Towing a 43' Fifth Wheel With a GAS Truck? Ford 7.3L Gas Engine

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  • Lots of people ask if we're happy towing our 15,000lbs fifth wheel with a gas truck. After 10,000 miles of towing, Jason shares his thoughts in this video.
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  • @RVMiles
    @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Glad to see you here and welcome to another RV life focused video. Many of you have asked and after almost six months of towing and a year of ownership, Jason is ready to share some of his thoughts on towing a fifth wheel with a gas engine. We'd love to hear your thoughts on the topic covered. Please remember to keep comments kind and on point - no need for truck brand wars. lol. Comments are moderated by both Jason and Abby. If you find value in this video, we hope you'll take a moment to like, subscribe and share. Thanks! - Jason and Abby

    • @Back_door_bandit_98
      @Back_door_bandit_98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m enjoying these new gas engines in the heavy duty trucks I just got a 2020 Silverado 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser currently have 42k miles regularly pulling a 18k pound gooseneck truck handles it well I wish it had the 4:10 gears like my old 2500 but besides that it’s a nice truck and maintenance free compared to a diesel.

    • @opossom1968
      @opossom1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 7.3 is designed to be boosted. You can gain efficiency and torque. A turbo is perfect for towing and turbos love displacement. The 7.3 will be even better boosted with 1 or 2 turbos. Savings in fuel alone will pay for the cost.
      I would guess a clean install professionally done to be under 10k, depending on one or twin turbo. 7k with just one.

    • @opossom1968
      @opossom1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jesus has given you all. Repent or die. does Jesus want a boosted 7.3 as well. I know a good builder for him. It would be awesome racing Jesus, long as he did not cheat and bless the engine, we all would have good time. Dude Jesus changed the water to wine! It would be awesome if Jesus turned the water to E85.
      Alcohol for all. AMEN.

    • @scottw2157
      @scottw2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great review. I have a 1999 7.3 diesel. Thinking, once fuel prices drop maybe upgrading to the new tremor with the 7.3. Spot on with the torque #'s my 1999 is rated at 500lbft.

    • @nhlcfl7733
      @nhlcfl7733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Back_door_bandit_98 Appreciate your comment. I love my 6.6L gas engine as well in my 2500HD LT Chevy.

  • @MrNismopro
    @MrNismopro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +469

    This guy definitely has a great way of delivering all the information needed in a short video. This was the best description of how the truck tows a 15k lbs. load by far.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Appreciate the feedback, Rick!

    • @landahoy5217
      @landahoy5217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes sir! If you got bored listening then you need to get your head examined.

    • @Excellencengrace
      @Excellencengrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to get my head examined most likely anyways. I think most people need to carry around an impact and consistently keep up on torquing loose screws on everyone’s head that they come in contact with as well as their own.
      Proverbs 27:17 brethren sharpen brethren

    • @HanginInSF
      @HanginInSF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes you should keep doing this you are good at it!

    • @TheAnonymous1one
      @TheAnonymous1one 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree great delivery. Wish I could do the same lol.

  • @bobnelson2828
    @bobnelson2828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    7.3 with 4.30's here. Just completed a 5,000 mile towing trip pulling an 11.5K fifth wheel. In wind across the plains states and through the mountains; including an 11,000 foot pass. The 7.3 handling everything we threw at it. And the trip average was 9.1 MPG!

    • @Rick_With_No_Filter
      @Rick_With_No_Filter ปีที่แล้ว

      Curious, at what highway speed did you get that mpg?
      My 6.2L gasser with 3.73 gears can only get 9.2 mpg pulling 9k bumper pull camper at 60mph
      Drops to 7mpg at 70mph.
      Wind drag kills mileage.

    • @bobnelson2828
      @bobnelson2828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rick_With_No_Filter 65 mph unless posted for less.

    • @iwanaGoFast2010
      @iwanaGoFast2010 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it ain’t the power stroke you got nothing bro. 7.3 is crap

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iwanaGoFast2010Yet here you were.

  • @djcarkhuff
    @djcarkhuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I stumbled on this video by accident and all I can say is what a refreshing, concise, and honest review of the towing capability of the 7.3. Far too many videos prattle on or are just too click-baity. Great work!

  • @SuperSnakePlissken
    @SuperSnakePlissken ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Great video. I can tell you as a fleet manager we are shifting away from diesel to the 7.3 L V8 gas because of the long-term repair costs. This engine is so efficient and powerful for what it is that it makes having a diesel truck under 20,000 pounds of towing mute. For anything above that of course you’re gonna have to have a duely diesel but most things, you tow are between 10,000 pounds and 18,000 pounds. Highly recommend this motor we have 36 of them now and they have been incredibly reliable.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for sharing

    • @sabertoothduck
      @sabertoothduck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No rocket arm delaminating issue at 40k?

    • @SuperSnakePlissken
      @SuperSnakePlissken ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sabertoothduck Not a one. Tell me about this issue if you don't mind? I want to do some research in anticipation of problems. We have 36 trucks with six F-350's more on order.

    • @MikeS77577
      @MikeS77577 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are videos of the Cam shaft and hydraulic lifters delaminating and pitted on the 7.3 gas, not 7.3 diesel.....

    • @SuperSnakePlissken
      @SuperSnakePlissken ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MikeS77577 Appreciate the warning and I have sense seen a few videos on it. Gratefully, we have not had one issue with our 7.3's so far. I have put out a bulletin though on it and we are going to be watching for it. Thanks.
      By the way, we have nine 7.3's now with over 200,000 miles and no issues. We have 17 of them with over 150,000 miles with no issues, and the rest are under that mileage. We will be keeping each truck until 300,000 miles and then selling it. We will see what happens.

  • @alancece
    @alancece 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I recently got a 2022 F350 dually with the 7.3L and the 4.30 gears and am towing a 41’ Grand Design Solitude with a 16,800lb GVWR (haven’t been to the scales yet). It was definitely uncomfortable at first hitting those high RPM’s, but after more research and understanding that’s where the power curve is, it doesn’t disappoint. It has plenty of power and tows amazingly well!

    • @robertsabella7298
      @robertsabella7298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking about the same truck you have. I'm glad I stumbled onto your review of your truck because that's the same configuration I was going to order. Its a 23 but that doesn't matter I would appreciate any additional information you may have on the truck. Ty

    • @alancece
      @alancece ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@robertsabella7298 sure! I’ve now put over 9,000 towing miles in the first year. I’ve driven it from Georgia to the Grand Canyon and back and multiple trips through the Appalachian mountains as well as to Myrtle Beach and Florida multiple times. Gas mileage isn’t amazing… I’m getting on average 6-7mpg depending on headwinds and speed traveled. I try to stay between 65-70mph. A few trips I did 70-75 and I was definitely in the lower 6’s for gas mileage. It’s obviously challenging pulling a 41’ into a regular gas station, but with a 48 gallon tank we find we can drive up to 4 hours between stops, which is about all the kids and myself can take before needing a break. My wife always uses aerial view on google maps to find a big enough gas station to pull into and it’s usually not a problem unless they are very busy, then you have to be extremely patient.
      As for power, there’s only been one time that I pushed the pedal all the way down and realized, oops, that’s all she’s got, but it wasn’t really bad thing and she was able to keep accelerating. I was just trying to keep up with a friend towing a 18’ travel trailer with a bigger truck, that just wasn’t happening! I’ve towed up and down 6-8% mountain grades and it does fine. Again, those RPM’s get pretty high, but that’s where this engine performs, so you just get used to it.
      Let me know if you have any specific questions.

    • @donclark5677
      @donclark5677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would you tow a19,000lb camper with your dually and the 7.3?

    • @alancece
      @alancece 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@donclark5677 it depends on where and how often you are towing. 19K lbs is getting close to the max towing capacity of the truck and really limiting payload overall. If it’s mostly flat towing and not often I’m sure it would be ok, but if you are towing through mountains and often you might want to upgrade.

