update, I did one more 0-60 today and first rip it did a 2.31 and I haven't charged it since this video, didn't change a thing. 1.58 60ft and coasted a 6.20x @105 in the 1/8th on a completely normal road in Mexico
im betting the llower battery is easier to put the max power out for that percentage, i personally think if its fully charged and on a rip its putting alot more power to all wheels while lower percentage can put it all down
Kyle forgot to tell you…the car needs to learn the surface and it will always get faster but then you fight the battery level dropping. Plus im pretty sure when you kill power from the fireman loop that resets a lot of the driving surface learning data, range, suspension, etc the car has defaults but needs to learn like a baby in a lot of ways. Cant wait to see what you turn it into!!!!
Something to keep in mind as it looses weight. Tires they use for electric cars are extremely stiff tires. That way they can handle the weight. As you remove weight, they will lose the ability to grip. Might change them out for some more normal tires as long as they can handle the weight.
@@dookiebooger9967 this is what needs to be done. The roof glass weighs a lot less than you expect though. If they were to swap it with steel plate like someone said it will weigh more. Also swap the air suspension for the unplugged coil over setup. Wheels and tires can be lightened a decent amount as well. The battery and motors together make up about 1500-1600 pounds of the car. Make sure you keep the aero that is feeding the radiators or you will start having battery heat issues.
This car would perform a lot better as a track car now that it is lighter and be able to take tighter or faster turns. It'll probably dominate in spectator drags around the freedom factory.
I think as a spectator drag car, the speeds aren’t to the point that aerodynamic are really a factor. The lighter body with faster acceleration and later breaking is what really matters.
This will smash in spectator drags…no worry if you bump and all the remaining weight is at the axel line…they handle so much better than what you think…minus the brakes they truly are crap.
I dont think they have any adaptive tech in them to learn anything as far as driving characteristics or driver input.. they have the thing with their auto pilot that sends off the information it did when used.. like iphone does with its analytics “to improve security and functionality”. But as far as the car adjusting anything based on performance i highly doubt it.. traction ctrl works based off of individual tire rotation sensed with typical hall effect sensors on each drive axle off the motors so is more of a direct drive immediate adjustment to stop the car from veering off to one side if shit happened.. the abs just senses the vehicle g force, speed, and possibly obstacle avoidance to apply the brakes differently to slow the weight down without losing as much grip….
@@mattr6344 Right? And what a car to make that comment about. It's basically scrap value at this point - to NORMAL people. So... What are they going to do to the value of it?????
I used to replace glass on cars, the top glass on Teslas weigh so much it would be so beneficial to get rid of it. This is a really cool project so I’m hyped to see where it goes
Couple things. We often think of it as traction control because in an ICE vehicle timing is pulled out and the brakes are applied momentarily to try and regain traction, but in an electric car its actually torque control. Electric motors can provide an immense amount of both low end torque and precise control of torque. The computers in electric cars are constantly calculating what it thinks the limits of traction would be and are supplying the motors with just enough power to produce that torque. That's why, as other's have said, the computer has to "relearn" the weight of the vehicle and how it behaves when you floor it. In fact, "drift mode" in an electric car is pretty much disabling the torque control so that whenever you floor it the tires just instantly break loose and start spinning. Next, tires have a weight rating not for holding the vehicle off the ground, but for when you are slinging the weight around by accelerating or braking hard. What that means is if you put a soft compound tire on a heavy car, you end up just tearing off the surface of the rubber like how chalk, a pencil, or an eraser leaves material behind. If you use a hard compound on a light car, you just slide across the surface. So tire manufactures have to carefully balance the compound, with how long the tire is supposed to last AND the weight of the vehicle it is going to go on. This is also why motorcycle tires can have a very soft compound. *You need softer compound tires that have a lower weight rating now that the car is lighter.* Finally, this car would perform a lot better as a track car now and be able to take tighter or faster turns. It'll probably dominate in spectator drags around the freedom factory.
Perhaps for You among the common masses that speed, acceleration seems it would be exciting, amazing, etc. ??!! Have You ever experienced even riding in such a vehicle with such acceleration, speed as this ? => Seemingly NOT Also, many of the vehicles which the BoostedBoiz, PFI, Cleetus, James, Cooper, Nate, Hayden, Tom, Emelia, Alex, et al own, have, perform much better than this too, as many on the drag strip !!
@@fredd3.14 @senilecanuck9402 clearly You both lack the proper ides, concepts, principles, information, knowledge and simply 'Guessing' with some little ideas You have !! Perhaps see the man which modified his Model S Plaid for racing, reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing Good Luck
Always remember to roll down the windows all the way before you take the door off. It's easier not having broken glass. Sort of like a protector in some way. I don't know just my two cents🎉
One important note about the 12v cut loop you were talking about is that while opening that circuit opens the contactors in the battery it also disables the thermal management systems so it can actually cause a thermal runaway condition that the TMS was handling to get out of hand. That said, it is still a good idea to unplug that when you are working on this car :)
@@eriklarson9137 Did You work on electric vehicles back in the 1970's as the ones used in university physical plant departments and for golf carts ??!!
