In case someone from 2024 with windows 11 is looking. Picked this up used and it works. Had to reinstall the drivers with the dock connected. Using Lenovo p14s 10th gen intel. Used the last 2018 drivers that were available.
Yknow this channel really reminds me of those cool early to mid-2000's tech shows. Just the intro, the voice, presentation. Wish this was still more prevalent. Rather, I wish that those tech shows were still around on TV.
I think the next innovative thing would be monitors with graphics card slot. That's the most common use case we have as of now. GPU and Monitor always stay at home and laptop travels. Why not combine GPU with monitor and eliminate the dock altogether? The monitor can have all the connectors which the dock would have. I'm not saying that docks should be discontinued, but integrated monitor is a good idea for most people.
That would be a cool solution, BUT that could potentially ruin Nvidia and AMD's free-sync and G-sync product line up as there would be no need to include such features with a direct GPU inbuilt in a monitor like such.
Well, one reason I can think of would be monitors needing replacements at a much slower rate than gpus. I wouldnt want to replace my display just to have a gpu upgrade.
Mohan Pednekar I’m considering buying it for my Lenovo X280 Laptop, but I don’t know it’s compatible my laptop? Can you let me know this dock working with my device? Tks a lot.
Real thumbs up . Firstly for non biased review and for clearing those things up. Specially the USB c and thunderbolt most people probably don't know. Thanks again .
Thank you so much to people like you! It's hard to catch up with every technology and excruciate details behind them. You make it simpler for all busy people out there. Keep going!
The lack of a passthrough Thunderbolt 3 port is probably in consideration of bandwidth issues. Same with the USB2 port. Running a GPU over TB3 eats a lot of the port's bandwidth, and trying to use another high bandwidth device at the same time would harm GPU performance.
Oh my god this .... is amazing. This product will allow me to create the unicorn of a computer I've wanted for years. Tablet based with good pen pressure, all battery, exceptional screen, portable but able to handle high level GPU tasks like GPU based rendering and gaming. So the Eve V plus this dock = unicorn for artists.
@@thedewuntain1336 yes and very well! almost as if the motherboard on the NUC was meant for high bandwidth thunderbolt 3 GPU's such as this one form Lenovo. At low graphical settings im locked at 75fps and working on a 75hz monitor. its amazing and super portable.
I use this with a 5th gen X1 carbon and get similar results. The X1 fan screams though so no idea really how loud the dock gets. I was looking to downsize and get rid of a lot of equipment and this did the trick for me.
Wow I've been waiting for one of these to hit the market, love the small form factor and it costs about the same as just an eGPU enclosure. If they could put 1060-level performance for not much higher cost you can take my money.
Thank you Lenovo for being the first! Now with TB3, GPUs should not only come with a PCIe connector but also with a (or more) TB3 connectors! So that you don't have to buy a separate enclosure to upgrade your GPU! :)
I think you bring up a great point about the gpu and cpu being independently cooled. I have a i7 8550 w/1050 gpu and the 1050 is significantly thermal throttling when gaming longer than 30 min. It’s made even worse since i have an ultrabook with one fan that’s responsible for cooling both components. This is forcing me to play at lower than 1080p resolutions even with a decent gpu. An egpu setup is really valuable in the thermal aspect because a giant dgpu doesn’t mean much if the cooling isn’t suffient. Also, it’s MUCH easier to control thermal throttling of the cpu on games than the gpu if only 1 fan is provided, just another advantage of an egpu!
I was so close to pulling the trigger on getting this but what turned me off was that lenovo has to update the drivers so as of right now the nvidia drivers are 6 months behind. :(
I dont think this is a threat to desktops, it makes more sense to slot in a GPU. Gaming laptops possibly, if you want a lighter quad core laptop to plug in to this. But the latest generation of thinner gaming laptops, weighing less than 2KG e.g MSI GS65 could make a gaming laptop more attractive, than this unit with its lower powered GPU and power brick. The other issue is that they only confirm compatibility with Lenovo laptops, with non lenovo at your own risk.
Quick update! My Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 Graphics dock is working like a champ! I highly recommend you download nVidia Experience to update the GPU. Also be warned this will not work for all setups...I can confirm that it does work the on 8th gen Intel NUCs. HOWEVER setting up TB3 is an absoulte nightmare and caused many restarts, many re-installs, many firmware and driver updates...after about an hour or so of pulling my hair out I finally got it working and let me tell you it handles like a champ! THe cool thing about the INTEL NUC motherboards is that via XMP enabling you can share your systems RAM with your GPU's RAM....with 32gb setups its handling 2k at 55-65fps.