    • @donclark5677
      @donclark5677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So, I guess diesel is my only option.

  • @glennlacewell5766
    @glennlacewell5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    40 plus years ago we pulled trailers and boats nearly as big and as heavy as today with Ford and Chevy and Dodge Trucks with gas engine's , V-8's that displaced 350 , 360 , 400 cubes ( no turbo's or supercharges or fuel injection ) . We may not have gone up all the hills as fast and we went down hills in lower gears and changed brake pads more often but the Trucks did the jobs and did them well. I now drive a 6.7 ford diesel with more power than I need . I probable would have saved the extra 10000 bucks and gone gas if the 7.3 had been a option when I bought mine . A 7.3 ford or 6.6 chevy or even a ram heavy duty truck with a gas engine is light years ahead of anything we had in bygone days . I'm not sure I will ever save enough on fuel to get the extra 10000 for diesel back.

    • @herb7877
      @herb7877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you loud & clear. I bought a 1972 f250 new. Had a 360” which was a boat anchor. Not sure it had even 200hp and under not much more torque. Pulled boat and a full slide in camper. Numerous rigs between but My new f350, 7.3 l is a gigantic improvement.

    • @joshuaphillips1867
      @joshuaphillips1867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Nowadays its just a pissing contest, has nothing to do with the trucks themselves...

    • @brianpatrick8787
      @brianpatrick8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We towed this weights with the old 400 and 460 no problem. But we did with the 4 and 5 speed Manuals . 410 and 455 axles matched much shorter tires than put on trucks today. The gutless days started when mfg put tall tires and cut out the higher ratio axles on the gas engines. Why do this SALEs of diesel engines. From the get go they were still putting 235_85_16 on the duelly diesel with 410 or 455 axles for years after the gas truck had taller 17 and 18 inch wheels with 355 and 375 axles with maybe a 410 if you ordered.

    • @boduke9428
      @boduke9428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dad delivered mobile homes from the factories to lots for years using an International tote truck with a gas engine, 5 speed trans and 2 speed rear. It'd pull 14x70 homes without issue. I've still got parts and pieces of trucks scattered around the farm.

    • @adamshaw8214
      @adamshaw8214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diesel is 50% more expensive per gallon than gas so your not saving shit on fuel.

  • @occasionalrv
    @occasionalrv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    We have a 2021 F250 with the 7.3 and ten speed transmission and love it. We don’t tow full time but when we do we have no issues. We’re always well under weight and towing maximums. The engine is an absolute beast.

  • @terrysoule8441
    @terrysoule8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I have the same truck, with Tremor package albeit a Platinum trim. I have a 12k fifth wheel and my experience mirrors yours. What I did concerning the gas problem was to install a 42 gal transfer tank in the bed. Not only does it double the range, but provides a lot more flexibility in choosing gas stations and when to refill. When I have to make a potty stop for the smaller bladders in the family, I take the opportunity to refill the main tank and we're off. Also a 60 gal replacement tank is being made and should be available fairly soon.

    • @hunterlogan2913
      @hunterlogan2913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      great additional info!

    • @davidclemens1578
      @davidclemens1578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BlackLung87 yes that is the rewards of working for it.

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much you pay for that?

    • @terrysoule8441
      @terrysoule8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TH-camuser1aa if you are asking about the transfer tank, about $880 for the whole setup including the pump, filter and nozzle.

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrysoule8441 more like the truck

  • @MrFriday83
    @MrFriday83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Getting 8mpg with that trailer with gas is very impressive, when I first clicked I was thinking you were gonna be getting 4, with other major items on the diesel like dpf system and filters kinda prices retail out of the market. Pretty cool to see gas is working for you

    • @leftycosta1899
      @leftycosta1899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love a head to head MPG comparison in towing between 7.3 vs 6.7 diesel. I know not towing, there is a 3-4 MPG difference.

    • @matthewpeterson3329
      @matthewpeterson3329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. I owned a 2002 F-350 with the 7.3 powerstroke, and it was a wonderful tow vehicle, but it never got better than 11.5 mpg unladen. With a trailer weighing 1k lbs or 15k lbs, it got 9 mpg... it's like it knew I was towing and got thirsty regardless of weight. These days, aside from the $10k premium you pay for a diesel, the maintenance costs are significantly higher than a gasser. Oil changes are twice as much, multiple fuel filters that MUST be changed regularly, DEF cost, and god help you if you get some contaminated diesel that hurts your fuel rails... that will cost you about $10 to fix (ask the Ram owners about it). I have been teetering back and forth for a few years, but I think a gas truck is in my future. The savings buys a hell of a lot of gas over the life of the truck.

    • @MrFriday83
      @MrFriday83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One question are you retail or do commercial use? Here is another way of thinking 10mpg Diesel@$5 , Gas 8mpg @$4 50,000 miles a year. Both are the same cost $25,000 a year in fuel. If you don't NEED the power and retail it's looking like gas. After writing this gas is looking better

    • @danielsnook5029
      @danielsnook5029 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't know if that's on the flats or in hills/mountains.

    • @MrFriday83
      @MrFriday83 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielsnook5029 His numbers are optimistic, the only scenario I see actually getting those numbers is downhill 😆

  • @fakepixilord
    @fakepixilord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guy from germany here. Wow these mileage numbers are impressive. Here in germany we call a car is efficient when it gets 40MPG, we're complaining when it gets under 30MPG. It is a whole other world

    • @peterbyrne4605
      @peterbyrne4605 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kmh is way different from mph just to let you know

  • @brianroth7852
    @brianroth7852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jason,. Currently have a Dodge gasser and pull a Layton 5th wheel. Total combined weight truck and trailer is just a hair under 18,000.
    Getting ready to retire. We have picked out our new coach. A Grand Design Momentum 398 M-R. Empty weight is 16,000lbs loaded we are at 21,000lbs. So we looked a 450 range of pick up trucks. Price tag over $90,000.
    We live on a beer pocket book but would love champagne once in a while. After much dilibration we went a complete different direction.
    We bought a HDT (2013 VOLVO 780) It has 500k for milage. Automatic 12 speed transmission. It develops over 1600lbs of torque for towing. Double bunk. Lower bunk makes in to a dinette or bunk. Has a fridge, and microwave plus coffee maker in the cab. Plus a 26" tv for the wife and grandbabies.
    I have had all six of our grandkids in the cab and the wife can still get up and move around or lay down. And feed lunch with out stopping.
    Total cost for the truck was $24,000. We put a deck on it $3000. To haul our Smart Car and the 5th wheel package $4200. So we are totally invested $31,000. As for fuel milage we get 9.8gpm and I have 300 gallons of fuel.
    Buy the way we don't even feel the trailer behind us going up hill or down.
    Recommend some other people investigate our setup.
    Safe travels and roads. Brian and Cindy "xtreambydesign with passion"

  • @southerncross3638
    @southerncross3638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have a 2001 Ford Excursion with a 6.8 V10, we've been towing 6 Horses in a trailer for 12 years , no problem, 17 miles per gallon, We live in Colorado.

  • @michelelarson3944
    @michelelarson3944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    We installed an aftermarket Titan 60 gallon fuel tank. It fits in exact same spot at original tank. Only difference is it sets 2-1/2” lower than original. Best mod we made. Never have to stop for fuel when traveling. Get to our destination drop off 5th wheel. Then go fuel up at station with best Pricing and no hassle or worries of getting in/out.

    • @rh-et2vv
      @rh-et2vv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Titan makes a SuperDuty tank for gasoline?

    • @intensepisgahbiker
      @intensepisgahbiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rh-et2vv I think they're working on a replacement tank.

    • @edhines4864
      @edhines4864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard that they are working on one. I will look for the info.

