NZ's Shame: "80-90% of members in Māori gangs has been in state care"
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- 'A national disgrace,' is how one Commissioner of the Inquiry into Abuse in Care described it. But will New Zealanders take notice? Will things change? Among those who helped see the inquiry through is Fa'afete Taito.
Childhood trauma is real, and takes wisdom, love and understanding to unravel. I pray for every broken person to find healing and peace, so that they might pass it to the next generation instead of passing down more trauma. We need to judge less and love more.
It wasn’t just part Māori that got abused everyone did and the perpetrators should be held accountable no matter who they are.
First failures were the parents, Second failures were state care. Alot of these victims but not all were physically and sexual abused at home and it continued when they were placed in state care. It's well known that many families had sexual predators back in those days and it was swept under the carpet and not to be talked about.
You have zero idea about this subject.
None at all.
Go away, pick up a book & learn something that will teach you to be quiet when you know nothing.
@@ngabushallday6642I know and he or she is correct.
first failures was colonization
@@user-mp3hb8ir5w Us Maori would be extinct without it.
Pedophiles operated within the state care and government office.
I'm not usually a fan of Moana Maniapoto, but this was a solid piece. Very insightful and highlights a part of our current culture that can't just be legislated away/swept under the rug.
I dont know, she is a self made victim and still preaching the message of victimhood.
Thank you for your interview. It really is a national disgrace and unfortunately the current government is unlikely to be able to break out of their narrow vision as evidenced by their policies and beliefs. They don't understand the effect of childhood trauma and probably never will - it is so far outside their own life experiences. I really hope the report is read and taken on board but I fear it will not be.
True beyond belief. Their plans to increase breaking up "Bad Families" will only make this worse & I fear after their recent education reforms (despite them denying it) they will eventually use bad school grades to send kids to boot camps to shape them up & improve their grades. I also believe they will use this new testing to punish principles & boards of directors whose schools don't achieve the national average or required grade levels as Luxon has repeatedly stated he will hold those that don't meet his expectations accountable.
New Zealand could learn something from El Salvador's current leader.
Not suggesting we have the same issues, just that New Zealand seems to have lost it's way. And needs a better direction.
@@roddas26 i think the Military's force will eventually step in assist the Police Force , The Gangs out number them (Especially with all the Deports from Ozzy)
El Salvador Prisons are brutal almost inhumane (But the crime rate & gangs have drop)
You may be onto something..
P.s ...Prison should be the last resort (Prevention is better than paying out taxes payers money on a System not working)
NZ laws are so woke
State was the ambulance at the bottom of the hill…the damage done long before the state’s intervention…
BS, most children were forcibly removed from their parents…don’t perpetuate the bull💩 they were telling everyone🖕🏾🤫
Māori mā, e tū! We need to own up to our own failings and reflect on what has been, and what will always be in our own hands. It doesn’t help to cast blame on anyone else. Don’t blame other ethnicities, don’t blame the systems, don’t blame the crown. Look in the mirror. Look over the fence. Look at our own people failing each other. The tribe is only strong when the tribe pulls together. Do the right thing, be wise, find the right partner, commit to them with love and bring children into this world when you’re ready to be the parent that you wish that you had. Be the change!
"NZ's Shame: "80-90% of members in Māori gangs has been in state care""
Really? New Zealand's shame?
What about the *parents* of the children? The parents who abused them long before they went into state care?
Shouldn't it be the PARENTS who should be ashamed?
Blaming "state care" is blaming "the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff".
Ok, I agree that it's very often a lousy "ambulance" but still - focusing on that avoids focusing on the *cause* of the abuse in the first place. The parents.
Two other things -
1 - Not everyone should have children in the first place. They're a huge responsibility (and a financial burden) and not everyone is "cut out" to be a parent. I'm not, but at least I'm aware of it.
2 - Not all parents can be helped. You can't help someone who just doesn't want to be helped.
"You can lead a horse to water" and all that.
My parents never raped me the state did my parents gave me love the best they could my parents done the best they could with the tools they had don't comment if you haven't walked in our shoes let alone been sexually abused by people you were told to trust by people who worked along with these agencies.
@@andrewnikora2263There's legal requirements to being a parent, in Australia it's even more strict.
Some requirements are ensuring your child is at school until grade 11, having a safe and hygienic home, providing adequate nourishment etc etc.
This is not only for the kids, but to prevent the community having a wave of neglected kida becoming adults.
