We got our first look at an early version of EVE Vanguard, the extraction-style first-person shooter that aims to do for EVE Online what Dust 514 could not. Previewed by Leana Hafer.
@@TheLordboki and much like Planetside 2 on PS4 it doesnt have anyone playing it. Will they make same mistake and release on 1 console? New mistakes like since its completely free gonna have more hackers than Tarkov? Will the Wiggle that killed Tarkov repeat itself?
Could be great as an alternative to certain wreck looting. Imagine whenever a supercapital got destroyed in Eve, you couldn't loot it like normal from space, but instead it created an instance in Vanguard for people to locate and loot certain components and/or rare modules. Would create incentives for corps to have branches in Vanguard and make the stakes very high in terms of real world value.
Which will invite masses of hackers into the game to make sure they acquire said loot to sell for real world money, killing the game faster than Tarkov on trenbolone.
Would be cooler to be able to access vanguard maps thru eve and actually launched vanguard from eve for example get bonus pre time when you actually launch near the planet in eve...
@@in_faustianwinter It was very very limited due to the PS3 at the time, so it could only handle BF2 style gamemodes, but it was a very fun and nice RPG experience. It had a 'ark survival' sort of equipment system, stuff you lose, you actually lose, but items are cheap to replenish and is plentiful, if you do well you can even 'loot' a tank off of your enemies to customize and deploy for your own (only to have it destroyed or spent after deploying it). They had a MTX system for this though so P2W can literally buy their way if they wanted to, but they needed the skill points and levels to do so effectively, but otherwise ends up being a 'cash cow' for skilled players to target and loot as any item you bring into battle can be lost and is a valid 'loot' pool reward. If someone has a loadout for 50x suits/weapons/gear and died 50 times, then the loot pool will randomize gained a lot of that into it. If you use 'stock' stuff from preset loadout (given for free but lowest stats) then it doesn't get added to the pool. The better your 'gameplay' scoring the more looting 'rights' you have to the pool.
This game is incredibly hard to make but Im' happy to see them giving this a go. The concept is a dream of so many developers since the first Battlefield days.
Imagine a world where an EVE online captain can hire an EVE Vanguard pilot to extract so and so item for the captain so they can build something while lining the pilot's pocket or arsenal
that would make the game so great to play again. Its a whole other take on MMO's and stepping foot into the possibility of truly immersive open world games.
@@user-tt3xu2hf5b lmao this is a separate game essentially...Star Citizen is actually going to be the one to be the true, open-world FPS scifi/space MMO
@edzbienen expanding to console is one of the best ways to expand the Eve community. Right now the community is so niche (almost inbred) no growth. If you do not want to see your game close down eventually due to lack of a large compatible player base then of if you want to see the game improve in anyways you need to grow the player base. Keeping it PC only will not do that
I've really wanted to see a couple of corporations go at it over a planet in a star system and while there is this huge space battle going on there is an equally massive 'Planetside' like battle going on on the ground. Of course the player count required to make this happen is insane though.
Fights with a thousand people per side are a fairly regular occurrence. I've been in some big fights in Planetside, and none of them hold a candle to a big Eve battle.
Ironically an extraction shooter is a perfect fit for the EVE format. Just like the MMO, you die you lose everything that was on you at the time, while doing missions that influence Faction Warfare and reward you with cash.
Looks nice, but not sure a squad based looter shooter in the style of Tarkov best represents the Eve mass battle experience that the brand is best known for.
It's intended to expand into the bigger wars later down the line, it's supposed to do so organically instead of just being some mode you load into. Also, the extraction "looter shooter" gameplay fits EVE perfectly; it's a cutthroat fight over resources where trust is always put into question, which is exactly what EVE is.
This is pretty interesting since if its a module, it does mean it IS a separate game from EVE Online, as the latter is not a UE5 game, but it would be a gamemode attached to EVE Online and runs as a separate client. So in a sense you could play EVE Online and EVE Vanguard at the same time if you wanted to?
thats not footage of Dust 514. thats a trailer for a game that was supposed to replace Dust, but was dropped in the end. its a cinematic trailer too, not gameplay
the heck are you talking about? This isn't Dust 514 to begin with... that's Eve Vanguard, a relaunch to dust 514 that was released on 2013 but shut down 3 years later due to low player count...