I just bought a lenovo yoga c940 and realized it does not have dedicated a graphics card. will this type of eGPU work with it? My laptop has intel i7 10th generation.
During your first impression video my interest was piqued. Now though, seeing that you have to rely on Lenovo to release NVidia drivers themselves makes me second guess the dock. Anyway, great review. Yours are always a good watch.
It's cheaper and smaller than other eGPU solutions seems to be a good deal and one that you could throw in a bag. This includes the 1050 most of these boxes don't
It's possible to override the laptop manufacturer's custom graphics drivers and manually push through the more recent drivers directly from the graphics card vendor. I tried this method on my Lenovo X1 Yoga Pro Gen 2 and successfully overrode the Lenovo customized Intel HD Graphics driver: steamcommunity[dot] com/app/233250/discussions/2/558749190911446231 . Now I can just update via Intel's graphics drivers directly, and haven't noticed any issues. However, as the link above recommends, you should probably have a rollback plan (i.e. making a restore point prior to the update), in case it doesn't work on your particular configuration.
I think this egpu is a balance to work with an ultra book, which is usually lack the dedicated gpu. So that people can get the game power and mobility at the same time. It is not design as a gaming power horse, but a portable gaming.
I agree, or maybe have 2 SKU's one with the 1050 and one with a 1060/1070 max-q. Unfortunately I'm sure they chose such a low powered gpu because of the current gpu market
The difference between the Ti- and non-Ti-card is not that great. Yes, it's certainly measurable but for day-to-day use the difference is negligible. Anyone needing more power than a 1050 offer can always be looking at other options, for example the Razor Core or similar enclosure offering the option to use any kind of graphics card. Yes, Lenovo could have added a 1050 Ti. And I'm 100 percent certain someone would have said in a comment "Would be nice if it had the 1060 instead of just the 1050 Ti".
They’d have to use an M model of the card if they intended on pushing it beyond a 1050ti and keeping the same form factor. There’s no way in hell you could power a desktop 1070 AND quickcharge a laptop with a power brick like that.
A very likeable man. I'm worried. i just bought a Lenovo c940 with latest 10th gen processor i5 8gb RAM and worried it is probably not gonna be enough for light 4k video editing (no colour correction or anything) Saw this though and made me wonder if it will make a difference to my laptop. Like if I use this external gpu will I get better performance and somehow be able to knock out a few 4k videos?
all of the Intel iGPUs are creap, so any external GPU will give you an significant uplift in performance, I would recommend using a "proper" eGPU enclosure though, since you won't be able to upgrade neither the GPU drivers nor the GPU itself in that Lenovo TB Dock
Hello, I wonder if I can buy a converter from thunderbolt 3 to old version of thunderbolt. I have the HP Zbook 15 i7 4th gen. Do you think will it work?
I bought this but my Lenovo yoga 720 isn't recognizing it when I try to update firmwear, and I get a 7zip error when I try to download the driver. any help would be appreciated!
Will this work with a thinkpad w541, internal Gpu k1100m with a thunderbolt connection? Just bought one off eBay, didn't do research about graphics card, soldered to mother board (sad face)
Lon my man, you should have plug the monitor with the dock not the laptop because the laptop require additional bandwidth just to get the image back from egpu so it hurts performance really bad
In case someone from 2024 with windows 11 is looking. Picked this up used and it works. Had to reinstall the drivers with the dock connected. Using Lenovo p14s 10th gen intel. Used the last 2018 drivers that were available.
Yknow this channel really reminds me of those cool early to mid-2000's tech shows. Just the intro, the voice, presentation. Wish this was still more prevalent. Rather, I wish that those tech shows were still around on TV.
It breaks my heart when I look at you subscribed number. Man you really deserve a much bigger audience.
I think the next innovative thing would be monitors with graphics card slot. That's the most common use case we have as of now. GPU and Monitor always stay at home and laptop travels. Why not combine GPU with monitor and eliminate the dock altogether? The monitor can have all the connectors which the dock would have.
I'm not saying that docks should be discontinued, but integrated monitor is a good idea for most people.
Sounds like a good idea. Should be the next thing. Until then you could mount the dock on the screen.
That would be a cool solution, BUT that could potentially ruin Nvidia and AMD's free-sync and G-sync product line up as there would be no need to include such features with a direct GPU inbuilt in a monitor like such.
