If anyone is wondering where to still get these, or something like these, a company called Black Widow Training Gear can make something similar to them. Also there is a company called Lancaster Premium Power Coating that has taken over making these ones from the original manufacturer. A quick Google search should bring either up. Happy lifting!
Sad to see XII:XI close doors because the products he was working on were solid. These have been great for me for the past few months. I was debating selling the rack for a combo rack as I am 6'6" 400ish lbs and my grip width lands RIGHT where the uprights are. Since I got these it has been much easier going to get into position.
Thank you Mr Brandon. Before 10 years you have change my perspective about supplements, diets and exercises. Much love and respect to you, I wish the best to you and love ones ❤ Note: I love you more when you used to cut sleeves off your t-shirt 😂
I saw these and they looked interesting. I wish somebody made a set of rack mounted suspension straps. My hands run into the jcups AND the safeties with that narrowness of the rep rack (contemplating running strap safeties by the wife). Great video man!
Another well-done review. I wanted something like this due to bad shoulders that prevent me from being comfortable on back squats with a straight bar. But I'm cheap & I have a Rogue rack, so I bought 2 of the short 3 X 3 strips & mounted them to the rack with extra band pegs. Put extra J-cups on those, and there you go, an offset mount for the bar. Between that and the extra-long Texas squat bar, I can do back squats all I want, whereas before I had to do them with a safety squat bar. I already had the band pegs and the J-cups, so all it cost me was the price of the strips. It's easy to mount & dismount so if I ever need the pegs or J-cups for something else, they pop right out.
Everytime i try to use the link it says 403 error on the website. Is there any other way to reach the new manufacturers? Great video btw, this gives me hope that i can keep squatting because my gyms rack is too narrow
Always quality videos. Ty Brandon. Quick question. I may be mixing you up, but didn’t you once say you don’t really use the jammer arms? If so or if not, are those an upgraded version of the original Rogue? Mine are about a year and a half old and don’t have those holes in the black portion which appear to enable you to set the arms in many different positions. Ty.
You're right, I don't. Vendetta Strength has asked me to test these out for the Rogue V1 arms, so I've been helping them with measurements and fit. Even though they increase the usability, I still don't find a strong desire to use the arms in general.
@@BasementBrandon ah ok ty. So they are not made by Rogue. Didn’t think so. Have been considering buying their new-ish articulating handles for them which would make them better but for over $500, not worth it.
Unless you’re a powerlifter or compete in something that specifically requires it, long term, in my opinion, the bang isn’t worth the buck of using a straight bar for squats for anybody, but even more so for someone that feels they need to do wide grip. I’d advise anyone not in the above category to put the money towards a good SSB or Duffalo type bar, which negates the need for a wide grip. Did you experience any jamming of fingers between the rack whilst re-racking? Looks quite tight.
Hey Dan, no issues as they're off set and extended out. As far as the bars go, TBH I think most people would be better off using the straight bar they own unless some sort of severe issue prevents them from doing so.
@@BasementBrandon thanks! They look really well made. I just don’t know why anyone would use a straight bar to squat save for specificity or not having the money for an SSB. It’s been responsible for more wrist, elbow and shoulder aggravation to me over the years than benching and OHP combined…
I love mine. I kept looking for so nothing like this and this is by far the cheapest option. One other thing these are good for is specialty bars like the ssb. Some of them the camber is at the jcups, this attachment solves that.
I just ordered some roller jcups last week and they haven't even arrived yet. I was probably the last person to pay full price for a set....anyway I'm glad I bought an extra roller, now knowing that they won't be around. sucks.
I think they’re good and potentially may add more weight, but I don’t think it’s a significant amount enough to warrant many people buying them if they already have sleeves they’re happy with. I’m only using them as peaking/testing sleeves and otherwise will use the stoics as my day to day ones.
Sorry a little tangental -- but when you get used equipment and sell yours, what sites do you use? There are a lot and idk which are sketch vs worth using... Thank you!!!!
