The Real Cost to Build 875' Driveway into the Woods
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- Today we get real close to finishing the road into the woods and out to the meadow. We talk about actual costs to do this. #smallbusiness #sidehustle #homestead
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If you will back your skid passed the pile instead of turning around twice for every scoop, each cycle will be a total turn of about 30 degrees instead of 360 degrees...you will get an extra 200 to 300 hours on a set of tracks and your machine will last considerably longer before drive components need replaced.
I watched all of Tyler’s throws this past weekend. I was rooting for him and talking to the tv cheering him on. 10th in the nation is quite an accomplishment. I’m proud of his dedication.
Has anyone tried soil cement? It doesn’t work everywhere, but it might save money in the right places.
12k or so to build your road , 40k if you hired it out … but then factor in how much revenue 175 trees might bring in , in terms of firewood or lumber. I think your in better shape than you think .
I was thinking along those same lines, plus TH-cam content revenue
I was wondering about that as well!
12k is a great price.
I'm pretty sure to hire someone to bring there machine and do it they will charge for the machine by the hour and then the operator also
Last year I rec'd a quote of $42K to put in an 850 ft gravel road and clear the trees on one acre in south western NC.
Good morning, OWTM. From north-central Idaho.
When I saw this title, I was glad to see this project reach a final stage. Then I thought how this 😮 more than just a road.
During this build, you have taken us on a journey that includes daily home life, successful business expansion and operation.
And, as icing on the cake, moved forward significantly on the development of your West Virginia property.
I salute you and your family for perseverance and endurance, and for what my father would have called internal fortitude - gumption. At 70 years old, I commend you to ours and younger generations as a fine example of living as a free man.
Another great video. About two years ago we needed to replace the drain field for our septic system and here in north Florida we got 4 quotes ranging from 8000.00 to 12000.00 . Being a contractor for 26 years I decided to do it myself and with machine rental and materials I spent right at 3000.00 . There is not a better feeling than doing it yourself
How we justify purchases to our wives - 90k truck, 90k mini, 90k skid, 10k trailer - i can do this project for only 5600 and save 20k thats almost already a quarter of the skid on one project 😂😅 😊
Our viewer support pays for all those things, and we get the enjoyment of watching a VERY good operator run them. Having had a special needs member in our family, they amaze me with what they accomplish on top of You tube channel! KUDO's to the extended family, a Great example of "it takes a village".
@@bobreed1733 this is true. I just had to giggle a little wasn’t throwing stones always wishing the best for ppl 💪
Love the mix of action/music, commentary, and conversation. And the choice of music is great. Thanks for all the hard work
Good stuff Mike!
2024 comparison Southwest Mass on the CT border. I contracted out a 375 foot road with no gravel/stone just a gravel/sand base mixture, compacted (gravel and stone to come). Tree removal. Small mouse clearing and a turn around area. Trees removed, branches chipped $18000!
I feel your Driveway cost my Driveway is 1320 feet and we love it. We lined our Driveway with blooming pear tree’s and everyone that see’s our Driveway tell’s us it is Amazing and they want to know what tree’s are lining our Driveway. When I mow I have had people stop and ask what are the tree’s. Amazing how beautiful tree’s can bring people together. 🤘🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video sir.
Architect/builder here, & we're blessed to have a lot (but never enough) of land in WV that I'm redeveloping (has been "wilding" for about 40 years) and we're fighting this fight. Good thing is my retired pops has a small excavation company and according dump trucks so we don't have to manually move the stone like you're doing here unless we want to or need to touch up a certain area. I've realized that I definitely need a small dump trailer like you have for other misc chores around the tract. Those trailers are handy "like a pocket on a shirt!"
I know you know this, but for the price of delivered stone, you could have them "tailgate" it for you then touch it up with the other equipment you have like the land plane. Will save you a LOT of time. FWIW, for newly cut roads, we almost always put down some type of typar membrane then #1 (or other course aggregate/rip rap) then layer our smaller crushed stone on top of that. Depending on how much water the uphill ditch will have to handle, we may or may not shape large aggregate/rip rap in the ditch with the excavator & skid steer which helps with erosion. Then we liberally sow fescue seed on any fresh cut that remains which usually starts to sprout in as little as a few weeks and further keeps the erosion in check.
