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Love your rant! I could rant on LUTs and GAMMA too. I feel you might have mangled GAMMA a bit, or might have given the wrong impression. As you said, same for me, I might be wrong ;) GAMMA is an adjustment to the image to get the linear physical data to look more pleasing to us--more detail in shadows and highlights. A RAW image without GAMMA is perfectly viewable (simple transform at 18% gray say). The difficulty is that we don't have a term for the transform and curve used to translate RAW sensor data to our 8-bit color space (everything ends up 8-bit, as you know). I guess LOG curve comes the closest, but there again, the camera manufacturers provide "LOG" curves to bring in garbage data from the sensor for more detail in 8-bit. The bottom line is that when you process RAW you need to curve and transform it into 8-bit color spaces (so you can view it on your monitor). So your point still stands, but it isn't really GAMMA because it's an artistic decision, not an industry agreed "look". And LUTs are always 8-bit. There's no point changing a color to something you can't see ;) So I feel LUTs have nothing to do with raw image acquisition or processing. So not only do we have misleading terms, as you point out, we're missing terms that explain what does happen in the pipeline. I agree with you that all sensors are fundamentally the same. I rant about it on my channel. However, I do wonder if ARRI, because they make their own sensors, do more calculations on RAW data coming from the sensor and use a DUAL ISO (60 fps 30 frames normal, 30 frames lower ISO amplification) to create better falloff. If they do have some special electronics it might give them a better image. Cinema cameras in general have better video images than hybrids-IMHO. If I had to bet though, I'd bet you're right. ARRI sensors are no different than any others.

Many features use one lens. 28mm is the most used on a S35mm sensor. NiSi have the new 18mm, 40mm and 135mm. I think you could do it all with those 3. But locking yourself into one lens means you have to work for it and that constraint makes the film more interesting.

But i disagree about "focus rollof" and "image rendering" being wrong description. Both terms arent used as technical in any means, yet that explains mix of characteristics in the way of human preseption. Its like describing taste. You dont care about engridients but you still can explain flavor.

By the way there is no such thing as native roll off on sensor anyway. Because all sensors records only in linear, including ARRI's Alef sensors. Its all just the way thay transform that linear data to be displayed. That's all about gamma aplaied to linear source.

Micro contrast just shuld be changed to high frequency contrast. And suddenly that will have a lot of sense.

Who is “they”?

Just got the 25mm Arles. Good God........such a great champion lens. Heavy suckers though......

I might be wrong, but I thought that the stills in DSMC meant that the video was so good (and 14-bit RAW data capture) that you could use it for stills. I’m probably wrong on this one, don’t know where I heard it. Also, some people like me still shoot film photos occasionally because the process is fun, and it’s a good (kind of) cheap way to experiment with other ways of photography. Because all my cameras are APS-C, and I don’t want to spend all my money on a full frame camera, I sometimes shoot film. Other than that, great video!

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Xeen: the design is not the same. Salazar" Can I see the design, Xeen: no but trust me, bro. The hope that I will trust them is close to zero as we know how things go. The images look fantastic on the other hand.

A local store accidentally listed this for 23$. I ordered it of course, but unfortunately they had to cancel...

love the gaffer :)

Thank you Nick! have you found any drop-off in sharpness when you use the Breakthrough VND filter?

Finally someone is talking about these amazing lenses!

Wow. Looks great!

Nice! How would you rank/compare these with the DZOFilm Arles primes?

where you at with the feature? i subbed to the channel to see your journey in the feature. can you update us in a video please? all the best.

1917 was shot on a Zeiss 40mm Prime.. as Roger Deakins has spoke about in interviews

Hi Nick - really interesting and huge thanks for your thoughts. I have very similar background and I suppose there for all of this caught my attention. Currently I'm working mostly on documentaries. Shooting some commercial work in between but really prefer as close to a cinematic style as possible, even thought most scenarios are shot using available light. I'm currently using Milvus's that resemble for me the style I got while using Leica M-lenses in stills. Most of the time I use Red Komodo and building up a set up for my next project I've been wondering if I should invest on small set of Pavo's. Have you tried them out and how would you see them as in comparison to Arles? I'd assume Arles are cleaner/sharper but..