Sad to see a Pennsylvania company go. Hopefully, he'll be back in the strength game in another capacity. I also hope other companies pick up on some of the benefits and reasons you went with XII:XI in the first place. Great review!
@Basement Brandon did you have a bar holder that was at the top of your rack that could hold 2 bars horizontally? I'm looking all over for it and thought I saw it in one of your videos
I think a wider application of the offset attachment is for narrow racks to use wide cambered multi-grip bars. Don't see much difference doing wide grip squats.
@@BasementBrandon that is definitely a negative of the lever arms for sure, as well as, needing to fasten them down. However, if one needs to grab rather wide, you will avoid the uprights, and it’s a nice affordable way to get it done. Additionally, it helps feel like I’m actually getting my moneys worth out of rarely used lever arms!
If ya did pick these up, I'd recommend potentially getting some new safeties to go along with them - Spud's "Suspension Straps" are gonna be your best bet. (Your usual safeties are gonna be in a "break your forearm" location if you ever end up having to use them with your hands out wide.)
@@joewade6622 Hah neither did I! Until I had these, went extra-deep on a warmup and felt my arms bump the top of my spotters. Was fairly unnerving, hah
Can these offset the uprights depth wise instead of width wise? I’m wondering if they can solve my incline bench problem. Currently my power rack is against a wall so I can’t scoot the bench back enough to be able to incline bench inside the power rack
They're already sold out 😭. Any other places that make these? I'm interested in trying a really wide grip. They still have some roller cups left (for 5/8 racks only now). If any one is thinking about it, act fast. I should have ordered last night
I dont know a ton of people with these (a lot more have the roller cups), but haven’t heard or seen any instances of that happening yet. Anything specific you can point me to?
Love that you always tell us to "stay big." Such an ego massage because it implies we already are big, plus positive motivation. Great slogan.
I'm gonna keep saying it til I get there lol.
If anyone is wondering where to still get these, or something like these, a company called Black Widow Training Gear can make something similar to them. Also there is a company called Lancaster Premium Power Coating that has taken over making these ones from the original manufacturer. A quick Google search should bring either up.
Happy lifting!
Yeah Dean from BWTG makes some great stuff, they were just more expensive and not as nicely finished from what I saw.
Sad to see XII:XI close doors because the products he was working on were solid. These have been great for me for the past few months. I was debating selling the rack for a combo rack as I am 6'6" 400ish lbs and my grip width lands RIGHT where the uprights are. Since I got these it has been much easier going to get into position.
Great to hear!
Thanks for finally de-mystifying what the hell the offset use case was :) Was a serious head scratcher for me!
Glad I could help! 🤪
I saw he was going out of business so I went ahead and got these rack offsets. I also have the wedges. Great products!
Good get!
I'm suffering from Rack envy. You have a great set up in your basement, really nice gear! Great video as usual, thanks! Love the tee shirt.
My rack brings all the boys to the yard.
I think I’m in love. Did not realize there was an option. My bicep pain from squats sucks. I love racking off!
Spicy 🥵
Man these things are right up my alley, thanks for highlighting them
No problem!
Glad I found this and that someone picked up the design. I needed something like this ‼️
Them big boy grips
Every single gym needs these. It’s annoying I can’t squat in most gyms
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Thank you Mr Brandon. Before 10 years you have change my perspective about supplements, diets and exercises. Much love and respect to you, I wish the best to you and love ones ❤
Note: I love you more when you used to cut sleeves off your t-shirt 😂
LOL
I saw these and they looked interesting. I wish somebody made a set of rack mounted suspension straps. My hands run into the jcups AND the safeties with that narrowness of the rep rack (contemplating running strap safeties by the wife). Great video man!
I had that issue with benching in my rep rack :(
Another well-done review. I wanted something like this due to bad shoulders that prevent me from being comfortable on back squats with a straight bar. But I'm cheap & I have a Rogue rack, so I bought 2 of the short 3 X 3 strips & mounted them to the rack with extra band pegs. Put extra J-cups on those, and there you go, an offset mount for the bar. Between that and the extra-long Texas squat bar, I can do back squats all I want, whereas before I had to do them with a safety squat bar. I already had the band pegs and the J-cups, so all it cost me was the price of the strips. It's easy to mount & dismount so if I ever need the pegs or J-cups for something else, they pop right out.