Well, one reason I can think of would be monitors needing replacements at a much slower rate than gpus. I wouldnt want to replace my display just to have a gpu upgrade.
Mohan Pednekar I’m considering buying it for my Lenovo X280 Laptop, but I don’t know it’s compatible my laptop? Can you let me know this dock working with my device? Tks a lot.
sometimes u might want to get you egpu with you, so i will always prompt for external enclosure
Man I thought I was watching something from the 90s.
Damn Lon I love this thing thanks for featuring it on your amazing channel!
Would ithelp with movie editing? Using i7 8th gen intel
Real thumbs up . Firstly for non biased review and for clearing those things up. Specially the USB c and thunderbolt most people probably don't know. Thanks again .
I really like how this is your own review, they didn’t buy a good opinion from you, and it makes these videos very interesting to watch
Thank you so much to people like you!
It's hard to catch up with every technology and excruciate details behind them.
You make it simpler for all busy people out there. Keep going!
The lack of a passthrough Thunderbolt 3 port is probably in consideration of bandwidth issues. Same with the USB2 port. Running a GPU over TB3 eats a lot of the port's bandwidth, and trying to use another high bandwidth device at the same time would harm GPU performance.
Oh my god this .... is amazing. This product will allow me to create the unicorn of a computer I've wanted for years. Tablet based with good pen pressure, all battery, exceptional screen, portable but able to handle high level GPU tasks like GPU based rendering and gaming. So the Eve V plus this dock = unicorn for artists.
Yes, spend over 1000 on a MacBook and then Spend 300-400 dollars more for an egpu if you want to game. Nice budget option
I hardly see anyone using MacBook.
Bought the dock and it worked for a bit then stopped detecting display. Any suggestions?
Getting this for my NUC setup. Thanks for the amazing review!
@@thedewuntain1336 yes and very well! almost as if the motherboard on the NUC was meant for high bandwidth thunderbolt 3 GPU's such as this one form Lenovo. At low graphical settings im locked at 75fps and working on a 75hz monitor. its amazing and super portable.
Really well produced and informative. Thank you very much!
Awesome work non of the big channels covered this awesome product keep it up
I use this with a 5th gen X1 carbon and get similar results. The X1 fan screams though so no idea really how loud the dock gets. I was looking to downsize and get rid of a lot of equipment and this did the trick for me.
Wow I've been waiting for one of these to hit the market, love the small form factor and it costs about the same as just an eGPU enclosure. If they could put 1060-level performance for not much higher cost you can take my money.
Very interesting. ..as always Lon bring the best tech reviews ...thanks
Do we can use eGPU on tablet like matepad?
What's Up Dock???!!!! (Sorry, had to do it)
Wow this is a dope item
Love to see more reviews
Wonder what new tech is to come thanks to the GPU shortage going around.
LOL... that new disclaimer though! Lon is like " lemmie speak real slow so these haters can up their comprehension skills" haha
Thank you Lenovo for being the first! Now with TB3, GPUs should not only come with a PCIe connector but also with a (or more) TB3 connectors! So that you don't have to buy a separate enclosure to upgrade your GPU! :)
It's out of stock everywhere, hope it's back in stock soon.
I think you bring up a great point about the gpu and cpu being independently cooled. I have a i7 8550 w/1050 gpu and the 1050 is significantly thermal throttling when gaming longer than 30 min. It’s made even worse since i have an ultrabook with one fan that’s responsible for cooling both components. This is forcing me to play at lower than 1080p resolutions even with a decent gpu. An egpu setup is really valuable in the thermal aspect because a giant dgpu doesn’t mean much if the cooling isn’t suffient. Also, it’s MUCH easier to control thermal throttling of the cpu on games than the gpu if only 1 fan is provided, just another advantage of an egpu!
I was so close to pulling the trigger on getting this but what turned me off was that lenovo has to update the drivers so as of right now the nvidia drivers are 6 months behind. :(
Do you need an external display or can use the laptop's display only?
can we use this in all in one pc (Lenovo 10102) waiting for your reply
These gadgets are definitely becoming a threat to gaming laptops and desktops....
I dont think this is a threat to desktops, it makes more sense to slot in a GPU. Gaming laptops possibly, if you want a lighter quad core laptop to plug in to this. But the latest generation of thinner gaming laptops, weighing less than 2KG e.g MSI GS65 could make a gaming laptop more attractive, than this unit with its lower powered GPU and power brick. The other issue is that they only confirm compatibility with Lenovo laptops, with non lenovo at your own risk.
nah.. it will be more economical to buy a desktop or a gaming laptop
Nice review! I don't see *any* reviews of Lenovo's T580. I'd love to see you make one!
