“Using Goku is overkill. There’s an enemy in earlier Dragon Ball, like Janemba, who can copy you, make you fight yourself, and even manipulate reality. If we use Black Janemba, who has the powers of both Xeno Goku and Vegeta, that’s it-game over. There’s nothing more you can do.”
@@Jayse-xu6rt no that doesn’t work bro in the cause if you take dragon Ball there is an enemy who can do that like buu or buuhan was going to destroy the entire universe by his power
@@Seven-y3k Goku wins automatically. Larger fan base=more glazers and r>f means his spirit bomb gon be so strong it just rips right through the screen and kills everyone including Rimuru glazers. No more Goku debates.
1st page XG&CC GOKU It was stated that if Xeno Goku power up from base he would destroy all off existence(as in all of history, space, time, the infinite timelines, the time chamber and even Beats’ world) which implied that just the act of transforming Xeno Goku transcend to higher dimensional scale and you could put Xeno Goku at higher. the transcend all of space and time statement as transcending the space time of all of the infinite histories, timelines, iterations, and dimensions with all the different flows, rules, pattern, and designs(this idea was already seen in Dragon Ball Super during the Moro and Granolah arcs as it was confirm that there are several rooms of Spirit and Time that exist on separate dimensions and have different flows of time when compare to the main universe). To transcend all of that is basically transcending the concept of space and time. XGG in short form is omnipotent and omniscient, and can also be considered as omnipresent, he has infinite stats on everything, his ssj2 and beyond threatens all non linear history itself, he also has hundreds of passive abilities which makes him indestructible, for example: Cosmology: Confirmed to be much larger than JF DB where JF Goku Destroyed Prometheus, who was gonna destroy all of shonen jump and was gonna fuse the REAL world with Anime, Prometheus also sees fiction as fiction and he's superior to Real Humans, and JF Goku beat him and XGG is in fact stronger, much stronger. Can use SSJ4 limit breaker which multiplies his power around to an infinite amount. -Sees Fiction as Fiction (R>F transcendence). -Wields the Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/powers/hax counters/ability counters instantly and/or steals them + passive warping over all concepts). -He can destroy infinite multiverses, infinite high 1-A structures and even more higher structures, infinite hierarchies of dimensions and timelines with infinite possibilities and events with his presence alone, including extra dimensional coordinates and infinite aleph 3 dimensions (high outer dimensions) in base form. Has strength theft/negation as well. -Unimaginable Battle Experience. Lived through all of DB franchise and exists way beyond that. -Instantaneous speed, instantaneous movement, infinite speed, immeasurable speed, irrelevant speed (Existed outside the flow of time comparable to Towa). ~Weakness: None Notable -Beings beyond the concepts of reality and creation itself are scared of Xeno Goku and he transcends them at base form with no difficulty). -Controls all dimensionality and is beyond dimensionality and can access over any dimensionality. -Transcends all knowledge in the real world, and all the real humans and the audiences/players who view Dragon Ball as fiction or a game. (Gazed into infinite possibilities of infinite timelines which is an omniscient feat.) -He can and has defeated characters who can passively alter the outcomes of situations, control infinite realities, dimensionalities and all fate itself, infinite creation, altering possibilities, gods that can create or destroy High 1-A structures and beyond and extra dimensional coordinates, all types of immortal gods and literal gods who literally have control over all of concepts with absolute no doubt or difficulty. -He can tank and has tanked all of creation being erased including the non linear history, space and time and dimensionality itself, stood point blank while creation getting destroyed. Zero observable damage. -Was a threat to a flow of time by just charging up as confirmed by the Kaioshin and was prohibited from from turning ssj as that might crumble entirety of reality. SSJ4 limitbreaker would rip apart truth itself. -Saved all non history by killing Demigra, Towa and Mira who were threatening to destroy the >> and were threatening to destroy high outer/boundless structures to infinite layers into boundless constructs and Xeno Goku in base form toyed with and killed them with a few punches in base. -Can selectively choose how to warp or alter or delete all reality, time, force, possibilities, chances, physics, maths, boundaries, laws, the presence of mind itself, can also delete all memories including counters to this hax making it inevitable. -He has almost every type of manipulation, transformation, deformation, purification, probability rewriting, reality warping, immunity negation, boundary manipulation, meta-miracle manipulation, meta-Disaster Manipulation and many more haxes. -Can manipulate anyone's very life, time, Boundary, matter, space and reality, conceptual, probability, immunity, immortality, means absolute nothing to him. He has the ability to create miracles (Meta-Miracle Manipulation) and destroy them (Meta-Disaster Manipulation). Tier: Infinite layers into Baseline Boundless (BASE state) and can reach further beyond that. Thru manga/anime/arcade version of heroes characters especially xeno goku
Early DBZ: {{{ In Freezer saga Frieza 2nd form stated that he had enough power to destroy the visiable universe(not the whole universe) which can be made out high-multi galaxy in his second form so goku in his ssj form( who embarrassed frieza) should be at least low-universal in the namek saga. In Cell saga Cell ssj2( he has the same aura as gohan after regenerating) as enough power to scale him towards mid-universal but doesn't have any feats beyond data book scaling. In Majin Buu saga Super Buu was going to destroy the whole universe and even vegito and databooks confirm that Super Buu's techniques was enough to destroy the whole universe(universe 7). Then when kid buu showed up and found Goku and Vegeta in the grand Supremekaioshin world the supreme kais were afraid he could destroy their world and this can take an infinite amount of energy as this kai world is 1/10 of the macroscom. In Dragon Ball Fusion Reborn Goku, Pikkon and Vegeta have infinite speed able to travel from other world to hell( further reiterated in the metal cooler movie), Goku transforming had enough energy to shake Hell,The Otherworld, and Heaven which requires an infinite amount of energy and power( goku had more energy due to being dead). GOGETA'S ssj energy and power amd lit up Hell, The Otherworld and possibly Heaven which in itself can argue the SSJ GOGETA has Infinite power. In Dragon Ball GT goku even states himself that General Rildo was more powerful than majin buu, Who threatened to destroy the universe and Supremekaioshin World. And PAN DEFEATED HIM BY HERSELF💀. And BASE GOKU IS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN PAN. Goku than fights some other small villians who make him stronger. Then he fights SSJ3 Baby with SSJ3 and loses than Transforms into SSJ4 which is a 1 billion times multipler from base( ssj3 is a 400 times multipler and and golden ozaro is a 500 times multipler and 500x400x Baby's power boost + Crazy DB scaling means goku would need 1 billion times more power to defeat him.) Then he one-shot Super 17 in base( The Super 17 who made 4 SSJs look fodder). Nouva Shenron was also stated by goku ( at that time to be the strongest opponent he'd ever faced) goku one-shot his Fellow Dragon ( Ice shenron)( who are both relative in power) in Ssj4. Then Goku( Ultra Full Power Ssj4) humiliated Syn (The Strongest Shadow Dragon). Immediately when OMEGA Shenron appeared the whole universe( including Hell,The Otherworld and Heaven and the Supremekaioshin World)(Basically the Living World which is infinite in size)started collapsing on itself by OMEGA SHENRON JUST EXISTING. And Goku( with help obviously) one-shot Omega Shenron who was going to destroy Everything( maybe the whole timeline). }}} Xeno Goku EXPERIENCED all this( and more just didn't mention it)when got a Whole lot Stronger. And is as strong as Ssj Blue CC Goku who is stronger than MUI from the T.O.P who shook an infinite realm by just existing. And is relative to Dark Janemba who threatened to disrubt the whole cosmos in The Anime. So adding on to his feats his feats in SDBH AND XENOVERSE AND SDBH the Game he would scale way above high outerversal and would be impossible to scale. After Watching The Anime and Reading The Manga And Databooks[( in his Strongest Form(Ssj4LB)] Strength: Immeasurable Speed: Irrelevant Energy: Immeasurable Power: Immeasurable Scaling: Immeasurable( beyond infinity) In we know xeno goku n more of cc goku did all this n xeno goku been thru all of og all of Z end of z all of movies plus gt n bog since it’s a Z movie n starting being a time patrol
Abilities~ •Energy absorption •Power absorption (passive) •Deleting stamina (passive) •Power nullification (passive) •Acausality (passive) •Afterimage Creation (passive) •Non-Physical Interaction (passive) •Purification (presence of mind and soul) (passive) •Paralysis (passive) •Dimension creation/destruction over all concepts of dimensionality, and is also beyond dimensionality where he has supreme control over everyone even beyond dimensionality. (Passive) •Resistance to existence erasure and concept erasure. (Passive) •Extreme health regeneration and injury regeneration granting invincibility with passive counter-ability which makes his invincibility not deletable and has immense level of immortality (same counter-ability as regeneration)(Passive) •All types of negation (passive) •Omnipotence (infinite strength and infinite stats, also transcends over all beings and their powers). (Passive) •Fusion (potaras and fusion dance) •Transformations (exponentially increases infinite stats by infinite multipliers) •Sense of everything (passive) •Reality Alteration (passive) •Plot Hole Creation (passive) •Time manipulation and alteration (passive) •Invulnerability (passive) •Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time (passive) •Infinite Endurance (passive) •Infinite Mana (passive) •Infinite Ki (passive) •Infinite Force (passive) •Infinite speed (passive) •Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) (passive) •Miracle Creation •Concept Manipulation/Control •Weapon Creation (passive) •Plot manipulation immunity (passive) •Attack Reflection (passive) •Immortality (passive) •Dualism (passive) •Causality (passive) •Possibility changing abilities and fate changing abilities, can even change the total narration) (can be selectively passive) •Multiple Dimensional Travel (passive) •Empathetic manipulation (passive) •Matter manipulation (passive) •Age manipulation (passive) •Corrosion Inducement (passive) •Soul manipulation (passive) •Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/ Powers permanently)
Abilities~ •Energy absorption •Power absorption (passive) •Deleting stamina (passive) •Power nullification (passive) •Acausality (passive) •Afterimage Creation (passive) •Non-Physical Interaction (passive) •Purification (presence of mind and soul) (passive) •Paralysis (passive) •Dimension creation/destruction over all concepts of dimensionality, and is also beyond dimensionality where he has supreme control over everyone even beyond dimensionality. (Passive) •Resistance to existence erasure and concept erasure. (Passive) •Extreme health regeneration and injury regeneration granting invincibility with passive counter-ability which makes his invincibility not deletable and has immense level of immortality (same counter-ability as regeneration)(Passive) •All types of negation (passive) •Omnipotence (infinite strength and infinite stats, also transcends over all beings and their powers). (Passive) •Fusion (potaras and fusion dance) •Transformations (exponentially increases infinite stats by infinite multipliers) •Sense of everything (passive) •Reality Alteration (passive) •Plot Hole Creation (passive) •Time manipulation and alteration (passive) •Invulnerability (passive) •Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time (passive) •Infinite Endurance (passive) •Infinite Mana (passive) •Infinite Ki (passive) •Infinite Force (passive) •Infinite speed (passive) •Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) (passive) •Miracle Creation •Concept Manipulation/Control •Weapon Creation (passive) •Plot manipulation immunity (passive) •Attack Reflection (passive) •Immortality (passive) •Dualism (passive) •Causality (passive) •Possibility changing abilities and fate changing abilities, can even change the total narration) (can be selectively passive) •Multiple Dimensional Travel (passive) •Empathetic manipulation (passive) •Matter manipulation (passive) •Age manipulation (passive) •Corrosion Inducement (passive) •Soul manipulation (passive) •Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/ Powers permanently)
Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority} * Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.} * Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) -Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) -Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) -Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) -Power Absorption (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming Attack and power) -Power Redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) -Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) -Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) -Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) -Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) -Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) -Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) -Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) -Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) -Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) -Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) -Regeneration and Immortality Negation(negate Mechikabura’s regeneration which is stated to be limitless and immortality) -Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an undetermined amount of time with the same abilities as Xeno Goku) Exhale+panting There are more but you get the gist of it
Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority} * Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.} * Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) -Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) -Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) -Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) -Power Absorption (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming Attack and power) -Power Redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) -Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) -Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) -Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) -Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) -Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) -Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) -Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) -Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) -Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) -Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) -Regeneration and Immortality Negation(negate Mechikabura’s regeneration which is stated to be limitless and immortality) -Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an undetermined amount of time with the same abilities as Xeno Goku) Exhale+panting There are more but you get the gist of it
CC/ Xeno Goku negs LN Rimuru. They transcend dimensions, can erase all of time and space by powering up, can destroy infinitely higher realms that view theirs as fiction, they have no limits, their weakest victims can destroy, control, restart, all of existence. One of them has control over fate, so he could not lose because he was the master of time/ fate, and that was all well and good until he met Base Goku who one shot him. Xeno/ CC Goku is boundless.
Bro rimuru is a digital Lifeform a being existence outside the space and time which gives him BDE TYPE 1 no dragon ball character can interact with him also most of the xeno Goku abilities work in group and this is 1 vs 1 also key sword needs to be awakened first in order to use it full potential which requires times and rimuru also have fate, casualty, space time manipulation and many more everything works on a information type 2. Also zeno Goku is only low complex the real world in game is meta fiction which scale to 6-7D.
Alright, first, you played Xeno Goku dirty, you did not mention half of his hax, secondly: Beats world is basically our own world, that means that Beats other than Db can view the SAME EXACT FICTIONS as we do, that means Rimuru...anime, manga, light novel or whatever is mere fiction in Beats eyes. Demigra at full power trascended the reality tier and actually stepped into our world, where he had NO POWERS, but Xeno Goku could still use some of his, even if LIMITED. Point of this is: Xeno Goku (Game DBH storyline) UTTERLY NEGS Rimuru in all of his forms. If you're still unsure about it: Dbh views all other anime/fictional verses as timelines as shown in the One Piece crossover, Chronoa literally held the DBH plane of existence from collpasing, Xeno Goku in base is stronger than her by a LOT. Just cuz you people don't even bother to research Xeno Goku as you should before doing these...videos...does not mean the other things you forgot to mention or search for does not exist.
@@geekerjay no he ain't, if he got to trascend the DBH verse, and pop up into the real world (ours), that means he trascends dimensionality. I've just sent a link to an answer on quora which downplay him too, then there is the first comment that literally scalea him to outerversal in base.
Rimaru also transcends fiction and in his world dragon ball is also just fiction as Valdora used the Kamehameha with he learned from reading Dragonball and you say people don't bother to do research on Xeno Goku when You don't even try to do research on Rimaru do you know how Hypocritical that sounds try actual understanding your own words and the character your talking about before you try to make a conclusion in a debate
Xeno Goku destroys, Xeno Goku is an omniscient being that can precieve different realities and knows that he exists within fiction, he defeated demigra who he himself had the power to destroy all of history, with the cosmology scaling to outer since the afterlife is dimensionally transcendental and also described as a super-dimensional realm, and Zeno palace exists at a higher plane of existence and Zeno views the multiverse as chest pieces. Not only that but Demigra was also going to destroy the Real world which views DBH world as fiction, and Fuu being able to exist within the Charisma world which is beyond the real world, making all this high outer therfore scaling Xeno Goku to high outer. Also Xeno goki got broken hax, Fate manipulation, Probability manipulation, life-force absorbsion, Time manipulation, Existence erasure, Reality manipulation, Conceptual manipulation, Power negation and Immortality negation, Stamina manipulation and boundary manipulation, also has resistance to existence erasure, plot manipulation, time manipulation, and law manipulation.
