Yeah sometimes you can see some really good deals. I've seen a few 8th Gen systems with 8700s (6c 12t) go for roughly $100 myself that also had either 8 or 16GB ram, and either a 256 or 512GB ssd or a 1TB hdd. And honestly those systems still roar. I'm using one as an htpc with an Rx 6400. (Yes yes I know pcie 3 slightly slows down the 6400, and it has no video encoder)
I did a build like this with an OptiPlex 3010 about a year ago for a friend of mine. It had an i5 3470 in it and I put in 16GB ram a 1TB SSD and managed to score a GTX 1070 on Facebook marketplace for $70. The total build cost was $185. to this day, my friend loves the system and uses it constantly for all kinds of games.
I bought a refurbished Lenovo ThinkCentre for $180 two years ago with a i5 4750 and 256GB SSD and upgraded the RAM to 16GB with an extra stick I had laying around. Two months ago I added a $130 XFX RX6400 low profile card and wow! Runs like new. I get 100fps minimum in Fortnite at 1440p medium settings in DX12. Good enough for me.
i was able to help a few of my middle school friends built their first budget gaming pcs for around 200-300 each, I really recommend having 200+ as your budget, as it really gives headroom for flexibility and some sort of upgrade path for longer potential lifespan
4:12 Fun fact: The brand you show on screen *is* actually a real English word, not a "random jumble of letters." A somnambulist is a sleepwalker---"somnus" meaning "sleep" in Latin and "ambulare" meaning to walk around in Latin. But it still isn't a recognizable brand!
Picked up a bunch of "e waste" from a local radio station. They had a xeon tower with a 1230 v3 in it, 16GB of ram and all I had to do was throw in a SSD, PSU and a very suspect RX 580 obtained from a Amazon return store. I think all in, I spent $60 out of pocket and now my kid can play basically any switch game he wants (offline) and games like fortnite and roblox with ease.
What I did was made a facebook post for my local city asking for any old free computers. Low and behold, I was blessed and received multiple free towers, free monitors, lots of old cpu's and gpu's. Only doing this to build out retro gaming emulation machines so it works perfect, built my first one yesterday and been playing some classic Nintendo! So awesome
i bought my 13 year old son an HP ProDesk 600 G1 Small Form Factor Upgraded the CPU to an i7 Upgraded the ram to 16gb Installed a Dell AMD 4gb low profile Graphics Card Installed AMD adrenalin software with the correct Drivers for the dell amd card. And the Thing Rocks.
I did this 2 months ago and ever since it s become my daily system. Mine clocked in at about $79 with a geforce gtx 745 and a i5-2400 but im upgrading it with a xeon processor in a few days. it runs great with about everything i've tested it with. (I even got MW2 and MW2019 to run on the thing and played through the whole campaign.) These builds are highly underrated as entry pcs.
@@gotem370 yes it would be required if you want to upgrade to next gen. However Ryzen 3 1200 af and a320 mobo would go a long way, it is stronger than i5 2400 and it would save you the cost of new mobo and ram when upgrading. Don't worry a320 mobos can support 65W cpus, so you can put Ryzen 5 5600x without buying a new motherboard.
wow a GTX 745? Why not focus on upgrading the GPU first? The older intel processors still hold up super well and I think the graphics card would be the weak point of that system
@@yams_yams_ honestly, with the form factor i bought, i had to take a hammer to the case just to get that card in. I would probably need a saw for anything bigger than the 745, but i’ll look into it. Thanks.
I bought a used dell optiplex 7050 for 100$ on eBay and it comes with a i5-7500, 16gb ddr4 ram and 256gb ssd. I feel like it was a steal and deal and it was perfectly clean. Shout out to Seabee5
This old optiplexes really are a killer value sometimes if you find the right deal. I got one with an i7 8700 as my htpc right now. It came with the 8700, 8GB of ddr4, and a 1TB hdd for like $105 shipped. I threw in a 2nd stick of ram, a 500GB ssd, and an rx 6400 LP single slot card? And the thing rips for being a tiny htpc. And not consuming much power. The 8700's igpu is pretty solid since intel upgraded their igpus with 7th gen, so it handles transcoding and such super well too, so when its life as an htpc is over? Itll probably become a plex box.
@@testzasve6021 I've gotten a couple of similar deals but do note I am saying they were/are DEALS... You they're not normal pricing but sometimes you'll just see em for these prices but they usually are a "buy on sight" thing if you really want it. But one was a 5060 and one was a 3060.
Thanks Jason, this really gives me a more grounded perspective and makes me appreciate building even an APU-only build with no discrete GPU on AM4 in 2023 🎉
I really like the way you format your videos and tell the realistic parts of how you got stuff. The one thing I wish you could do though would be adding the 1% lows for your benchmarks, other than that loving the vidoes!
6:38 The RX 580 2048sp is actually an RX 570 locked at around 60% of it's original power draw. So, about 90w. Pretty safe to use sata adapters since the PCI-E slot is already providing around 50-60w. Btw, the performance isn't as bad as you would expect given the limitations. Is only around 15% slower than an RX 570 despite the 60% powerdraw limit.
In the use case of upgrading a Dell, that is actually a good thing that it is lower power. I thought the Chinese RX580 was just an RX 570 in every way including its 150W TDP. Are you sure this isn't just certain boards with a PL BIOS?