Land planes are a godsend for working with that small stone. Also, out in the country like this, put in more culverts than you think you'll need, when one gets blocked you have some redundancy and can avoid road washouts when the boomer storms come.
If you really want to get deeper into the rabbit hole, USGS has some tools that can help you calculate potential rainfall and affected runoff areas/totals for your ditch/culvert sizing (a good place to start ~ water.usgs.gov/edu/activity-howmuchrain.html) 🍻
Good Tuesday morning Morgan family! Hope you’re having a productive week. Happy early 4th! Think about how much you can earn back from firewood and lumber sales as well. I bet you can almost break even on that.
The progress on the Morgan Highway is fantastic and the number of episodes made on it is a YT success. Melissa's shopping math was how my mother in law thoughts were. You are doing a wonderful job contenting this property improvement. 👍👍👍
All that hard work on the road will pay off when you build the barndominium !
That road is looking really good! I think it makes your property look better. You do great work Mike Morgan! Love the channel!
Interesting breakdown and way of looking at it. Long story short, I crave the satisfaction of a job well done. The savings of doing it yourself is huge, as well as the quality of the work. I do it for the enjoyment of it and looking back years down the road saying "I built that". In today's world of mundane and unsatisfied work environments, people don't get many opportunities to see the fruits of their labor.
Yes, what you are saying is so true. There is such a value to having something you had a part in creating and that you are proud of.
I’ll echo that sentiment. As someone who worked in the abstract world (ag research), my product was new information in published journal articles. There’s not much personal feedback from that. On the other hand, I have derived great satisfaction from the work on our farm improving the facilities, clearing and rebuilding fences, generally making things better. Feels good!
@@johnsadler8637 it does feel good! Very healthy for the physical body and mind. I love nothing more than a hard days work on our property. Nature is a wonderful healer that less and less ever get to experience.
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MAAAAAAAAWNIN EVERYONE & wishing all y’all a HAPPY & SAFE INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!….Looking good! Nice video work Melissa. Always enjoy seeing Hunter.
Have a day
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Good maaawnin back, Jack!
Ditto to all your points, on Melissa’s video work and Hunter too!
@@johnsadler8637 great minds think alike
I've been watching your road project through your videos. Thanks for the tips and technique discussions along the way. They are very helpful for a novice equipment operator. I've been working on a similar project, building an access road/trail through my woods and across a pond bank that separates the two settling ponds on my property. Your videos have given me ideas on how I approached various portions of my project. I can't say my grades are quite as nice as yours; however, I can now get my machines around the ponds to do maintenance and deal with downed trees and branches. Anyway, thanks for the cost analysis discussion. Your road project turned out great. I'll be interested to see the final installment after the last load of limestone is down.
Mike, I love this channel because you do my favorite things. Splitting wood, doing anything with wood, digging dirt, and expanding your property. Me and my dad did that at our property years ago with our small kubota b7500 tractor and backhoe, then bought a kubota rtv 1100 and used it as our mini dump truck to move fill around and then borrowed my uncles skidd steer and kubota kx121-3 mini excavator to do the work as well. We live in Cumberland Rhode Island and we don't have much land where we are, but it feels like we cleared lots of dirt and rocks. Shout out to you. I was here when you had your Polaris ranger and kubota l3901.
When I built my house I installed a gravel driveway but every time we had a hard rain I had to boxblade the gravel back on the driveway. About 25 years ago we had a chance to asphalt it. The driveway was 10 ft wide 1 1/2 in thick a d 600 ft long and cost $4000. I think you came out good on your cost. Have fun and stay safe!
Bluefords feelings are hurt!!!😮
Exactly!!
Get some 1/8” acrylic sheet scraps and make a seatbelt-buckle template to plug in while you’re on-property to shut up the dinger!
It’s always a great feeling at the end of the day to be able to see what all your hard work has accomplished. Definitely a testament to a good old work ethic. Great job!
Must have been fun driving the Big Ford and trailer on your new road to Morgan Park!
Using Melissa's "shopping math" absolutely loved it!
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Impressive!!! Side boards still intact.
Thanks for the numbers on making the road! Hi to Hunter!! 32 years old!
At that price, I would have made that much wider. At a minimum you need some pull overs in case of oncoming traffic. No one wants to back up 500' on a narrow road with trees and banks everywhere
Mike I must have missed the need for a stone road into the woods??
