I feel like it’s a strong point that I went to see Frozen 2 in the theaters with my 3 year old sister, and when Olaf died, she leaned towards me and whispered “He’s not really dead, he’s gonna come back”. That says a LOT about the expectations Disney sets up for its movies.
Yyep. I realised that at a fairly young age as well, though it was older than three. When I saw a foreign-made movie at my relative's house, the protagonists were dying, and I remember thinking that they would live. I was shocked and sad when they didn't. Which, yes, understandable to be sad. But "movie characters weren't supposed to die." It sets up unrealistic expectations for children in both film and real life, to make sure the only losers are the villains and the protagonists live.
I’m so sick of characters being brought back from the dead or never having died in the fight place but the media making you think they did. This isn’t a problem with Disney alone. It’s come to the point that nearly no death phases me anymore, all because of a million fake deaths. Like, listen. Some people are just dead. Plain and simple. No coming back. It’s painful and awful, but it happens. Fake deaths make real deaths look like a goddamn joke
What if instead of Elsa’s powers being a blessing from the spirits they were actually a curse from something not-too-good her parents did before she was born. That way it explains why her powers are so dangerous, allows the characters to confront that their parents might have not been the best, and can give Elsa some cool character moments where she can use powers that are supposed to be a curse for good instead. I think it would also be interesting coz it could reflect how she was originally supposed to be the villain of the first movie since that’s how the original fairy tale was.
Same here. You would think the spirits would be pissed at Elsa’s mom for saving some dude that was apart of the group of people who built the dam, but nah
My thoughts exactly dude. You would think the spirits would be pissed at Elsa’s mom for saving some dude that was apart of the group of people who built the dam, but nah
I think it wasn't not Anna's coronation day but just the inauguration of the statues. If it was actually Anna's coronation day, the worst thing was that Elsa didn't even show up.
Frozen 2 was just Anna being unheathily obsessed with Elsa, Elsa lowkey trying to run away from her and poor Kristoff third-weeling them (like always) for 1 hour 43 minutes straight.
@@yohelpineedausername5908 Because she adores Elsa. She sees her as a role model. But they were kept separated for years. As much as it must have been hard for Elsa, it must have been hard for Anna too. She beggs and beggs to play to meet her sister, but keeps getting ignored by her. Someone she loves keeps rejecting her. No matter how hard Anna tries, no matter what she does, she never gets to feel loved by her. Thats suffering. She keeps waiting for the moment when she can finally met her sister. And when the time comes, her sister is no different than an ice cube. Acting very cold to Anna and keeping everything inside. Edit: Also, younger sisters mostly have an obsession with their older sisters. It is because they grow up seeing them as role models. They always want to impress them, feel loved by them and try to be like them. Do some further research :D
I feel like no one ever brings that up. They may be sisters but I feel like Anna was just being to attached to the point where she’ll literally get herself killed just to be near her(like who TF runs into fricking fire?!)
I'd be fine with the movie being a bit longer so they could pace the ending better, I was still tryna process wtf happened while the end credits were rolling
Same. I looked my mom in the eyes when Anna became queen and said “I don’t like that”. I like Elsa more as queen, even tho she doesn’t feel it’s the right place. Good movie tho *shrug*
Imo they shouldve just skipped all the "But Elsa youre my sister I cant leave you I love you" scenes, it happened like 5 times and the movie became so boring because of it
M0chaKinz agreed. Apparently the one thing the writer wanted in the movie was “queen anna”. Terrible execution at actually leading to that though, the plot was 99% irrelevant to it.
Very true, oddly enough I was interested in the story but it didn't suit the usual Disney Animation format. I found it very rushed at th beginning and yes Olaf's story was funny and all but let's be honest that was a quick, cheap way to continue the plot. Another thing is Arrendale should've been destroyed and I don't even blame the writers for this, Disney probably looked at the final product and changed it to a happy ending.
That moment when you click on a video and the guy is stressing how much it's not for kids and you wonder wtf is going on until you remember everyone used to be scared of COPPA and it all makes sense
*Everyone watching the trailer:* "Whoah, is Kristoff gonna become the leader of some kind of reindeer army?!?!" *Everyone after the movie:* "Nevermind it was just Kristoff and a ton of reindeer with his voice singing about how dramatic his love life is."
They actually build anna and kristoff's relationship in the first movie, and it was actually sweet and meaningful but in the second movie, it was just anna brushing him off and ignoring him until he proposes then she cries? I feel like they could have done more to build on their new relationship together but they just didn't and it makes me sad.
I feel bad for kristoff in the first movie I didn’t just see him as Anna love interest I saw him as his own character and individual but that’s all frozen 2 decided he was just Anna love interest
I really thought Arendelle was going to be washed away, a literal clean slate for them to rebuild their kingdom with the Northuldruns. But then again, not every movie can be Thor: Ragnarok. I mean, it's not like they had a pair of siblings, one who is stubbornly optimistic and the other has ice powers and they both learn about colonialism.
@@izzyobrien1081 just bc ppl have made comparisons of the two pairs of characters in the past doesn't mean i stole it, it just means a lot of other ppl thought the same thing regarding these two films.
I was waiting for the line in the movie where one of the characters would say that Arendelle is not a place, it’s a people (or something along those lines)
That was the original plan for the movie. The first write movie was a lot darker, just like the first movie was supposed to be, but since it’s a kids movie they changed it to what we got.
The scene at the end wasn't her coronation, it was the reveal of her parents's new statue. If it was a coronation than where's the comer? Where's the party?
@@bibbles8219 You not having the basic IQ to understand that isnt a coronation of any kind makes you the laughable one. The filmmakers aint losing any sleep, I promise you.
I saw a ‘deleted scene’ with Elsa and Anna discovering the subjugation of the ethnic minority, including outlawing the use of their language. That, maybe combined with the environmental and societal issue of leaders extracting natural resources in a way that is harmful to said disenfranchised minority, could have been a good theme to explore, not to mention historically and currently poignant. They still could have had Anna dealing with the human side and Elsa dealing with the environmental side without the supernatural self-discovery plot.
Ok but does anyone else think anna should've had that white streak of hair even if she did turn back to normal? I think that would be like a Piece of "even if we cause problems they can get better, there will always be something left behind, but we learned from it"
When my seven year old sister saw Olaf “dying” she legitimately got upset. I had to comfort her and say that no main protagonists that’s not a parent ever dies in a Disney movie.
I'm glad someone's mentioning how bad the "look how nice the parents were" thing was. They literally isolated their oldest child, resulting in her developing multiple mental illnesses, making the youngest think the oldest hated her, and basically making elsa's entire life revolve around self loathing and not hurting her sister. The parents sucked and Disney really want people to forget that :/ Instead of acknowledging that sure, they had the best intentions in mind but they were still awful parents.
Well I would argue that having a walking reverse nuclear bomb as a daughter is hard, and not everyone is a Kent. They are only "bad" cause they died. If they had lived, they could have helped elsa and anna.
there are five elements, Earth, Fire, Air, Water, and the main one is ice. “Wait what were those last elements?” “Water” “And what else?” “Ice” “Nope. No difference at all”
@@lisalegato0109 It's a little different there. Think of water as a basic element and ice is a subtype of it. Just like how surgeons specialize in surgeries about, for example the liver, etc, Gray specializes in the Ice subtype of Water Magic
Darkness, Light? I don't know even STEEL would make sense. Lightning I don't know they kinda are extremely fast condensed fire blasts. But by that logic a lot of things would be fire. Fuck
Problems I had with Frozen 2: - Like in the first movie, Anna's and Elsa's sister dynamic is so forced. Their whole relationship is just "i love you so much!" and "I can't lose you again!" The sisterly banter seems very fake, and I feel like their relationship was written by someone who had no idea of how familes work. - Kristoff was dumped down into just being Anna's love interest. I'm sorry, but Kristoff is a great character. And it's a shame that the writers seem to have no idea what to do with him. - Elsa's and Olaf's "death" was terribly unconvincing. No one believes for a second that the two most popular characters with most selling merchandise would die. - The songs were okay but not spectacular. Even 'Into The Unknown' wasn't all that good. Idina Menzel did a great job with the vocals as always, and I liked the humming being incorporated into the song. But that's it. - first movie: Elsa abandons her queen duties and runs away. second movie: Elsa abandons her queen duties and runs away. Like??? Are queens just allowed to go and love in a forest because they don't "belong" in their kingdom? - The comedy was pretty weak. The first movie wasn't all that, but it had some decent humor elements to it. - That whole elemental thing just confused me. Why is Elsa the fifth element? Isn't snow just frozen water? Good parts of the movie: - Kristoff.
Again, you're gone, off on a different path than mine I'm left behind, wondering if I should follow You had to go, and of course it's always fine I probably could catch up with you tomorrow But is this what it feels like to be growing apart? When did I become the one who's always chasing your heart? Now I turn around and find I am lost in the woods North is south, right is left, when you're gone I'm the one who sees you home, but now I'm lost in the woods And I don't know what path you are on I'm lost in the woods Up till now the next step was a question of how I never thought it was a question of whether Who am I, if I'm not your guy? Where am I, if we're not together forever? Now I know you're my true north, 'cause I am lost in the woods Up is down, day is night, when you're not there Oh, you're my only landmark, so I'm lost in the woods Wondering if you still care But I'll wait for a sign that I'm on your path 'Cause you are mine Until then, I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods I'm lost in the woods
Fr I lost any positive feelings for it when it tried to sell me the idea that Olaf and Elsa totally died. Like, if you're gonna have the balls to kill off a character in a multi-billionaire franchise you should COMMIT to it, damn it.
@@labale1455 ok you have a point I blame the writers for that.....but maybe what they had in common was developed feelings for each other.....but I hate to say it but I agree with you on that...I apologise
Kristoff’s original character arc was going to be him becoming a lord and HATING it but not wanting to admit it to Anna until he was forced to and Anna discovered he’d been lying to her the whole time, which is honestly a much more entertaining arc than... wacky proposal struggles and I’m kind of disappointed they didn’t include it
"Disney will never be as good as dreamworks when it comes to sequels" Because Dreamworks takes risks.Know that this studio got complaints from parents because of kung fu panda 2,a Sequel that includes Genocide,Homicide,and Suicide. It is just...Dreamworks stories even if they are fanstasies are so real.MAGICAL REASLISM.that the story had so much sense even for a dark content.
yes! dreamworks also knows when its a bad time to make a joke! example: during httyd 2 at the part with stoicks’ ship, dreamworks could EASILY have made hiccup miss the ship with his fire arrow for a “haha he missed” kinda joke, but they didn’t, and i’m glad they didn’t cause it made the scene soooo much better. Disney just horribly fails at knowing when and when not to make jokes, and that failure is what is sort of destroying the MCU as we know it.
I argued with my mom about where the water went. She said ‘in the ocean’ and I said ‘but the water would get higher and would at least cover some low buildings’ ‘ YoU’Re NoT LiStEnInG It GoEs InTo ThE OcEaN’
Emma Kenyon I relate to this so badly. To be honest I liked the way the movie ended, since it’s clear that both sisters are still connected and will still be seeing each other a lot, but Elsa missing Anna’s coronation really bugged me.
I found hilarious how Anna was crushed when Elsa send her and Olaf away in the ice boat, but she fucking did the same with Kristoff when they ditched him in the forest. And when Olaf dies, her thoughts at the time were about Elsa and the fucking snowman, nowhere in her dialogue was Kristoff mentioned at all. I feel bad for the guy, he bothered to do this setting with the reindeers only to get abandoned in the middle of the forest with some old soldiers that probably smell like piss because they are still wearing the same fucking uniforms 30 years later.
