I bought the only 2023 Outback Wilderness that they had in the lot yesterday. They had many Foresters to choose from in the lot. We are excited to pick this up tomorrow.
I bought a 22 Wilderness Outback about 6 weeks ago, took it on vacay to Big Bend National Park, 12 hour drive, and it was so comfortable, we played on dirt and rock roads, it did amazing! We even hung out with a 2012 Ford Raptor and it was fun! My first Subaru, but not my last!
I currently have the 2020 Subaru Forester touring and love it. My lease ends next year and considering upgrading to the Outback wilderness. I am having a hard time giving up my forester. I am currently at 46,600 miles and will probably be close to 60k next summer when my lease ends. My forester touring was my dream car with the brown leather seats and facial recognition technology. If the 2024 forester comes out next year I will upgrade to another forester.
If the forester had the 2.4 T I would have considered it over the outback. And if any of the wilderness came with a manual and the 2.4 that would be my choice.
Biggest difference: Way easier to get in an out of the Forrester. You don't need to crane your neck when slipping in and out of the driver side because of the door size
I wish you had talked a bit more about the power and handling differences in your experience. I love the Forester look a little more than the outback but am being pulled by the outbacks more powerful engine.
Outback touchscreen would drive me crazy. Forester gets better MPG. The cargo area is better in Forester is easier to use with a wider entry and a taller roof… really don’t get much more usable space with the Outback. The Forester Wilderness also gets a transmission cooler that I don’t think the Outback gets. The Forester wilderness also has 147 lbs more payload… if your Overlanding you will need the extra payload capacity. That Turbo engine runs the oil in the engine much hotter… be concerned long/ term. The visibility in the Forester is much better. If you watch Sarah n tuned she tested both 22 wilderness’s and the Outback couldn’t climb a hill after several tries and the Forester did it on the first try. Finally the Outback Wilderness is about $4000 more. If you are getting the Wilderness for Overlanding definitely get the Forester. It does just find loaded at altitude and hills. If you love that turbo maybe should consider another vehicle that can really accelerate.
I'd like to know the forester owners thoughts on the horsepower. Ive test drove a forester and it felt good, but its hard to tell since it was a short ride. From a long term owner I am curious if you are often times you are wishing for more power or if it seems adequate for the forester? I like the idea of having 80 more horsepower, in the outback, especially as I live at high altitude. I am struggling deciding between the forester and the outback, I really like the look of the forester more but the lower horsepower worries me.
I think the hp of the forester is great. I wanted something more for off-road stuff and from what I hear the turbo can make that a little difficult due to kinda launching you when it kicks in. And if you really need it, the sharp sport mode on the forester gives it decent little boost when needed. Also if consider the infotainment system. I hear nothing but complaints about the one on the OB.
@@scottandsheilaricca351 if you drive longer enough of 2.4 Turbo, you will be never get back to 2.5 NA 100 percent sure that , how many times you off road if, 98 percent on pavement
I wonder can you guys comment on differences in every day fuel economy, performance, easiness to park in tight spaces etc..? Many thanks in advance for all your knowledge 👍
The outback is quicker, but is slightly longer with longer overhangs. Both are relatively easy to park and we actually get very similar mpg (nearly 25 mpg). I think driven very conservatively you should get better mpg from the forester though. I don't think you could go wrong with either. Just boils down to how much you want to spend and the turbo and larger screen in the outback 👍
There's several thousand dollars difference between the two, but the outback is maybe a little more premium and certainly more powerful. The Forester is built in Japan, slightly better mpg, and has more the ergonomics of a normal crossover. Both are great options.
I F*CKING HATE!! that textured plastic on my wifes crosstrek. It's a goddamn nightmare for wax/sealant application and it's worse to clean and prep for a ceramic coating. WTF was subaru thinking?
Great comparison! My friend just got a Wilderness Forester and he loves it. I prefer the Outback.
I bought the only 2023 Outback Wilderness that they had in the lot yesterday. They had many Foresters to choose from in the lot. We are excited to pick this up tomorrow.
I bought a 22 Wilderness Outback about 6 weeks ago, took it on vacay to Big Bend National Park, 12 hour drive, and it was so comfortable, we played on dirt and rock roads, it did amazing! We even hung out with a 2012 Ford Raptor and it was fun! My first Subaru, but not my last!
I currently have the 2020 Subaru Forester touring and love it. My lease ends next year and considering upgrading to the Outback wilderness. I am having a hard time giving up my forester. I am currently at 46,600 miles and will probably be close to 60k next summer when my lease ends. My forester touring was my dream car with the brown leather seats and facial recognition technology. If the 2024 forester comes out next year I will upgrade to another forester.