You forgot some things. Such as. (LIGHT NOVEL) 1. Rimuru is immune to being deleted in one shot, and their soul and body being destroyed at all (Hakai wont work) 2. Rimuru has hundreds of 99% heal potions 3. Hes immune to temperature (fire, ice, lava, etc), poison, intoxication, stabbing, slashing, pain, electricity, and much more 4. Demon Lord presence one shots half of DBZ (hyperbole) 5. The god of the void creates / destroys MULTIVERSES at will, and can break millions (hyperbole) of universes at once 6. Due to the fact he creates existing manga in the show (DBZ, and Street Fighter) this shows that he transended theough fiction into a possible different multiverse in reality. 7. Adaptation goes crazy
@@Shadow_YT_YT haha nah it was something I can read, rimuru is op is just people aren't moving on and are stuck on Goku being the strongest when there are characters appearing that can destroy the verse with a finger
"Rimuru with his regeneative abilities and Absorbing will beat Goku" Janemba: 💀 Kid Buu: 💀 Android 19 n 20: ☠️ Perfect Cell: 😭 Infinte Zamasu: 🫠 n etc....
@@Seven-y3kMoon Destroy - Power Lev 136 { Anime Goku Base Form Power Lev = 100 Trillion - Manga Base Form Power Lev = 210 Trillion } SS3 POWER LEV = 40 Quadrillion TOP - SSG Power Lev = 5 Quintillion DBSH - SSG Power Lev = 10 Quintillion 🥲 SSB Kaio-ken Power Lev = 5 Sextillion { 120 Billion x Base Form Mui Goku Power Lev = 12.6 Septillion } Tui Goku Power Lev = 43,75 Septillion ♾️ Overkill 💀⚰️
There’s a common misconception about the different versions of Goku in the Dragon Ball series. Some fans refer to “CC Goku” (presumably short for Capsule Corp Goku), but this is just a fan-made term. In reality, there’s only one Goku across the different storylines and continuities. Whether he’s from Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, or any other related media, it’s all the same Goku. Let me explain further. In Dragon Ball Online, the story takes place in an era far beyond the current age of Dragon Ball, but they still travel back to the current age. This is significant because, in the Buu Saga of Dragon Ball Z Universe, Goku and the avatar you control manage to defeat Mira. Toa then collects Mira, who is in a weakened state, as a cell. This same Toa, who was part of the main continuity in Dragon Ball Z Universe, appears again in Dragon Ball Z Kakarot, where she is seen gathering energy to restore Mira from that same cell state. This connection shows that the events in Dragon Ball Z Universe and Dragon Ball Z Kakarot are canon to each other, and by extension, make Dragon Ball Z Universe canon to the main continuity. Since it’s already established that Dragon Ball Z Kakarot itself is canon, it’s clear that these games are closely linked within the same timeline. It’s not uncommon for Dragon Ball games to share the same timeline, as seen with Dragon Ball Breakers and Dragon Ball Heroes. So, this basically means that the Goku in Dragon Ball Z Kakarot is the same Goku from Dragon Ball Z Universe and, by extension, the same Goku from Dragon Ball Super. They are all the exact same person, just seen in different scenarios or storylines. Want even more evidence that Dragon Ball Z Universe is canon? Consider the fact that Toyotarou, the artist who works closely with Akira Toriyama, draws the Dragon Ball Z Universe manga. Both Toyotarou and Toriyama are credited as authors of the manga, with Toriyama even stating on the cover that Toyotarou has taken up the mantle of drawing Dragon Ball. Toyotarou brings the Dragon Ball Universe to life based on the basic story and ideas provided by Toriyama. If Dragon Ball Z Universe wasn’t canon, this connection and acknowledgment wouldn’t be there. Some might argue, “But that’s the manga, not the game!” Well, unfortunately for them, the consistency and continuity across different media forms-whether it’s manga, anime, or games-further reinforce that Goku is the same character in all these stories, and Dragon Ball Z Universe holds a place in the overall canon.
@@XandusKee remember the Z fighter forget about you when you do the mission they forget about you and don’t remember you but Goku somehow know you are remember you and treat you like a friend
Rimuru could literally make a carbon copy of Xeno Goku and make them fight themselves eternally, while he stays unaffected. Bro recreated a lot of mangas in his universe and Veldora even used some of said abilities like the Kamehameha and Hadouken in the anime, dude literally transcended fiction and used their own abilities... and that was the ANIME Rimuru.
People here really be saying "Xeno Goku wipes" without even knowing a fraction of what Novel Rimuru can do LMAO Doesnt the novel has a statement where Rimuru stored enough energy in his pocket dimension to recrete the universe 1000 times? And that wasnt even Rimuru at the end of the novel LOL
@@Seven-y3k I understand, but before you made this video you should have checked out other dragon ball related material such as guides, novels, movie comics, games as well as dragon ball heroes and XenoVerse, among others, since all this would help with the scaling and haxs of xeno Goku, even if it took a while for the video to come out, it would be much more complete.
Demogra was about to destroy every timeline, complete omniverse and every parralel timeline future and past. Xeno goku defeated him while super saiyan (1 or 3 not sure) This scranny character has no shot
If you guys think that Rimuru has infinite respawns and can defeat Goku you're wrong. Remember what happened to Majin buu on DBZ? No matter how many times Majin buu got defeated he always respawned healthy. However at last he spawned a Spirit Bomb drawing the energy of people on earth. And that spirit bomb proved too strong even for the indestructible Majin buu. But at last he died. If Xeno Goku learns Or Goku uses the spirit bomb on Rimuru it's over. He just needs the power to push the bomb and it's done
Goku in both DBS and Heroes is just far to strong and fast. Even if Rimiru can regenerate from a basic attack or two splattering him, Goku just pulls out Hakai, Mafuba or keysword and erases/seals him before he can process what's happening. Also Goku can destroy things at an atomic level and hurt even spirits and non corporeal being, so unless Rimiru can survive his body being destroyed down to an atomic level, and his spirit being blown away even regular attacks are enough.
@@Seven-y3kInteresting, might survive regular attacks then if he can come back from body and soul erase. That's pretty good regen actually. But I don't see him getting around Hakai, that can erase not just body and soul, but it can erase people from all histories according to Beerus, and even characters that can just regenerate from being erased from the story and narrative like Dr.Mashiroto from Doctor Slump can't regenerate from Hakai. Not many characters can come back from multiple layers of body, soul, history and narrative erasure.
@@Seven-y3kI'm still skeptical Rimiru can come back from Hakai tbh. It can stop regen from body and soul across all timelines, and even nulls regen from narrative erasure on Mashuroto, which is usually considered a similar or higher level to conceptual given the very idea of a character is part of the narrative.
Honestly, it's one of those fruitless arguments where one story is clearly about creating the most overpowered character(s) ever while the other has the reputation for being such a story, when really its just a matter of catering a sad, aging fanbase that won't accept power scaling to go backward after the stakes kept rising at a ridiculous rate (perhaps this goes for both). Just wondering when the day will come where DBZ fans....and fans of [Insert OP character from story about being OP] stop gathering around to see who has the lowest IQ
Moon Destroy - Power Lev 136 { Anime Goku Base Form Power Lev = 100 Trillion - Manga Base Form Power Lev = 210 Trillion } SS3 POWER LEV = 40 Quadrillion TOP - SSG Power Lev = 5 Quintillion DBSH - SSG Power Lev = 10 Quintillion 🥲 SSB Kaio-ken Power Lev = 5 Sextillion { 120 Billion x Base Form Mui Goku Power Lev = 12.6 Septillion } Tui Goku Power Lev = 43,75 Septillion ♾️ Overkill 💀⚰️
@@AjayMachhi-uu5ry Ur assuming his scaling based on assumed numbers. And since the universe is a infinite space, you can go to power level infinity and still only be universal
@@gameboi1943Gaymuru And Anos Is Overrated Fodder Nothing more than That - His fans only like to spread lies - Gaymuru He Can't destroy 10k universes even in his dreams. Leave the 10k universes. He has not even created or destroyed a single universe in LN - And I came to know this while debating with Gaymuru's fan - and I have also seen Gaymuru's LN
@@Seven-y3k Super easy, let's see,In universe 7 there is a super space, which in the context of quantum mechanics is High hyperversal,DB follows that, as it is Canonically at least a type 3 multiverse, stated on official sites,The type 3 multiverse also reaches High Hyperversal via Hilbert space,So it is Consistent that Universe 7 is High Hyperversal, either by Super Space or the Type 3 Multiverse,Moving further into Cosmology, universe 7 also contains things like super dimensional structures,That are things beyond dimensionality itself,And considering that we have already established that Universe 7 is at least High hyperversal+ by two different methods,The only thing that super dimensional structures can be is outerversal,And BoG Goku>>Universe 7 and so on, there is a very simple meta of Goku Outerversal . The scale is also consistent with other statements, such as guides that say that Goku vs Beerus' power and fight is super dimensional,Just like the Chouzenchu that says that the power of the Gods of destruction transcends dimensionality itself, etc. This is a pretty lowball-midball scale for universe 7, no version of Rimuru unless you're really generous reaches anything close to this,Let's leave out the Xeno Goku scale
The only difference between anime Rimuru and WN Rimuru. Is story progression. Anime Rimuru just has caught up to the point in the story where WN Rimuru is at. A Lot of people sleep on Rimuru. Especially since the don't really know much about him. I'm a dragonball fan and I can honestly admit that Rimuru would cook any form or version of Goku. Rimuru would would beat Goku out in term of energy, intelligence, and adaptability. To be absolutely honest even for an isekai character, Rimuru is absolutely broken. Plus the very nature of Rimuru and Buu's adsorption abilities are vastly different. Rimuru actually has the better version of said ability.
You guys Forgot something Very Important Dragon Ball in Tensura are just a Fiction created back on Japan in short its Just an Anime inside An anime hahahaha. Either way Rimuru would slam Goku No matter what form or which version of Goku he's facing. If you can't Accept that Rimuru is Stronger than Goku, that only means that You're Sugar coating Goku and Over Rating him. Also I know people will reply on this Debunking my Statement so have fun Being a Fan Boi for your Over Rated Character named Goku.
for all those goku tards out there, this is a more detail proof why rimuru scale higher and win so lets scale the dragon cosmology macrocosm, main part afterlife, 4d structure with 3 temporal and time axis, space axis was never stated in context in any data book, people think that time = space, so its 5d but no, according to researcher, space time is necessary for both to coexist but they are no the same concept, and afterlife is dimensionality transcendence over the living world instead of the cosmology kaioshin realm is above all that so its 5d cc goku > xeno goku, which can threaten the infinite timelines, so 6d/hyperversal, cc is around the same, hyperversal scaling rimuru: nihility collapse/turn null/imaginary collapse can destroy infinite multiverse in tensura, each multiverse contains infinite universes and each universe has it's own infinite universe, making it an infinite hierarchy of universes, a universe contains infinite worlds/dimensions, each one holding infinite realities and possibilities, and each reality is beyond concepts including space time, a world also has infinite parallel dimensions, and a higher dimensional world like the astral world is infinitely higher than a lower dimensional world, transcending all concepts of the lower dimensional world, being a higher dimension and a universe transcend all worlds, same goes to the multiverse transcending infinite hierarchy of universes world = outer universe = high outer multiverse = infinite layers into high outer rimuru = boundless baseline to add on, rimuru also surpass the great spirit which is an true platonic being (means a perfect being that even surpass the cosmology itself), the great spirit was responsible to create the tensura, which mean its also another proof to be beyond the cosmology scaling = infinite layers into high outer - boundless veldavana created all spirits (including the great spirit) which mean he is the literal god of the tensura, above all plane of existence and the nothingness, which mean he is also above the great spirit rimuru is arguably stronger than veldavana since veldavana is limited on the uses of nihility collapse but rimuru's not rimuru baseline layers into boundless
Goku can't live the outer space. Rimuru could eat the super dragon ball then replicate that for his own. Goku is still a classic character who follows the law of physics. Even Saitama could stomp him.
Wow. Amount of Goku fans dickriding him is overwhelming. Goku can't even interact with Rimuru without information manipulation type 2, let alone defeat him. That funny key that removes abilities? What a pity Ciel have all of Rimuru's hax as a backup and after being hit by it once Rimuru will get immunity to it. After evolving into manas Ciel is no longer Rimuru's ability, but being attached to his soul so key sword won't cut off their connection.
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😂, every version is Rimaru gets dog walked by BASE dbs Goku Let's see you didn't say anything about how Xeno Goku is immune to hax and magic 😭 Why? Didn't wanna admit Goku negs? Dbs Goku has beaten beings with infinite regen it's literally nothing new in db, Buu infinite regen Also blatantly you ignored everything in power scaling which is higher dimensional beings ignore hax of lower dimensions and anime rimaru ain't past solar system lvl with LN and WN capping at low complex at their best 😂 And base dbs Goku is complex multi at a low ball 😂with ssg being an infinite multiplier and can mathematical be proven and Xeno Goku being way higher as he destroys concepts 💀in base
Rimuru and Goku fans casually spitting bullshit that either, are fucking made up, not canon to the character, or massively overwanked for no reason. Why can't they just analyze and understand simple shit? Even if it looks/sounds complex, the better you look at it, the more you understand of the actual stuff
hey guys so I got 2 things to tell you the first is that li and magic both are different if you are a real db fan you should know and the second is goku eradicated majin buu who has the best regeneration in whole anime verse and he got destroyed by a spirit bomb and now goku is even stronger
@@Seven-y3k Key sword works. Reaching real world actually makes him transcend dimensionality so first do research then speak. 😂😂😂 your video is a cap . Boo-boo boo boo .