Pac-Man and the rest of the Pac-Man characters in their Pac-Man World 2 designs are the only things that could smell the more like piss. XD But in all seriousness, though, right?! And yet people (whether they love this movie or think that while it’s not “terrible, stop lying” like 24 Frames of Nick would claim (I don’t think Frozen 2 is that bad, just mixed because the production is way greater than the writing which is far below Walt Disney Animation Studios’ usual standards as a powerhouse) act like Anna (alongside) was justified of obsessing over Elsa as if she was worse in the second movie than in the first movie (which makes it partially understandable why people would feel this way)?! Because I’m definitely getting (2000s Archie) SonAlly vibes from this
Alberto Productions, I dare you to do a parody of Francis’ rant of the FTC, with a face of Peni Parker on it to trick people to think it is a kids video in the thumbnail. When it really isn’t.
Ikr, one thing I forgot to talk about in my own review was how frustratingly good the graphics looked. Thinking of all the amazing stories that could be told beautifully with Disney’s tech is sad. It makes movies like this really feel like wasted potential.
Jimb0 SAME! The new Star Wars trilogy had a ton of potential. It really was sad watching that trilogy slowly collapse in on itself. Go check out Center Row’s Rise of Skywalker rewrite. It’s really good and fixes a lot of thematic issues I had with it.
Okay I’m late to the party but can we just talk about how the entire movie is about Anna being way more concerned about her blood related family (Elsa) who keeps shutting her out and leaving her alone to deal with responsibilities that they deem not important to their personal journey while ignoring and abandoning her chosen family (Kristoff) who has been beside her and helping her with anything despite his own personal opinions since they met? And he’s okay with it? And still wants to marry her? And Elsa leaves her again. Kristoff deserves way better and definitely more character development.
Kristoff needs to be the next twist villain if they do a frozen 3. Like the Kingdom is going shit for unknown reasons and Anna instead of trying to resolve it goes to search for Elsa. Kristoff, with the last action finally breaking him. Becomes a corrupt king and tells everyone what Anna did on their backs and that he was hiding because he loved her. Elsa and Anna come back but the problem was already solved by Kristoff and the people of Arendelle working together. Elsa dies stopping and arrow from afar trying to hit Anna (Maybe an arrow specifically made to go through Ice) and the confrontation happens. But yeah I don't think disney can do dark endings. I mean yeah they killed pedro in Encanto. But Pedro didn't gave then money like I don't know. Bruno
What was the point of Anna, Kristoff, Sven and Olaf coming anyway? I mean this is Elsa's journey of figuring out where her magic came from, the magical forest and meeting the natives. Not like the other characters didn't have a story of their own in the first film.
Frozen 1 and 2 combined just make up Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings Magic sister with ice powers? check Not supposed to see each other? check Stress on seasons and elements? check Snow? check Purple flower? check Absence of parents? check need I say more?
I kind of hate how they romanticized and glorified Anna and Elsa’s parents here. Like, the scene in Show Yourself where Elsa’s mother is being all caring and nobly calling her daughter to “come home” and it’s supposed to be this sweet moment. But like..her parents weren’t really the best people? And I feel like Disney is trying to brush over the fact that these parents isolated their children from the rest of society, made Anna feel left out and ignored for her entire life, like no one truly loved her so she immediately fell for the first guy to show her attention. They made Elsa feel like she was a dangerous monster that had to keep her true self hidden, made her keep all of her feelings and emotions pushed away, made her ignore her beloved sister, locked her away from everyone... they really weren’t the best parents.
In Frozen the parents could kinda get by on the idea that they didn't really know a ton about Elsa's power in theory so didn't leave any notes when they left but Frozen 2 dispels that myth and makes it truly incomprehensible why they didn't leave Elsa & Anna with some info, even a diary would have short circuited so much drama.
I think that while their parents definitely weren't doing the right thing by isolating them, they also didn't really know what to do. Raising kids is something that already has to be done basically on the fly, as you never really know what your kids are going to do or be capable of and you're not always going to know why either. Having a kid with potentially dangerous powers was probably not an easy thing for them to deal with, and it's likely that they thought they were acting in everyone's best interest by separating Anna and Elsa from each other, and from everyone else, until they could get more information (which they died attempting to do). I think Anna and Elsa's parents were ultimately extremely loving, but were afraid of what Elsa could do and didn't know how to handle it. Keeping in mind that neither of them had magical powers, neither of them would've known how to help Elsa control hers. It doesn't help that the rock troll chieftain guy suggested wiping Anna's memory, and I still don't understand that part, but the parents were doing the best with what very little they knew. It doesn't absolve them of their deeds, but it's understandable that Anna and Elsa would still love them.
The fact that Elsa's mom knew full well where her powers came from and didn't try to help her daughter AT ALL takes her and Elsa's father from "misguided mistake-makers" to "abusive assholes."
@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 Literally. This sequel makes them come across as villains in the original. Evil to know about your daughter's condition but never help her with it (and treat her like a monster).
**Kristoff sings an obvious parody of an 80's rock ballad** Schaffrillas: my favorite song in the movie was Kristoff's early 2000's boy band music video with reindeer
I came here to write this exact same thing lol. I guess I'm showing my age when I recognized this more as an 80s power ballad and not an early 2000s boy band song.
So glad you did a shoutout to Klaus, us the people working in 2D are so glad it exists and bring back this medium on the mainstream with a new exciting look :) one of my classmate worked on it and now everybody wants him on their team haha
John Cena lmao what. I don’t think the concept of the elements was ripped off, because it’s obviously not, but the whole thing about how her “ice bending” powers were actually what connected the elements (which is just nonsensical, how is solid water responsible for earth, fire, air *and water*) somewhat resembles the concept of the avatar, who controls one element from birth and then develops the other types of bending, then in the sequel they introduce the idea of Elsa being the bridge between the spirit world and humans, which is part of many myths and the definition of the avatar. So they made what already looks like a less skilled waterbender fulfill the role of the avatar. I don’t think it’d be far fetched to say they took inspiration from the show.
@@katitax508 Rofl, I tried to see things from your POV but I just can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. She didn't "connect" the elements, neither is she "bending" anything. Her powers were a gift from those spirits because mom saved dad. And she would eventually need to use it to free the forest and redeem humanity. The spirits were in existence long before she was born and will cont. to exist once she's dead. What "connection" did they need throughout all that time? And what sort of "bending" or control did she develop in this film? By the end of the film, she could communicate with the spirits telepathically and tell them to assist her with her tasks. That's it. She doesn't "bend" any of their powers herself. Also there was no "spirit world and human world" in this film. They coexist in the same world. The 5th spirit was defined as the bridge between humans and the magic of nature, but by the end of the film that definition takes on a whole new meaning when Elsa tells Anna "a bridge has 2 sides, and mother had 2 daughters." Implying collaboration and trust was the real fifth element. Now, what was that Avatar bs again? Sure your silly show had such a great influence on writers of a diff. company?
He gave the first Lego Movie a 9/10 and gave both Lego Batman and Lego Movie 2 a 6/10 on Letterboxd. He doesn't have Lego Ninjago rated yet. Probably hasn't seen it. Also his Letterboxd ratings are bizarre. He gave The Shining a 6/10 and 2001: A Space Odyssey an 8/10, when both are absolutely worthy of 10's IMO. He also recently rating the Lord of the Rings trilogy; He rated Fellowship a 6/10, Two Towers an 8/10, and Return of the King a 7/10, when all three deserve a 9 or 10 each. He also gave Dunkirk, Bridge of Spies, and Lincoln each a 4/10, which puzzled me too. I get that these are his opinions, but they're pretty puzzling opinions if you ask me.
@@aloolla73 yeah I already thought Frozen was a broken franchise because of something similar. The movie identifies as a princess movie, but focuses on the queen. But the queen doesn't really have character development, only that she's afraid of her powers. Maybe the focus would actually lie on the princess, but no, we also don't really get to know her. So after watching two movies, I feel like I still don't know almost anything thing about those people
“Kristoff’s early 2000’s boyband song” it was an 80’s love ballad parody. It even starts with the guitar form Love Hurts, and had a bohemian rhapsody moment. Not tilted just mentioning
Let's not forget that Elsa was crowned with a big ceremony and Anna was crowned on the street... Edit: I get that they most probably skipped the coronation and she's just visiting the people, but it's still kinda off to me I mean the queen is making an appearance and in the whole kingdom about 15 people show up to greet her.
I’m sorry, but Elsa being born with ice powers as a reward for her mother is something Anna comes up with to console ger. It’s just her interpretation of the situation. Nothing in the Ato..Alto...Aht...frozen river glacier place confirms that. The scene is about Elsa realizing that there’s no special magic secret to making her life fulfilling. She’s not missing anything - she can just go ahead and make her life whatever she wants it to be. The source of her powers seems to be the glacier island thing, but the reason as to why she was granted those powers remains unknown.
The best thing I ever saw for Elsa's powers was an aside in a fanfic about one of her ancestors being the Snow Queen - the _original_ snow queen from Hans Christian Anderson's story. It nicely explains her parents' cautious, fearful attitudes towards Elsa's powers and it was quite well put in the fic, I remember. And it's not dogwash fluff, like F2 tried to sell. That's my favorite idea and what I've adopted as my personal canon for it, myself. Edit: The fanfic is ''The Queen's Admiral'' by secretcastle. Very good, recommend it to anyone interested.
I mean that didn't really bother me too much, mainly because you could view it as yet another way Elsa puts herself down. But I agree, it's a weird throwaway moment for something that should be pretty significant.
@@EC-yw5hg I'm pretty sure OP meant that 13 year olds are badass because that's past the 0-12 demographic by ONE year so since they just turned 13 or whatever, they just barely passed TH-cam rules
I feel the movie would’ve really benefited from a “I’m different and have different needs, and that’s ok” angle. Like, the movie could’ve had a scene early on where Elsa explains to Anna how she’s too socially awkward and doesn’t fully grasp the interpersonal aspects of being queen, like Anna does. Anna could explain later that Elsa’s powers “are a gift, we just need to find the best ways to utilize them”. This wouldn’t fix all the problems, but it would help and writers could branch off of that idea to fix other aspects of the film. If only they had more time to develop everything…
I feel like Elsa still hasn’t learned to be responsible. It’s frustrating that she is the main focus of the movie when she really doesn’t deserve to have these powers. She just does what she wants and Anna has to take all the responsibility that she lies down.
Yep. Like it or not you were born royalty and you have a responsibility to your people to be their leader. It would have been a better lesson to learn that sometimes you do things you don't necessarily want to for the good of OTHERS because you care about them. Instead elsa only runs away just like in the first movie where she left her kingdom in ruins in the hands of a psycho villain who nearly took over. She only cares about herself.
Yeah if you ignore both movies and watch the broadway musical adaptation, the story is so much better because Elsa actually learns to be responsible and she has a really good character arc.
EXACTLY!! shes just # girlbossing it in this movie and being dilutional and condescending "anna you dont get it its a magic thing, the voices told me to jump into a volcano anna, i can worry about you but you cant worry about me thats weird lol, anna im so importnant, anna i have a desteny" like okay bojack icewoman lol
Why would that matter, everyone is so insecure that they're afraid of watching or listening to a song, the memes and jokes were rehased, generic and weren't funny
@@zykrozy2441 Elsa: Oh, thank goodness I was alone on that mountain. If anyone heard me singing that song, I would never hear the end of it from Kristoff.
I found it lol, i thought she was being super attached to elsa. But i thought with all the stuff they went threw in the first movie Elsa wouldn't have just left and push anna away again. For again Anna's protection.
I hate this new trend of splitting up the characters so much. It usually flies out of nowhere and it just seems like a betrayal of all the past experiences the characters have had together.
Avengers Endgame Steve and Bucky, Wreck if Ralph 2 Ralph and Vanellope, Toy Story 4 (technically 3 too), How to Train Your Dragon 3 Berk and their dragons,, it's been happening a lot and I don't like it.