If the forester had the 2.4 T I would have considered it over the outback. And if any of the wilderness came with a manual and the 2.4 that would be my choice.
Thinking to trade in my 19 golf r for this. Need more room and power
Biggest difference: Way easier to get in an out of the Forrester. You don't need to crane your neck when slipping in and out of the driver side because of the door size
I wish you had talked a bit more about the power and handling differences in your experience. I love the Forester look a little more than the outback but am being pulled by the outbacks more powerful engine.
Outback touchscreen would drive me crazy. Forester gets better MPG. The cargo area is better in Forester is easier to use with a wider entry and a taller roof… really don’t get much more usable space with the Outback. The Forester Wilderness also gets a transmission cooler that I don’t think the Outback gets. The Forester wilderness also has 147 lbs more payload… if your Overlanding you will need the extra payload capacity. That Turbo engine runs the oil in the engine much hotter… be concerned long/ term. The visibility in the Forester is much better. If you watch Sarah n tuned she tested both 22 wilderness’s and the Outback couldn’t climb a hill after several tries and the Forester did it on the first try. Finally the Outback Wilderness is about $4000 more. If you are getting the Wilderness for Overlanding definitely get the Forester. It does just find loaded at altitude and hills. If you love that turbo maybe should consider another vehicle that can really accelerate.
Outlander seems to have a bit of a higher roofline over the Outback, correct? Thinking that contributes to its slightly boxier style.
Forester sits a little taller and more vertical, yes.
I'd like to know the forester owners thoughts on the horsepower. Ive test drove a forester and it felt good, but its hard to tell since it was a short ride. From a long term owner I am curious if you are often times you are wishing for more power or if it seems adequate for the forester? I like the idea of having 80 more horsepower, in the outback, especially as I live at high altitude. I am struggling deciding between the forester and the outback, I really like the look of the forester more but the lower horsepower worries me.
I think the hp of the forester is great. I wanted something more for off-road stuff and from what I hear the turbo can make that a little difficult due to kinda launching you when it kicks in. And if you really need it, the sharp sport mode on the forester gives it decent little boost when needed. Also if consider the infotainment system. I hear nothing but complaints about the one on the OB.
@@scottandsheilaricca351 Thanks for the informative reply!
@@scottandsheilaricca351 if you drive longer enough of 2.4 Turbo, you will be never get back to 2.5 NA 100 percent sure that , how many times you off road if, 98 percent on pavement
@@Totosubie to each their own. I can only speak from my perspective and for me the 2.5 NA is more than enough. No hate for people that like the turbo.
I wonder can you guys comment on differences in every day fuel economy, performance, easiness to park in tight spaces etc..? Many thanks in advance for all your knowledge 👍
The outback is quicker, but is slightly longer with longer overhangs. Both are relatively easy to park and we actually get very similar mpg (nearly 25 mpg). I think driven very conservatively you should get better mpg from the forester though. I don't think you could go wrong with either. Just boils down to how much you want to spend and the turbo and larger screen in the outback 👍
Ok for 2023 which one should a first time buyer purchase the Outback Wilderness or Forester Wilderness in your opinion?
There's several thousand dollars difference between the two, but the outback is maybe a little more premium and certainly more powerful. The Forester is built in Japan, slightly better mpg, and has more the ergonomics of a normal crossover. Both are great options.
So you have to wait until the screen finishes booting up to change the air condition?
That ain’t gonna kill ya. It takes a second.
i said forester wilderness is adequate of the power, but now I regret after I tried XT outback, such a huge different
100 ft-lbs of torque is no joke!
Hell yeah. We have both but I prefer the outback for sure. Now all it needs it’s a manual
Doesn't the Forester have better X mode
Are these the 2023 models?
Both 2022
Wait, I do have Harman Kardon on my Outback Wilderness
Really?? What year is yours? We didn't even see where/how to get it
@@TrailPass Oh, I am wrong, I didn't see the name badge on the speaker. Sorry for misleading.
@@richardkuan491 no worries! I thought maybe you had unicorn! Lol
I F*CKING HATE!! that textured plastic on my wifes crosstrek. It's a goddamn nightmare for wax/sealant application and it's worse to clean and prep for a ceramic coating. WTF was subaru thinking?
Who applies wax or sealant on non-painted plastic surface?
@@sansin6250 I don’t. It gets on there during application on the paint because there’s so goddamn much of it