@@douglasmurphy3266 When it comes to the RX 580 2048SP, I've used it with generic PSU's for years without any problems. But I haven't really measured the power draw by myself. There's a TH-cam channel which covered this a while back. I'm gonna try and get hard evidence and come back at you.
rx 580 2048sp is 150w tdp the pcie slot provides 75w the maximum for that sata adapter is 54w If anyone is building this with the adapter, make sure to set a power limit of 129w or less. It probably won't catch fire, but it is possible.
I have the same setup, its a good budget gaming pc if you play games release 5-10 years ago. still can rock few 2023 games with mixed settings. good upgrade path i7 4790/k
My sisters an architect, 5 years ago they were liquidating their old work stations. 40 dollars got me a good base and I threw in a 3060. Used that for a number of years. But ultimately I splurged and built an am4 build with a 4070 super.
They can make amazing emulation boxes as well. I have one with a 4th Gen Core i5 running on integrated graphics and running Batocera and its able to handle up to PS2 emulation. Don't go in with graphics upscaling unless its Saturn and PS1. I really want to get a LP RX6400 for that system to get some Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U emulation going on that box. Also to get something more powerful that could perhaps give me a small PC powerful enough to run VR games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip and Superhot VR. The games that are so well optimized that even my aging GTX680 can run these games without breaking a sweat.
This is a great example of just the basics of PC gaming at an extremely low cost. I personally would have tried to find a 6th or 7th gen i5 or i7-4790k and used its iGPU, or use a low-cost 4 to 8GB graphics card. I also would have installed a 250 SSD or a 1TB 7200 rpm HDD even though it's pretty slow. In my experience, an i5-6500T and 6200U certainly won't get 60fps but it'll run Fallout 4 on low/medium settings and New Vegas at 40fps on high without designated graphics.
can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version i5 4590 and 12 gb ram firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
The problem with those igpus is that while their average fps is *acceptable* they tened to be plagued with stutters especially if you dont have a ton of ram
@NinjaWeedle Yes, indeed. My Thinkpad runs the 6200U and it's certainly no Legion gaming laptop. Of course, you must sacrifice something when your budget is extremely low for a PC or laptop, I did for a few years with my desktop from the garbage and my GT 1030 which ran corporate stable games. Wasn't much PC Master Race but Skyrim played well enough to enjoy it.
A huge bang for buck upgrade for that PC would be adding a dirt cheap Xeon, E3-1241V3, it is a 4 core 8 thread CPU with very similar performance to a 4th gen i7. No, it isn't officially supported, but sometime around 2018 there was a security vulnerability identified in this era Intel CPUs, a BIOS update was released to fix the issue, and Dell use the same microcode information in the update for all boards using those chipsets, so machines like this Optiplex, and lower end Alienware got Xeon support unlocked. I have an X51 with a Xeon in it, the 4790 still sells for about $40, these Xeons sell for $10-20.
I got an Optipex 3060, with an i5 8500, for 60 quid - got a 1050 for £40. It works well, I also put in an nvme drive. It's pretty quick, the kids use it for gaming and it works really well.
Nice build! Some feedback - you should have gotten a 2x SATA to PCIe adapter instead of the 1x SATA to PCIe, they're capable of 108 watts instead of 50 and they're safer. Reason that 2 SATA cords is safer is because the RX 580 GPU can get to 150 watts. The motherboard supplies 75. That means your singular SATA cable will be supplying 75 watts, which is WELL over the safe limit, making this PC a fire hazard. If it was a lower power GPU like the GTX 1650 Super (only needs 25w from sata or PCI power) then your adapter would work fine. Stay safe, and nice build.
@@charliesretrocomputing You did not, thats right. I was just saying, pulling too much amps over molex/sata is always a bad idea, i managed to melt a few connectors just by doing such a "hack" via sata/molex to pcie
I know this is over the budget in the video but if ur looking to build a powerful pc out of a 3020 mt I managed to build one for around £220 which is like 260 dollars and it has a i5 4590 with 16gb ram and 2x 240gb ssd,rx 590 and that includes a case swap aswell,pretty good if u ask me plus near to no bottleneck either
Good build, I'd just say that 120GB is too low these days as anything other than a basic boot drive. Modern games take up a ton of space. I would have added on another $20 and tried to pick up a 500GB SATA SSD to start with so you could at least have a reasonable local game library.
Modern AAA games take up a ton of space. But this thing ain't built for that. It's built for like decade old games and esports games. And another ssd or an hdd is like the easiest next upgrade.
Honestly yeah, even as a boot drive 120gb is just not enough. 256 is the bare minimum I'd ever recommend nowadays. Between the few games you'll wanna install & just the other programs and whatnot it's just gonna fill up crazy fast & you're gonna need to upgrade super soon if you use your PC frequently
was working at school last summer converting it into an office building and they gave me and old hp desktop. got i5 4570 cpu 8gb of some old ass ram and 250gb ssd. i bought a 1080 gpu for 100 bucks and a power supply for 60 and it runs apex like a champ.