@@6thgraderfriends I actually loved the ending for HTTYD 3, And it made sense. Unlike the other movies where it felt really forced and made as a last resort "pls cry" ending
@@simonixen0762 Why? The Berkians could've gone with the dragons to The Hidden World and they will still be safe from bad guys. It retconed the first 2 films.
@@6thgraderfriends to be fair Toy Story 3 actually made sense because the 'splitting up' part was about a child growing up and letting go of his childhood.
They’re all ripping it straight from LotR. Also in HttyD I think they should have left it at the dragons leaving and cut out them seeing Toothless again. Kinda took the teeth out of the bittersweet.
Soul also ends with the main characters splitting up, but it all felt natural and I think that if Disney wants to do more stuff like that they should learn from Pixar
Well, the story is when you think of it, of 22 learning that life is beautiful and going on her journey, she needed to split up, in frozen 2 case it just... happens, Elsa just want to live in the forest
Schaffrilas: I'm glad this movie doesn't have a twist villain. Me: What about the grandpa that caused the problems? Edit: He explained in the Tamatoa video that it's because the grandpa was already dead before the events of the movie.
And that little cape thing she has serves no purpose and it's ugly it doesn't need to be on the dress or the coat, they were both fine as is they didn't need that weird thin ass "cape" That is just magically hanging onto the back with no support and it's see through did I mention that it's ugly?
Well part 1 was also supposed to end with Elsa regaining controll of her powers ... while the first scene in part 2 that depicts adult Elsa shows her losing controll of her powers for a moment.
@@RespectedGamer72 Ok, granted, but then again in the first movie she tells Anna she cannot marry a guy she just met and turns out to be right, yet now she decided to forever stay and live with a whole tribe she just met. Still a "no lessons were learned from the first movie".
Celediev i dont know if that applies really.. I mean it’s not a “tribe she just met”, her mother was one of them once and theyre the people that believe in “magic” and all the other spirits live around them.. I think it would only make sense for her to stay there.
@@Celediev A marriage plot feels so out of place in a kids movie. Like the kids I know aren't thinking about the hardships of proposing... (and the first movie being funny about it too, it's like why include that?)
Oh my god me and my friends were laughing so hard. Then, I made a joke that when olaf "died" he was snapped away by thanos and that the scene looked familiar and my friends started bursted out laughing.
The entire movie was saying that Anna and Elsa should stick together, they even say it right before they just randomly decide that splitting up is best. It’s really out of left field and it’s so random
@@roiitzkovich4545 the movie is NOT about accepting changes. It's about freeing a magic forest from spirits who don't like to solve problems themselves much like Elsa does with Anna in the first movie. And if anything, splitting them up should be giving them both more anxiety since all of their trauma came from them being apart in the first place. If anything, being apart would cause them more trouble.
@@lilmissbacon Thats an idiotic interpretation. It is indeed a film about changes and Annas arc revolved around it. From Some Things Never Change to The Next Right Thing, Anna went from wanting to change to having to accept the changes forced upon her and making the next step in spite of it. The spirits dont know the cause of the problem. The glacier did, and since humans from her bloodline were the cause of the problem she had to pay reparations for it and fix it. Also why would a 24 year old and a 21 year old who is engaged to someone have to live in the same physical location? Are they incestuous? What is this anxiety you speak of? Did you miss the end of the first film? Did you miss the ride the 24 year old had at the end of the second film which allowed her to be in Arendelle in under a minute if she so wished? Did you miss all the clues pointing to her enjoying a life away from the place she grew up fearing for the better part of her life across 2 films? If so thats on you. Not the filmmakers.
@@killingzonewarcraft6464 dude I did not ask for a summary of the movie. I've seen it plenty of times and prefer it over the first, in fact. There were no clues about her enjoying a life away from Arendalle, just that she didn't feel at place there. And she never feared Arendalle, she feared her powers, there's a strong difference. And I do understand that the movie is SUPPOSED to be about change but there's so many different themes and side plots that it becomes scrambled within the movie and only focuses the 'changes plot' on Anna alone. And this anxiety I speak of is the reason why Anna and Elsa are so over protective of each other that it has them make questionable decisions. Why Elsa felt the need to give Anna the best birthday party (in the animated short) despite her health, because her anxiety makes her feel that she needs to make up for lost time. All of this exists because they were apart for 13 years. And afterwards, they've only been able to really be sister's for only 3 years. Over time, their anxiety (or at least Elsa's) would start to make them feel alone all the time even if their surrounded. P.s. Anna is 22
@@lilmissbacon So you remember the first one? Doesnt sound like it. You claim she never feared Arendelle, though technically Pabbies conduct of the Northern Lights to 8-year old Elsa displayed people with pitchforks attacking her some time in the future. This was the impetus her parents had to conceal her powers from the Arendellian public. Not sure what these different themes and side plots are that makes you so confused about change. 4 characters underwent some degree of growth in this film; the sisters, Kristoff and Olaf. Mattias and Sven had minor supportive roles though neither really changed and the Northuldrans were mainly exposition vehicles. Speaking of anxiety, while they were indeed anxious for the safety of each other during the journey this was not what you were referring to originally. You claimed "splitting them up should be giving them both more anxiety since all of their trauma came from them being apart in the first place." I disagreed with that in particular, because they weren't exactly anxious about Elsa losing control of her powers since the first film ended. At the end of this film, Elsa has perfect control and now has an avenue to master her powers at the place she feels she is truly meant to be while Anna is happily engaged and ruling her beloved kingdom (not that Elsa didnt love her kingdom, she was a great Queen but had a deep-seated desire to be in a different place, hence ITU). In addition, Elsa has a ride. An incredibly quick one. Who exactly is anxious about whom here? Anna's letter to her didn't sound anxious in the slightest. I'm not sure there's any evidence pointing to anxiety being the factor that motivated her to hold a birthday party for Anna in the short. It could be that she is simply making up for lost time. P.S.: I dont know if Annas 22nd birthday has passed by the end of the 2nd film, hence why I decided to go with 21.
I actually felt like Anna and Elsa's dynamic didnt change much after they left arendelle. It felt like it still needed to be mended, which is FINE if we got to see Elsa grow to overcome her depression with Anna. But Elsa just continued to push Anna away (and I'm happy anna got a scene saying she was upset about that.) I wish that idea was more explored and Elsa understood that family was the answer or something.
I think it would highly benefit the movie if Arendelle was destroyed and they’d have to relocate. It would give Anna experience and have them all rebuild and help recover from the past. Also they could have built up to the sisters splitting up, as it was just at the moment like it was thrown in last second
THANK YOU! Every time I tell something like this to one of my friends that saw the movie with me they act as if I were unable to grasp some extremely obvious clue -_-
They couldn't figure out why building the dam by grandfather as a decoy for the attack on the magical tribe was stupid. The expense, waste of resources and labor was not necessary when a birthday cake and pinata would of done the same trick.
And them splitting up had no consequences and had no real purpose. It wasn't sad like in toy story 4, they could visit SO easily, and they were both PERFECTLY happy with their decision.
@@fanpet3912 I agree the emotions seemed forced. They had no adversary in the film. Next movie they need a real villain with a plot twist or 2 like in the first Frozen. Not Casper the spirit that actually mom. That was lame.
This is a classic case of "You should never make a sequel story of a stand-alone story". This is also for Ralph Breaks the Internet. Both films really messed up with their plot and espeically loss of character identity.
I think the thing that really stuck out for me is that Anna is so incestuously attached to her sister that her boyfriend is nothing more than an afterthought for her. He's spending the whole movie trying just to get a moment alone with her, but Anna can't think about literally anything other than her sister. After being completely abandoned, Kristoff pours his heart out, to _nobody,_ during Lost In The Woods. Just like always there's nobody there to hear it. He's got serious questions and doubts about whether Anna even loves him because it's abundantly clear he is not a priority to her, because he's not her sister and that's the only thing that makes her world spin. And then when he saves her? None of that is ever brought up again. He doesn't mention it because they're in the heat of the moment, but there's never a moment afterwards where he says, "Hey, we need to talk. I have some concerns about our relationship." He is delegated to "man whose thoughts and feelings don't matter" at the beginning, and despite all the pain he's feeling, he's put back in that slot at the end. I guess it works out because Elsa moves and now Anna's got nobody else so now he's literally the king (which wasn't even something he wanted). But I've seen people call it brave. That it's really a break away from the norm. "Wow, look, the man has a number about how he feels." But then the man decides that since nothing he's said so far mattered, he may as well not confront the person who's hurting him, because it's not like it'd make a difference anyway.
And it's such a blatant slap in the face. Seriously, and Disney praises itself with messages saying "Boys need to open up more" "they need their feelings to be heard" or something like that. And yet, they do it to their most famous prince.
@@Ruffgi They did kristoff dirty in the second movie. They saved like he didn't exist. Anna and elsa are both pretty flawed characters. Anna is clingy, shower is so focused on not losing anyone else that she is pushing people away. Elsa is doing the exact same thing in the first movie trying to run away from her problems wanted not talk to anyone about it. Like for me they will be pretty hard to be around
Yeah, they really did Kristoff dirty. I understand how Anna acted though, she's trying to catch up on years of emotional separation with Elsa, and she probably feels more stable with Kristoff than with Elsa (who she's afraid of losing). The only problem is (like what you've already said) that this was never even addressed, even a bit. Kristoff just suddenly proposing left a bad taste in my mouth. Like, they're not even going to address these problems before jumping right to commitment? Kind of a bad message to convey.
@@ellieval206 I think the worst part of it is, is that he clearly thinks about bringing it up, but then chooses not to, because they're "stronger than that". WHAT?!
@@elizabethsullivan7021 freaking thank you. But I honestly get the feeling that Anna can't leave Elsa, even if she wants to go the bathroom. Alongside that, I think that Kristoff spent most of his time on the stables with Sven, in the town with the people or in the market, but not with Anna, since she's too attached to her sister It wouldn't be hard to imagine said scenario (also, the way they portrayed Anna and Elsa's relationship is weird and downright obnoxious).
This is a theory of my own. I think the parents actually died because of their misuse of Elsa's "gift". They locked her up instead of letting her live and celebrate the powers she was enchanted with. The spirits took this in offense, which led to their deaths. The cause of the death could have easily been the water horse, as well. Seeing how the water reacted to Elsa in the second movie, before she tamed the spirit, was the same way it behaved in the first movie during the ship scene. The water was rambunctious and unforgiving until understood. The sea the parents were traveling was connected to Ahtohallan. This is also where the horse mostly resides. The death makes perfect sense with the context of the second film.
@@SPYgirl199812 but when king agnarr told the story he said the spirits were gone and elsa said that I accidentally woke the magical spirits of the forests?
@@shaistanazneen3832 The spirits seem to be active in the forest still though? Like the earth giants I don't know if this is what Disney meant, but I took what Elsa did as her bringing the spirits to the kingdom Honestly I'd have to rewatch the scene
@@shaistanazneen3832 I don't think Elsa could have known what she was talking about. Her knowledge was based on a story from years ago and at the point when she says that (I think) she hasn't explored the forest much.
It would be better but Disney doesn’t really have the balls to show someone relatively good at the beginning of the story be evil let alone it being a Disney princess
I think this describes this movie perfectly: Me clicks on this* "Its ok I haven't seen this yet idc" Halfway thru the video* "OH shit I have seen this" Movie so bad I pushed it out of my brain.
