily fixed (settings/wireless speakers/ RF off and on). So no big deal. I’ve noticed they happen most often with the internal apps and I have not experienced any drop outs with discs from my Panny UB 820 connected directly to the HT-A9. Or from my Sony 800 (region free) disc player connected to the A9 via TV eARC. Going to try using an Apple 4K box for apps to see if this eliminates drop outs entirely. I’ll post an update if it helps.
@@benjiebarker no you can’t … you can’t add an extra satellite or sub. The phantom centre is actually very good. When I first heard it at my dealer I was looking to see where the Centre channel was 😂. Using the A80/A90 as the centre is I think ideal as it lets you widen the soundstage by moving the fronts as wide apart as you like without worrying about the sweet spot of the phantom. I think the HT-A9 has been designed to fit best with Sony’s acoustic surface audio TV’s (A80/A90) as I heard that using it with the X95J it doesn’t match well.
@@kojak99100 Just want to add that the Sony A1 OLED also has acoustic surface audio, but it cannot be used as a center channel. You will need a newer model to use the acoustic surface audio as center channel.
Spot on review. I have this system and A80J, although never had speaker drop outs except with AirPlay from iPhone. Simple solution is to play music from TV apps rather than phone to resolve. I ended up turning off the S Centre as it wasn’t as good an experience as just phantom centre from the HT-A9. I positioned the HT-A9 front speakers with slight “toe in” and have the tweeters at “ear height”. Viewing “eye height” is in line with 1/4 of TV height. Different folks will prefer different setups, but this works perfectly for our home. On your wall, i really suggest you try dropping the height of speakers to optimise the tweeter level from sitting position.
Thanks for the feedback. And it is crazy That the phantom center speaker is better than actually using the TV for that. I heard other TH-camrs reiterate the same.
Ive got the HT-A9 with the SW3 sub. Its great. Along with my new A90J 83" and it makes up for cinemas being closed for 18 months, and i can't spend money on holidays.
@@BTheInstaller i sit about 9 feet from the TV. My living room is a rectangular room with the left side open to the dining table and kitchen, so i toe-in the speakers on the left. Ceiling normal 8 feet high, but dolby atmos height effects are still rare in movies.
@@BTheInstaller Hi first thanks for the great review about the Sony HT-A9 vs Sonos arc sorround systems comparison. I am just waiting to receive a JBL 9.1 sound bar to be used with my brand new Samsung AU 8000 smart tv. But after this review I am going to sell my JBL sound bar to buy rather the Sonos arc or this new Sony with 360 tecnology HT-A9 system. I already have a great complete Technics home theater system in my family room, its has already 15 year’s of use but still almost wants to break my house windows every time I used 👍😊💪. But now I want to install a new one this time for another quiet large room. My house is made of 100% concrete including the walls in case this info also some how influence in the acustic of the room. It has a rectangular shape and is 15 feets wide, 21 feets long with a 9 feet high ceiling. According to the opinion of others sound systems experts like you, most of them agreed that this rectangular shape room with his 9 feet high ceiling is perfect to extract the best sound effect of this new dolby atmos sorround sound. But now comes the one million dollar question. I am more a music guy than a movie with sound effects person, so taking this into consideration wich of these two premium sorround systems satisfies better my personal taste? The Sony HT-A9 with the SA-SW3 300 watts subwoofer or the Sonos arc with one or maybe two gen 3 subwoofers and a pair of SL ones sorround rear speakers? Thanks in advance for honest and expert opinion, I just want to make the right choice before I spend my hard earned cash in any of this two sorround systems. This to avoid the same mistake I already did after buying the JBL sound bar without doing a good research.
Thanks for the review. I have the system since a month. 2 weeks without a subwoofer and 2 weeks with the SW3. Tried the system with both subs. I have the SW3 with the sub on 9 out of 12 in setting and its more than enough for my taste. TV is Samsung Q9. I have mixed feelings. I had a hard wired Teufel 5.1 system before from 2008. Due to our new place i wanted to minimize the equipment and cabling. Pro is the setup and the fact that the hub is inside my shelf and it works (with some drop outs). Compared to my old system my finding is the following. With weak sources the old system was better. With Dolby or proper 5.1 stream the new system is better. The reason is the lack of audio settings. In my old system I was able to change the volume of each channel and the frequency of the sub which had a huge influence on the mids and thus the overall balance as well. I was able to tweak around until I found the sweet spot for my individual taste. The sound was more consistent on all sources. The new system is impressive with good quality sources. Very crisp and very punchy base with a much more immersive sound compared to my old system watching the ususal streaming on the Samsung apps (by the way TV is from 2018 and the embedded apps are NOT supporting Atmos - will need to work around probably with Apple TV 2021). What I dont like is the performance on normal TV audio. The presets are not precise enough. I have always the feeling that the voices are not present enough especially on low volume. A bit annoying. Hope that Sony will update the firmware with options to customize. Overall i will keep it. My advice: If you want to buy this setup for some home entertainment cinema experience then go for it. If you want to upgrade your TV speaker for daily routine then you should rethink your expectations. Of course its a huge upgrade but in this budget range you might find a setup which fits better to your needs.
I’ve had the A9 for several weeks (with the SW5 sub.) it is a great system. Shout out to Value Electronics. I’d like to have more control over the EQ. More mids to tame the Sony smile EQ. Also have regular drop outs even with the hub in clear view and the speakers with good line of sight. Do frequent resets of RF. Sony MUST address this! Great review! Thanks.
Thanks for sharing, I'm trying to get my hands on a system too so it's nice to know what an average consumer thinks about the H9. It is by no means cheap, but after what I have heard, it is a good "budget" alternative to a full Atmos capable stand-alone system.
@@bomb_and_gouge I am also very interested to buy this new Sony HT-A9 sorround system for my house with the SW 3 sub, but the drop outs issues that almost everybody is talking about it has me a little worried because this system its far from being cheap….🤷♂️🤔🙄
@@TariqAbdul12 Hi nope I bought a JBL refurbished 9.1 sound bar form Amazon at a very good price I saved almost $400.00 dollars from his retail price 😉. Honestly I am not very pleased about his sound at least to hear music compared to the other old school 15 years old complete Technics home theater that I also have in my family room, but for movies with the atmos special sounds effect it’s amazing. The bass is so powerful and has so much punch that the walls of my room and floor vibrates and my house is made of 100% concrete and I use it in setting number 3 only, but you can cranked even more if you want to since it has two more settings to increase even more the sound of the bass….😳😱.
I have received mine couple of days ago, I am not diggin it so far, either my living rool is too large or the sw3 is too weak also no sound coming from rear speakers when i bluetooth stream audio from my phone
Had the A9 for a couple of weeks and it was solid. I loved the stereo separation and the phantom center channel. I returned the A9 because the sub is just ok at lower volumes, the A9 has to be turned up a bit to show it's power, and the customization options are lacking.
I'm glad some people were able to get the theater system to work. When I had HT-A9 with SA-SW5 sub for 2 weeks I had very frequent audio drop outs. Numerous software and hardware resets worked for a week but then the drops became constant. But of the few times when there were no audio drops the sound was AMAZING. If they make a 2nd gen HT-A9 system I will definitely go all in again but based on my previous experience I will skip this current gen model even if wireless connectivity greatly improves and audio drop outs drastically reduced via firmware.
I just returned my ark with sub for the HTA9 . Thanks for taking the time out to help with my decision making.call Sony to find out about the drop outs. They stated with the new firmware update I should not have a problem. I planned to put two of the speakers on stands. Even without the Center channel the system shines. I also have the Sony A90j too use for a center channel if I want.