Quick update! My Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 Graphics dock is working like a champ! I highly recommend you download nVidia Experience to update the GPU. Also be warned this will not work for all setups...I can confirm that it does work the on 8th gen Intel NUCs. HOWEVER setting up TB3 is an absoulte nightmare and caused many restarts, many re-installs, many firmware and driver updates...after about an hour or so of pulling my hair out I finally got it working and let me tell you it handles like a champ! THe cool thing about the INTEL NUC motherboards is that via XMP enabling you can share your systems RAM with your GPU's RAM....with 32gb setups its handling 2k at 55-65fps.
I have to say this is one of the best channel
I just bought a lenovo yoga c940 and realized it does not have dedicated a graphics card. will this type of eGPU work with it? My laptop has intel i7 10th generation.
This item has been discontinued by Lenovo. Do you have any idea why and is there a thunderbolt 3 dock out there currently with a built in eGPU?
Is there anything else like this from other manufactures ? Or a new version coming? Cant find these available anymore...
What's the difference between this and an egpu besides the fact that it's smaller but can't be upgraded
I want to ask if this Graphics dock would work with HP laptop 15s?
Can you use this dock as a standalone graphics for laptop? Do I have to plug in to a monitor to play games?
Please can you tell me if it is compatible with my lenovo thinkpad E480 (Type 20KN, 20KQ) Laptop (ThinkPad)?
So will this work with any laptop with a thunderbolt port or just lenovo computers? And with Ubuntu/Linux?
Did you think could works on a lenovo thinkpad L570 i5 vpro 7thGen ?
I have a w540 and I think it supports express-card and thunderbolt 2. Which eGPU is better and how can I connect it to the laptop?
The review was great. I was expecting information about multiple displays support such as 2 or 3 external monitor in extended display mode.
We need someone to make a dock like this but with a replacable MXM Type A or preferably Type B card.
Sonnet uses mxm type b in their egpu/doco solution
During your first impression video my interest was piqued. Now though, seeing that you have to rely on Lenovo to release NVidia drivers themselves makes me second guess the dock. Anyway, great review. Yours are always a good watch.
I have a lenovo thinkpad t410, can I connect the dock there is a cable that converts old usb to usb c? Or the thunderbolt port should be native?
Do you need the power supply in order to make the graphics card work? Or it can run from the power from laptop?
This is a lot of helpful info and run through. Thank you!
If it was a 1060 then it may be worthwhile for that price.
$400
Gtx 1050: around $200
Metal + ports + extra stuff: minimum $50-$100
Profit for Lenovo: $50-$150
I think it's pretty worth it
It's cheaper and smaller than other eGPU solutions seems to be a good deal and one that you could throw in a bag. This includes the 1050 most of these boxes don't
@@9mmomo its 200 dollars for a gtx 1050ti not 1050
K1D_NEMEZIZ in my country it is.
Facts right here
Hey i have a thinkpad t470 with 7th gen i7 and a 940mx 2gb ddr5 and 32gb ram, can i game without throttling on this machine on the go?
It's possible to override the laptop manufacturer's custom graphics drivers and manually push through the more recent drivers directly from the graphics card vendor. I tried this method on my Lenovo X1 Yoga Pro Gen 2 and successfully overrode the Lenovo customized Intel HD Graphics driver: steamcommunity[dot] com/app/233250/discussions/2/558749190911446231 . Now I can just update via Intel's graphics drivers directly, and haven't noticed any issues. However, as the link above recommends, you should probably have a rollback plan (i.e. making a restore point prior to the update), in case it doesn't work on your particular configuration.
I think this egpu is a balance to work with an ultra book, which is usually lack the dedicated gpu. So that people can get the game power and mobility at the same time. It is not design as a gaming power horse, but a portable gaming.
Would be nice if it had the 1050 Ti instead of just the 1050
then it would cost $549 not $399
DigitalYojimbo Actually it would be £449 but I get your point
I agree, or maybe have 2 SKU's one with the 1050 and one with a 1060/1070 max-q. Unfortunately I'm sure they chose such a low powered gpu because of the current gpu market
The difference between the Ti- and non-Ti-card is not that great. Yes, it's certainly measurable but for day-to-day use the difference is negligible. Anyone needing more power than a 1050 offer can always be looking at other options, for example the Razor Core or similar enclosure offering the option to use any kind of graphics card. Yes, Lenovo could have added a 1050 Ti. And I'm 100 percent certain someone would have said in a comment "Would be nice if it had the 1060 instead of just the 1050 Ti".