Frozen 2 makes it obvious that Frozen was supposed to be a single film. This definitely was made because of the moola. Sucks it didn't have a better story and this movie just make Elsa and Anna's parents look even worse. They knew of this enchanted land, but they couldn't explain it to Elsa and instead, locked her away causing mental and psychological scarring topped with anxiety and depression and causing her to have terrible social ineptness? They're evil. I was hoping before seeing the film that it was going to focus on Elsa reconnecting with her sister and maybe making a genuine friend or showing that she made progress but still slowly opening up. Can't think of anything for Anna and Kristoff.
if elsa had more character development it would’ve been better like you said if she made a friend that would’ve helped too also in the 1st movie she just pushed her sister away then told her she couldn’t do that 2nd movie she does it AGAIN like... are you dumb? and also the parents were horrible this was so random lol
I had an idea for a sequel that I considered making as a fanfiction where an ice witch (like the one Elsa was supposed to be) appears in the kigdom and conquers it, freezing Anna and Kristoff. Elsa consults the rock trolls and finds out she needs someone with fire powers to defeat the witch. So she would go on a journey to find that person, which would be someone like she was, a guy who isolates himself to not hurt people. Elsa helps him cope with his loses and convinces him to help, they defeat the witch with the power of love and friendship and everyone gets a happy ending.
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I feel like it’s a strong point that I went to see Frozen 2 in the theaters with my 3 year old sister, and when Olaf died, she leaned towards me and whispered “He’s not really dead, he’s gonna come back”. That says a LOT about the expectations Disney sets up for its movies.
To be fair, Olaf is a *snowman* . They’re pretty hard to kill unless you decide never to build them ever again.
Yeah if even 3 YEAR OLDS can tell, that should be saying a lot of about it
@Disney
Yyep. I realised that at a fairly young age as well, though it was older than three.
When I saw a foreign-made movie at my relative's house, the protagonists were dying, and I remember thinking that they would live. I was shocked and sad when they didn't. Which, yes, understandable to be sad. But "movie characters weren't supposed to die." It sets up unrealistic expectations for children in both film and real life, to make sure the only losers are the villains and the protagonists live.
I’m so sick of characters being brought back from the dead or never having died in the fight place but the media making you think they did. This isn’t a problem with Disney alone. It’s come to the point that nearly no death phases me anymore, all because of a million fake deaths. Like, listen. Some people are just dead. Plain and simple. No coming back. It’s painful and awful, but it happens. Fake deaths make real deaths look like a goddamn joke
they are so predictable lol (especially the ones that are made for younger kids)
I thought it’d be like Thor: Ragnorok
“Arendelle isn’t a place. It’s a people”
JB Saber I mean their both based in Norse Mythology somewhat so yeah
I was also waiting for that..
Then Thanos comes in and kills them all, choking Anna to death in front of Elsa's eyes
@@thejedisonic67 Well he snapped Olaf out...
TheJediSonic no no no no no no don’t even remind me
“Frozen 2 is a movie that exists”
Me writing a book report like
It's a good reminder cuz I keep forgetting that it's a thing
You aren't wrong. *A+*
Well you’re already off to a bad start considering frozen isn’t a book lmao
Bel Sheahan Issa joke
lol
“A couple who emotionally traumatised their daughter per the request of SOME PEBBLES THEY FOUND IN THE WOODS” 😭😭😭
Sums them up perfectly!
That's for sure. And yet there some people that defend them for making the right choice or what would "you" have done scenario.
Ma man really called them pebble 🤣🤣😂😂
ikr😋😑
Lmao “pebble”
What if instead of Elsa’s powers being a blessing from the spirits they were actually a curse from something not-too-good her parents did before she was born. That way it explains why her powers are so dangerous, allows the characters to confront that their parents might have not been the best, and can give Elsa some cool character moments where she can use powers that are supposed to be a curse for good instead. I think it would also be interesting coz it could reflect how she was originally supposed to be the villain of the first movie since that’s how the original fairy tale was.
I can't believe you just put more thought into a story arc in 1 comment than an entire company managed to do in one script
Same here. You would think the spirits would be pissed at Elsa’s mom for saving some dude that was apart of the group of people who built the dam, but nah
My thoughts exactly dude. You would think the spirits would be pissed at Elsa’s mom for saving some dude that was apart of the group of people who built the dam, but nah
That would have been amazing!!!
Disney should hire you that would be a WAYYY better movie then what we got.
Elsa's crowning: big ceremony in the castle, formal
Anna's crowning: street
I think it wasn't not Anna's coronation day but just the inauguration of the statues. If it was actually Anna's coronation day, the worst thing was that Elsa didn't even show up.
stonks
It wasn't her coronation ....
Shes more down to earth so it makes sense
Is that Kyle
“Frozen was supposed to be a one and done”
“But then money happened”
*But then money happened*
Frankorious money happening is TIGHT
And merchandising
@@migaloo364 k
When did money happen ?
Frozen 2 was just Anna being unheathily obsessed with Elsa, Elsa lowkey trying to run away from her and poor Kristoff third-weeling them (like always) for 1 hour 43 minutes straight.
Why was she obsessed with Elsa..? I'm curious
@@yohelpineedausername5908 no idea D:
@@yohelpineedausername5908 Because she adores Elsa. She sees her as a role model. But they were kept separated for years. As much as it must have been hard for Elsa, it must have been hard for Anna too. She beggs and beggs to play to meet her sister, but keeps getting ignored by her. Someone she loves keeps rejecting her. No matter how hard Anna tries, no matter what she does, she never gets to feel loved by her. Thats suffering. She keeps waiting for the moment when she can finally met her sister. And when the time comes, her sister is no different than an ice cube. Acting very cold to Anna and keeping everything inside.
Edit: Also, younger sisters mostly have an obsession with their older sisters. It is because they grow up seeing them as role models. They always want to impress them, feel loved by them and try to be like them. Do some further research :D
@@ImDoneArguingOnYTComments oh ok
I feel like no one ever brings that up. They may be sisters but I feel like Anna was just being to attached to the point where she’ll literally get herself killed just to be near her(like who TF runs into fricking fire?!)
Imagine living in Arendelle and live in constant fear of your queen having a mental breakdown and destroy the entire place
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big f for the citizens
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I'd be fine with the movie being a bit longer so they could pace the ending better, I was still tryna process wtf happened while the end credits were rolling
Same. I looked my mom in the eyes when Anna became queen and said
“I don’t like that”. I like Elsa more as queen, even tho she doesn’t feel it’s the right place. Good movie tho *shrug*
Imo they shouldve just skipped all the "But Elsa youre my sister I cant leave you I love you" scenes, it happened like 5 times and the movie became so boring because of it
M0chaKinz agreed. Apparently the one thing the writer wanted in the movie was “queen anna”. Terrible execution at actually leading to that though, the plot was 99% irrelevant to it.
Yeah it felt like the movie was going at breakneck speed but almost nothing was happening.
Very true, oddly enough I was interested in the story but it didn't suit the usual Disney Animation format. I found it very rushed at th beginning and yes Olaf's story was funny and all but let's be honest that was a quick, cheap way to continue the plot. Another thing is Arrendale should've been destroyed and I don't even blame the writers for this, Disney probably looked at the final product and changed it to a happy ending.
she is not wearing a dress, her skin just does that.
Wait, so she's technically naked?
that kinda bothered me throughout the last third/half of the movie lol. wtf even is her clothing supposed to be
@@jacobali333 technicaly?
its a tattoo
yeah, why do her clothes have no depth??
That moment when you click on a video and the guy is stressing how much it's not for kids and you wonder wtf is going on until you remember everyone used to be scared of COPPA and it all makes sense
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Best thing was when I watched this movie with my parents I heard my mom say 'finaly' under her breath in the scene Olaf died
xD
Oh God no 😂😂😂
Same tho. I heard that he'd died, but then in the end to reveal his reincarnation! And then I was disappointed..
Mood
Dont tell anyone, but I hated olaf so much. Also film thory debunked that water had memory so olaf is a liar
*Everyone watching the trailer:* "Whoah, is Kristoff gonna become the leader of some kind of reindeer army?!?!"
*Everyone after the movie:* "Nevermind it was just Kristoff and a ton of reindeer with his voice singing about how dramatic his love life is."
They actually build anna and kristoff's relationship in the first movie, and it was actually sweet and meaningful but in the second movie, it was just anna brushing him off and ignoring him until he proposes then she cries? I feel like they could have done more to build on their new relationship together but they just didn't and it makes me sad.
@@mars5277 Yea there chemistry really fell apart in the second movie
Ik,Anna we get it you love your sister but you don't gotta follow her like a lost puppy and take a look at your surroundings?
I see this as an improvement
I feel bad for kristoff in the first movie I didn’t just see him as Anna love interest I saw him as his own character and individual but that’s all frozen 2 decided he was just Anna love interest
I really thought Arendelle was going to be washed away, a literal clean slate for them to rebuild their kingdom with the Northuldruns. But then again, not every movie can be Thor: Ragnarok. I mean, it's not like they had a pair of siblings, one who is stubbornly optimistic and the other has ice powers and they both learn about colonialism.
CyndiMi stolen right from tumblr
@@izzyobrien1081 just bc ppl have made comparisons of the two pairs of characters in the past doesn't mean i stole it, it just means a lot of other ppl thought the same thing regarding these two films.
Guys,stop fighting!
I was waiting for the line in the movie where one of the characters would say that Arendelle is not a place, it’s a people (or something along those lines)
That was the original plan for the movie. The first write movie was a lot darker, just like the first movie was supposed to be, but since it’s a kids movie they changed it to what we got.
"nobody was sad when olaf got thanos snapped"
my mom cried while me and my dad made fun of her
I cried too
mood but i was the one that made fun of my mom lol
@@cyber69420 lol
I'm fucking wheezing rn
My 20 year old sister cried and I was just bored.
Writters: "If theres a Frozen II Hans may have a redemption arc"
Aslo Writters: "Just throw Hans suck refrences in there"
NUGGET BRUH YES
I'm sad Hans wasn't in the sequel ☹
You edited this and missed "redention?"
NUGGET
Nugget, you have returned
Sugary Heaven Same, that would have actually been a story. Glad I didn't see this film.
So to be clear, as an adult, I am authorized to watch this?
I don't know, he wasn't very clear on the matter.
why is this comment from a day ago
As a 9 year old, I give you permission ^_^
*HOW* is this comment from a day ago?
Time traveler
Not to mention Elsa doesn’t show up for her sister’s coronation but can come to charades
RobotOak88 that’s literally what I was thinking at the end of the movie!! I thought maybe it might be cause she was getting coronated herself but 🤷♀️
The scene at the end wasn't her coronation, it was the reveal of her parents's new statue. If it was a coronation than where's the comer? Where's the party?
XD OMl the fact how poorly written this movie is, just makes me laugh at this point
@@bibbles8219 You not having the basic IQ to understand that isnt a coronation of any kind makes you the laughable one. The filmmakers aint losing any sleep, I promise you.
I think she did when she abdicated the throne so the royals had a private coronation in the castle.
I saw a ‘deleted scene’ with Elsa and Anna discovering the subjugation of the ethnic minority, including outlawing the use of their language. That, maybe combined with the environmental and societal issue of leaders extracting natural resources in a way that is harmful to said disenfranchised minority, could have been a good theme to explore, not to mention historically and currently poignant. They still could have had Anna dealing with the human side and Elsa dealing with the environmental side without the supernatural self-discovery plot.
Evil corporations like Disney didn't want to blow the lid off lol
Looks like someone discovered a thesaurus for the first time.
@@magicman205 HAHA I WAS THINKING THE SAME THUNG
No. Just no. No more social or political themes...
Ok but does anyone else think anna should've had that white streak of hair even if she did turn back to normal? I think that would be like a Piece of "even if we cause problems they can get better, there will always be something left behind, but we learned from it"
also it just looked neat
@@twinknecrosis yeah I thought so too
That's actually a good idea if I say so myself.
plus it looked great on her character design, you had to ruin the original design?
Kinda like Zukos scar
When my seven year old sister saw Olaf “dying” she legitimately got upset. I had to comfort her and say that no main protagonists that’s not a parent ever dies in a Disney movie.