The blame has many faces, a lack of local work opportunities, poor wages, iwi, hapu and whanau support in many cases non existence, the vulnerable our tamariki are at the mercy of every negative element they face,and have no positive mentors to guide or protect them. The gangs are made up of those who came from disfunctionable families. We need adequate housing, work and a healthy environment which each government have failed to provide. There are many hurdles that require attention which can prevent this tsu nami from consuming our vulnerable.
the biggest problem seems to be because gangs come from dysfunctional families they know how to relate to the young people from similar backgrounds we need people who also understand that to intervene,not some govt appointee from never never land who not only ignores data but willfully decrys it
The biggest issue is that the very system is broken so can only produce broken results. The 4 pillars of society (law, religion, economy & politics) are controlled by corrupt individuals so they can only produce corrupt results. Logic needs to be the bases for decision making not law, religion, economy or politics by using 'The Scientific Principle', identify a problem, create a theory on how to fix it. test that theory, evaluate & publish the results, if the theory is proven to work implement it & again evaluate & publish the results, if the test shows it does not work rework the theory & test, valuate these results & publish. Continue this practise until issue resolved. No emotion or politics involved, just logic.
The lack of decent jobs, ones that provide progression.
@@courtneyyates120 Technically yes but realistically not possible. A factory employs 100 workers, 10 supervisors, 5 managers & 1 CEO. This means of the 100 workers only 15 can progress up the ladder because none of the workers will ever be the CEO & the odds are the managers will not be promoted but employed in from another company so only 10 can hope for a promotion.
They can try changing jobs to get a promotion but will be competing with 100 other people from 100 other companies.
Yes it can happen but for most it will not.
@@TheFalconerNZ I worked as a labourer , then climbed the ladder as a hard honest worker, studying as I achieved managerial roles. It is achievable. It was in the 70s when our local town had plenty of Industries that later went off shore.
Colonisation as you so call it saved Māori from them selves and stopped cannibalism and slavery with in Māori.
That's a fact.
Well done coming forward and making this very clear.
Why work if you get it easier by dealing drug or stealing or floating around and only have party’s ,that’s what we like and gangs affiliates that perfect.
Stop blaming the state and everyone else. Take responsibility for your own actions and pathway
This sounds like a "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" argument. To test if this theory really actually works, try lifting yourself onto a table by pulling up on your bootstraps. Most people need help to improve their situations especially when they are caused by social issues like abuse in foster care because they were taken from their families 'For the benefit', poor education because the family was broken up by governmental policies or because they were the victims of abuse parents who were themselves abused. The "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" argument WAS originally intended as an example of doing the IMPOSSIBLE, not 'Be a man, pull yourself together & get on with life.' it has become
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I went thru a few boys homes but gt barrier island and mt eden boys home turned me into a monster ..i was 15,16,17 going thru this im now 42 .i never wanted to be in fear ever again and joined the mongrel mob .ive waited near on 7 years to hear any news on a abuse in care claim ..cheers sonya cooper and co ...pocketing off us waiting for years
This was and still is a disgraceful situation but to blame this on the growth of gangs is to miss the real problem. The disgusting ethics of those who created the instututions that were rife with abuse both sexual and physical was mirrored by the same ethics as those who ran the gangs. These young men and some women were no doubt taken advantage of when they could not fight back. It must also be considered that their parents for whatever reason didn't do enough to ensure their growth and safety growing up.
Why governments set up institutions and never truly ensure that the children in their care are being looked after but abused still today is a tragedy I do not understand
It starts with the parents.
It starts with the people in power of the country
It started the moment that the original settlers of this country were deprived of their language, culture & identity.
The generations of Māori that were "educated" within the "native schools" system are this countries "lost" generations, they went on to become angry, bewildered & foreign in their own land.
If you can't concieve of those circumstances & the sheer trauma they bring, then just shush.
Thanks.
@@ngabushallday6642 Yes your right i feel for the *Moriori* 😂
@@user-vm1yn2od3deverything Good or bad starts at home that's what us Polynesian were taught
@@JRTIGER07 SHHH We dont talk about them
I agree with most comments that the problems start long before you end up in state care, i was always in trouble ended up in a family home, from there to borstal, from there to jail, getting a few knocks made me resilient, and unlike what i see and hear, i never became a victim, i educated myself and went on to have a successful life, lifes hard full of knocks, knocks make you resilient, victimhood just destroys your future.
There is shame. Shame in the institutes that took in these children, and shame in the parents that didn't care for their own children. Point the finger outward yes, but point the finger inward (hold up a mirror to the parents), or else nothing will change and children will keep being abused, keep being killed, keep killing themselves.
Pacific islanders look out for eachother support eachother that I know of ...maori don't usually come together well not in my family
Enough with the broad statements about entire races!
@@shoutatthesky oh shut up.
I'm Samoan myself, every culture has it's good and bad sides. Even in the Pacific. I was Raped as a Child by another Pacific Islander, from a Church.