A future house? My guess😊
Mike, I had a rough estimate from a local builder in our area in our talks about a new home , he said they charge $4sq ft, so 4sq ft x 12 feet wide x 875 feet long your at 42,000, my driveway I’m looking to put in is 1200’ and I’m doing it myself 1/3 of it through woods and the other 2/3 through two fields, I’m following your theories owning my own equipment
Your comment about keeping the road on grade reminds me of a job interview for a dozer longtime ago. The applicant asked the boss that was overseeing tryouts What is the pay?
The boss told him $18-20+ an hour depending on skill level.
He goes to the bulldozer starts it proceeds to grade a road the boss had described he wanted him to build. He left from where the machine was sitting and about one third speed and blade was up and down to entire time till the end of the road.
Returning back he spins the machine around applying about three quarters throttle engages the road and leveling all the rowing material making a perfect surface for the road.
Gets off the machine going to the boss telling him “That was $18 going and $20 coming back. Your choice”.
Where I live the giant truck that delivers the stone will spread it on the driveway for free.
Here in Michigan you pay anywhere from 150-175 dollars per hour for a heavy equipment operator to work on your property.
So, using Melissa's math, your $28k savings is more than enough to put in that pool. I think that's the way she sees it!!🤣🤣
Congratulations on a job well done, so gratifying that you completed it yourself.
R u going to have some what of a parking lot at the end of the road to the left side to park vehicles.
Glad you’re near the finish line w/ your new road. It should be a lot more convenient getting to the meadow. I appreciate your cost estimate. We have a similar job ahead of us establishing our new homesite. No way I’d want to pay someone to do this. Like you, I want to do this job right, and put the saving to building our barndominium. Thanks for putting this together. Very helpful.
Mike, up here in Taxachussetts, excavator with an operator is $150 per hour average. 😮
That school bus of a truck doesn’t make things any easier. Where’s tthat new dump truck ?
The new dump truck looks more like a mini skid
I enjoyed that video, think I watch it again. Looks Good Mike!
I have approx 700ft of driveway I did back in 2020. Its 12" thick in some spots and it was about 12K. Thats with a friend hauling the gravel in with his dump and using his skid and my tractor. I also topped it with clean 3/4 in Limestone. So id say in today prices thats a great deal. Who's Denali Mike?
I still believe that spot would make a great homesight!!! Nice driveway
My driveway through the woods is over 2000'. Lots of cutting, stump pulling and loads of gravel.
Beautiful new road driveway. That’s about if work. For those who have or want to do similar, research “recycled crushed concrete”. Where I live it’s about 40 percent less expense and results in cement fines in the backfill. Once it rains crushed concrete aggregate gets very firm.
I sure do like the way you do things Mike.
Hello! 😊 Having the right equipment is one thing but a bigger thing is knowing what to do with it and when. Mike is relying on his years of experience in the highway and heavy construction industry to accomplish this project. The average Joe would not have that asset. People call me all the time and say, "I rented this equipment and attempted to do the job myself but it just didn't turn out. Would you come and complete the job? " .
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good morning David 😸😺
@@badcat4707 Hi BadCat, Happy Mewsday! 😸
@@OutdoorsWithTheMorgansGood morning Mike & Melissa!
Morning BadCat enjoy this nice stretch of weather....
In your case how much $ did you get gain in fire wood or lumber from the road that would have to be considered also the road by the way has come out real nice great work Mike 👍👋🇨🇦
Last load of stone? ...did I really just hear you say that? ...that's hilarious lol.
J/k Mike, it looks great. 😮
You're pretty blase about 140 hrs. If my ciphers are right, that's 3 and 1/2 WEEKS! Back in my good old days, I would tailgate gravel pretty thin, make several passes which would track it in fairly good (loaded truck), and any mistakes I made were almost not noticeable. It seemed to me, a lot less bounce out of the roadway too. Just a thot. Ya gotta watch for overhanging tree limbs and sagging electric service wires too. Tailgating isn't just easy, automatic road improvement. - One time, temp at freezing, the load partly froze back in the bed by the time I got to the job. When I raised the bed, it didn't stream out like usual. It caused the front end to go almost straight up, and I did an awesome wheelie part way down the lane!! When I could finally hit the brakes, the truck came back down and steerable again. Stuff happens. Gotta figure cost of underwear in costs of running equipment.
