I just read it He Became a Supreme/god but cc goku slams CAS is only three layers into outerversal. So no, they don't upscale him. Goku did nothing to a Infinite Number of Outerversal Worlds in Base, CAS Upscales, and SO Does Archie
@@MidScales actually it's not true, the highest scale Goku reached was actually multiversal+ level with cca, also even his strongest transformation actually reached complex multiversal which is lower than Rimuru, you can search about it as well
You're likely mindwashed by the media if you dont think this is a argument, this is actually close and i might lean onto goku with whis one, rimuru is just too overrated and goku is at the very least Complex multiversal@@Alpha_Yozakura
You forgot to add that Rimuru have Reactive Evolution that allows his body to keep adapting to threats. It means if Goku would hit Rimuru once with his ki, he would develop resistance to it. Also his new skill Michael that allows him to use Castle Guard, the strongest defense in Tensura that protects you as long as someone believes in you.
@@thefallenking1283ok total neutral ground no one have any stake in either side as is typical of a vs. Rimuru wins since for goku fighting rimuru would be like fighting kid buu who absourbed the zeno, the grand priest, and Doomsday from DC comics.
@@abhijeetgolder7535 anime rimuru could beat goku and he wouldnt have time to go ssj. If we are going true vs rules then rimuru and goku are dropped infront of eachother in a empty verse, inhibitions removed and then the instant it starts raphael tells rimuru to use beelzebub. Beelzubub eats goku and the empty verse the end.
Google isn't wrong but don't rely on google for these kind of scaling unless someone give scaling with proof on reddit and Quora because they are almost always right
That theory would be good if isekai wasn't so in depth. It is not possible for the human mind to come up with all of those scenarios and characters during his last moments. Ultimately, it's a whole other world.
Great, he has minor time manipulation resistance. How does that tie into him beating someone who can destroy tens of thousands of multiverses while asleep.
@@MoojeeXR-2 Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos, and its not even 1% of his power since he upgrades every second non-stop
Rimuru has all of these: Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos
Rimuru anime version would be destroyed by cc goku but then there ln Rimuru and well cc goku is getting neg diffed (Db dbz the full series is my favourite anime and manga but I’m not blind enough to not know Ln Rimuru is 1 shotting cc goku)
Rimuru Tempest is the most overpowered character in all Anime did y'all forget that with Void God Azathoth he can absorb Goku and with Ciel analyze him and learn ALL of Goku's abilities so in the end it's not even a challenge and Rimuru wins with no difficulty
Rimuru is NOT the most op character in anime I will just give you example of 2 characters that can beat Rimuru but there are hundreds of them 1)Featherine can rewrite everything about the world as if writing a story 2)Vampire hunter D can escape from being trapped in infinite nothingness beyond mathematical calculation
@@gregkareem9824 Outversal, where did u get that from😂😂, lol u must be a goku die hard fan that know nth abt scaling. Goku is multiversal+ to complex multiversal if u highball him a lil. Rimuru is easily complex mutiversal to hypeversal. Get ur facts right bro
I'm a rimuru fan but I have to admit that goku wins high diff and fellow brother's and sisters (rimuru fans) stop making the goku fans cry becuz goku defeats rimuru (me crying after saying this😭)
@@kingofdragons2552 In which part is Goku a higher dimensional character If he can barely do anything to a low dimensional ability for example time base
@@IvanYT-1 mf alt, so broly and gogeta breaking through super dimensions that transcends dimensionality, moving in realms without the concept of space and time, shaking the infinite void, capable of destroying the macrocosme which contains infinite sized realms, being able to destroy the after life which doesn’t have the concept of space and time as well being above dimensionality. Keep coping
1 - True demon lord rimuru Has time and space ignoring attack Ki manipulation and its nullification Fate,causality, reality, time, space, power replication(sight), power replication(absorption), etc. is Low multiversal ( due to td scaling ) . Let me not explain TD Rimuru and DLF rimuru Since it will take me like an hour to explain 💀
Bro thats absolutely lowballing true demon lord, anime rimuru is much much powerful than than "low multiversal", anime rimuru has High-godly regeneration and High-godly resurrection, CM type 1(5 layers), EE, EE resistance, CE, CE resistance, regeneration negation, immortality(all types), immortality negation, and resurrection negation, Abstract existence type 1 and type 2, immeasurable attack speed via Beelzebub, fate manipulation, law manipulation, space-time manipulation, higher degree acausailty type 4, soul manipulation(6 layers) durability negation, resistance negation, non dual interaction, physics manipulation(6 layers) subjective reality(6 layers)and all types of element manipulation, reactive evolution, power nullification(6 layers), passive resistance negation(6 layers) power mimicry, power modification, invulnerability, incorporeality, statistic amplification and accelerated development, any magic or skill weaker than his ultimate skills will be automatically nullified, physical attack immunity mental attack immunity, natural effects nullification, abnormal condition nullification, multi-dimensional barriers, heat and cold nullification + resistances to ALL of his hax and abilities.
Which goku we talking if it's normal goku he gets clapped both ways and if it cc goku rimuru gets clapped both ways Who we takings about ( and yes i have read the light novel)
didntku's Universe-Creating Power in Ultra Instinct In the Dragon Ball universe, Goku's Ultra Instinct form is portrayed as a state where his body moves and reacts without conscious thought, allowing him to dodge and attack faster than time can be perceived. When he fully mastered Ultra Instinct, the power boost was so significant that his energy output could shake the entire multiverse, implying that he has universe-level destructive capabilities. In certain interpretations, it's even suggested that his sheer energy during battle created a new universe, a feat that places Goku’s destructive power on par with the gods of Dragon Ball. Comparison to Rimuru: While Rimuru Tempest possesses godlike reality-warping abilities, Goku’s Ultra Instinct allows him to not only react instantaneously but also exert force so powerful that it challenges the boundaries of existence itself. Goku's ability to shatter dimensions and potentially create universes shows that his power can match or exceed Rimuru's, even when considering Rimuru's reality-warping skills. 2. Superior Combat Experience and Martial Skill Goku’s extensive combat history gives him a significant edge in actual hand-to-hand battle. He’s fought against a wide variety of foes, from gods to demons, androids, and beings from other dimensions. Goku's mastery of combat strategies and techniques, combined with Ultra Instinct’s reflexes, makes him an unbeatable force in a straight fight. Rimuru's Experience: Rimuru is incredibly powerful and has gained the wisdom of many beings, but his combat experience is relatively limited compared to Goku. Rimuru relies on his abilities and intelligence, but in terms of raw combat skill and tactical genius in battle, Goku has the edge. Goku thrives in high-stakes fights and adapts quickly to his opponents' strategies, even those with complex powers like Rimuru’s. 3. Adaptability and Infinite Growth One of Goku’s defining characteristics is his infinite potential for growth. He constantly breaks his limits, no matter how powerful his opponent may be. Goku’s Saiyan biology gives him the Zenkai boost, where he grows stronger after every battle or near-death experience. This adaptability and constant improvement make him nearly impossible to permanently defeat in a drawn-out fight. Rimuru's Growth vs. Goku’s: While Rimuru can absorb and gain abilities, Goku's power growth is both limitless and exponential. As a Saiyan, Goku thrives in prolonged combat, adapting to his enemies and unlocking new power levels mid-battle, which makes him a nightmare for any opponent who underestimates his potential. 4. Ultra Instinct's Offensive and Defensive Prowess Ultra Instinct grants Goku near-omniscient awareness during combat. It allows him to dodge attacks effortlessly and launch counterstrikes with incredible precision and force. Unlike many reality-warping powers, which may require conscious thought, Ultra Instinct is purely instinctual. Rimuru, while incredibly powerful with abilities like spatial manipulation, energy absorption, and mind control, could struggle to even land a meaningful hit on Goku in Ultra Instinct. Rimuru’s Reality-Warping vs. Goku’s Reflexes: While Rimuru can manipulate reality, Goku’s Ultra Instinct allows him to move and react faster than time, meaning that many of Rimuru’s reality-warping abilities would be too slow to catch Goku off guard. Goku’s defensive reflexes in Ultra Instinct could outpace Rimuru’s attacks before they even happen. 5. Rimuru's Abilities vs. Goku’s Power Rimuru has impressive abilities like "Predator" and "Great Sage," which give him access to vast knowledge and power absorption, but Goku’s overwhelming energy output could make it hard for Rimuru to even get close. Ultra Instinct Goku is a fighter whose sheer physical and energy prowess may make it difficult for Rimuru to enact his plans. Rimuru’s abilities are powerful but rely on strategic execution, while Goku’s approach is more direct, delivering blows that could obliterate Rimuru’s defenses before he can respond. Conclusion: In a battle between regular Goku with all his forms and Rimuru Tempest, Goku’s raw power, universe-shaking energy output, infinite growth potential, and combat mastery through Ultra Instinct would give him the edge. Rimuru’s vast reality-warping abilities and intelligence make him a formidable opponent, but Goku’s unmatched physical power, ability to create universes, and instinctive combat reflexes could overwhelm Rimuru, especially in a prolonged fight where Goku would continue to evolve and adapt. While Rimuru is powerful, the power scaling in Dragon Ball is on a completely different level, and Goku’s ability to break the boundaries of time and space in Ultra Instinct could give him the victory.
