Thank you. Fifteen minutes ago, I didn't know what I had. Now I know how it works, what it looks like, how to put some extra turns on the drum, and most importantly, how to drop and raise the sail when I need to. Job well done!
Exactly Chris, been looking at my old furling gear trying to figure out how to bend the foresails on... ex owner used several racing sails on furler and all stripped.. Great video many thanks
Really useful video. I have bought a boat with roller furling on both Genoa and Main, the Main was fitted by a rigger but not the Genoa and I have been wondering how to rig this myself, every other video I have watched tells me how to rig the sail but noting about the drum. having watched you, I now know, thanks.
This was perfect. I was wondering how to tighten the sail after furling. It was great last season but when it was put back up this year I lost the extra turns. Now I know how to do it. Fantastic!! Many thanks.
Excellent video.Good photography and articulate explanation.Was unaware of the existence of a plastic jib feeder.My first experience will be in a week or two for haulout and bottom paint. Thank you for time and effort to help those of us to learn an important procedure easier than otherwise.Good sailing.Rick in Seattle
OMG this is a great video. We your procedure and the only thing the stumped us was our halyard had a bunch of twists in it. When we raised the halyard it would wrap it self around the furler shaft. We un did the bowline knot from the top of the furler, took the twists out of the halyard rope and retied the halyard to the top of the furler mechanism and bingo, the halyard raised the sail with the expected effort and did not twist around the upper furler shaft (tube?). Thanks so much for this video.
Well done! We were sailing yesterday (Howe sound, British Columbia ) and we decided to change the smaller jib with a larger one, so in the middle of the water, we hove to, brought the smaller down and raised the larger one but it wouldn’t feed properly, it pinched several time on the way up.... oh man, what a miserable job! Thank you for the tips here, I will get that feeder for next time!
That was very interesting. I always wondered about how the jib got attached and you’ve made it very clear and informative. Thank you for the video and tips.
Great video and great timing for us. Like you, we took all canvas off prior to both recent hurricanes that hit FL and GA in Sept. We are going to hoist the jib this coming weekend. Our assignment is to watch your video 3X for mental practice. This is very helpful to us.
Thanks for the video ! We've had our Sailboat for awhile and didn't know how to rig the Jib with a Harkin we had not used before . Getting about 30 turns on the drum was important ! With the Harkin being so old and not used for a while I used a Silicon Spray (not petroleum based !) to lubricate and loosen up the unit .
Great presentation. Installing the jib and main on the mooring or on the anchor keeps the boat into the wind and keeps them luffing. For those of us who are docked we either wait for a very light wind to do the job or what I do is motor out and drop the hook in the bay.
I'm pushing 60 and trying to learn. This video is why however, this video is also why my father has twin Yamaha 225's on his thirty foot walk around. He tells me he wants to get there and I remind him of that old tale of a tortoise and a hare. Haha thank you sir!
Thanks for sharing. One thing I do when single handed is to take a spare piece of rope and attach it to the jib halyard, take a half turn around the winch, then walk up to the jib. This works great until it becomes too much to hoist by hand.
I assume you mean attach the spare rope to the jib halyard BEFORE going forward and manually passing the luff into the grooves and then raising the jib...thanks for the tip, a good one. I guess you can maybe save a trip back and forth.
Excellent video! I'm teaching the United States Power Squadrons' (America's Boating Club) Sail course, and I wanted to show how this worked better than some still pictures or diagrams in the book. You knocked it out of the park!
Enjoyed and learnt watching your video, thanks so much for uploading and sharing. Ive never actually done this from scratch like you just did and now I have a good idea how to go about it if I ever need to. Happy sailing days to you!
I have a furlex roller furling system and the prefeeder is on elastic bungee that goes round a wheel at the bottom swivel up to the first joint. It's also much tighter than this as you have to stretch the bungee and tie it off at 300mm so quite springy. Seems quite effective.