    • @gamebredduramax71
      @gamebredduramax71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rh-et2vv yes they do

    • @yeahok115sure
      @yeahok115sure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you calculate the loss of pay load with your bigger tank? Doesn’t that bigger tank defeat the purpose of the gas payload?

  • @JohnnyC10071959
    @JohnnyC10071959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am impressed with Ford's gasoline engine. I towed with gasoline many years ago and swore it off forever. Going up western state passes my Chevy 3500 sounded like it would explode before we go to the top and it would not hold speed towing about 16000 pounds. Money is important for diesel, but I will say that (from experience) Ford's diesel 6.7L Power Stroke is a monster. My F450 dually has towed just over 32,000 pounds (construction equipment) from Los Angeles to south Denver, CO, - across two major passes (over 10,000 feet) w/o breaking a sweat.
    You got a solution that worked for you and saved a ton of money (upfront) - a nice job. Your video is well done and presents information that is factual and concise - really nice.

  • @Misterfairweather
    @Misterfairweather 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Glad to hear the review, I've been waiting to hear from folks putting miles on them to see how the experience is. I don't tow far enough to justify the added expense and upkeep of the diesel but I do need the payload of the larger trucks. I'm glad to hear this 7.3 is working well to fill that gap.

  • @brianpounds2657
    @brianpounds2657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have the same truck setup with a 31’, 37’ tip to tail, travel trailer that GVW is 10,000 pounds and with the 7.3l it’s a dream. No issues at all. Love the truck.

    • @HVTMuddvain
      @HVTMuddvain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats like the perfect truck to trailer weight sweet spot!👍

  • @mrme2704
    @mrme2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Transfer flow is supposedly releasing a 58 gallon for the tremor 250/350 gas in April, keep an eye open for it. It's waiting on the carb approval supposedly due in April.

    • @rver99
      @rver99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome. I hope they do. I've never understood why they have one for the f150 and Tundra but not the gas super duty. Hopefully the 7.3 popularity will encourage them to do so.

    • @johncuervo3019
      @johncuervo3019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carb approval?

    • @mrme2704
      @mrme2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johncuervo3019 California approval for emissions and stupidity

  • @eddiedoherty2349
    @eddiedoherty2349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The gas fill up issue is the same for Class A gassers. I am envious when I see a diesel in the truck pull through. Every fill up must be thought out and planned ahead. Bucees are a dream, so much room and so many pumps.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gotta love a Bucees

    • @billdarrah5030
      @billdarrah5030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed--especially with a toad! When on the road, I always hope for Flying J or Maverick RV lanes. I have dropped the toad for Costco prices then reattached after a fill up.

    • @DLTJR1959
      @DLTJR1959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We just purchased our first pusher and I never really gave much thought to the class A gas fuel issue until this Christmas when camping in Ft. Pierce. Had a new Newmar class A parked beside us. Was talking to the owner and told him what a nice unit he had. He told me filing up can be a pain in the rear. Never thought of that. We have to plan our fuel purchases also. Guess it's part of the deal.

    • @sfcjones2590
      @sfcjones2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't forget about the bucees nuggets...

    • @DillonPrecisionFan
      @DillonPrecisionFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billdarrah5030 some of the newer Valero/Toot'n Totum stations in Texas have separate RV lanes with gasoline.

  • @cjc1103
    @cjc1103 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Diesel's have a lot of complicated emissions gear, require DEF, and are very expensive to maintain. The 7.3L gas engine shold be a good alternative for a lot of RV'ers.

  • @kahuna1247
    @kahuna1247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well what ya know... a responsible RV owner in the video. This was refreshing to watch!

  • @Bigfish11
    @Bigfish11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I pulled a 36 foot travel trailer for a long time with my gas 6.8 v10 superduty. Switching to diesel made life so much easier. I would never go back.

  • @angelusbrick917
    @angelusbrick917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We have same truck with 14,000 lb. 5th wheel. Installed transflow 50 gallon transfer tank in the bed. Best mod we have done. NO more gas station issues! Drive day is great!

    • @dr.blast__2713
      @dr.blast__2713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did u do that?

    • @angelusbrick917
      @angelusbrick917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.blast__2713 it fits in front of my 5th wheel hitch. Pump is on the same side as my gas tank cap.

  • @danielsnook5029
    @danielsnook5029 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is an auxillary fuel tank solution that fits where the truck spare tire resides. It's expensive and you have to start carrying the spare in the bed or mount it on 5th wheel bumper.

  • @user-ux4iu7us7p
    @user-ux4iu7us7p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best truck review of a truck I’ve viewed. It’s to the point, well delivered, and hits the key points.

  • @Frankwrite
    @Frankwrite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also have the 7.3 liter gas engine in my 2020 F350 LTV dually with crew cab, long bed, 4WD, and 4.30 rear end ratio. I carry a Northern Lite 10-2 slide-in truck camper, which weighs a bit over 3200 pounds dry. In my pre-purchase research, I came across more than one online source saying that Ford targeted fleet buyers with the 7.3. They say the more simple push-rod engine tied to the great (IMO) 10-speed transmission will give the truck a very long life. We'll see. I love the flat torque curve, in any case. BTW, my mileage is similar to yours: 8 mpg when driving >65 mph; 11 mpg when driving

  • @randys3010
    @randys3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Good information and very well explained. Glad to hear that you are happy with the 7.3. I think that the complexity of modern diesel engines strongly reduces their desirability and it is good to have excellent gasoline alternatives. I've been thinking that if I were in the market for such a vehicle that the big gasser would be the logical choice.

    • @Paiadakine
      @Paiadakine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      With all the smog requirements for a diesel and the high maintenance cost it’s not worth it. With the new transmissions a gas truck with all the gearing can put down lots of torque.

  • @wannastayfree8115
    @wannastayfree8115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We purchased a’23 Ford 7.3 single axle. Pull a 40’ 5th wheel that weighs in at 14k. Truck pulls like a dream over my old Ford V10 AND I actually get to pass-by a few gas stations that the V10 would have forced us to stop. So far so good.

  • @Novagunner
    @Novagunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a believer in letting creators know they made a good video,
    This is a great video. Short, to the point and informative..and clear. Thanks for taking the time to make this!

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really, truly appreciate that! Thank you!

  • @mikewest712
    @mikewest712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can't believe these manufacturers offer 1 tons without a long bed. They pull better, Payload hauls better, bigger tanks can haul plywood and 8 foot boards, and they look to scale. Long live the long bed.

    • @mattlane2282
      @mattlane2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why this guy wanted single rear wheels with a 43 foot trailer LOL and a short wheelbase...
      like...
      a fool for every seat.

  • @jamesofstedahl9802
    @jamesofstedahl9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a 21 tremor with the 7.3. I pull a fifth wheel also and when loaded I'm right at about 15,000#. I have to say with all that I have watched and listened to your comments are right on par with what I experience. my feeling is if you take care of this motor it will last a good amount of milage, I believe that you should get your moneys worth and then some. its also cheaper to replace this motor than even a re-build on a diesel, keep that in mind.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on!

    • @StarPartners
      @StarPartners 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IF .... If you properly Care for a dsl... They’ll generally last decades !!! I’ve got a ’93 Mack Bulldog semi with 985K miles and the engine/trans are still strong without a major rebuild....

    • @carlgshock
      @carlgshock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@StarPartners your 93 mack is not a light duty diesel and it also isn't full of sensors and exhaust filters and does not require DEF.

    • @ig3024
      @ig3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get the 250 or 350?

  • @charlesperry1051
    @charlesperry1051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I currently tow with a 2011 F250 with the 6.7L diesel. I am beginning the process of researching what truck I will replace it with. My 5th wheel is 12k lbs. The 7.3 is looking awfully good. I also tow a 10k lb equipment trailer. I am at that point with my 6.7L that I am doing expensive emissions related repairs. The EPA has ruined diesel engines. I no longer use my truck as a daily driver, so towing duty only. That will definitely reduce the number of miles I drive it per year.