I think you only made it so that there isn't as much load, which the motor controller saw and adjusted for it. I believe if you have made the car heavier, to a point the times would still be consistent. I think you are only effecting range with taking weight off until you play with the motor controller, you have to tell it to go faster and accelerate on a different curve persay due to the change in available traction. So adjustments for acceleration and traction are needed electronically to make it faster and quicker and to reap the benefits of being lighter besides a longer range. Beware, I might be wrong
And all honesty you probably did the smartest thing to get a cheap plaid at the time you got it.. and I've seen you at the gas station and to be honest I would just keep it as a daily for around the area it looks way too nice to hack up... But that wouldn't be much fun now would it... And you're not the typical person with typical cars , your car's make your living and the crazier the better on the internet
USE A PAINT MARKER AND MARK ANY MOUNTING OR ADJUSTMENT BOLTS/TABS ON THE CAMERA ARRAYS. They are usually marked by the manufacturer who calibrated them. Still do your own to be safe. They must be calibrated to function correctly. At Tesla they set the vehicle and use reference points that must be in spec. There are usually turn dial adjustments for each axis. make sure they are marked. B is for build is wanting to reuse them on a new body. The height from the ground. Pitch and yaw angle from its mounting point aswell as distance from the same points of reference from other on board cameras. ..the cameras take data collected from different cameras to make decisions. Those cameras are programmed to compare different data points. If even the smallest detail is off all of the data is wrong resulting in possible running you into something or worse.
typical nonsense, lacking with proper information, knowledge, clear, certain ignorance about battery, power output and effect upon electric motors !! Does Your computer, electronic device perform loess, slower with less battery charge ??!! => NO
It's just as fast from 80-100% SOC. You lose .1s in the 1/4 when SOC falls in the 70's. You lose another .1s when SOC falls in the 60's. By 20% SOC, the Plaid can still rip a 9.9 in the 1/4 (vs 9.2 at 80-100%SOC)
I absolutely love seeing entrepreneurs doing what they love and becoming successful!! Kyle you inspire me to take my business to the next level!! Innovation is the key to success, always looking ahead!
*You need softer compound tires that have a lower weight rating now that the car is lighter.* Tires have a weight rating not for holding the vehicle off the ground, but for when you are slinging the weight around by accelerating or braking hard. What that means is if you put a soft compound tire on a heavy car, you end up just tearing off the surface of the rubber like how chalk, a pencil, or an eraser leaves material behind. If you use a hard compound on a light car, you just slide across the surface. So tire manufactures have to carefully balance the compound with how long the tire is supposed to last AND the weight of the vehicle it is going to go on. This is also why motorcycle tires can have a very soft compound.
@@Jake-bt3fc @1234567890CAB; perhaps attempt Your ideas to explain the results with the man in Canada who modified his Model S Plaid fro racing and results achieved ?? reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing Quite obviously You will not be able to properly figure, assess, evaluate, differentiate, discern, analize, determine since You clearly lack the proper knowledge, principles within physics, forces, materials, mechanics, mechanical, structures, electrical, electronics, engineering, etc. Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 “perhaps attempt your ideas to explain the results” Perhaps you should attempt to proofread your nonsense before you send it to my inbox and waste my time.
@@Jake-bt3fc I second this statement. I'm not sure what he's trying to get at, but neither of us have gotten into any of the physics yet. Furthermore, in the example he just provided he specifies "M/T 275 Street radials on the rear," thus proving my statement of stickier tires contributing to an improvement. I agree that the weight rating/ load index is not the singular contributing factor, but my understanding is that it, together with the width, limits how soft the compound could be. When you have a wider tire, you can use a softer compound and not change the weight rating because the weight is spread out over a wider area. Each square inch does not have to grip or resist sliding/tearing as hard or as much. An eraser is easier to tear up and rub material off when held on its end or on a corner than when it is held flat. According to the physics the force of friction is only the normal force, or how hard the two surfaces are pressed together, multiplied by the coefficient of friction. Surface area is not considered in these simple equations. My point is in real life we must consider surface area because of material failure.
I think this, "mod" would have gone "hand in hand" with a new set of ultra light weight rims(something aling the lines of te37 or some Weld wheels or Belak for the ultra drag look) and some mickey Thompsons et street tires. I hope you have something planned along those lines. Keep up the good work brother, love the content.
just thought of sumting , you find another realy light and streamlined dragrace rolling chassis like that rwd civic or maibe even a drag rail and build the whole drive setup of the plaid in it , would take quite a bit of reprogramming the electronics of tesla but it would make for a verry fast car , the drivetrain can be run right to the ragged edge of spinning the reartires all the time as it allready does so automaticly , wonder if they ever made a 4 wheel drive setup with a tesla drivetrain as for putting away the tesla parts : get some large pallet bins or stackable palletsides fill those up with the parts borrow someones forklift truck and set them on top of the officespace in the garage , might be able to sell it off in the future if youre not using it anymore
“You down to go with me to 0-60 it?” *Wyatt before Kyle could even finish his sentence* “NO!!” lol Wyatt was not tryna be anywhere near the inside of that car while testing haha
If you actually want to meaningfully reduce the weight you'll need to deal with the batteries. Everything else on the car is already as light as possible by design - you're only going to gain so much by cutting. That battery is good for several hundred miles of range which is overkill for what you're doing. Best bet would be get rid of it and go with one from a smaller electric car (Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt, etc). AEM makes what's effectively a standalone ECU for the Tesla (VCU200). It won't care if you ditch all the electronics and it's probably your only option if you want to start messing with stuff any deeper. At a certain point you should just buy the Tesla motors from a wrecker and throw them in a lighter chassis. See Rywire's Tesla swapped Honda stuff for inspiration.
