thanks for the video :) I just picked up an MPC One and am looking into this synth specifically to have instead of my opsix (just because of ease of transportation), and it's good to have the background!
Currently, available for 10 bucks! Not kidding! Just received their discount mail (it says 29$ first) and once you click on the link you get it that cheap, absolute madness
@@farfadetdesbois1915 Yeah, still a killer price, though weird why you got a different price. I think they had a similar "bug" in autumn where you could add an additional 50% voucher but it only worked for like 2 days, hmm.
This looks okay. In the realm of DAW plug-ins, I think it is more like a 40 dollar plug-in. I suppose it is worth a little more to be able to use it in a MPC. I would pay 50-70 bucks for it. The FM synth market, plug-in and hardware, is dense with options.
Glad this video helped you make an informed decision. As a phase plant purist this comes no where close, though it’s pretty useful for the standalone hardware
Super late on this. I've actually been digging into using my very recently acquired MPC One Plus for IDM/breakcore/glitch and other generql weirdness and sound design. It is definitely harder to find videos on these sorts of processes on the MPC, but I'm enjoying seeing what I can figure out as I've been exploring. It's actually surprisingly capable. I'm definitely gonna get this OPX-4 soon.
Glitch stuff is super accessible with the mpc if you have the patience- there’s the time flex thing and then abusing a delay on whatever while recording will get you lots of experimental sounds. Neuro stuff on the other hand is way more trouble than it’s worth- just because of how many steps you go through only to be bogged down by menu flipping and setups. I’d recommend you design on the computer and compose on the box if possible, but that’s just my experience
@ Yeah man a big part of my approach with "IDM"/glitch on Ableton is basically just wonking and resampling sounds and chopping those in Simpler or Drum Rack, so it translates really well into the MPC ecosystem, actually. Yeah, you're right, I couldn't imagine doing a LOT of what I've seen you do here on an MPC haha.
I'm also in sound design and deep diving into the mpc live. I make everything from scratch. Do you have any other videos on this? I'm going to start doing videos soon. I really think I can get whatever sounds I need from the mpc but as you said unfortunately I have to bounce to sample becuse of the automation reasons but I also run iridium too and I have to sample that too becuse I only have one. Lol. Anyways my dude I appreciate the video keep it up I enjoyed it. Nice too see someone else using mpc for sound design I think alot of people are missing out on all the plug ins in mpc.
Have you tried the Hydrasynth? It has a vowel filter and wave warping with quite a few warp points, no to mention like 200 waveforms. It's a pretty decent 4 operator FM synth.
I have! and it's definitely a beast but it's a dedicated FM synth where as something like the MPC has all the other features to Implement your sounds into an idea/song.
Thanks for the video. Personally i would love to have a tuto on neurobass with the OPx4. I just get this plugin yesterday, I'm running on the Force, and it's great great synth. One of the reason I get this synth it's to do Neurobass, so don't hesitated bro!!
Was thinking about adding Air Enhancer as it can add harmonics to the signal. Ofc it comes after in the chain. Granulator fx also of interest. OPX4 a monster indeed.
@@Alckemy Hahha I know, but i don't mind some mild hacking :) We just need more options for this stuff. I've also been adding my own synth presets to the factory lists so i can save to the newish favourites selector. Why Akai think its a good system to have to save and load from local storage single presets is beyond me.
4:20 I've not tried this, but I see you have set the Time Scale to 10% to make shorter envelopes with finer control. 10% is the minimum. If you click on the Env Scale After Env 6) you can scale the envelopes down to 0%. Maybe this will help make those decay rates more in the range you want.
Muy bien otro plugins mas para componer y tener mas sonidos...Enteraros bien de las cosas que os las estoy explicando como va la evolucion de todo el asunto musical...Bien animo y vayamos todos con alegrias...
I feel you about what you said not wanting to go deep into sound design because how most MPC headz use tend it but they don't represent us Force - we would love videos on those hidden secrets you speak of🧐so please bring it on!