  • @toenails.
    @toenails. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My friend went broke repairing his Diesel truck. At 49 years old he had to borrow money from his parents to cover the massively expensive repairs he had to make on his Diesel truck. Grreat when their running but when they break you better have unlimited funds and really deep pockets.

  • @Icutmetal
    @Icutmetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I knew the 7.3L was coming when I bought my 2018 Duramax (which I love overall) and was interested right from the start, but lacked the patience to wait. When it comes time to replace mine, I’ll definitely consider a 7.3 again. The diesel can pull…and pull…and pull, rarely downshifting with a reasonable load, but beyond that I am convinced that if you can get over the diesel bravado, it’s a wash anymore.

    • @ivandrago1133
      @ivandrago1133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your comment made me legitimately laugh out loud.
      My wife and I have a dodge diesels as our daily’s and usually hook one up to a 42’ toy hauler when we head out for the weekend or for a week with the kids. I wouldn’t even consider trading one in on a gas truck. I don’t have anything against gassers, but I’m not going to find a gasser with over 1,075 lb/ft torque.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivandrago1133Thanks for letting me know.

  • @DavidJDeden
    @DavidJDeden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Same setup (minus tremor) 16klbs loaded on my GD 3740BH. 9200ft over mountain passes, cross country a couple times. Put 45,000 miles on it. Doing great!
    edit: I also regret not going long bed

    • @brentnutter1510
      @brentnutter1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because of trailer clearance, style of hitch or something else? Just curious.

    • @davidcaskey4669
      @davidcaskey4669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been looking at this motor since wanted to give them a couple of years I think a 350 single wheel with a 3.73 or a lower gear would work best for me. I'd love to know what gears some people are running. And yes 8ft bed crew cab would be a must however saw a 8ft bed extended cab the other day that looked sharp

    • @garyschulte859
      @garyschulte859 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidcaskey4669 I can't yet give you the towing mpg, but here's the unloaded info. I have the 2022 7.3L F350 Lariat extended cab, 6.75 bed, 3.73 axle, 18c whels. Not Tremor, but I optioned nearly all of the Lariat Ultimate items and HD suspension items (minus the snowplow front springs). No winch or moonroof. The payload rating is 4035Lbs.
      With 2 of us in it and a full gas tank, it scaled 7800 LB. Empty, in town, with short trips mileage can go below 10 mpg. On I-17 up the hills from Phoenix to Flagstaff at 75+MPH, I get around 14 mpg and over 15 on the round trip total. Only 2500 miles on it yet so far.
      In 2 weeks I'll be picking up a new 32' 5th wheel DS toy hauler with probably 14K+ GVWR. A week or so later we plan to take it up to Flagstaff, which should be a good comparison to our unloaded runs. I'll keep my speed under 65mph for the towing.

    • @tomcat5986
      @tomcat5986 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidcaskey4669 3.73 or 4.30 are your only options as far as I know

    • @davidcaskey4669
      @davidcaskey4669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garyschulte859 thanks for the info let me know towing mileage maybe someone will post with the 4.30 gear

  • @gregsilva1472
    @gregsilva1472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I weigh around 65,000 lbs when I tow with my 8.lL
    I have 2007 GMC Topkick C7500 2 axle dump truck towing a pup trailer. Truck weighs a little over 15k and holds 8 tons of dirt on its back and pup trailer weights 10k and hold 12 tons of dirt

  • @jeromep
    @jeromep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s all consider that every new Class A gasser built now is equipped with a similar power train, 7.3 V8 connected to a 6 speed automatic. Those Class As are predominantly in the 14,000-22,000 lb. gross range. So the performance of the F350 with the 7.3 fits with what you’d find on a Class A and is well within its capabilities.

  • @atomictyler
    @atomictyler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the larger tank on my diesel F350. 60 gallons of diesel and we don't have to fill up at all during travel days. we stop and fill up when we're stopping for the day. Of course you can only do that with a diesel, but it sure is a big advantage.
    edit: I should add going through big cities with our standard tank was never fun. we would always need to fill up before or be searching after getting through. now we just keep on cruising.

  • @paullane7489
    @paullane7489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a really great video and great explanation of your experience with the 7.3 L. That was valuable information for many people. Thank you👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Much appreciated!

  • @_DB.COOPER
    @_DB.COOPER ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been towing a 30’ bumper pull trailer with a 2009 Ford V10 since 2012, among other things.

    • @repairvehicle
      @repairvehicle ปีที่แล้ว

      How many miles on the truck?

  • @explanger527
    @explanger527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my grey wolf 26dbh with my 2000 Ford Expedition 4.6L 2wd. Not a great combination after a few weeks pulling and one trip over 50 miles. Realizing the trailer was too much for my beast of a truck. She was a trooper, 22 years old and 373k miles, but the trailer was soon found out to be just a bit too much for full-time RV life. Was able to get a 2004 6L F-250 SRW crew cab long box 4WD truck, flatbed. Nearly 40Gal diesel tank and about the same monthly cost in fuel from the expedition on my normal day to day use. Exceptional pulling, better braking, and medium duty features. 35" tires are a bit more than needed, but came with the truck. Have completed a 700 mile round trip at an average of 14 mpg hauling my unit from Central FL to middle GA and back. Can't complain there at all. Truck and trailer rig combinations do vary, but my 32ft trailer and 19ft truck make an amazing combo. Using the Kurt weight distribution hitch does help tremendously too. Even with diesel costs, I wouldn't live full time rv without a diesel truck. My teuck and trailer combo suit my needs, others may vary. Do the research, remember tongue weight, I forgot when I was trailer searching.

  • @jimsmith9819
    @jimsmith9819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i had a 74 GMC one ton dually, with 5.7 L gas and four speed manual transmission, i towed a 38 foot RV/ Toy hauler fifth wheel with it, several times with no major issues, if it had had a five speed it probably would have climbed hills better. i prefer duallys for better stability

  • @yankeetown3739
    @yankeetown3739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This exactly answered my questions about this engine… thanks.

  • @bigoldal2436
    @bigoldal2436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We kept our 92 IDI 7.3 Dually for pulling our 33 ft triple slide Jayco Designer but keep it in storage. We bought a Power Boost XLT for current travels with 28 ft tag along 1 slide. When Duke Power failed twice for several hours the truck generator was a Blessing!

  • @Carl-th8rz
    @Carl-th8rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent review. One add. The Pilot/FlyingJ app can be sorted by “RV Friendly” location…many with RV specific pumps (meaning long pull through with gas as an option).

    • @ERIKCANTU
      @ERIKCANTU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One note that I found out the hard way, once you find the RV friendly locations, look at the details and make sure they have the specific things you need.

  • @bullnukeoldman3794
    @bullnukeoldman3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I purchased a '19 F350 with the 6.2 gas/4.30 axle and regularly tow a 16k, 41' horse trailer w/living quarters. It tows perfectly fine as stated in this video and attains similar fuel mileage. My previous tow vehicle was a '99 F350 diesel that towed the same trailer - my '19 gasser does just as well or better than my previous truck. The 7.3 gas is a good engine but I'd purchase another 6.2 instead of paying the premium for it - not worth it in my experience.

