I dunno about having so few tiers. I mean, Ryu and Urien are so noticeably better than everyone else on their teir, plus Remy is also in that same tier. I can see why the order's the way it is, though.
i can see how ryu might have more of an edge, 1 knock down and you can do some serious damge, but a solid Urien always feels like he can get things done.
There's no way Sean is below Twelve. Twelve has no target combos, his specials are... mediocre, and his Heavy Punch is pretty much only useful as an anti-air, because other than that, Heavy Kick is just better. Additionally, I find his Supers more difficult to perform than anyone else's (except for maybe Hugo's) which is weird because other than X.F.L.A.T, they are all the same inputs as most of the other characters'.
I feel like Ken's got an easier time than Makoto just because he can burn EX all day and stay relatively safe. Mak has to take a lot of risks to do damage
Well I'd say for the fact that nearly EVERY player knows how to play Ken in 3s or how to play against Ken, the familiarity of a decade+ of that match I would say make him easier to deal with than an Akuma. Maybe Ken is better on paper, or original tier list, but years of matchups have altered it imho.
The rest of the categories seem to be in order, but maybe that particular tier is a bit mixed up. Denjin or not, though, I'm more afraid of Urien than I am of Ryu. ._.
Gouki/Akuma is really good against the top 2 characters. Health argument is a non issue because the 2 top characters can kill most of the characters in 2 hits anyway. Gouki is very safe compared to the rest of the cast. Gouki has the BEST anti air in the game. Gouki has the best escapes in the game as well as a dope/scary wake up game. Look at Ken a very strong character/also very solid/well rounded... not too too much more.
@@ReNiCGaming Thanks for the response! Is it best to just light shoryu if you dont have SA1? I struggle against my friend who love jumping with chun li.
Insanely late comment: do you value defense and mobility more than offense/hitconfirm? I agree with all of your points about gouki’s baked in fundamentals, but i think ken’s hitconfirms and punish w/ shippu make him better. (Not going to comment about oro, since this is out of the scope of this thread)
i would build a similiar list however i think dudley is a little too low and i think akuma is too high maybe by one slot or two mine would have been Mak/Dud/Aku/Ken/Yang. but as you said it's your opinion i just feel dudley is really good against all low tier and doesn't have many terrible match ups i even put him 5/5 against chun/makoto i'm too familiar with dudley vs twins or dudley vs shoto's but i'm pretty sure he's great in those match ups too - perhaps i'm un-educated in these match ups.
@coreymcguire1993 the general wisdom is the top 5 is chun/yun/ken/makoto/dudley with ryu/yang/akuma/urien right behind them. renic's just a rebel like that
I don't know,I feel like Ibuki is better than Elena with her horrifying cross ups.I main Alex and let me tell you I'd take Elena over Ibuki any time simply because I could land at least a few command grabs.
The 3SO ranking system is stupid. Not knocking the Sean player, because he has a very good Sean but 3SO's ranking is based on doing certain actions repeatedly not on winning.
LOL that comment was a joke But real talk, Akuma has the best anti-air,wake up game, mix-ups, most supers and best escapes (only reason he´s not higher then Ken or Makoto is because of his shit health, stun gauge and u need 2 super bars to be good, unlike the top 4 characters) and yea I agree with you on Hugo and 12 (maybe Q even) being worse then Sean and Ibuki and Elena are underrated as shit
Ken over Akuma/Gouki any day, Gouki has his problems, I'd also put Dudley over Yang. On another note, Oro over Elena any day of the week. I agree with most of it though.
This is biased because renic mains alex, Q, urien, and dudley. Which is why Akuma is so high, he's got a pretty good favor in those matchups doesn't he?
Ken is probably better than akuma and makoto since ken in general can do things better than akuma. This is my opinion though. Also makoto needs meter but ken doesn’t to stay safe.
all tier lists should look like this and sound like this and have dancing yang gifs
facts
haha gill sweeping over there
Gill is so top teir that all the other characters are barely worthy enough to witness his leg
The mark of the knee shall scar thy DNA
Favorited, just for the Gill crouching short. Some of these people... they just don't know...