The most immersive wireless speakers at the moment! Sold my bose 900 setup for this and its worth it! I had more drop outs and problems in bose than this, tip for the dropout issue, connect directly the devices to hdmi in of the a9 receiver, just use an hdmi switch if you have more device, you will most likely experience drop out if you will rely from the tv , and also make sure the 4 speakers have a clear line of sight from the receiver for a solid connection!
I hope I don’t have dropouts I just picked this system up. I returned the ark with the GEN three sub. Once I found out Best Buy was getting them back in stock I jumped on it. I’m just concerned like I said with drop outs. I have an A90J Sony 65 inch to go along with this system. I’m not going to use the system as a Center channel.
Finally someone mentions the cutouts. I’ve tried everything and still getting them. There’s a workaround that takes a few minutes each time I watch (toggle RF off, then on), but it’s annoying. I think the HT-A9 is getting returned.
I think this is a problem with ARC in general. I've been having problems with any of the audio coming out from my TV to receiver(3.1). With a new cable, the cutouts are less frequent, but still there. So I use the channels that are run through my receiver(cable and Roku). Thought I would be able to eliminate the Roku and use the built in apps on my A80J, but I guess not.
@@pttthhh I think it’s because of the wireless speakers, with interference from the modem and WiFi devices in the room it causes a very short cutout. Sonos arc would not have that problem so I think I’m going to return and just go that route. The sound is not as good as this, but if I am not dealing with cutouts then it would be worth it.
@@BTheInstaller I’ve hard wired everything so nothing on WiFi, and the hub is sitting in the clear instead of in the cabinet. My issue is that my router is nearby. Nothing I can do about that unfortunately.
Hi, i also had it when I put the hub behind the TV. Plus I changed the Wi-Fi to 2.4ghz and boom no cutouts anymore. Had the same issue with Bose 300 sub and rears. With 2.4ghz I also managed to fix that issue. Maybe worth a try.
I have the HT-A9/SW5 and XR77A80J setup. My living room seating is 15x15 but opens up behind the seated position. I mounted the surrounds about 24" above ear level on the wall facing each other. The fronts are 3' off reach side, on shelves pointed in. The only fault in my room is it is vaulted from left to right which I think screws with the "height" of the sounds. Overall I am very pleased with the system. I've only had to rescan once for interference but have not had any drops. My dogs also run around the house looking for the "bird". I still need to find the right place for my sub though.
I think the A80J sounded just fine, very similar to the A90J.. remember you don't need a ton from it regarding mids or bass. So just as clean highs, should be good. Way better than the X95J or any led...
@@DanVanDamme Hi Dan, where do you order your ht a9, please keep me posted that how works for you, I'm planning to buy these two things the ht a9 and the a80j.
Excellent review. I'm amazed that the Sony HT-A9 performed well in that large room., especially with those high ceilings. The Sonos Arc didn't have chance in that large room.
I was considering selling my Sonos setup for this, but reading the disconnections... if rather not, the Sonos has given me zero issues and also sounds great...no Atmos for me but the rest sounds great.
Thnaks B! Once again another thorough review. I think "The Pup" test is a great indicator. If the Dog believes a bird or something is flying around the room somewhere its gotta be good.
Thanks man, great review! This is exactly the review that I've been searching for since I'm trying to decide between the HT-A9/sub and Sonos Arc/sub. The thing that has held me back from Sonos is the lack of rear up firing speakers. I'm glad you touched on the drop out issue because that's one of the only criticisms I've heard about the HT-A9 and I have been wondering if maybe keeping the control box exposed (not in a cabinet) would help. We use our 13'x13' den as our tv room so I'm hoping it won't be an issue in smaller spaces. I currently have two original Homepods set up as a stereo pair and they actually do a great job creating a phantom center channel...so I assume Sony's speakers will do even better.
Hey B! Love the review! I "think" you mentioned the room you are using the A9s has vaulted ceilings. Is that right? And the Atmos sound was still good? My A9 and SW5 sub arrives Monday. I have cathedral ceilings, and of course am concerned with Atmos, but will give it a shot anyway just to try them out. I picked up the 77 A80J a couple months ago - hope they work well together. Congrats on the new house!
I answered my own question. Tried the A9 and sub today in my house. Installed in an open floorplan room (14.5 x 19) with ~ 14ft cathedral ceilings. Hardwood floors. Wanted to like them and they were just ok - but not a close match to my 5.1 setup: Marantz 7008 paired with Mission Audio Sliver RX series speakers (RX6 floor standing bi-amped loudspeakers, RX Center, and RXFX for surrounds) and a single powered sub SVS PB1000. Returning them in the next couple days. Decided to upgrade the Marantz and add Atmos speakers the traditional way.
I'm impressed that the HT-A9 beats the Sonos, but the Sonos has a dual subwoofer option and Sony didn't or hasn't added that obvious option. I need dual subs! I hope Sony eventually adds that option for balanced bass across a room, but I won't hold my breath with the VRR ALLM crowd.
Great review! I'm stuck between this and the Samsung Q950A at the moment. Well, I say 'stuck' but the A9 hasn't even been officially released in Australia and the Q950 is a hell of a lot cheaper but still... the FOMO is real! 😂
I think many people would be completely satisfied with the Samsung. Not all rooms are as big and I was super happy with the Sonos anyways before. But it's another level of quality that I didn't expect.
@@BTheInstaller Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately my room might even be a bit bigger than yours... sitting is about 12ft from the TV which sucks a bit
I’m trying to decide between the Sonos Arc and the HT-A9. I really want a submerged surround sound experience in my family room but I also have out door speakers and may want to have everything uniform inside and out which means I’d have to go Sonos. The Sony system seems better based on all the reviews. I wish Sonos had up firing rear speakers to assist with the 360° experience.
I’m also hoping Sonos comes out with upward firing SL rear speakers. I haven’t heard they are, but some reviewers have postulated Sonos might since they try to be audio leaders. Similar to Klipsch having special upward firing rears only for the cinema 1200. In the meantime I’m very pleased with my Sonos Arc and sub. Yet to add additional Sonos speakers for other rooms.
Hey B. So the upward-firing Atmos speakers were still effective with your 25 ft ceiling? I was reading that those types of upwards only work well with standard height ceiling (10-15 ft). Thanks!
@@BTheInstaller thanks. So is the system still worth the $2500 all-in if planning to use it in a vaulted ceilings room? Or would you recommend something else for rooms with high ceilings? Thanks again for the review!
People might bawk at the price but that's where a good comparable a/v receiver is going to start...let alone speakers and sub(s). Seams like good quality for the money without going full on surround system.
Hi B, Great stuff as always! I realize by now this is an old review, but still love my HT-A9 & curious about your take as an installer how best to hide the AC power wires for the two front speakers I wish to wall-mount. In my current house I accomplished this since my TV wall backs to the garage, so I just made two small holes at the bottom of where the speakers wall-mount and passed the AC cable thru to outlets in the garage. We're moving to a new home where living room TV wall backs to the front wall of our master bedroom. I'd rather not have a white/painted cable cover showing in the family room under each front speaker. I might not be as opposed to it on our bedroom wall but might look awkward just with the wires poking thru to cable covers on that side at eye level in the bedroom. So curious what you'd commonly do in this scenario?
How’s it going, thanks for the review. I just purchased the speaker system and had a question. What did you do to mount the speakers without any wires showing? Sky help would be appreciated.
I was waiting for this review! I’ve had mine for about a week. While they sound amazing, I’d rather wait for a sale. Sound drops out often, and it’s not as stable a connection as Sonos. And I missed the simplicity of the S2 App, so I will be taking them back. But these two systems are neck and neck, but the A9 has a slight edge with Atmos rears and all audio codecs supported. They made the Bravia app so much more enjoyable
I just purchased these speakers I’m picking up the subwoofer on Monday. I also have the Sonos arc and subwoofer. I was thinking of returning the Sonos but I’m going to keep this also along with the Sony. My big concern is the sound drop off. I have a Sony a 90 J but I will not use that as my center channel I’d rather use the phantom channel that Sony produces. I’d have to agree though Sonos has the Best connectivity over any speaker company out there.