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Thank you. I've always hated the hype with Film look. It makes little sense, if the past was so great, nobody would have moved away from it. I love beautiful clear glass

Lumix has a partnership with DJI so using their gimbals in combination with for example their LiDAR AF units you can do exactly that with Lumix S lenses and Lumix cameras. So not just racking focus manually using the AF motors but also getting LiDAR AF using the DJI LiDAR units. Not sure if they have that with other brands like Canon or Sony but with Lumix cameras (a select few of the newer ones) you can do exactly that. How well it works i'm not sure as i haven't tried it but i've heard it works good. I'm not sure if you can use DJI's wireless focus handles to manually focus using Lumix S lenes though, might just be possible via their gimbals.

it probably doesnt exists because of politics with different brands.

good disruptive rant! 👌

Okay, so after further clarification from the comments section (thanks everyone!) it appears there are a couple ways other than the RED app to achieve this method. None of them are the simple solution I imagine, where you just pair a generic handwheel with your favorite mirrorless camera. Again, that's possible with existing hardware, it's just a software problem. So my request still stands. Anyway, here are the current methods for "motorless" follow focus: 1. RED Control App - allows control via iPhone app only, of any AF lens connected to the RED's RF mount (either native RF or adapted lenses) 2. ARRI EF Mount - allows handwheel control, for AF lenses with EF mount only 3. SONY camera control app - similar to the RED solution, you're pulling focus via phone screen only (either native E mount or adapted lenses). 4. DJI camera control (Ronin 4D, certain gimbals, and the Lidar Focus Pro) - certain cameras and certain lenses will allow wireless control. This requires the camera be mounted into one of these systems, has limited compatibility (mostly L-mount, or E-mount, perhaps the Blackmagic Pocket EF cameras), allows handwheel control via DJI hand unit and potentially the Tilta remote grips. Again, none of these are "pair a handwheel to your camera, then pull focus on any attached AF lens" ... which we CAN AND SHOULD HAVE. Let's do this, camera manufacturers. Please!

I totally agree. There are two cameras that can do this. The Ronin 4D, and the Iphone :D lol and i just checked my Sony A1 can do it with the control app but there is no compatible hardware. but i can focus pull only using an tablet with wireless video too

man you are a genius

Well dji ronin 4d does it by itself with no wireless focus motor. And if you want follow focus wheel proper you would just by the dji three channel follow focus. So your idea is definitely possible.

Conceptually it's a simple idea but it depends on how the hardware and software interface. We don't even know if the existing focus wheels can even communicate with each other. This is why open standards are so important, so that everyone uses the same tech and then implementing what you just said would be a piece of cake

That sounds like a great idea 💡

i think sony can do this with the app as well

You can do this with the EF mount for Arri cameras, you get full focus, iris, metadata and stabilisation. Plus with a Hi-5 or WCU-4 you can communicate straight to the camera.

The only camera I know I can do this with is my BM pocket 4K on the original DJI ronin S gimble. When connecting to the camera via usb I can focus with the wheel on the gimble. Super useful! I so wish this was possible on handheld units and not a gimble.

Well... it works with Sony camera :) So it means they're aware of that. But yeah as a Komodo owner that has same tech, it's soooo frustrating.