No that's crouching roundhouse
Why do the cool looking characters always suck? Like necro, twelve, remy, Q.
DG Deagles I don't get it, yun and makoto look so cool at just about everything they do, looks and play style.
Wouldn’t say remy looks cool, compared to guile and Nash. Flash kick looks like an elastic band, sonic boom looks like he’s throwing a frisbee
@@freyzerb.castro9124 bruh this comment is 5 years old 😂
@@freyzerb.castro9124 remy is trash, some say necro is high tier, q is a solid low tier
@@freyzerb.castro9124 Its actually crazy you think Remy is better than Necro
Sean desperately trying to jump into frame like he's desperately trying to be relevant is killing me.
I dunno about having so few tiers. I mean, Ryu and Urien are so noticeably better than everyone else on their teir, plus Remy is also in that same tier. I can see why the order's the way it is, though.
hahaha gills foot in the top left corner
i can see how ryu might have more of an edge, 1 knock down and you can do some serious damge, but a solid Urien always feels like he can get things done.
There's no way Sean is below Twelve. Twelve has no target combos, his specials are... mediocre, and his Heavy Punch is pretty much only useful as an anti-air, because other than that, Heavy Kick is just better. Additionally, I find his Supers more difficult to perform than anyone else's (except for maybe Hugo's) which is weird because other than X.F.L.A.T, they are all the same inputs as most of the other characters'.
I agree with you
It's rare to see Akuma pushed to the limits nowadays, Kuroda was always beastin with him 👌👌
Chun is so broken, every of her pokes are like one frame with absolute range
S: Chun , Yun , Makoto
A: Ken , Akuma , Yang , Dudley , Urien
B: Necro , Oro , Ryu , Elena , Ibuki
C: Remy , Alex , Q , Hugo
D: Twelve , Sean
I dont think makoto is S. I think makoto is A. Only chun and yun are S
@@wildwest1832 I could see that
Remy looks like hes moonwalking while Yang looks like hes doing the running man.
Sean didn't even make it into the thumbnail.
Akuma dies too quickly to be top tier. However, I do understand that this is your personal tier list.
+Levi Skardsen Indeed, and not to mention his tiny stun bar
Did you really just say a weakness and use that to say he's not good? :/
That's like saying "Chun's damage output is too low for her to be top tier"
@@harryvpn1462 Overreact much? I said he's not top tier, I didn't say he was bad.
@@Levi_Skardsen he seems about as fragile as remy basically and his health isn't that different from Yangs.
all 3 of my chars got brittle ass bones 😒
he does die quick but if you taunt 3 times Akuma will get stronger
I feel like Ken's got an easier time than Makoto just because he can burn EX all day and stay relatively safe. Mak has to take a lot of risks to do damage
I just want you to know that sometimes I comeback to this video from time to time just to experience the music and the visuals. Thanks
Same
I think that's the highest I've ever seen Q in a tier list.
I think yun is in a tier of his own...
Lol Yang Got Me Dyin
I'd put Remy in the bottom tier.
Man, I often wished this game had one more balance change before being released, where they would nerf Chun and buff weak characters like twelve.
Necros way too low he should be up there with ryu and urien
i'm pretty sure that you're the only person in the world that ranks akuma that high
look at Yang's sweet dance moves going on there!
Petition for dancing yang to be a taunt in the next gme he is playable in
ok URIEN is definetly not C teir, he's at least b-a teir
Am I the only person wondering why the video is cropped and the person in the white space is hidden? WTF
The joke is that the character is Gill, who is really overpowered, but only available on one version of the game and isn't used competitively
i like yang's dance
Well I'd say for the fact that nearly EVERY player knows how to play Ken in 3s or how to play against Ken, the familiarity of a decade+ of that match I would say make him easier to deal with than an Akuma. Maybe Ken is better on paper, or original tier list, but years of matchups have altered it imho.