Goku scales above the Macrocosm. The Macrocosm contains 2 5D Constructs such as the Afterlife that transcends the Mortal Universe that contains infinite galaxies and hyperspaces which is above Infinite 3D and 4D. Afterlife is also beyond time and space which further proves its 5D. It is also stated as Infinite aswell making it infinite 5D or Infinite 4D if you dislike 5D. The Kaioshin Realm is 1/10 of the inside of the macrocosm which includes the Afterlife making it 1/10 of Infinite 5D. To contain more than 1 infinite 5D structures, the construct would have to be beyond these structures having the Entire Macrocosm at 6D. Making Goku atleast 6D in Power or Low Complex Multiversal. Now for the World of Void. It is said to be outside and beyond the multiverse which is 12 Macrocosms in an infinite space called the Neutral Zone. Again it can only contain multiple 6D Structures making it either infinite 6D or 7D. Very possibly Infinite 7D. Making UIO Goku and anyone who scales to this level above that. Now for the timeline argument. The timeline contains everything to an infinite degree. This includes Zenos Palace that perceive the Neutral Zone as a mere chess game. Making Zenos Palace beyond 6D atleast to possibly 8D. The timeline contains all of this but infinitely as it contains time from beginning to end which is infinite. This Makes 1 Timeline atleast Infinite 8D to possibly 9D. Now Fused Zamasu fuses with the timeline and actually starts expanding into other timelines. Including the one where the main DBS story takes place. This proves Fused Zamasu is at least 9D and any character, including SSJB Goku to scale above it. Now I forgot the Super Dimensions as it came out a few weeks ago and I'm not used to talking about it, it would only allow atleast 1 dimensional tier higher because it said it was a higher dimension. It was also said to be several higher dimensions which could be taken as atleast 2 dimensional tiers higher but we will only use 1. Since Goku can fight in realms beyond time and fight beings whose power and speed surpass time like Jiren, he would have Immeasurable Speed. So using Macrocosm Scaling Goku is 7D in power which is Complex Multiversal, Using World of Void Scaling Goku is Infinite 7D-Infinite 8D which is still Complex Multiversal and finally using Timeline Scaling Goku is 9D-10D which is High Complex Multiversal. Goku has immeasurable speed in all of them regardless since its beyond time and space levels of speed. Now i know people hate Goku being above Universal and all but fuck yall. He could be scaled much higher, higher than I think is reasonable lmao. Basically i dunno about Outerversal yet.
I'm not hating or anything. This video genuinely seems like it was AI . Not to mention the obvious lack of research because you didn't scale both characters correctly because you'd need about 10 minutes to go over just half of rimurus abilities and the same goes for Xeno. But anyways uhhhhh great vid ig 🧍♂️.
@@Brokenleg-o8r hahaha I like ur comment gang, but nah the video ain't ai but the voice, and I did do research, I said in the vid anime rimuru is stronger then DBS anime Goku but not Xeno Goku, as I don't need to explain that much of Xeno Goku, but in the end I said if it's LN rimuru vs Xeno Goku is a different story as I didn't know who would win when both characters are strong, so I let u guys decide
Rimuru has No limitation in Reality Warping if you can't encounter it He is like Zamasu but can adapt to Any Situation Also he can create Any skill by himself for Any Situation nearly Impossible to beat if Equal Cosmology Goku about Raw strength and Technique. Xeno Goku Able to Beat up Rimuru If his Cosmology Higher if not bro is dead
uh you forgot to add that basic magic in tensura is type 1 conceptual manipulation which no character in all of DBH possesses. So like you could even argue that a NORMAL mage in tensura could theoretically annihilate Xeno goku
Rimuru, if they ever fought, would already know every technique in ANIME Goku's arsenal. Veldora already has Dragon Ball manga that Rimuru created from his memories, so all he needs is his name and Manas Ciel would give him something to counter him. Same with Zeno Goku, but Rimuru would have a harder time because of his ability to slow time, which Rimuru can't effectively negate, and he would have different powers. Rimuru would have to let Manas Ciel take control and fight Zeno Goku beyond time space in order to get close, because Rimuru, even with his quicker thinking speed, is slower than Manas Ciel, who could gift his allies new abilities to suit their enemies within a second while fighting an enemy. I'm not going to give an answer to who would win, but LN Rimuru vs Zeno Goku I would pay to watch.
I just started watching REINCARNATED AS A SLIME and im only on episode 15 but He is Basically just a WEAK COPY-CAT of MAJIN-BUU Because MAJIN-BUU ALSO GET STRONGERS THROUGH ABSORBING PEOPLE AND HAS INFINITE-REGENERATION Nothing Goku Cant Handle
Dude, one question, did you read the novel or see tensei shitara slime? Rimuru dont use predator to absorb every enemy he fights, great sage only give him an automatic battle option and more than a time Rimuru would lost to enemies with more power than him even if that enemies dont have half of his abilities. And he cant analyse and copy another characters powers unless he uses predator on them, with the diference of power theres no hax that would save him if you follow the logic of his own anime.
Even web novel rimuru can't xeno goku, you didn't properly scale all of xeno gokus feats and scaling. Also that scene where if he went ssj4 ,he would cause the destruction of the multiverse,thats a hyperversal level of power
@@uzookafor8721 nah dude I was calling rimuru the anime version, and said anime rimuru gets clapped by Xeno Goku but I said at the end the LN rimuru is a different story, I meant like u guys decide who wins between LN rimuru And Xeno Goku, cause to me both of them are broken
Sorry dude I can't, with my current phone as it lags and lets me make one character videos, if I try to make a lot of edits explaining their feats and using videos and images it won't even let me export my videos
At least we people who actually knows something about rimuru and just to let them If someone else is able to devour an entire universe and recreate means there basically a God and heads up no in dragon ball is countering LN rimuru
Rimuru does not have immunity, he is only highly resistant to stuff. In the anime and shit it's been listed as resistances and sometimes nullification. But nullification isn't 100% immunity, plus it doesn't even matter. Sure you could say as a digital life form he can't be touched, but Goku can box dead people and shit, the afterlife in DB is transcendent to the living world meaning it is either higher dimensional, or transcends dimensionality. This would mean Goku can in fact touch Rimuru and his resistances would not work because Goku is not weak like certain characters. Ki is complicated but usually just considered life energy, and he doesn't exactly have a specific resistance for that, you could say it counts as holy or spiritual or natural elements, but it does not matter. God ki is not normal ki, it cannot be sensed by normal people meaning Rimuru wouldn't have an exact way to measure Goku's strength should he go God or higher. God ki has been shown to do some crazy stuff, it can provide an atmosphere allowing Goku to breathe in space and implied to just be superior giving a power boost and other shit. Goku is easily MFTL+ or higher depending on how you wanna do things. Rimuru on the other hand in terms of combat speed, travel speed and everything else isn't even light speed, this is not factoring in suspended world but even with suspended world it doesn't change his speed, it just fucks up the formula making it immeasurable because the formula is not applicable. Rimuru's Beelzebub has been stated to be able to consume the world, the power of nihility is able to recreate the world when combined with imaginary space. This makes him at least multiversal. Goku can destroy the 7th universe in God form at the start of super, later he absorbs that level of power into base and grows stronger and shit. This makes him at minimum universal, but 7th universe isn't our universe, it's got countless number of dimensions like the hyperbolic time chamber where time doesn't flow with the living world and shit. Places like the hell transcending the universe and so on. This makes the feat of being able to destroy the 7th universe as high as multiversal at minimum, and because he got far stronger, he can presumably do that in god form on his own. Jiren in guidebooks and stuff is stated to be above time and therefore abilities like time skip would not work. Since MUI in anime is able to contend with Jiren, that makes him relative to him meaning he transcends time, and destroying stuff like the afterlife and more makes him above dimensionality meaning he transcends space and time, unlike Rimuru who merely commands it. Rimuru's haxes doesn't do much aside from potentially suspended world if he can activate it in time before Goku just fucking one shots him.
Anime Goku ain't touching LN rimuru no matter what ya say bro, only cc Goku and Xeno Goku can hang with him not anime Goku, anime Goku ain't even close
@@Seven-y3k Bro, did you not read nothing? The speed scaling in the two verses are very different, Goku being way above light speed whereas all the Tensuras are getting capped around light speed. The fastest attacks like Velgrynd's shit was only stated to be near light speed, and near light speed attacks are stated to be incredibly fast. Suspended world is stopped time so it does not give you faster speed it just makes your speed immeasurable which isn't exactly a precise speed either. Rimuru does not have any immunity but only high resistance which is essentially just being super durable so Goku can in fact hurt him if he's strong enough. Jiren in guidebook is said to surpass time and that's why Hit isn't able to affect him, MUI rivaling him means his speed is also relative, and F=MA so his punches would be extremely powerful. MUI is essentially Ciel except the more proficient you are in UI the more fast you can respond. Think of it like how Great Sage evolves into Raphael and then Ciel. Buu can scream through dimensions, Goku being much stronger than Z Buu can easily escape Imaginary Space. Sure Rimuru can accelerate his mind millions of times faster than the speed of light, but to be able to traverse an infinite sized universe stated in guidebooks automatically makes your speed infinite, and infinity is much larger than a couple million MPH. It is not even close until you bring up Cosmic Rimuru which is just a joke character.
you low-bulled Xeno goku hax Xeno goku was able to fight against demon god demigra who is well demon king as rimuru and above even he was gonna to destroy DB histories which are was infinite timelines including infinite Space-time and multiverses xeno goku hax ( from Xenoverse game and manga ) Absorption ( like rimuru ) Power nullification Acausality Afterimage Creation Non-Physical Interaction Purification Paralysis Dimension creation where he has supreme control Resistance to Existence and Erasure Regeneration and immortality Negation Fusion Transformations countless battle skills Sense Reality Alteration Plot Hole Creation Time manipulation and alteration Invulnerability Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time Infinite Endurance Infinite Mana Infinite Ki Infinite Force Infinite speed Immunity negation (Negates opponent Plot manipulation immunities) Miracle Creation Concept Manipulation/Control Weapon Creation Plot manipulation immunity Attack Reflection Immortality Low-tier realiy warping Dualism Causality Possibility Dimensional Travel Empathetic manipulation Matter manipulation Age manipulation Corrosion Inducement Soul manipulation Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/Powers permanently) and one more thing Webnovel rimuru is fanmade isnt cannon xenoverse is from toei animation rimuru was able to trancends space-time destroy 10k 3D universes have some broken hax and abilites but thats isnt enough to beat Xeno goku
rimuru is one of the most formidable? only one of the most formidable? one of anime Rimuru ultimate skills, Beelzebuth, allows him to eat ANYTHING. instantly. ignoring space and time. there is no escape to Beelzebuth
Just scale them rimuru can affect infinite space time but even base super goku is above the concepts of space and time daishensu 4 cho jigen meaning above the concept of dimensionality hell low outer heaven outer kaioh shin planet high outer uni 7 bubble 1 oayer into high outer rimuru ln conplex multi😂😂
Xeno goku is not even outerversal Because according to the new tierning system your virus must have Platonic concepts in order to become high outerversal You have to go beyond Platonic concepts and also influence the real void like Rimuru did so Rimuru is high outerversal In the new tierning system
Lots of goku tards here, Rimuru is outerversal in the LN. Theres nothing that can kill him, he has immortality 1-9 types, immortality negation, plot manipulation, possibility manipulation, information manipulation, and more. Tensura verse is Hyper to Outer with time axis scaling. Labyrinth has 99+ floors with each having different time axis and all transcends each other. And the labyrinth exists inside of the cardinal world. Promised land sees everything as fiction including cardinal world. Rimuru stomps every single version of Goku.
It’s not say that they’re transcendent each other but that there are only a different time axis and Xeno Goku can be easily Outerversal too and outhax Rimuru
@@Voidson1 What? Say it clearly. Are you trying to say the different floors of the labyrinth don't transcend the other? If so, you're wrong buddy. Also, on which basis do you claim that zeno Goku is outer and he can outhax Rimuru? Verse scaling? It'd be good if you gave some coherent scaling proofs for that, what I have written has all needed information for Rimuru to be outer in my og comment. Now, give me some coherent scaling and then you can talk yo s*it.
@@YuukiKagurazaka246 beats world r>f transcendence = Outer Xeno Goku=Outer and have 7x layered haxs with time power like conceptual manipulation reality warping causality manipulation fate manipulation non existence erasure etc
@@Voidson1 "Beats world R>f transcendence" what you mean by that? Are you trying to say that Goku surpasses our world? Or just his verse? If it's just his verse, I have bad news for you my guy, DB series is just fiction in Tensura verse as it's seen with Veldora reading dragon ball manga and using Goku's moves. Also, all these Hax you just wrote, Rimuru have them, time manipulation, conceptuality manipulation, probability manipulation, space manipulation, Fate manipulation, Rimuru has reality manipulation as well. [Fun fact: Gabiru, a low level subordinate of his has Fate manipulation.] Rimuru transcends time and space completely, he also has turn null which is pure destruction and creation, it was used in the verse creation. Veldanava used Turn null to create a verse which scales to Hyper-Outer, Rimuru transcends the cardinal world so that naturally pushes him into outer. Also, what's this "7× layer" thing you're talking about, I thought we stopped using "layers into" for scaling. Also, what you said is just "Goku out Haxes Rimuru because I said so, beats world, r>f transcendence." Basically a whole bunch of nothing, you didn't give proof as well. I can give you the proof of the Tensura verse having R>f transcendence: [ "I had a dream. A very strange dream. In it, I was this very selfish little girl." Maria, now awake, looked at Gren and smiled. “Was it fun?” “Yes. Very much so.” They looked at each other and grinned “Odd, isn’t it? Why couldn’t I trust in that slime?” “Hmm, that’s a tough question. I’d like to say ‘Because it was a dream,’ but that’s not a very elegant answer.” “I’m serious!” ] This is Granville, a hero who died in volume 11, this is the epilogue where he's in the promised land, where he sees everything that happened in the cardinal world as a dream, and is describing it to his long dead wife, who was also there. Now, give me something new.
4:04 so you're saying xeno goku, a being that can manipulate probabilty , time, and even concepts is we know them, A being so powerful that if he transformed into base it was feared that he would destroy the universe, A being who defeated demigra who was going to destroy beats world, beats world seeing DBH as fiction and demigra was going to destroy it all and base cc goku tanked the existence erasing blow easily without knowing his other godly forms (like ssg) existed, so you're saying a being that has boundary, reality, time, space manipulating and a being who knows that he lives in fiction and can travel to beat's world ( or the real world) and still have power (a being greater than fiction) and let's not talk about capsule corp goku, and cc goku and xeno goku defeated fuu who was in the charisma world, which is Higher than the real world, just watch Kazi's or OfficialDivine's video and you'll see, im not saying xeno goku no diffs , probably mid diff but xeno goku wins, and cc goku is even worse than xeno goku
@@justafan-b5v yes I know what ya saying, in that time lapse, I was talking about how Xeno Goku beats anime rimuru but LN rimuru is a different story cause both of them are broken to be honest, and I personally did not know who would win
Are you dmb?? Creator??? Xeno goku from arcade is immune to reality manipulation and goku has two more weapons other than stick and that weapons are on par with Gilgamesh's weapons
Lil bro calm down jit, I didn't say rimuru wins, I said u guys decide, 😭 did u even watch the full vid, coming at me, I clearly said in the video Xeno beats anime rimuru but not webnovel rimuru and stated both their abilities, in the end I didn't pick a side, making u guys decide 😭
@@DimensionWalker_0 yes rimuru has that kind of ability to where nullifies things but not with a sword, oh and I edited the first comment I said, to make it more understandable
cc goku literally defeated a demon who could destroy all infinite timelines including infinite universes + the real world where dragon balls is just a fantasy and you can only watch it tv or play games . and that demon could do that in his second form alone . cc goku defeated him . last time i checked rimuru novel . he was 10k universes 😂😂 infinity vs 10k doesn’t sound even 00000000.0000000001% . i mean zero will go infinitely but just saying 😂 you have to understand the concept of dragon ball heroes
You definitely down played xeno goku. He has fought and defeated reality warpers. Even in the anime of dbz, bibidi is a reality warper. Even the kias cam do so.
