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What is the Perfect Software for Architecture & Construction? | ProArchitect
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- What would the perfect software for architecture look like? And does one exist already? Both questions were answered in the video!
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Maybe it would be fair to mention that 3Dexperience comes with a cost of almost 15k per license (11k + 2k per year for maintenance I think). So Dassault Systemes can keep pushing xgenerative as much as they want, as long as the price does not drop, students will stick with a 100-200euros Rhino license (if not cracked), getting Grasshopper for free, now benefiting from Rhino.Inside to connect to other platforms, etc. That directly influences the directions taken by the industry when it comes in investing in software. Being at the forefront of digital technologies is not enough, the perfect software for AEC should also be more open, accessible and consider that AEC is cheaper than other industries because it does not mass-produce the same cars or airplanes, but bespoke buildings instead...
Hi Paul, all valid points and I agree with you completely. We are also trying to advise them to go in the right direction....So...Imagine this - what if the pricing went way down. What if now we have a software that can replace the whole very complicated chain we need to build a building, the process that we see every day (Rhino + GH + Revit + Dynamo + Tekla + WhoKnowsWhat), with one platform. What if student licenses got very cheap and evaluation licenses easily available? In that scenario I would pay for that software more than I would for, lets say Revit, if it is the only one that I need, and if it saves me the headache of transfering geometry from one software to the other...and if it automates my project completely, from the beginning until the very finished object? Lets see how it develops in the next year or so...hold on tight, we might be suprised :) Also, we use Rhino now for 12+ years, wrote a lot of plug-ins for it, and used it for some of the largest projects in the world...and it is an amazing software...but you cannot compare the two. These are completely different categories...the level of precision and automation that Catia has and the ability to automate everything, from the conceptual design to the 3D digital twin, cnc files and workshop drawings, including statical simulations, construction simulations, etc...without (or with very little) programming...that is a completely different category. For students something like Rhino will always be the first choice...but for the industry and building on a large scale with nanometer precision and full parametrisation/automation, there is another weight-class. A class where Rhino plays a great roll, but only as one of the players..it has to be combined with Revit, ArchiCad, Tekla, FEM Software, you name it, in order to bring the project to completion...so maybe we do not have to do that complicated dance any more...after 12+ years in the industry, I know it would save me a lot of headache pills.
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Hi! I am glad to find your channel, I am a new subscriber since today! What you said in this video is exactly what I think about the future. Most of the people is not able to see how the future will be. I already started to work remotely and I also would like to do some research about artificial intelligence implemented in architecture. I want to be part of the evolution and do some contributions, so a channel like this will help me a lot. Thanks!
Good video, I am work in the architecture field and deal with the fabricators on solidworks. I get push back of the transfer that needs to happen from my bim model. I left revit because I got tired of the headaches and constriction it gave me to design. I felt I was more a computer programmer than actual design work that needs to be done. I switch to Archicad and the feeling was way beyond revit, I felt I can concentrate on architecture and not why roof flashing is in conflict when I change a window in revit. I knew of catia but was always thinking it could be overkill for our field, but I do agree that we need to be involved in all phases to help guide the final product. This 3dexperience seems great, but I also think they are creating there own ecosystem as autodesk, which I left because of lack of support and constrictions. If we need to collaborate with an engineer that is not on Dassault system can they jump in, that's the plus of the OpenBIm concept of archicad, which is the Nemetschek group. One concept of the openbim is, if the engineer works great and uses a specific software why force them to change just to be on the same eco system which will result in errors in learning, downtime and the time to get up to speed. This is where I am conflicted, do you see Dassault as a closeBim or OpenBim? How can it interact with other specialty software, example, BRG group vault add on for Rhino? Yes the prices is insane for small architects that see the potential and what to push the market there.
Hi Milos, many French architects, not so young anymore now, have known Dassault System’s Catia for decades, and dreamt to put their hands and fingers on it… It has remained inaccessible though, due to its unmentionable price, if you are not Frank Gehry, and it still is through its web avatar, as Paul said. Nonetheless I obviously concur with your general reasoning, but I do not share your idealistic views on this new « push button » paradigm that it would inaugurate. The complexity of the architecture process, and I mean architecture, not « objects accumulation », cannot do without the iterative, chaotic, un-neat and messy phase of « truth hunting » which is the root of every architectural process. Catia will not solve that. An architectural apparatus is not a car. But the very core of your demonstration is the DNA analogy, and I cannot agree more with you there. Architecture is a philogenetic process.