When you said you brought your job sheets in, I think you meant your lines. You have one sheet, and it’s already forward, bro. But we were all amateurs once, I suppose. Keep at it; you can get there!
Very good . Very useful instruction. Is it really possible for a sailor, to be a gentleman? And a scholar too? 😁 ha ha. Thank you. I love learning stuff online, about sails in particular.
This is great! Sail newbie here: why would you not extend the halyard around a free running winch, and be able to stand on the bow, and haul in halyard while monitoring/feeding bead into extruded profile?
As you can see in the video, due to the amount of friction in the luff groove, you need to crank the winch to raise the sail...which you could not do from the bow.
My boat’s on the hard, on jack stands. Is it safe to raise and furl the jib where it stands or should the boat be in the water? I’m concerned that, if the wind catches the jib, the boat might be disturbed on the stands.
Yes, the reason for releasing the halyard tension is so the jib luff is not being stretched over the days (or weeks) in between use. Anfd yes, before you deploy the jib to use it, you should add that tension back into the luff.
Last time I hoisted my genoa the halliard kept twisting around the foil and causing too much friction for the sail to hoist. I had to put a light line through the head shackle and lead both ends aft so I could keep them under tension whilst hoisting. I was then able to slip one end of the light line when the sail was nearly fully hoisted. There did not appear to be any twist in the halliard so I am not sure why this happened and would appreciate any tips on preventing it from happening again as it made a simple job a right pain.
Was there a "downhaul" component to this furling system? I installed the jib on a furles 100S with a friend after the recent hurricane and now I notice some luff tape that looks like it should be placed in the groove heading down from the feeder.
There is no down haul feature in our system, or in general in most roller furlers. Once the sail is close to full hoist height, further tightening of the halyard should remove any slack in the luff and give you a little crease in the sail, from head to tack. Assuming you have a fully hoisted sail with a, tensioned luff, than if there is some tape still below the feeder, may just be the result of how high the rigger positioned the feeder versus how long a length of tape the sailmaker happened to put on the sail. There may not be any science to either of those... Provided the sail luff is tensioned from head to foot, it's hard to guess what concern you need to have.
@@SailFanatics OK, thanks for that. I will ensure we fully hoisted the sail.. That might explain seeing some of the luff tape with the rope hanging below the feeder.
What was done works OK with little wind, nose pointing into the wind, and calm water. What about needing to single-handedly install a jib/Genoa while either 1) in a slip with strong winds blowing from an unfavorable direction or 2) single-handed in strong winds and very bouncy water? Single-handed under conditions 1) or 2) I would strongly prefer a hanked-on sail.
Its a strange premise to imagine a situation where circumstances mandate that you hoist a jib in a slip. I mean the jib's no use until the boat leaves the slip, well hoist it then. If there's no option to wait, you could remove the sheet and hoist the jib, then furl it and re-attach the sheets. An attempt like this would take some thinking. I would agree that its easier to attach a hanked on jib in squirrely conditions, because you do actually need to raise the jib while attaching it, but switching taped sails can be done, just a little carefully. But this benefit is of little import compared to the benefits of jib furling,, which allows you an extra 20-30 minutes of sailing every time you use the boat, versus wrestling with hanks. I've sailed dozens of years with furling jibs and dont recall one situation where I would prefer to again be wrestling with hanks.
Hello. Nice video. One question, why is there 2 extrusion grooves? What's the logical reason for that? Sorry the noob question, but i'm not a sailor, but looking forward to be one day. :)
Two grooves allow you to raise a second jib while the first is still raised. This is a common technique for racing sailors who want to change the jib without going jib-les during the switch (to do this require you to not be using the furling system) Also you raise a second jib for running downwind under twin headsails.
Check back to 10:55 in the video. I bring the jib sheets forward to the furler, and rotate the sail/furler/sheets three turns clockwise. This procedure adds more turns to the furling line on the drum. Then reset the jibsheets and furler line.