    • @thejuiceisloose8703
      @thejuiceisloose8703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 11 f250 with the 6.2. My truck has 3.73 gears and the 6 speed auto. I have to say I couldn’t be happier with the capabilities of this engine. Even with the gearing I can pull 12k with ease. Mileage is not quite as good as the newer trucks. But not too much of a difference. I’d be happy with a newer 6.2 myself

  • @lucasharju
    @lucasharju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You did an excellent job of getting to the point and explaining the different variables in comparing all the options. Clear, concise and quick! So often TH-cam informational videos are full of fluff, not this one! Kudos

  • @coldnnh6983
    @coldnnh6983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s just those damn hills, I’ve towed with both with same trailer, the fuel savings on long trips is enormous with diesel, 7-8 with gas , 13-14 with Cummins, plus resale, good luck on your journey

  • @TheMinnow101
    @TheMinnow101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man you sure got the diesel guys all worked up with this video. Guess they’re feeling a little threatened. Or maybe it’s a case of the Short Man Syndrome.
    It’s great to hear the straight skinny from someone that has actual towing experience with this engine.
    And although you may have issues from time to time fueling up, be assured at least those concerns are offset by the diesel guys who have a potential CP4 fuel pump imploding, DEF contamination, DPF filter plugged, SCR and assorted sensors crapping out worries knawing at them. Not to mention the cost of diesel fuel .40 - .70 cents a gallon higher then gas.
    You made the right choice. By the way I own a tow my fifth wheel with a diesel…..

    • @normalguy556
      @normalguy556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've towed with both (travel for my job) and the ability to maneuver in the small parking lot areas where you get gas was the biggest issue for me.

    • @the_truck_farmer
      @the_truck_farmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normalguy556 I find it interesting that this complaint about gas powered trucks seems to be the most prevalent. I guess I don’t tow a big tall rv but I’ve never had too much trouble with gas pumps (I usually pull a flat bed trailer)

    • @normalguy556
      @normalguy556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the_truck_farmer I have a 38ft bumper pull. 90% of gas stations not on major freeways were not feasible. Especially if it was during the day with cars parked in spot. I carried 2, 5 gallon gas cans for that reason and it was always stressful having to look on Google maps satellite to plan out gas stations that I could make it into. Going from that to being able to pull into a diesel pump thats designed for semis is effortless and a huge load off of my mind.

    • @the_truck_farmer
      @the_truck_farmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normalguy556 I thought it was weird that a new constructed gas station in my town put gas pumps next to their diesel pumps on the truck islands and now I’m understanding why. But yeah, that’s a rare exception…

    • @davidcaskey4669
      @davidcaskey4669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diesel just have to much emissions to make them a good long lasting motor now

  • @daves1646
    @daves1646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing your experience with the 7.3L gas in the 1 ton F-series. Impressive!!

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You bet!

  • @RedBeardsGarage
    @RedBeardsGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel because I bought a 7.3 F350. Love how you explain things and get right to the point without wasting my time. Great content and I wish you the best of luck with your channel!

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome aboard!

  • @TruckerJohn-lu5wi
    @TruckerJohn-lu5wi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found you guys. Good info. We also have a gas F-350 but ours is the 2021 with a 6.2L. All of the 7.3L were in the King Ranch's and could not afford a $80,000 truck. We tow a 30 foot Keystone RD24S 5th wheel and after 32,000 miles have had no problems in our journeys. Thanks for the good videos.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so myck for being here!

  • @deanmay338
    @deanmay338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Jason, great review of the 7.3L Godzilla V8. I am not really brand loyal in terms of mid-size or half-ton trucks, but if we ever needed a heavy duty pickup, it would be a Ford so we could get the 7.3L engine. Great engine choice in terms of capability. We would never need a diesel, so the 7.3L would be my engine of choice. I also think that 8 to 9 mpg at 65 mph towing a 43 foot 5er is respectable, particularly given how much you saved over the diesel engine. As always, thanks for an informative video!

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the cost is such a huge factor. Good to hear from you Dean!

  • @criznitty
    @criznitty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It’s funny how when you drive a gas truck unloaded, you love getting on it to hear all the V8 noises, but when it’s actually working under a load, people start getting nervous.

    • @jaydancraven1117
      @jaydancraven1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree, towed ~20,000 in a triple axle toy hauler from Minnesota to Billings, Montana with a 350 long bed. Got on I-90 in SD and set the cruise at 80 and let her go. Had a head wind for probably 130 miles and the MPG dropped to about 6.7 and our RPM averaged 4500 😂 My co-worker thought i was going to blow it up but as long as the temperatures were fine I'm sure the engine will be fine

    • @BarnStangz
      @BarnStangz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From what I've read and seen, this 7.3 gasser is built pretty stout, I have a feeling that it'll be a good engine for Ford. I too am contemplating one myself.

    • @gooooooootooooooo3825
      @gooooooootooooooo3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydancraven1117 Yes technically it should be fine but headwind is no joke up here I’ve lived in Idaho and Montana my whole life but when wind picks up you see everyone towing something reducing speed not just because wear and tear and gas mileage but because a lot of people get tipped over passing other big rigs.

    • @higherlifts420
      @higherlifts420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That why you buy a diesel

    • @mikefreeman4662
      @mikefreeman4662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@higherlifts420 but,but, he just blew his Wad on a $85k supertent, so now can't afford a truck...what a douche!

  • @billietyree2214
    @billietyree2214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the 60s I towed a 55’ long 12” wide house trailer across Northern Indiana with a 1 ton chevy truck with a 327 asoline engine. 60 and 65 mph all the way, no harm.

  • @stevenhanna6973
    @stevenhanna6973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That 7.3 is a beast

  • @temoswalt2371
    @temoswalt2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for an honest and well explained review. I'm leaning this way as well, was considering the 3.73 gears, but the 4.10 has the towing advantage.
    I also hadn't considered the short bed vs long bed fuel capacity, good point.

    • @johnbouldin9033
      @johnbouldin9033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure you try turning around in a cul-de-sac with the long bed or a parking lot before you commit.

    • @strang1124
      @strang1124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Put a 30- 50 gal. auxilary tank in the bed. That will fix the fuel issue

    • @stacimccarter531
      @stacimccarter531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ordered my truck with 4.30s and a 48 gallon tank but its a 4door long bed

  • @tomahawk350
    @tomahawk350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Interested to see how these OHV engines perform long term. The last pushrod V8 Ford used was the 302 in '01. Those motors are still on the road and working well.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I liked that it was built for longevity, even though that's yet to be seen. I might not have taken a chance on it without that being such a focus in everything from Ford's mouths.

    • @thebigguy
      @thebigguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you aware that the Ford 7.3L gas engine is a pushrod engine?

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, that's what we're talking about.

    • @thebigguy
      @thebigguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RVMiles D'OH! My brain read Overhead Cams... Too tired.

    • @jeromep
      @jeromep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is old is new again. Ford’s 7.3 doesn’t fall too far from the old 460ci (7.5L) V8. This is a clean sheet design, but being a pushrod engine, shares genetics with all the great large blocks of the past. The old V10 proved itself to be quite tough and is all over the place and will remain in service for years to come; that UPS truck that visited your house today is probably not new and is probably on the Ford F-59 chassis which means the V10, but Ford couldn’t squeeze any more performance or efficiency out of that design. Going back to a pushrod V8 shortens the total engine height and makes it possible for it to be put into many more applications than the much taller V10. The V10 was an overhead cam engine which made the heads very tall. Ford also looked at what GM was doing with the much vaunted LS engines and was looking for something that was more competitive with the LS engines. You can purchase the new Ford 7.3 from their performance division as a crate engine that makes 600HP naturally aspirated, right out of the box. It is going to be interesting to see where this engine ends up; not just in pickups and motorhomes, but probably in a lot of hot rods, customs and street racers. Supposedly it can be shoehorned into Fox body Mustangs!

  • @rvcouple7566
    @rvcouple7566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple of points we noted. 1) We’ve found diesel fuel is often cheaper than gas. (2) We have found fueling in the truck side with our 43” 5th wheel is easy. We also use an RV card that allows us to pay at the pump and often with a discount. (3) Our mileage towing is higher than it appears you get with gas. A big plus. (4) We negotiated and didn’t pay an extra 8-9K for the diesel motor. Ended up about 1k more is all. Just wanted to clarify our finding on this. On the other hand we did finally decide to go with the long bed dually for safety due to the length of the 5th wheel. We also use a gooseneck for better control and bed use when not towing.