Yes definitely, but rimuru does that plus he is almost boundless, plus there is no way to kill him, cause he got all kinds of immortality, even if u kill him somehow, he can reincarnate
@Seven-y3k Actually, there is a way to kill him he's not boundless. He can be obliterated. Both Zeno and anime Goku can do. Well, anime Goku wouldn't do it because he's not that type of person. However, xeno Goku, on the other hand, is different. Xeno Goku raw strength and speed would overwhelm him before he could analyze the attacks.
@@n1njawaldo17 he don't need to analyze when He's already a demon lord in the Light novels, he also has broken wrapping abilities, and anime Goku ain't touching LN rimuru I know that for sure, but Xeno Goku can be a debate, since they both broken, and zeno ain't doing nothing when Xeno Goku stronger then him, and rimuru being compared to Xeno or cc goku
I know this is not real, but he didn't talk about.The it aint goku the form of infinite power.He can reverse time destroy universes and everything he wants😅
Rimuru caps at multi+ by turn null and transnding space time. Tensursa cosmo caps at standard single finite universes wuth parallel timelines. Whereas heroes is above standard dragon ball multiverse where timelines aren't normal ones and have infinite possibilities reside themselves stated in xenoverse 2 and xeno goku>demigra>toki toki who can control concept of space and time in all of dragon ball verse which easily makes him outer by being above concept of space which is correlated to concept of dimensionality. Fusion reborn , there's another statement for single universe in dragon ball having infinite dimensions and you can argue them being very high as well.
Is this a rage bait ? if it is or it isn’t I will still fall for it anyway It seems you rimuru fan seems to throw the tiring system away and use your own logic instead, 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️ First of all let me address the part where you talked about anime rimuru and goku from super , when it comes to it , Goku is on a high dimensionality than rimuru anime or light novel but I will address it later, but like talk about both anime scale , according to the tiring system if the opposite side dimensionality is higher than the other , the other party hax will be meaningless because how do you expect a multiverse being to have the power to defeat an outerverse being which is so funny 🤦🏻♂️ Anime rimuru is only and island level characters why Goku from anime is outer because he was able to destroy a thing that transcends dimensionality so yeah by definition he is outer so Goku from super slam in that part Now let’s address the light novel because I my self have also read the light novel Rimuru from the light novel is only scale to complex multiverse or hyper at best He still can’t do anything to super Goku no to talk about Xeno goku who is far above his own verse and transcend 3 other world that sees the other as fiction and you have the balls to say rimuru from light novel win against him when he can’t even do anything to super Goku 🤦🏻♂️🙄 like what are you content creators thinking, you won’t even bother to do research about each verse and you guys will just come online and spread misinformation to other fans who don’t know how to scale and also haven’t watch the anime and read the light novel of each verse 🤦🏻♂️ That’s how you all miss lead people 🤷♂️
@@Seven-y3k rimuru doesn’t have any scale that put him at outer for now because I have already read the light novel , that’s why when I come online and seeing people highballing his feat makes me wonder 🤷♂️. And by the why do you know how both verse cosmology works ? Do you know how big sdbh cosmology is like bro 😩
@@Seven-y3k Like bro I have already read the light novel and also watch the anime so what are you still trying to say okay let me give you some Xeno goku scale base on his verse The time line in sdbh are infinite and each timeline are outer and the time nest transcend the infinite timeline making the time nest high outer , and then the crack of time transcend all of that making it 1 layer into high outer and also inside the time nest , there are infinite history and one history represent the verse as a whole . When they are talking about history in db they are referring to the story it self which also means the verse itself since demigra was going to destroy all infinite history making him infinite layers into high outer and he was also able to transcend to beat world that sees sdbh as fiction on a conceptual level making him boundless and still got defeated by base form Xeno goku , and Xeno goku is also scale to fuu who was able to transcend to the charisma world that also sees beat word as fiction on a conceptual level making him infinite layers into boundless and fu was still able to go to the fictional Japan where the author came from and also transcend all of the worlds on a conceptual level making it another infinity layer into boundless and also have it in mine that fuu was still able to manipulate the plot of db granting him plot manipulation and in the game he was still able to create his own story mode with the same cosmology as sdbh Granting him author authority . And also Xeno goku have immunity over all hax etc I hope this helps ✌🏻😤 And also if you think I am joking I don’t mind adding you on discord so that I can send you all the scans and statements 🤷♂️😤 Rimuru from the right novel doesn’t have any feat that puts him at low outer not talk to about outer , but Goku from super is already outer in the anime and far greater in the manga and you still have the heart to put him against Xeno Goku who is by far already above his own verse 😂😂🤦🏻♂️ like it’s really funny that why I don’t rely on content creators to scale a character for me because they won’t even bother to do research about the very that was put against there favorite verse Although the only power scaler I can rely on is kazi and divine because they do a lot of research about the character that they are ask to scale and use statement and feat to back it up along with the tiring system ✌🏻
@@choidaniel7026 I did too did u even watch the vid, I give them feats and when I saw them both being broken I just said u guys decide, that's how I know u didn't watch the whole thing, but anywho ion got discord, ion use that, I just use TH-cam and tik Tok, but u cool tho
@@Yaboygogeta also if he's ever died, he will come back because xeno was created by the supreme Kai of time and since chronoa got stronger, xeno might get an upgrade but this is just a maybe
“Using Goku is overkill. There’s an enemy in earlier Dragon Ball, like Janemba, who can copy you, make you fight yourself, and even manipulate reality. If we use Black Janemba, who has the powers of both Xeno Goku and Vegeta, that’s it-game over. There’s nothing more you can do.”
You don't know who rimurju he's would eat all of dragon ball
@@Jayse-xu6rt no that doesn’t work bro in the cause if you take dragon Ball there is an enemy who can do that like buu or buuhan was going to destroy the entire universe by his power
@@pasty188 rimuru is a supreme diety their is nothing any character from dragon ball can do to stop him
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Bro, they can goku use the Hakai and erase him for us the existing
@@pasty188 rimuru is immune to being destroyed
"rimuru could adapt to goku techniques" rimuru might be possibly mahoraga 🗣️🗣️
@@FZresetYT MAHORAGA HELP ME, MAHORAGAAAAAAAA!!!!!
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@@Seven-y3k Goku wins automatically. Larger fan base=more glazers and r>f means his spirit bomb gon be so strong it just rips right through the screen and kills everyone including Rimuru glazers. No more Goku debates.
@@Minizu4 brother this gonna create more war but I guess I started this war 😭
@@Seven-y3k This one was more of a joke comment so this one shouldn't cause no trouble. Plus everyone knows Goku is Gokuversal.
1st page XG&CC GOKU
It was stated that if Xeno Goku power up from base he would destroy all off existence(as in all of history, space, time, the infinite timelines, the time chamber and even Beats’ world) which implied that just the act of transforming Xeno Goku transcend to higher dimensional scale and you could put Xeno Goku at higher. the transcend all of space and time statement as transcending the space time of all of the infinite histories, timelines, iterations, and dimensions with all the different flows, rules, pattern, and designs(this idea was already seen in Dragon Ball Super during the Moro and Granolah arcs as it was confirm that there are several rooms of Spirit and Time that exist on separate dimensions and have different flows of time when compare to the main universe). To transcend all of that is basically transcending the concept of space and time.
XGG in short form is omnipotent and omniscient, and can also be considered as omnipresent, he has infinite stats on everything, his ssj2 and beyond threatens all non linear history itself, he also has hundreds of passive abilities which makes him indestructible, for example:
Cosmology: Confirmed to be much larger than JF DB where JF Goku Destroyed Prometheus, who was gonna destroy all of shonen jump and was gonna fuse the REAL world with Anime, Prometheus also sees fiction as fiction and he's superior to Real Humans, and JF Goku beat him and XGG is in fact stronger, much stronger.
Can use SSJ4 limit breaker which multiplies his power around to an infinite amount.
-Sees Fiction as Fiction (R>F transcendence).
-Wields the Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/powers/hax counters/ability counters instantly and/or steals them + passive warping over all concepts).
-He can destroy infinite multiverses, infinite high 1-A structures and even more higher structures, infinite hierarchies of dimensions and timelines with infinite possibilities and events with his presence alone, including extra dimensional coordinates and infinite aleph 3 dimensions (high outer dimensions) in base form. Has strength theft/negation as well.
-Unimaginable Battle Experience. Lived through all of DB franchise and exists way beyond that.
-Instantaneous speed, instantaneous movement, infinite speed, immeasurable speed, irrelevant speed (Existed outside the flow of time comparable to Towa).
~Weakness: None Notable
-Beings beyond the concepts of reality and creation itself are scared of Xeno Goku and he transcends them at base form with no difficulty).
-Controls all dimensionality and is beyond dimensionality and can access over any dimensionality.
-Transcends all knowledge in the real world, and all the real humans and the audiences/players who view Dragon Ball as fiction or a game. (Gazed into infinite possibilities of infinite timelines which is an omniscient feat.)
-He can and has defeated characters who can passively alter the outcomes of situations, control infinite realities, dimensionalities and all fate itself, infinite creation, altering possibilities, gods that can create or destroy High 1-A structures and beyond and extra dimensional coordinates, all types of immortal gods and literal gods who literally have control over all of concepts with absolute no doubt or difficulty.
-He can tank and has tanked all of creation being erased including the non linear history, space and time and dimensionality itself, stood point blank while creation getting destroyed. Zero observable damage.
-Was a threat to a flow of time by just charging up as confirmed by the Kaioshin and was prohibited from from turning ssj as that might crumble entirety of reality. SSJ4 limitbreaker would rip apart truth itself.
-Saved all non history by killing Demigra, Towa and Mira who were threatening to destroy the >> and were threatening to destroy high outer/boundless structures to infinite layers into boundless constructs and Xeno Goku in base form toyed with and killed them with a few punches in base.
-Can selectively choose how to warp or alter or delete all reality, time, force, possibilities, chances, physics, maths, boundaries, laws, the presence of mind itself, can also delete all memories including counters to this hax making it inevitable.
-He has almost every type of manipulation, transformation, deformation, purification, probability rewriting, reality warping, immunity negation, boundary manipulation, meta-miracle manipulation, meta-Disaster Manipulation and many more haxes.
-Can manipulate anyone's very life, time, Boundary, matter, space and reality, conceptual, probability, immunity, immortality, means absolute nothing to him. He has the ability to create miracles (Meta-Miracle Manipulation) and destroy them (Meta-Disaster Manipulation).
Tier: Infinite layers into Baseline Boundless (BASE state) and can reach further beyond that. Thru manga/anime/arcade version of heroes characters especially xeno goku
Early DBZ: {{{ In Freezer saga
Frieza 2nd form stated that he had enough power to destroy the visiable universe(not the whole universe) which can be made out high-multi galaxy in his second form so goku in his ssj form( who embarrassed frieza) should be at least low-universal in the namek saga.
In Cell saga
Cell ssj2( he has the same aura as gohan after regenerating) as enough power to scale him towards mid-universal but doesn't have any feats beyond data book scaling.
In Majin Buu saga
Super Buu was going to destroy the whole universe and even vegito and databooks confirm that Super Buu's techniques was enough to destroy the whole universe(universe 7). Then when kid buu showed up and found Goku and Vegeta in the grand Supremekaioshin world the supreme kais were afraid he could destroy their world and this can take an infinite amount of energy as this kai world is 1/10 of the macroscom.
In Dragon Ball Fusion Reborn
Goku, Pikkon and Vegeta have infinite speed able to travel from other world to hell( further reiterated in the metal cooler movie), Goku transforming had enough energy to shake Hell,The Otherworld, and Heaven which requires an infinite amount of energy and power( goku had more energy due to being dead). GOGETA'S ssj energy and power amd lit up Hell, The Otherworld and possibly Heaven which in itself can argue the SSJ GOGETA has Infinite power.
In Dragon Ball GT
goku even states himself that General Rildo was more powerful than majin buu, Who threatened to destroy the universe and Supremekaioshin World. And PAN DEFEATED HIM BY HERSELF💀. And BASE GOKU IS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN PAN. Goku than fights some other small villians who make him stronger. Then he fights SSJ3 Baby with SSJ3 and loses than Transforms into SSJ4 which is a 1 billion times multipler from base( ssj3 is a 400 times multipler and and golden ozaro is a 500 times multipler and 500x400x Baby's power boost + Crazy DB scaling means goku would need 1 billion times more power to defeat him.) Then he one-shot Super 17 in base( The Super 17 who made 4 SSJs look fodder). Nouva Shenron was also stated by goku ( at that time to be the strongest opponent he'd ever faced) goku one-shot his Fellow Dragon ( Ice shenron)( who are both relative in power) in Ssj4. Then Goku( Ultra Full Power Ssj4) humiliated Syn (The Strongest Shadow Dragon).
Immediately when OMEGA Shenron appeared the whole universe( including Hell,The Otherworld and Heaven and the Supremekaioshin World)(Basically the Living World which is infinite in size)started collapsing on itself by OMEGA SHENRON JUST EXISTING. And Goku( with help obviously) one-shot Omega Shenron who was going to destroy Everything( maybe the whole timeline). }}}
Xeno Goku EXPERIENCED all this( and more just didn't mention it)when got a Whole lot Stronger. And is as strong as Ssj Blue CC Goku who is stronger than MUI from the T.O.P who shook an infinite realm by just existing.