Excellent review B, no fluff just straight down to it which is what most of us want. I've been looking at the A-9 since announced and have been following a few forums. Whilst it's not available down here at the moment I do have concerns of drop outs or dealing with dead speakers on arrival especially considering the price. Although I'm happy to just continue to watch and decide later. In the meantime I'll just continue to enjoy our 77" A80J. Stay safe. Cheers!😉
Yeah the speakers on A80J not bad at all. Most sound bars are sufficient. It's definitely not acceptable to have drops on a brand new system but I didn't get them with the hub out
Dear B, thank you very much for the fantastic review. As your experience with soundbars, do you recommend Sonos set system Arc, Sub, and Pair of One SL (or Five) or Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5? In general as loud speakers and great Dolby Atmos and sound quality, which one do you recommend? Thank you very much and always keep it up!
Had mine for a couple weeks now with sw5 sub, all still in the box. Like the clean on wall look, can show how you managed the power cables for each speakers?
Hi, how HT-A9 will be if compared to Samsung HWQ950A. Because there are many reviews that Samsung HEQ950A is the best Soundbar overall soundwise. Please give your thoughts. Thanks.
This is great review and by far the best comparison I could see between Sony HT-A9 vs Sonos. I have 16 x 18 large room , 10 feel ceiling high and planning to install 4k short throw projector and good sound system. Do you think for room that size, Sony HT-A9 + SA SW5 would be a better choice vs buying Sonos arc system with subwoofer? Can you select individual channel, e.g. I want to use 2 speakers vs all 4 ? Thanks again.
Great Review 👍. My SA SW5 sub woofer connected to HT A9 is not responding to Bass. Can you suggest a fix for this. How far the SW5 needs to placed from the transmitter box of HTA9
Thanks for the excellent review but I do have a question.. Hi, how does the Sonos Arc with rears + 2 Gen 3 subwoofers compare to the entire Sony HT A-9 with a sub ? Which wins overall ?
Great review! I just got mine with a 83A90J Did you manage to take 4k 120hz from the A9 input or are you using the TV? My Xbox series x is not able to use all fancy features from the HDMI input on the A9 😔
Really enjoyed this review! Thank you! I have a vaulted ceiling approximately 9’-13’ high. DoThink the ht a9 atmos tech will be effective with this ceiling config?
Great review! I've been considering getting a sound system for my 11ftx11ft room and while a part of me doesn't wanna blow the bank on my first soundbar/sound system, the HT-A9's sound like a very tempting all-in-one package. On a side note, since you mentioned Value Electronics, have you considered reviewing the Hisense U9DG? There are so few reviews of it, but in my opinion it's the most interesting TV to come out this year and it really needs more reviews. Not only to see if it lives up to Hisense's claims, but also to give it more exposure.
5Ghz wifi interference is typically the main cause of audio dropouts when speakers and hub are properly placed and people are not accidently standing in the way. The A9 settings lets you switch to a different 5Ghz channel but it's a very opaque process and it doesn't stick to that channel so it's something that needs to be addressed on the firmware update. People living in 5Ghz congested areas or without full control of their routers might be out of luck. Others should definitely try turning off their router's 5Ghz or changing their router 5Ghz channel to 149 or higher to steer away from the A9's 5Ghz signal.
Great review but you left out the biggest factor. How does Dolby Atmos perform on the Sony A9 compared to Sonos ARC ? Another thing you forgot to mention, you can add second subwoofer to the Sonos ARC. I really love the fact Sony A9 has 4 upfiring speakers and I want to know how good is the Dolby Atmos/ DTS X perform on the Sony A9. I currently have the Sonos ARC with two subwoofers and Two rears. I’m extremely happy with the system but I wouldn’t mind upgrading to the Sony A9 just because the Sony has 4 Upfiring speakers. I’m curious which system performs better with Dolby Atmos movies?
I do think you will loose some bass (booth quality and quantity) if you go with the sony system. Even with one sonos sub i do believe the sonos is better. Sony do use many artificial tricks to make it seem better than it is. And if it is true that the sony sub vibrates the floor, thats not good as it will cause distortion. But i have heard that the atmos is slightly better on the sony
B this is a great review and the HT-A9 systems sound great, but what if we want to keep it more simple? I'd love to see you do a review of the new Sony HT-A7000 sound bar vs the Sonos Arc? Especially since we are leaning towards getting a new 65" Sony A80J OLED.
Aye B The Installer what do you think of buying a renewed tv from Amazon or should I not take the chance and just buy the tv brand new? The tv is the Sony A80J 77in
Hello. I'm thinking of buying the A9 soon. I watch movies on a projector. What do you think? Is it good for this too? And when you listen to music over bluetooth is it necessary to switch on the screen? Thank you and greetings from Switzerland.
I have the 77" A80J, HT-A9, and SW5 sub. I'm using the tv as the center. I'm noticing low vocal levels when watching movies unless I have voice mode turned On. But the biggest problem I have been having, is when using HBO Max and the surround system will consistently cut out. And then I'll need to power cycle the hub. Only for it to continue to happen. On forums, Ive seen other people have issues with using the Sony sound system and that specific app, not sure what the issue is. I would really appreciate any input on this, thank you! (Viewing distance is about 10 feet from tv. Speakers are all evenly spaced and mounted at right about head height. Looks very similar to your set up.) If I turn OFF the TV as the center channel, the vocals are much more audible, and the sound is more balanced between quiet and loud scenes. When the tv center channel was on, it would be some scenes with vocals I couldnt hear, so I would turn the volume up, then an action scene would happen and the noise was deafening, and I would have to turn it down. I can't get a good balance when I use the tv as center channel, but the audio sounds so much fuller when I do, so long as I can get the volume right and actually hear conversations. 🤦♂️ frustrating... 😭
Also I would really enjoy an in-depth video on your settings for this system - checking out different apps, going through the different modes, and things like Netflix calibrated. Thanks!!
Great review! I had just bought and installed the Sonos Arc, Sub and One SLs for the X95J I had on order when Sony announced the HT-A9 was coming. Thanks for rubbing salt in the wound. 😉 On the upside, I have expanded my Sonos ecosystem to other rooms in the house, and it works great.
How did you hide the power cables for your speakers? I think in another video you said you were adding a console and didnt need to hide the central (tv) cable but you clearly hid the appliance power cables for the speakers… Did you run an extension cord behind/up the wall, or run power along the baseboard?
I actually had this on order and canceled it. Concerns were some dead speakers, disconnects and even the big sony sub compatitble with it is said to be quite weak. If they can fix the first two issues I will still be excited to get it.
the dead speaker issue is real. Mine came with the front left dead. Called support and they had me ship it out for repair. The whole process took about 10 days. No issues since they repaired it.
Great vid. Quick question though, the Sony system that’s ~2500 beat the Sonos system that’s around ~ 1850…. My question is, what if you add that second sub to the Sonos setup. Does it make a difference? I currently have two subs + arc + one SL’s and I can say without a doubt the second sub makes a huge difference as long as the placement is in the right spot. Curious to see if a now 2500$ Sonos setup with two subs can compete with the Sony system. Thoughts?
Can you comment on the sound settings you used? I’m wondering if you used the default sound modes or tired the Dolby or DTS options. What did you think and what did you end up using?
It's different with different sources. Streaming is most Dolby atmos and when connected to a DVD player you can choose what's best. The system throws the sound nicely and it is a little different for each format. I have to adjust the mode, bass, surround levels as needed.
