Michael Laws Exposes the Flaws in New Zealand’s Education System
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- Michael Laws exposes the flaws in New Zealand’s education system.
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This is such fantastic news. It's perfectly reasonable for parents to expect complete transparency regarding the education of their children and the progress their children are making. The school reports are of no help because they offer no insight into a child's academic achievement. How dare they try and stop our kids from achieving and understanding how unbelievably good it feels when you do.
Standardized testing is wrong says a professor, well her degree is obviously worthless then.
Primary schools have NOT been concentrating on their core mission of literacy and numeracy for quite some time.
Add-on activities have been allowed to take more and more time and energy away from core mission activities.
Eventually the core,being neglected withers and starts to rot.
Teachers lose competence and diligence in teaching the core.
The peripheral activities puff up and fill the time.
Puffery…. often political or agenda based,and time filling activities prevail in our classrooms.
Education fails while agenda based indoctrination reigns supreme.
At long last a voice of truth !
Great, time someone told the truth. To much dead timber in our education system. Better selection is required of teachers.
Typical of Labour and the teachers union.
If you don't monitor outcomes you can't be held accountable.
Suffer the little children
Schools at the moment treat children as if they belong to them and not the parents.
Geoff you have that the wrong way round. So many parents relinquish their kids to be raised by the schools. They are expecred to feed, cloth, provide for their basic needs and then try and educate them. I would challenge you to spend a week in a classroom and see for yourself.
@@ryanking8960That too. But having had many children go through the school system, I have struck the attitude I mentioned, especially when you challenge something.
@@geoffstokesthanks for the reply. I can only speak for my experience. I personally have never had an issue garnering information about my kids progress from their schools. I get the regular updates, and if I want more information I ask, and I get the information I need. But not all schools are made equal. :)
@@ryanking8960 my wife is an assistant principal . From what I see it’s alarming how children can be privy to conversations with their parents while degrading their teacher . It shows when the kid goes to school and starts telling the teacher how it’s going to be . Overwhelmingly it seems parents just want the kids to have a babysitter for the day and although some are raised in highly dysfunctional homes these uneducated parents who have a history of inter generational welfare dependency seem to become keyboard warriors toward a well meaning teacher who has to deal each day with a parents mouthy and entitled child who has learnt behaviour from substandard parenting . Good children end up missing out because trash parents send delinquent children to school and the teacher ends ups wasting precious time dealing with behaviours . It seems there isn’t an education problem , there’s a parenting problem in NZ .
I can guarantee you the school doesn’t want your child for any more than 6 hours and is very happy to send the kid back to you for the next 18 hours . If you don’t like the way schools are then prob best you home school and see how long you last or if you have any expertise at all to get the job even half done . Let’s see 30 kids turn up to your place 5 days a week and see how well you go with creating a structured environment while dealing with entitled parents who don’t want the job but still want you to do it their way 😂
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!
Basic rule: if you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it. Ah, oh dear, it’s stressful on dear Petal. If people are going to function as useful citizens, stress is a fundamental part of life and the sooner they get used to it the better.
Look at the nations with the best education results. All use standardized testing. Argument over.
Do they?
Testing the kids allso tests how good the teachers are .
That's why the teacher's union doesn't like the testing. !
Teacher's have a big job, parents also have responsibility to have their kid learning ready with manners and routine.
At school in the 50s, we did testing twice a year
Same concept at many government agencies where there's no marker of performance or achievement.. Different governments come and go but the blob goes on
So true!
Primary Teacher here. Michael is right - heavy pushback in schools on standardized testing. We were discouraged from using easttle testing, and even then, the easttles we would use wouldn't be standardized across the entire school for consistency.
The bizarre thing is, the "tests" we would give students in Math, were a bizarre task that kids could work in groups with and talk with during, effectively rendering any form of assessment on their individual ability useless. We were told exactly the same in meetings - testing puts undue stress on children and affects their ability to work to the best of their ability. When teachers would point out that we're meant to b preparing students for the testing conditions they'll encounter in older years, the feedback fell on deaf ears.
For the last few years I've taught in an international school in Singapore. Standardized testing is the norm here, and the 11yo kids I teach are confident with the process, parents are engaged and supportive of their child's learning, and hate to say it, but academically, they're miles ahead of the majority of NZ kids.
Multiple factors go into why that is, including poor teacher practice and content knowledge for sure. The teaching to the test argument is also a tricky one, but as the general rule goes - students sit a standardized diagnostic test at the start of a unit, teachers analyse that data to identify each child's gaps. U sort your learning groups based off that, then plan your 6-7week unit to teach to those gaps -responsive teaching - then at the end of the unit, students sit the standardized summative assessment which measures the growth and achievement, and provides concrete data for parents - who should also have access to the diagnostic in the first place so they can help their kids at home on target areas.