Hello, curious to know if your using the Apple silicon running the mpc software? I have has issues while using M1 MBP, M2 Mac mini, with system overload with the MPC software. Thanks
People complain about the price. I think it’s serviceable enough to purchase on a MPC. Different strokes for different folks. There are better options but none for the MPC hardware. I have other FM synths (hardware and software) and still went for the OPx-4. The whole Fabric bundle actually.
I couldn’t justify the fabric bundle but I lm pretty happy with what I can do on the standalone hardware minus some wishlist features. It’s great for plucks and donks!
@@Alckemy awesome! im not new to fm but dipping my feet in the water with what the mpc can do with it in standalone. the only question is do u know if the plugin is actually FM or is it PM like most FM synths? I like that u outlined the limitations of the fm synth so that im aware of it at the same time making it super clear that this still is a hell of a fm plugin which it is and there are just work arounds that have to be done in the state that the plugin is in. Its still a hell of a step forward in the mpc eco system....Its definitely a useable fm synth that can be improved on in the future. for users who sound design or like to sound design and use the mpc in standalone mode specifically the $149 to me isnt really much of an issue because it simply allows something possible thats just not possible to the extent the fm synth allows....in controller mode i could see how the price is steep in comparison to other vst plugin options. But looking for all tips tricks and observations you got to be and stay informed with being as productive as possible with the fm synth.
@@magicizaproblem Because of the operators And the matrix system I think it fm but pm/fm is so similar it really doesn’t make a huge difference. That being said, I totally agree with you that it is sick what mpc can do and for me this is another step in it becoming more of a portable daw than ever. If you have anything specific you’d like to see let me know!
Very well, another plugin to compose and have more sounds... Find out well about the things that I am explaining to you, how the evolution of the whole musical matter is going... Good luck and let's all go with joy...
In future videos maybe you could zoom in on the plugin so we can better see what you are demonstrating. Most of the screen is taken up by the MPC software which has no relevant information. Good content otherwise though. 👍
This review would make much more sense in terms of MPC hardware (and how the UI works there). In MPC Software almost any other FM plugins would be a better choice.
I mention several times this is meant for the hardware. it's easier to capture on the screen than trying to get people to squint at the on screen which for people watching on mobile (wink wink) I try to avoid
@@Alckemy Sorry, must've missed that. I just found FM synthesis executed like Akai did it doesn't work well on small UI with knobs (and it is possible to do well - look at Digitone). And I found the sound fidelity really lacking - it's perfectly heard in your video, BTW - missing a lot of low end, very grainy and prone to turning into harsh noise. I might get it when/if it's 50% off, but current price is a slap in the face, IMO.
I hope that in turn the revenue goes to developers! I also hope that they continue to update these plugins and improve them over time. There’s some stuff I’d really like to see added to them
Could just be that my sounds aren’t your style. If you like anything electronic I’m sure there are some favorite sounds you have made by fm. It’s a fundamental principle of synthesis
While I did compare fm-4 to this that’s about as far as the similarities go. I don’t think a stand-alone hardware device will ever be bitwig- at least for the next 20 years or so haha
@@meanguitar I think it depends on the person. This is the second time I’ve purchased an mpc live and when I first had it I was not ready for it. I didn’t have the right perspective to figure out how to use it in a means that complimented my workflow rather than feeling like I had to pick one or the other. This time around things clicked and they all kind of stem around the same idea of how I make a track, which is by resampling loops. So by using hardware to make my own I feel like I have the freedom to produce at any given quality and know how to turn it into something bigger and fully realized. And with that it doesn’t matter where you source your loops, whether it be sample packs or hardware or making your own loops in the daw from scratch. In some cases, I’m looking at sound design in the same light now which is why I’m excited to try sound design via hardware, and for me, the op4 while not perfect is a really cool jump off point. I have to use my ears very critically to try to aim for the same quality as I would in a daw. Sorry for the novel! I have a video coming out regarding this topic and was excited to share the info
The Opx4 doesn't produce real sinewaves. They are always kind of sawtoowish. If you are looking for those typical clear FM sounds, this product ain't for your. Normal Fm Synths sound different. Akai, please update this.
thanks for the video :) I just picked up an MPC One and am looking into this synth specifically to have instead of my opsix (just because of ease of transportation), and it's good to have the background!