@@JasonWitmerYT Ya it's not bad. little different then the 2k build i had before but it works. The psu is jumped tho and only powering the gpu because of connector issues i wasn't aware of when i purchased it but it works for now. Gonna upgrade to the i7 4790k, 16gb ram and 1tb storage. I could buy a new build but i'm kinda hooked on seeing what i can turn this into at this point :)
Just got an optiplex 7040 MT 16gb of ram ddr4 an i7 6700 and a 500gb HDD for 50$ all i did was buy a 1050 Ti for 60$ and a m.2 SSD for 40$ which i can use for a later build no adapter needed or anything.
Muy bueno, pero hay que evitar a toda costa esos I5, lo ideal seria cualquier I7 de segunda gen en adelante, hay una diferencia gigantesca, yo cuando desactivo el HT en mi 3770 para hacer algunos benchmarks, bajan los fps muchisimo por ejemplo en Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, y hay que tomar en cuanta que esto es solo la diferencia del HT, porque el I5 tiene menos memoria cache cosa que tambien es relevante para mejorar los FPS
Question: can a dell optiplex with i5 or i7 6500/6700 - 8500/8700 with 32 gb ram and a gtx 1650 be enough to: do photoshop, after effects, light premier, front end developing and electric/electronic circuit simulation? I am a engineer student with a tight budget
I got a dell 3050 tower for around £50 then added a GTX 1650 for another £50 quite a good pc. Has 16gb ram and a i5 6500, I might sell it and add an i7 7700 for another 50ish :)
All gone now, the where a few 16gb i-7 8700 Dell PCs for sale on eBay last week for only $80 shipped no storage drive. I was thinking of picking one up to pair with my left over $60 RX580, and when i finally decided to buy they sold out....
Honestly this would be perfect for what i want. I have my series s for gta and red dead and i have my pc for some steam only games. Primarily indie games like phasmaphobia and lethal company
Four threads with low clocks is just pretty "meh" these days. I'd try to get a slightly newer model with an i7-6700 and have a slightly bigger budget. Or maybe I'm just too used to modern-ish hardware with my R7 5800X & R5 3600 rigs :D
Hi Jason, I have a similar Dell optiplex like that one. Mine is an i5 4590 with a 500GB hard drive and a mix of DDR3 4Gb:x2 Ram that adds up to 8Gb Ram. And a 8pin Dell motherboard. I don't know how I can upgrade this kind of PC into a budget gaming PC? if you steel reply to your old video's it will mean a lot.
Hey buddy, I have an old video that’s called something like “I built a $200 PC” and it has a Dell optiplex in the thumbnail. It uses an optiplex that uses a similar CPU - might be helpful for you :) good luck!
Since Windows 10 is coming to an end in 2 years, and this pc can't be updated to Win 11, just use a Linux Distro like Linux Mint, Pop OS, Nobara, Ubuntu and Fedora, you can still use this PC for gaming. Overall, thanks for the video
could’ve saved a bit on the GPU. I got a used 1050ti for $40. Less VRAM, but for Fortnite and similar games, it’s great. The 580 is good for more recent games because of the vram but it gets hot.
I love the idea of refurbishing and using an old pc with used parts. It's so post-apocalyptic :D However, it would feel more "adequate" (perhaps?) if a hardwares of a certain era would be used with softwares (aka games) from the same era. GTA V is from a different age I guess...
@@JasonWitmerYT that's awesome and thanks for the speedy response! I'll probably follow your video again when making a cheap PC because idk much about PCs.
Would that PCI-E adapter work well for a more powerful gpu (but still only single pin connector) ? I have an i7-8700 processor which is decent but it's in a proprietary system with no PSU upgrade option. The PSU is 250w so not that strong,. the TDP of the 8700 is 65w non-boosted. What's the max GPU TDP I should aim for? Or within safe range, I should say. I was thinking maybe the 4060 since it only has around 110w TDP and is a very powerful card, albeit probably overpriced.
You're kinda just posting this here hoping to get some advice from a video that's completely not even close to where you would normally want to find answers. A better place to look is forums/watch videos about what your cpu is capable of to match a gpu for your budget and put in a little work yourself (but trust me, I know we all start somewhere. Not looking down, just trying to help). It's really hard to answer your question as we don't know the case dimensions you are working with, what resolution you want to play at, or your budget. Good options at or under 100 are AMD rx580 8gb (go watch some videos on how to avoid bad ones, I believe ones that have 2048 Cuda cores are the ones to avoid) at 50 or so dollars Nvidia Gtx 1070ti at 100ish Rx5600xt for about 100ish (this only has 6 gigs of vram, but is what I use in my build and it's mostly fine for games at 1080p medium or high) Rx5700xt for 120-140 Its hard to recommend you anything else as anything less than 8gb vram is VERY ill advised looking ahead. If you are looking for new (that's worth your while) the bar for entry is basically 200$ with the AMD rx6600 or the intel a750 (6600 is preferred as it has better drivers and won't have a hard time as much as the internet card will)
I'd try to find a deal on a used RX 6600. Sure, you're going to be leaving a lot of performance on the table when paired with that CPU, but with the right settings and the frame rates capped to 60 (or 30 if the CPU isn't capable of 60 stable) to reduce stuttering, you'll do fine until you can afford a CPU upgrade. And even a used ryzen 5 3600 would be more than enough to last for a while when paired with a RX 6600.