As a 12 main, i can say that for every move your opponent makes, you need to make 4
You need to make 12*
The rest of the categories seem to be in order, but maybe that particular tier is a bit mixed up.
Denjin or not, though, I'm more afraid of Urien than I am of Ryu. ._.
Gouki/Akuma is really good against the top 2 characters. Health argument is a non issue because the 2 top characters can kill most of the characters in 2 hits anyway. Gouki is very safe compared to the rest of the cast. Gouki has the BEST anti air in the game. Gouki has the best escapes in the game as well as a dope/scary wake up game. Look at Ken a very strong character/also very solid/well rounded... not too too much more.
I agree 100%
What is his "best antiair in the game"?
@@chungboislim2061 fierce uppercut canceled in the sa1 on last hit/parry
@@ReNiCGaming Thanks for the response! Is it best to just light shoryu if you dont have SA1? I struggle against my friend who love jumping with chun li.
Insanely late comment: do you value defense and mobility more than offense/hitconfirm? I agree with all of your points about gouki’s baked in fundamentals, but i think ken’s hitconfirms and punish w/ shippu make him better. (Not going to comment about oro, since this is out of the scope of this thread)
I was halfway through the video before I noticed Gill
yang really be movin
Akuma could be a higher top tier if his health was higher and with ex moves
akuma should be top tier in online mode, especially hurricane spamming akumas, YEAH!!!!
sean bellow twelve and having to jump to get to his height, i thought twelve as the lowest tier in game
Holy dammit, Q is jumpin' up them ranks.
That's Gill.
Surprised about Alex and Ibuki
Alex made sense Ibuki did not
It’s very hard to see gills picture
I wonder what the Chun-Li vs Gill matchup is lol(real question) even though gill is banned obviously.
yeah his move are faster and extreme damage
Yeah. Ryu is pretty solid, and he can fuck your shit pretty well.
But Urien is just scary. o_o
I thought urien would be higher up
I thought Urien would be a higher tier. Akuma? Pretty weak defense though.
I don’t understand how hat twin is so high but spike hair twin is so low
i would build a similiar list however i think dudley is a little too low and i think akuma is too high maybe by one slot or two mine would have been Mak/Dud/Aku/Ken/Yang. but as you said it's your opinion i just feel dudley is really good against all low tier and doesn't have many terrible match ups i even put him 5/5 against chun/makoto i'm too familiar with dudley vs twins or dudley vs shoto's but i'm pretty sure he's great in those match ups too - perhaps i'm un-educated in these match ups.
Urien going in to smack Elena's ass goddamn bro chill
Not a single person in the comments can even remember Sean's name omg they did my boy nasty
elena better than oro?
is ibuki below q and hugo????
@coreymcguire1993 the general wisdom is the top 5 is chun/yun/ken/makoto/dudley with ryu/yang/akuma/urien right behind them. renic's just a rebel like that
Crazy that people thought akuma was high tier all the way up to 2011
I agree with your tier but i will put Ibuki a little higher she's better than Elena
I think I agree with you this day in age. Although I feel there are some better matchups for Elena.
Urien in the same tier as Hugo, Q, Necro and Remy? Son, the FUCK are you smoking?
Switch Ken and Akuma...
Move Urien into the 2ns tier and we're golden
...Move Chun into SAII should be banned tier (As should Yun's Genei)
JR, Kuroda? Maybe Akuma's low health might be a reason not to be that high, but I can agree on him being a serious high tier.
Health issues is not even an issue if you are basically the safest character on the game
I don't know,I feel like Ibuki is better than Elena with her horrifying cross ups.I main Alex and let me tell you I'd take Elena over Ibuki any time simply because I could land at least a few command grabs.
Ryu, oro, urien low tier??????