Currently, available for 10 bucks! Not kidding!
Just received their discount mail (it says 29$ first) and once you click on the link you get it that cheap, absolute madness
29€ for me. I saw like u Said 9€ but after closing the Window and came back it changed into 29€ 😮💨but even 29 it s fair
Totally worth it!
@@farfadetdesbois1915 Yeah, still a killer price, though weird why you got a different price. I think they had a similar "bug" in autumn where you could add an additional 50% voucher but it only worked for like 2 days, hmm.
This looks okay. In the realm of DAW plug-ins, I think it is more like a 40 dollar plug-in. I suppose it is worth a little more to be able to use it in a MPC. I would pay 50-70 bucks for it. The FM synth market, plug-in and hardware, is dense with options.
Glad this video helped you make an informed decision. As a phase plant purist this comes no where close, though it’s pretty useful for the standalone hardware
Ya it isn't worth the sticker price, sadly, since I would like an FM synth in my hardware setup.
@@inthefade I’m glad you got an answer out of the video! I personally don’t regret it but, I have a wishlist of features on the future
You're in luck, 79 dollars at this moment :)
$79 right now… and this video does not at all show how good this really is… especially for use in a standalone!
Super late on this. I've actually been digging into using my very recently acquired MPC One Plus for IDM/breakcore/glitch and other generql weirdness and sound design. It is definitely harder to find videos on these sorts of processes on the MPC, but I'm enjoying seeing what I can figure out as I've been exploring. It's actually surprisingly capable. I'm definitely gonna get this OPX-4 soon.
Glitch stuff is super accessible with the mpc if you have the patience- there’s the time flex thing and then abusing a delay on whatever while recording will get you lots of experimental sounds. Neuro stuff on the other hand is way more trouble than it’s worth- just because of how many steps you go through only to be bogged down by menu flipping and setups.
I’d recommend you design on the computer and compose on the box if possible, but that’s just my experience
@ Yeah man a big part of my approach with "IDM"/glitch on Ableton is basically just wonking and resampling sounds and chopping those in Simpler or Drum Rack, so it translates really well into the MPC ecosystem, actually. Yeah, you're right, I couldn't imagine doing a LOT of what I've seen you do here on an MPC haha.
I'm also in sound design and deep diving into the mpc live. I make everything from scratch. Do you have any other videos on this? I'm going to start doing videos soon. I really think I can get whatever sounds I need from the mpc but as you said unfortunately I have to bounce to sample becuse of the automation reasons but I also run iridium too and I have to sample that too becuse I only have one. Lol. Anyways my dude I appreciate the video keep it up I enjoyed it. Nice too see someone else using mpc for sound design I think alot of people are missing out on all the plug ins in mpc.
Thanks for watching! I have a neuro bass video from scratch on the mpc and more content planned but not a huge library on it yet
Have you tried the Hydrasynth? It has a vowel filter and wave warping with quite a few warp points, no to mention like 200 waveforms. It's a pretty decent 4 operator FM synth.
I have! and it's definitely a beast but it's a dedicated FM synth where as something like the MPC has all the other features to Implement your sounds into an idea/song.
Thanks for the video. Personally i would love to have a tuto on neurobass with the OPx4. I just get this plugin yesterday, I'm running on the Force, and it's great great synth. One of the reason I get this synth it's to do Neurobass, so don't hesitated bro!!
Thanks for your comment! Check my mpc master class:)
Was thinking about adding Air Enhancer as it can add harmonics to the signal.
Ofc it comes after in the chain.
Granulator fx also of interest.
OPX4 a monster indeed.
Actually you can use your own sample for the sample layer. Its a bit of hack but nothing bad.