i think you don´t know how op tensura is. Rimuru can erase and destroy Veldanavas world as much as he likes and Veldanavas World is the entire Tensura vers not a universe. Even the normal Worlds are at least 1A(+) they transcend the Labyrinth which is an L1A construct have multiple - infinite dimensions in them. There are infinite (inaccessible cardinal) worlds that transcend each other) and the Cardinal world (main Tensura world) is the/one of the highest. A single Human of the cardinal word already outscales all of DB. as for rimuru he has immeasurable speed and strength and most of his attacks transcend the concepts of space and time. His hax have also infinite - immeasurable speed and void god/ Beelzebub ignore/ transcend space, time, size, speed,... it all happens instantly so you can´t avoid or defend against it. Rimuru also has things like: Law, Space, Time, Power, Evolution, Fate, Causality, Reality, Physics, Magic, Soul,... Manipulation and is immune to Physical, Magical/Supernatural attacks, Natural and unnatural effects, Spiritual attacks, power manipulation, existence erasure,... He can even absorb nothingness itself. Most - to all tensura characters would destroy all of DB
Bro, can’t you just absorb Goku? I didn’t know how strong he was until I had he can literally destroy and create answers. I already know he’s given Goku a good fight because he can just absorb him but now I kind of think he might win against Goku.
Because he is Rimuru has the potential to surpass Veldanava the CREATOR of the Universe I don't see Goku creating Universe's and with infinite Turn Null Rimuru can create and destroy worlds and even Universe's like they're nothing more than ants so in the end Goku losses
Yall forget goku faced someone like rimuru...yes you guest it. MAJIIN BUU. He could turn people into food and absorb there power just like rimuru and so Goku has experience against that.
@@MegaStormNinja And I think you might’ve forgot that Rimuru’s power scaling dwarfs Zeno. But just for fun, let’s put the two on the same playing field, equal power scaling. Rimuru possesses multiple abilities that render him completely invulnerable to all forms of damage. Goku literally can’t even hurt Rimuru.
I already knew this video would be cap after hearing goku weakest form can take out the strongest characters in tensura, lol😂😂Rimuru isn't even in the top 10 in the anime and roughly gets to top 5 in the LN(only in the end of series of the WN, that he is the strongest) Firstly, from the video, im not sure u hv watched reincarnated as a slime anime or read the novel fully or u just didn't understand because u just mentioned some abilities from the novel just like void god azatoth and suspended world and excluded the basic ones in the anime like Physical attack nullification which already proves extremely vital to mention in this fight against a character whose power is based on pure strength. Since u mentioned his abilities from the LN, let's consider that version which is pretty much an overkill, there's pretty not much goku can do tbh. U stated goku grows stronger by getting beaten up, true but no physical attack thrown by goku would work. I mean none, it just get nullified by rimuru's hax (physical attack nullification). Kamehameha or spirit bomb won't work cuz he can easily absorb it using void god azatoth. Its pretty obvious from the abilities mentioned that rimuru would easily defeat goku. Ur scaling was really poor tbh. Rimuru transcends space and time and his aura alone when mistakenly released destroyed tens and thousands of universes which he created in an instant. Turn null which u mentioned is enough to wipe goku and his verse, not really sure u understand how it works cause if u did, u wouldnt make this conclusion even after stating it and what makes u think goku would survive a void god azatoth attack...............mahnn, just pure cap.
never heard of hax negete goku negete rimuru hax by his power easliy and to be sure KI and mana are the same but KI is much better to use thats what make it stronger DB weakest char can destroy a solar system easliy rimuru destroyed 10k worlds not even universes but worlds also its normal universes with space-time size so its 3D universes or 4D universes that put rimuru at multiversal-high-multiversal maby but he is beyond space-time making him 5D being but goku AP can shook higher dimensional realms or places which are like infinite 5D - 8D goku in the term of power and speed is superior while rimuru got better hax and abilites maby goku can counter rimuru and maby rimuru can counter goku if he was able to use his hax against him but that will not happen
@@mohamedexedell7973qi comes from nature does makes it a power that comes from something that exists thus become a natural energy attack and rimuru has a natural element nullification...
@@Cabba_S Rimuru has all of these: Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos Goku gets slammed lil bro
Xeno Goku is superior than Rimuru in terms of strength and speed. Rimuru can create ten thousands to infinite universes depend on the energy stored in his Imaginary Space. While Xeno Goku in Base Form able to fought Demigra who can collapse entire multiverse. This is what gogle says
Yes finally someone who has a brain.Like in tensura worlds are scaled higher than universes and someone weaker than rimuru veldora can destroy countless worlds just by releasing their aura
@ritish313 All 18 original universes combined scales lower than the Cardinal world. The Cardinal world transcends infinite dimensionality, space, time, timelines, realities, and cycles while all the dbs universes only transcends space, time, and dimensionality due to the kiaoshin realm and the afterlife.
Anime Rimuru wins mid diff, LN wins no diff. Anime Rimuru has physical attack n magical attack immunity the only things that can hurt him is spiritual or holy based attacks if I'm remembering correctly n and LN Rimuru as u said has void god azathoth and with it comes turn null the small drop of that energy can turn a small flame into a nuclear bomb.
@@braaandonnn1Sad thing is Rimuru is constantly evolving too so since he evolves every day he's infinitely transcending his previous self that's stronger than Veldanava
@@supersaiyanbluegogeta6852 nah i think those who watched only dragon ball thinks goku is only goat no one can beat him but reality is that many characters can beat goku including rimaru saitama and many more
@@mohamedexedell7973 none of them are above dimensionality are you on something give me the source where it is stated that they have transcend dimensionality don't make your own stuff none of them even have immeasurable speed Rimuru can just eat whole db for breakfast
DB ONLY Readers Needs Learn That in the Light novel Tensura Volume 21 Tensura chapter 3 Rimuru Survived being send to the end beyond Time and Space and becomes a Transcending Slime
just one thing a planete in the cardinal world is equal to a universe so in the cardinal world destroy a small island can put the guy to atleast country lvl just by one attack@@Kenarinor6650
@@KellisGray😂 Did even Read the Light Novel Tensura up to Volume 21 He has better Surving Feats Than Goku Because This Slime was send to the end beyond Time and Space which is The end of Everything SDBH Manga Goku has no Such Feats Surving the end beyond Time and Space SDBH Goku is HyperVersal to Low Outerversal at Best
@@Veldenavasenseino they don’t! He’s not even the strongest in his story! Goku fans just don’t like people putting goku against other characters that has ridiculous hacks when goku is essentially just a over powered martial artist
@@Veldenavasensei through magical hacks and blah blah. Just raw power tho, goku is ridiculously strong. Take away gokus ki he still super strong, his ki which he trained to get stronger is OP. He loses this battle but because of hacks and other powers.