I always felt like Ken is above Makoto due to how solid he is, but Makoto has more bullshit.
ken is still good mixup ill give that one to akuma but id say ken has just as powerful corner pressure. mabye even better than akuma
My pet peeve in SF games is people saying low kick. They dumbed down the notations and the gameplay, so people shoudn't ever say low kick=LK. LOL.
I dunno man, you know way more about 3rd strike than i do, but i would think Urien would be a little higher.
I don't get it is top their the row in the red box or the ones in the violet box
So my akumacis just shit.
y is yang doin the running man lol?
1.Chun-Li
2.Yun
3.Ken
4.Makoto
5.Akuma
6.Dudley
7.Urien
8.Yang
9.Ryu
10.Hugo
11.Oro
12.Twelve (Heh) Remy
13.Elena
14.Alex
15.Ibuki
16.Necro
17.Q
18.Sean
19.Twelve
My personal list.
You know the funniest thing? Sean was a high teir character .. untill that faith full day
A lot of people say Sean is worse than Twelve, can someone explain why? I'm a new 3rd strike player
I thought Twelve was worse than sean.
@@NotoriousYEETER 12 is worse but sean can at least do some easy combos but not very effective
thats a dope lil track..I gotta download it and freestyle over it.
How dare you place necro so low
I would put Necro below oro or elena
I dont see akuma being better than ken at all, or dudley or yang even lol but great video- keeping 3S alive !
I would switch ken and makoto.
Q better than Ibuki, Alex and Necro?
I agree with everything but urien, i mean, hes AT LEAST better than ryu
you are crazy for not putting ken up there. double shoryu, easy hit confirms to super, great mixups for waking characters..
Yeah, looks good. I dont know why yang is so good but ive just never fought or seen a good one.
ken lower than makoto and hugo is way up there?
See title :)
nice arcade stick
The 3SO ranking system is stupid. Not knocking the Sean player, because he has a very good Sean but 3SO's ranking is based on doing certain actions repeatedly not on winning.
Sadly all keep away characters will never be at least medium tier
Urien is definitely higher lol
why do you consider gouki better than ken? just curious
Gouki has some better moves than Ken
and 2 secret supers
LOL that comment was a joke
But real talk, Akuma has the best anti-air,wake up game, mix-ups, most supers and best escapes (only reason he´s not higher then Ken or Makoto is because of his shit health, stun gauge and u need 2 super bars to be good, unlike the top 4 characters)
and yea I agree with you on Hugo and 12 (maybe Q even) being worse then Sean and Ibuki and Elena are underrated as shit
mm yes necro yes mmm
Ken over Akuma/Gouki any day, Gouki has his problems, I'd also put Dudley over Yang.
On another note, Oro over Elena any day of the week. I agree with most of it though.
i agree akuma is good but better than ken? im not to sure about that, and i use both. ken more tho lol
i play akuma and i always thought Ken is better then akuma
This is biased because renic mains alex, Q, urien, and dudley. Which is why Akuma is so high, he's got a pretty good favor in those matchups doesn't he?
Poor Yang, always the worst twin :(
I don't agree with the list itself but, I love the video. Great idea, great video.
elena over Ibuki???
naw
are you sure hugo is c teir?
:/
I respect this list to the fullest but ken and akuma should be swapped and then it’s right.
groooooovy
Probably , because Jr Rodriguez has the world record for double perfects in 3soe and he plays Akuma lol
wait, Ryu > Urien or does the placement have nothing to do with the list?
chun shouldnt be above yun. elena shouldn't be higher than oro. hugo should be higher than elena. thats all ive got, other than that i agree.
Akuma is B tier at best
Ken is probably better than akuma and makoto since ken in general can do things better than akuma.
This is my opinion though.
Also makoto needs meter but ken doesn’t to stay safe.
yeah id have ken higher then akuma and tied with makoto
@@wildwest1832 imo ken is better than makoto