Awesome thanks for the response! I’m finding that the Sony sound mode cinema and the DTS mode are working best for streaming 4K movies. I just saw Dune with this system and I was blown away. Great system. Also, I’ve moved to using Ethernet cables for my tv and a9 so that there’s no wifi near the hub and now I don’t experience any cut outs
Good stuff! Glad to see another video from you brutha! I hadn’t seen one in a long time I was hoping everything is okay. I’m guessing your move + work took up a lot if your time?
Very good review very in depth one of the best reviews I've seen good job B. It's insane how many a90j tvs you have lol. I love it man seems like people are being to rough on the hta9 looks like it's a great little combo.
B The Installer , I have this system with sw5 too, I"m using it with a 65c9 oled in a medium sized room. I noticed you're using this unit in pretty big room I'm curious what are volume settings for for streaming movies, blurays, and what sub level do you use.
Great review! I have a question: does the speaker hub need to be in line of sight with the speakers? Can I place the hub in a different location? Like in an enclosed cabinet?
A bit surprised it worked well despite high vaulted ceilings, since the system works in part by bouncing sounds on the ceiling. Is the ceiling flat or irregular shaped? I asked Sony if the system would work with our vaulted and partly sloped ceiling, and they replied that the system wasn't tested for such conditions.
I am looking at the A9, but TOO MANY reviews say the constant sound drops are a nightmare. Did you experience this, did you use it for weeks to allow time for this issue to popup, or maybe you were lucky.
How good is the phantom center channel. Im considering this setup but seeing as how I have an LG C1, center channel is not an option. Im impressed with everything I've seen so far on this system (except for the price of course!) but Im just concerned that the lack of a real center channel will be noticeable.
Hmmmm wonder how the Enclave CineHome PRO WiSA system compares?? Wireless with 4 surround speakers, a center speaker, and sub, using the WiSA wireless hub included. Is also THX certified. $1599 MSRP. Not an Atmos system though. Just wondering ....... LOL Maybe a test item for another video???
Hey man... sorry this comment is so late... loved the video. I'm getting the system shipped tomorrow. Did you ever have it working with the main box behind the TV? I was hoping to mount it to the wall, was thinking behind the TV but above or below is doable if that would make a difference.
Hi, How did you install these speakers with out any wire outside.? Can you please share that video how you installed as well so that i can follow that.
Nice review. Thanks! I'm hoping for a nice Black Friday sale. One question I've wondered about. As most source is not Atmos, do the up firing speakers do nothing or is some sound processed for those speakers. Same question for the Arc and other atmos sound bars.
With non Atmos content, I always have the up firing speakers activated by enabling Immersive AE and the results have been very good. It's a subtle improvement.
Dear, Thank you very much for your review. Actually, I already buy the Sonos Arc, Sub Gen 3, and Pair One SL for my family as your recommendation last year. - Do you think Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5 have better sound than the Sonos set system we have? I think you have both experience systems between Sony and Sonos. - Do you think I have to sell the Sonos set surround system and buy Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5? We hope to hear the comparisons between these two systems Sonos and Sony. Thank you very much and we are looking forward to hear from you soon Sincerely,
Seen it mentioned in other reviews, buy some of those cheap rubber pucks people use for washing machines to absorb vibrations and mitigate the machine walking round.
can u exactly tell me if hta7000 with sw5 + rs5 or ht-a9 with sw5 sub is better. This will be much needed helpful for lots of people. Even me. I'm waiting to buy it asap.
What’s the best solution for multiple HDMI devices? I currently run everything into an AVR. I’m considering simplifying the home audio solution and eliminating the wiring. PS5, Apple TV and U-verse.
Hey B! Props to you and your excellent work! I do have one question though: I would like to plug this device to my frame TV and make it as discreet as possible The frame box that would connect through HDMlI to the Sony black box is not in my living room (when the speakers would be) but the sony box would be quite close to the speakers (I’d say around 2 meters) behind a very thin wall Do you think this could prevent the Sony box from working with the speakers while being connected in Bluetooth? Thanks B!
I have the Sony 65” A80j and the complete Sonos Arc system. Thinking of replacing it with this system. Just worried that if i decide to upgrade my TV in the future to a non Sony tv it wouldn’t be as good…
One thing I think some people forget, some of us live in an apartment, meaning subwoofers are a no go 😔 but we still want good sound quality! What I like about this system is I can get it now without a sub, and once we get into a house, we can just purchase the sub as an add on 😁
Absolutely. In an apt you may appreciate the bass better as well. It's just lose in the volume of that room without the sub.
I live in an apt and still have a sub
Honestly the sub isn't that boomy so I'd suggest just getting it now
I live in an apartment and have a sub. Just turn the gain down on it, and make sure that its not directly touching the carpet or hardwood. I suggest buying a subdude pad or something similar to take the vibrations from the sub so it doesnt disturb your neighbors. Hope this helps
I live in an apartment as well. I know it’s not ideal, but I flip my sub over on it’s side so it’s front firing rather than down. Cuts down on the boomy sound (which I hate) but still hits the lows.
I’ve had mine for several weeks now with the big sub and using an 83A90J as the Centre channel. It really is amazing. The depth and layering of the sound is fantastic. I’m hearing new details in the sound from movies I’ve seen many times before. I’ve had several systems before including the Sammy 950a and the JBL bar 9.1. The HT-A9 is vastly superior and in another league. (One of my sons now has the Sammy and my sis the JBL lol). As for sound drop outs, they happen for me 2-3 times a week. Easily fixed (settings/wireless speakers/ RF off and on). So no big deal. I’ve noticed they happen most often with the internal apps and I have not experienced any drop outs with discs from my Panny UB 820 connected directly to the HT-A9. Or from my Sony 800 (region free) disc player connected to the A9 via TV eARC. Going to try using an Apple 4K box for apps to see if this eliminates drop outs entirely. I’ll post an update if it helps.
Great info. Thanks.
Please do let us know if the Apple TV 4K eliminates dropouts!
Could you get an extra ht a9 satellite speaker and use that as the center so it matches the other speakers?
@@benjiebarker no you can’t … you can’t add an extra satellite or sub. The phantom centre is actually very good. When I first heard it at my dealer I was looking to see where the Centre channel was 😂. Using the A80/A90 as the centre is I think ideal as it lets you widen the soundstage by moving the fronts as wide apart as you like without worrying about the sweet spot of the phantom. I think the HT-A9 has been designed to fit best with Sony’s acoustic surface audio TV’s (A80/A90) as I heard that using it with the X95J it doesn’t match well.
@@kojak99100 Just want to add that the Sony A1 OLED also has acoustic surface audio, but it cannot be used as a center channel. You will need a newer model to use the acoustic surface audio as center channel.
Spot on review. I have this system and A80J, although never had speaker drop outs except with AirPlay from iPhone. Simple solution is to play music from TV apps rather than phone to resolve.
I ended up turning off the S Centre as it wasn’t as good an experience as just phantom centre from the HT-A9. I positioned the HT-A9 front speakers with slight “toe in” and have the tweeters at “ear height”. Viewing “eye height” is in line with 1/4 of TV height. Different folks will prefer different setups, but this works perfectly for our home.
On your wall, i really suggest you try dropping the height of speakers to optimise the tweeter level from sitting position.
Thanks for the feedback. And it is crazy That the phantom center speaker is better than actually using the TV for that. I heard other TH-camrs reiterate the same.
Ive got the HT-A9 with the SW3 sub. Its great. Along with my new A90J 83" and it makes up for cinemas being closed for 18 months, and i can't spend money on holidays.