Smart thinking, just hope it holds well!
@@BasementBrandon Thanks, no problems so far! I always use the safety bars anyway.
Everytime i try to use the link it says 403 error on the website. Is there any other way to reach the new manufacturers? Great video btw, this gives me hope that i can keep squatting because my gyms rack is too narrow
Unfortunately the company went out of business.
Always quality videos. Ty Brandon. Quick question. I may be mixing you up, but didn’t you once say you don’t really use the jammer arms? If so or if not, are those an upgraded version of the original Rogue? Mine are about a year and a half old and don’t have those holes in the black portion which appear to enable you to set the arms in many different positions. Ty.
You're right, I don't. Vendetta Strength has asked me to test these out for the Rogue V1 arms, so I've been helping them with measurements and fit. Even though they increase the usability, I still don't find a strong desire to use the arms in general.
@@BasementBrandon ah ok ty. So they are not made by Rogue. Didn’t think so. Have been considering buying their new-ish articulating handles for them which would make them better but for over $500, not worth it.
Sold out. Sad that they are going out of business. Real sad. I hope someone here in US can pick up where they left off.
I think Black Widow Training Gear makes them as well.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks...will look into them!
Unless you’re a powerlifter or compete in something that specifically requires it, long term, in my opinion, the bang isn’t worth the buck of using a straight bar for squats for anybody, but even more so for someone that feels they need to do wide grip. I’d advise anyone not in the above category to put the money towards a good SSB or Duffalo type bar, which negates the need for a wide grip.
Did you experience any jamming of fingers between the rack whilst re-racking? Looks quite tight.
Hey Dan, no issues as they're off set and extended out. As far as the bars go, TBH I think most people would be better off using the straight bar they own unless some sort of severe issue prevents them from doing so.
@@BasementBrandon thanks! They look really well made.
I just don’t know why anyone would use a straight bar to squat save for specificity or not having the money for an SSB. It’s been responsible for more wrist, elbow and shoulder aggravation to me over the years than benching and OHP combined…
Was just looking at these last night.
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Would love something like this for my stubby axle 5 foot bar, or shorter bars in general. Cool attachment!
ah good call
Thanks for the heads up, wrist saver!
Yessir
I love mine. I kept looking for so nothing like this and this is by far the cheapest option. One other thing these are good for is specialty bars like the ssb. Some of them the camber is at the jcups, this attachment solves that.
Good call out.
I ordered these yesterday after their announcement. I already had their Roller J-Cups and this was something I wanted. Sad to see them go.
I just ordered some roller jcups last week and they haven't even arrived yet. I was probably the last person to pay full price for a set....anyway I'm glad I bought an extra roller, now knowing that they won't be around. sucks.
Good get!
great vid, thanks. BTW what are your final thoughts on the Inzer sleeves? should I get some? currently I love the Stoic sleeves.
I think they’re good and potentially may add more weight, but I don’t think it’s a significant amount enough to warrant many people buying them if they already have sleeves they’re happy with. I’m only using them as peaking/testing sleeves and otherwise will use the stoics as my day to day ones.
Can you rack a short curl bar using these?
Depends where the collars are.
Good accessory for those that need or want it...
pretty small pool of people IMO!
Sorry a little tangental -- but when you get used equipment and sell yours, what sites do you use? There are a lot and idk which are sketch vs worth using... Thank you!!!!
I usually use FB Marketplace for gym equipment.
My shoulder mobility is not good. This would have helped me to continue back squatting, but im happy with my Transformer bar!
Good call!
Man I need to buy a set immediately due to elbow pain. Is there anyone else that makes these? I can't find them anywhere online
If you check their site they link to a company who is making them again.