They’d have to use an M model of the card if they intended on pushing it beyond a 1050ti and keeping the same form factor. There’s no way in hell you could power a desktop 1070 AND quickcharge a laptop with a power brick like that.
Ok I only watched it to the part you said it worked only with Lenovo. Thanks for the reply, I’ll make sure to watch it.
D1mj28 he said it would work with any windows laptop but you need to install a program from Lenovo
D1mj28, Lenovo only guarantees it works with some of their laptops. So it could work with other laptops, it's just not tested for it.
A very likeable man. I'm worried. i just bought a Lenovo c940 with latest 10th gen processor i5 8gb RAM and worried it is probably not gonna be enough for light 4k video editing (no colour correction or anything) Saw this though and made me wonder if it will make a difference to my laptop. Like if I use this external gpu will I get better performance and somehow be able to knock out a few 4k videos?
all of the Intel iGPUs are creap, so any external GPU will give you an significant uplift in performance, I would recommend using a "proper" eGPU enclosure though, since you won't be able to upgrade neither the GPU drivers nor the GPU itself in that Lenovo TB Dock
Hopefully docks with mobile GPUs become a thing.
Does this work with a Mac running Windows via Bootcamp?
Hello, I wonder if I can buy a converter from thunderbolt 3 to old version of thunderbolt. I have the HP Zbook 15 i7 4th gen. Do you think will it work?
I bought this but my Lenovo yoga 720 isn't recognizing it when I try to update firmwear, and I get a 7zip error when I try to download the driver. any help would be appreciated!
Hey lon,just wondering if there is a laptop(that is compatible with the dock) at least 8gb of ram,smaller than 14” screen under 700$ ?
Without advanced heat dissipation, will throttle a lot?
Can u close the laptop? And still use?
Would this work for x280? So nervous to buy this thing without knowing it works or not
i wanted to ask that, can we put a graphic card in all in one pcs it is possible please please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It doesn't work with the new X1 Carbon？I have last year's X1C and I wonder is it gonna work.
Is it compatible with the Lenovo Yoga 920?
Will this work with a thinkpad w541, internal Gpu k1100m with a thunderbolt connection? Just bought one off eBay, didn't do research about graphics card, soldered to mother board (sad face)
I have an HP all in one. Will this work with my desktop? There is not native GPU solution.
Only if it has a thunderbolt 3 connector.
is that compatible with macbook pro 13 2018?
Where can we buy the dock in 2020 ? I live in France, Thanks :)
Its compatible at LAPTOP i5 8th Gen LENOVO ideapad 320?
I have 8th Gen Lenovo but no tb :(
Will it work if I had a lightning to usb c cable????
Does it support all Lenovo laptops
I would be the happiest user if they would make a Thinkpad mechanical dock with dedicated gpu.
Are there ANY external gpu's that don't use thunderbolt 3?
i wish i could get this but seems like its an antique from past now
One question:
If I buy this dock he doens't works in my Dell Ultrabook? :(
Thank you Lon. Great review.
Is this still available ? Can't find it for sale in the UK?
Is this compatible with the lenovo 320 models?
But is it Mac compatible? And boot Camp?
very technical review ! i love it
Is it a full desktop or mobile gpu tho?
Great review,Great personality. You are awesome man , greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦💞
هلا بالعيال
When I play fortnite it so lagg if I buy use this it will work ?!
what about 4k video editing?
Really nice idea. With a 1050Ti it would be more interesting
Lon my man, you should have plug the monitor with the dock not the laptop because the laptop require additional bandwidth just to get the image back from egpu so it hurts performance really bad
Does this work with USB C OTG?
what the laptop are used you i love thinkpad
Will this work on the Lenovo C740 Yoga
Hey guys, which eGPU do you recommend for an ASUS F54UV?
Thanks for your attention
Will this work with the Huawei Matebook x Pro?
Nice video. But have you tried bootcamping into Windows 10 on your Mac to see if that worked?
Thunderbolt3 can output max 100watts, why a big power supply for a 1050?
Hi anyone help me understand T480 thinkpad can use other thunderbolt 3 external GPU?
Can not find it in any store in sweden. Any reasons why?
Can you explain how to use it thanks
Will it work for dell