Your post is clearly, obviously certain among the many ignorant masses with more invalid, incorrect, baseless nonsense. Perhaps see the man which modified his Model S Plaid for racing, reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 I'm an automotive engineer who designs these btw. I don't really see the point you're trying to make. Their last vid they managed to get it down to 4000lbs with just about everything missing. As I said, there's not a whole lot more room for loss unless they drop the battery. If they drop to a couple Volt/Leaf packs or similar they can easily shed 700-1000lbs. Good luck dropping that with wheels and tires. Is 1000hp in a 4240lb car fun? Sure. Is 1000hp in a 3240lb car more fun? Probably.
@@jsheradin According to Your comments, including this reply, You do not seem to have the expertise of, with, within a design engineer, any type motor vehicle, especially electric vehicles. My basis is my design experience, expertise within engineering for over 45 years along with mechanics, etc. Good Luck -> Bye Bye
@@newtonfirefly3584 Again, I don't see a point you're trying to make. You come in argumentative and dismissive but everything I said is true. This is a heavy car, 4000lbs with a Leroy style cage. Most of the weight is in the stock battery. They don't benefit from the range that it can offer so *for their application* they're better off going with a smaller pack. Should they still do light wheels and tires? Of course but it will only gain so much. Leaf/Volt/Prius packs are plentiful and can be configured to deliver the peak current they require. They'll need an unlocked VCU to make it happen. The AEM VCU200 is a suitable option. It's able to control the PEUs, TMM, BMS, etc with way more flexibility than they'll get hacking up the original computer. There's already others out there such as Rywire who are Lego piecing these things together. If anything I said is actually incorrect or baseless please let me know; I'm always happy to learn.
@@jsheradin As stated, You proposed idea has valid concepts for power/weight, especially since for drag racing the amount of electrical charge storage is minimal; perhaps comparable to having a small fuel cell. However, as stated, with Tesla, Rimac, all production electric, hybrid vehicles and many modern production vehicles from 2010 onward, the computer control, S.w, F/W are completely locked, unchangeable, intentionally, purposely with the manufacture retain all controls, updates, modification, limitations, in addition to the complet, all-time, location tracking, data gathering, storage, etc. Thus, no modifications to, with, any of these vehicles can be accomplished which interface with the computer. thus, also these vehicles, including Tesla, Rimac, Nissan, GM/Chevrolet, Porsche, etc. are not good platforms to use beyond the production version, especially for any possible modifications, improvements, except removal of items which are not connected with the computer control system. Then add the detriment with retained manufacture control with each vehicle by remote, wireless connections which can also have automatic loss of use with disconnection too. Are You beginning to comprehend the situation, reality better and thus my posted comments, replies ? hopefully this reply will assist You further with Your thoughts, ideas, concepts, views, perspectives, perceptions, mindset, though there are many more details within these designs that perhaps only engineers, developers have the proper knowledge, which are simple and basic within those with these basis. All The Best, Sincerely
Have you not seen the model 3 that’s basically a skate board brought it’s 0-60 down from 3.1 to 2. Something the power to weight ratio changes and allows it to accelerate faster it won’t produce anymore power which is what you’re saying with the software but less weight will make it faster.
@@zethloveless7238 grammar semantics at that point he was concerned with 0-60 times not getting any faster/quicker whatever you’d like to say reducing weight will help because the electric motors have less mass while still pushing out the same hp and tq to accelerate it’s basic physics at this point he’s traction limited and needs a stickier and wider tire with a lighter wheel setup.
Blue plug is probably a camera wire, looks like all the others I've seen and the other plug probably goes to the center console and likely a vehicle dynamics sensor and/or ORC (seatbelts) module.
I’m sure your last pass was 2.35 because the tires were warmed up but I’m now curious what would happen with a better tire. I’m sure you can’t go crazy grippy because that might break things but I think with the right tire it could get a faster 60ft.
Probably more to do with the car still learning how to optimise its launch now it weights alot less. Different tyre would deffo help as the current compound is also optimised at the cars factory weight
Would disabling TC like Chet and run drag radials or slicks for cushion and just let it eat fully unleashed work? Maybe taking the stock suspension out? I think it would be nasty on prep with slicks with everything off lol
Interesting👍 Will follow this for sure For the moment I would say you need to work on traction getting lighter make it struggle for traction especially front end
Do You have any actual basis, knowledge within physics, aerodynamics, air flow ??!! Obviously NOT !! Just some ideas, about some that You have heard, seen comments, etc. which are based in some simplified versions at most, and the rare few with actual proper knowledge ! =>Thus, You begin with "I think .." but actually just propose the importance with aerodynamics =>thus, an expert should be consulted, involved. Good Luck
if the accelerator pedal feeds a ramping voltage signal to the ecu then maybe replace the pedal pot with a button that supplies a discrete input to the controller. no lag on the pedal.
update, I did one more 0-60 today and first rip it did a 2.31 and I haven't charged it since this video, didn't change a thing. 1.58 60ft and coasted a 6.20x @105 in the 1/8th on a completely normal road in Mexico
Civic body shop? Like b is for builds r69? Said he talked to him .. 😅
Thanks man this is creative that's what I'm talking about keep doing you I'm betting on you
im betting the llower battery is easier to put the max power out for that percentage, i personally think if its fully charged and on a rip its putting alot more power to all wheels while lower percentage can put it all down
Maybe the car had to relearn it’s grip limits
Kyle please please put the black nsx body on the awd tesla chassy 😭😭
Kyle bringing back the personal trainer like an absolute chad. We salute you sir.