Under that system, both teachers and parents can look at summative results and then identify any contributing factors to achievement:
- absence
- help at home
- concentration during lessons
- teacher competence
- student learning needs
If this structure is implemented consistently with reading, writing and math, then student achievement is accountable, and reasons can be more easily identified for explaining where success/failure is happening.
Teachers need release blocks to have the time to do these things. Unfortunately for Primary teachers in nz, release is minimal-to-nonexistent, and when you throw in several meetings a week outside the 830-3pm of classroom time, plus sport coaching, school musical organising, lunchtime duties, discos, extra-curricular activities etc that get put on teachers as well, finding time to do their core role is nearly impossible to sustain.
Testing? Aargh. We may lose our over-arching educational achievement - at least 40% illiteracy. Numeracy? Worse.
U r the greatest
Testing equals accountability, that's why some teachers don't like it... Sad they were ever allowed to not have an obligation to demonstrate their own capabilities with evidence to both the education system and the kids family.
Loved this!
Problems at AUT
Of course they asked the NZEI. The NZEI, as the teacher union, always claim there are no poor teachers in New Zealand, but parents know that is just not true.
Life is one big test.
What happens in the worst case is that teachers are forever testing and not teaching....
They use the PAT tests and asTTLe tests to determine the level they are at so they can then teach them and bring them up to a particular standard.
If they had E Leaning, they wouldn't need testing and smart kids wouldn't be slowed down from advancing And slower leaning children can get the help they need
The previous govts prevented parents parenting and teachers teaching. The current govt has zero majority mandate without the little ones licking aloud
Testing, actual standards ie real life, shows boys as superior. Can have that.
Let’s be honest, they want the kids to turn out stupid.
Yes, stupid kids make left voters
Commenting as a just retired principal and teacher of 40 years experience in NZ and ten in international education.
First, no school I know of or have associated with does not use regular standardised testing, either PAT or Easttle, two of the options mentioned by the minister. Neither test is new, both have been around for a good number of years. From hearsay there must be schools who do not use standardised testing or at least the ones mentioned.
Second, how those results are shared. Well it seems some schools do not share the results as aggregated data with their communities. This is strange because data of this nature has had to be reported at BOT meetings, an open meeting with the community for years.
Further on this theme it seems that some schools cannot have been sharing this data with parents re their own children. That also is strange eAsttle is set up to do this via password and has all the test results for a particular child at all schools they have attended, accessible by child held password. As a teacher I always encouraged parents to look the day tests were done.
It seems to me that for the majority of schools this government directive will mean business as usual. Well it should. So I blame schools for not being open with their test results with parents. This would have so easily been solved by making it an ERO compliance item.
For the majority of schools or at least 100% of the ones I have led or worked in this will mean no or little change. Well done National for mandating what most schools already do. I do wonder that it may be those schools whose children are very low who have hidden this data from communities and parents. The sad thing is that when survey all parents no matter the community all say they want to know where their child is at.
Sadly a minority of schools have led to a situation where this became politicised.
Ms Van Velden. It is so hard to get immediate typographical errors corrected on this 'ground swell' financed site. Massey and in some ways Vic, Wgtn are even more PC and devoid of standards than AUT.
Standardised tests are and have always been part of good teaching.
Teachers use "Triangulation of data". This is normally, a standardised test, formative notes and planning. The formative notes are the best type of assessment as a standardised test is often delivered to the whole class at once (in the case of E-Asttle and PAT) and can sometimes label kids wrongly if they are having a bad day. With proper formative assessment teachers make "Overall Teacher Judgements" (OTJs). If that child who performed poorly but the teacher knows they can perform better, they can rely on their quality teaching and assessment.
My point is, this standardised testing is already happening. it's nothing new. What it IS doing, is ensuring that every school has some consistency so if child A moves from Invercargill to Whanagarei, their new teacher will understand where he is in his learning. It's a good thing. You won't hear the teachers who are already doing this complaining. You'll probably only hear politicians complaining.
In regard to the phonics testing, our New Entrant teachers in NZ are incredible. I've never met a bad one. They will deliver this with the professionalism and care that our little learners need.
A permanent record.. for their future social credit system
Why bother asking these so- called experts. Waste of time!!!
Michael, by over simplifying the issues as to why children are not making progress to, its the teachers fault, is letting every other person who has a stake in that child's education off the hook. It is the typical modern mindset of let's blame everyone else for our problems. Let is try find a scapegoat for our failings as a society. You want to fix the kids. Fix the adults first. By the way I am for standardised testing.