It’s debatable cuz since goku has hax nullification if he’s stronger than someone,soul manipulation resistance, existence erasure resistance, and if you take the afterlife scale in the daizenshu than he should be low-mid outerversal. Since the afterlife transcends the concepts of space time. Larger than 6 infinite realms and will still not be filled even if you add the 6 infinite realms inside the afterlife. It’s harder to compare if you don’t use his feats.
@@needacharger3054 trancending concepts of time and space gives afterlife 5D so low complex multi, goku is massively weaker than rimuru so hax nullification doesn't work and goku never shown any kind of existance ereasure resistance even if you wanna go by your outerversal afterlife scaling rimuru still outscales
@@needacharger3054 yes but you said that Goku has existance ereasure resistance and even if Goku uses hakai on rimuru, he's to weak to affect him And if you mean Goku surviving hakai from frieza in resurrection F then 1st point is that frieza's hakai was imperfect and 2nd point would be hax nullification that you mentioned yourself
also in battle of god the universal feat is wrong when two people hit fists barely any of the force gets transported out so if anything he is far above universal or multiversal for that matter in god and if its anime goku he has this absorbed in his base and then can use god to get this power again stacked multiversal times multiversal is like saying solar systems times solar systems the size is so big the ammount is un comprehensible but because this was when he couldnt full control his god power yet thats why he was threatenin the univer and why in every fight this doesnt happen and for villains it just natural ki control but all these explosions damage universal level fighters so the power still stands
I’m a dragon ball fan before a slime fan, but between dbs manga goku getting waxed by black frieza, compared to light novel rimuru being capable of creating an infinite multiverse, or absorbing and collapsing that multiverse, manipulating, halting time, etc. rimuru is quite a bit higher than the Omni kings themselves.
@@RimuruURG Mate doesn’t know what crying is. Crying is whining, crying is getting upset 😢. You’re clearly upset mate, relax a bit, make some friends and touch some grass. You can sit here and argue the overwhelming majority that are competent enough to read something that doesn’t have pictures 😂 god you’re slow. I’ll let you catch up to the rest of us and apologize in a few years mate 🪦
1. Physical attacks don't work on rimuru 2. Speedblitz? Goku doesn't even have immeasurable speed, goku at the bare minimum is infinite speed. Tell me how is goku going to Speedblitz a guy who can travel across Multiverses?
How will goku hurt anime rimuru!? anime rimuru has High-godly regeneration and High-godly resurrection, CM type 1(5 layers), EE, EE resistance, CE, CE resistance, regeneration negation, immortality(all types), immortality negation, and resurrection negation, Abstract existence type 1 and type 2, immeasurable attack speed via Beelzebub, fate manipulation, law manipulation, space-time manipulation, higher degree acausailty type 4, soul manipulation(6 layers) durability negation, resistance negation, non dual interaction, physics manipulation(6 layers) subjective reality(6 layers)and all types of element manipulation, reactive evolution, power nullification(6 layers), passive resistance negation(6 layers) power mimicry, power modification, invulnerability, incorporeality, statistic amplification and accelerated development, any magic or skill weaker than his ultimate skills will be automatically nullified, physical attack immunity mental attack immunity, natural effects nullification, abnormal condition nullification, multi-dimensional barriers, heat and cold nullification + resistances to ALL of his hax and abilities.
These comments are full of delusional people lisen GOKU SOLOOSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!people always underestimate Goku
It is common because GOKU vers is old nowadays. Don't you think if GOKU still stays at the top, then what will happen to the manga writers? So practically, they will write manga with more powerful characters than GOKU, won't they? And we should accept this.
Shut up goku solo, he is the king of anime 🗿💯 your rimuru is fodder here Goku training for his power more of 40 years to become stronger and yet, your fodder rimuru where he get his power and abilities huh? A gift from the author ? don't compare this fodder again with goku Goku > the fodders 💯@@royalcrewnepal5449
Please tell me you were saying Goku's weakest forms can solo the strongest in ANIME tensura because if it was light novel tensura some of the c class characters could wipe the floor with Goku's weaker forms it would take super Saiyan 3 to beat the c class characters andit would take all of the verse canon and non canon all fused together to beat ln 5th true dragon Rimuru and then wn rimuru would take all the canon and non canon versions if every single character in dragon ball 10 times to win
With what feat that places him that high?I mean I would not really agree but I would understand saying cc beats rimuru depending on form but saying universe is out the picture because veldanava exists and cc goku has nothing that could come close to damaging him and still couldn't hurt rimuru even if he tried
Bro at this point Its not about experience, they are so strong that strong isnt even the right word... the fight wouldn't end or if it did, as sad as it is, rimuru is probably gonna win (dbz fan here)
Wait!, Rimuru has infinite skills and you know that right?, Spirit ball or any power is nothing for Rimuru, and Rimuru become God in the end of Manga, He have many Barrier such as Castle Guard, Multi barrier, Absolute Defense, plus he is A true Dragon, he have physical Attack nullification and pain Nullification, he has infinite skills he can alter skills, modified and copy skills... Your statement is base on physical strength only you don't even consider all of Rimuru's power and in terms of Speed Rimuru have thought acceleration 100 million times, plus suspended world
you dont understand scaling or cosmology, rimuru cant negate any hacks goku uses. cosmology >hax, also many people dont know how many busted hax goku has. goku neggs
@@islemtaguenit5724 possibly Umineko There is a woman called featherine who is a goddess and can write fate of the world as if writing a story Btw if you want to watch Umineko, don't watch the anime and only read the manga The manga is amazingly written but anime is butchered
even after watching this people gonna say rimuru wins ;-; oh yeah and btw now that Goku mastered ui he can dodge anything bc ui isnt speed it is a move that separates the mind and the body making the body move without even knowing the next attack, you can see this happen with Whis (Dragon ball super Broly), when Gogeta used instant transmission (faster than speed itself) and Whis dodges it before Gogeta even arrives
Rimuru create universes because it’s he’s power goku however creates galaxies to demonstrate his power they are not the same and he can by now can destroy his universe if he wants to
This video is unbelivably biased. Rimuru can litterly do etherything goku can just better and much much more not to mention how much Rimuru outscales and outhax goku + verse
💀💀 wut kind of joke is this? The difference between them is a bit too unfair to even compare...Rimuru would quite literally wipe the entire DB verse out of existence. And yes, I'm taking into account every cannon form that Goku has.
Rimuru's end stage in the Web Novel is far beyond anything Zeno or the Angels could imagine
I just read it He Became a Supreme/god but cc goku slams CAS is only three layers into outerversal. So no, they don't upscale him. Goku did nothing to a Infinite Number of Outerversal Worlds in Base, CAS Upscales, and SO Does Archie
@@MidScales actually it's not true, the highest scale Goku reached was actually multiversal+ level with cca, also even his strongest transformation actually reached complex multiversal which is lower than Rimuru, you can search about it as well
@@MidScales the only way to defeat Rimuru is by using non canon goku
@@MidScales actually Rimuru is hyperversal, you can go and search
@@D1AN4_L0v3Allgoku is outerversal my guy,
I can’t wait to see paragraph’s on both sides of the arguments 😭
There are no arguments, if you watched this and think that Rimuru is weaker then you are just in denial
You're likely mindwashed by the media if you dont think this is a argument, this is actually close and i might lean onto goku with whis one, rimuru is just too overrated and goku is at the very least Complex multiversal@@Alpha_Yozakura
@@Alpha_Yozakura go on Google and type in can cc goku beat rimuru you'll see the answers.