I don't think you watched princess and the frog then.
totagamefull, when I saw that movie as a kid and the firefly died the person sitting behind me just said “thank god”.
the lion king tho
@@sergioandresbenitezhernand2542 "that's not a parent"
@@kiel183 Ellie from UP
I'm glad someone's mentioning how bad the "look how nice the parents were" thing was. They literally isolated their oldest child, resulting in her developing multiple mental illnesses, making the youngest think the oldest hated her, and basically making elsa's entire life revolve around self loathing and not hurting her sister. The parents sucked and Disney really want people to forget that :/ Instead of acknowledging that sure, they had the best intentions in mind but they were still awful parents.
Well
I would argue that having a walking reverse nuclear bomb as a daughter is hard, and not everyone is a Kent.
They are only "bad" cause they died. If they had lived, they could have helped elsa and anna.
deleted scene included them planning to tell anna about elsa after they returned from their trip, which they did not
There is an unreleased ending where their parents wanted to tell anna about elsa after their have returned but they died
@@f0restangel doesn't really have owt to do with my point but anyways. regardless, a lot of the damage was already done.
@@Psy_Ro reverse nuclear bomb
there are five elements, Earth, Fire, Air, Water, and the main one is ice.
“Wait what were those last elements?”
“Water”
“And what else?”
“Ice”
“Nope. No difference at all”
In Fairy Tail, Gray is an ice wizard, & Juvia is a water wizard
How original! :D
@@lisalegato0109 It's a little different there. Think of water as a basic element and ice is a subtype of it. Just like how surgeons specialize in surgeries about, for example the liver, etc, Gray specializes in the Ice subtype of Water Magic
Darkness, Light? I don't know even STEEL would make sense.
Lightning I don't know they kinda are extremely fast condensed fire blasts. But by that logic a lot of things would be fire. Fuck
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The intro is too real. TH-cam 2020 gonna hit real hard :(
Logan Buriak by 2020 TH-cam is gonna be a graveyard full of toy unboxing videos.
to think i turn 14 before then
Remember when the internet was fun and wasn't filled with censorship from companies or the government?
@@boss5718 what? That's exactly what TH-cam WON'T have, it's literally illegal
m.th-cam.com/video/yXPmHe2EU3Q/w-d-xo.html
These is why I say sometimes: "some Fanfics are better written "
though i enjoyed frozen 2 , that is so true i have seen some pretty good fanfiction in last few days
ay but f2 is still wonderful
@M C Mize maybe
But some tramautized me and made me cry
( *Stares at Forest Fic* )
I always get nervous when I hear the “13+” and then remember I am 16 and nearly a full fledged adult
I promise that never changes 🤣 I'm almost 27 and I still hesitate when websites ask if I'm 18+
Same- 😂
same 👁️👄👁️
@@bishounenbrat8171 LMFAOOOO 1900 🤣🤣🤣
I literally turned 20 yesterday and I feel like a fraud every time I have to show my ID to prove my age, I don’t think it ever stops 😂
Problems I had with Frozen 2:
- Like in the first movie, Anna's and Elsa's sister dynamic is so forced. Their whole relationship is just "i love you so much!" and "I can't lose you again!" The sisterly banter seems very fake, and I feel like their relationship was written by someone who had no idea of how familes work.
- Kristoff was dumped down into just being Anna's love interest. I'm sorry, but Kristoff is a great character. And it's a shame that the writers seem to have no idea what to do with him.
- Elsa's and Olaf's "death" was terribly unconvincing. No one believes for a second that the two most popular characters with most selling merchandise would die.
- The songs were okay but not spectacular. Even 'Into The Unknown' wasn't all that good. Idina Menzel did a great job with the vocals as always, and I liked the humming being incorporated into the song. But that's it.
- first movie: Elsa abandons her queen duties and runs away. second movie: Elsa abandons her queen duties and runs away. Like??? Are queens just allowed to go and love in a forest because they don't "belong" in their kingdom?
- The comedy was pretty weak. The first movie wasn't all that, but it had some decent humor elements to it.
- That whole elemental thing just confused me. Why is Elsa the fifth element? Isn't snow just frozen water?
Good parts of the movie:
- Kristoff.
Again, you're gone, off on a different path than mine
I'm left behind, wondering if I should follow
You had to go, and of course it's always fine
I probably could catch up with you tomorrow
But is this what it feels like to be growing apart?
When did I become the one who's always chasing your heart?
Now I turn around and find I am lost in the woods
North is south, right is left, when you're gone
I'm the one who sees you home, but now I'm lost in the woods
And I don't know what path you are on
I'm lost in the woods
Up till now the next step was a question of how
I never thought it was a question of whether
Who am I, if I'm not your guy?
Where am I, if we're not together forever?
Now I know you're my true north, 'cause I am lost in the woods
Up is down, day is night, when you're not there
Oh, you're my only landmark, so I'm lost in the woods
Wondering if you still care
But I'll wait for a sign that I'm on your path
'Cause you are mine
Until then, I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I'm lost in the woods
I REALLY agree with you on that first point. It’s why I didn’t like the first one at all.
Fr I lost any positive feelings for it when it tried to sell me the idea that Olaf and Elsa totally died. Like, if you're gonna have the balls to kill off a character in a multi-billionaire franchise you should COMMIT to it, damn it.
Forced? How the first movie made sense.
Anna should’ve been the 5th spirit, the spirit of love. It would’ve been such a Disney thing to do. Besides...ICE IS WATER
YES! I AGREE FULLY.
@Sergio Pineda You just made me laugh so hard
When another state of matter is a element….
Kaboom Planet
I mean, they did? Elsa said at the end that she AND Anna were the spirit of love.
the fact that kristoff and ryder had more chemistry during a scene where kristoff is planning to PROPOSE to anna is hilarious
They only had chemistry because they both had the same interest talking for reindeer
thats more than what anna and kristoff had in common
@@labale1455 ok you have a point I blame the writers for that.....but maybe what they had in common was developed feelings for each other.....but I hate to say it but I agree with you on that...I apologise
LOL
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one who thought that...
Kristoff’s original character arc was going to be him becoming a lord and HATING it but not wanting to admit it to Anna until he was forced to and Anna discovered he’d been lying to her the whole time, which is honestly a much more entertaining arc than... wacky proposal struggles and I’m kind of disappointed they didn’t include it
Wacky proposal troubles? Reminds me of Ice Age
RIGHT!!! I loved the deleted scenes about him being a lord and the song "Get This Right."
This is the plot of shrek 2 lol
Killermudkip1 I’ve never watched shrek 2 so I wouldn’t know 🤷♀️ look it up if you think I’m messing with you
Killermudkip1 no shriek 3. Shrek 2 is about fiona’s parents thinking that she married a price charming instead of Shrek
"Disney will never be as good as dreamworks when it comes to sequels"
Because Dreamworks takes risks.Know that this studio got complaints from parents because of kung fu panda 2,a Sequel that includes Genocide,Homicide,and Suicide.
It is just...Dreamworks stories even if they are fanstasies are so real.MAGICAL REASLISM.that the story had so much sense even for a dark content.
I agree. Dreamworks >>>>>>>> Disney.
yes! dreamworks also knows when its a bad time to make a joke!
example: during httyd 2 at the part with stoicks’ ship, dreamworks could EASILY have made hiccup miss the ship with his fire arrow for a “haha he missed” kinda joke, but they didn’t, and i’m glad they didn’t cause it made the scene soooo much better. Disney just horribly fails at knowing when and when not to make jokes, and that failure is what is sort of destroying the MCU as we know it.
And currently, they did with PIB:TLW
@@jocelantonettetenoc5996 Wonder if Dreamworks is gonna be the more succesful animation studio this year?
Suicide?
literally no one:
Elsa: *shift + deletes a tsunami*
XD
I argued with my mom about where the water went. She said ‘in the ocean’ and I said ‘but the water would get higher and would at least cover some low buildings’ ‘ YoU’Re NoT LiStEnInG It GoEs InTo ThE OcEaN’
plus the ice would’ve melted lol
😂
LMAO
*Elsa misses her sister’s coronation after her sister talks about being together the entire film* ...
Anna - “you can’t miss charades on Friday”
Emma Kenyon I mean... Can we blame Elsa who also ran away from her own? Lmao
Mean Girls much?
Emma Kenyon I relate to this so badly. To be honest I liked the way the movie ended, since it’s clear that both sisters are still connected and will still be seeing each other a lot, but Elsa missing Anna’s coronation really bugged me.
It wasn't her coronation it was just saying presenting Queen Ana in the town
it really wasn't her corneration
Olaf: “Everything is terrible at least they have their parents!”
Also Olaf: *THEIR PARENTS ARE DEAD*
Me: *damn*
My fav part
Only good scene on the movie
@Mike Man, those poor Baudelaire kids...
heckin best joke of the whole movie
Yeah we all saw.
I found hilarious how Anna was crushed when Elsa send her and Olaf away in the ice boat, but she fucking did the same with Kristoff when they ditched him in the forest. And when Olaf dies, her thoughts at the time were about Elsa and the fucking snowman, nowhere in her dialogue was Kristoff mentioned at all. I feel bad for the guy, he bothered to do this setting with the reindeers only to get abandoned in the middle of the forest with some old soldiers that probably smell like piss because they are still wearing the same fucking uniforms 30 years later.
Pac-Man and the rest of the Pac-Man characters in their Pac-Man World 2 designs are the only things that could smell the more like piss. XD
But in all seriousness, though, right?! And yet people (whether they love this movie or think that while it’s not “terrible, stop lying” like 24 Frames of Nick would claim (I don’t think Frozen 2 is that bad, just mixed because the production is way greater than the writing which is far below Walt Disney Animation Studios’ usual standards as a powerhouse) act like Anna (alongside) was justified of obsessing over Elsa as if she was worse in the second movie than in the first movie (which makes it partially understandable why people would feel this way)?! Because I’m definitely getting (2000s Archie) SonAlly vibes from this
Because we can't have a man come between them, right?
“Chicken Little is a Cinematic Achievement”
YES
Alberto Productions, aren’t you the person who did a YTP on the THX Tex 2 trailer?
Yes.
It is though.
Alberto Productions, I dare you to do a parody of Francis’ rant of the FTC, with a face of Peni Parker on it to trick people to think it is a kids video in the thumbnail. When it really isn’t.
8 yr olds watching this be like,
“Well crap”
Reported you for not using a *CHILD* *FRIENDLY* WORD
okay maybe not
@@lucascarrero3819 °__________°
I HAVENT WATCHED IT YET AND I GOT SPOILERED SOOO MUCH FROM GERMAN STUPID COMMENTS UNDER TIKT TOKS
@@haticeseren7461 MOOOOOOD
IM 12 AND I HAVE NO REGRETS
Let’s be honest, Disney worked more on the graphics more than the actual story.
Ikr, one thing I forgot to talk about in my own review was how frustratingly good the graphics looked. Thinking of all the amazing stories that could be told beautifully with Disney’s tech is sad. It makes movies like this really feel like wasted potential.
Jimb0 SAME! The new Star Wars trilogy had a ton of potential. It really was sad watching that trilogy slowly collapse in on itself.
Go check out Center Row’s Rise of Skywalker rewrite. It’s really good and fixes a lot of thematic issues I had with it.
That's why frozen 2 failed. Except it made big bucks but will you care for it a year from now
@Jimb0 did you like the first movie???
Lol
Okay I’m late to the party but can we just talk about how the entire movie is about Anna being way more concerned about her blood related family (Elsa) who keeps shutting her out and leaving her alone to deal with responsibilities that they deem not important to their personal journey while ignoring and abandoning her chosen family (Kristoff) who has been beside her and helping her with anything despite his own personal opinions since they met? And he’s okay with it? And still wants to marry her? And Elsa leaves her again. Kristoff deserves way better and definitely more character development.
Kristoff needs to be the next twist villain if they do a frozen 3. Like the Kingdom is going shit for unknown reasons and Anna instead of trying to resolve it goes to search for Elsa.