@crossltg8329 at 0:41 it talks about CCP's 1st attempt at a shooter experience that Dust 514 and instead of showing actual gameplay from Dust 514, it showed an old scene from a Dust 514 trailer.
Dust does not die because of the low number of players but it dies because EVE does not port it into PS4. A few months after PS4 came out, the number of players playing Dust 514 started to decrease until it dead
@@edzbienen à voir avec le temps, mais les bases de Dust514 ont l'air d'être pris en compte par les devs. Je suis pressé de sa sortie et qu'il devienne accessible à tous 😁
@@edzbienen Vanguard a l'air très "barebone" présentement. Je sais que c'est early access, mais si ce que nous voyons représente le 1/5 de ce que le jeu sera, c'est terminé. Le truc c'est que y'a plusieurs extraction shooter qui vont bientôt sortir, même Bungie fait Marathon. Donc je ne suis pas convaincu que c'est la formule gagnante... Surtout si on se promène dans une petite map où il n'y a absolument rien de dynamique (intéraction avec la map, détails dans le background, changement dynamique de l'environment, features comme une extraction animé, ou un drop pod en début de game). Bref le jeu manque de "wow" et de présentation. Ambience cool, mais peu d'éléments. Un DUST 514 qui sortirait aujourd'hui se ferait très probablement remarquer assez vite. Les gens de Battlefield seraient intrigué, les gens de CODs chercheraient quelque chose de nouveau et PlanetSide... Bah y'a rien qui y passe près donc c'est sur que les joueurs iraient essayer le jeu.
Guys, give it a chance. It’s free. You all will blindly dump money on a pricey pre-order that likely will turn out to be a busted game. This is free and you lose nothing by at least giving it a shot. These kinds of devs need players to justify even trying to make this kind of ambitious game work
It was done before in dust 514. Players on ps3 could join eve corps in the mmo and fight for planets while people on PC could provide air support from space with special modules. So both pc and ps3 were working in tandem to secure resources for an alliance or Corp.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Dust 514 was a PS3 exclusive despite Eve's player base being mainly PC players only. It also unfortunately released 1 day and 6 months before the release of the PS4.
It'd be cool if they eventually included ideas like ship boarding actions, where Vanguard players get sent to board ships controlled by Capsuleers to sabotage them.
The idea of having an on ground presence and space presence that go hand in hand is super exciting imagine having “home planets” assault teams ect that are reliant on the capsuleers for artillery support as well as infil exfil. A full circle interstellar simulator
The fact you could be irl over the planet with your EO account on your second monitor while fighting on foot is insane. Casually call in orbital "assistance".
Would be cool if one of the missions would be to salvage a destroyed pod in an asteroid belt for the cybernetic implants, or on a jumpgate following the same premise.
@@MrDwightSchruteNo it doesn’t. It’s a knock off looking to capitalize on the momentum of games like Exoprimal. CCP just recently let go of some staff to save money. They are seeing a decline. This game is a vomit piece move to appease shareholders for more investment money. They balance out, the game project folds and they do it again if necessary. This game will never see the light of day. It’s a golden fleece for shareholders. Hilmar is short sighted. Dust 514 is a goldmine that they had no clue what to do with.
this might be the thing all capsuleers were waiting for like a decade. but the most important question is still unanswered: how are the economies and environments linked?
What if you can insert vanguards into an enemy's ship so you can start adding ewar debuffs inside of it by causing havok and killing the security forces inside of it. Like the ship's capacitor starts dying out, locking becomes slower and all sorts of sabotage, and once the ship gets blownup in universe you extract via mini personal jump drives or something fancy like that.
With 6000 game programmers laided off in the last 2 months they should be able to get enough talent, question is will they have the witherall to stay at it as people leave to play Space Marines 2?
ccp betrayed every dust Soldier when they took the service down now they're trying to win us back by giving us a PC upgraded version of dust514 That is exactly what Vanguard is dust but in PC form
Finally Dust 514 is acknowledged!!!
That game is my child hood
Dust 514 was the best! Battlefield could never!
Long wait here...no other fps has fit the bill since Dust...