I also put a similar build with my Optiplex, added an Asrock a320m/ac & R5 5500 & XFX RX 6600 & EVGA 500w 80+ bronze psu. I made a small cut out on the front panel to add a power switch, also you don’t have to but I would recommend adding a 120mm fan in front for good air flow before my 6600 at 100% was around 70c its not a bad temp but adding a front fan it was now hovering at 60c- 62c at 100% so it’s something to consider
I don’t know anything much about pcs but what components can I upgrade to get a slightly better fps? Willing to spend a bit more just for games like red dead to run perfect
i found a pc with a i7 12700k 32 gb ddr4 3600 mgh ram and a 850 watt power supply a montech case, 4 rgb fans, 2 tbof storage and a rx 6800 for just $250 I think it was good deal
My windows 11 iso has a registry that I added that bypasses the minimum requirements for windows 11. So I’m able to install windows 11 on 10 year old computers.
i got a 3020 sff was thinking about rx 6400 or 1650 low profile single slot Or should i remove the psu so i can slot in the cheaper 1080 or other full size card, als using power adapter cable to graphics card? hmmm what other options rx 550 would fit but is too old or 1050? what others are there
Hey just a question bit do you think a Dell OptiPlex 3050 SFF Desktop Computer Core i5 7th gen Processor 8GB RAM 120GB HDD 19" Monitor Wi-Fi Windows 10 Home could run vr ?
Thanks for watching! Would you consider a PC this cheap??
Yeah for sure it's still usable for esports games and old games can also do emulation.
Yes, I bought two a while ago. Gutted one and turned it into a Ryzenplex, the other one I triple boot.
can you benchmar more games
Yeap,theres a literal tonne of games it can run in this day and age
The PCI-E to SATA power connectors are called fire starters for a reason.
I did see a PC on ebay for 70 dollars that came with an i7 6700 16GB ram and a 256gb ssd. Thought it was interesting for the price.
Go for it bro!
@@PrjctWRX no im fine i already have a pc
@@albertfanboy whats ur specs?
I have 4 dell optiplex 7050s with 7th gen that I'm Turing into gaming pcs
Yeah sometimes you can see some really good deals.
I've seen a few 8th Gen systems with 8700s (6c 12t) go for roughly $100 myself that also had either 8 or 16GB ram, and either a 256 or 512GB ssd or a 1TB hdd.
And honestly those systems still roar. I'm using one as an htpc with an Rx 6400. (Yes yes I know pcie 3 slightly slows down the 6400, and it has no video encoder)
I did a build like this with an OptiPlex 3010 about a year ago for a friend of mine. It had an i5 3470 in it and I put in 16GB ram a 1TB SSD and managed to score a GTX 1070 on Facebook marketplace for $70. The total build cost was $185. to this day, my friend loves the system and uses it constantly for all kinds of games.
Did you change the psu if not did it work fine?
I bought a refurbished Lenovo ThinkCentre for $180 two years ago with a i5 4750 and 256GB SSD and upgraded the RAM to 16GB with an extra stick I had laying around. Two months ago I added a $130 XFX RX6400 low profile card and wow! Runs like new. I get 100fps minimum in Fortnite at 1440p medium settings in DX12. Good enough for me.
nice
That GPU is not the best choice for that system. However, if it meets your needs, have fun.
what would you recommend?@@tuank624
How much Watts does the psu have?
@@tuank624 So what could be then?
i was able to help a few of my middle school friends built their first budget gaming pcs for around 200-300 each, I really recommend having 200+ as your budget, as it really gives headroom for flexibility and some sort of upgrade path for longer potential lifespan
4:12 Fun fact: The brand you show on screen *is* actually a real English word, not a "random jumble of letters." A somnambulist is a sleepwalker---"somnus" meaning "sleep" in Latin and "ambulare" meaning to walk around in Latin. But it still isn't a recognizable brand!
Picked up a bunch of "e waste" from a local radio station. They had a xeon tower with a 1230 v3 in it, 16GB of ram and all I had to do was throw in a SSD, PSU and a very suspect RX 580 obtained from a Amazon return store. I think all in, I spent $60 out of pocket and now my kid can play basically any switch game he wants (offline) and games like fortnite and roblox with ease.
Awesome find!
be my dad. please.
What I did was made a facebook post for my local city asking for any old free computers. Low and behold, I was blessed and received multiple free towers, free monitors, lots of old cpu's and gpu's. Only doing this to build out retro gaming emulation machines so it works perfect, built my first one yesterday and been playing some classic Nintendo! So awesome
i bought my 13 year old son an
HP ProDesk 600 G1 Small Form Factor
Upgraded the CPU to an i7
Upgraded the ram to 16gb
Installed a Dell AMD 4gb low profile Graphics Card
Installed AMD adrenalin software with the correct Drivers for the dell amd card.
And the Thing Rocks.
I did this 2 months ago and ever since it s become my daily system. Mine clocked in at about $79 with a geforce gtx 745 and a i5-2400 but im upgrading it with a xeon processor in a few days. it runs great with about everything i've tested it with. (I even got MW2 and MW2019 to run on the thing and played through the whole campaign.) These builds are highly underrated as entry pcs.
Which Xeon processor?
how easy would it be to upgrade different components going forward? would a new motherboard be required?