She is disgusting
🗿 we go gym
As a Chad myself, I approve of this message
I’ll also give this a Chad stamp of approval!
She needs to be in proper Florida clothing 😂
Kyle forgot to tell you…the car needs to learn the surface and it will always get faster but then you fight the battery level dropping. Plus im pretty sure when you kill power from the fireman loop that resets a lot of the driving surface learning data, range, suspension, etc the car has defaults but needs to learn like a baby in a lot of ways. Cant wait to see what you turn it into!!!!
Dope 💯🙏
Legend Chet!
I was wondering that exact thing when I saw the restraint system light code on the dash. I guessed it did play a role.
Stop lying
Something to keep in mind as it looses weight. Tires they use for electric cars are extremely stiff tires. That way they can handle the weight. As you remove weight, they will lose the ability to grip. Might change them out for some more normal tires as long as they can handle the weight.
This guy got it
I assume they also have fairly hard tires for greater efficiency as well.
Exactly what I was trying to say with my comments.
next step would be to remove the roof glass to lower even more. That piece alone has to weight a whole heck of a lot. This is awesome btw
Remove the glass and weld a steel plate (0.8 or less mm) and top bar (side strength) in it so you're still sitting dry :)
carbon roof skin swap sounds like a huge upgrade
just chop the mf up to the bare chassis and weld up a cage. kinda like what cleetus with leroy
@@dookiebooger9967 this is what needs to be done. The roof glass weighs a lot less than you expect though. If they were to swap it with steel plate like someone said it will weigh more. Also swap the air suspension for the unplugged coil over setup. Wheels and tires can be lightened a decent amount as well. The battery and motors together make up about 1500-1600 pounds of the car. Make sure you keep the aero that is feeding the radiators or you will start having battery heat issues.
I didn't know you watched BoostedBoiz 👀
Building a plaid Leroy? Gosh I sure hope so.
A PeeRoy
A ERoy
Eroy is a damn good name
Leroy eroy and zeroy the 3 florida Roys jdm domestic and electric
@@GarthRnailed it
I still see windshield wipers + wiper motor + reservoir, that should be around 40lbs or so. Was 32 on my ‘14 5.slo
This car would perform a lot better as a track car now that it is lighter and be able to take tighter or faster turns. It'll probably dominate in spectator drags around the freedom factory.
One of the best aspects of teslas is how aerodynamic they are. Probably ruined the top speed.
I think as a spectator drag car, the speeds aren’t to the point that aerodynamic are really a factor. The lighter body with faster acceleration and later breaking is what really matters.
@@GrantDolanMusic Also higher cornering speed.
This will smash in spectator drags…no worry if you bump and all the remaining weight is at the axel line…they handle so much better than what you think…minus the brakes they truly are crap.
@@ChillinwithChetwhat do you know about those brakes 😂
27:15 I think the car is learning how to adapt to the new situation. That`s why it learned to deliver the power better with each run.
Definitely right it needs to learn what torque bias to deliver, obviously there will be a limit but it is still a “heavy” car
I think it was just a less dusty spot on the road and warmer tires
I dont think they have any adaptive tech in them to learn anything as far as driving characteristics or driver input.. they have the thing with their auto pilot that sends off the information it did when used.. like iphone does with its analytics “to improve security and functionality”. But as far as the car adjusting anything based on performance i highly doubt it.. traction ctrl works based off of individual tire rotation sensed with typical hall effect sensors on each drive axle off the motors so is more of a direct drive immediate adjustment to stop the car from veering off to one side if shit happened.. the abs just senses the vehicle g force, speed, and possibly obstacle avoidance to apply the brakes differently to slow the weight down without losing as much grip….
AI bro
The tires heated up after the first couple launches is more likely.
We better see the Tesla in the Spectator Drags at the Freedom Factory!
yup there's no way shaving 600 pounds doesn't make it turn quicker
Insurance doesn't cover spectator dragz
@@Justinhomiiyeah they sure seem to care about insurance 😂
@@Justinhomii Then don’t crash..
@@mattr6344 Right? And what a car to make that comment about. It's basically scrap value at this point - to NORMAL people. So... What are they going to do to the value of it?????
Once you start to put it back replace the garbage plastic with metal skid plates. Very common mod. Did it to my Model 3 Perf.
I used to replace glass on cars, the top glass on Teslas weigh so much it would be so beneficial to get rid of it. This is a really cool project so I’m hyped to see where it goes
The Rowdessy is gonna love the new power plant and chassis!
Ain’t the first time that trainer was gasping “Kyle” 🤣🤣🤝🏻🤝🏻 my dawg
Couple things. We often think of it as traction control because in an ICE vehicle timing is pulled out and the brakes are applied momentarily to try and regain traction, but in an electric car its actually torque control. Electric motors can provide an immense amount of both low end torque and precise control of torque. The computers in electric cars are constantly calculating what it thinks the limits of traction would be and are supplying the motors with just enough power to produce that torque. That's why, as other's have said, the computer has to "relearn" the weight of the vehicle and how it behaves when you floor it. In fact, "drift mode" in an electric car is pretty much disabling the torque control so that whenever you floor it the tires just instantly break loose and start spinning.