I know you asked it a year ago but I though my answer might help either you or somebody else. I installed an anchor holder bracket to mine which looks like those light fixtures from this angle.
If your sail is setup to go into a furling system, there should be a plastic bead running the edge of the entire luff of the sail, as shown in the video. If the bead won't fit into the furler extrusion, its an incorrect size. You need to have a sailmaker replace the luff tape with a new tape that has the correct size bead for your furling system. Or ar you looking as some rope sewn just inside the luff, used by some sailmakers to bulk the the luff when furling? If so, that does not go into the furler. If this doesn't answer your question, join Sailnet and post this question together with a picture of the sails luff.
I wish I knew which shackles to use on the top and bottom of the head roller. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, why don’t you just put a couple of turns of the halyard around the drum, and then go forward with the bitter end and you can raise and Feed at the same time?
I find you need to use the winch to hoist the sail into the luff extrusion, which is much easier to do via the winch handle than by hand. When properly positioned, the pre-feeder works like a charm, and you avoid the hassle of ducking the sail when its part way up and luffing about.
Thank you. Fifteen minutes ago, I didn't know what I had. Now I know how it works, what it looks like, how to put some extra turns on the drum, and most importantly, how to drop and raise the sail when I need to. Job well done!
Exactly Chris, been looking at my old furling gear trying to figure out how to bend the foresails on... ex owner used several racing sails on furler and all stripped..
Great video many thanks
You can't imagine how this video helped me learn those basics. Thank you very much sir.
Really useful video. I have bought a boat with roller furling on both Genoa and Main, the Main was fitted by a rigger but not the Genoa and I have been wondering how to rig this myself, every other video I have watched tells me how to rig the sail but noting about the drum. having watched you, I now know, thanks.
Thx I just brought a yatch with the jib in the cabin. With no experience with a roller furling system this vid is the best I've come across.
Best video explaining this! Helped me tremendously. Thank you
This was perfect. I was wondering how to tighten the sail after furling. It was great last season but when it was put back up this year I lost the extra turns. Now I know how to do it. Fantastic!! Many thanks.
Excellent video.Good photography and articulate explanation.Was unaware of the existence of a plastic jib feeder.My first experience will be in a week or two for haulout and bottom paint. Thank you for time and effort to help those of us to learn an important procedure easier than otherwise.Good sailing.Rick in Seattle
OMG this is a great video. We your procedure and the only thing the stumped us was our halyard had a bunch of twists in it. When we raised the halyard it would wrap it self around the furler shaft. We un did the bowline knot from the top of the furler, took the twists out of the halyard rope and retied the halyard to the top of the furler mechanism and bingo, the halyard raised the sail with the expected effort and did not twist around the upper furler shaft (tube?). Thanks so much for this video.
Well done! We were sailing yesterday (Howe sound, British Columbia ) and we decided to change the smaller jib with a larger one, so in the middle of the water, we hove to, brought the smaller down and raised the larger one but it wouldn’t feed properly, it pinched several time on the way up.... oh man, what a miserable job! Thank you for the tips here, I will get that feeder for next time!
This video is incredibly helpful. Thank you.
That was very interesting. I always wondered about how the jib got attached and you’ve made it very clear and informative. Thank you for the video and tips.
Just brought a Peterson 30 with a furler. Good information presented in a clear concise manner.
Thanks a lot - clear and easy to follow, most useful for me!
Great video and great timing for us. Like you, we took all canvas off prior to both recent hurricanes that hit FL and GA in Sept. We are going to hoist the jib this coming weekend. Our assignment is to watch your video 3X for mental practice. This is very helpful to us.
Thank you so much for the video. Been looking for this for a long time and now I know how it is done.
Thanks so much for your excellent example it's the best one I've found on the internet yet. Simple and intelligent.
Devloo
Thanks for the kind comment, much appreciated!