Kristoff, with the last action finally breaking him. Becomes a corrupt king and tells everyone what Anna did on their backs and that he was hiding because he loved her.
Elsa and Anna come back but the problem was already solved by Kristoff and the people of Arendelle working together. Elsa dies stopping and arrow from afar trying to hit Anna (Maybe an arrow specifically made to go through Ice) and the confrontation happens.
But yeah I don't think disney can do dark endings. I mean yeah they killed pedro in Encanto. But Pedro didn't gave then money like I don't know. Bruno
I liked the movie, but not gonna lie, this movie was Disney flexing their animation skills on other studios
Right?!
SpindleHorse will always be better a better animation studio.
Animations skills not story telling
S - samantha...? Is t - that you...?
(Sorry)
Yes
Frozen 2 felt like just an episode in a series. Like "Woah it's Anna and Elsa on one of their whacky adventures again. Oh boy!"
It sounds to me like a bunch of TV show episodes spliced together pretending to be a movie.
Its was like a plus to the first One.
@@artbytesia The Last Airbender movie lol
What was the point of Anna, Kristoff, Sven and Olaf coming anyway? I mean this is Elsa's journey of figuring out where her magic came from, the magical forest and meeting the natives. Not like the other characters didn't have a story of their own in the first film.
Omg you're right. It's even got the B-plot where Kristoff worries about his relationship.
Frozen 1 and 2 combined just make up Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings
Magic sister with ice powers? check
Not supposed to see each other? check
Stress on seasons and elements? check
Snow? check
Purple flower? check
Absence of parents? check
need I say more?
Why do I remember watching that movie as a kid holy shit
Tinkerbell was better
@@pendragonqueen0956 YES
I remember watching that and enjoying that better than frozen 2 (I watched it like 6 years ago)
Except secrete of the wings was a quality movie
"Giant titans breaking giants walls"
Seems awfully familiar
attack on titan is what i assume you are thinking of.
@@thegamingdino907 no hes talking about bob the builder
I kind of hate how they romanticized and glorified Anna and Elsa’s parents here. Like, the scene in Show Yourself where Elsa’s mother is being all caring and nobly calling her daughter to “come home” and it’s supposed to be this sweet moment. But like..her parents weren’t really the best people? And I feel like Disney is trying to brush over the fact that these parents isolated their children from the rest of society, made Anna feel left out and ignored for her entire life, like no one truly loved her so she immediately fell for the first guy to show her attention. They made Elsa feel like she was a dangerous monster that had to keep her true self hidden, made her keep all of her feelings and emotions pushed away, made her ignore her beloved sister, locked her away from everyone... they really weren’t the best parents.
In Frozen the parents could kinda get by on the idea that they didn't really know a ton about Elsa's power in theory so didn't leave any notes when they left but Frozen 2 dispels that myth and makes it truly incomprehensible why they didn't leave Elsa & Anna with some info, even a diary would have short circuited so much drama.
The dad was a monster but i cant see how you're blaming the mother when the father was super aggressive about his decisions?
@@kingkylie9655 Well, she played a part in creating the damage within her children by not saying anything and speaking up.
I think that while their parents definitely weren't doing the right thing by isolating them, they also didn't really know what to do. Raising kids is something that already has to be done basically on the fly, as you never really know what your kids are going to do or be capable of and you're not always going to know why either. Having a kid with potentially dangerous powers was probably not an easy thing for them to deal with, and it's likely that they thought they were acting in everyone's best interest by separating Anna and Elsa from each other, and from everyone else, until they could get more information (which they died attempting to do).
I think Anna and Elsa's parents were ultimately extremely loving, but were afraid of what Elsa could do and didn't know how to handle it. Keeping in mind that neither of them had magical powers, neither of them would've known how to help Elsa control hers.
It doesn't help that the rock troll chieftain guy suggested wiping Anna's memory, and I still don't understand that part, but the parents were doing the best with what very little they knew. It doesn't absolve them of their deeds, but it's understandable that Anna and Elsa would still love them.
@@wincohi Finnally someone who has a brain
1:23 "I was really into the first hour"
In other words,
"they had me in the first half not gonna lie"
Samuel Jett maybe if it was a 2 hour film than that meme would work
I live for this comment 😂
“this is made for adults”
*gets a Barbie ad*
I got polly pocket. Oops lol.
victorionious same I was like what’s happening TH-cam you don’t want kids using it but you give ads for kids
I also got a freaking barbie ad
F
I got a Polly Pocket ad lol
People of Arendelle: *builds a dam*
The spirits: *"...and I took that personally."*
Finally someone else who realized how toxic their parents are like seriously
The fact that Elsa's mom knew full well where her powers came from and didn't try to help her daughter AT ALL takes her and Elsa's father from "misguided mistake-makers" to "abusive assholes."
@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 oh yeah for sure
@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 Literally. This sequel makes them come across as villains in the original. Evil to know about your daughter's condition but never help her with it (and treat her like a monster).
The fact that the parents, called it as a cursed, instead of a gift make it even worse 💀
omgosagniogjaskg i love your pfp
junji ito is so fucking talented
**Kristoff sings an obvious parody of an 80's rock ballad**
Schaffrillas: my favorite song in the movie was Kristoff's early 2000's boy band music video with reindeer
Visible confusion
Exacty. I was like this was more Chiacgo than Backstreet boys.
I came here to write this exact same thing lol. I guess I'm showing my age when I recognized this more as an 80s power ballad and not an early 2000s boy band song.
It seems that Noone can really decide what Era it's supposed to parody. At first I thought 90s, some say 80s and then some say 2000s.
The song is actually supposed to be a mix of all that so he's not wrong
The best part of the whole movie:
"Their parents were dead"
-Olaf 2019
DarkJ33 _samantha?_
@@ctraye6293 "who the hell is that"
Frozen 2013-
Frozen Fever 2015-
Olaf’s Adventure 2017-
Frozen ll 2019-
New frozen film 2021 I’m assuming.
@@jaaz_fr4318 aight
I enjoyed most of it but, yeah, Pretty much.
This movie is so forgettable that I didn't even realize the fact that it is 1 year old.
3 years old now
@@kieranstark7213 3 years.
@@goiabexp What movie is this again?
Frozen 3: Anna is accused of murdering Elsa in the woods for the throne, and is imprisoned/executed.
That never happend
@@sararomerocovers7096 They never said it did
Then Anna magically comes back with the magical powers of magic
Dark.. xd
Sounds good
"frozen 2 is a movie that exists"
*Hmm yes, it seems this floor is made out of the floor*
@Alan Ventura *_hmm yes, this comment is a comment_*
People die when they are killed
*I fall asleep when I'm sleeping*
@@nitrus1933 Just because you're right doesn't mean you are correct
Nope, the floor is lava.
Now, If you excuse me, I'll get the hell out of here asap.
Elsa cringing at " let it go" was priceless
That will forever be engraved in my memory
@@chipperklipper7859 same when Let it go came out in the movie it was a meh song then it became hell when they keep replaying it over the years
Velvet Darksoul Let It Go is a bop I don’t even want to hear it XD
@@chipperklipper7859 LET IT NOOOOO!!
@@leilahp.9829 I think it was the animators' way of poking fun at the oversaturation of the song
So glad you did a shoutout to Klaus, us the people working in 2D are so glad it exists and bring back this medium on the mainstream with a new exciting look :) one of my classmate worked on it and now everybody wants him on their team haha
This movie felt like Disney was watching Avatar the Last Airbender for the first time whilst snorting up pixie dust...
Imagine thinking a silly tv series the writers probably never saw invented the four elements. The delusion.
John Cena lmao what. I don’t think the concept of the elements was ripped off, because it’s obviously not, but the whole thing about how her “ice bending” powers were actually what connected the elements (which is just nonsensical, how is solid water responsible for earth, fire, air *and water*) somewhat resembles the concept of the avatar, who controls one element from birth and then develops the other types of bending, then in the sequel they introduce the idea of Elsa being the bridge between the spirit world and humans, which is part of many myths and the definition of the avatar. So they made what already looks like a less skilled waterbender fulfill the role of the avatar. I don’t think it’d be far fetched to say they took inspiration from the show.
@@katitax508 Rofl, I tried to see things from your POV but I just can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. She didn't "connect" the elements, neither is she "bending" anything. Her powers were a gift from those spirits because mom saved dad. And she would eventually need to use it to free the forest and redeem humanity. The spirits were in existence long before she was born and will cont. to exist once she's dead. What "connection" did they need throughout all that time? And what sort of "bending" or control did she develop in this film? By the end of the film, she could communicate with the spirits telepathically and tell them to assist her with her tasks. That's it. She doesn't "bend" any of their powers herself. Also there was no "spirit world and human world" in this film. They coexist in the same world. The 5th spirit was defined as the bridge between humans and the magic of nature, but by the end of the film that definition takes on a whole new meaning when Elsa tells Anna "a bridge has 2 sides, and mother had 2 daughters." Implying collaboration and trust was the real fifth element. Now, what was that Avatar bs again? Sure your silly show had such a great influence on writers of a diff. company?
Unpopular opinion: Frozen 2 is as bad as the Live action The Last Airbender movie. Fight me
That's too far lol
Still waiting until Schaff finally ascends and reviews the lego franchise.
Wait
*Is gonna ascend like gorb?*
The LEGO Batman Movie is the best one.
Lego Movie: Amazing
Batman Movie: Great
Ninjago Movie: People watched that one?
Lego Movie 2: Amazing
Lego starwars the complete saga gang rise up
He gave the first Lego Movie a 9/10 and gave both Lego Batman and Lego Movie 2 a 6/10 on Letterboxd. He doesn't have Lego Ninjago rated yet. Probably hasn't seen it.
Also his Letterboxd ratings are bizarre.
He gave The Shining a 6/10 and 2001: A Space Odyssey an 8/10, when both are absolutely worthy of 10's IMO. He also recently rating the Lord of the Rings trilogy; He rated Fellowship a 6/10, Two Towers an 8/10, and Return of the King a 7/10, when all three deserve a 9 or 10 each. He also gave Dunkirk, Bridge of Spies, and Lincoln each a 4/10, which puzzled me too. I get that these are his opinions, but they're pretty puzzling opinions if you ask me.
don’t get me wrong, i do like how elsa found her true self, but i don’t like how she left anna *again*
@jeonghan x yoongi Agreed
This is why i don't like Elsa
@@aloolla73 yeah I already thought Frozen was a broken franchise because of something similar. The movie identifies as a princess movie, but focuses on the queen. But the queen doesn't really have character development, only that she's afraid of her powers. Maybe the focus would actually lie on the princess, but no, we also don't really get to know her. So after watching two movies, I feel like I still don't know almost anything thing about those people
@@jonaswolthaus1901 Elsa doesn't have a character to develop, really.
@@Line... no but they could've given her a love interest or actually care about Anna. The audience doesn't really have the feeling she does
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Elsa decided to leave everyone behind and put them in danger in doing so again
0/10 this video isn’t “Ralph Breaks the Internet is a cinematic disaster” or “Over the Hedge is an underrated gem”
He did a video on that and said it was painfully average
@@christianciv1998
His opinions changed. He hates the movie now
Christianciv19 - He said he might do another video about it since he has grown to hate the movie now.
@@MegaSoulHero cool can't wait
Ha! Princess scene.
“Kristoff’s early 2000’s boyband song”
it was an 80’s love ballad parody. It even starts with the guitar form Love Hurts, and had a bohemian rhapsody moment.
Not tilted just mentioning
how could the two be confused
Well, I am mad
As an 80s enthusiast, it's definitely 80s
Definitely titlted
It sounded like a phill collins collab with *NSYNC
Let's not forget that Elsa was crowned with a big ceremony and Anna was crowned on the street...
Edit: I get that they most probably skipped the coronation and she's just visiting the people, but it's still kinda off to me I mean the queen is making an appearance and in the whole kingdom about 15 people show up to greet her.