@@gotem370 yes it would be required if you want to upgrade to next gen. However Ryzen 3 1200 af and a320 mobo would go a long way, it is stronger than i5 2400 and it would save you the cost of new mobo and ram when upgrading. Don't worry a320 mobos can support 65W cpus, so you can put Ryzen 5 5600x without buying a new motherboard.
wow a GTX 745? Why not focus on upgrading the GPU first? The older intel processors still hold up super well and I think the graphics card would be the weak point of that system
@@yams_yams_ honestly, with the form factor i bought, i had to take a hammer to the case just to get that card in. I would probably need a saw for anything bigger than the 745, but i’ll look into it. Thanks.
I followed the video, and somehow got a pc that can run cyberpunk for 100 dollars. Thanks for the help!
I bought a used dell optiplex 7050 for 100$ on eBay and it comes with a i5-7500, 16gb ddr4 ram and 256gb ssd. I feel like it was a steal and deal and it was perfectly clean. Shout out to Seabee5
This old optiplexes really are a killer value sometimes if you find the right deal. I got one with an i7 8700 as my htpc right now. It came with the 8700, 8GB of ddr4, and a 1TB hdd for like $105 shipped. I threw in a 2nd stick of ram, a 500GB ssd, and an rx 6400 LP single slot card?
And the thing rips for being a tiny htpc. And not consuming much power.
The 8700's igpu is pretty solid since intel upgraded their igpus with 7th gen, so it handles transcoding and such super well too, so when its life as an htpc is over? Itll probably become a plex box.
What optiplex did u buy?
@@testzasve6021 I've gotten a couple of similar deals but do note I am saying they were/are DEALS... You they're not normal pricing but sometimes you'll just see em for these prices but they usually are a "buy on sight" thing if you really want it. But one was a 5060 and one was a 3060.
For 105 dollars? Damn...
I'd buy as many as i could for that price lmao
Thanks Jason, this really gives me a more grounded perspective and makes me appreciate building even an APU-only build with no discrete GPU on AM4 in 2023 🎉
Welcome back, bro. I hope you enjoyed your vacation. Great stuff as always.
Thanks mate! I’m actually still on vacation - edited this one in the middle of China haha.
are you vlogging?😂@@JasonWitmerYT
I really like the way you format your videos and tell the realistic parts of how you got stuff. The one thing I wish you could do though would be adding the 1% lows for your benchmarks, other than that loving the vidoes!
I DID NOT expect it to run that good!
6:38 The RX 580 2048sp is actually an RX 570 locked at around 60% of it's original power draw. So, about 90w. Pretty safe to use sata adapters since the PCI-E slot is already providing around 50-60w. Btw, the performance isn't as bad as you would expect given the limitations. Is only around 15% slower than an RX 570 despite the 60% powerdraw limit.
In the use case of upgrading a Dell, that is actually a good thing that it is lower power. I thought the Chinese RX580 was just an RX 570 in every way including its 150W TDP. Are you sure this isn't just certain boards with a PL BIOS?
@@douglasmurphy3266 When it comes to the RX 580 2048SP, I've used it with generic PSU's for years without any problems. But I haven't really measured the power draw by myself.
There's a TH-cam channel which covered this a while back. I'm gonna try and get hard evidence and come back at you.
rx 580 2048sp is 150w tdp
the pcie slot provides 75w
the maximum for that sata adapter is 54w
If anyone is building this with the adapter, make sure to set a power limit of 129w or less.
It probably won't catch fire, but it is possible.
legend
I have the same setup, its a good budget gaming pc if you play games release 5-10 years ago. still can rock few 2023 games with mixed settings. good upgrade path i7 4790/k
Love watching this type of videos, is so satisfying use some old hardware to play games
My sisters an architect, 5 years ago they were liquidating their old work stations. 40 dollars got me a good base and I threw in a 3060. Used that for a number of years. But ultimately I splurged and built an am4 build with a 4070 super.
They can make amazing emulation boxes as well.
I have one with a 4th Gen Core i5 running on integrated graphics and running Batocera and its able to handle up to PS2 emulation.
Don't go in with graphics upscaling unless its Saturn and PS1.
I really want to get a LP RX6400 for that system to get some Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U emulation going on that box.
Also to get something more powerful that could perhaps give me a small PC powerful enough to run VR games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip and Superhot VR.
The games that are so well optimized that even my aging GTX680 can run these games without breaking a sweat.
This is a great example of just the basics of PC gaming at an extremely low cost. I personally would have tried to find a 6th or 7th gen i5 or i7-4790k and used its iGPU, or use a low-cost 4 to 8GB graphics card. I also would have installed a 250 SSD or a 1TB 7200 rpm HDD even though it's pretty slow. In my experience, an i5-6500T and 6200U certainly won't get 60fps but it'll run Fallout 4 on low/medium settings and New Vegas at 40fps on high without designated graphics.
can u please help me i have dell optiplex 3020 tower version i5 4590 and 12 gb ram firstly i wanted to upgrade my r7 240 gpu to rx580 but comp tech said my mothercard is not compatible and my psu is not enough is any good suggested gpu without i need upgrade my motherboard and psu
The problem with those igpus is that while their average fps is *acceptable* they tened to be plagued with stutters especially if you dont have a ton of ram
@NinjaWeedle Yes, indeed. My Thinkpad runs the 6200U and it's certainly no Legion gaming laptop. Of course, you must sacrifice something when your budget is extremely low for a PC or laptop, I did for a few years with my desktop from the garbage and my GT 1030 which ran corporate stable games. Wasn't much PC Master Race but Skyrim played well enough to enjoy it.