And is relative to Dark Janemba who threatened to disrubt the whole cosmos in The Anime. So adding on to his feats his feats in SDBH AND XENOVERSE AND SDBH the Game he would scale way above high outerversal and would be impossible to scale. After Watching The Anime and Reading The Manga And Databooks[( in his Strongest Form(Ssj4LB)]
Strength: Immeasurable
Speed: Irrelevant
Energy: Immeasurable
Power: Immeasurable
Scaling: Immeasurable( beyond infinity)
In we know xeno goku n more of cc goku did all this n xeno goku been thru all of og all of Z end of z all of movies plus gt n bog since it’s a Z movie n starting being a time patrol
Abilities~
•Energy absorption
•Power absorption (passive)
•Deleting stamina (passive)
•Power nullification (passive)
•Acausality (passive)
•Afterimage Creation (passive)
•Non-Physical Interaction (passive)
•Purification (presence of mind and soul) (passive)
•Paralysis (passive)
•Dimension creation/destruction over all concepts of dimensionality, and is also beyond dimensionality where he has supreme control over everyone even beyond dimensionality. (Passive)
•Resistance to existence erasure and concept erasure. (Passive)
•Extreme health regeneration and injury regeneration granting invincibility with passive counter-ability which makes his invincibility not deletable and has immense level of immortality (same counter-ability as regeneration)(Passive)
•All types of negation (passive)
•Omnipotence (infinite strength and infinite stats, also transcends over all beings and their powers). (Passive)
•Fusion (potaras and fusion dance)
•Transformations (exponentially increases infinite stats by infinite multipliers)
•Sense of everything (passive)
•Reality Alteration (passive)
•Plot Hole Creation (passive)
•Time manipulation and alteration (passive)
•Invulnerability (passive)
•Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time (passive)
•Infinite Endurance (passive)
•Infinite Mana (passive)
•Infinite Ki (passive)
•Infinite Force (passive)
•Infinite speed (passive)
•Immunity negation (Negates opponent
immunities) (passive)
•Miracle Creation
•Concept Manipulation/Control
•Weapon Creation (passive)
•Plot manipulation immunity (passive)
•Attack Reflection (passive)
•Immortality (passive)
•Dualism (passive)
•Causality (passive)
•Possibility changing abilities and fate changing abilities, can even change the total narration) (can be selectively passive)
•Multiple Dimensional Travel (passive)
•Empathetic manipulation (passive)
•Matter manipulation (passive)
•Age manipulation (passive)
•Corrosion Inducement (passive)
•Soul manipulation (passive)
•Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/ Powers permanently)
Abilities~
•Energy absorption
•Power absorption (passive)
•Deleting stamina (passive)
•Power nullification (passive)
•Acausality (passive)
•Afterimage Creation (passive)
•Non-Physical Interaction (passive)
•Purification (presence of mind and soul) (passive)
•Paralysis (passive)
•Dimension creation/destruction over all concepts of dimensionality, and is also beyond dimensionality where he has supreme control over everyone even beyond dimensionality. (Passive)
•Resistance to existence erasure and concept erasure. (Passive)
•Extreme health regeneration and injury regeneration granting invincibility with passive counter-ability which makes his invincibility not deletable and has immense level of immortality (same counter-ability as regeneration)(Passive)
•All types of negation (passive)
•Omnipotence (infinite strength and infinite stats, also transcends over all beings and their powers). (Passive)
•Fusion (potaras and fusion dance)
•Transformations (exponentially increases infinite stats by infinite multipliers)
•Sense of everything (passive)
•Reality Alteration (passive)
•Plot Hole Creation (passive)
•Time manipulation and alteration (passive)
•Invulnerability (passive)
•Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time (passive)
•Infinite Endurance (passive)
•Infinite Mana (passive)
•Infinite Ki (passive)
•Infinite Force (passive)
•Infinite speed (passive)
•Immunity negation (Negates opponent
immunities) (passive)
•Miracle Creation
•Concept Manipulation/Control
•Weapon Creation (passive)
•Plot manipulation immunity (passive)
•Attack Reflection (passive)
•Immortality (passive)
•Dualism (passive)
•Causality (passive)
•Possibility changing abilities and fate changing abilities, can even change the total narration) (can be selectively passive)
•Multiple Dimensional Travel (passive)
•Empathetic manipulation (passive)
•Matter manipulation (passive)
•Age manipulation (passive)
•Corrosion Inducement (passive)
•Soul manipulation (passive)
•Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/ Powers permanently)
Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority}
* Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.}
* Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) -Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) -Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) -Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) -Power Absorption (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming Attack and power) -Power Redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) -Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) -Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) -Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) -Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) -Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) -Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) -Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) -Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) -Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) -Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) -Regeneration and Immortality Negation(negate Mechikabura’s regeneration which is stated to be limitless and immortality) -Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an undetermined amount of time with the same abilities as Xeno Goku) Exhale+panting There are more but you get the gist of it
Author authority Immunity (Completely Ignores the effects of author involvement from an opponent) {As shown Against Demigra who surpassed the Authors avatar via Author authority}
* Plot manipulation immunity (Ignores changes to plot caused by an opponent) {As shown by DEMIGRA who attempted to change his own fate against Xeno Goku by rewriting it.}
* Ki Universe creation (a space created by Xeno Goku in which he has Supreme Control) -Speed Theft ( Xeno Goku steals the Speed of the target and applies it to his own) -Energy theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets energy and empowers himself) -Physical strength theft (Xeno Goku steals the targets strength and adds it to himself) -Power Absorption (Xeno Goku absorbs all Incoming Attack and power) -Power Redirection (Xeno Goku Unleashed all Absorbed power as well as redirects incoming Atks multiplying there power by the previously absorbed power) -Time Manipulation (Xeno Goku can Travel to any point in time and alter events before they take place or after they take place) -Time Altercation (Alters the flow of time to prevent Hazardous energy spillout from a Fight by Splitting the Current fight into a New timeline entirely where the opponent cannot escape without Xeno Goku's assistance) -Time intervention (prevents a timeline from continuing to change by eleminating all changes within it) -Weapon Creation (Creates weapons from memory above the power of the Weapons original design) -Weapon Summon (Summons weapons from The Time nest as needed) -Damage Negation (completely negates the effects of dmg from incoming Atks) -Speed negation (removes all the speed from an opponent) -Strength negation (Removes all the strength of an opponent by Manipulating there Life energies) -Power negation (Negates the effects of Opponent powers) -Immunity negation (Negates opponent immunities) -Regeneration and Immortality Negation(negate Mechikabura’s regeneration which is stated to be limitless and immortality) -Multiplication of Self (Creates multiple Exact copies of self for an undetermined amount of time with the same abilities as Xeno Goku) Exhale+panting There are more but you get the gist of it
Game Xeno Goku transcends his own game 7 times, he has plot manip immunity and can nullify anything rimuru does
Gluttony.
@@MonkeyDkrscool ability, it will be bad if you can't use it.
To bad ciel would just copy it just axept it like I did 😅
And void god azathoth can devour multiverses and be nothingness 😅
Too bad Xeno goku isn’t multiversal
low diff for Rimuru
@@oscarlee-i2bwhat are you talking about? too bad rimuru isn't galaxy, neg diff for goku
CC/ Xeno Goku negs LN Rimuru.
They transcend dimensions, can erase all of time and space by powering up, can destroy infinitely higher realms that view theirs as fiction, they have no limits, their weakest victims can destroy, control, restart, all of existence.
One of them has control over fate, so he could not lose because he was the master of time/ fate, and that was all well and good until he met Base Goku who one shot him.
Xeno/ CC Goku is boundless.
he isnt boundless you listed all that but none of that scales then to boundless
@@TheReal_Shinoits not boundless but it still should be outer i think correct me if im wrong
Bro rimuru is a digital Lifeform a being existence outside the space and time which gives him BDE TYPE 1 no dragon ball character can interact with him also most of the xeno Goku abilities work in group and this is 1 vs 1 also key sword needs to be awakened first in order to use it full potential which requires times and rimuru also have fate, casualty, space time manipulation and many more everything works on a information type 2.
Also zeno Goku is only low complex the real world in game is meta fiction which scale to 6-7D.
@@TheReal_Shinofr
What they way db fans scales u can get rimuru to H1A
Alright, first, you played Xeno Goku dirty, you did not mention half of his hax, secondly: Beats world is basically our own world, that means that Beats other than Db can view the SAME EXACT FICTIONS as we do, that means Rimuru...anime, manga, light novel or whatever is mere fiction in Beats eyes. Demigra at full power trascended the reality tier and actually stepped into our world, where he had NO POWERS, but Xeno Goku could still use some of his, even if LIMITED. Point of this is: Xeno Goku (Game DBH storyline) UTTERLY NEGS Rimuru in all of his forms.
If you're still unsure about it: Dbh views all other anime/fictional verses as timelines as shown in the One Piece crossover, Chronoa literally held the DBH plane of existence from collpasing, Xeno Goku in base is stronger than her by a LOT.
Just cuz you people don't even bother to research Xeno Goku as you should before doing these...videos...does not mean the other things you forgot to mention or search for does not exist.
@@firedragonking6619Goku glazers he can't do that
Still scales to 6D at best if u wanna get to outer u can do the same for rimuru lol he has statements for H1A
@@geekerjay no he ain't, if he got to trascend the DBH verse, and pop up into the real world (ours), that means he trascends dimensionality. I've just sent a link to an answer on quora which downplay him too, then there is the first comment that literally scalea him to outerversal in base.
Rimaru also transcends fiction and in his world dragon ball is also just fiction as Valdora used the Kamehameha with he learned from reading Dragonball and you say people don't bother to do research on Xeno Goku when You don't even try to do research on Rimaru do you know how Hypocritical that sounds try actual understanding your own words and the character your talking about before you try to make a conclusion in a debate
@@A39pro
And some scans or proof to back up your claim.
Don't speak lies here and learn what dimensionality is.
Xeno Goku destroys, Xeno Goku is an omniscient being that can precieve different realities and knows that he exists within fiction, he defeated demigra who he himself had the power to destroy all of history, with the cosmology scaling to outer since the afterlife is dimensionally transcendental and also described as a super-dimensional realm, and Zeno palace exists at a higher plane of existence and Zeno views the multiverse as chest pieces. Not only that but Demigra was also going to destroy the Real world which views DBH world as fiction, and Fuu being able to exist within the Charisma world which is beyond the real world, making all this high outer therfore scaling Xeno Goku to high outer. Also Xeno goki got broken hax, Fate manipulation, Probability manipulation, life-force absorbsion, Time manipulation, Existence erasure, Reality manipulation, Conceptual manipulation, Power negation and Immortality negation, Stamina manipulation and boundary manipulation, also has resistance to existence erasure, plot manipulation, time manipulation, and law manipulation.
@@HeHe-s8h brother this is good Information
Well, web novel rimuru has ALL of this plus some.
@@tekatokitaarimodota7685 Rimuru does not have all of these abilities or hax.
@@tekatokitaarimodota7685 trust me xeno game Goku would have killed rimuru under 10 seconds
No he doesnt@@tekatokitaarimodota7685
You forgot some things.
Such as. (LIGHT NOVEL)
1. Rimuru is immune to being deleted in one shot, and their soul and body being destroyed at all (Hakai wont work)
2. Rimuru has hundreds of 99% heal potions
3. Hes immune to temperature (fire, ice, lava, etc), poison, intoxication, stabbing, slashing, pain, electricity, and much more
4. Demon Lord presence one shots half of DBZ (hyperbole)
5. The god of the void creates / destroys MULTIVERSES at will, and can break millions (hyperbole) of universes at once
6. Due to the fact he creates existing manga in the show (DBZ, and Street Fighter) this shows that he transended theough fiction into a possible different multiverse in reality.
7. Adaptation goes crazy
Forgot to add (to lazy to)
Rimuru can bend reality
@@Shadow_YT_YT haha ya I was lazy 🦥, sorry about that but rimuru takes the win in my opinion
Yeah, people in comments are mad glazing Goku, so I just. Wrote a *wall*
@@Shadow_YT_YT haha nah it was something I can read, rimuru is op is just people aren't moving on and are stuck on Goku being the strongest when there are characters appearing that can destroy the verse with a finger
"Rimuru with his regeneative abilities and Absorbing will beat Goku"
Janemba: 💀
Kid Buu: 💀
Android 19 n 20: ☠️
Perfect Cell: 😭
Infinte Zamasu: 🫠
n etc....
rimuru LN is not something dbs character can mess with, only dbsh characters like goku cc and xeno can hang with him
@@Seven-y3k Z goku is enough, cope w it 😭
@@CallMeIAN1 nah gangy
@@Seven-y3k cope w it, foo :D
@@CallMeIAN1 nah gangy
Come on. Goku's abilities may be simple but they're far too powerful for rimuru to handle. Xeno Goku is overkill
NAH
@@Seven-y3kMoon Destroy - Power Lev 136
{ Anime Goku Base Form Power Lev = 100 Trillion - Manga Base Form Power Lev = 210 Trillion }
SS3 POWER LEV = 40 Quadrillion
TOP - SSG Power Lev = 5 Quintillion
DBSH - SSG Power Lev = 10 Quintillion 🥲
SSB Kaio-ken Power Lev = 5 Sextillion
{ 120 Billion x Base Form
Mui Goku Power Lev = 12.6 Septillion }
Tui Goku Power Lev = 43,75 Septillion
♾️ Overkill 💀⚰️
@@Seven-y3kbruh you are being roasted by your comment section just admit you were wrong
@@patriciaadigwe3775 for those who didn't watch the video FULLY will say anything, I CLEARLY SAID LN RIMURU VS GOKU I DONT KNOW
@@Seven-y3k
Go and watch devine he'll tell you how strong earth's saviour is
There’s a common misconception about the different versions of Goku in the Dragon Ball series. Some fans refer to “CC Goku” (presumably short for Capsule Corp Goku), but this is just a fan-made term. In reality, there’s only one Goku across the different storylines and continuities. Whether he’s from Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, or any other related media, it’s all the same Goku. Let me explain further.
In Dragon Ball Online, the story takes place in an era far beyond the current age of Dragon Ball, but they still travel back to the current age. This is significant because, in the Buu Saga of Dragon Ball Z Universe, Goku and the avatar you control manage to defeat Mira. Toa then collects Mira, who is in a weakened state, as a cell. This same Toa, who was part of the main continuity in Dragon Ball Z Universe, appears again in Dragon Ball Z Kakarot, where she is seen gathering energy to restore Mira from that same cell state.
This connection shows that the events in Dragon Ball Z Universe and Dragon Ball Z Kakarot are canon to each other, and by extension, make Dragon Ball Z Universe canon to the main continuity. Since it’s already established that Dragon Ball Z Kakarot itself is canon, it’s clear that these games are closely linked within the same timeline. It’s not uncommon for Dragon Ball games to share the same timeline, as seen with Dragon Ball Breakers and Dragon Ball Heroes.
So, this basically means that the Goku in Dragon Ball Z Kakarot is the same Goku from Dragon Ball Z Universe and, by extension, the same Goku from Dragon Ball Super. They are all the exact same person, just seen in different scenarios or storylines.
Want even more evidence that Dragon Ball Z Universe is canon? Consider the fact that Toyotarou, the artist who works closely with Akira Toriyama, draws the Dragon Ball Z Universe manga. Both Toyotarou and Toriyama are credited as authors of the manga, with Toriyama even stating on the cover that Toyotarou has taken up the mantle of drawing Dragon Ball. Toyotarou brings the Dragon Ball Universe to life based on the basic story and ideas provided by Toriyama. If Dragon Ball Z Universe wasn’t canon, this connection and acknowledgment wouldn’t be there.