Next, tires have a weight rating not for holding the vehicle off the ground, but for when you are slinging the weight around by accelerating or braking hard. What that means is if you put a soft compound tire on a heavy car, you end up just tearing off the surface of the rubber like how chalk, a pencil, or an eraser leaves material behind. If you use a hard compound on a light car, you just slide across the surface. So tire manufactures have to carefully balance the compound, with how long the tire is supposed to last AND the weight of the vehicle it is going to go on. This is also why motorcycle tires can have a very soft compound. *You need softer compound tires that have a lower weight rating now that the car is lighter.*
Finally, this car would perform a lot better as a track car now and be able to take tighter or faster turns. It'll probably dominate in spectator drags around the freedom factory.
B is for Build could prob give you a lot of useful info with the disassembly/cutting
Full carbon Tesla plaid would go crazy 👀
Cleetus has Leroy and Kyle has E roy. lol
Woke up. Rolled some js got some coffee. Bam Kyle has an upload. Gonna be a good weekend
You gotta call it "E ROY" the electric Leroy
I can't wait for a black NSX Plaid!
Clearly NOT within the plans of Kyle and Wyatt. => Perhaps You want to emark or pay someone to implement that ??
0-60 in 2.37 seconds is nuts regardless
Perhaps for You among the common masses that speed, acceleration seems it would be exciting, amazing, etc. ??!!
Have You ever experienced even riding in such a vehicle with such acceleration, speed as this ? => Seemingly NOT
Also, many of the vehicles which the BoostedBoiz, PFI, Cleetus, James, Cooper, Nate, Hayden, Tom, Emelia, Alex, et al own, have, perform much better than this too, as many on the drag strip !!
Thanks dude
When they had the time lapse and were tossing the parts to the side, all I could think was "IN THE BIN!!"
IYKYK😂
Drag slicks/radials on all four. Lexan doors for aero if needed.
I was thinking the same thing.Aluminum frames and Lexan would surely help keep the weight off and cut air drag.
I'd say B is for build made the lightest one since he took EVERYTHING off it.
Was it a Plaid? Technicalities
Lightest model 3, not plaid
I geeked at the silent donuts
Tesla would do well if they made a ariel atom racer or even teamed up with Ariel thing would be crazy 😱
An Ariel "Electron" maybe? Instead of an atom hehehe
Ariel has this covered without the musk thing.. You've heard about the Ariel Hipercar?
You mean the rumored ROADSTER.. that comes out in 2022.. I mean 2023... I mean 2024... I mean 2025
@@clintmiller88 sounds like something else they called "cybertruck" just a little, as well lol
@@jonaspoulsen9232 I don't disagree, they could totally leave musk out of it and be totally fine.
The computer may still be learning how to optimize it at this weight, could explain the time improving after a few runs.
its just the tires getting warmed up lol
@@fredd3.14 look at the pinned post. It went even faster on cold tires the next day so it’s more than warm tires.
@@fredd3.14 @senilecanuck9402 clearly You both lack the proper ides, concepts, principles, information, knowledge and simply 'Guessing' with some little ideas You have !!
Perhaps see the man which modified his Model S Plaid for racing, reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing Good Luck
Always remember to roll down the windows all the way before you take the door off. It's easier not having broken glass. Sort of like a protector in some way. I don't know just my two cents🎉
that corner balance though
One important note about the 12v cut loop you were talking about is that while opening that circuit opens the contactors in the battery it also disables the thermal management systems so it can actually cause a thermal runaway condition that the TMS was handling to get out of hand.
That said, it is still a good idea to unplug that when you are working on this car :)
I always just flip the breakers fuses on the side of the BMS in the trunk and disconnect the under frunk 14v accessory battery completely 🤷
Science
As Jackstand Jimmy would say.... hypotenuse
@@baltazard133T I've been doing it that way since the 70s.
@@eriklarson9137 Did You work on electric vehicles back in the 1970's as the ones used in university physical plant departments and for golf carts ??!!
I think you only made it so that there isn't as much load, which the motor controller saw and adjusted for it. I believe if you have made the car heavier, to a point the times would still be consistent. I think you are only effecting range with taking weight off until you play with the motor controller, you have to tell it to go faster and accelerate on a different curve persay due to the change in available traction. So adjustments for acceleration and traction are needed electronically to make it faster and quicker and to reap the benefits of being lighter besides a longer range. Beware, I might be wrong
The guts of this plaid will end up in the tube chassis, mark my words
nah the 2jz is going in the civic tube chassis, the plaid needs to look like leroy just cut the whole body and cage it.
Keep up the great work fellas 😎🤙🇺🇲
I believe B is for build did this but still cool to see somebody else try as well see the comparison
Kyle said in the video that B is for build did this to a model 3, didn't you watch the video?🤦♂At 6:02 if you didn't care to watch the full video...
@@liiiinder I commented before I finish the video but thank you for pointing that out I noticed afterwards
Ha! I called it. A plaid deathkart! This is going to be good.
Or not..... 😮
Tesla nsx
Put drag radials on all corners and go with the smallest inch tire (smallest O.D.)
There's a few off-road build's out there but someone's got to do a Long travel suspension and go full Baha mode.