I looked at the way you have to label things to get it to recognize inside of the folder but it is noooot worth it for me lol
@@Alckemy Hahha I know, but i don't mind some mild hacking :)
We just need more options for this stuff.
I've also been adding my own synth presets to the factory lists so i can save to the newish favourites selector. Why Akai think its a good system to have to save and load from local storage single presets is beyond me.
Curious to see how we will be able to do some more mangling on this guy with MPC 3.0...
You’re going to have to let me know as I no longer have an mpc
@@Alckemybeta is available today
4:20 I've not tried this, but I see you have set the Time Scale to 10% to make shorter envelopes with finer control. 10% is the minimum. If you click on the Env Scale After Env 6) you can scale the envelopes down to 0%. Maybe this will help make those decay rates more in the range you want.
I know I'm l8 to the party with this video but DAMN! You have a lot of knowledge about this subject matter. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks! I like nerdy sound design lol
in most Daws you hold shift for finer adjustments, sometimes it's a different button, but most daws have the native ability to fine tune adjustments.
On the mpc you get a finer tune but it still skips a bunch.
Muy bien otro plugins mas para componer y tener mas sonidos...Enteraros bien de las cosas que os las estoy explicando como va la evolucion de todo el asunto musical...Bien animo y vayamos todos con alegrias...
I feel you about what you said not wanting to go deep into sound design because how most MPC headz use tend it but they don't represent us Force - we would love videos on those hidden secrets you speak of🧐so please bring it on!
Oh no I go deep-- but most mpc users don’t get into sound design so I’m out to change that :)
@@johnny_blz check out the neuro bass masterclass for the mpc:)
Hello, curious to know if your using the Apple silicon running the mpc software? I have has issues while using M1 MBP, M2 Mac mini, with system overload with the MPC software. Thanks
I was using an M1 Max at the time but I didn’t have any issues
People complain about the price. I think it’s serviceable enough to purchase on a MPC. Different strokes for different folks. There are better options but none for the MPC hardware.
I have other FM synths (hardware and software) and still went for the OPx-4. The whole Fabric bundle actually.
I couldn’t justify the fabric bundle but I lm pretty happy with what I can do on the standalone hardware minus some wishlist features. It’s great for plucks and donks!
I appreciate this review 🔥
This may sound like a silly question but can you make growls / wub sounds from this for EDM type tracks?
Definitely
@@Alckemy Gotcha, this is making that new MPC Key 37 even more appealing then
@@connormckay9429 I’d personally go with a box that has more ram. The 37 only has 2 gigs which is just silly
was there any improvement aka update on this synth yet?
No idea. I no longer have this tbh
@@Alckemy thx 4 quick reply
Bro keep making sound design videos for fm so we can see what is possible
Thanks so much for watching, I definitely have more MPC content planned!
@@Alckemy awesome! im not new to fm but dipping my feet in the water with what the mpc can do with it in standalone.
the only question is do u know if the plugin is actually FM or is it PM like most FM synths?
I like that u outlined the limitations of the fm synth so that im aware of it at the same time making it super clear that this still is a hell of a fm plugin which it is and there are just work arounds that have to be done in the state that the plugin is in.
Its still a hell of a step forward in the mpc eco system....Its definitely a useable fm synth that can be improved on in the future.
for users who sound design or like to sound design and use the mpc in standalone mode specifically the $149 to me isnt really much of an issue because it simply allows something possible thats just not possible to the extent the fm synth allows....in controller mode i could see how the price is steep in comparison to other vst plugin options.
But looking for all tips tricks and observations you got to be and stay informed with being as productive as possible with the fm synth.
@@magicizaproblem Because of the operators And the matrix system I think it fm but pm/fm is so similar it really doesn’t make a huge difference.
That being said, I totally agree with you that it is sick what mpc can do and for me this is another step in it becoming more of a portable daw than ever.
If you have anything specific you’d like to see let me know!