When you're doing that heavy slow work you should be in 4 low! Your transmission will thank you!keep up the great work 👍
Mike what I have found out when grading with a small piece of equipment is to keep at least a 1/2 bucket of materials in the bucket to stabilize the bucket, helps to take the slack out of the pins, bushings and linkage , any slop so to speak . You do a great job teaching bye the way that should be very beneficial to these youngsters, especially the one out here ramen the town pile 😊
What was the stone total for 2023?
Just a thought Mike - if you're looking for a name for your new road, it's in your title. Rt. 875 or Rd. 875. My brain on No Lunch yet today. Have a good day and trip with The Huntman.
Greg from northern Michigan. Very nice road. Equipment / fuel / experienced operator / insurance costs here run about $150 per hour. I would estimate this job around 200 hours to complete with tree removal and burn pile stacking, So 200 hrs at $150 per hour = $30k. Plus culvert and stone msterial would add another $15k. So your $45 to $50k estimate is right in line. And the quality of the outside contractor job would not be even close to your excellent work.
Since you are loosing the tracter and box plane have you looked at the grader atachment made by Spartan, makes the skid a small road grader, Just a thought for all the road you work on AND we enjoy your show
Figure on what you're going make from the firewood you get from the project
Yup spot on … I do this type of work and 40,000 is right about there….the big guy excavating company would be 50,000 and the illegal aliens would of been 25,000……either way…. I…the small business American…wouldn’t of gotten the job!………who do you think got the job?
Mike, why don't you buy a pull-behind roller so you can have a roller ALL THE TIME.
Loved your video, Did good on price of stone, But in this video we are feeling the heat in Arkansas and hard to relate, Anyway check out this video. Dirt Perfect. Last 13 hours. case cx140e experts show up. The experts show up and say no EGR or DPF filter. No DEF fluid (blue juice) needed ever.. 1000 hours before maintenance needed.. NO REGENE NEEDED. ever. He said it 4 times. Anyway it has a FTP engine Which is made in Italy. This would really be something to explore and watch.
In my area probably 45 grand. The inlaws just had something very similar.
Yes...Shopping math. I tell my wife just put that in my savings account.
If you read what I said the other day you could’ve had the truck that delivered the stuff to exactly what you’re doing. You have the box greater I don’t know why you did it this way anyway you’re the boss
They had a lot of rain, and the turnaround was very soft. So he played it safe and had them dump it. Smart move Mike.
Uhhhhm Mike…
You just tailgated…
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I don't remember you factoring in man power costs, I might have missed it. Did you consider that Mike just wondering.
$40 per hour equipment cost probably closer to $125 per hour!
It depends, but I charge 1000 to install culvert + around 400 for a 15 inch x 20 foot pipe delivered. Need to allocate 1 day for it, though the actual work takes 4 hrs or so…the other half the day is getting the pipe/loading/unloading/towing.
The reality is…without equipment and doing it yourself, it wouldn’t happen. Unless I’m mistaken, I’m not thinking y’all would spend 50k on the project. My driveway (only 350’) would look terrible if I had to pay someone to come maintain it every year. I get their cost as they have to load up, haul equipment, unload, do work and then load up again.
We talked about this issue recently with my brother who bought a dozer and Skidsteer years ago. For the work done in 4 years, they’ve more than paid for themselves and work continues.
I watched the whole political commercial. As painful as it was. Joe just paid for more precious metals.
Have a good one Mike. 🇺🇸
Interesting that you have it figured out, BUT, your time is worth something too. 140 hrs would likely add another $20,000 in contractor labour, so while the $50 K estimate is more likely closer to $70K wouldn’t you think. Couldn’t agree more that doing it for yourself saves the out of pocket for sure, but the value of doing it for yourself, as they say is priceless. Good job MIKE
Only if someone is willing to pay for your time. Otherwise, it's worth exactly 0.
Why do you use the Land plane going backwards versus pulling it forward?
Mike, you should subtract from your costs the value of lumber and firewood you harvested when building the road.