This has to be called E-roy 😂😂😂
Or PeeRoy
knew it was gonna become as telsa kart from the start.....awesme build!!
Tires/slicks would be interesting what you planning? Uncle Chet ran sick week not gonna get that fast!? Keep it coming!!
Kyle and Wyatt y'all rock! Peace
And all honesty you probably did the smartest thing to get a cheap plaid at the time you got it.. and I've seen you at the gas station and to be honest I would just keep it as a daily for around the area it looks way too nice to hack up... But that wouldn't be much fun now would it... And you're not the typical person with typical cars , your car's make your living and the crazier the better on the internet
For 60k I’m reselling that mf 😂
We need to know what he was driving when you saw him 👀
It would be so hard to rip that thing apart and to not leave it as a nice/fast daily run about.
Ur gonna brick it doing burnies!
Seriously, get in contact with Chet (chillin with chet)
Definitely keep the undertray on, it both reduces lift and decreases drag by a lot for very little weight
That clear roof is sick!
Tires were getting hotter so traction increased.
Let’s go Kyle. Awesome project bud. Keep up the good work you rock bud🤘
The Traction control can learn and will adapt to hit slip goals, you can't expect it to be spot on on the first launch after pulling weight out
USE A PAINT MARKER AND MARK ANY MOUNTING OR ADJUSTMENT BOLTS/TABS ON THE CAMERA ARRAYS. They are usually marked by the manufacturer who calibrated them. Still do your own to be safe.
They must be calibrated to function correctly. At Tesla they set the vehicle and use reference points that must be in spec. There are usually turn dial adjustments for each axis. make sure they are marked.
B is for build is wanting to reuse them on a new body. The height from the ground. Pitch and yaw angle from its mounting point aswell as distance from the same points of reference from other on board cameras. ..the cameras take data collected from different cameras to make decisions. Those cameras are programmed to compare different data points. If even the smallest detail is off all of the data is wrong resulting in possible running you into something or worse.
Gimme your PO Box, I will personally buy Wyatt a damn microphone. I can never hear him in any video.
Conflicted on this one. Love to see the tinkering but hate to see such a nice daily ripped up
My thoughts exactly
it was fucked when they got it and it's only a tesla so not like they're cutting up an important car or anything
I was hoping for this!
i think the drag from removing these panels will be more damage than the weight savings gain you
Need to have it plugged in so you can do your tests closer to 100% battery life.
typical nonsense, lacking with proper information, knowledge, clear, certain ignorance about battery, power output and effect upon electric motors !!
Does Your computer, electronic device perform loess, slower with less battery charge ??!! => NO
@@newtonfirefly3584 I'm hoping you're just being sarcastic but not sure..
It's just as fast from 80-100% SOC. You lose .1s in the 1/4 when SOC falls in the 70's. You lose another .1s when SOC falls in the 60's. By 20% SOC, the Plaid can still rip a 9.9 in the 1/4 (vs 9.2 at 80-100%SOC)
@@nsxmattnope ! Drain the battery to less than 20% for less weight too. Keep the ICE heads happy.
Even completly gutted , this anorexia-like honey is still a " big girl"
I absolutely love seeing entrepreneurs doing what they love and becoming successful!! Kyle you inspire me to take my business to the next level!! Innovation is the key to success, always looking ahead!
Get some slicks on it and see if that helps it launch harder 😮
B is for build pretty much Did this same thing about a month ago
Getting mad Leroy vibes from this... and I'm here for it!
When you're all done with it it should have a Plad wrap. Looking like a rolling larry the cable guy shirt.
OH MY GOD WHEN YOU SAT THE DOOR DOWN SITTING ON THE CORNER OF THE WINDOW I WAS WAITING FOR IT TO EXPLODE!
So there's now Leroy, Elroy, and E-Roy huh?🤔 😂😂😂
*You need softer compound tires that have a lower weight rating now that the car is lighter.* Tires have a weight rating not for holding the vehicle off the ground, but for when you are slinging the weight around by accelerating or braking hard. What that means is if you put a soft compound tire on a heavy car, you end up just tearing off the surface of the rubber like how chalk, a pencil, or an eraser leaves material behind. If you use a hard compound on a light car, you just slide across the surface. So tire manufactures have to carefully balance the compound with how long the tire is supposed to last AND the weight of the vehicle it is going to go on. This is also why motorcycle tires can have a very soft compound.
Having a tire with a load index that’s slightly too high doesn’t matter very much.
@@Jake-bt3fc @1234567890CAB; perhaps attempt Your ideas to explain the results with the man in Canada who modified his Model S Plaid fro racing and results achieved ??
reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing
Quite obviously You will not be able to properly figure, assess, evaluate, differentiate, discern, analize, determine since You clearly lack the proper knowledge, principles within physics, forces, materials, mechanics, mechanical, structures, electrical, electronics, engineering, etc.
Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 “perhaps attempt your ideas to explain the results”
Perhaps you should attempt to proofread your nonsense before you send it to my inbox and waste my time.