@@Alpha_Yozakurayou realise how dumb that sounds ?
@@Isitbeautiful276 how dumb is it explain genius.
Ngl, realistically they would have become friends
You forgot to add that Rimuru have Reactive Evolution that allows his body to keep adapting to threats. It means if Goku would hit Rimuru once with his ki, he would develop resistance to it.
Also his new skill Michael that allows him to use Castle Guard, the strongest defense in Tensura that protects you as long as someone believes in you.
I didn't watch the show let but if tha true wouldn't that remove stakes
@@thefallenking1283ok total neutral ground no one have any stake in either side as is typical of a vs. Rimuru wins since for goku fighting rimuru would be like fighting kid buu who absourbed the zeno, the grand priest, and Doomsday from DC comics.
I don't see Rimuru Would loss, for sure you don't know who Rimuru is
Look anime Rimuru isn't pushing current Goku towards even ssj .
@@abhijeetgolder7535 anime rimuru could beat goku and he wouldnt have time to go ssj. If we are going true vs rules then rimuru and goku are dropped infront of eachother in a empty verse, inhibitions removed and then the instant it starts raphael tells rimuru to use beelzebub. Beelzubub eats goku and the empty verse the end.
Google said Goku can't even hurt rimuru
Old hag u depending on google
Google 😂😂
Google isn't wrong but don't rely on google for these kind of scaling unless someone give scaling with proof on reddit and Quora because they are almost always right
@@Animelover-e4o bruh , google aint trustable
@@desmondini That's literally what I said too can't you understand that
I love how he says it’s a total wipeout but doesn’t say that rimuru no/low diffs goku
Bro just wanted to increase his comment by starting war😂😂😂
true 😂
What if isekai is just the fantasy of guy who is dying and we are watching him going through his fantasy
Nope spoilers
It took countless loops of time for rimuru to beat the eastern empire by Chloe
@@josephrogers3666 what does this spoiler has to do with my theory?
That theory would be good if isekai wasn't so in depth. It is not possible for the human mind to come up with all of those scenarios and characters during his last moments. Ultimately, it's a whole other world.
@@ayushel7264 exactly
Jiren is said to have been so strong that time does not work on him, MUI goku is stronger than jiren
Great, he has minor time manipulation resistance. How does that tie into him beating someone who can destroy tens of thousands of multiverses while asleep.
We all know rimuru is stronger than goku in almost all ways there really is no arguments.
give me one (even if it's copy and paste 🤣 )
@@MoojeeXR-2 we can have a debate (using google or not) once you can show me you are mature enough to take me seriously and not waste my time
why you know rimuru is stronger than goku who told ya ?
read DB scaling and guied books
goku neggs
ITS AN FACT
@@MoojeeXR-2 Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos, and its not even 1% of his power since he upgrades every second non-stop
Rimuru has all of these: Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos
Not doing nothing tho
Rimuru is overrated
Rimuru is superhuman that just down grade him a lot
@@theonewhosleepshard now elaborate how lil bro
@@TheGolden_YT1 well I'm using your statement
Rimuru has the ability to see someone next move
Goku absolutely bodies no diff
rimurus pawns alone are able to go against the whole dbz verse
Actually that’s to overkill since the weakest servent is low hyper or higher rn
@citkeyy all of rimurus right hands like diablo or shiron and the Rest can go against the dbz Verse. Itll be a close fight but rimurus Team will win
@ not really anymore since even ranga was playing with the fabric of space like a toy
This is rage bait right?
i think it is
Yah
Yeah
The crazy thing is it's not a 1v1, it's a 2v1 cause ciel Constantly make skills to counter goku
This is what happens when you compare hax to raw strength
Rimuru anime version would be destroyed by cc goku but then there ln Rimuru and well cc goku is getting neg diffed
(Db dbz the full series is my favourite anime and manga but I’m not blind enough to not know Ln Rimuru is 1 shotting cc goku)
@@Disconinja1001omg a dbs fan with a brain this is legendary moment
@@Disconinja1001drop ur cord kid dont dodge
@@immobilegrain8809wanna debate?
@@Vellichoria what I’m saying is goku loses to light novel Rimuru
Rimuru Tempest is the most overpowered character in all Anime did y'all forget that with Void God Azathoth he can absorb Goku and with Ciel analyze him and learn ALL of Goku's abilities so in the end it's not even a challenge and Rimuru wins with no difficulty
Rimuru is NOT the most op character in anime
I will just give you example of 2 characters that can beat Rimuru but there are hundreds of them
1)Featherine can rewrite everything about the world as if writing a story
2)Vampire hunter D can escape from being trapped in infinite nothingness beyond mathematical calculation
Tell me you know nothing about power scaling without telling me you know nothing about power scaling💀
Cope rimuru is planet level goku is outerveral or higher rimuru absorption technique won't work at all my dude goku is in a higher dimension.
@@gregkareem9824 I don't even know if I should laugh at your brain rot or cry because of your stupidity💀
@@gregkareem9824higher dimension? You mean he’s a higher dimensional being?
@@gregkareem9824 Outversal, where did u get that from😂😂, lol u must be a goku die hard fan that know nth abt scaling. Goku is multiversal+ to complex multiversal if u highball him a lil. Rimuru is easily complex mutiversal to hypeversal. Get ur facts right bro
@@JARMIDz yes
lol in the video he lists all of Rimuru’s weakest skills. 😂😂
But you forgot PHYSICAL DAMAGE WONT AFFECT RIMURU 🤣and BELZE😁
But you forgot HAX COULD NOT WORK AT HIGHER DIMENSIONAL CHARECTER 🤣
@@MoojeeXR-2uhm, thats not how it works,and even if it's like that,rimuru dimensional scales higher
@@Kyoko-kirigiri-sann go and learn english "hugher"
@@MoojeeXR-2 well
1. It depends a person can have higher dimensional ap but not existence
2. Goku doesn’t even have higher dimensional ap
@@MoojeeXR-2 it's DEPENDS IF HIS SKILLS OR ABILITIES HAS EXISTENCE ERASURE IT CAN STILL AFFECT
Goku can't even touch rimuru, cant even hurt him
Bro doesn't know that Goku Is A manga/Fantasy To Rimuru thats why veldora learn to use Kamehameha
Exactly Rimuru already knows everything about Goku from the Manga vendors was reading
@RandolphBethel-ub7by it is canon
@RandolphBethel-ub7by no milim is just too op
@RandolphBethel-ub7by cope
@RandolphBethel-ub7by it's true she is one the most powerfull being in tensura
Bro add xeno goku or cc goku goku destroys rimuru
I'm a rimuru fan but I have to admit that goku wins high diff and fellow brother's and sisters (rimuru fans) stop making the goku fans cry becuz goku defeats rimuru (me crying after saying this😭)
goku neggs rimuru no diff.
In what sense can Goku beat a higher dimensional character
@@IvanYT-1 In a sense that Goku is higher dimensionally then that slime
@@kingofdragons2552 In which part is Goku a higher dimensional character If he can barely do anything to a low dimensional ability for example time base
@@IvanYT-1 mf alt, so broly and gogeta breaking through super dimensions that transcends dimensionality, moving in realms without the concept of space and time, shaking the infinite void, capable of destroying the macrocosme which contains infinite sized realms, being able to destroy the after life which doesn’t have the concept of space and time as well being above dimensionality. Keep coping
How you can get nearly 900 comments on a video with only 9k views is beyond me
1 - True demon lord rimuru
Has time and space ignoring attack
Ki manipulation and its nullification
Fate,causality, reality, time, space, power replication(sight), power replication(absorption), etc. is Low multiversal ( due to td scaling ) .