Yeah i noticed that. There were only few people standing to see Anna.
Lol
And Elsa didn’t even show up...
Maybe she wanted it that way
Victoria Chea dude that’s messed up
I’m sorry, but Elsa being born with ice powers as a reward for her mother is something Anna comes up with to console ger. It’s just her interpretation of the situation. Nothing in the Ato..Alto...Aht...frozen river glacier place confirms that. The scene is about Elsa realizing that there’s no special magic secret to making her life fulfilling. She’s not missing anything - she can just go ahead and make her life whatever she wants it to be. The source of her powers seems to be the glacier island thing, but the reason as to why she was granted those powers remains unknown.
Didn’t they say that she was reward, a blessing bc her mother helped her father
The best thing I ever saw for Elsa's powers was an aside in a fanfic about one of her ancestors being the Snow Queen - the _original_ snow queen from Hans Christian Anderson's story. It nicely explains her parents' cautious, fearful attitudes towards Elsa's powers and it was quite well put in the fic, I remember. And it's not dogwash fluff, like F2 tried to sell. That's my favorite idea and what I've adopted as my personal canon for it, myself.
Edit: The fanfic is ''The Queen's Admiral'' by secretcastle. Very good, recommend it to anyone interested.
We can’t forget my man Olaf’s existential crisis
One of the best parts of the movie in my opinion lol.
That was so random and weird lol, but not in the good way
I-
God I thought it was hilarious
Without olaf this movie would be pretty boring
Remember when Elsa started feeling guilty for her parents' death in one scene, and it's never brought up again?
michaeljeff2 that annoyed me so much! Also, I instantly thought of once upon a time
I mean that didn't really bother me too much, mainly because you could view it as yet another way Elsa puts herself down.
But I agree, it's a weird throwaway moment for something that should be pretty significant.
Araki forgot
Bad writing, but you can't expect much from a film aimed at kids.
Jaden Yuki my boy did you beat Yugi in the final episode or not ?!
All these badass 13 year olds in Schaff’s comment section
I'm 15 thank you very much xD
Calling me out lol
What if I'm 13.11 years old
Funky Kong 0-12 is under 13. That doesn’t include being 13
@@EC-yw5hg
I'm pretty sure OP meant that 13 year olds are badass because that's past the 0-12 demographic by ONE year so since they just turned 13 or whatever, they just barely passed TH-cam rules
I feel the movie would’ve really benefited from a “I’m different and have different needs, and that’s ok” angle. Like, the movie could’ve had a scene early on where Elsa explains to Anna how she’s too socially awkward and doesn’t fully grasp the interpersonal aspects of being queen, like Anna does. Anna could explain later that Elsa’s powers “are a gift, we just need to find the best ways to utilize them”. This wouldn’t fix all the problems, but it would help and writers could branch off of that idea to fix other aspects of the film. If only they had more time to develop everything…
I feel like Elsa still hasn’t learned to be responsible. It’s frustrating that she is the main focus of the movie when she really doesn’t deserve to have these powers. She just does what she wants and Anna has to take all the responsibility that she lies down.
You share the same opinion as mine
Yep. Like it or not you were born royalty and you have a responsibility to your people to be their leader. It would have been a better lesson to learn that sometimes you do things you don't necessarily want to for the good of OTHERS because you care about them. Instead elsa only runs away just like in the first movie where she left her kingdom in ruins in the hands of a psycho villain who nearly took over. She only cares about herself.
Yeah if you ignore both movies and watch the broadway musical adaptation, the story is so much better because Elsa actually learns to be responsible and she has a really good character arc.
EXACTLY!!
shes just # girlbossing it in this movie and being dilutional and condescending "anna you dont get it its a magic thing, the voices told me to jump into a volcano anna, i can worry about you but you cant worry about me thats weird lol, anna im so importnant, anna i have a desteny" like okay bojack icewoman lol
At least Elsa hated herself singing “Let it Go.”
Elsa: Don't tell me I really used to sing that cringy song.
Why would that matter, everyone is so insecure that they're afraid of watching or listening to a song, the memes and jokes were rehased, generic and weren't funny
@@zykrozy2441 Elsa: Oh, thank goodness I was alone on that mountain. If anyone heard me singing that song, I would never hear the end of it from Kristoff.
@@radarred4529 Actually Olaf recited that to the tribes and in front of Anna, Elsa, and Kristoff. 👌
Not hated. Embarrassed.
Am I the only one who saw Anna running obsessively after Elsa and neglecting any other relationship?
Yes? Okay.
no you're not the only one, but your comment's a long way from the top so zero reception i guess
I found it lol, i thought she was being super attached to elsa. But i thought with all the stuff they went threw in the first movie Elsa wouldn't have just left and push anna away again. For again Anna's protection.
I though of -sweet home alabama-
ShadCatMastered I mean she has a reason to.
YES. It made me so mad, it also made me think kirstoff was the only one keeping their relationship together and it made me feel bad for him.
Not Anna having to do everything AGAIN, this time fighting giants 😭
girl does not get enough credit for how much she CARRIES frozen
I hate this new trend of splitting up the characters so much. It usually flies out of nowhere and it just seems like a betrayal of all the past experiences the characters have had together.
Avengers Endgame Steve and Bucky, Wreck if Ralph 2 Ralph and Vanellope, Toy Story 4 (technically 3 too), How to Train Your Dragon 3 Berk and their dragons,, it's been happening a lot and I don't like it.
@@6thgraderfriends I actually loved the ending for HTTYD 3, And it made sense. Unlike the other movies where it felt really forced and made as a last resort "pls cry" ending
@@simonixen0762 Why? The Berkians could've gone with the dragons to The Hidden World and they will still be safe from bad guys. It retconed the first 2 films.
@@6thgraderfriends to be fair Toy Story 3 actually made sense because the 'splitting up' part was about a child growing up and letting go of his childhood.
They’re all ripping it straight from LotR. Also in HttyD I think they should have left it at the dragons leaving and cut out them seeing Toothless again. Kinda took the teeth out of the bittersweet.
Is anyone else wondering why an orchestral cover of “Toxic” is playing in the background for most of this
bc this whole frozen thing is so awful u want to chug some
At first, and then I started wondering where I could listen to it.
What about the instrumental from Phineas and Ferb?
Soul also ends with the main characters splitting up, but it all felt natural and I think that if Disney wants to do more stuff like that they should learn from Pixar
Well, the story is when you think of it, of 22 learning that life is beautiful and going on her journey, she needed to split up, in frozen 2 case it just... happens, Elsa just want to live in the forest
The same can be said for Luca.
@@reid1388 ya but Luca didn't exist when I made this comment lol
@@joesloniker7494 yeah, but it did have the characters splitting up so it could count as one.
@ella bu- but you’re watching a video LITERALLY GIVING AN OPINION ON THE ENTIRE MOVIE 😀
Schaffrilas: I'm glad this movie doesn't have a twist villain.
Me: What about the grandpa that caused the problems?
Edit: He explained in the Tamatoa video that it's because the grandpa was already dead before the events of the movie.
Elsa's dress was fused to her skin and it annoyed me too much
And that little cape thing she has serves no purpose and it's ugly it doesn't need to be on the dress or the coat, they were both fine as is they didn't need that weird thin ass "cape" That is just magically hanging onto the back with no support and it's see through did I mention that it's ugly?
I feel like a lot of the clothing was too thick and tight
100% this!!!!
Yeah I was confused about that
I know right
Elsa at the end: leaves her kingdom to live in the woods herself
Me: Isn't this problem the whole first movie was trying to solve?????
Well part 1 was also supposed to end with Elsa regaining controll of her powers ... while the first scene in part 2 that depicts adult Elsa shows her losing controll of her powers for a moment.
She doesn't live in the woods by herself. She lives with the tribe and the other spirits.
@@RespectedGamer72 Ok, granted, but then again in the first movie she tells Anna she cannot marry a guy she just met and turns out to be right, yet now she decided to forever stay and live with a whole tribe she just met. Still a "no lessons were learned from the first movie".
Celediev i dont know if that applies really.. I mean it’s not a “tribe she just met”, her mother was one of them once and theyre the people that believe in “magic” and all the other spirits live around them.. I think it would only make sense for her to stay there.
@@Celediev A marriage plot feels so out of place in a kids movie. Like the kids I know aren't thinking about the hardships of proposing... (and the first movie being funny about it too, it's like why include that?)
I couldn’t stop hysterically laughing at kristoffs song.
Okay but big mood. When I went to see it, my friend and I couldn’t stop laughing cause it reminded us of like some early 2000’s boy band 💀 or 1D
Same lmao
Fiona Natalia ikr
My sister and me were the only one’s laughing in the theater but we laughed so hard we almost cried hahaha
Oh my god me and my friends were laughing so hard. Then, I made a joke that when olaf "died" he was snapped away by thanos and that the scene looked familiar and my friends started bursted out laughing.
Kristoff’s only purpose is him complimenting Elsa’s hair when she dies.
The entire movie was saying that Anna and Elsa should stick together, they even say it right before they just randomly decide that splitting up is best. It’s really out of left field and it’s so random
It's a movie about accepting changes and moving on. Anna had a conversation about it with Mattias and the song "The Next Right Thing" expressing it.
@@roiitzkovich4545 the movie is NOT about accepting changes. It's about freeing a magic forest from spirits who don't like to solve problems themselves much like Elsa does with Anna in the first movie. And if anything, splitting them up should be giving them both more anxiety since all of their trauma came from them being apart in the first place. If anything, being apart would cause them more trouble.
@@lilmissbacon Thats an idiotic interpretation. It is indeed a film about changes and Annas arc revolved around it. From Some Things Never Change to The Next Right Thing, Anna went from wanting to change to having to accept the changes forced upon her and making the next step in spite of it. The spirits dont know the cause of the problem. The glacier did, and since humans from her bloodline were the cause of the problem she had to pay reparations for it and fix it. Also why would a 24 year old and a 21 year old who is engaged to someone have to live in the same physical location? Are they incestuous? What is this anxiety you speak of? Did you miss the end of the first film? Did you miss the ride the 24 year old had at the end of the second film which allowed her to be in Arendelle in under a minute if she so wished? Did you miss all the clues pointing to her enjoying a life away from the place she grew up fearing for the better part of her life across 2 films? If so thats on you. Not the filmmakers.
@@killingzonewarcraft6464 dude I did not ask for a summary of the movie. I've seen it plenty of times and prefer it over the first, in fact. There were no clues about her enjoying a life away from Arendalle, just that she didn't feel at place there. And she never feared Arendalle, she feared her powers, there's a strong difference. And I do understand that the movie is SUPPOSED to be about change but there's so many different themes and side plots that it becomes scrambled within the movie and only focuses the 'changes plot' on Anna alone. And this anxiety I speak of is the reason why Anna and Elsa are so over protective of each other that it has them make questionable decisions. Why Elsa felt the need to give Anna the best birthday party (in the animated short) despite her health, because her anxiety makes her feel that she needs to make up for lost time. All of this exists because they were apart for 13 years. And afterwards, they've only been able to really be sister's for only 3 years. Over time, their anxiety (or at least Elsa's) would start to make them feel alone all the time even if their surrounded.