@@Jake-bt3fc I second this statement. I'm not sure what he's trying to get at, but neither of us have gotten into any of the physics yet. Furthermore, in the example he just provided he specifies "M/T 275 Street radials on the rear," thus proving my statement of stickier tires contributing to an improvement. I agree that the weight rating/ load index is not the singular contributing factor, but my understanding is that it, together with the width, limits how soft the compound could be. When you have a wider tire, you can use a softer compound and not change the weight rating because the weight is spread out over a wider area. Each square inch does not have to grip or resist sliding/tearing as hard or as much. An eraser is easier to tear up and rub material off when held on its end or on a corner than when it is held flat. According to the physics the force of friction is only the normal force, or how hard the two surfaces are pressed together, multiplied by the coefficient of friction. Surface area is not considered in these simple equations. My point is in real life we must consider surface area because of material failure.
@@Jake-bt3fc clearly this platform 'bot' programmer, has not any proper comprehension, ideas, concepts, principles. Good Luck -> Bye Bye
You need a 1/4 mile extention cable, and remove the batteries and leave them at the start line, as they are a big part of that weight... 😁🤘
You’d be running a 400v system on 120v
Top Glass, and rims. Find you some light weight wheels and that will help more.
Fenders hood and front bumper to help the aero on the car.
I think this, "mod" would have gone "hand in hand" with a new set of ultra light weight rims(something aling the lines of te37 or some Weld wheels or Belak for the ultra drag look) and some mickey Thompsons et street tires. I hope you have something planned along those lines. Keep up the good work brother, love the content.
I really thought you guys were the first to blow up a Tesla with no fire to see😂
First people to miss third gear in a Tesla
"3rd is gone guys, we gonna need to put another junkyard transmition in it" xD
wish i could do something like this
There’s a way to unlock the full power and disable all sorts of traction control. Might be useful once wheels and tires are upgraded
27:18 i think the car has to learn how to do it all over again these are intelligent cars that can learn how to handle its own torque
All you need now is a carbon fibre rear hatch and doors for the Tesla
As someone who worked on the Tesla assembly line and fuckin hated the job, it’s nice to see someone take this shit apart lol
Gotta have the battery nice and hot. It likes hot battery warmer tires. Cant wait to see it on the track.
Curious how much tires would help… then a carbon fiber front clip for aero 😊
Cant wait for this build to be done just Leave the brakes alone lol... Advice from uncle Chet...
Not submerging it underwater might be good too.
Uncle chet's advice would be to remove the brakes for weight savings. Did you not see his wreck?
Uncle Chet’s issues was he didn’t use proper brake fluid with his brake upgrade and boiled the fluid
just thought of sumting , you find another realy light and streamlined dragrace rolling chassis like that rwd civic or maibe even a drag rail and build the whole drive setup of the plaid in it , would take quite a bit of reprogramming the electronics of tesla but it would make for a verry fast car , the drivetrain can be run right to the ragged edge of spinning the reartires all the time as it allready does so automaticly , wonder if they ever made a 4 wheel drive setup with a tesla drivetrain
as for putting away the tesla parts : get some large pallet bins or stackable palletsides fill those up with the parts borrow someones forklift truck and set them on top of the officespace in the garage , might be able to sell it off in the future if youre not using it anymore
Thank you for doing this!!! but what if Put back the front bumper, hood, gutted doors and hatch just for aero purposes. Would it help?
I wonder if a smaller diameter tires would make any big difference. It would be changing the "gear ratios" relative to the street.
“You down to go with me to 0-60 it?” *Wyatt before Kyle could even finish his sentence* “NO!!” lol Wyatt was not tryna be anywhere near the inside of that car while testing haha
Gaff tape that front edge under the cabin for the under tray.
Stiked that you mentionwd grind hard plumbing, i hope you do a collab with those boys sometime in the future.
If you actually want to meaningfully reduce the weight you'll need to deal with the batteries. Everything else on the car is already as light as possible by design - you're only going to gain so much by cutting. That battery is good for several hundred miles of range which is overkill for what you're doing. Best bet would be get rid of it and go with one from a smaller electric car (Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt, etc).
AEM makes what's effectively a standalone ECU for the Tesla (VCU200). It won't care if you ditch all the electronics and it's probably your only option if you want to start messing with stuff any deeper. At a certain point you should just buy the Tesla motors from a wrecker and throw them in a lighter chassis. See Rywire's Tesla swapped Honda stuff for inspiration.
Your post is clearly, obviously certain among the many ignorant masses with more invalid, incorrect, baseless nonsense.
Perhaps see the man which modified his Model S Plaid for racing, reduced ~ 700 lbs, Signature SV104 wheels, 18" M/T 275 Street Radials on the rear, 19" Michelin PS4 on the front, -> replaced passenger side front and rear door glass and driver side rear door glass by plastic, everything else still OEM heavy two layer glasses -> owner weighs 240 lbs. -> race weight w/owner/driver = 4240 lbs. => 8.73-8.77 sec 1/4 mile -0 > 150, 8 sec. passes -> Tesla Plaid Racing Good Luck
@@newtonfirefly3584 I'm an automotive engineer who designs these btw.
I don't really see the point you're trying to make. Their last vid they managed to get it down to 4000lbs with just about everything missing. As I said, there's not a whole lot more room for loss unless they drop the battery. If they drop to a couple Volt/Leaf packs or similar they can easily shed 700-1000lbs. Good luck dropping that with wheels and tires.
Is 1000hp in a 4240lb car fun? Sure. Is 1000hp in a 3240lb car more fun? Probably.
@@jsheradin According to Your comments, including this reply, You do not seem to have the expertise of, with, within a design engineer, any type motor vehicle, especially electric vehicles.