Let me not explain TD Rimuru and DLF rimuru
Since it will take me like an hour to explain 💀
Bro thats absolutely lowballing true demon lord, anime rimuru is much much powerful than than "low multiversal", anime rimuru has High-godly regeneration and High-godly resurrection, CM type 1(5 layers), EE, EE resistance, CE, CE resistance, regeneration negation, immortality(all types), immortality negation, and resurrection negation, Abstract existence type 1 and type 2, immeasurable attack speed via Beelzebub, fate manipulation, law manipulation, space-time manipulation, higher degree acausailty type 4, soul manipulation(6 layers) durability negation, resistance negation, non dual interaction, physics manipulation(6 layers) subjective reality(6 layers)and all types of element manipulation, reactive evolution, power nullification(6 layers), passive resistance negation(6 layers) power mimicry, power modification, invulnerability, incorporeality, statistic amplification and accelerated development, any magic or skill weaker than his ultimate skills will be automatically nullified, physical attack immunity mental attack immunity, natural effects nullification, abnormal condition nullification, multi-dimensional barriers, heat and cold nullification + resistances to ALL of his hax and abilities.
@@MrMoments2rejoice
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One answer TENSURA CARDINAL WORLD(and u know whats up with it)
Rimuru is planet level goku outerveral or higher
@@gregkareem9824 ah yes one of those wankers/meatriders
Which goku we talking if it's normal goku he gets clapped both ways and if it cc goku rimuru gets clapped both ways
Who we takings about ( and yes i have read the light novel)
Bro haven't read the light novel or anything about rimiru bros a big goku fan fr
Should we bring CC Goku than
@@Lalduhsaki-wn3rj rimuru can literally eat him and he can alter reality with his primordial magic goku ain't shi
Lol cc goku still gets clapped
Bro haven't seen dragon ball scans bros a big goku downplayer
Gralic jr can create space time and kid gohan was stronger than him also dont bring gojo cuz its not the same thing
didntku's Universe-Creating Power in Ultra Instinct
In the Dragon Ball universe, Goku's Ultra Instinct form is portrayed as a state where his body moves and reacts without conscious thought, allowing him to dodge and attack faster than time can be perceived. When he fully mastered Ultra Instinct, the power boost was so significant that his energy output could shake the entire multiverse, implying that he has universe-level destructive capabilities. In certain interpretations, it's even suggested that his sheer energy during battle created a new universe, a feat that places Goku’s destructive power on par with the gods of Dragon Ball.
Comparison to Rimuru: While Rimuru Tempest possesses godlike reality-warping abilities, Goku’s Ultra Instinct allows him to not only react instantaneously but also exert force so powerful that it challenges the boundaries of existence itself. Goku's ability to shatter dimensions and potentially create universes shows that his power can match or exceed Rimuru's, even when considering Rimuru's reality-warping skills.
2. Superior Combat Experience and Martial Skill
Goku’s extensive combat history gives him a significant edge in actual hand-to-hand battle. He’s fought against a wide variety of foes, from gods to demons, androids, and beings from other dimensions. Goku's mastery of combat strategies and techniques, combined with Ultra Instinct’s reflexes, makes him an unbeatable force in a straight fight.
Rimuru's Experience: Rimuru is incredibly powerful and has gained the wisdom of many beings, but his combat experience is relatively limited compared to Goku. Rimuru relies on his abilities and intelligence, but in terms of raw combat skill and tactical genius in battle, Goku has the edge. Goku thrives in high-stakes fights and adapts quickly to his opponents' strategies, even those with complex powers like Rimuru’s.
3. Adaptability and Infinite Growth
One of Goku’s defining characteristics is his infinite potential for growth. He constantly breaks his limits, no matter how powerful his opponent may be. Goku’s Saiyan biology gives him the Zenkai boost, where he grows stronger after every battle or near-death experience. This adaptability and constant improvement make him nearly impossible to permanently defeat in a drawn-out fight.
Rimuru's Growth vs. Goku’s: While Rimuru can absorb and gain abilities, Goku's power growth is both limitless and exponential. As a Saiyan, Goku thrives in prolonged combat, adapting to his enemies and unlocking new power levels mid-battle, which makes him a nightmare for any opponent who underestimates his potential.
4. Ultra Instinct's Offensive and Defensive Prowess
Ultra Instinct grants Goku near-omniscient awareness during combat. It allows him to dodge attacks effortlessly and launch counterstrikes with incredible precision and force. Unlike many reality-warping powers, which may require conscious thought, Ultra Instinct is purely instinctual. Rimuru, while incredibly powerful with abilities like spatial manipulation, energy absorption, and mind control, could struggle to even land a meaningful hit on Goku in Ultra Instinct.
Rimuru’s Reality-Warping vs. Goku’s Reflexes: While Rimuru can manipulate reality, Goku’s Ultra Instinct allows him to move and react faster than time, meaning that many of Rimuru’s reality-warping abilities would be too slow to catch Goku off guard. Goku’s defensive reflexes in Ultra Instinct could outpace Rimuru’s attacks before they even happen.
5. Rimuru's Abilities vs. Goku’s Power
Rimuru has impressive abilities like "Predator" and "Great Sage," which give him access to vast knowledge and power absorption, but Goku’s overwhelming energy output could make it hard for Rimuru to even get close. Ultra Instinct Goku is a fighter whose sheer physical and energy prowess may make it difficult for Rimuru to enact his plans. Rimuru’s abilities are powerful but rely on strategic execution, while Goku’s approach is more direct, delivering blows that could obliterate Rimuru’s defenses before he can respond.
Conclusion:
In a battle between regular Goku with all his forms and Rimuru Tempest, Goku’s raw power, universe-shaking energy output, infinite growth potential, and combat mastery through Ultra Instinct would give him the edge. Rimuru’s vast reality-warping abilities and intelligence make him a formidable opponent, but Goku’s unmatched physical power, ability to create universes, and instinctive combat reflexes could overwhelm Rimuru, especially in a prolonged fight where Goku would continue to evolve and adapt.
While Rimuru is powerful, the power scaling in Dragon Ball is on a completely different level, and Goku’s ability to break the boundaries of time and space in Ultra Instinct could give him the victory.
i think you don´t know how op tensura is.
Rimuru can erase and destroy Veldanavas world as much as he likes and Veldanavas World is the entire Tensura vers not a universe.
Even the normal Worlds are at least 1A(+) they transcend the Labyrinth which is an L1A construct have multiple - infinite dimensions in them.
There are infinite (inaccessible cardinal) worlds that transcend each other) and the Cardinal world (main Tensura world) is the/one of the highest.
A single Human of the cardinal word already outscales all of DB.
as for rimuru
he has immeasurable speed and strength and most of his attacks transcend the concepts of space and time.
His hax have also infinite - immeasurable speed and void god/ Beelzebub ignore/ transcend space, time, size, speed,... it all happens instantly so you can´t avoid or defend against it.
Rimuru also has things like:
Law, Space, Time, Power, Evolution, Fate, Causality, Reality, Physics, Magic, Soul,... Manipulation and is immune to Physical, Magical/Supernatural attacks, Natural and unnatural effects,
Spiritual attacks, power manipulation, existence erasure,...
He can even absorb nothingness itself.
