My first coverage from Cinegear 2024. I've got several more videos to come with some GREAT lenses. DZOFilm, Cooke, V35, and more. This was a FUN TRIP. Stay tuned.
I'm not sure if this is the flagship cinema camera C70 owners were hoping for but it's definitely the big boy camera I was waiting for as a R5C shooter.
Well, I would imagine they are leaving room for higher numbers, like another C500, or a future C600. I don’t think this is meant as a flagship, just a great budget offering, like the Sony Burano (against which it seems to be competing).
As an R5c owner who owns RF glass and wants full frame 6K RAW and high dynamic range, this hopefully will address the itch that Red was previously scratching.
The triple native ISO sets a completely different benchmark for the multi-purpose cine world. And that’s not something a camera maker can fake in firmware. Either they have the circuits designed and in the pipeline already, or it may be quite a while before Canon has any competition in this area. Definitely caught me by surprise. I had been waiting for a next generation FX9, but maybe this will serve my needs as well or better and more importantly I may manage to get it before the end of the year.
To see everything I love about the Canon image built into a low light camera is definitely an attention grabber. I feel like they might get attention from Studio Filmmakers again, especially since the original C500 was the low light camera of choice for studio movies when it first came out. It’s a nice precursor of what’s to come from Canon, since they still have 5 more cinema cameras dropping this year.
I didn’t see the startup cycle on the C400, but generally Canon cameras are very fast, the R5 C and C70 are 3-8 seconds on average. The RED is significantly slower, but they’ve been steadily improving on it. My V-Raptor X boots in about 30 seconds, which generally doesn’t bother me too often.
I have an FX9 and I am thinking of going to the C400. Also thinking if it would be a downgrade but looking at it on paper the C400 beats it and does more. What do you think?
Hmm, I’m not sure what you’d really be switching for. Do you? Also, if you have any amount of good E mount glsss, you may want to just stick with Sony. They make excellent cameras and the FX9 is no slouch.
I have wanted to add a 12800 capable camera to my kit but had been holding off to see what Sony would release for a next gen FX9. Now the C400 drops with a third ISO option. I’m 90% sold except for the fact that the vast majority of small crew commercial projects here in the Northeast specify Sony (FX9, FX6, FX3) which at present I borrow/rent as needed.
@@nick_salazar good question.. I really love the light and compact body. It’s cool to have such a beast of a camera in a small package. Also, my biggest gripe with the FX9 is that in order to get slow mo I have to crop in a bit on the sensor and I lose autofocus in the process. But those reasons are perhaps not enough, what do you think?
Hmm. For me it would probably come down to glass. Do you have a bunch of good native E mount glass? If so maybe just keep the FX9. Or consider adding an A9 III if you want something compact. That camera looks VERY nice for the size and price.
@@nick_salazar Hmm I have two Sigma Art’s, 24-70 2.8 and the amazing 35mm 1.2. Nothing else really. I’m no fan of DSLRs, I must have internal ND’s, XLR ports and proper buttons on the body. But nice idea tho!
Canon just needs to put the sensor from the C400 into an FX3 style body, and for the XLR module give it 32-bit float. Even if they don’t have internal ND (because it’s very unlikely but there are people still hoping). The TH-cam film/content creator will go apeshit and purchase them. I don’t care so much about Canon third party lenses although Sigma and Tamron are going to make them in the future. I always buy first party lenses either way. But I hope Canon release more fast primes, like 14mm 1.8, 24mn 1,4, 35 1.4 VCM was already launched, 50mm 1.4 VCM, 85mm 1.4 VCM). All the missing primes makes it hard to go into Canon system right now.
Lol how do they not know the miliseconds of their own camera? It most likely means that its not that much faster than previous models and they're just hyping the claim. Just marketing talk. Anyway, seems like a great camera from a c70 user but at the same time kind of a letdown not having dgo sensor.
Yeah I thought that too. I just did some tests today with R5c RAW and ProRes RAW to Ninja, and 800 or 3200 gets baked in at capture time as it sets the gain of the sensor.
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People may complain about canon being slow to release cameras! But When they do release a camera its worth the wait!
Very excited for this camera for my bread and butter commercial / corporate work. Thanks
I'm not sure if this is the flagship cinema camera C70 owners were hoping for but it's definitely the big boy camera I was waiting for as a R5C shooter.
Well, I would imagine they are leaving room for higher numbers, like another C500, or a future C600. I don’t think this is meant as a flagship, just a great budget offering, like the Sony Burano (against which it seems to be competing).
my man was asking the hard questions
I’m here for you Barry!