A huge bang for buck upgrade for that PC would be adding a dirt cheap Xeon,
E3-1241V3, it is a 4 core 8 thread CPU with very similar performance to a 4th gen i7. No, it isn't officially supported, but sometime around 2018 there was a security vulnerability identified in this era Intel CPUs, a BIOS update was released to fix the issue, and Dell use the same microcode information in the update for all boards using those chipsets, so machines like this Optiplex, and lower end Alienware got Xeon support unlocked. I have an X51 with a Xeon in it, the 4790 still sells for about $40, these Xeons sell for $10-20.
Great video!
I got an Optipex 3060, with an i5 8500, for 60 quid - got a 1050 for £40. It works well, I also put in an nvme drive. It's pretty quick, the kids use it for gaming and it works really well.
Nice build!
Some feedback - you should have gotten a 2x SATA to PCIe adapter instead of the 1x SATA to PCIe, they're capable of 108 watts instead of 50 and they're safer.
Reason that 2 SATA cords is safer is because the RX 580 GPU can get to 150 watts. The motherboard supplies 75. That means your singular SATA cable will be supplying 75 watts, which is WELL over the safe limit, making this PC a fire hazard.
If it was a lower power GPU like the GTX 1650 Super (only needs 25w from sata or PCI power) then your adapter would work fine.
Stay safe, and nice build.
u dont wanna draw even 50 amps over sata or molex
@@predatortheme amps?? Never mentioned amps
@@charliesretrocomputing You did not, thats right. I was just saying, pulling too much amps over molex/sata is always a bad idea, i managed to melt a few connectors just by doing such a "hack" via sata/molex to pcie
The i7 6700 and i7 6700k may be power hungry but they're solid processors to look for in optiplexes (as of early 2024)
I know this is over the budget in the video but if ur looking to build a powerful pc out of a 3020 mt I managed to build one for around £220 which is like 260 dollars and it has a i5 4590 with 16gb ram and 2x 240gb ssd,rx 590 and that includes a case swap aswell,pretty good if u ask me plus near to no bottleneck either
Good build, I'd just say that 120GB is too low these days as anything other than a basic boot drive. Modern games take up a ton of space. I would have added on another $20 and tried to pick up a 500GB SATA SSD to start with so you could at least have a reasonable local game library.
Modern AAA games take up a ton of space. But this thing ain't built for that. It's built for like decade old games and esports games. And another ssd or an hdd is like the easiest next upgrade.
Honestly yeah, even as a boot drive 120gb is just not enough. 256 is the bare minimum I'd ever recommend nowadays. Between the few games you'll wanna install & just the other programs and whatnot it's just gonna fill up crazy fast & you're gonna need to upgrade super soon if you use your PC frequently
Budget was 100, so.
I hope you're currently enjoying your vacation.
I am thanks! It’s been exhausting but been super great
Great video and if you had an extra $15/$20 you can get a v3 Xeon 4core 8threads and bombs away
2:44 I ran a ivy bridge system with 12gb ram for a while before, 4gb+8gb and it was fine. If its cheap enough could just get 1 more RAM stick
was working at school last summer converting it into an office building and they gave me and old hp desktop. got i5 4570 cpu 8gb of some old ass ram and 250gb ssd. i bought a 1080 gpu for 100 bucks and a power supply for 60 and it runs apex like a champ.
Sounds like a legit build :) nice work
@@JasonWitmerYT Ya it's not bad. little different then the 2k build i had before but it works. The psu is jumped tho and only powering the gpu because of connector issues i wasn't aware of when i purchased it but it works for now. Gonna upgrade to the i7 4790k, 16gb ram and 1tb storage. I could buy a new build but i'm kinda hooked on seeing what i can turn this into at this point :)
Thanks this video helped me out
I’m new to this computer thing, and was wondering how to add these new components to our pc
Hi, Google is a good resource for learning this stuff
I'm old school, I LOVE that PC mainly because it looks like it has an optical drive, DVD, CD?
It sure does haha DVD
I found one for 20$, it worked ok on its own, but after I upgraded it it was better than most $300 gaming pcs
just found your channel... really enjoy it. :D
I have also seen the ones that go for auctions go for about 10 bucks, so jump on those if you see them
i could definitely see this as a good spend $100 now to get gaming then save up for a real custom pc in a few years
I just built a 100 pc myself witha Rx 580 and a r3 1300 x
i just put a gtx 970 into a i7 3770 optiplex, not bad $120CAD total
Tips on grading an Optiplex: How do I know if it's compatible?
Great video, respect
Make a video on e-gpu's.. i.e try converting am old laptop to a pretty standard gaming pc
good work, am building one with r5 3600 and gtx 1080 - gonnan try fit in 300 bucks
Sounds legit!
With a reasonable internet connection a pc like this could be a good platform for playing stuff on Geforce Now or Amazon Luna or something like that.
I love Amazon Luna, since my laptop is not very powerful.
@@SeemlyCubeIt works well !
We played "Immortal Fenyx Rising" on it. An amusing game.