Sad to see a Pennsylvania company go. Hopefully, he'll be back in the strength game in another capacity. I also hope other companies pick up on some of the benefits and reasons you went with XII:XI in the first place. Great review!
Let's hope so!
@Basement Brandon did you have a bar holder that was at the top of your rack that could hold 2 bars horizontally? I'm looking all over for it and thought I saw it in one of your videos
I just pre ordered one called the anchor.
@@BasementBrandon thank you!
Hi Brandon, where did you get that attachment that allows for multiple angles on your rogue trolley arms? I would like to purchase that one as well.
I could be wrong, but I think they're these: vendettastrengthandathletics.com
Yes, vendetta strength.
I think a wider application of the offset attachment is for narrow racks to use wide cambered multi-grip bars.
Don't see much difference doing wide grip squats.
I don’t think that’s a problem tbh. I have both 47” and 49” wide racks and haven’t had an issue with any multigrip bar yet.
@@BasementBrandon But some people do. For example, one rep max.
We’ll I guess I didn’t make before they sold out. Let me know where I can get a pair if you know.
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Love the shirt👍. Did they say why they are going out of business? Seems to be a quality product.
I think it's just more workload than the owner wanted to deal with.
@@BasementBrandon seems to be a common trend these days unfortunately
Can do pretty much the same thing with detachable lever arms positioned on the inside face of the posts.
These not only do offset from the post, but also pushes out 2" or so. Otherwise you'll hit your hands on the uprights.
@@BasementBrandon that is definitely a negative of the lever arms for sure, as well as, needing to fasten them down. However, if one needs to grab rather wide, you will avoid the uprights, and it’s a nice affordable way to get it done. Additionally, it helps feel like I’m actually getting my moneys worth out of rarely used lever arms!
If ya did pick these up, I'd recommend potentially getting some new safeties to go along with them - Spud's "Suspension Straps" are gonna be your best bet.
(Your usual safeties are gonna be in a "break your forearm" location if you ever end up having to use them with your hands out wide.)
Ouch, yeah hadn't thought of that
@@joewade6622 Hah neither did I! Until I had these, went extra-deep on a warmup and felt my arms bump the top of my spotters. Was fairly unnerving, hah
Good call
Can these offset the uprights depth wise instead of width wise?
I’m wondering if they can solve my incline bench problem. Currently my power rack is against a wall so I can’t scoot the bench back enough to be able to incline bench inside the power rack
Seems like that would work
They do stick out about an extra 1-2"
Madewell Strength Equipment out of Dayton, Ohio sells offset jcups
Nice!
They're already sold out 😭. Any other places that make these? I'm interested in trying a really wide grip. They still have some roller cups left (for 5/8 racks only now). If any one is thinking about it, act fast. I should have ordered last night
I believe Black Widow Training Gear will make them.
Has anyone found another manufacturer that is producing this product like this?
If you look on XII:XI's site they list a new manufacturer for this.
I guess these are alright for narrow built guys. I got shoulders like a bison, and I would never fit in between those offsets.
I have broad shoulders, you'll be fine.
@@BasementBrandon whatever helps you sleep at night.
Great Attachments.
Great video.
Great Fu@#ing T shirt! 👍
Thanks!
Such a shame Xii Xi is closing their doors. Good, underrated company. Glad I got their sandwich j-cups a few months ago.
agreed!
I noticed quite a few people who bought these attachments were seeing the welds break. Think I'll pass. I'd rather not have 405 pancake me xD
I'd feel like Kevin nash in 92 if that happened to me...
@@drinkinouttacups2665 lmao
I’m assuming you’ve been watching the Kliq This podcast as well lol
I dont know a ton of people with these (a lot more have the roller cups), but haven’t heard or seen any instances of that happening yet. Anything specific you can point me to?
you wanna get ride of these yet?
😅
They are going out of business and their stock is sold out. RIP.
another company picked these up for them I believe.
Or you could just fix your shitty shoulder mobility and learn how to bring your hands in closer.
For some people it's not an option.