But isnt this a Tarkoved Dust 514? And FREE. We gonna see "The Wiggle that killed Tarkov" all over again and in much much higher numbers.
Omfg where my logi's at?!
Dust 514 was so ahead of it's time.
MAG*
It was kinda like planetside 2, except it shot itself in the foot when it released as a Playstation 3 exclusive.
@@TheLordboki and much like Planetside 2 on PS4 it doesnt have anyone playing it. Will they make same mistake and release on 1 console? New mistakes like since its completely free gonna have more hackers than Tarkov? Will the Wiggle that killed Tarkov repeat itself?
Existentially scarred us to wander for a paralleled gaming experience for a decade
@@kintsugi3932I miss MAG and Dust.
Could be great as an alternative to certain wreck looting. Imagine whenever a supercapital got destroyed in Eve, you couldn't loot it like normal from space, but instead it created an instance in Vanguard for people to locate and loot certain components and/or rare modules. Would create incentives for corps to have branches in Vanguard and make the stakes very high in terms of real world value.
Which will invite masses of hackers into the game to make sure they acquire said loot to sell for real world money, killing the game faster than Tarkov on trenbolone.
This is big stretching.
Would be cooler to be able to access vanguard maps thru eve and actually launched vanguard from eve for example get bonus pre time when you actually launch near the planet in eve...
Dust 514 was badass
Yea but this isn't dust 514 its reskinned Destiny. The map lay out looks like cod gameplay. Terrible.
Dust 514 was awesome, clunky as hell -- but awesome.
Dust 514 was amazing. Like an rpg crossed with battlefield in a halo theme
Could be remembering wrong, but wasn't it really similar to Planetside??
@@in_faustianwinteryeah was similar
Yea it didnt quite ever progress to be that. It was aiming for more but then meh
@@in_faustianwinter It was very very limited due to the PS3 at the time, so it could only handle BF2 style gamemodes, but it was a very fun and nice RPG experience.
It had a 'ark survival' sort of equipment system, stuff you lose, you actually lose, but items are cheap to replenish and is plentiful, if you do well you can even 'loot' a tank off of your enemies to customize and deploy for your own (only to have it destroyed or spent after deploying it).
They had a MTX system for this though so P2W can literally buy their way if they wanted to, but they needed the skill points and levels to do so effectively, but otherwise ends up being a 'cash cow' for skilled players to target and loot as any item you bring into battle can be lost and is a valid 'loot' pool reward.
If someone has a loadout for 50x suits/weapons/gear and died 50 times, then the loot pool will randomize gained a lot of that into it. If you use 'stock' stuff from preset loadout (given for free but lowest stats) then it doesn't get added to the pool. The better your 'gameplay' scoring the more looting 'rights' you have to the pool.
For me it was the closest thing to having Halo for PlayStation
This game is incredibly hard to make but Im' happy to see them giving this a go. The concept is a dream of so many developers since the first Battlefield days.
Star Citizen says hello
Imagine a world where an EVE online captain can hire an EVE Vanguard pilot to extract so and so item for the captain so they can build something while lining the pilot's pocket or arsenal
Don't get your hopes up, setting the expectations too high is just going to lead to disappointment.
that would make the game so great to play again. Its a whole other take on MMO's and stepping foot into the possibility of truly immersive open world games.
That was what Dust was supposed to be.
this is exactly how Dust played out
@@user-tt3xu2hf5b lmao this is a separate game essentially...Star Citizen is actually going to be the one to be the true, open-world FPS scifi/space MMO
If you rewatch the first John Wick movie, one of the henchman is playing dust 514
No way 😂
Okay... Lets try this again.
Hopefully it will stick now that it will be on PC and not a PS3 exclusive... that was a weird choice.
They should’ve known that would’ve failed.
in fact it was the biggest mistake to release Dust 514 on PS3, they did the right choice to make this one for PC, the EVE community is on PC after all
@@edzbienen Why they dont expand the EVE series to other platforms??
@edzbienen expanding to console is one of the best ways to expand the Eve community. Right now the community is so niche (almost inbred) no growth. If you do not want to see your game close down eventually due to lack of a large compatible player base then of if you want to see the game improve in anyways you need to grow the player base. Keeping it PC only will not do that
@@veca863 They tried mobile.