I'm 41yrs old still dealing with the Trauma. But Im greatful for the hope I have and the people who have helped me along the way. I'm on a Journey...
People will fail you, but YOU ARE NOT those people.
God Bless and you are brave and Courageous...
@@The_Slippery_Slope_NZ No, you shut up!
@@roido6614 Let's face it Pacific Island cultures are pretty terrible. They are savage and regressive and we see the result when they come here and clash with modernity. But that is the CULTURE, not the PEOPLE.
Where are the features on: Hiw many Homeless Maori dying on our streets and in Emergency Shelters?!!
Is that really happening?
Thats not happening bro
it never ceases to amaze me how the coverup of past abuse becomes blame of the victims for the results
We need to restore the concept of the family - husband, wife and children in a caring, loving relationship, facing challenges together. Instead we have solo parents, partners who are not committed to long term, stable relationships, children who bring in 'finances' from welfare but are not beneficiaries of that welfare, children who are neglected and unloved. Many live with the consequences of the early lack of love and nuture but some survive and grow up to be 'different' and change things for their own future. Constantly looking to 'blame' instead of committing to bringing about the restoration of strong, loving families is the root cause of so much in our dysfunctional society today.
Unfortunately, they allowed their experience to define them. 50 years ago times were hard. We had so much against us. We could have ended up being everything you could imagine. Hold everyone accountable and find excuses after excuses,. But, we didn't. We were the overcomers, not the victims. The failure may have been the parents, state care, and the people behind the scenes. But, colonialism had a huge impact and the reminisces were prevalent. Is the present any different?
Arohanui... Myself an x stateward from the mid 70's now in my early 60's feel the pain & hurt of whom I call my whanau whanaunga katoa of stateward Have travelled the same journeys as you all & too this very day. 2010was my journey of helping personally x statewards without them knowing I too was a x stateward Shame was not ours not then & not today. Arohanui ma tatou Fiona Mahuta Minhinnick Tapara.
Since when were they Maori gangs.
Black Power numb nuts
This is so sad 😢
The problems with gangs (& crime in general) is that society is still governed by the law of the jungle, "Predator & Prey, the strong live on the weak". The trouble is WE NO LONGER LIVE IN JUNGLES, we live in cities & the law of society should have evolved to "We are all part of a single community, the strong need to help the weak". The trouble is that we are taught "Predator & Prey" by the most invasive system in our society, The Capitalistic Economy that puts company profit for some before quality goods for all consumers. One of the very first questions we are asked as kids is "What job are you going to do when you grow up?" perpetuating this system instead of "How are you going to make the world a better place?"
"They took the children for no reason or because we didnt give them education"
Yes challenge state care and try make the system better but all these NGO particularly should be focussing on the drivers that get kids uplifted.
Break the cycle before they end up in state care. If this was addressed there would be less intervention by the state.
Its not the job of any Government to provide people with a purpose in life, a pay cheque or a career. I'm so sick of the whining and blame on any one they can find. There are plenty of good examples for people to copy in every society. Maori need to look to themselves not the Government or any other group to blame their lack of success on. Joining angs are a choice. If we get hurt, we get up again and again! Gangs are not part of the rest of NZ, just the Moari people. There is a reason for that. Stand up and make some changes for yourselves and treat your Kids better, much better. Your reputation of how you bully your kids is shocking, no excuses are going to make that OK. Not eber. Man up Maori! Take responsibility for yourselves. If you know what to do then just do it and loin the real world with the rest of us law abiding citizens from every other nation. Just grow up and quit the excuses. We all suffer hardship and its up to us to get through it.
100% but its just easier to blame very one else.
AND not all pakeha are law abiding or loving parents either.
What do you call a Màori gang ?
sorry why didn't you look after your
family;s and help them why keep blaming every one alse
Are you forgetting they were all once babies , toddlers, young adolescents then adults with no voice. Now adults revisiting the past so that it never happens too the next generation & unborn generations to come. You are somewhat narrow minded
Sad as😢😢
Yes... the psychology is absolutely correct. We need healing.
The Parents of these State care victims need to be held responsible as well ...A lot just wanted to get the Solo Parent Benefit it was Never to Start a Loving Family . Shame on them (Not excusing the Abuse that happened while they were in Care) Many could have been avoided if another Family member took them on instead of State care ...
Arohamai to all the Survivors ❤🕊🕊🕊🕊❤
You don't know what the parents did or didn't do!
@@alien-robot-time-traveler I know they didn't take the responsibility of being a Good Parent seriously...Yes you right i do not know and i do not WANT TO KNOW
@@JRTIGER07 You say you know then say you don't know! A contradiction, that says it all.