My basis is my design experience, expertise within engineering for over 45 years along with mechanics, etc. Good Luck -> Bye Bye
@@newtonfirefly3584 Again, I don't see a point you're trying to make. You come in argumentative and dismissive but everything I said is true. This is a heavy car, 4000lbs with a Leroy style cage. Most of the weight is in the stock battery. They don't benefit from the range that it can offer so *for their application* they're better off going with a smaller pack. Should they still do light wheels and tires? Of course but it will only gain so much.
Leaf/Volt/Prius packs are plentiful and can be configured to deliver the peak current they require. They'll need an unlocked VCU to make it happen. The AEM VCU200 is a suitable option. It's able to control the PEUs, TMM, BMS, etc with way more flexibility than they'll get hacking up the original computer. There's already others out there such as Rywire who are Lego piecing these things together.
If anything I said is actually incorrect or baseless please let me know; I'm always happy to learn.
@@jsheradin As stated, You proposed idea has valid concepts for power/weight, especially since for drag racing the amount of electrical charge storage is minimal; perhaps comparable to having a small fuel cell.
However, as stated, with Tesla, Rimac, all production electric, hybrid vehicles and many modern production vehicles from 2010 onward, the computer control, S.w, F/W are completely locked, unchangeable, intentionally, purposely with the manufacture retain all controls, updates, modification, limitations, in addition to the complet, all-time, location tracking, data gathering, storage, etc.
Thus, no modifications to, with, any of these vehicles can be accomplished which interface with the computer.
thus, also these vehicles, including Tesla, Rimac, Nissan, GM/Chevrolet, Porsche, etc. are not good platforms to use beyond the production version, especially for any possible modifications, improvements, except removal of items which are not connected with the computer control system. Then add the detriment with retained manufacture control with each vehicle by remote, wireless connections which can also have automatic loss of use with disconnection too.
Are You beginning to comprehend the situation, reality better and thus my posted comments, replies ?
hopefully this reply will assist You further with Your thoughts, ideas, concepts, views, perspectives, perceptions, mindset, though there are many more details within these designs that perhaps only engineers, developers have the proper knowledge, which are simple and basic within those with these basis.
All The Best, Sincerely
I seriously believe if you don't change the software that thing can't go faster no matter how much weight you take off
Have you not seen the model 3 that’s basically a skate board brought it’s 0-60 down from 3.1 to 2. Something the power to weight ratio changes and allows it to accelerate faster it won’t produce anymore power which is what you’re saying with the software but less weight will make it faster.
@@Jose1againquicker not faster 😊
@@zethloveless7238 grammar semantics at that point he was concerned with 0-60 times not getting any faster/quicker whatever you’d like to say reducing weight will help because the electric motors have less mass while still pushing out the same hp and tq to accelerate it’s basic physics at this point he’s traction limited and needs a stickier and wider tire with a lighter wheel setup.
@@Jose1againno ...have you a link pls
@@GWAForUTBE no what? And link for what?
Blue plug is probably a camera wire, looks like all the others I've seen and the other plug probably goes to the center console and likely a vehicle dynamics sensor and/or ORC (seatbelts) module.
Probs got a little heat in the tires with those first 3 launches. Helped it hook up on the last one.
I’m sure your last pass was 2.35 because the tires were warmed up but I’m now curious what would happen with a better tire. I’m sure you can’t go crazy grippy because that might break things but I think with the right tire it could get a faster 60ft.
Probably more to do with the car still learning how to optimise its launch now it weights alot less.
Different tyre would deffo help as the current compound is also optimised at the cars factory weight
Now put a on light bar and some monster stickers 😂
Would disabling TC like Chet and run drag radials or slicks for cushion and just let it eat fully unleashed work? Maybe taking the stock suspension out? I think it would be nasty on prep with slicks with everything off lol
This is some Chillin with Chet, vibes… 😂
Aaaaah yes she's back boys!!!
I wonder how heavy that glass roof is
13.6 lbs
@@jens468 lmao 136lbs maybe. Just a mr2 t top weighs 11lbs off the car
Is it structural?
@@lastactionhero7245 yes.
Witt real quick to say no about riding along 😂😂
Interesting👍 Will follow this for sure
For the moment I would say you need to work on traction getting lighter make it struggle for traction especially front end
I think the aero is going to really effect the speed. Just look at Leroy when they tested the aerodynamic and coefficient of drag.
Do You have any actual basis, knowledge within physics, aerodynamics, air flow ??!! Obviously NOT !! Just some ideas, about some that You have heard, seen comments, etc. which are based in some simplified versions at most, and the rare few with actual proper knowledge ! =>Thus, You begin with "I think .." but actually just propose the importance with aerodynamics =>thus, an expert should be consulted, involved. Good Luck
The only car on the channel that wont be honda swapped 😝
Think one of the cars is getting a 2jz that will be sick 🤜👍
@@tonyross7376 Which one?
@@TheCluelessEnthusiast think it is the tube chassis ej coupe look back on a few video's 🤜👍
@@tonyross7376 oh cool. That will be sick!
if the accelerator pedal feeds a ramping voltage signal to the ecu then maybe replace the pedal pot with a button that supplies a discrete input to the controller. no lag on the pedal.
For months now I have been quietly praying that you build a Tesla Pleroy cart 🤞🤞🤞
Now it just needs some grippy tires and it’ll be mint. First ever Tesla on beadlocks??