Dust was such a great game, used to play it all the time
I've really wanted to see a couple of corporations go at it over a planet in a star system and while there is this huge space battle going on there is an equally massive 'Planetside' like battle going on on the ground.
Of course the player count required to make this happen is insane though.
You underestimate the absolute absurd willpower Eve Online players have
(to gather the ppl required)
Fights with a thousand people per side are a fairly regular occurrence. I've been in some big fights in Planetside, and none of them hold a candle to a big Eve battle.
You had me until it was an extraction shooter.
Extraction shooters are a hot bed of cheating and abuse.
Same, no interest in that kind of thing. This is going to flop.
Ironically an extraction shooter is a perfect fit for the EVE format. Just like the MMO, you die you lose everything that was on you at the time, while doing missions that influence Faction Warfare and reward you with cash.
Hackers paradise.
Skill issue@@mechaslav8520
To be honest Dust 514 design looked far better for the weapons and dropsuit, those here are kinda disapointing with these flashy colors
MMOFPS are under explored
It's utterly criminal that Starcraft doesn't have one.
still sad that defiance was closed down tbh.
Planetside 2 is currently the only survivor of that entire genre.
Looks nice, but not sure a squad based looter shooter in the style of Tarkov best represents the Eve mass battle experience that the brand is best known for.
Exactly. Why Tarkovize the game when all Dust 514 needed really was to not just be on ONE single console.
It's intended to expand into the bigger wars later down the line, it's supposed to do so organically instead of just being some mode you load into. Also, the extraction "looter shooter" gameplay fits EVE perfectly; it's a cutthroat fight over resources where trust is always put into question, which is exactly what EVE is.
The idea that Eve is only about giant wars is nullsec propaganda
Dust 514 was amazing, fun and revolutionary
Oooooo myyyyy godshhhhhh seeing that name dust 514 oooo memories
Dust 514... home...
Dust was shut down because it was a ps3 exclusive at the end of the generation. Vanguard is looking sweet.
This is pretty interesting since if its a module, it does mean it IS a separate game from EVE Online, as the latter is not a UE5 game, but it would be a gamemode attached to EVE Online and runs as a separate client. So in a sense you could play EVE Online and EVE Vanguard at the same time if you wanted to?
The developers confirmed yes you can
Dust 514 was badass. Loved that Logistics play.
thats not footage of Dust 514. thats a trailer for a game that was supposed to replace Dust, but was dropped in the end. its a cinematic trailer too, not gameplay
the heck are you talking about? This isn't Dust 514 to begin with... that's Eve Vanguard, a relaunch to dust 514 that was released on 2013 but shut down 3 years later due to low player count...
@crossltg8329 at 0:41 it talks about CCP's 1st attempt at a shooter experience that Dust 514 and instead of showing actual gameplay from Dust 514, it showed an old scene from a Dust 514 trailer.
This doesn't look much like Dust at all....
Dust does not die because of the low number of players but it dies because EVE does not port it into PS4. A few months after PS4 came out, the number of players playing Dust 514 started to decrease until it dead
Dust 514 was the precursor to a whole genre. Glad we’re bringing the idea back
ancien joueur de Dust514 j'attendais cette "suite" avec impatience, alors j'espère qu'il rencontrera un succès mérité 🤞🏽
malheureusement je ne suis pas convaincu que ce dernier ait l'air à la hauteur d'un Dust 514...
@@edzbienen à voir avec le temps, mais les bases de Dust514 ont l'air d'être pris en compte par les devs. Je suis pressé de sa sortie et qu'il devienne accessible à tous 😁
@@edzbienen Vanguard a l'air très "barebone" présentement. Je sais que c'est early access, mais si ce que nous voyons représente le 1/5 de ce que le jeu sera, c'est terminé.
Le truc c'est que y'a plusieurs extraction shooter qui vont bientôt sortir, même Bungie fait Marathon. Donc je ne suis pas convaincu que c'est la formule gagnante... Surtout si on se promène dans une petite map où il n'y a absolument rien de dynamique (intéraction avec la map, détails dans le background, changement dynamique de l'environment, features comme une extraction animé, ou un drop pod en début de game). Bref le jeu manque de "wow" et de présentation. Ambience cool, mais peu d'éléments.