X + Y x Z = WTF?
I think the opposite Micheal and think you are a gutless fellow traveller. This government is a far left in many ways Chinese Communist supporting government. I have been prepared to give Erica and Van Velden the doubt so far and in terms of Van Velden, almost alone she has done quite a lot of commendable if still only NEP type policies that are definite improvements and in spite of Winston's generally 100 x more sensible US aligned foreign policy fighting all the time pro Shanghai Collins who in leftist derogatory times describes the P8s as anti sub or surveillance planes the standard left line The P8s are full spectrum strike and reconnaissance planes like five eyes a central contribution to US global defence coverage and with Chinese SSBN, auxiliaries and embassy operators out their global coverage and deterrence is certainly required by the P8 squadron which are all else electronic sentries able to deliver RAAF P8 F135 and F18 to regional targets. Ma Van Velden enquiry into the appalling 2nd Auckland COVID lockdown which directly and and as a result of the appalling lottery and COVID detention, indirectly drove many of NZ best citizens, returnees out
No, Michael Laws is the opposite of "gutless" because he calls out the appalling education performance left by Hipkins and Ardern which the NZEI and academics are happy to ignore.
Can I ask you a question? - That question is - " Do you know why the US Marine Corp landed so many troops here in NZ in the early 1940's, prior to embarking on the Island hopping attacks toward Japan"? Please think very carefully about your answer, if you are going to respond.
@@robinlecomte1242 I do not doubt there was an actual invasion threat from Japan in 1941. MacArthur will have positioned his forces not only for training purposes but also counter the most likely Japanese landing places. Any logical conventional invader of NZ would have attacked straight into Auckland and Wellington harbours.
Indeed the US Army war plan for the Pacific from 1900 to 1940 called for the immediate invasion and incorporation of NZ into the United States of defenceless socialist NZ. Indeed the Great White Fleet despatched on a global tour by President Theodore Roosevelt in 1908 after he apparently read as article by the way Mahan in Scientific America pointing out the need to expand the US empire to include NZ after Admiral Fisher had decided to withdraw the RN fleet from Sydney to the North Sea leaving NZ defenceless and vulnerable dependent on the dubious Anglo Japanese naval treaty. Indeed the Great White Fleets arrival in Auckland simultaneously from both harbours in 1908 was the actual invasion of NZ for a week while the US assessed the state of socialist NZ which apparently they found in 1908 much better than expected s tjr fleet sailed on. In 1938 NZ was again under assessment by the combined forces of the USN, French and Kreigsmarine and army intelligence as part of the Anglo American appeasement and to counter NZ unsustainable expenditure on proposed import licensing factories, social welfare and state health and the 48 percent of the National debt by the expansion of the NZR in all the wrong ways due to Sutch influence on.Coates and Savage with two lines into Central Otago to Roxburgh and Cromwell, two new rail lines into the Hokianga which were on such unstable ground and two new main lines into Gisborne from Napier and Tauranga.
@@frederickmiles327 Very impressive, your data is unimpeachable. If I can add-
1. the Japanese Navy visited NZ in the late 1930's, my Mother had a B/w photo of the fleet in Wellington Harbour (the flag was the give away)- which, in my later years, 'peaked my interest'. Her statement was -
" what could possibly happen, was a subject that could not be ignored".
As it was well promulgated on the Japanese expansion across Korea/Northern China.
2. - US Marines arrived here prior to Mac Arthur leaving the Philippines. Where we lived we had a large contingent (I was not born then, but learnt later - again from Mother) on the rugby park, until they shipped out - apparently not the only camp site - besides Paraparaumu.
3. My late Father in law (former employee NZ Ministry of Works 1940's - drafted into NZ Army Home Regiment - like many other Min of Works employees) was very informative on the preparations of ensuring that any Japanese invasion (and was taken very seriously)- would be met by difficulties in using roads, bridges etc.- that might give a clue as to actions planned and to implemented.
4. What ' standing NZ Army ' remained in NZ was insufficient, as most were in Middle East -
Thank you for your response.
One of the papers at Auckland teacher's training college was "Teachers as sifters" that is what testing does. it streams kids into certain levels appropriate for the job category test statistics will dictate. Some kids will never aspire to be prime ministers and how many hundreds of future prime ministers per year do we need to train? as opposed to how many thousands of truck drivers and labourers and toilet cleaners and street sweepers for low paid menial tasks we need.
Aaaaannnd AsTle is done twice a year how do you think we sort the smarties from the dumb dumbs….If your kid is failing that’s mum and dad’s fault.
What ever you watch as soon as the power changes new nonsense to adhere to nothing is long term when it comes to education. This is shit talk.