Yes please. Same goes for controlling all camera functions AND for example autofocus (on capable mirrorless cameras) via an external monitor. just exactly like you would tap on the camera LCD. there are some kinda basic slow and glitchy options for some cameras out there but nothing really is perfect. all it need would be a monitor with a good touchscreen (or just use a smartphone/tablet) and an open standard for communicaton all camera manufacturers would stick to. not even new hardware. just a bit of code. it is so annoying that we still live in the dark ages in this regard. we could build so much more flexible and better rigs with the function.

you know whats funny ? yongnuo included a wireless controller that you can use to pull focus and control aperture , all for 99$ , works with their 230$ lens with the "WL" mark ( 56 1.4, 33 1.4, 11 1.8 ) it completely bypasses the camera control by just taking over the lens

I kind of want something different. I want the Canon AF and face detection software in the R5c/C400 to control a tilta nano focus motor so I can use my Cine glass with Canon autofocus. I’m still waiting for my DJI Focus Pro to arrive and I even tried designing my own (it’s hard) till the DJI came out.

Sony have same app for FX line cameras - Monitor and Control. In this app you can even make A and B focus points. If we are talking about Tilta Nano II it all ready works with BalckMagic camera app for Iphone :) I think it is very simple - companys like Tilta just wants to sell their focus motors 😊

I experimented with follow focus on my RF AF lenses on my R5c and found that even with linear response on the focus ring after a few racks forwards and backwards the calibration would drift slowly over time. I’m not entirely sure how AF works as I’m not a canon engineer (although I do work in software and electronics by day), but I strongly suspect their focus is “relative” and not “absolute focal point values” in their focus by wire system based on my experiments with many RF lenses. I’m totally guessing.

Dji Focus lidar Pro will focus pana/leica lens w internal focus motor. Auto or manual. Think its a Lumix thang. So yeah like zoom f 3 should trigger record w camera record stsrt /stop. To have synced audio instead of pulling the phone out to go to the app to stop the audio . Oh and miss a sjot😂Thank You

PUT YOUR BIRD IN THIS VIDEO.

Where the side handles from Boss. I know that's really why you made this video, to show them off...

Bro. Someone already invented the controller for the APP you pointed out. 2. Don't ever make a video without including your BIRD IN IT.

Why would you need a third party to make the wheel handle,,, For example, if Sony made their internal software capable to do this, they should also make the wheel hardware as well, so they could make the money on the units!!! It is still a great idea but a company making the camera should also make the controller as communication would be more robust within its own algorithms, architecture etc.

100% I'm with you on this.

This is a hilariously accurate rant! I’m on board. How much do you think it’d be a “paid for” feature though? The money that’s in follow focus systems must be pretty high. Great idea though. It’d do away with mounting and powering focus motors. All the lens data could be communicated over the network connection. It’s kinda crazy I’ve never heard anyone else think about it!

As a working 1st AC, I've never agreed more with anyone in the world than I do with you right now. I've had the exact same thought for literally years. I've reserved myself to the idea that something like the CinePi or OctopusCinema Camera (Open source home built cinema cameras with off the shelf image sensors and computers running the OS) would have the community develop the standard that then could be either also home built and then put into a cnc'd knob and case like a Arri or Preston hand unit, or hacked into a DJI or Tilta hand unit or convince one of these more entry level wireless fizz product companies to support it. After that, it takes 1 person to reverse engineer the lens communications between a Sony Lens and Censor, Canon, Nikon, Sigma ect... and trust me a hacker faced with a problem around propriety and a dream is a dangerous combination. A guy even reversed engineered red mags because older units were dying on him and red refused to service or replace them... only to learn red was just using off the shelf m.2 SSD's and a serial number verification algorithm to say whether the red mag was legit or not in camera. Anyways a long way of saying, I agree, thanks for being the voice of reason!

This looks great! Any recommendations for attaching to the npf side without a battery? I can’t seem to find any kind of cap for the npf slot.

Love my Cooke SP3 lenses. The images from the Cooke lenses are definitely different from my other Nikon, Canon and Irix lenses. They do create beautiful images.

as my cinematography teacher says - why do you need location scouting, why do you need a production designer, a prop designer, if you shot everything with an open aperture? You could just as well have filmed the entire scene in your yard, with your Christmas tree in the background, and no one would ever notice the difference.