Great. How large is the room? Just curious as I haven't seen the SA-SW3
@@BTheInstaller i sit about 9 feet from the TV. My living room is a rectangular room with the left side open to the dining table and kitchen, so i toe-in the speakers on the left. Ceiling normal 8 feet high, but dolby atmos height effects are still rare in movies.
@@gdmclean How far are the rears behind you? Or are they about inline with seating position?
Many thanks
@@PadawanLearner1970 my rears sit only 1 foot behind my couch.
@@BTheInstaller Hi first thanks for the great review about the Sony HT-A9 vs Sonos arc sorround systems comparison. I am just waiting to receive a JBL 9.1 sound bar to be used with my brand new Samsung AU 8000 smart tv. But after this review I am going to sell my JBL sound bar to buy rather the Sonos arc or this new Sony with 360 tecnology HT-A9 system. I already have a great complete Technics home theater system in my family room, its has already 15 year’s of use but still almost wants to break my house windows every time I used 👍😊💪. But now I want to install a new one this time for another quiet large room. My house is made of 100% concrete including the walls in case this info also some how influence in the acustic of the room. It has a rectangular shape and is 15 feets wide, 21 feets long with a 9 feet high ceiling. According to the opinion of others sound systems experts like you, most of them agreed that this rectangular shape room with his 9 feet high ceiling is perfect to extract the best sound effect of this new dolby atmos sorround sound. But now comes the one million dollar question. I am more a music guy than a movie with sound effects person, so taking this into consideration wich of these two premium sorround systems satisfies better my personal taste? The Sony HT-A9 with the SA-SW3 300 watts subwoofer or the Sonos arc with one or maybe two gen 3 subwoofers and a pair of SL ones sorround rear speakers? Thanks in advance for honest and expert opinion, I just want to make the right choice before I spend my hard earned cash in any of this two sorround systems. This to avoid the same mistake I already did after buying the JBL sound bar without doing a good research.
Thanks for the review. I have the system since a month. 2 weeks without a subwoofer and 2 weeks with the SW3. Tried the system with both subs. I have the SW3 with the sub on 9 out of 12 in setting and its more than enough for my taste. TV is Samsung Q9. I have mixed feelings. I had a hard wired Teufel 5.1 system before from 2008. Due to our new place i wanted to minimize the equipment and cabling. Pro is the setup and the fact that the hub is inside my shelf and it works (with some drop outs). Compared to my old system my finding is the following. With weak sources the old system was better. With Dolby or proper 5.1 stream the new system is better. The reason is the lack of audio settings. In my old system I was able to change the volume of each channel and the frequency of the sub which had a huge influence on the mids and thus the overall balance as well. I was able to tweak around until I found the sweet spot for my individual taste. The sound was more consistent on all sources. The new system is impressive with good quality sources. Very crisp and very punchy base with a much more immersive sound compared to my old system watching the ususal streaming on the Samsung apps (by the way TV is from 2018 and the embedded apps are NOT supporting Atmos - will need to work around probably with Apple TV 2021). What I dont like is the performance on normal TV audio. The presets are not precise enough. I have always the feeling that the voices are not present enough especially on low volume. A bit annoying. Hope that Sony will update the firmware with options to customize. Overall i will keep it. My advice: If you want to buy this setup for some home entertainment cinema experience then go for it. If you want to upgrade your TV speaker for daily routine then you should rethink your expectations. Of course its a huge upgrade but in this budget range you might find a setup which fits better to your needs.
If you starting again, what would you buy instead?
One of the best HT-A9 reviews. Thank you.
Yes!! I’ve been waiting for this review. Thanks for posting it and taking the time to make it great!!
My pleasure. Thanks
I’ve had the A9 for several weeks (with the SW5 sub.) it is a great system. Shout out to Value Electronics. I’d like to have more control over the EQ. More mids to tame the Sony smile EQ. Also have regular drop outs even with the hub in clear view and the speakers with good line of sight. Do frequent resets of RF. Sony MUST address this! Great review! Thanks.
Thanks for sharing, I'm trying to get my hands on a system too so it's nice to know what an average consumer thinks about the H9. It is by no means cheap, but after what I have heard, it is a good "budget" alternative to a full Atmos capable stand-alone system.
@@bomb_and_gouge I am also very interested to buy this new Sony HT-A9 sorround system for my house with the SW 3 sub, but the drop outs issues that almost everybody is talking about it has me a little worried because this system its far from being cheap….🤷♂️🤔🙄
@@raymondmorales8252 Hi, just curious if you were able to get your hands on an hta9?
@@TariqAbdul12 Hi nope I bought a JBL refurbished 9.1 sound bar form Amazon at a very good price I saved almost $400.00 dollars from his retail price 😉. Honestly I am not very pleased about his sound at least to hear music compared to the other old school 15 years old complete Technics home theater that I also have in my family room, but for movies with the atmos special sounds effect it’s amazing. The bass is so powerful and has so much punch that the walls of my room and floor vibrates and my house is made of 100% concrete and I use it in setting number 3 only, but you can cranked even more if you want to since it has two more settings to increase even more the sound of the bass….😳😱.
I have received mine couple of days ago, I am not diggin it so far, either my living rool is too large or the sw3 is too weak also no sound coming from rear speakers when i bluetooth stream audio from my phone
Had the A9 for a couple of weeks and it was solid. I loved the stereo separation and the phantom center channel. I returned the A9 because the sub is just ok at lower volumes, the A9 has to be turned up a bit to show it's power, and the customization options are lacking.
Out of curiosity, what did you end up buying instead?
@Steve I have a pair of powered speakers that I barely used so Im using those now for movies, music, and gaming.
I'm glad some people were able to get the theater system to work. When I had HT-A9 with SA-SW5 sub for 2 weeks I had very frequent audio drop outs. Numerous software and hardware resets worked for a week but then the drops became constant. But of the few times when there were no audio drops the sound was AMAZING. If they make a 2nd gen HT-A9 system I will definitely go all in again but based on my previous experience I will skip this current gen model even if wireless connectivity greatly improves and audio drop outs drastically reduced via firmware.
nah i just added external wifi antennas in that system and problem is gone.i also added hard wired sub
@@bigben9056 How did you add wifi antennas to it?
I just returned my ark with sub for the HTA9 . Thanks for taking the time out to help with my decision making.call Sony to find out about the drop outs. They stated with the new firmware update I should not have a problem. I planned to put two of the speakers on stands. Even without the Center channel the system shines. I also have the Sony A90j too use for a center channel if I want.
how is the experience so far ?
The most immersive wireless speakers at the moment! Sold my bose 900 setup for this and its worth it! I had more drop outs and problems in bose than this, tip for the dropout issue, connect directly the devices to hdmi in of the a9 receiver, just use an hdmi switch if you have more device, you will most likely experience drop out if you will rely from the tv , and also make sure the 4 speakers have a clear line of sight from the receiver for a solid connection!
I hope I don’t have dropouts I just picked this system up. I returned the ark with the GEN three sub. Once I found out Best Buy was getting them back in stock I jumped on it. I’m just concerned like I said with drop outs. I have an A90J Sony 65 inch to go along with this system. I’m not going to use the system as a Center channel.
yeah, i just finished Andrew's video and here i am watching yours.
Finally someone mentions the cutouts. I’ve tried everything and still getting them. There’s a workaround that takes a few minutes each time I watch (toggle RF off, then on), but it’s annoying. I think the HT-A9 is getting returned.
I think this is a problem with ARC in general. I've been having problems with any of the audio coming out from my TV to receiver(3.1). With a new cable, the cutouts are less frequent, but still there. So I use the channels that are run through my receiver(cable and Roku). Thought I would be able to eliminate the Roku and use the built in apps on my A80J, but I guess not.