The harmonics controls on the Kawai K5000 series are the goods.
I don’t know what that is lol
Very well, another plugin to compose and have more sounds... Find out well about the things that I am explaining to you, how the evolution of the whole musical matter is going... Good luck and let's all go with joy...
In future videos maybe you could zoom in on the plugin so we can better see what you are demonstrating. Most of the screen is taken up by the MPC software which has no relevant information. Good content otherwise though. 👍
Thanks for your feedback!
can it do zenon style fm patches?
It’s more of a can “you” do it rather than “it.”
Coming from Reface DX to MPC, and never chopped a sample, this seems interesting.
What are you waiting for, get chopping! Lol
You can’t automate? What the 🤔
I haven’t even tried yet.
Maybe it’s been updated since 🤞
It’s not mapped to a cc so you can’t unfortunately
I saw an fm matrix and said “Ooooh”
That's what I said as well lol
This review would make much more sense in terms of MPC hardware (and how the UI works there).
In MPC Software almost any other FM plugins would be a better choice.
I mention several times this is meant for the hardware. it's easier to capture on the screen than trying to get people to squint at the on screen which for people watching on mobile (wink wink) I try to avoid
@@Alckemy Sorry, must've missed that. I just found FM synthesis executed like Akai did it doesn't work well on small UI with knobs (and it is possible to do well - look at Digitone). And I found the sound fidelity really lacking - it's perfectly heard in your video, BTW - missing a lot of low end, very grainy and prone to turning into harsh noise. I might get it when/if it's 50% off, but current price is a slap in the face, IMO.
@@Artek604 all good, I’m glad this video helped you make the right choice whether you choose to buy it or not:) thank you for watching!
49.00 now
Definitely worth 50!
Price is to keep the platform alive as well. Hard to justify keeping it running if people do not put money to support Akai work.
I hope that in turn the revenue goes to developers! I also hope that they continue to update these plugins and improve them over time. There’s some stuff I’d really like to see added to them
@Alckemy I wish they added a proper set of filters to most synths (band pass...) along w stronger LFOs and like the Force, envelope followers.
I see the depth and value but I just dont feel inspired by the sounds. Maybe Im just not an FM guy?
Could just be that my sounds aren’t your style. If you like anything electronic I’m sure there are some favorite sounds you have made by fm. It’s a fundamental principle of synthesis
$29.99 at the moment. Snatched it.
your VO needs de-essing, it's piercing to listen to, subject matter is A+ though.
Thanks, should be better in videos after this was uploaded
𝐩яⓞ𝓂𝓞Ş𝐦 😻
They have to go a long way to catch up to bitwig
While I did compare fm-4 to this that’s about as far as the similarities go. I don’t think a stand-alone hardware device will ever be bitwig- at least for the next 20 years or so haha
@@Alckemy yeah but I am sure its a very useful tool for the akai to at least have an fm synth now
@@meanguitar I think it depends on the person. This is the second time I’ve purchased an mpc live and when I first had it I was not ready for it. I didn’t have the right perspective to figure out how to use it in a means that complimented my workflow rather than feeling like I had to pick one or the other. This time around things clicked and they all kind of stem around the same idea of how I make a track, which is by resampling loops. So by using hardware to make my own I feel like I have the freedom to produce at any given quality and know how to turn it into something bigger and fully realized.
And with that it doesn’t matter where you source your loops, whether it be sample packs or hardware or making your own loops in the daw from scratch.
In some cases, I’m looking at sound design in the same light now which is why I’m excited to try sound design via hardware, and for me, the op4 while not perfect is a really cool jump off point. I have to use my ears very critically to try to aim for the same quality as I would in a daw.
Sorry for the novel! I have a video coming out regarding this topic and was excited to share the info
The Opx4 doesn't produce real sinewaves. They are always kind of sawtoowish. If you are looking for those typical clear FM sounds, this product ain't for your. Normal Fm Synths sound different. Akai, please update this.
perhaps. for me I still think it makes cool sounds though