    • @SouthernFryd
      @SouthernFryd ปีที่แล้ว

      "We’ve found diesel fuel is often cheaper than gas"
      Where do you see this?

  • @wizpopr
    @wizpopr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I pull a Sabre 37FLH with a 2500HD Diesel. I used to pull it with the same truck with a gas engine. I will never pull it again with a gas engine. I got 6.5 mpg with the Chevy 6.0. We snowbird in Florida and drive from Illinois every year. I had to disconnect the camper to get gas at virtually every truck stop. I'm so glad that I bought the diesel. I did look for quite a long time before I found a pre-owned Chevy 2500HD with Duramax, but I found a 2019 last year with 2500 miles and the price was right. Going through the commercial lanes is awesome, even if you do have to go in and pre-pay.

  • @TimTheTowman
    @TimTheTowman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Factor in the cost of the regular services, fake mileage claims and the inevitable repairs to injectors,pumps and turbos on the diesel and I'd say you made a better buy.. Plus you bought a truck with the right gear ratio for towing.. Most of the diesel trucks have the wrong ratios for towing which increases the static load on the drivetrain leading to most of the common failures that all three brands see pretty regularly.. The only time any of the diesel trucks pencil out is when you are earning money with them nearly every mile you drive them! Otherwise, it's all vanity..

    • @HVTMuddvain
      @HVTMuddvain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya i think if im towing 10k a year that justifies the diesel but hey again its all personal preference in the long run. Ive only had 1 of my 3 diesels over the years have an injector failure no turbos no pumps thats 03 5.9 cummins and a 12 6.7 Ford and a 13 6.7 Cummins. Definitely not very many in comparison to some other people but combined i was around 300k miles driven between all of those trucks. The two Cummins were also sadly bought used nvr know how they treated them. But i dont tune and race around just hay and horse trailers occasional atv and brother inlaws toy hauler. Again to each their own but ABSOLUTELY NO GASSER will ever feel as secure and strong as any of the big three Diesels when you hook up to 15k plus lbs been there done that. Just cause something CAN doesnt mean its the best choice. But all that said i love the 7.3 seems like its going to be a very strong choice for low tow mileage peeps weekend warriors and such.

  • @SuperJason2k
    @SuperJason2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did you consider a long-bed truck and the increased GVRW? We're looking at a similar sized fifth wheel, and if you go F-350 Diesel Lariat Long Bed crew cab, you can get over 4,000lbs payload. Best of all worlds.
    F-350 SRW Short Bed: 11,500lbs GVWR
    F-350 SRW Long Bed: 12,400lbs GVWR

  • @luisreviews6412
    @luisreviews6412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well put. Those big gas engines don’t get enough press and credit. Good on you for being real on your situation and setup.

  • @jimm2442
    @jimm2442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make some very good points especially about fueling. We came from a 36' class A motorhome (Winnebago Voyage 35L) that had a 8.1 liter Chevy gasoline engine (7.5 mpg on a good day) and we towed a small SUV (Chevy Tracker). The motorhome had a 75 gallon fuel tank, but still you had to take it into the gasoline side of the stations when fueling was required and that was al lot. There were often inconsiderate people that would cut in front of us or leave their car blocking pumps.
    We now own a fifth wheel (2021 Grand Design 303RLS) and a 2021 Chevrolet 3500HD SWR Diesel that has a 36 gallon fuel tank and an added 60 gallon tank in the bed behind the cab. This along with the ability to use the diesel pumps in the rear of stations away from the cars is worth the diesel truck price alone to me. The stress of fueling that motorhome is gone and the money that is saved being able to shop fuel prices instead being forced to buy due to need is a huge consideration.
    Like the Ford 7.3 the Chevrolet 8.1 gas engine produced it's torque at a high RPM and you knew it on every hill. We live in the Sierra Mountains and the diesel is night and day better with the exception of its cost.
    Thanks for the video and safe travels.

  • @peterdeboer2805
    @peterdeboer2805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should see if they make an aftermarket gas tank with a bigger capacity. Some are available for other trucks that take advantage of void spaces around the tank.

    • @03tarserov64
      @03tarserov64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re expensive as fuck tho lol

    • @peterdeboer2805
      @peterdeboer2805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@03tarserov64 can never win with today's prices

  • @GanderFlight
    @GanderFlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it - very thorough as always and your points were clear. I can imagine the larger tank on the long bed would absolutely be a welcome addition.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, there's apparently an aftermarket 55 gallon replacement tank coming out this summer that I've got my eye on.

    • @GanderFlight
      @GanderFlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RVMiles Any releases on what kind of pricepoint though?

  • @kenjohnson4423
    @kenjohnson4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful and expensive truck. I have an O3 6.0l, bullet proofed, anyway, why is everyone so in love with fancy trucks. I love the simplicity of the late 70s Ford high boys, white steel wheels, tall and sexy truck. I would get a XL, steel wheels, no carpet, vinyl seats, 7.3l, level it up a bit to honor the high boy.

    • @markmundwiller5842
      @markmundwiller5842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they drive and ride like a 2 ton truck, have terrible steering, and even worse brakes. I grew up with the hi boys. Have had many over the years Powered by everything from a 300 straight 6 to 500 cube stroker motors. They are out dated dinosaurs. Love them. they have their place and it sure isn't in the same league as the truck I. The vidio

  • @skookapalooza2016
    @skookapalooza2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think 8 to 9 mpg is remarkable for such a large engine. For comparison, we towed a 7000+ lb. travel trailer with a Lexus GX 470. We got around the same mpg. That Tremor is SO cool!

  • @niveknospmoht8743
    @niveknospmoht8743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For the life of me I cannot figure out how 30 ish years ago people towed with gas engines all the time. Now the feeling is if I'm towing I 'have to have a diesel'. honestly the fuel mileage is eaten up by the time you figure out adding the DEF and the constant maintenance. I'll stick with my big block in my flatbed. Who needs to crest a mountain pass going 10-15 mph over the speed limit

    • @tommyschiller6097
      @tommyschiller6097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don’t understand constant maintenance comments, I change my oil every 5,000 miles along with both fuel filters . Cost is about $210-220 . Other than rotate tires that’s it , just the same a gasser , except price for oil is a little less expensive. The only down to towing a heavy load with a gasser is the constant high rpm over the course of years takes it toll on the motor.

    • @DavidJones-qg2yp
      @DavidJones-qg2yp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having owned a 6.0 Excursion for the last 15 years I can tell you that my experience is they are also far more expensive to repair. That 7.3 seems to be pretty straight forward from a repair perspective.

    • @mgkleym
      @mgkleym 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's especially odd given all the gas motorhomes out on the road A big gas class A is 20,000+ pounds and is often pulling a car to boot and they manage just fine.

    • @zacz1986
      @zacz1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommyschiller6097 $210-220 is in most cases, literally twice the cost than gas per oil change. When diesels do need repair, it’s often twice the cost in most cases. Twice in parts. Twice the labor if you go to the dealer because now you’re paying for a diesel trained technician. Honestly I like both, but they each have a place. As a technician myself, I’d recommend the average person stick with gas. Most people will never use the full potential of a diesel one ton.

    • @ASM31237
      @ASM31237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly our companies 2017 F550 has 190k towing miles and it’s only had its up pipes go so far. No real issues so far.

  • @headdown1
    @headdown1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been towing a 15000 lb 38 ft fifth wheel until recently. I have a Cummins Ram 3500 with a 100 gallon diesel tank in the bed of the truck. I get about 12 mpg towing, and about 23 not towing at 65 mph. Range is about 1400 miles while towing, and close to 2800 miles unloaded. Nice to be able to take advantage of buying a lot of cheap diesel when I find it. I assume you use Gas Buddy app to find fuel?

    • @jzwolak
      @jzwolak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! That's a nice setup. Also, at 12 mpg towing, you more than make up for the difference in diesel vs gas prices to save on fuel.