P.s. Anna is 22
@@lilmissbacon So you remember the first one? Doesnt sound like it. You claim she never feared Arendelle, though technically Pabbies conduct of the Northern Lights to 8-year old Elsa displayed people with pitchforks attacking her some time in the future. This was the impetus her parents had to conceal her powers from the Arendellian public. Not sure what these different themes and side plots are that makes you so confused about change. 4 characters underwent some degree of growth in this film; the sisters, Kristoff and Olaf. Mattias and Sven had minor supportive roles though neither really changed and the Northuldrans were mainly exposition vehicles. Speaking of anxiety, while they were indeed anxious for the safety of each other during the journey this was not what you were referring to originally. You claimed "splitting them up should be giving them both more anxiety since all of their trauma came from them being apart in the first place." I disagreed with that in particular, because they weren't exactly anxious about Elsa losing control of her powers since the first film ended. At the end of this film, Elsa has perfect control and now has an avenue to master her powers at the place she feels she is truly meant to be while Anna is happily engaged and ruling her beloved kingdom (not that Elsa didnt love her kingdom, she was a great Queen but had a deep-seated desire to be in a different place, hence ITU). In addition, Elsa has a ride. An incredibly quick one. Who exactly is anxious about whom here? Anna's letter to her didn't sound anxious in the slightest. I'm not sure there's any evidence pointing to anxiety being the factor that motivated her to hold a birthday party for Anna in the short. It could be that she is simply making up for lost time.
P.S.: I dont know if Annas 22nd birthday has passed by the end of the 2nd film, hence why I decided to go with 21.
“No ones ever really gone”
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT
I have gone into insanity.
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
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The biggest reason why I never cried in films.
Expect Bambi.
"The reindeer loving guy with way more chemistry with kristoff than Anna ever did. "
Don't know why but this made me wheeze so much.
Because you caught gay. Don't worry, you will grow out of it. (This is a joke. Pls don't get offended)
I thought i was the only one who thought that while watching the movie...
“yOU caN sPpeAK To REindEErs tOo??!”
Me: ok they’re making Kristoff gay
Tbh, I totally shipped the reindeer guy and Kristoff, the two totally had a lot more chemistry than Kristoff and Anna.
Neb you are so into this it’s incredible
I actually felt like Anna and Elsa's dynamic didnt change much after they left arendelle. It felt like it still needed to be mended, which is FINE if we got to see Elsa grow to overcome her depression with Anna. But Elsa just continued to push Anna away (and I'm happy anna got a scene saying she was upset about that.) I wish that idea was more explored and Elsa understood that family was the answer or something.
I think it would highly benefit the movie if Arendelle was destroyed and they’d have to relocate. It would give Anna experience and have them all rebuild and help recover from the past. Also they could have built up to the sisters splitting up, as it was just at the moment like it was thrown in last second
THANK YOU!
Every time I tell something like this to one of my friends that saw the movie with me they act as if I were unable to grasp some extremely obvious clue -_-
They couldn't figure out why building the dam by grandfather as a decoy for the attack on the magical tribe was stupid. The expense, waste of resources and labor was not necessary when a birthday cake and pinata would of done the same trick.
I agree, I was so disappointed. I thought the 'sadness' felt forced since everything just turned out perfectly okay.
And them splitting up had no consequences and had no real purpose. It wasn't sad like in toy story 4, they could visit SO easily, and they were both PERFECTLY happy with their decision.
@@fanpet3912 I agree the emotions seemed forced. They had no adversary in the film. Next movie they need a real villain with a plot twist or 2 like in the first Frozen. Not Casper the spirit that actually mom. That was lame.
“I mean, THIS movie sure doesn’t remember the first movie” - an excellent review of Frozen II in one sentence
Except the Hans references, but does that really count?
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What about Olaf explaining the whole plot? 🤨
@@TrafficConeOrange yeah I forgot about that before this comment. I don’t know how so don’t ask.
"This video is not for children"
TH-cam: "I got it! An unskippable Barbie ad. *Genius.* "
Ky Games I GOT THAT TOO WHAT
I thought Barbie died off long ago.
Oh, so I wasn't the only one.
well at least you got an ad... that means it's working
@@neuroatypicalkirby2 I'm talkin' about COPPA here not demonetization.
This is a classic case of "You should never make a sequel story of a stand-alone story". This is also for Ralph Breaks the Internet. Both films really messed up with their plot and espeically loss of character identity.
Everyone: I like almost all the characters except Elsa.
Disney: OK 👌 (Fixes Elsa but makes everyone else worse)
Cyancat123, I thought Anna was still great, Olaf was funnier but let’s not talk about Kristoff
@@joeyjerry1586 reindeer is chad
Idk why but that emoji made it funnier pls
@@joeyjerry1586 Anna was fine, but still a lil bit of a downgrade compared to the first movie
How was Elsa fixed. She still doesn't really have a character arc. She only has an adventure to complete.
I think the thing that really stuck out for me is that Anna is so incestuously attached to her sister that her boyfriend is nothing more than an afterthought for her. He's spending the whole movie trying just to get a moment alone with her, but Anna can't think about literally anything other than her sister.
After being completely abandoned, Kristoff pours his heart out, to _nobody,_ during Lost In The Woods. Just like always there's nobody there to hear it. He's got serious questions and doubts about whether Anna even loves him because it's abundantly clear he is not a priority to her, because he's not her sister and that's the only thing that makes her world spin.
And then when he saves her? None of that is ever brought up again. He doesn't mention it because they're in the heat of the moment, but there's never a moment afterwards where he says, "Hey, we need to talk. I have some concerns about our relationship." He is delegated to "man whose thoughts and feelings don't matter" at the beginning, and despite all the pain he's feeling, he's put back in that slot at the end. I guess it works out because Elsa moves and now Anna's got nobody else so now he's literally the king (which wasn't even something he wanted).
But I've seen people call it brave. That it's really a break away from the norm. "Wow, look, the man has a number about how he feels." But then the man decides that since nothing he's said so far mattered, he may as well not confront the person who's hurting him, because it's not like it'd make a difference anyway.
And it's such a blatant slap in the face. Seriously, and Disney praises itself with messages saying "Boys need to open up more" "they need their feelings to be heard" or something like that. And yet, they do it to their most famous prince.
@@Ruffgi They did kristoff dirty in the second movie. They saved like he didn't exist. Anna and elsa are both pretty flawed characters. Anna is clingy, shower is so focused on not losing anyone else that she is pushing people away. Elsa is doing the exact same thing in the first movie trying to run away from her problems wanted not talk to anyone about it. Like for me they will be pretty hard to be around
Yeah, they really did Kristoff dirty. I understand how Anna acted though, she's trying to catch up on years of emotional separation with Elsa, and she probably feels more stable with Kristoff than with Elsa (who she's afraid of losing). The only problem is (like what you've already said) that this was never even addressed, even a bit. Kristoff just suddenly proposing left a bad taste in my mouth. Like, they're not even going to address these problems before jumping right to commitment? Kind of a bad message to convey.
@@ellieval206 I think the worst part of it is, is that he clearly thinks about bringing it up, but then chooses not to, because they're "stronger than that".
WHAT?!
@@elizabethsullivan7021 freaking thank you. But I honestly get the feeling that Anna can't leave Elsa, even if she wants to go the bathroom. Alongside that, I think that Kristoff spent most of his time on the stables with Sven, in the town with the people or in the market, but not with Anna, since she's too attached to her sister It wouldn't be hard to imagine said scenario (also, the way they portrayed Anna and Elsa's relationship is weird and downright obnoxious).
This is a theory of my own. I think the parents actually died because of their misuse of Elsa's "gift". They locked her up instead of letting her live and celebrate the powers she was enchanted with. The spirits took this in offense, which led to their deaths. The cause of the death could have easily been the water horse, as well. Seeing how the water reacted to Elsa in the second movie, before she tamed the spirit, was the same way it behaved in the first movie during the ship scene. The water was rambunctious and unforgiving until understood. The sea the parents were traveling was connected to Ahtohallan. This is also where the horse mostly resides. The death makes perfect sense with the context of the second film.
But how would the water horse nokk kill their parents if all the spirits were asleep and elsa woke them up after into the unknown
@@shaistanazneen3832 I don't think the spirits were asleep, they just weren't working with the humans anymore.
@@SPYgirl199812 but when king agnarr told the story he said the spirits were gone and elsa said that I accidentally woke the magical spirits of the forests?
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The spirits seem to be active in the forest still though? Like the earth giants
I don't know if this is what Disney meant, but I took what Elsa did as her bringing the spirits to the kingdom
Honestly I'd have to rewatch the scene
@@shaistanazneen3832 I don't think Elsa could have known what she was talking about. Her knowledge was based on a story from years ago and at the point when she says that (I think) she hasn't explored the forest much.
My little brother got scared and thought that u were gonna arrest him when he saw ur intro. He left the room.
*thank you for ending my suffering.*
BAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHA
The whole 'earth, water, fire and air' thing only ended up giving me crazy avatar vibes 😂
Plot twist: Elsa is actually the Avatar, born in a world where benders are extinct and she had an affinity for water, manifesting it as ice
I got Ninjago vibes 😄 (but Ninjago did it better with the fifth one being energy, ice makes √0%×0 sense!! 🤦
Ikr
@@blackout_ct1013 ya ice would just be water. Elsa even use ilafs water memory theory by using ice
But Frozen 2 is worse than avatar and Korra I ain’t wrong
I wish Elsa WAS the villian and then they figure out they were sisters would be an interesting plot ngl 👌
SHE was supposed to be the VILLAIN....well atleast in the original story written by HANS Christian Andersen.
It would be better but Disney doesn’t really have the balls to show someone relatively good at the beginning of the story be evil let alone it being a Disney princess
Omg yes.
That sounds like the plot of a telenovela. xD
@@plugshirt1684 they do, but only as a last second twist villain, not someone who progressively gets worse.
My favorite part is when it's revealed that Elsa is actually the Avatar, bridge between the Spirit World and Physical one.
James A Clouder me and my friends just kept repeating the beginning of avatar when that came on
elsa is the avatar. called to master all the elements.
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I think this describes this movie perfectly:
Me clicks on this*
"Its ok I haven't seen this yet idc"
Halfway thru the video*
"OH shit I have seen this"
Movie so bad I pushed it out of my brain.
'they didn't even bother thinking about the implications'
*OH MY GOD THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS*
I have nothing interesting to say, I just want to thank you for your comment.
THE STARKID FANDOM WILL TAKE OVER EVERY TH-cam CHANNEL MWAHAHAHAHHAH
JUST THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS EMMA
@I believe in Rengoku supremacy Pree-sigh-slee
cant wait for the starkid fandom uprising
the only thing everyone can agree on about this movie is kristoff's solo slaps
A nice song that felt out of place, but then again that probably says more about what it "disrupted"...
disagree, i strongly dislike it despite loving jonathon groff :(
@@balloonpuff32 it's a great comedic relief during a tense time lol
ikuyo it definitely is during the movie! on its own, though, i find it annoying but i’ve never really been a fan of that musical era lmao
During the visuals I kept thinking of Mike Wazowski when he's singing on a stool and a bigger him appears in the background
Frozen 2 makes it obvious that Frozen was supposed to be a single film. This definitely was made because of the moola. Sucks it didn't have a better story and this movie just make Elsa and Anna's parents look even worse. They knew of this enchanted land, but they couldn't explain it to Elsa and instead, locked her away causing mental and psychological scarring topped with anxiety and depression and causing her to have terrible social ineptness? They're evil.
I was hoping before seeing the film that it was going to focus on Elsa reconnecting with her sister and maybe making a genuine friend or showing that she made progress but still slowly opening up. Can't think of anything for Anna and Kristoff.
if elsa had more character development it would’ve been better like you said if she made a friend that would’ve helped too also in the 1st movie she just pushed her sister away then told her she couldn’t do that 2nd movie she does it AGAIN like... are you dumb? and also the parents were horrible this was so random lol
I had an idea for a sequel that I considered making as a fanfiction where an ice witch (like the one Elsa was supposed to be) appears in the kigdom and conquers it, freezing Anna and Kristoff. Elsa consults the rock trolls and finds out she needs someone with fire powers to defeat the witch.
So she would go on a journey to find that person, which would be someone like she was, a guy who isolates himself to not hurt people. Elsa helps him cope with his loses and convinces him to help, they defeat the witch with the power of love and friendship and everyone gets a happy ending.