@@pttthhh I think it’s because of the wireless speakers, with interference from the modem and WiFi devices in the room it causes a very short cutout. Sonos arc would not have that problem so I think I’m going to return and just go that route. The sound is not as good as this, but if I am not dealing with cutouts then it would be worth it.
We have a lot of wifi devices in the home and don't get the cutouts unless I hide the hub.
@@BTheInstaller I’ve hard wired everything so nothing on WiFi, and the hub is sitting in the clear instead of in the cabinet. My issue is that my router is nearby. Nothing I can do about that unfortunately.
Hi, i also had it when I put the hub behind the TV. Plus I changed the Wi-Fi to 2.4ghz and boom no cutouts anymore. Had the same issue with Bose 300 sub and rears. With 2.4ghz I also managed to fix that issue. Maybe worth a try.
I have the HT-A9/SW5 and XR77A80J setup. My living room seating is 15x15 but opens up behind the seated position. I mounted the surrounds about 24" above ear level on the wall facing each other. The fronts are 3' off reach side, on shelves pointed in. The only fault in my room is it is vaulted from left to right which I think screws with the "height" of the sounds. Overall I am very pleased with the system. I've only had to rescan once for interference but have not had any drops. My dogs also run around the house looking for the "bird". I still need to find the right place for my sub though.
excellent review thank for that, what do you think about Sony A80j as a center channel? do you think is going to give you good sound like that A90j.
I’m wondering as well. I just ordered the HT-A9 and apparently should arrive in a week. When I hook it up to my A80J, I’ll update my opinion here.
I think the A80J sounded just fine, very similar to the A90J.. remember you don't need a ton from it regarding mids or bass. So just as clean highs, should be good. Way better than the X95J or any led...
@@DanVanDamme Hi Dan, where do you order your ht a9, please keep me posted that how works for you, I'm planning to buy these two things the ht a9 and the a80j.
@@BTheInstaller thank you for your reply
@@saamejia I’m in Canada. Vision Electronics.
Great review. When you review the A95l could you try the A95l as a center channel? Im curious if the A95l sounds better as a center channel. Thanks.
Excellent review. I'm amazed that the Sony HT-A9 performed well in that large room., especially with those high ceilings. The Sonos Arc didn't have chance in that large room.
I was considering selling my Sonos setup for this, but reading the disconnections... if rather not, the Sonos has given me zero issues and also sounds great...no Atmos for me but the rest sounds great.
Thnaks B! Once again another thorough review. I think "The Pup" test is a great indicator. If the Dog believes a bird or something is flying around the room somewhere its gotta be good.
Thanks man, great review! This is exactly the review that I've been searching for since I'm trying to decide between the HT-A9/sub and Sonos Arc/sub. The thing that has held me back from Sonos is the lack of rear up firing speakers. I'm glad you touched on the drop out issue because that's one of the only criticisms I've heard about the HT-A9 and I have been wondering if maybe keeping the control box exposed (not in a cabinet) would help. We use our 13'x13' den as our tv room so I'm hoping it won't be an issue in smaller spaces. I currently have two original Homepods set up as a stereo pair and they actually do a great job creating a phantom center channel...so I assume Sony's speakers will do even better.
Hey B! Love the review! I "think" you mentioned the room you are using the A9s has vaulted ceilings. Is that right? And the Atmos sound was still good? My A9 and SW5 sub arrives Monday. I have cathedral ceilings, and of course am concerned with Atmos, but will give it a shot anyway just to try them out. I picked up the 77 A80J a couple months ago - hope they work well together. Congrats on the new house!
I answered my own question. Tried the A9 and sub today in my house. Installed in an open floorplan room (14.5 x 19) with ~ 14ft cathedral ceilings. Hardwood floors. Wanted to like them and they were just ok - but not a close match to my 5.1 setup: Marantz 7008 paired with Mission Audio Sliver RX series speakers (RX6 floor standing bi-amped loudspeakers, RX Center, and RXFX for surrounds) and a single powered sub SVS PB1000. Returning them in the next couple days. Decided to upgrade the Marantz and add Atmos speakers the traditional way.
I hope you love the system as much as our friend Fomo . Oh yeah Brian whisper status also loves this setup as well.
The wonders of proper speaker placement. Great Video B ✌🏻
I'm impressed that the HT-A9 beats the Sonos, but the Sonos has a dual subwoofer option and Sony didn't or hasn't added that obvious option. I need dual subs! I hope Sony eventually adds that option for balanced bass across a room, but I won't hold my breath with the VRR ALLM crowd.
Great review! I'm stuck between this and the Samsung Q950A at the moment. Well, I say 'stuck' but the A9 hasn't even been officially released in Australia and the Q950 is a hell of a lot cheaper but still... the FOMO is real! 😂
I think many people would be completely satisfied with the Samsung. Not all rooms are as big and I was super happy with the Sonos anyways before. But it's another level of quality that I didn't expect.
@@BTheInstaller Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately my room might even be a bit bigger than yours... sitting is about 12ft from the TV which sucks a bit
Get the Q950A. I have one and it is amazing.
I’m trying to decide between the Sonos Arc and the HT-A9. I really want a submerged surround sound experience in my family room but I also have out door speakers and may want to have everything uniform inside and out which means I’d have to go Sonos. The Sony system seems better based on all the reviews. I wish Sonos had up firing rear speakers to assist with the 360° experience.
Sonos system isn't bad at all and yes Sony doesn't have any products that are worthy of building around besides this.
I’m also hoping Sonos comes out with upward firing SL rear speakers. I haven’t heard they are, but some reviewers have postulated Sonos might since they try to be audio leaders. Similar to Klipsch having special upward firing rears only for the cinema 1200. In the meantime I’m very pleased with my Sonos Arc and sub. Yet to add additional Sonos speakers for other rooms.
Hey B. So the upward-firing Atmos speakers were still effective with your 25 ft ceiling? I was reading that those types of upwards only work well with standard height ceiling (10-15 ft). Thanks!
The atmos lacks with that ceiling yes. I'm going to take it into the office with fomos 83" a90j and recalibrate it there. Should be fun.
@@BTheInstaller thanks. So is the system still worth the $2500 all-in if planning to use it in a vaulted ceilings room? Or would you recommend something else for rooms with high ceilings? Thanks again for the review!
People might bawk at the price but that's where a good comparable a/v receiver is going to start...let alone speakers and sub(s). Seams like good quality for the money without going full on surround system.
Best Practical guide review yet! Thoughts on A9 vs Samsung q950 bar setup? These are the 2 I am considering 🤔👽
Hi B, Great stuff as always! I realize by now this is an old review, but still love my HT-A9 & curious about your take as an installer how best to hide the AC power wires for the two front speakers I wish to wall-mount. In my current house I accomplished this since my TV wall backs to the garage, so I just made two small holes at the bottom of where the speakers wall-mount and passed the AC cable thru to outlets in the garage. We're moving to a new home where living room TV wall backs to the front wall of our master bedroom. I'd rather not have a white/painted cable cover showing in the family room under each front speaker. I might not be as opposed to it on our bedroom wall but might look awkward just with the wires poking thru to cable covers on that side at eye level in the bedroom. So curious what you'd commonly do in this scenario?
"Maybe my tech skills are declining with age." Too real, bro. Too real... lol! Great video!
Like the way you mounted the speakers to the wall 👍
Hello B The Installer, could you give us some tips on how you prepared the AC power outlet in your walls for the HT-A9 speakers? Thank you!
How’s it going, thanks for the review. I just purchased the speaker system and had a question. What did you do to mount the speakers without any wires showing? Sky help would be appreciated.