I live in Chipley florida, about 35 mile north of Panama City. The cost for #57 or #57 stone is $90 a ton delivered $1800 a truck load 20-22 ton
The other part to project cost though is that you are simultaneously generating revenue through lumber and firewood. So overall project costs are significantly lower for you then someone that hired a contractor.
hi there nice input , good show , best to all john
"I was pretty particular about it."
- MM
Really? So unlike you. 😂
This was a very informative video Mike. I was awaiting to see what you came up with on the costs, knowing your a numbers, math guy, i was really surprised at how much you saved, i mean you can be well on your way to paying for equipment with those kind of savings, and i think you really enjoy doing that type of work as well, so its a win win win, Enough saved Melissa may just get her pool :) ❤💯🙏
Doug have bbn you trained Levi to run your sawmill. I know he has operated all the firewood equipment. I've only seen you run the sawmill. If he hasn't run the mill yet, you should get him on it as your backup. Just the ramblings of an old man feeling his mortality. I love your videos and your opinions on things.
I would guess that just the profit from milling/cutting and selling the trees you took out will cover more than the cost of the road including your time, no?
Hi Mike. Did you ever reveal the total stone used in calendar year 2023? Maybe I missed it? Keep up the great videos!
Asphalt millings are going to $18.00 a ton, delivered, here in central Ohio.
Looks like a nice road you have going...good job! I've run those track machines since they hit the market way back when. I would recommend stone pile placement and trailer loading spotting to eliminate all the 180 degree spinning. It really does wear parts/tracks prematurely when rocks get in-between guides... rollers. It's always best to eliminate that excessive spinning by spotting your trailer at a 45 degree angle backed up close to the pile. That eliminates all the track wear spinning and all ya have to do is stab the pile..back out with slight angle turn and then approach the trailer. It's faster .....less wear....and less clean up. The tracks and rollers are not cheap..and since these are your machines I'm sure you want the tracks to last all the way to normal replacement. Good Job on the road!
I did this with my lawn tractor with a snow blade 20 years ago in my driveway in the Poconos. Almost killed the tractor.
Doesn't Hunter have a birthday coming up?
Wow that is a great looking road pride in your work manship is a simple thing even if the job is for someone else
Cheers Paul
If I had to guess I couldn't imagine anyone coming out with their machinery and doing anything for less than a minimum of $100 per hour.
That's not including bringing in any materials such as class 5 or crushed concrete or any stone.
Even if you were to rent the equipment and do it yourself , the cost would be substantial for 200 hours or so in rental fees .
I recently paid $900 for 25 tons of #4 which spread at 2” on 325’ by 9’ wide
Had 4.8 inches of rain just southwest of Kansas City yesterday morning in 5 hours
That should settle the dust for a day or two! 😳
How far southwest?
Wow we could use some but not that much
@@johnsadler8637 15 miles, Olathe, Ks
In California, where I live, you can double that, unfortunately.
Why do you keep burying your shale pit. You have acreage. Cant you keep a nice 1,000 yds stripped and at the ready to crown your roads! To keep outta water
I may have missed it, but did you account for your time at all (what it would cost to pay yourself/someone else)? Of course yours is a unique situation in that you also get content out of doing the work that pays you back.
plz introduce Eva' bo.....unless he may wash out ??? ha ha ha
Mike can you pick up some things with the mini skid that you know the exact weight of? I am thinking about getting one for my own operation and want to see if they can unload 1600 pounds from a deck over trailer.
4100$ for stone to cover 875'? that sounds too cheap.....
Hello Mike, I greatly appreciate your videos. I have learned a lot about material handling and I use the tactics with my subcompact tractor. I have a trail I want to build thru our wooded lot. I do have a question for you on how to cut into a side bank to a flat area for a ramp. But I will email you for that if it is okay with you? Keep up the great videos.👍
I think you should keep calling it the road to nowhere. Then call the clearing nowhere. If someone asks where you are going, you can say nowhere. Lol 😆 🤣 😂
Get some 1/8” acrylic sheet scraps and make a seatbelt-buckle template to plug in the truck while you’re on-property to shut up the dinger! Same for canam sxs!
Great video Mike, could you explain what the difference is between using a land plain and a box blade. I have a box blade and wounded if I should have purchased a land plain.
I did same, very expensive at $350 a truckload.
Wondering why you didn’t use a tractor to pull the trailer.