Most - to all tensura characters would destroy all of DB
Bro, can’t you just absorb Goku? I didn’t know how strong he was until I had he can literally destroy and create answers. I already know he’s given Goku a good fight because he can just absorb him but now I kind of think he might win against Goku.
finally someone with a brain said that goku is stronger than rimuru like why on god’s green earth would you think rimuru is stronger💀
@@AS90VR Because Rimuru can quite literally eat the entire Dragon Ball universe and assimilate it. Then make variant copies of it.
Because he is Rimuru has the potential to surpass Veldanava the CREATOR of the Universe I don't see Goku creating Universe's and with infinite Turn Null Rimuru can create and destroy worlds and even Universe's like they're nothing more than ants so in the end Goku losses
Yall forget goku faced someone like rimuru...yes you guest it. MAJIIN BUU. He could turn people into food and absorb there power just like rimuru and so Goku has experience against that.
@@MegaStormNinja And I think you might’ve forgot that Rimuru’s power scaling dwarfs Zeno.
But just for fun, let’s put the two on the same playing field, equal power scaling. Rimuru possesses multiple abilities that render him completely invulnerable to all forms of damage. Goku literally can’t even hurt Rimuru.
Maybe because rimuru is outerversal and wipes universes he sees as fiction out with his aura like veldora (cause he’s stronger)
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE BRO LIKE FINALLY THIS IS CRAZY
8YR OLD FOUNDDD
Without*
Listen, Rimuru wins no diff. Thats it, theres nothing more
Goku fans cannot accept Goku got defeated
thats not an argument so no ones gonna care
@@Veldenavasensei lol
@@KinDeth-R6 cry more Goku fan 😭😭
@@KinDeth-R6 cry more gayku
This is based off the anime adaptation. He didn’t read the light novels otherwise rimuru would absolutely clown on goku.
I already knew this video would be cap after hearing goku weakest form can take out the strongest characters in tensura, lol😂😂Rimuru isn't even in the top 10 in the anime and roughly gets to top 5 in the LN(only in the end of series of the WN, that he is the strongest) Firstly, from the video, im not sure u hv watched reincarnated as a slime anime or read the novel fully or u just didn't understand because u just mentioned some abilities from the novel just like void god azatoth and suspended world and excluded the basic ones in the anime like Physical attack nullification which already proves extremely vital to mention in this fight against a character whose power is based on pure strength. Since u mentioned his abilities from the LN, let's consider that version which is pretty much an overkill, there's pretty not much goku can do tbh.
U stated goku grows stronger by getting beaten up, true but no physical attack thrown by goku would work. I mean none, it just get nullified by rimuru's hax (physical attack nullification). Kamehameha or spirit bomb won't work cuz he can easily absorb it using void god azatoth. Its pretty obvious from the abilities mentioned that rimuru would easily defeat goku. Ur scaling was really poor tbh. Rimuru transcends space and time and his aura alone when mistakenly released destroyed tens and thousands of universes which he created in an instant. Turn null which u mentioned is enough to wipe goku and his verse, not really sure u understand how it works cause if u did, u wouldnt make this conclusion even after stating it and what makes u think goku would survive a void god azatoth attack...............mahnn, just pure cap.
never heard of hax negete
goku negete rimuru hax by his power easliy
and to be sure KI and mana are the same but KI is much better to use thats what make it stronger
DB weakest char can destroy a solar system easliy
rimuru destroyed 10k worlds not even universes but worlds also its normal universes with space-time size so its 3D universes or 4D universes
that put rimuru at multiversal-high-multiversal maby but he is beyond space-time making him 5D being
but goku AP can shook higher dimensional realms or places which are like infinite 5D - 8D
goku in the term of power and speed is superior while rimuru got better hax and abilites
maby goku can counter rimuru
and maby rimuru can counter goku if he was able to use his hax against him but that will not happen
Frrr
GOKU SOLOS EVERY ANIME CHARACTER NO DIF
@@mohamedexedell7973qi comes from nature does makes it a power that comes from something that exists thus become a natural energy attack and rimuru has a natural element nullification...
@@mohamedexedell7973you should watch more Chinese kungfu movies to understand what i mean.
Let’s be honest…kid Goku would solo Rimuru and his entire universe before he learned the Kamehameha.
debate
That's the biggest cap i have ever seen
Rimuru can create and destroy universes and eat souls, but goku wins anyway I guess
Creating and destroying universes is only a universal feat, base goku slams
@@Cabba_Sthe meat riding is crazy
@@Mlio291 Gabba Love's Goku's meat with this amount of meat riding
Rimuru soles😂😂 go read LN
@@Cabba_S Rimuru has all of these: Superhuman physical characteristics, weapon proficiency (swords), huge size (types 1-9), shock waves, resistance (all types), barriers, guided attacks, weapon manipulation, extrasensory perception, healing, gravity manipulation, summoning (demons, spirits), multiple personalities, neatness, superhuman feelings, spiritual damage, conceptual damage, explosion manipulation, dimensional attacks, slashes, energy attacks, adaptability, absorption (memory, skills, abilities, living and inanimate matter), vampirism, immortality (all types), regeneration (up to type 8, probably type 9), shape change (up to type 7), body control (type 6, 7, 8), inhuman physiology, invisibility, impalpability, manipulation of feelings, fusion, biological manipulation, manipulation of vibrations, manipulation of temperature, manipulation of cold, manipulation of matter, manipulation of sound, manipulation of weather, manipulation of energy, mental manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, clones, teleportation, resurrection, copying, magic, contracts, spiritual manipulation, manipulation of reality, manipulation of abilities, astronomical manipulation, space travel, manipulation of probability, manipulation of time, manipulation of gravity, manipulation of causality, manipulation of space, dimensional manipulation, conceptual manipulation, manipulation of information, manipulation of logic, manipulation of non-existence, non-causality, manipulation of pianos
Goku gets slammed lil bro
W - thanx for information
Finally someone with a brain
Xeno Goku is superior than Rimuru in terms of strength and speed. Rimuru can create ten thousands to infinite universes depend on the energy stored in his Imaginary Space. While Xeno Goku in Base Form able to fought Demigra who can collapse entire multiverse.
This is what gogle says
bro have u not read the light novel or something rimuru annihilates goku
he put anime goku mg
@@KinDeth-R6 anime goku gets destroyed goku is low multi at best and overrated
@@toddreese6225 goku is 5D easily.
2020 kids@@toddreese6225
@@toddreese6225rimuru is the worst overrated
Not going to lie though I can see it both Goku and Rimuru would get along with each other pretty well 🤷
There not going to meet each other
So, where is the scaling for both characters? And, cosmology of these characters' respective verses and where they scale.
Yes finally someone who has a brain.Like in tensura worlds are scaled higher than universes and someone weaker than rimuru veldora can destroy countless worlds just by releasing their aura
@@raji314 a single universe of db still scales higher than one universe in tensura
@@ritish313reread
Rimuru soles still lol
@ritish313 All 18 original universes combined scales lower than the Cardinal world. The Cardinal world transcends infinite dimensionality, space, time, timelines, realities, and cycles while all the dbs universes only transcends space, time, and dimensionality due to the kiaoshin realm and the afterlife.
For all those people who think rimuru will win no because of cc goku and zeno goku and hey goku DOSENT HAVE LIMITS
They are not canon yk?
Anime Rimuru wins mid diff, LN wins no diff. Anime Rimuru has physical attack n magical attack immunity the only things that can hurt him is spiritual or holy based attacks if I'm remembering correctly n and LN Rimuru as u said has void god azathoth and with it comes turn null the small drop of that energy can turn a small flame into a nuclear bomb.
cc goku slams
@@gamingleaguesl If you say so
CC goku is overkill DBS goku neggs tensura @@gamingleaguesl
Thats cap @gamingleagesl
@adheenhusin-oz5kk ohh really and how is it cap ?