I was waiting for this review! I’ve had mine for about a week. While they sound amazing, I’d rather wait for a sale. Sound drops out often, and it’s not as stable a connection as Sonos. And I missed the simplicity of the S2 App, so I will be taking them back. But these two systems are neck and neck, but the A9 has a slight edge with Atmos rears and all audio codecs supported. They made the Bravia app so much more enjoyable
Well it's good you can't really find it anywhere. Haha
I just purchased these speakers I’m picking up the subwoofer on Monday. I also have the Sonos arc and subwoofer. I was thinking of returning the Sonos but I’m going to keep this also along with the Sony. My big concern is the sound drop off. I have a Sony a 90 J but I will not use that as my center channel I’d rather use the phantom channel that Sony produces. I’d have to agree though Sonos has the Best connectivity over any speaker company out there.
Excellent review B, no fluff just straight down to it which is what most of us want. I've been looking at the A-9 since announced and have been following a few forums. Whilst it's not available down here at the moment I do have concerns of drop outs or dealing with dead speakers on arrival especially considering the price. Although I'm happy to just continue to watch and decide later. In the meantime I'll just continue to enjoy our 77" A80J. Stay safe. Cheers!😉
Yeah the speakers on A80J not bad at all. Most sound bars are sufficient. It's definitely not acceptable to have drops on a brand new system but I didn't get them with the hub out
But I'm going to watch Dune tonight and I'm pumped for sure. 😁😁😁💪💪💪
@@BTheInstaller Yep have read on AVS it sounds pretty sweet. Enjoy mate!
Dear B, thank you very much for the fantastic review. As your experience with soundbars, do you recommend Sonos set system Arc, Sub, and Pair of One SL (or Five) or Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5?
In general as loud speakers and great Dolby Atmos and sound quality, which one do you recommend?
Thank you very much and always keep it up!
My A90J needs this.
Had mine for a couple weeks now with sw5 sub, all still in the box. Like the clean on wall look, can show how you managed the power cables for each speakers?
Hi, how HT-A9 will be if compared to Samsung HWQ950A. Because there are many reviews that Samsung HEQ950A is the best Soundbar overall soundwise. Please give your thoughts. Thanks.
This is great review and by far the best comparison I could see between Sony HT-A9 vs Sonos. I have 16 x 18 large room , 10 feel ceiling high and planning to install 4k short throw projector and good sound system. Do you think for room that size, Sony HT-A9 + SA SW5 would be a better choice vs buying Sonos arc system with subwoofer? Can you select individual channel, e.g. I want to use 2 speakers vs all 4 ? Thanks again.
Hi bro, I have the same setup as yours. What did you endup with?
Great Review 👍. My SA SW5 sub woofer connected to HT A9 is not responding to Bass. Can you suggest a fix for this. How far the SW5 needs to placed from the transmitter box of HTA9
Thanks for the excellent review but I do have a question..
Hi, how does the Sonos Arc with rears + 2 Gen 3 subwoofers compare to the entire Sony HT A-9 with a sub ?
Which wins overall ?
Great review! I just got mine with a 83A90J
Did you manage to take 4k 120hz from the A9 input or are you using the TV? My Xbox series x is not able to use all fancy features from the HDMI input on the A9 😔
Really enjoyed this review! Thank you! I have a vaulted ceiling approximately 9’-13’ high. DoThink the ht a9 atmos tech will be effective with this ceiling config?
Great review! I've been considering getting a sound system for my 11ftx11ft room and while a part of me doesn't wanna blow the bank on my first soundbar/sound system, the HT-A9's sound like a very tempting all-in-one package. On a side note, since you mentioned Value Electronics, have you considered reviewing the Hisense U9DG? There are so few reviews of it, but in my opinion it's the most interesting TV to come out this year and it really needs more reviews. Not only to see if it lives up to Hisense's claims, but also to give it more exposure.
5Ghz wifi interference is typically the main cause of audio dropouts when speakers and hub are properly placed and people are not accidently standing in the way. The A9 settings lets you switch to a different 5Ghz channel but it's a very opaque process and it doesn't stick to that channel so it's something that needs to be addressed on the firmware update. People living in 5Ghz congested areas or without full control of their routers might be out of luck. Others should definitely try turning off their router's 5Ghz or changing their router 5Ghz channel to 149 or higher to steer away from the A9's 5Ghz signal.
Great idea. Thanks. (Now I just need to find A9s in stock somewhere...)
Great review but you left out the biggest factor. How does Dolby Atmos perform on the Sony A9 compared to Sonos ARC ? Another thing you forgot to mention, you can add second subwoofer to the Sonos ARC. I really love the fact Sony A9 has 4 upfiring speakers and I want to know how good is the Dolby Atmos/ DTS X perform on the Sony A9. I currently have the Sonos ARC with two subwoofers and Two rears. I’m extremely happy with the system but I wouldn’t mind upgrading to the Sony A9 just because the Sony has 4 Upfiring speakers. I’m curious which system performs better with Dolby Atmos movies?
I do think you will loose some bass (booth quality and quantity) if you go with the sony system. Even with one sonos sub i do believe the sonos is better. Sony do use many artificial tricks to make it seem better than it is. And if it is true that the sony sub vibrates the floor, thats not good as it will cause distortion. But i have heard that the atmos is slightly better on the sony
I hit 👍 the minute I saw the pug.
B this is a great review and the HT-A9 systems sound great, but what if we want to keep it more simple? I'd love to see you do a review of the new Sony HT-A7000 sound bar vs the Sonos Arc? Especially since we are leaning towards getting a new 65" Sony A80J OLED.
Aye B The Installer what do you think of buying a renewed tv from Amazon or should I not take the chance and just buy the tv brand new? The tv is the Sony A80J 77in
Hey how does listening to music sound? I am used to tower speaker when I am listening to music. Does stereo sound good?
Hello. I'm thinking of buying the A9 soon. I watch movies on a projector. What do you think? Is it good for this too? And when you listen to music over bluetooth is it necessary to switch on the screen? Thank you and greetings from Switzerland.
I'm waiting for these to be available. Out of stock everywhere.
I have the 77" A80J, HT-A9, and SW5 sub. I'm using the tv as the center. I'm noticing low vocal levels when watching movies unless I have voice mode turned On. But the biggest problem I have been having, is when using HBO Max and the surround system will consistently cut out. And then I'll need to power cycle the hub. Only for it to continue to happen. On forums, Ive seen other people have issues with using the Sony sound system and that specific app, not sure what the issue is. I would really appreciate any input on this, thank you!
(Viewing distance is about 10 feet from tv.
Speakers are all evenly spaced and mounted at right about head height. Looks very similar to your set up.)
If I turn OFF the TV as the center channel, the vocals are much more audible, and the sound is more balanced between quiet and loud scenes. When the tv center channel was on, it would be some scenes with vocals I couldnt hear, so I would turn the volume up, then an action scene would happen and the noise was deafening, and I would have to turn it down. I can't get a good balance when I use the tv as center channel, but the audio sounds so much fuller when I do, so long as I can get the volume right and actually hear conversations. 🤦♂️ frustrating... 😭
Also I would really enjoy an in-depth video on your settings for this system - checking out different apps, going through the different modes, and things like Netflix calibrated. Thanks!!
Are the front speakers parallel with the screen or toeing in to your listening position?
@@PadawanLearner1970 I've got them parallel. No adjustable wall mounts installed yet.
Great review! I had just bought and installed the Sonos Arc, Sub and One SLs for the X95J I had on order when Sony announced the HT-A9 was coming. Thanks for rubbing salt in the wound. 😉
On the upside, I have expanded my Sonos ecosystem to other rooms in the house, and it works great.
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How did you hide the power cables for your speakers? I think in another video you said you were adding a console and didnt need to hide the central (tv) cable but you clearly hid the appliance power cables for the speakers… Did you run an extension cord behind/up the wall, or run power along the baseboard?