Un DUST 514 qui sortirait aujourd'hui se ferait très probablement remarquer assez vite. Les gens de Battlefield seraient intrigué, les gens de CODs chercheraient quelque chose de nouveau et PlanetSide... Bah y'a rien qui y passe près donc c'est sur que les joueurs iraient essayer le jeu.
this is why they should have NEVER cancelled walking in stations. they could have combined that with this and made the universe more dynamic.
That's the communities fault. They cried for months until it was cancelled.
the earlier dust 514 was much better than this
how is this game?
@@OneTomato so far crap
@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec how many hours you have on it ?
@@OneTomato witch one are you referring to
Guys, give it a chance. It’s free. You all will blindly dump money on a pricey pre-order that likely will turn out to be a busted game.
This is free and you lose nothing by at least giving it a shot. These kinds of devs need players to justify even trying to make this kind of ambitious game work
Interesting an FPS that connects to an MMO? I'm interested
It was done before in dust 514. Players on ps3 could join eve corps in the mmo and fight for planets while people on PC could provide air support from space with special modules. So both pc and ps3 were working in tandem to secure resources for an alliance or Corp.
@@handlesaresupergheybut this new game will work in console? ps4 or ps5?
@@llllllllll548 Idk about this one but dust 514 did
@@llllllllll548 No, its going to be PC only. Being on console was one of Dust's biggest mistake.
@@llllllllll548 kaizuka Sniper?
Fun fact: A prototype EVE FPS is featured in the final scene of John Wick 1, with special thanks to CCP in the credits of the movie.
Isnt it dust 514?? the guy was using a gallente assault rifle
@@poncesauriorex3357 Technically it was probably "Legion" which was the first reboot prototype after Dust that CCP tried to launch (but didn't)
No conquering star systems? You could fight wars and conquer systems in Dust 514.
Despite all the crap and bugs that it had, DUST was truly a work of art.
Then why did it fail lol
@@BryceCzirr-jz7jumainly nostalgic
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Dust 514 was a PS3 exclusive despite Eve's player base being mainly PC players only. It also unfortunately released 1 day and 6 months before the release of the PS4.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Could say the same about TitanFall 1.
Wrong place, wrong time.
This comparison is the best compliment a game of this type can receive.
don't even play eve but this would be so sick
It'd be cool if they eventually included ideas like ship boarding actions, where Vanguard players get sent to board ships controlled by Capsuleers to sabotage them.
that is the Division DARK ZONE at EVE online =.=
Caldari DropShip Pilot Reporting For Duty!!! LFG!
When is it releasing? I'd give it a try
Used to play DUST for a bit back in the days
How did they go from dust514 to this garage dust514 was literally the space version of battlefield
The idea of having an on ground presence and space presence that go hand in hand is super exciting imagine having “home planets” assault teams ect that are reliant on the capsuleers for artillery support as well as infil exfil. A full circle interstellar simulator
this was EXACTLY what Dust 514 was supposed to be 10 years ago
The fact you could be irl over the planet with your EO account on your second monitor while fighting on foot is insane. Casually call in orbital "assistance".
Dust had so much potential
Almost 2024 and these Graphics look like its from 2014.
Bro its pre alpha footage…
Haven’t enjoyed a shooter nearly as much as dust hopefully this scratches that itch
Would be cool if one of the missions would be to salvage a destroyed pod in an asteroid belt for the cybernetic implants, or on a jumpgate following the same premise.
Now bring Valkyrie back!
Dust was a snipers paradise
One universe, one war.
Nixnova here lets dust off our old fingers and come back to eve baby
DUST 514
Honestly prefer if it was like dust 514
How do the devs not see what we’re seeing here. I’d be shocked if this succeeds.
What are YOU seeing? Game looks fine. Average, but fine.
@@MrDwightSchruteNo it doesn’t. It’s a knock off looking to capitalize on the momentum of games like Exoprimal. CCP just recently let go of some staff to save money. They are seeing a decline. This game is a vomit piece move to appease shareholders for more investment money. They balance out, the game project folds and they do it again if necessary. This game will never see the light of day. It’s a golden fleece for shareholders. Hilmar is short sighted. Dust 514 is a goldmine that they had no clue what to do with.