Bro didnt even scale them and didnt even say how one was stronger than the other🤔🤔
Seems like hes only seen anime rimuru. Rimuru vs zeno would be a closer matchup
nah its not
goku can destroy universes \ multiverses as well he shook higher dimensional places which is above rimuru
@@mohamedexedell7973 correct, and rimuru can create, destroy, and manipulate universes. Kind of doesn't sound close
@@braaandonnn1pls tell me you saw LN rimuru
@Ishi113 the same one who basically is veldanava but with cheat codes? Yup yup. Sorry goku nostalgia doesn't touch the creator of everything
@@braaandonnn1Sad thing is Rimuru is constantly evolving too so since he evolves every day he's infinitely transcending his previous self that's stronger than Veldanava
Why is everyone saying rimuru can one shot goku? Goku wins pretty easily here and I’m being serious here.
You think bur rimuru solos DBZ verse
@@IAMGODXD36 Nah. I think people glaze on him to much.
@@supersaiyanbluegogeta6852 nah i think those who watched only dragon ball thinks goku is only goat no one can beat him but reality is that many characters can beat goku including rimaru saitama and many more
@@IAMGODXD36 Saitama? Really? Brotha he can’t even beat nappa💀
@@IAMGODXD36 I literally just school someone who thinks saitama can solo dragon ball. But he’s only strongest feat was multi solar 💀
Rimuru solo db Verse no diff
An old and incorrect statement there is super shenron and arale zeno who are above space-time dimensionaltiy he isnt close to solos the verse
@@mohamedexedell7973 none of them are above dimensionality are you on something give me the source where it is stated that they have transcend dimensionality don't make your own stuff none of them even have immeasurable speed Rimuru can just eat whole db for breakfast
@@Unknown-uu1xvyes he can do that
@@StevenJones851 who can do What??
DB ONLY Readers Needs Learn That in the Light novel Tensura Volume 21 Tensura chapter 3 Rimuru Survived being send to the end beyond Time and Space and becomes a Transcending Slime
Rimuru can’t easily be beaten, but Goku can’t easily be outpowered.
I can't laugh Enough, why comparing Rimuru to Goku while any of Rimuru's Subordinates can Demolish Goku with no diff. 😂😂😂😂
Nope they can't even destroy small island🤣🤣🤣
@@Kenarinor6650they can tho
@@SlothyBoyDino not anime version only light novel
just one thing a planete in the cardinal world is equal to a universe so in the cardinal world destroy a small island can put the guy to atleast country lvl just by one attack@@Kenarinor6650
and i think koushik was talking about their LN version@@Kenarinor6650
Thank you finally gets it
Goku could wipe out there universe
Lol bro be living in a delusion rimuru soloes easily
L take, "Pro vs Noobie" is wild, not enough respect given to Raphael and Rimuru's martial arts knowledge as well as his ability to adapt
Nah this is cap Rimruru Solo's the verse
WN rimuru aka the strongest rimuru, is only Hyperversal. Main line goku from DBS has several Outer metas, idk what you’re on about
@@JARMIDzGoon spotted Opinion Rejected
@@KJGETThaBread how come is it a "goon opinion"? The metas exist, it’s not just my opinion
I'm a goku fan but LN RIMURU FAMS CAN STAY MAD BC HE ONLY SOLOS Z AND SUPER
@@KellisGray😂 Did even Read the Light Novel Tensura up to Volume 21 He has better Surving Feats Than Goku Because This Slime was send to the end beyond Time and Space which is The end of Everything SDBH Manga Goku has no Such Feats Surving the end beyond Time and Space SDBH Goku is HyperVersal to Low Outerversal at Best
also plot is another reason he doesnt destroy the universe or all of existence in every fight
Goku fans cannot accept Goku got defeated
goku can always be defeated by the right opponent no ones mad when it happens 🤣
@@KinDeth-R6 95% of Goku fans still believe Goku is strongest anime
@@Veldenavasenseino they don’t! He’s not even the strongest in his story! Goku fans just don’t like people putting goku against other characters that has ridiculous hacks when goku is essentially just a over powered martial artist
@@brumtownmiller6130 rimuru is stronger than Goku
@@Veldenavasensei through magical hacks and blah blah. Just raw power tho, goku is ridiculously strong. Take away gokus ki he still super strong, his ki which he trained to get stronger is OP. He loses this battle but because of hacks and other powers.
Anime version rimuru is way way way weaker then goku but Novel rimuru clears his verse
i am a dragon ball fan
but this debate isnt even a competition, rimuru claps goku
It’s debatable cuz since goku has hax nullification if he’s stronger than someone,soul manipulation resistance, existence erasure resistance, and if you take the afterlife scale in the daizenshu than he should be low-mid outerversal. Since the afterlife transcends the concepts of space time. Larger than 6 infinite realms and will still not be filled even if you add the 6 infinite realms inside the afterlife. It’s harder to compare if you don’t use his feats.
@@needacharger3054 trancending concepts of time and space gives afterlife 5D so low complex multi, goku is massively weaker than rimuru so hax nullification doesn't work and goku never shown any kind of existance ereasure resistance
even if you wanna go by your outerversal afterlife scaling rimuru still outscales
@@GameOver_1548 physically stronger I mean
@@GameOver_1548 hakai is existence erasure
@@needacharger3054 yes but you said that Goku has existance ereasure resistance and even if Goku uses hakai on rimuru, he's to weak to affect him
And if you mean Goku surviving hakai from frieza in resurrection F then 1st point is that frieza's hakai was imperfect and 2nd point would be hax nullification that you mentioned yourself
also in battle of god the universal feat is wrong when two people hit fists barely any of the force gets transported out so if anything he is far above universal or multiversal for that matter in god and if its anime goku he has this absorbed in his base and then can use god to get this power again stacked multiversal times multiversal is like saying solar systems times solar systems the size is so big the ammount is un comprehensible but because this was when he couldnt full control his god power yet thats why he was threatenin the univer and why in every fight this doesnt happen and for villains it just natural ki control but all these explosions damage universal level fighters so the power still stands
Nahhh... Not the comment section flooded with DB downplayer ahhh goons🤡🤡🤓🤓
I’m a dragon ball fan before a slime fan, but between dbs manga goku getting waxed by black frieza, compared to light novel rimuru being capable of creating an infinite multiverse, or absorbing and collapsing that multiverse, manipulating, halting time, etc. rimuru is quite a bit higher than the Omni kings themselves.
@@plutoboy1564 you know nothing about DB cosmology stop your yapping about being a DB fan
@@RimuruURG you sound like a baby. Your favorite little universe gets waxed by one dude and you’re crying 😂
Lol those emojis are emojis representing your crying mood right kid?🤭
@@RimuruURG Mate doesn’t know what crying is. Crying is whining, crying is getting upset 😢. You’re clearly upset mate, relax a bit, make some friends and touch some grass. You can sit here and argue the overwhelming majority that are competent enough to read something that doesn’t have pictures 😂 god you’re slow. I’ll let you catch up to the rest of us and apologize in a few years mate 🪦
tbf rimuru would bait goku like millim at the start of the anime lol
Goku speed blitzes Rimuru in base and 1-punches him, end of story
LN Rimuru being few times faster than light? Wdym?
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@ahMeD2335.. tell me u haven't watch super without telling me bro ui sign in tournament of power was faster than light by 780.8 trillion times
@@KellisGraytell me u dont know rimurus abilities without telling me u dont know rimurus abilities 🤦🏿♂️
1. Physical attacks don't work on rimuru
2. Speedblitz? Goku doesn't even have immeasurable speed, goku at the bare minimum is infinite speed. Tell me how is goku going to Speedblitz a guy who can travel across Multiverses?