I actually had this on order and canceled it. Concerns were some dead speakers, disconnects and even the big sony sub compatitble with it is said to be quite weak. If they can fix the first two issues I will still be excited to get it.
the dead speaker issue is real. Mine came with the front left dead. Called support and they had me ship it out for repair. The whole process took about 10 days. No issues since they repaired it.
Great vid. Quick question though, the Sony system that’s ~2500 beat the Sonos system that’s around ~ 1850…. My question is, what if you add that second sub to the Sonos setup. Does it make a difference? I currently have two subs + arc + one SL’s and I can say without a doubt the second sub makes a huge difference as long as the placement is in the right spot. Curious to see if a now 2500$ Sonos setup with two subs can compete with the Sony system. Thoughts?
It's not the bass that's lacking it's the sound quality. 5s or even 2 subs don't produce cleaner highs.
@@BTheInstaller ahh gotcha, figured I’d throw it out there. Might have to give them a shot if they restock for Black Friday/holiday sales.
Can you comment on the sound settings you used? I’m wondering if you used the default sound modes or tired the Dolby or DTS options. What did you think and what did you end up using?
It's different with different sources. Streaming is most Dolby atmos and when connected to a DVD player you can choose what's best. The system throws the sound nicely and it is a little different for each format. I have to adjust the mode, bass, surround levels as needed.
Awesome thanks for the response! I’m finding that the Sony sound mode cinema and the DTS mode are working best for streaming 4K movies. I just saw Dune with this system and I was blown away. Great system. Also, I’ve moved to using Ethernet cables for my tv and a9 so that there’s no wifi near the hub and now I don’t experience any cut outs
Good stuff! Glad to see another video from you brutha! I hadn’t seen one in a long time I was hoping everything is okay. I’m guessing your move + work took up a lot if your time?
Yes sir... back in biz
I got the Samsung Q950A 11.1.4 and I am blown away. It is probably the best soundbar on the market right now.
@B The Installer great review, Bro. May I ask what the exact screws you used to wall mount your A9 speakers?
Only review to watch great job
Very good review very in depth one of the best reviews I've seen good job B. It's insane how many a90j tvs you have lol. I love it man seems like people are being to rough on the hta9 looks like it's a great little combo.
It's fantastic for that price vs Sonos for sure.
B The Installer , I have this system with sw5 too, I"m using it with a 65c9 oled in a medium sized room. I noticed you're using this unit in pretty big room I'm curious what are volume settings for for streaming movies, blurays, and what sub level do you use.
Great review! I have a question: does the speaker hub need to be in line of sight with the speakers? Can I place the hub in a different location? Like in an enclosed cabinet?
A bit surprised it worked well despite high vaulted ceilings, since the system works in part by bouncing sounds on the ceiling. Is the ceiling flat or irregular shaped? I asked Sony if the system would work with our vaulted and partly sloped ceiling, and they replied that the system wasn't tested for such conditions.
It may not get as much overhead but it sounds amazing.
did you had some back surround experience when the spearkers are next to the couch?
I am looking at the A9, but TOO MANY reviews say the constant sound drops are a nightmare. Did you experience this, did you use it for weeks to allow time for this issue to popup, or maybe you were lucky.
These, compared to the HT-A7000 with the SA-RS5, any thoughts?
How good is the phantom center channel. Im considering this setup but seeing as how I have an LG C1, center channel is not an option. Im impressed with everything I've seen so far on this system (except for the price of course!) but Im just concerned that the lack of a real center channel will be noticeable.
B will you be keeping the speakers? I would be interested in getting them all. To go with my 77a80j.
Yes, this is new HT system. Love it. Wouldn't get it unless I had an OLED from Sony woth those speakers.
thanks for the good review. Can this system use/integrate 3rd party subwoofer - had a SVS micro in mind?
Hmmmm wonder how the Enclave CineHome PRO WiSA system compares?? Wireless with 4 surround speakers, a center speaker, and sub, using the WiSA wireless hub included. Is also THX certified. $1599 MSRP. Not an Atmos system though. Just wondering ....... LOL Maybe a test item for another video???
Hey man... sorry this comment is so late... loved the video. I'm getting the system shipped tomorrow. Did you ever have it working with the main box behind the TV? I was hoping to mount it to the wall, was thinking behind the TV but above or below is doable if that would make a difference.
Hi, How did you install these speakers with out any wire outside.? Can you please share that video how you installed as well so that i can follow that.
I saw you have a high ceiling. How is the Sony HT-A9 dolby atmos works in high ceiling?
Nice review. Thanks! I'm hoping for a nice Black Friday sale. One question I've wondered about. As most source is not Atmos, do the up firing speakers do nothing or is some sound processed for those speakers. Same question for the Arc and other atmos sound bars.
With non Atmos content, I always have the up firing speakers activated by enabling Immersive AE and the results have been very good. It's a subtle improvement.
B,
How do you mount these speakers on the wall and hide the power cords? Thank you.
Dear,
Thank you very much for your review. Actually, I already buy the Sonos Arc, Sub Gen 3, and Pair One SL for my family as your recommendation last year.
- Do you think Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5 have better sound than the Sonos set system we have? I think you have both experience systems between Sony and Sonos.
- Do you think I have to sell the Sonos set surround system and buy Sony HT-A9 with Sub SA-SW5?
We hope to hear the comparisons between these two systems Sonos and Sony.
Thank you very much and we are looking forward to hear from you soon
Sincerely,
Noone talks what setting should turn on in tv audio output settings and HT-A9 and what is best settings for both tv and a9...
I like having a 4 k receiver with the center channel, 2 front speakers and 2 surround speakers. This sounds better than the sound bars I’ve bought.
@@michael-4k4000 klipsch center right & left bookshelf speakers. Emotive Atmos front R&L speaker. Emotive B1 surround R& L back speakers.
Seen it mentioned in other reviews, buy some of those cheap rubber pucks people use for washing machines to absorb vibrations and mitigate the machine walking round.
How about using Sony z9j as center speaker ??
Cheers for your pug! We have 4 pugs ourselves and they are the best dogs!
Great review! Any chance of you uploading a video on how you wall mounted these and hooked them up to power? Thanks.
Looks like there are wall cutouts below each front speakers that he used to run the AC cables.
Would you recommend for a projector system?
This is my next system in Dec for my bday!!
I have arc Sonos sub and 2sl s - is it worth trading in …. I will probably loose a fair bit on the Sonos
I’m running the a7000 with the sw5 and it punches very hard
can u exactly tell me if
hta7000 with sw5 + rs5 or ht-a9 with sw5 sub is better.
This will be much needed helpful for lots of people.
Even me. I'm waiting to buy it asap.
Could you please review the Bose Soundbar 900 with the 700sub and 700 Surround Speakers.
What would be better for the ps5 with an A90J. The sony A9 with the SW5 or a high end gaming headset?
What’s the best solution for multiple HDMI devices? I currently run everything into an AVR. I’m considering simplifying the home audio solution and eliminating the wiring. PS5, Apple TV and U-verse.
Hey B! Props to you and your excellent work!
I do have one question though: I would like to plug this device to my frame TV and make it as discreet as possible
The frame box that would connect through HDMlI to the Sony black box is not in my living room (when the speakers would be) but the sony box would be quite close to the speakers (I’d say around 2 meters) behind a very thin wall
Do you think this could prevent the Sony box from working with the speakers while being connected in Bluetooth?
Thanks B!
Nice video B thanks. Btw how is that Sony A90J 83 inch tv STILL look small on your wall haha. Your living room really is massive..
I have the Sony 65” A80j and the complete Sonos Arc system. Thinking of replacing it with this system. Just worried that if i decide to upgrade my TV in the future to a non Sony tv it wouldn’t be as good…
Are they wireless or did you hide wires behind wall