@@alien-robot-time-traveler No contradiction..i don't know anymore then YOU DON'T KNOW because none of us were there...Common logic 😂 And Guess what i do NOT want to know because it would just get me Angry
@@JRTIGER07 You have a lot to say for someone who doesn't know. Ignorance.
When he referenced the state as the accomplice driver, so so true. Thank you for telling your story Fete.
So do we blame the government or poor parenting?
Both.gov agenda of destroy cultures like the US indigenous and Australian also.
Poor parenting. *That* is the core problem.
If children have loving, caring parents then they're very unlikely to end up in state care.
Exactly.
We now have more gangs per capita than our Aussie neighbor's taking into account less land mass ...this government had to do something or these gangs will just run a' muck ! , so wtf y'all complaining about ....
This is an absolute disgrace. Appalling! We cannot cast blame on parents as historically, they have been part of the system. We need to climb down from our pedestals of superiority and recognise the abuse inflicted. We are to blame. Only then can we move on and start to repair the damage caused.
Really? We "cannot cast blame on parents"?
Who was it that abused the children in the first place, causing them to be put in state care?
The parents.
If a problem isn't fixed at its source then it will keep happening.
It's that simple.
work is life
Thank you, we as everyday kiwis, know this 100%,accurate.
I am a Kiwi living in convictland. We took our son away from NZ when he was a child, and now a grown adult he is fostering a Torres Strait child, and the life this child is getting makes me extremely proud.Its a hopeless system here though they are a year late with the full time care approval, and some of the carers are hopeless. This child struck gold when given to our family, I only wish others are as lucky.
Why are we focused on the Maoris again 80-90% of European in gangs were abused in state care to this Maori vs white crap has to stop we are all nzers I can't get the help I need because there is no funding but a Maori can it's bullshit
Yes and include NZs stolen generation.
As a young teen I was made a state ward. My father left us when I was about 11 and I started petty crimes. Instead of help the state came to my home one morning with 2 police and put me in a home. This happened without a court case, and my mother had no idea it was even going to happen. I wasn't even going to court for a charge. I had been to court in previous months but was never sentenced to be taken away from mum. As a 13 year old that was devastating. I am 51 now but that was a tough thing to go through. I am a white man with a maori dad and pakeha mum. So this didn't just happen to maori. I was sent to a boys home in Melville (Hamilton) for 6 wks and then to Kohitere boys home in Levin for 9 months.
Sorry to read this, I am a Kiwi living in Brisbane and my son who came here as a young boy is fostering a Torres Strait child.I am so proud of the life they are giving this child and I love this child like I do their girls.I am so proud to be a Kiwi after living here, but extremely sad to watch this video.My son went back to NZ to bury his Dad and they took this child with them,they had a great trip and our hope is they get to keep this child till 18.I wish you well my friend I am sorry our system let you down all the very best for the rest of your life.
Write it out...talk it out..to get it out of your body,stress,trauma...so you can heal...don't keep it inside share with with your children..heal..move on...😮
@@d.a2500 Thanks mate. But yeah don't worry i bounced back once I started working and had my own kids i became a self employed builder. At the moment i'm bringing up 4 of my grand children on my own due to my daughter being hooked on crack. That's been the last almost 5 years. Ages are 5, 6, 14 and 15. I am well respected in building industry so my teen years didn't hinder the man I am today.
How can you be white if your father is Māori?
@@shoutatthesky Mums genes must have been stronger than Dads. Not sure why God did that.
As an abused child myself, I find it hypocritical that Abuse in "State" care, has now been renamed to "Abuse in care", seemingly removing the state as the perpatrator.. But funny you post this video, because you, Moana, blocked me on FB for commenting on your posts regarding the very same issues.. You pick and choose who you listen to.. As a Criminal Justice fellow, I could have helped to open up your interviews, but you shut me out as you seek certain voices to help you distribute your article.. You care only about your story, not OUR stories..
Same with Maori Mental Health we use a western paradigm NOT set up with the different cultural needs in mind. The western model isolates the mentally ill when the truth is in thier face that better results are when Maori re-comnect with thier culture and families. Same here the powers that should not be havnt a clue or purposely dont want to address what really goes on in state care and that it has and always will FAIL.
A brain is a brain regardless of what race it is. Stop being a racist.
The children need parents and only parents. A Mum and Dad. Not state care.
Unlawful remote neural monitoring remotely controlled by cybernetic and cyborging
They want a lot of money.
What a load of bs stop making excuses for bad behavior it's in there DNA plenty of other folks end up in state care and they don't end up in gangs
In their dna…you’re whiteness is showing
And DNA in pedophilia operating state care and in government preying on vulnerable children.