Rimuru just have abilities nothing else Goku will win
Fax anime goku slams anime and manga rimuru but he can't defeat light novel rimuru
what are you smoking 💀
Read the DBZ super manga and you will see the difference between the anime and the manga
@@Aven_Hour Ln rimuru still would beat manga goku
How will goku hurt anime rimuru!? anime rimuru has High-godly regeneration and High-godly resurrection, CM type 1(5 layers), EE, EE resistance, CE, CE resistance, regeneration negation, immortality(all types), immortality negation, and resurrection negation, Abstract existence type 1 and type 2, immeasurable attack speed via Beelzebub, fate manipulation, law manipulation, space-time manipulation, higher degree acausailty type 4, soul manipulation(6 layers) durability negation, resistance negation, non dual interaction, physics manipulation(6 layers) subjective reality(6 layers)and all types of element manipulation, reactive evolution, power nullification(6 layers), passive resistance negation(6 layers) power mimicry, power modification, invulnerability, incorporeality, statistic amplification and accelerated development, any magic or skill weaker than his ultimate skills will be automatically nullified, physical attack immunity mental attack immunity, natural effects nullification, abnormal condition nullification, multi-dimensional barriers, heat and cold nullification + resistances to ALL of his hax and abilities.
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cc goku wipes rimuru
These comments are full of delusional people lisen GOKU SOLOOSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!people always underestimate Goku
It is common because GOKU vers is old nowadays. Don't you think if GOKU still stays at the top, then what will happen to the manga writers?
So practically, they will write manga with more powerful characters than GOKU, won't they?
And we should accept this.
Real asf
Bro hasn't watched tensura neither red the manga lol probably a 8 yr old Goku fan😂😂😂😂😂 bro is living in a delusion
@@reenagupta6302 Get him past multiverse first🤡🤡🤡
Indeed this comment section is full of delusional people that think that Goku can beat Rimuru.
Rimuru wins extreme-diff simple end this noww
Goku is fodder but cc goku clapps rimuru both ways
Cc goku is boundless and ln rimuru is complex multiversal
Shut up goku solo, he is the king of anime 🗿💯 your rimuru is fodder here
Goku training for his power more of 40 years to become stronger and yet, your fodder rimuru where he get his power and abilities huh? A gift from the author ? don't compare this fodder again with goku
Goku > the fodders 💯@@royalcrewnepal5449
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Goku is thé king of all animes* understand
Goku soloooooooooo 🔥🗿
No need anos or vezdonoa rimuru destroy Goku/dbs/dbh verse
Thats hard cap kid gohan negs ln rimuru if you disagree debate me
Please tell me you were saying Goku's weakest forms can solo the strongest in ANIME tensura because if it was light novel tensura some of the c class characters could wipe the floor with Goku's weaker forms it would take super Saiyan 3 to beat the c class characters andit would take all of the verse canon and non canon all fused together to beat ln 5th true dragon Rimuru and then wn rimuru would take all the canon and non canon versions if every single character in dragon ball 10 times to win
exactly, using ln or wn version is just overkill. He was stating abilities from ln though, i doubt if he has actually read it
Glazing is wild here
@@supersaiyanbluegogeta6852 bro something tells me you're a dragon ball glazer
CC Goku wipes their universe 😂
With what feat that places him that high?I mean I would not really agree but I would understand saying cc beats rimuru depending on form but saying universe is out the picture because veldanava exists and cc goku has nothing that could come close to damaging him and still couldn't hurt rimuru even if he tried
@nagonto4456 i agree
Agreed
@@nagonto4456 cc goku is stated to be layers into bountless so he wins
@@tasakis7259 cc Goku can't even stand against veldenava cry more dbs fan 😭😭
Goku would instantly Turn into dust if he even try to Punch Rimuru
Rimuru solos the verse. There is actually very few that could survive in the anime world.
Jump force goku > soles rimuru
Bro this powerscaling is so ba either you do rimuru vs anos or rimuru vs omni king😅😅😮
kakumei goku is the strongest
Bro at this point Its not about experience, they are so strong that strong isnt even the right word... the fight wouldn't end or if it did, as sad as it is, rimuru is probably gonna win (dbz fan here)
Wait!, Rimuru has infinite skills and you know that right?, Spirit ball or any power is nothing for Rimuru, and Rimuru become God in the end of Manga, He have many Barrier such as Castle Guard, Multi barrier, Absolute Defense, plus he is A true Dragon, he have physical Attack nullification and pain Nullification, he has infinite skills he can alter skills, modified and copy skills... Your statement is base on physical strength only you don't even consider all of Rimuru's power and in terms of Speed Rimuru have thought acceleration 100 million times, plus suspended world
you dont understand scaling or cosmology, rimuru cant negate any hacks goku uses. cosmology >hax, also many people dont know how many busted hax goku has. goku neggs
Always goku the strongest bro 🗿
Goku isn't even strongest in his own anime so why do you think he is always Strongest 😂
@akhandtripathipyz9888 bro, What is the strongest world (only in animes)? In your opinion ? 😃
@@islemtaguenit5724 possibly Umineko
There is a woman called featherine who is a goddess and can write fate of the world as if writing a story
Btw if you want to watch Umineko, don't watch the anime and only read the manga
The manga is amazingly written but anime is butchered
even after watching this people gonna say rimuru wins ;-;
oh yeah and btw now that Goku mastered ui he can dodge anything bc ui isnt speed it is a move that separates the mind and the body making the body move without even knowing the next attack, you can see this happen with Whis (Dragon ball super Broly), when Gogeta used instant transmission (faster than speed itself) and Whis dodges it before Gogeta even arrives
So why do you think rimuru dosnt instantly obliterate goku
Rimuru create universes because it’s he’s power goku however creates galaxies to demonstrate his power they are not the same and he can by now can destroy his universe if he wants to
Just ignorant of rimuru powers
The only thing in Dragon Ball that can beat Rimuru is Zeno himself.
zeno get clapped
Lol rimuru SOLOES DBZ
Bro zeno is overkill kid gohan can beat rimuru fangays cant accept the truht
@@Justdokkanplayer read the ln oh you cant even read 5 years old kid
@@SCP_FAUNDATION123 read on otherword scans you can even read 3 years old kid
BRO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BRINGING A KNIFE IN A GUN FIGHT
KIRITO BECOME TOP PLAYER IN GUN GALE ONLINE WITH JUST A SWORD WHICH IS NOT EVEN MAGICAL
Rimuru one shots Goku and neg diffs Zeno. Here I saved you ten minutes
Goku defeated Majin buu who was very very similar to rimaru
I'm not a toxic dragonball fan hate that I have to even clarify that but if this was cc'goku, it would be different
bro what ae u on, cc goku is the definition of a god beyond god, with a punch of cc goku he can destroy hyper verses
This video is unbelivably biased.
Rimuru can litterly do etherything goku can just better and much much more not to mention how much Rimuru outscales and outhax goku + verse
Bro didnt even include goku infinite
When you comparing two powerful characters from different Univers you should take there strongest form then you'll understand the difference
💀💀 wut kind of joke is this?
The difference between them is a bit too unfair to even compare...Rimuru would quite literally wipe the entire DB verse out of existence. And yes, I'm taking into account every cannon form that Goku has.
Keep dreaming Goku one shot the fodder no diff, rimuru is weaker than goten 🤫🤏
@@islemtaguenit5724want debate?
If it is anime, rimuru goku wins but if it is ln rimuru goku is died
I think he making this video like this on porous 😂
Rimuru wins. End of debate.
Goku win couse goku break her limit that surpast the god and he got the line of the angle
Cant wait for goku drip vs rimiru
Rimuru is useless fodder known because of goatku😂😂😂😂
If goku has his hax negation due to physical power like he does in db than he will likely slam rimuru.