Some might argue, “But that’s the manga, not the game!” Well, unfortunately for them, the consistency and continuity across different media forms-whether it’s manga, anime, or games-further reinforce that Goku is the same character in all these stories, and Dragon Ball Z Universe holds a place in the overall canon.
nah, anime and manga follow different timelines. Especially in SDBH you can see there are multiple version of goku and xeno goku is only one of them
@@XandusKee no the manga doesn’t follow different timeline is the same timeline because you’re avatar character going into the same timeline
@@XandusKee remember the Z fighter forget about you when you do the mission they forget about you and don’t remember you but Goku somehow know you are remember you and treat you like a friend
@@pasty188 can't argue with that, but we know for sure there are multiple Goku's cos of SDBH and CC Goku is just the one wearing CC in SDBH ig
How does this apply to a specific Goku with SSJ4
Rimuru could literally make a carbon copy of Xeno Goku and make them fight themselves eternally, while he stays unaffected. Bro recreated a lot of mangas in his universe and Veldora even used some of said abilities like the Kamehameha and Hadouken in the anime, dude literally transcended fiction and used their own abilities... and that was the ANIME Rimuru.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla rimuru is so op to the point he can create universe's, and survive anything and has all types of immortality
Plus with Keysword the Rimuru’s regeneration isn’t even a problem he can negs that so easily
exactly lmao xeno goku is so broken
High godly regeneration and resurrection along with Conceptual manipulation type 1 laughing in the corner:
@@ScarletDemon-i8n High Godly regen negation plus passive power null 6 layers so bro
@@Voidson1 what do you mean there's no high godly regen neg? he only has low godly regen neg via the keysword
@@ScarletDemon-i8n key sword negs all abilities on a boundless level
People here really be saying "Xeno Goku wipes" without even knowing a fraction of what Novel Rimuru can do LMAO
Doesnt the novel has a statement where Rimuru stored enough energy in his pocket dimension to recrete the universe 1000 times? And that wasnt even Rimuru at the end of the novel LOL
Dude, you missed a lot about xeno Goku here, you literally nerfed him and favored rimuru.
@@Franciscaf-rp2wd nah I mentioned some of his power but I had to quick it up cause I got android
@@Seven-y3k I understand, but before you made this video you should have checked out other dragon ball related material such as guides, novels, movie comics, games as well as dragon ball heroes and XenoVerse, among others, since all this would help with the scaling and haxs of xeno Goku, even if it took a while for the video to come out, it would be much more complete.
Demogra was about to destroy every timeline, complete omniverse and every parralel timeline future and past.
Xeno goku defeated him while super saiyan (1 or 3 not sure)
This scranny character has no shot
If you guys think that Rimuru has infinite respawns and can defeat Goku you're wrong. Remember what happened to Majin buu on DBZ? No matter how many times Majin buu got defeated he always respawned healthy. However at last he spawned a Spirit Bomb drawing the energy of people on earth. And that spirit bomb proved too strong even for the indestructible Majin buu. But at last he died. If Xeno Goku learns Or Goku uses the spirit bomb on Rimuru it's over. He just needs the power to push the bomb and it's done
Hell no xeno goku negs this fodder
He is not fodder but yes😊
...why dont you research BOTH sides before saying things like that...
@@tekatokitaarimodota7685 i do know what both sides are capable of, xeno goku negs 😭
Nah
@@Seven-y3k and why is this the case
Nah boi, goku has the thiccest plot armour that even dr. Doom can't cut through
Goku in both DBS and Heroes is just far to strong and fast. Even if Rimiru can regenerate from a basic attack or two splattering him, Goku just pulls out Hakai, Mafuba or keysword and erases/seals him before he can process what's happening. Also Goku can destroy things at an atomic level and hurt even spirits and non corporeal being, so unless Rimiru can survive his body being destroyed down to an atomic level, and his spirit being blown away even regular attacks are enough.
@@SSJRyu1 he can survive all of that, and even potentially initiate them
@@Seven-y3kInteresting, might survive regular attacks then if he can come back from body and soul erase. That's pretty good regen actually. But I don't see him getting around Hakai, that can erase not just body and soul, but it can erase people from all histories according to Beerus, and even characters that can just regenerate from being erased from the story and narrative like Dr.Mashiroto from Doctor Slump can't regenerate from Hakai. Not many characters can come back from multiple layers of body, soul, history and narrative erasure.
@@SSJRyu1 yes rimuru can survive hakai
Rimuru already survived existence erasure on a conceptual level
@@Seven-y3kI'm still skeptical Rimiru can come back from Hakai tbh. It can stop regen from body and soul across all timelines, and even nulls regen from narrative erasure on Mashuroto, which is usually considered a similar or higher level to conceptual given the very idea of a character is part of the narrative.
Honestly, it's one of those fruitless arguments where one story is clearly about creating the most overpowered character(s) ever while the other has the reputation for being such a story, when really its just a matter of catering a sad, aging fanbase that won't accept power scaling to go backward after the stakes kept rising at a ridiculous rate (perhaps this goes for both).
Just wondering when the day will come where DBZ fans....and fans of [Insert OP character from story about being OP] stop gathering around to see who has the lowest IQ
Moon Destroy - Power Lev 136
{ Anime Goku Base Form Power Lev = 100 Trillion - Manga Base Form Power Lev = 210 Trillion }
SS3 POWER LEV = 40 Quadrillion
TOP - SSG Power Lev = 5 Quintillion
DBSH - SSG Power Lev = 10 Quintillion 🥲
SSB Kaio-ken Power Lev = 5 Sextillion
{ 120 Billion x Base Form
Mui Goku Power Lev = 12.6 Septillion }
Tui Goku Power Lev = 43,75 Septillion
♾️ Overkill 💀⚰️
thats not how it works
@@gameboi1943 This is how Dragon Ball's power level works - did u get dizzy after seeing Goku's power level??
@@AjayMachhi-uu5ry Ur assuming his scaling based on assumed numbers. And since the universe is a infinite space, you can go to power level infinity and still only be universal
@@gameboi1943Gaymuru And Anos Is Overrated Fodder Nothing more than That - His fans only like to spread lies - Gaymuru He Can't destroy 10k universes even in his dreams. Leave the 10k universes. He has not even created or destroyed a single universe in LN - And I came to know this while debating with Gaymuru's fan - and I have also seen Gaymuru's LN
@@gameboi1943And I am the same - my comments are being blocked by the yt people.
Basically, you know nothing about Goku and especially Xeno Goku, I got it.
aight u can assume i aint finna argue
@@Seven-y3k Super easy, let's see,In universe 7 there is a super space, which in the context of quantum mechanics is High hyperversal,DB follows that, as it is Canonically at least a type 3 multiverse, stated on official sites,The type 3 multiverse also reaches High Hyperversal via Hilbert space,So it is Consistent that Universe 7 is High Hyperversal, either by Super Space or the Type 3 Multiverse,Moving further into Cosmology, universe 7 also contains things like super dimensional structures,That are things beyond dimensionality itself,And considering that we have already established that Universe 7 is at least High hyperversal+ by two different methods,The only thing that super dimensional structures can be is outerversal,And BoG Goku>>Universe 7 and so on, there is a very simple meta of Goku Outerversal .
The scale is also consistent with other statements, such as guides that say that Goku vs Beerus' power and fight is super dimensional,Just like the Chouzenchu that says that the power of the Gods of destruction transcends dimensionality itself, etc.
This is a pretty lowball-midball scale for universe 7, no version of Rimuru unless you're really generous reaches anything close to this,Let's leave out the Xeno Goku scale
@@yeikelamores6085 even tho i aint tryna argue, i cant hate on u, when u have good information, props to u dude, its nice information
I think it’s best if we stop debating amine they never go have a collaboration Even though they all should, but it’s never going to happen
Thanks for like or whatever you call it and by the way beerus the strongest
Nice video
@@MarcioIsm_ thank u brother
The only difference between anime Rimuru and WN Rimuru. Is story progression. Anime Rimuru just has caught up to the point in the story where WN Rimuru is at.
A Lot of people sleep on Rimuru. Especially since the don't really know much about him. I'm a dragonball fan and I can honestly admit that Rimuru would cook any form or version of Goku. Rimuru would would beat Goku out in term of energy, intelligence, and adaptability. To be absolutely honest even for an isekai character, Rimuru is absolutely broken.
Plus the very nature of Rimuru and Buu's adsorption abilities are vastly different. Rimuru actually has the better version of said ability.
Same bro. I love DB with all my heart, its been with me all my life, but the Gokutards here are just annoyingly dumb.
Never saw A bleach fan say something this unwise if were talking game xeno goku he slams all 3 goku and rimuru and LN rimuru at same time
nah i agree with ur statement about xeno slamming anime rimuru but no LN rimuru, is obvious u a Goku fan
@@Seven-y3kXeno goku negs ln rimuru ngl
@@d.h1655 aight bud
@@Seven-y3k honestly if I'm honest even dbs goku beats ln rimuru
@@d.h1655 it's night here and I don't wanna YAPP right now but aight
You guys Forgot something Very Important Dragon Ball in Tensura are just a Fiction created back on Japan in short its Just an Anime inside An anime hahahaha.
Either way Rimuru would slam Goku No matter what form or which version of Goku he's facing.
If you can't Accept that Rimuru is Stronger than Goku, that only means that You're Sugar coating Goku and Over Rating him.
Also I know people will reply on this Debunking my Statement so have fun Being a Fan Boi for your Over Rated Character named Goku.
Cc goku vs xeno goku who is stronger?
Cc Goku since bro absorbed the world tree he is stronger then Xeno Goku but idk about the game version of Xeno Goku
Vs current canon super goku
Its a massacre
Vs xeno goku
Its a massacre
Just the sides change victims
(Goku then rimuru)
for all those goku tards out there, this is a more detail proof why rimuru scale higher and win
so lets scale the dragon cosmology
macrocosm, main part afterlife, 4d structure with 3 temporal and time axis, space axis was never stated in context in any data book, people think that time = space, so its 5d but no, according to researcher, space time is necessary for both to coexist but they are no the same concept, and afterlife is dimensionality transcendence over the living world instead of the cosmology
kaioshin realm is above all that so its 5d
cc goku > xeno goku, which can threaten the infinite timelines, so 6d/hyperversal, cc is around the same, hyperversal
scaling rimuru:
nihility collapse/turn null/imaginary collapse can destroy infinite multiverse in tensura, each multiverse contains infinite universes and each universe has it's own infinite universe, making it an infinite hierarchy of universes, a universe contains infinite worlds/dimensions, each one holding infinite realities and possibilities, and each reality is beyond concepts including space time, a world also has infinite parallel dimensions, and a higher dimensional world like the astral world is infinitely higher than a lower dimensional world, transcending all concepts of the lower dimensional world, being a higher dimension
and a universe transcend all worlds, same goes to the multiverse transcending infinite hierarchy of universes
world = outer
universe = high outer
multiverse = infinite layers into high outer
rimuru = boundless baseline
to add on, rimuru also surpass the great spirit which is an true platonic being (means a perfect being that even surpass the cosmology itself), the great spirit was responsible to create the tensura, which mean its also another proof to be beyond the cosmology scaling = infinite layers into high outer - boundless
veldavana created all spirits (including the great spirit) which mean he is the literal god of the tensura, above all plane of existence and the nothingness, which mean he is also above the great spirit
rimuru is arguably stronger than veldavana since veldavana is limited on the uses of nihility collapse but rimuru's not
rimuru baseline layers into boundless
Wrote a whole anime novel and smth that doesnt matter btw cc goku solos rimuru
holy yappatron all that yap for game version of xeno goku to neg diff rimuru because key sword nullifies all of his haxs
@@Omer_Faruk053rimuru has layered resistance to power null
@@vali4634 sorry bro, LN Goku neg diff the whole slime verse 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
@@vali4634 sorry bro, LN Goku neg diff the whole slime verse 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
It feels the writers where just trowing ramdom habilities to light novel rimuru
Goku can't live the outer space. Rimuru could eat the super dragon ball then replicate that for his own. Goku is still a classic character who follows the law of physics. Even Saitama could stomp him.
@@BGuhChannel27 ion know about Saitama, but Saitama is definitely up there
Characters like Goku, Saitama disobey the laws of physics
Saitama stops ?😂😂nice kidding dude
Saitama is NOT winning ☠️
Wow. Amount of Goku fans dickriding him is overwhelming.
Goku can't even interact with Rimuru without information manipulation type 2, let alone defeat him.
That funny key that removes abilities? What a pity Ciel have all of Rimuru's hax as a backup and after being hit by it once Rimuru will get immunity to it. After evolving into manas Ciel is no longer Rimuru's ability, but being attached to his soul so key sword won't cut off their connection.
easi Hakai has the ability to erase everything 😂😂
Yeah and rimuru can resiste all type of erasement 😂trie harder
@@blazenitrozeus5721😂😂😂😂Hahahaha Hahahaha god Hahahaha Hahahaha Hahahaha Hahahaha Hahahaha
@@blazenitrozeus5721 Please say these words again because they made me laugh.
@@blazenitrozeus5721 Do you know the character Arale? If you don’t know her, I will introduce her to you. This character is resistant to all types of erasure, to the point that the writer himself intervened to erase her. Beerus was unable to use Hakai. He was able to eliminate her with Hakai with ease. Do you have anything additional to add? 😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏😂😂😂
@@blazenitrozeus5721 Do not be afraid, if the Technical is fully implemented, you will be erased from all time and from all place, and all your copies will be erased from all place and from all time, and you will not return, even for external reasons. 😂😂😂
i'm seeing to much goku fan saying cc or xeno goku beat ln rimuru they got to not know how strong is ln rimuru that's crazy 💀💀💀💀
@@nighty_locked I know
Actually Yes Xeno Goku beat LN Rimuru
@@DaliBadri-u8y nah bud
@@Seven-y3k
Yuh Uh
Xeno Goku game is Boundless in Base
LN Rimuru is Multiverse to High hyper or Low Outer
I know you won't believe this
@@DaliBadri-u8y of course not
Gaymuru is Overrated Fodder Nothing more than That 🥱
the pfp says it all💀
@@gameboi1943 Justice League < Divine Justice 💀⚰️
@@AjayMachhi-uu5ry wtf are you yapping about?
Oi dude just a question how much time did it take for chat GPT to make this video ?
nope i made it
😂, every version is Rimaru gets dog walked by BASE dbs Goku
Let's see you didn't say anything about how Xeno Goku is immune to hax and magic 😭
Why? Didn't wanna admit Goku negs?
Dbs Goku has beaten beings with infinite regen it's literally nothing new in db, Buu infinite regen
Also blatantly you ignored everything in power scaling which is higher dimensional beings ignore hax of lower dimensions and anime rimaru ain't past solar system lvl with LN and WN capping at low complex at their best 😂
And base dbs Goku is complex multi at a low ball 😂with ssg being an infinite multiplier and can mathematical be proven and Xeno Goku being way higher as he destroys concepts 💀in base
AIGHT BLUD
Xeno outhaxes and outscales, horrible scale for both characters but the Xeno downplay needs to end 😭
Ln rimuru will neg xeno goku even in vsbw LN rimuru negs via outhaxing
Goku one taps the verse no concept of Difficulty
@@itousatha5359 ya aight
no he doesn't 😂😂😂
@@mosil75 let's see you prove that
@@itousatha5359 well, the omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent creator of creation veldanava doesnt exist then.