Looks better than anything COD or Battlefield did.... At least it has real connections to the main game.
word, what about the eve community says "extraction shooter" it's completely tone def.
This better come to ps5
I'm really hope that's not final UI... :(
its pre-alpha it will change a lot more than likely
imo the ui is fine. maybe could use a few more colors to make specific things stand out. Shapes and spacing is decent though.
@@Jeff55369 Using a square rotated by 45 degrees is too primitive a trick, they could have come up with something more interesting.
@@Ho1eMak3r what are you expecting? octagons? I'm just glad it doesn't look like circular mobile ui.
No vehicles? No dropships? No playing.
this might be the thing all capsuleers were waiting for like a decade.
but the most important question is still unanswered:
how are the economies and environments linked?
They should ve continued developing project nova tbh
wait.. its an fps now :0
holy molly
We Dusty
What if you can insert vanguards into an enemy's ship so you can start adding ewar debuffs inside of it by causing havok and killing the security forces inside of it. Like the ship's capacitor starts dying out, locking becomes slower and all sorts of sabotage, and once the ship gets blownup in universe you extract via mini personal jump drives or something fancy like that.
This is the worst suggestion I've ever heard
@@freezedriedicecream Your butt's the worst suggestion I've ever heard.
Yes another extraction shooter!
Lets go Dust Vanguard
Will this game be released for PS4?
Don't make it a exclusive and make it free2play and see how many people plays it.
Sounds like they're making the same mistake of going to slow with integration into eve.
Will the Imperfects be back?? 🤔
Another extraction shooter yet.
A pity.
The devs say its not an extraction shooter. The gameplay footage seen does a bad job at showing that.
JUST GIVE US DUST514 thats all!
Did LevelCap change the way he talks?
Any confirmation of which platforms this will be available on?
Only for Playstation of course! They cant wait to make the same mistake as before!
It's being added to Eve Online's PC launcher as a module to log into alternatively to the normal game. So PC only.
I'd play eve if they had the option to unload marines onto a planet and planet like features, not just factories
Beacon seems like as in the division. Single players get shafted
CCP definitely knows how to incentivize staying alive.
This sounds outstanding
Wasn’t there another girl that also actively likes him? The shy red-haired girl? Like has the fool not see the signs there too?
Dust 514 was better that this :(
The IGN "journalists" probably never even played DUST 514.
Why did Dust 514 die?
It was a PS3 exclusive game a couple of months before the PS4 came out, so it lost the playerbase at some point
CANNOT WAIT
Star citizen can learn something from these guys
extraction shooter? well there goes all my interest...
Here we go again
Dust/division dark zone
Finalmente Graças a Deus , GP MACHINE melhor tank Br estára presente 🎁 novamente 😊
estarei presente também, o melhor railgun sniper br
Nossa mãe não sabia que havia brs que jogaram EVE DUST
@@veca863 Joguei muito Dust 514 no ps3!!! Eu era da Nyan San o7
this game will come to ps4 ? 😢
unlikely since its a module from EVE... which is only on pc
How long the game is gonna to be in ruin by hackers?
no heavy ? 😢 no logi ? no vehicule is not dust.
With 6000 game programmers laided off in the last 2 months they should be able to get enough talent,
question is will they have the witherall to stay at it as people leave to play Space Marines 2?
ccp betrayed every dust Soldier when they took the service down now they're trying to win us back by giving us a PC upgraded version of dust514 That is exactly what Vanguard is dust but in PC form
Still better than the Squadron 42 from Scam Citizen
poor kid bought into a scam and cant get past it
lmao Squadron 42 didn't even been released yet what are you talking about ?? xD
You'r just blindly bashing it
15 FPS ?
Unreal Engine 5, bro. Ofcourse it's 15 fps.
GIVE IT TO ME
Do we really need another fps
or another Tarkov
Yeasaaaaassss!!!!!
looks clunky
Looks like a dust 514 battle royal mode
no its a Tarkoved Dust
just bring back dust 514 or project spartan...
John Wick 1