Canon c400 talk begins at 3:35
Great meeting you man. Keep up the good work!
Likewise BT, great meeting you!
Imagine if the C400 had built in IBIS, it would literally be a perfect Run and Gun Cinema camera
I’m getting it!
As an R5c owner who owns RF glass and wants full frame 6K RAW and high dynamic range, this hopefully will address the itch that Red was previously scratching.
The triple native ISO sets a completely different benchmark for the multi-purpose cine world. And that’s not something a camera maker can fake in firmware. Either they have the circuits designed and in the pipeline already, or it may be quite a while before Canon has any competition in this area. Definitely caught me by surprise. I had been waiting for a next generation FX9, but maybe this will serve my needs as well or better and more importantly I may manage to get it before the end of the year.
To see everything I love about the Canon image built into a low light camera is definitely an attention grabber.
I feel like they might get attention from Studio Filmmakers again, especially since the original C500 was the low light camera of choice for studio movies when it first came out. It’s a nice precursor of what’s to come from Canon, since they still have 5 more cinema cameras dropping this year.
Do you how fast this camera turns on? Is it significantly faster when compared to your red?
I didn’t see the startup cycle on the C400, but generally Canon cameras are very fast, the R5 C and C70 are 3-8 seconds on average. The RED is significantly slower, but they’ve been steadily improving on it. My V-Raptor X boots in about 30 seconds, which generally doesn’t bother me too often.
@@nick_salazar thank you, appreciate it
I have an FX9 and I am thinking of going to the C400. Also thinking if it would be a downgrade but looking at it on paper the C400 beats it and does more. What do you think?
Hmm, I’m not sure what you’d really be switching for. Do you? Also, if you have any amount of good E mount glsss, you may want to just stick with Sony. They make excellent cameras and the FX9 is no slouch.
I have wanted to add a 12800 capable camera to my kit but had been holding off to see what Sony would release for a next gen FX9. Now the C400 drops with a third ISO option. I’m 90% sold except for the fact that the vast majority of small crew commercial projects here in the Northeast specify Sony (FX9, FX6, FX3) which at present I borrow/rent as needed.
@@nick_salazar good question.. I really love the light and compact body. It’s cool to have such a beast of a camera in a small package. Also, my biggest gripe with the FX9 is that in order to get slow mo I have to crop in a bit on the sensor and I lose autofocus in the process.
But those reasons are perhaps not enough, what do you think?
Hmm. For me it would probably come down to glass. Do you have a bunch of good native E mount glass? If so maybe just keep the FX9. Or consider adding an A9 III if you want something compact. That camera looks VERY nice for the size and price.
@@nick_salazar Hmm I have two Sigma Art’s, 24-70 2.8 and the amazing 35mm 1.2. Nothing else really.
I’m no fan of DSLRs, I must have internal ND’s, XLR ports and proper buttons on the body. But nice idea tho!
yeah sony has IS but...most of pro videographers use it on gimbal and anyway IBIS on sony as we know is not as effective as canon E stabilizer hehe
Canon just needs to put the sensor from the C400 into an FX3 style body, and for the XLR module give it 32-bit float. Even if they don’t have internal ND (because it’s very unlikely but there are people still hoping). The TH-cam film/content creator will go apeshit and purchase them. I don’t care so much about Canon third party lenses although Sigma and Tamron are going to make them in the future. I always buy first party lenses either way. But I hope Canon release more fast primes, like 14mm 1.8, 24mn 1,4, 35 1.4 VCM was already launched, 50mm 1.4 VCM, 85mm 1.4 VCM). All the missing primes makes it hard to go into Canon system right now.
The C400 does have internal ND.
@@nick_salazar yeahs i know, i meant if canon were to put the sensor in FX3 style body, we can’t expect internal ND from that.
Lol how do they not know the miliseconds of their own camera? It most likely means that its not that much faster than previous models and they're just hyping the claim. Just marketing talk. Anyway, seems like a great camera from a c70 user but at the same time kind of a letdown not having dgo sensor.
"how do they not know the milliseconds of their own camera?"
It is indeed a known specification; it's just not public information (yet).
pretty sure only RED raw is like that re ISO mapping
Yeah I thought that too. I just did some tests today with R5c RAW and ProRes RAW to Ninja, and 800 or 3200 gets baked in at capture time as it sets the gain of the sensor.
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Guess who’s there around 01:33? 😊
Haha looks like some clueless poser ;-)