@@tekatokitaarimodota7685 doesn't scale Anywhere dimensionally
Rimuru and Goku fans casually spitting bullshit that either, are fucking made up, not canon to the character, or massively overwanked for no reason. Why can't they just analyze and understand simple shit? Even if it looks/sounds complex, the better you look at it, the more you understand of the actual stuff
@@Fictional_Boy-nl5xz 👍🏽
Yeah. He absorbs the power of EDP445(predator).
hey guys so I got 2 things to tell you the first is that li and magic both are different if you are a real db fan you should know and the second is goku eradicated majin buu who has the best regeneration in whole anime verse and he got destroyed by a spirit bomb and now goku is even stronger
actually the fight would end with a single ki blast since ki blasts destroy things on the atomic level
Nope rimuru obserbes that and even intimate that
Rimuru can just regenerate
I have never seen so many meat riders in a single comment section.
@@thedoglovinggamer5825 😭🙏🏽
@@Seven-y3k Both sides are meat riding, it’s wild!
@@thedoglovinggamer5825 they all have respectable opinions, so I ain't bothered, 🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂
Only wrong thing you said was web novel cuz it should be light novel cuz light novel is original while web Novel is mostly fan made
Also great video 👍
@@sandstorm69996 thnx for the feedback cause my ahh forgot light novel existed 💀, but thanks dude u are a huge help
@@Seven-y3k np! I would like to see more of your videos in future!
@@sandstorm69996 thanks my guy I hope I will do this kind of videos in the future too
Web novel is the prototype not fanmade ,don't just cook misguiding information yourself
crazy this femboy Rimuru was a human one day
On Hakai is enough
@@YK10LEGEND don't work
@@Seven-y3k no it works
@@YK10LEGEND nah
@@Seven-y3k
Key sword works.
Reaching real world actually makes him transcend dimensionality so first do research then speak.
😂😂😂 your video is a cap .
Boo-boo boo boo .
Goku scales above the Macrocosm. The Macrocosm contains 2 5D Constructs such as the Afterlife that transcends the Mortal Universe that contains infinite galaxies and hyperspaces which is above Infinite 3D and 4D. Afterlife is also beyond time and space which further proves its 5D. It is also stated as Infinite aswell making it infinite 5D or Infinite 4D if you dislike 5D. The Kaioshin Realm is 1/10 of the inside of the macrocosm which includes the Afterlife making it 1/10 of Infinite 5D. To contain more than 1 infinite 5D structures, the construct would have to be beyond these structures having the Entire Macrocosm at 6D. Making Goku atleast 6D in Power or Low Complex Multiversal. Now for the World of Void. It is said to be outside and beyond the multiverse which is 12 Macrocosms in an infinite space called the Neutral Zone. Again it can only contain multiple 6D Structures making it either infinite 6D or 7D. Very possibly Infinite 7D. Making UIO Goku and anyone who scales to this level above that. Now for the timeline argument. The timeline contains everything to an infinite degree. This includes Zenos Palace that perceive the Neutral Zone as a mere chess game. Making Zenos Palace beyond 6D atleast to possibly 8D. The timeline contains all of this but infinitely as it contains time from beginning to end which is infinite. This Makes 1 Timeline atleast Infinite 8D to possibly 9D. Now Fused Zamasu fuses with the timeline and actually starts expanding into other timelines. Including the one where the main DBS story takes place. This proves Fused Zamasu is at least 9D and any character, including SSJB Goku to scale above it. Now I forgot the Super Dimensions as it came out a few weeks ago and I'm not used to talking about it, it would only allow atleast 1 dimensional tier higher because it said it was a higher dimension. It was also said to be several higher dimensions which could be taken as atleast 2 dimensional tiers higher but we will only use 1. Since Goku can fight in realms beyond time and fight beings whose power and speed surpass time like Jiren, he would have Immeasurable Speed.
So using Macrocosm Scaling Goku is 7D in power which is Complex Multiversal, Using World of Void Scaling Goku is Infinite 7D-Infinite 8D which is still Complex Multiversal and finally using Timeline Scaling Goku is 9D-10D which is High Complex Multiversal. Goku has immeasurable speed in all of them regardless since its beyond time and space levels of speed.
Now i know people hate Goku being above Universal and all but fuck yall. He could be scaled much higher, higher than I think is reasonable lmao. Basically i dunno about Outerversal yet.
@@christellemougnol9035 dude imma be serious when I say this
YOU COOKED WITH THIS INFORMATION, BRUV
I'm not hating or anything. This video genuinely seems like it was AI .
Not to mention the obvious lack of research because you didn't scale both characters correctly because you'd need about 10 minutes to go over just half of rimurus abilities and the same goes for Xeno.
But anyways uhhhhh great vid ig 🧍♂️.
@@Brokenleg-o8r hahaha I like ur comment gang, but nah the video ain't ai but the voice, and I did do research, I said in the vid anime rimuru is stronger then DBS anime Goku but not Xeno Goku, as I don't need to explain that much of Xeno Goku, but in the end I said if it's LN rimuru vs Xeno Goku is a different story as I didn't know who would win when both characters are strong, so I let u guys decide
Lemme end this in an instant the "Ai" of rimuru can make nullifying skills for everything (web novel) with no limits
Overpowered characters sometimes make my brain hurt of how much information they have 😭
@@Seven-y3k true like the Ai of rimuru is just busted
@@immobilegrain8809Fr, Xeno Goku may be an extremely broken character who can neg anime rimuru, but there’s no way he’s even touching WN or LN Rimuru.
@@MaceWolf42 true
Good video 👍
Also ignore all those people who can't except the facts
Also new subscriber
@@Akshaychoudhary-q2p thanks
You can Live in your delusion.
Rimuru has No limitation in Reality Warping if you can't encounter it
He is like Zamasu but can adapt to Any Situation Also he can create Any skill by himself for Any Situation nearly Impossible to beat if Equal Cosmology
Goku about Raw strength and Technique.
Xeno Goku Able to Beat up Rimuru If his Cosmology Higher if not bro is dead
uh you forgot to add that basic magic in tensura is type 1 conceptual manipulation which no character in all of DBH possesses. So like you could even argue that a NORMAL mage in tensura could theoretically annihilate Xeno goku
Actually, they do bruh watch the amine play the game and read the manga
@@ProGaming12772 yes i have seen both and i don't see any feats of that whatsoever
ANY OF Y'ALL WHO THINK XENO WINS CAN DEBATE ME RN
Are we using anime/manga Xeno goku or game Xeno goku?
Rimuru, if they ever fought, would already know every technique in ANIME Goku's arsenal. Veldora already has Dragon Ball manga that Rimuru created from his memories, so all he needs is his name and Manas Ciel would give him something to counter him. Same with Zeno Goku, but Rimuru would have a harder time because of his ability to slow time, which Rimuru can't effectively negate, and he would have different powers. Rimuru would have to let Manas Ciel take control and fight Zeno Goku beyond time space in order to get close, because Rimuru, even with his quicker thinking speed, is slower than Manas Ciel, who could gift his allies new abilities to suit their enemies within a second while fighting an enemy.
I'm not going to give an answer to who would win, but LN Rimuru vs Zeno Goku I would pay to watch.
I just started watching REINCARNATED AS A SLIME and im only on episode 15 but He is Basically just a WEAK COPY-CAT of MAJIN-BUU Because MAJIN-BUU ALSO GET STRONGERS THROUGH ABSORBING PEOPLE AND HAS INFINITE-REGENERATION Nothing Goku Cant Handle
@@trendhopper6447 ya anime cannot be compared to The LN rimuru version
@@Seven-y3kfacts
Blud the anime is still considered the early parts of the LN😂
@@DZ-qj5br but in tears of hacks abilities, and overpriced, the anime is not there yet bruv
can you scale web novel rimuru please?
@@Whyistherumgone845 ya that was already on the list of videos I'm about to edit
Dude, one question, did you read the novel or see tensei shitara slime? Rimuru dont use predator to absorb every enemy he fights, great sage only give him an automatic battle option and more than a time Rimuru would lost to enemies with more power than him even if that enemies dont have half of his abilities.
And he cant analyse and copy another characters powers unless he uses predator on them, with the diference of power theres no hax that would save him if you follow the logic of his own anime.
@@kashynku I was talking about the skills he possessed
Even web novel rimuru can't xeno goku, you didn't properly scale all of xeno gokus feats and scaling. Also that scene where if he went ssj4 ,he would cause the destruction of the multiverse,thats a hyperversal level of power
@@uzookafor8721 nah dude I was calling rimuru the anime version, and said anime rimuru gets clapped by Xeno Goku but I said at the end the LN rimuru is a different story, I meant like u guys decide who wins between LN rimuru And Xeno Goku, cause to me both of them are broken
@@Seven-y3k ok
Omni king Goku joins the chat :
Web novel rimuru leaves the chat :
Can you make a video about ultra vegito vs rimuru
Sorry dude I can't, with my current phone as it lags and lets me make one character videos, if I try to make a lot of edits explaining their feats and using videos and images it won't even let me export my videos
At least we people who actually knows something about rimuru and just to let them
If someone else is able to devour an entire universe and recreate means there basically a God and heads up no in dragon ball is countering LN rimuru
Web Novel Rimaru no diffs Xeno Goku. Heck anime Rimaru no diffs Xeno Goku, since he'd just devour Goku.
Rimuru does not have immunity, he is only highly resistant to stuff. In the anime and shit it's been listed as resistances and sometimes nullification. But nullification isn't 100% immunity, plus it doesn't even matter. Sure you could say as a digital life form he can't be touched, but Goku can box dead people and shit, the afterlife in DB is transcendent to the living world meaning it is either higher dimensional, or transcends dimensionality. This would mean Goku can in fact touch Rimuru and his resistances would not work because Goku is not weak like certain characters. Ki is complicated but usually just considered life energy, and he doesn't exactly have a specific resistance for that, you could say it counts as holy or spiritual or natural elements, but it does not matter. God ki is not normal ki, it cannot be sensed by normal people meaning Rimuru wouldn't have an exact way to measure Goku's strength should he go God or higher. God ki has been shown to do some crazy stuff, it can provide an atmosphere allowing Goku to breathe in space and implied to just be superior giving a power boost and other shit. Goku is easily MFTL+ or higher depending on how you wanna do things. Rimuru on the other hand in terms of combat speed, travel speed and everything else isn't even light speed, this is not factoring in suspended world but even with suspended world it doesn't change his speed, it just fucks up the formula making it immeasurable because the formula is not applicable. Rimuru's Beelzebub has been stated to be able to consume the world, the power of nihility is able to recreate the world when combined with imaginary space. This makes him at least multiversal. Goku can destroy the 7th universe in God form at the start of super, later he absorbs that level of power into base and grows stronger and shit. This makes him at minimum universal, but 7th universe isn't our universe, it's got countless number of dimensions like the hyperbolic time chamber where time doesn't flow with the living world and shit. Places like the hell transcending the universe and so on. This makes the feat of being able to destroy the 7th universe as high as multiversal at minimum, and because he got far stronger, he can presumably do that in god form on his own. Jiren in guidebooks and stuff is stated to be above time and therefore abilities like time skip would not work. Since MUI in anime is able to contend with Jiren, that makes him relative to him meaning he transcends time, and destroying stuff like the afterlife and more makes him above dimensionality meaning he transcends space and time, unlike Rimuru who merely commands it. Rimuru's haxes doesn't do much aside from potentially suspended world if he can activate it in time before Goku just fucking one shots him.
Anime Goku ain't touching LN rimuru no matter what ya say bro, only cc Goku and Xeno Goku can hang with him not anime Goku, anime Goku ain't even close
@@Seven-y3k Bro, did you not read nothing? The speed scaling in the two verses are very different, Goku being way above light speed whereas all the Tensuras are getting capped around light speed. The fastest attacks like Velgrynd's shit was only stated to be near light speed, and near light speed attacks are stated to be incredibly fast. Suspended world is stopped time so it does not give you faster speed it just makes your speed immeasurable which isn't exactly a precise speed either. Rimuru does not have any immunity but only high resistance which is essentially just being super durable so Goku can in fact hurt him if he's strong enough. Jiren in guidebook is said to surpass time and that's why Hit isn't able to affect him, MUI rivaling him means his speed is also relative, and F=MA so his punches would be extremely powerful. MUI is essentially Ciel except the more proficient you are in UI the more fast you can respond. Think of it like how Great Sage evolves into Raphael and then Ciel. Buu can scream through dimensions, Goku being much stronger than Z Buu can easily escape Imaginary Space. Sure Rimuru can accelerate his mind millions of times faster than the speed of light, but to be able to traverse an infinite sized universe stated in guidebooks automatically makes your speed infinite, and infinity is much larger than a couple million MPH. It is not even close until you bring up Cosmic Rimuru which is just a joke character.
@@Minizu4 u don't know LN rimuru bruh
@@Seven-y3k I give up. Y'all glaze Rimuru harder than Goku fans glazing Goku.
@@Minizu4 sorry dude 😭🫂
you low-bulled Xeno goku hax
Xeno goku was able to fight against demon god demigra who is well demon king as rimuru and above even
he was gonna to destroy DB histories which are was infinite timelines including infinite Space-time and multiverses
xeno goku hax ( from Xenoverse game and manga )
Absorption ( like rimuru )
Power nullification
Acausality
Afterimage Creation
Non-Physical Interaction
Purification
Paralysis
Dimension creation where he has supreme control
Resistance to Existence and Erasure Regeneration and immortality
Negation
Fusion
Transformations
countless battle skills
Sense
Reality Alteration
Plot Hole Creation
Time manipulation and alteration
Invulnerability
Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time
Infinite Endurance
Infinite Mana
Infinite Ki
Infinite Force
Infinite speed
Immunity negation (Negates opponent
Plot manipulation
immunities)
Miracle Creation
Concept Manipulation/Control
Weapon Creation
Plot manipulation immunity
Attack Reflection
Immortality
Low-tier realiy warping
Dualism
Causality
Possibility
Dimensional Travel
Empathetic manipulation
Matter manipulation
Age manipulation
Corrosion Inducement
Soul manipulation
Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/Powers permanently)
and one more thing Webnovel rimuru is fanmade isnt cannon xenoverse is from toei animation
rimuru was able to trancends space-time
destroy 10k 3D universes
have some broken hax and abilites
but thats isnt enough to beat Xeno goku
rimuru is one of the most formidable? only one of the most formidable?
one of anime Rimuru ultimate skills, Beelzebuth, allows him to eat ANYTHING. instantly. ignoring space and time.
there is no escape to Beelzebuth
xono ku had "time power" which kinda make battle between web novel rimuru and xeno ku a stalemate.