    • @headdown1
      @headdown1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jzwolak I've read of a test where the same Ram truck towing 15,000 lbs with a Hemi got 7 mpg...

    • @snirtman7223
      @snirtman7223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@headdown1 I drive a Ram 3500 SRW 6.4 hemi pulling a 15,000 gooseneck trailer everyday for work and average about 6mpg. Does it pull the load - yes. Does it pull it well - absolutely not. Somehow made it 265,000 miles before a lifter failed, but I'd kill for a diesel or a 7.3 superduty.

    • @headdown1
      @headdown1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snirtman7223 Oh man...12 sounds pretty good compared to 6 mpg. The Cummins has been really strong, and I love the turbo that gives me the same power at high altitude as sea level. I just filled both tanks with 132 gallons of diesel, expecting the price to rise fast in the next while.

  • @rickwilkinson1651
    @rickwilkinson1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After renting a 26ft uhaul with car hauler with car weighing 6k plus a fully loaded truck right over 24k i was impressed we averaged 6 mpg from phx to tx and between 8&9 from tx to wisconsin we cruised at 76mph the whole way other then climbing the mountains between phx and flagstaff and a few other mountain passes. Im a diesel guy but with all the emissions equipment and def i wont touch a new diesel truck. I will buy a 7.3 gas in a heart beat after seeing what this motor is capable of. Also the 650 class trucks are running 6 speed auto and did not fell like i was missing power.

  • @wmpnj
    @wmpnj ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2022 Thor Challenger 37FH sitting on a 2020 Ford F53 chassis with the 7.3L Gorilla as they call it. I've been up/down Mt. Ashland, Grapevine, Raton and others. Put over 5,000 miles in 3 months on it. Other than the recall for the spark plug wires which I did have serviced in Buda, TX, I've been extremely happy with it. At 23,980 pounds it took all the passes at a minimum of 45mph. Screaming all the way of course and when the cooler for the tranny kicks in there are no conversations, but it handled it all very, very well. Going down, it was like having a jack brake on, very nice. I now drive wth the Tow Haul on at all times so I'm not half way up something and remember I didn't kick it in and to help with braking. Very happy with the 7.3L and tranny!

  • @garysanchezphotography
    @garysanchezphotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm going to get a new ruck this year and I just can't deal with half the torque and much less fuel mileage along with going through the car pumps.

  • @vtmkb
    @vtmkb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I ran into some of the same issues. I wasn’t ready for a DRW so I went with the Ram 3500 gas SRW. The diesel had a much lower payload because a Diesel engine is much heavier than a gas.

    • @dank8017
      @dank8017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some diesels like my Chevy 2500 have a have a higher gvwr than their gas counterparts. Mine is #500 more than my buddies gas. Both are 2500hd

    • @brendanhonea1432
      @brendanhonea1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dank8017 Yep any of the 2020+ 3/4 ton duramax trucks can be upgraded to a 11500 GVWR package which give them over 3000lb payload

    • @JohnDiMartino
      @JohnDiMartino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brendanhonea1432 these are 1 ton trucks with 2500 emblems. The DOT and enforcement agencies can stop and inspect them so you may as well get the 3500 srw which rides better anyway abs gets you over 12000 gvwr

    • @TonyBenton0728
      @TonyBenton0728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JohnDiMartino No they can’t ! DOT only stops commercial vehicles. This is not a commercial vehicle.

    • @yeahok115sure
      @yeahok115sure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People focus way to much on payload rating. Get some air bags and be done. Your truck will pull just fine. In the semi truck world there is no such thing as payload rating. You could take a short single frame freightliner with little 36k axles and hook it to my super loads of 245,000lbs. It’s legal, but it’s stupid. Will the truck pull it, yes. Will the truck wear out fast? Absolutely. This is why there are no gas powered semi trucks. It’s dumb. Same should be said about pickups that haul 15k travel trailers.

  • @1798iscomingback
    @1798iscomingback 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My motorhome have this engine and when we are traveling we are close to 26000lbs (including towing a car).
    I love this engine, plenty of power and torque and quiet!
    23000 miles so far w/o any problems.

  • @darrelpeters4880
    @darrelpeters4880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed the video--very informative. My wife is very concerned about downhill towing safety in the western mountains and believes the Ford Power Stroke diesel is the only suitable tow vehicle. Our Airstream has a gross weight of just under 8,000 pounds. I think the 7.3 L gas would be a better all around choice for reasons of initial cost, repair cost, fuel cost etc but would appreciate you views on this issue--especially the issue of controlling the high engine revving during downhill downshifts and the ability to truly slow the rig without excessive tow and trailer brake application. Thanks.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, you'll definitely be good with a gas engine.

  • @danielblocker8008
    @danielblocker8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was the perfect informational youtube video. Right to the point, well informed, gave facts and 1st hand experience. Great job! Take my sub!

  • @travisstuart1231
    @travisstuart1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We did exactly the same thing pulling Avalanche 312rs 15000 lbs max I don't think we are anywhere close to that love the truck though

  • @terrymoeller3096
    @terrymoeller3096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my 7.3. Fuel mileage on mine is 6.9 pulling 15000. Drive 65 mph. I do have long bed with 48 gallon tank and love it.

  • @10dannyp89
    @10dannyp89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest complaint towing with the gas is the fuel range. Not the mileage, but the range. For my use there are times when I can’t make 150 highway miles on a tank, and the fuel stops are much further than that apart. I also use my trailer as a hunting camp, roughly 60 miles from home, to tow it there and back I need to pack fuel for the truck.

  • @markbeck6866
    @markbeck6866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First time watching your videos and I must say you’re better than most. You have a subject to discuss and you give it quite succinctly. You’re to the point and don’t ramble on like so many do. Thank you, this was very informative and helpful.

  • @lot-a-timers4507
    @lot-a-timers4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While I have and love my GMC 3500 diesel, I appreciated you honest views and information (like you always do with all subjects) on how the gas truck worked for you. I did not think about he “gas lines only” and not the RV/Truck lanes with diesel only…thanks!!

    • @SurelyYewJest
      @SurelyYewJest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya, towing a 5th wheel and not being able to go through the truck side would/will be a problem at A LOT of places including large truck-stop supercenter-type stations. Not only do you have to worry about overhead clearance (which is more a problem at smaller stations) you have to worry about there being enough space for your total turning radius getting into the station, to a pump, and getting out of the station without blocking traffic. That's to say nothing of having to potentially wait for multiple cars to finish filling before you can squeeze in to a line of pumps 2-3 deep. You're also trying to avoid causing damage to the facility's stuff or your trailer. I would think that with the gas engine, investing in the largest possible factory fuel tank or adding an aftermarket one in the bed will help immensely in reducing pump anxiety.
      This is what has to be done if you don't drop the trailer somewhere first, which is a HUGE pain in the ass to have to do.

  • @CodyRatliff1
    @CodyRatliff1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "can't afford the diesel" *buys tremor package*

  • @bishopgeorge1333
    @bishopgeorge1333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just pick up a 2022 Ram Laramie CTD CCLB my payload is over 4K my 5th wheel is about 13,000lbs 37' but I haven't tow with it yet, the Big Horn that I was looking at had a payload of 43,000lbs but I didn't want the Big Horn I wanted the Laramie. I traded in a 2018 Ram 3500 CCSB with the diesel engine, so I got almost what I paid for it, I think that you have an awesome setup.

  • @airman6822
    @airman6822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Might want to consider an auxiliary fuel tank to get you enough fuel to make the entire trip without stopping with your trailer. Might be worth the investment.

  • @DavidBrown-jt7yi
    @DavidBrown-jt7yi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My buddy has the same truck. He loves it but man he hates the gas mileage. You can definitely get an aftermarket gas tank to increase range.