Bravo for this channel, Milos, it casts an intelligent light on Architecture, probably one of the most unsung profession…
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Coming from mechanical engineering background I used CATIA for my projects I was thinking about it when first decided to make a simulation of my residential structure and their components . Thanks for letting me know right off the bat not to look at other softwares. It made sense first I thought about it because I can choose the materials and assemble and disassemble them . I can not think of any other civo; engineering software that can do things that catia does not have
It looks exactly like a pitch for the software your are describing so why that title? They start to develop that software long time ago and by the time it reached the market, they can only see that no one is buying it. What problem is it solving and is it really our problem? Lets face it! the problem in architecture is not tools (sure i prefere colaborativ apps than a mammoth software) Our problem it is knowledge and data. How to bring the right information for the best decision. we are soon in 2020 with an urge to have an environmental approach in every project but we are still talking about tool that can help us design bad architecture with great facade in a garden from an island, with no clue of where the materials are coming from, the impact on the planet or what is the user experience is.
Hi Milos! Congratulations on a great video! I agree with ALL the requirements you're proposing, pretty much describes the only way forward for us in this industry. I believe that Speckle is attempting a way of moving away from files into just data, so we could connect from any proprietary or open source platform to read and modify the data as you are proposing. I'm sure you already know about it! Thanks for sharing!
Very nice video...I apsolutly agree with you when you are mentioning cloud computing and AI.... regarding perfect software solution I am impression that especially big software companies perposly doesn't want to give one super program... instead they are trying to devide tool's in several of them in order to force us to bay software packages or several softwers
Nice talk,but I think working online is somehow intimidating at the level connection bandwidth affecting the smooth workflow as file size grows..I think graphisoft archicad is working well as it is a bim software with hotlink to rhino(free form modeling) and live link with grasshopper (parametric design) /cinema 4d(modeling and animating) /twin motion(rendering), tekla(structure) .. so u work with different specialized softwares on the same file without impot/export, just a click for live synchronization.
Spot on presentation! As a design and build company we have not been brought up designing in architectural software, although have been used to constructing from it. When we moved to a full end-to-end offering including manufacturing building elements, we selected Solid Edge and Solid Works with Key Shot to produce all our models for the DNA reasons you have highlighted. We are now preparing to move to Catia on the cloud as our primary solution. Time will tell if the savings in automation we imagine will justify the investment.
This is somewhat analogous to IK and FK for character animation where the shoulder can be moved independently but also move with the upper arm yet also be able to play a trill on a keyboard while keeping the remaining arm elements motionless for a moment. With the apps, where some actions are required in several modules they are initiated in the same way and, at the same time actions unique to a module will have their own mode of initiation. In the hobby world FreeCAD, despite its many flaws, has grown partly out of Catia with a range of separate modules that do work together, if imperfectly, but within the desktop environment for the moment. I am not suggesting that FreeCAD would in any way provide what is required, but the concept of integrating modules that are largely parametric is there, and has similar potential for those of us who are not at a professional level.
we need a comparison between rhino grasshopper and catia..for architecture
Great video btw
Glad to follow ur page. u giving useful ideas to make us think differently to change the boring type of Architectures in present. hope to learn from u in future. LETS KEEP WORKING!👏👏
Hi! Thank you for the video
I m learning a lot from you.
I always wanted to automize my work because of all the change i encounter from the design changes. And I know the technology is already there but I couldn t find one affordable. Even Catia I don t think they will provide the system in an affordable price for an individual.
That s why i m start to learn programming with python to automizing my work as much as possible but it looks like it has to be automated from the begening...
The analysis of the status quo is spot on. The conclusion seems very disappointing for an architect but could present a market opportunity for a programmer with the right combination of skills and interests (a rare animal these days).
Hello, I am recent follower and loved your videos. You should take a look at OnShape. It was created by CAD "legends" from the creators of Solid Works / Dassault Systems. This app is online since 2012 or 2013, can't remember and nowadays is very mature. Take a look at it. I used to be a traditional CAD user (Catia, SW, Inventor), but once i started using OnShape never looked back.
He wished it -we got it, at least for now. Work from home is viable option for now. Bright side of pandemic..
Really excellent video
Thanks for the video, I always recommend this channel.
Hi I'm an architect who used to work for a company and eventually free lance. I deal with small renovation projects. How is this useful. My challenge is to create design fast including cost.
I wonder, did you still think the same way as you did in this video?
I have an idea. I need to speak to you directly. How can I contact you directly? Your DNA concept mesh with my concept can work. I just need a conversation with you.
Automate!