Just scale them rimuru can affect infinite space time but even base super goku is above the concepts of space and time daishensu 4 cho jigen meaning above the concept of dimensionality hell low outer heaven outer kaioh shin planet high outer uni 7 bubble 1 oayer into high outer rimuru ln conplex multi😂😂
Ln rimuru>Wn rimuru, it outscales
Rimuru is like boo but weaker...
nah gang
Is this ai generated?
@@salehassaf6345 nah only the voice, since I don't wanna use my real voice, but the rest I did do them myself
Can you do rimiru vs yogiri takatou
@@raymonddavis9545 ion know but it will be on the list
@@Seven-y3k bet
There is a reason he didn't use game version xeno goku he knows he would humiliate rimuru😂😂
Xeno goku got lose to canon goku 🤣 that boy ahh
It's not fare cuz rimuru is a isekai
then why you comparing then, goku tards need to admit that hes a weak wukong clone and jin mori is superior wukong adaptation
Wtf is this? You better use the ln rimuru volume 21 where he became a 5th true dragon.. stop this bs
Xeno goku is not even outerversal Because according to the new tierning system your virus must have Platonic concepts in order to become high outerversal You have to go beyond Platonic concepts and also influence the real void like Rimuru did so Rimuru is high outerversal In the new tierning system
@@ANIME21524 rimuru can become boundless since he grows stronger each day without even trying
@Seven-y3k Yes, if he becomes stronger than Veldanava Prime or becomes equal to the will of the god Veldanava, he will go straight to the Boundless.
@@ANIME21524 yup
@@Seven-y3k When will the next volume be released?
@@ANIME21524 ion know I don't keep up with the novel, but I only searched information on how op he is in LN
Xeno goku has beat mechikabura who has endless/infinite regeneration and you left out a lot of xeno goku hax
@@mansasnake9226 sigh*, I been seeing comments like this a lot, u guys aren't watching the whole video
Just about any goku would mop the floor with rimuru. Not even a contest.
@@Z1pZ1p3r ha funny, anime Goku gets clapped, gt gets clapped, and only Xeno and cc Goku can hang with rimuru
LN Rimuru > Wn Rimuru > CC goku > Xeno goku > main cannon Anime/Manga Goku
no
@@royalcrewnepal5449 Holy biase
Next time use powerscaleing arguments not feelings and the fact that you think CC goku wins in hax is redicules
@@VonRetex oh i was trying to say comp goku cc is 1-c i compete forgot what it was called for a sec
@@royalcrewnepal5449 and Rimuru is H1A+ they don't even play in the same leauge
Xeno Goku is weaker than UI goku.
Lots of goku tards here, Rimuru is outerversal in the LN.
Theres nothing that can kill him, he has immortality 1-9 types, immortality negation, plot manipulation, possibility manipulation, information manipulation, and more.
Tensura verse is Hyper to Outer with time axis scaling.
Labyrinth has 99+ floors with each having different time axis and all transcends each other. And the labyrinth exists inside of the cardinal world.
Promised land sees everything as fiction including cardinal world.
Rimuru stomps every single version of Goku.
It’s not say that they’re transcendent each other but that there are only a different time axis and Xeno Goku can be easily Outerversal too and outhax Rimuru
@@Voidson1 What? Say it clearly.
Are you trying to say the different floors of the labyrinth don't transcend the other? If so, you're wrong buddy.
Also, on which basis do you claim that zeno Goku is outer and he can outhax Rimuru?
Verse scaling? It'd be good if you gave some coherent scaling proofs for that, what I have written has all needed information for Rimuru to be outer in my og comment.
Now, give me some coherent scaling and then you can talk yo s*it.
@@YuukiKagurazaka246 beats world r>f transcendence = Outer Xeno Goku=Outer and have 7x layered haxs with time power like conceptual manipulation reality warping causality manipulation fate manipulation non existence erasure etc
@@YuukiKagurazaka246 which literally bypass all Rimuru’s resistance
@@Voidson1 "Beats world R>f transcendence" what you mean by that? Are you trying to say that Goku surpasses our world? Or just his verse?
If it's just his verse, I have bad news for you my guy, DB series is just fiction in Tensura verse as it's seen with Veldora reading dragon ball manga and using Goku's moves.
Also, all these Hax you just wrote, Rimuru have them, time manipulation, conceptuality manipulation, probability manipulation, space manipulation, Fate manipulation, Rimuru has reality manipulation as well.
[Fun fact: Gabiru, a low level subordinate of his has Fate manipulation.]
Rimuru transcends time and space completely, he also has turn null which is pure destruction and creation, it was used in the verse creation.
Veldanava used Turn null to create a verse which scales to Hyper-Outer, Rimuru transcends the cardinal world so that naturally pushes him into outer.
Also, what's this "7× layer" thing you're talking about, I thought we stopped using "layers into" for scaling.
Also, what you said is just "Goku out Haxes Rimuru because I said so, beats world, r>f transcendence." Basically a whole bunch of nothing, you didn't give proof as well.
I can give you the proof of the Tensura verse having R>f transcendence:
[ "I had a dream. A very strange dream. In it, I was this very selfish little girl."
Maria, now awake, looked at Gren and smiled.
“Was it fun?”
“Yes. Very much so.” They looked at each other and grinned
“Odd, isn’t it? Why couldn’t I trust in that slime?”
“Hmm, that’s a tough question. I’d like to say ‘Because it was a dream,’ but that’s not a very elegant answer.”
“I’m serious!” ]
This is Granville, a hero who died in volume 11, this is the epilogue where he's in the promised land, where he sees everything that happened in the cardinal world as a dream, and is describing it to his long dead wife, who was also there.
Now, give me something new.
My glorious king goatku easy solos lil bro 😭 🙏
@@kommander1440 💀
FAX PLUS good vid see goku fans why LN beats zeno
And get a sub
@@Lol39373 thanks bruv 👍🏽
You should do Goku vs Simon the digger and anti spiral
@@Not_Goku_ anti spiral op
@@Seven-y3k Ik but you could use cc or Xeno Goku
4:04 so you're saying xeno goku, a being that can manipulate probabilty , time, and even concepts is we know them,
A being so powerful that if he transformed into base it was feared that he would destroy the universe, A being who defeated
demigra who was going to destroy beats world, beats world seeing DBH as fiction and demigra was going to destroy it all
and base cc goku tanked the existence erasing blow easily without knowing his other godly forms (like ssg) existed,
so you're saying a being that has boundary, reality, time, space manipulating and a being who knows that he lives in fiction and can travel to beat's world ( or the real world) and still have power (a being greater than fiction) and let's not talk about capsule corp goku, and cc goku and xeno goku defeated fuu who was in the charisma world, which is Higher than the real world, just watch Kazi's or OfficialDivine's video and you'll see, im not saying xeno goku no diffs , probably mid diff but xeno goku wins, and cc goku is even worse than xeno goku
@@justafan-b5v yes I know what ya saying, in that time lapse, I was talking about how Xeno Goku beats anime rimuru but LN rimuru is a different story cause both of them are broken to be honest, and I personally did not know who would win
@@Seven-y3k ok then gg's for admitting
Are you dmb?? Creator???
Xeno goku from arcade is immune to reality manipulation and goku has two more weapons other than stick and that weapons are on par with Gilgamesh's weapons
XENO GOKU have nullifying powers too idk where you get the scans from
Lil bro calm down jit, I didn't say rimuru wins, I said u guys decide, 😭 did u even watch the full vid, coming at me, I clearly said in the video Xeno beats anime rimuru but not webnovel rimuru and stated both their abilities, in the end I didn't pick a side, making u guys decide 😭
@@Seven-y3kno bro I'm chill...
Btw he has a sword key which nullifies omni potent like abilities
@@DimensionWalker_0 yes rimuru has that kind of ability to where nullifies things but not with a sword, oh and I edited the first comment I said, to make it more understandable
@@Seven-y3k it's ok bro I'm chill...
But if you read more scans it's stated he's immune to erasure or erasing from existence but good video
Rimuru can’t beat Goku, especially Xeno Goku
Anime Goku folded, gt gets folded, only Xeno and cc Goku are a challenge
oh, i only realised by the end that u ment anime rimuru, u are correct, i thought u ment rimuru entierly
Just wait until Zeno finds out about this.
cc goku literally defeated a demon who could destroy all infinite timelines including infinite universes + the real world where dragon balls is just a fantasy and you can only watch it tv or play games . and that demon could do that in his second form alone . cc goku defeated him . last time i checked rimuru novel . he was 10k universes 😂😂 infinity vs 10k doesn’t sound even 00000000.0000000001% . i mean zero will go infinitely but just saying 😂 you have to understand the concept of dragon ball heroes
and u have to understand LN rimuru, i aint gonna say u wrong but xeno goku can get run for his money by LN rimuru
You definitely down played xeno goku. He has fought and defeated reality warpers. Even in the anime of dbz, bibidi is a reality warper. Even the kias cam do so.
Yes definitely, but rimuru does that plus he is almost boundless, plus there is no way to kill him, cause he got all kinds of immortality, even if u kill him somehow, he can reincarnate
@Seven-y3k Actually, there is a way to kill him he's not boundless. He can be obliterated. Both Zeno and anime Goku can do. Well, anime Goku wouldn't do it because he's not that type of person. However, xeno Goku, on the other hand, is different. Xeno Goku raw strength and speed would overwhelm him before he could analyze the attacks.
@@n1njawaldo17 he don't need to analyze when He's already a demon lord in the Light novels, he also has broken wrapping abilities, and anime Goku ain't touching LN rimuru I know that for sure, but Xeno Goku can be a debate, since they both broken, and zeno ain't doing nothing when Xeno Goku stronger then him, and rimuru being compared to Xeno or cc goku
I know this is not real, but he didn't talk about.The it aint goku the form of infinite power.He can reverse time destroy universes and everything he wants😅
so can rimuru
Idc who is the strongest db is funnier to wacth than 1 of the million fcking isekai there are so i dont give a f u c k
@@CallmeVegitoBLUE ok
Rimuru caps at multi+ by turn null and transnding space time. Tensursa cosmo caps at standard single finite universes wuth parallel timelines.
Whereas heroes is above standard dragon ball multiverse where timelines aren't normal ones and have infinite possibilities reside themselves stated in xenoverse 2 and xeno goku>demigra>toki toki who can control concept of space and time in all of dragon ball verse which easily makes him outer by being above concept of space which is correlated to concept of dimensionality. Fusion reborn , there's another statement for single universe in dragon ball having infinite dimensions and you can argue them being very high as well.
Lol goku fans....rimuru ln claps anyone.....or he can just use his generals to do it for him
cap but its your opinion
Is this a rage bait ? if it is or it isn’t I will still fall for it anyway
It seems you rimuru fan seems to throw the tiring system away and use your own logic instead, 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
First of all let me address the part where you talked about anime rimuru and goku from super , when it comes to it , Goku is on a high dimensionality than rimuru anime or light novel but I will address it later, but like talk about both anime scale , according to the tiring system if the opposite side dimensionality is higher than the other , the other party hax will be meaningless because how do you expect a multiverse being to have the power to defeat an outerverse being which is so funny 🤦🏻♂️
Anime rimuru is only and island level characters why Goku from anime is outer because he was able to destroy a thing that transcends dimensionality so yeah by definition he is outer so Goku from super slam in that part
Now let’s address the light novel because I my self have also read the light novel
Rimuru from the light novel is only scale to complex multiverse or hyper at best He still can’t do anything to super Goku no to talk about Xeno goku who is far above his own verse and transcend 3 other world that sees the other as fiction and you have the balls to say rimuru from light novel win against him when he can’t even do anything to super Goku 🤦🏻♂️🙄 like what are you content creators thinking, you won’t even bother to do research about each verse and you guys will just come online and spread misinformation to other fans who don’t know how to scale and also haven’t watch the anime and read the light novel of each verse 🤦🏻♂️
That’s how you all miss lead people 🤷♂️
@@choidaniel7026 nah
@@Seven-y3k rimuru doesn’t have any scale that put him at outer for now because I have already read the light novel , that’s why when I come online and seeing people highballing his feat makes me wonder 🤷♂️.
And by the why do you know how both verse cosmology works ? Do you know how big sdbh cosmology is like bro 😩
@@choidaniel7026 u clearly don't know who LN rimuru is and how op he is so nah this ain't rage bait and I know what I'm saying 😭
@@Seven-y3k
Like bro I have already read the light novel and also watch the anime so what are you still trying to say okay let me give you some Xeno goku scale base on his verse
The time line in sdbh are infinite and each timeline are outer and the time nest transcend the infinite timeline making the time nest high outer , and then the crack of time transcend all of that making it 1 layer into high outer and also inside the time nest , there are infinite history and one history represent the verse as a whole .
When they are talking about history in db they are referring to the story it self which also means the verse itself since demigra was going to destroy all infinite history making him infinite layers into high outer and he was also able to transcend to beat world that sees sdbh as fiction on a conceptual level making him boundless and still got defeated by base form Xeno goku , and Xeno goku is also scale to fuu who was able to transcend to the charisma world that also sees beat word as fiction on a conceptual level making him infinite layers into boundless and fu was still able to go to the fictional Japan where the author came from and also transcend all of the worlds on a conceptual level making it another infinity layer into boundless and also have it in mine that fuu was still able to manipulate the plot of db granting him plot manipulation and in the game he was still able to create his own story mode with the same cosmology as sdbh Granting him author authority . And also Xeno goku have immunity over all hax etc I hope this helps ✌🏻😤
And also if you think I am joking I don’t mind adding you on discord so that I can send you all the scans and statements 🤷♂️😤
Rimuru from the right novel doesn’t have any feat that puts him at low outer not talk to about outer , but Goku from super is already outer in the anime and far greater in the manga and you still have the heart to put him against Xeno Goku who is by far already above his own verse 😂😂🤦🏻♂️ like it’s really funny that why I don’t rely on content creators to scale a character for me because they won’t even bother to do research about the very that was put against there favorite verse
Although the only power scaler I can rely on is kazi and divine because they do a lot of research about the character that they are ask to scale and use statement and feat to back it up along with the tiring system ✌🏻
@@choidaniel7026 I did too did u even watch the vid, I give them feats and when I saw them both being broken I just said u guys decide, that's how I know u didn't watch the whole thing, but anywho ion got discord, ion use that, I just use TH-cam and tik Tok, but u cool tho
Bro. Imagine being so strong that the only person stronger than you is you 💀also imagine if xeno and cc Goku fused
@@Yaboygogeta bro cc Goku and Xeno Goku fused(bro made a scary character 💀)
@@Seven-y3k exactly. He would actually solo 110% of anime
@@Yaboygogeta also if he's ever died, he will come back because xeno was created by the supreme Kai of time and since chronoa got stronger, xeno might get an upgrade but this is just a maybe
@@flowclown9179 lol
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@@Apex15699 thank u my friend 👍🏽😊