  • @judystreich7333
    @judystreich7333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a lot of good info, hope it will help some people who are on the fence on what to buy. We have a 7.3L Diesel. It is a 2001, yes, that is not a typo, with less than 98000 miles that we towed our 27 ft fifth wheel. It is a very confident ride, can get in anyplace, but because of health issues (stroke) has been sitting idle. My comment is a reference to tires. I have seen and been passed by rv’ers like they are being chased by the law! I wonder how many people out there are aware there is a speed rating on their tires? Regarding The Ford gas engine, I bought a 2020 class c and it has a V10 gas, I believe it was the last year they put that engine in the class c. It is a powerhouse, and I love it. I went from the dealer to the garage and got an alignment, replaced the shocks with heavy duty RV shocks, and added a steer safe system to it. Drives like it suppose to now 👍

    • @bizzle4819
      @bizzle4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speed ratings on trailer tires are quite shocking. I bought an enclosed trailer, nice all aluminum etc, cant even drive the speed limit on the highway lol

  • @TheBandit7613
    @TheBandit7613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a new 7.3 powered truck. I love it. It's a powerhouse yet civilized. not bad on gas considering. Very smooth. No crap diesel emissions which WILL fail.

    • @dank8017
      @dank8017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scare tactics. Things will fail on a gasser too.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dank8017 At work we have over a thousand new diesel pickups. (Local public works)
      Diesel emissions parts are failing by the dozens and they are considering switching the whole fleet to gas. Lots of idling at work is bad for exhaust filters. The idling is necessary. I still have my deleted F350 in the garage.

  • @ericschaefer5407
    @ericschaefer5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love my 7.3, I sold my 2013 6.7 to buy it, it does everything I ask it to do, granted my max load is 14k ( dump trailer and mini excavator) i feel better knowing I can repair any engine issues that come up. My 6.7 went through 4 EGR coolers, and that was just a short list of issues I had with it.

    • @michaelcrimi99
      @michaelcrimi99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I switched back to gas as well,, after a $9,000 bill on my 2008 6.0 .. Been happy with the 6.2, pulling 12k .

    • @adamshaw8214
      @adamshaw8214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcrimi99 there was no 6.0 diesel in 2008

    • @adamshaw8214
      @adamshaw8214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric tell the rest of the issues on the powerstroke.

  • @CFPVideoProductions
    @CFPVideoProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent review. I'm glad to see someone that looks deep into pros and cons and has real hands on experience. Keep up the good reports. They all seem thorough and with a lot of research.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated!

  • @kenanderson2216
    @kenanderson2216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 2020 f450 7.3 GAS. Gets me up the on-ramps with no downshifting. Its a 12 ft bed commercial work truck. 11,00lbs with 20ft rack and lots o' tool boxes.

  • @seawolff33
    @seawolff33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RV Miles - the company Transfer Flow in Chico, Ca is in final process of getting a 58 gallon gasoline tank finalized for retail sale. You can contact them and get on their contact list to be notified when the tank is ready for retail sale.

  • @patrickmelson4745
    @patrickmelson4745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good choice and explanation. I had to update my truck and went with the new Chevy 6.4 gas. It's great for the price. I was lucky to find one. I could not find a 7.3 gas with the higher tow rating. I couldn't find one with the taller axle gears. Many fleets are going away from diesel with down time and repair costs It's a shame, but the numbers don't work well for Desiel anymore compared to the performance and gas mileage of these modern gas engines.

    • @randyphillips559
      @randyphillips559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand your "but the numbers don't work well for Diesel anymore compared to the performance and gas mileage of these modern gas engines." statement?? At 470lb tq compared to lowest diesel at 850lb tq, for pulling power I see NO comparison, I'd say the numbers don't work well for the gas!

    • @nhlcfl7733
      @nhlcfl7733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to hear you're happy with the new Chevy/GM engine. Perhaps you meant to write 6.6, not 6.4.

    • @davidcaskey4669
      @davidcaskey4669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @randy phillips 4gallons of oil for a change high price of fuel and oil filters,the def fluid plus the extra engine ware due to emissions and bad fuel mileage compared to the older diesels. 6 injectors for a 12valve Cummins $600 6 injectors for the 6.7 Cummins over $3000. My friends ford got bad fuel coming back from Colorado had some def fluid in it he could have done said he didnt I tend to believe him he has equipment but any way it was $12,000 dollars to fix fuel system

  • @curtisbull1583
    @curtisbull1583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Video well done. The 7.3 gas option is truly way above anything the competition has and does very well for a gas option. I can see how some people can be pretty satisfied with it for most towing applications.
    I did consider this option for my newest purchase, but knew I would have times when even this 7.3 gas option would not produce the power and ease of towing I look for in a tow rig.
    Tried a 21 ford f350 diesel, wasn't real satisfied with it, so after about a month I traded it in on another ram cummins, this time getting a 3500 HO.
    Great truck, now with tuning and STUFF, truck runs great tows my 15,000 lbs toy hauler anywhere with out breaking a sweat. And Rams exhaust brake is night a day better at stopping a heavy load then anything ford or GM has. Stopping power is just as important and pulling power, if not more important.
    If I ever stop traveling across the country and or move to a much lighter rv I could see myself getting the 7.3 gas. But if buying for our company and workers to drive, hands down the gas option is the only good option, financially speaking.

  • @ben12079
    @ben12079 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know if you monitor comments on a two-year old video, but here goes. I had a 2020 Lariat with the 7.3 Godzilla engine and absolutely loved it…, except…. I hated, feared, loathed and often felt like crying when I had to fuel up while towing. I was towing a 35’ travel trailer that weighed under 10K pounds. The 7.3 was a monster tow vehicle. I could pass anything on the highway (I didn’t, but I could have) without it breaking a sweat. But I really, really hated to refuel. Maneuvering around a gasoline station was absolutely awful. Unhooking and rebooking a travel trailer was a pain in the wazoo compared to a 5th wheel. So now I’m driving a long-bed diesel and towing a 5th wheel. All in all, I’m happy with my set up and love refueling in the trucker lanes.
    Anyway, you’re absolutely correct in your assessment of the 7.3 engine’s abilities. It’s a great engine.
    Safe travels.

  • @bparkinson1234
    @bparkinson1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just sold my 7.3 diesel. Went with 2023 super duty with 7.3 godzilla. Love it. Thanks

  • @victoryrider
    @victoryrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wanted the Tremor package but wanted the 48 gallon gas tank long box more. Really love my 22 F350 7.3

    • @rhealdingus7663
      @rhealdingus7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      48 gallon + long box was the deciding factor for me. I can bolt on everything that came with the Tremor package, but I'm not bolting on a longer bed.

    • @SuperDuty250
      @SuperDuty250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Long box is where its at🤟🇺🇸

  • @Xander-dx6mw
    @Xander-dx6mw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I understand what you were saying about the 8' bed and long wheelbase, but I when I saw one, the door sticker had the bed payload at 3480 lbs, likely because the truck weighed more, and the added 105 lbs of extra fuel.

    • @justinwilliams50
      @justinwilliams50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The payload on my 7.3L long bed F350 XLT with the offroad 4x4 package is 3,749lbs. I ordered it and therefore could only guess what it would be before I got it, but I definitely wouldn't want it any lower, especially since the plan was for an eventual 5th wheel. I should also note that I opted for the 11,400lb GVWR package to avoid extra registration fees and hassles in California, which may have trimmed 100 pounds from my theoretical payload, at least on paper.

  • @thedolt9215
    @thedolt9215 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love TH-cam informational videos that start without cheesy introductions and music and what not… I usually immediately turn them off. Give me the information, and thanks! This was a great video.

    • @RVMiles
      @RVMiles  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @ottocarr3688
    @ottocarr3688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, what a great tutorial! An active tire monitoring system diminishes the concern over having dual tires. You can even include the system on the trailer. It is rare that RVers are as concerned about legally towing as you. Kudos to you in all instances.