Just got an optiplex 7040 MT 16gb of ram ddr4 an i7 6700 and a 500gb HDD for 50$ all i did was buy a 1050 Ti for 60$ and a m.2 SSD for 40$ which i can use for a later build no adapter needed or anything.
Great video, the itch to hunt for cheap sussy computer hardware is back!
Pretty decent I’d be happy with this system as a kid. Given the crap I had to work with 😂
bro every time i see good deal on ebay for 50-70$ shipping is like 1100 to 2000$, if i could afford that much i would buy brand new
Muy bueno, pero hay que evitar a toda costa esos I5, lo ideal seria cualquier I7 de segunda gen en adelante, hay una diferencia gigantesca, yo cuando desactivo el HT en mi 3770 para hacer algunos benchmarks, bajan los fps muchisimo por ejemplo en Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, y hay que tomar en cuanta que esto es solo la diferencia del HT, porque el I5 tiene menos memoria cache cosa que tambien es relevante para mejorar los FPS
Los i5 no son malos, de hecho son muy buenos pero un i5 6500 le da mil vueltas creo yo a un 3770
my 800$ Laptop runs fortnite performence Lowest settings at 30 Frames 💀
you literally got scammed...
What is it?
its because of integrated graphics
Question: can a dell optiplex with i5 or i7 6500/6700 - 8500/8700 with 32 gb ram and a gtx 1650 be enough to: do photoshop, after effects, light premier, front end developing and electric/electronic circuit simulation? I am a engineer student with a tight budget
For the ssd i chose the 240 GB MSI SPATIUM for $20 on amazon
Good choice!
I got a dell 3050 tower for around £50 then added a GTX 1650 for another £50 quite a good pc. Has 16gb ram and a i5 6500, I might sell it and add an i7 7700 for another 50ish :)
I will literally pay you to give me this computer
All gone now, the where a few 16gb i-7 8700 Dell PCs for sale on eBay last week for only $80 shipped no storage drive. I was thinking of picking one up to pair with my left over $60 RX580, and when i finally decided to buy they sold out....
Honestly this would be perfect for what i want. I have my series s for gta and red dead and i have my pc for some steam only games. Primarily indie games like phasmaphobia and lethal company
Performance so good almost seems to good to be true
Not bad for $100!
I have a dell xps 8900 is it worth it to upgrade to a pc like this?
Four threads with low clocks is just pretty "meh" these days. I'd try to get a slightly newer model with an i7-6700 and have a slightly bigger budget.
Or maybe I'm just too used to modern-ish hardware with my R7 5800X & R5 3600 rigs :D
thats a great video for younger or people which dont have a lot money!
I have a i7 3020 I want to turn into a gaming pc what’s ur advice
What 12gb will work for my 3020 Optiplex?
Hi Jason, I have a similar Dell optiplex like that one. Mine is an i5 4590 with a 500GB hard drive and a mix of DDR3 4Gb:x2 Ram that adds up to 8Gb Ram. And a 8pin Dell motherboard. I don't know how I can upgrade this kind of PC into a budget gaming PC? if you steel reply to your old video's it will mean a lot.
Hey buddy, I have an old video that’s called something like “I built a $200 PC” and it has a Dell optiplex in the thumbnail. It uses an optiplex that uses a similar CPU - might be helpful for you :) good luck!
@@JasonWitmerYT I will look into that video
I just want something to use as a printing station/ projector hub. Would one of those celeron laptops handle that?
absolutely - i just did a video on an acemagic laptop that would be perfect for that
@@JasonWitmerYT I’ll look it up, thanks!
Since Windows 10 is coming to an end in 2 years, and this pc can't be updated to Win 11, just use a Linux Distro like Linux Mint, Pop OS, Nobara, Ubuntu and Fedora, you can still use this PC for gaming. Overall, thanks for the video
could’ve saved a bit on the GPU. I got a used 1050ti for $40. Less VRAM, but for Fortnite and similar games, it’s great. The 580 is good for more recent games because of the vram but it gets hot.
I love the idea of refurbishing and using an old pc with used parts. It's so post-apocalyptic :D However, it would feel more "adequate" (perhaps?) if a hardwares of a certain era would be used with softwares (aka games) from the same era. GTA V is from a different age I guess...
Amazing that a 100 dollar PC could run cyberpunk at low settings.
Hi I need help building it
I'm very curious what's the highest this type of PC can emulate? Like any Wii or GameCube games?
It can definitely do PS2, GC, Wii, Wiiu, and probably PS3 but I can't say for sure.
@@JasonWitmerYT that's awesome and thanks for the speedy response! I'll probably follow your video again when making a cheap PC because idk much about PCs.
Can you suggest me some power supplies for this Optiplex 7020 ?
They would all fit and be compatible! Feel free to find one that fits your budget
@@JasonWitmerYT alrighty :)
win11 does work on older systems, just cant do it via upgrade from 10, need to do a fresh install with an iso
if its possbile while you are benchmarking could you show the 1% lows and 0.1% lows aswell?
Would that PCI-E adapter work well for a more powerful gpu (but still only single pin connector) ? I have an i7-8700 processor which is decent but it's in a proprietary system with no PSU upgrade option. The PSU is 250w so not that strong,. the TDP of the 8700 is 65w non-boosted. What's the max GPU TDP I should aim for? Or within safe range, I should say. I was thinking maybe the 4060 since it only has around 110w TDP and is a very powerful card, albeit probably overpriced.
Not worth the risk. If you’re going to buy a pricy GPU, replace the power supply.
@@JasonWitmerYT Ok. Thanks for getting back to me so soon!
@@JasonWitmerYTwhat power supply do you recommend?
what gpu would you recommend for ryzen 3 3200g with a asus prime a320m-k mother 500w psu and 16 gb 2933 mhz ram ?
You're kinda just posting this here hoping to get some advice from a video that's completely not even close to where you would normally want to find answers. A better place to look is forums/watch videos about what your cpu is capable of to match a gpu for your budget and put in a little work yourself (but trust me, I know we all start somewhere. Not looking down, just trying to help).
It's really hard to answer your question as we don't know the case dimensions you are working with, what resolution you want to play at, or your budget.
Good options at or under 100 are AMD rx580 8gb (go watch some videos on how to avoid bad ones, I believe ones that have 2048 Cuda cores are the ones to avoid) at 50 or so dollars
Nvidia Gtx 1070ti at 100ish
Rx5600xt for about 100ish (this only has 6 gigs of vram, but is what I use in my build and it's mostly fine for games at 1080p medium or high)
Rx5700xt for 120-140
Its hard to recommend you anything else as anything less than 8gb vram is VERY ill advised looking ahead.
If you are looking for new (that's worth your while) the bar for entry is basically 200$ with the AMD rx6600 or the intel a750 (6600 is preferred as it has better drivers and won't have a hard time as much as the internet card will)
GTX 1070 or RX 580 8gb for sure
I'd try to find a deal on a used RX 6600. Sure, you're going to be leaving a lot of performance on the table when paired with that CPU, but with the right settings and the frame rates capped to 60 (or 30 if the CPU isn't capable of 60 stable) to reduce stuttering, you'll do fine until you can afford a CPU upgrade. And even a used ryzen 5 3600 would be more than enough to last for a while when paired with a RX 6600.
I also put a similar build with my Optiplex, added an Asrock a320m/ac & R5 5500 & XFX RX 6600 & EVGA 500w 80+ bronze psu. I made a small cut out on the front panel to add a power switch, also you don’t have to but I would recommend adding a 120mm fan in front for good air flow before my 6600 at 100% was around 70c its not a bad temp but adding a front fan it was now hovering at 60c- 62c at 100% so it’s something to consider
What about the cost of the operating system?
I don’t know anything much about pcs but what components can I upgrade to get a slightly better fps? Willing to spend a bit more just for games like red dead to run perfect
i found a pc with a i7 12700k 32 gb ddr4 3600 mgh ram and a 850 watt power supply a montech case, 4 rgb fans, 2 tbof storage and a rx 6800 for just $250 I think it was good deal
i bought the pc
What about The operating system how much did that cost, ?
Free since it was baked into the Dell motherboard already
what win 10 11 ?
@@JasonWitmerYT
Somnambulist are great ssds I have a few in my system
My windows 11 iso has a registry that I added that bypasses the minimum requirements for windows 11. So I’m able to install windows 11 on 10 year old computers.
Once on amazon I found a PC for 300 euros with 4.7ghz 8 core 16 thread, 32gb ddr4 ram and 1tb ssd.
Just found a local dude with two Optiplex 3040s i5-6500, 12gb DDR3 1tb HDD for $35 each! What?!
Woop-woop!
The one I got was $24, it has an i3 4130, and 8 gb ddr3 ram.
5:25 does anybody know what adapter he used and how to use it bc i want to do this instead of using a low profile gpu
It’s in the description listed as “PCIe Adaptor”
@@JasonWitmerYT ahh ok thanks
Optiplex Gang back on the rise!
How in the hell does GTAV Run smoother on this PC than on my RX 6600 8gb and 5 3600 CPU 💀
Ewww you used ayyymd? I thought real friends dont let friends use ayyymd. Great vid bro ive missed you 😭
I’ll never leave again bro 🙏
do you know the ave wattage pull? rx 580 is a wattage hog at 150 max tdp. but i guess the i5 limits the 580 and will never run at 99%?
i got a 3020 sff was thinking about rx 6400 or 1650 low profile single slot Or should i remove the psu so i can slot in the cheaper 1080 or other full size card, als using power adapter cable to graphics card? hmmm what other options rx 550 would fit but is too old or 1050? what others are there
All good options, I’d say just stick with the RX 6400 👍
@@JasonWitmerYT ok thanks :)
Hi, I was wondering if a ndivia geoforce gt 710 graphics card would work with this? Thanks!
It would!
@@JasonWitmerYT Thanks so much! Quickest response time ever!
turn old business desktop into gaming pc for sure most cheapest alternative
Stick a Xeon E3-1241 V3 in it and its faster than an I7-4770 by 6% all for $15.
Hey just a question bit do you think a Dell OptiPlex 3050 SFF Desktop Computer Core i5 7th gen Processor 8GB RAM 120GB HDD 19" Monitor Wi-Fi Windows 10 Home could run vr ?
It would need a dedicated graphics card to run VR, unfortunately. The one you listed doesn’t have that
Ok thanks
@@JasonWitmerYT just a question but can you have a video about teaching the basic necessities to having a pc if you dont already