Thanks for the video ! We've had our Sailboat for awhile and didn't know how to rig the Jib with a Harkin we had not used before . Getting about 30 turns on the drum was important ! With the Harkin being so old and not used for a while I used a Silicon Spray (not petroleum based !) to lubricate and loosen up the unit .
Thank yo so much! This is so helpful!
Great presentation. Installing the jib and main on the mooring or on the anchor keeps the boat into the wind and keeps them luffing. For those of us who are docked we either wait for a very light wind to do the job or what I do is motor out and drop the hook in the bay.
I'm pushing 60 and trying to learn. This video is why however, this video is also why my father has twin Yamaha 225's on his thirty foot walk around. He tells me he wants to get there and I remind him of that old tale of a tortoise and a hare. Haha thank you sir!
Thanks for sharing.
One thing I do when single handed is to take a spare piece of rope and attach it to the jib halyard, take a half turn around the winch, then walk up to the jib. This works great until it becomes too much to hoist by hand.
I assume you mean attach the spare rope to the jib halyard BEFORE going forward and manually passing the luff into the grooves and then raising the jib...thanks for the tip, a good one. I guess you can maybe save a trip back and forth.
Excellent video! I'm teaching the United States Power Squadrons' (America's Boating Club) Sail course, and I wanted to show how this worked better than some still pictures or diagrams in the book. You knocked it out of the park!
Excellent share, well done demonstration and explanation - thanks.
What a great video! I needed a bit of a "refresher" course. Thank you!
Thanks very much, your video was very helpful to me. It looks like you're sailing a Pearson! I have a Pearson 28-2. This is Robert in Sverna Park, MD.
Great video... thanks so much.. directions are not good in pamphlet they put out. So your two videos saved me!
Great information! Especially about the lift assist and the turns!
Just got a harken mkiv nice video tomorrow I’m sure i will get my sail on no problem. Thanks!
Great that you show how a single person can do it.
Super helpful. Thank you! Just got boat with Facnor system and not a clue how to rig genny- this was perfect.
thanks for taking the time to make this excellent and informative video - this will help me - THANK YOU!!!
Thank you, answered a few questions I had.
Excellent video it really helped me install my new furling system.
That was a very good demonstration
Excellent video and explanation. Thanks very much.
Thanks for taking the time to help others
I have learned so much from your videos, thank you very much.
Thanks! Keep 'em coming.
Enjoyed and learnt watching your video, thanks so much for uploading and sharing. Ive never actually done this from scratch like you just did and now I have a good idea how to go about it if I ever need to. Happy sailing days to you!
very informative for a wanna be sailor, like myself, thank you.
Thank you! Very helpful and informative.
Thanks for the video. Very helpful.
I have a furlex roller furling system and the prefeeder is on elastic bungee that goes round a wheel at the bottom swivel up to the first joint. It's also much tighter than this as you have to stretch the bungee and tie it off at 300mm so quite springy. Seems quite effective.
Terrific. That is what í was looking for. I will see this video always. Thank you so much
Most excellent video, thank you😊😊
When you said you brought your job sheets in, I think you meant your lines. You have one sheet, and it’s already forward, bro.
But we were all amateurs once, I suppose. Keep at it; you can get there!
You’re a jerk.
Very good . Very useful instruction. Is it really possible for a sailor, to be a gentleman? And a scholar too? 😁 ha ha. Thank you. I love learning stuff online, about sails in particular.
i just bring the halyard to the fore stay and feed the sail with one hand and haul with the other
Nice informative video thank you
Excellent video. Thank you
Thank You for your instruction...God Bless!!
This is great! Sail newbie here: why would you not extend the halyard around a free running winch, and be able to stand on the bow, and haul in halyard while monitoring/feeding bead into extruded profile?
As you can see in the video, due to the amount of friction in the luff groove, you need to crank the winch to raise the sail...which you could not do from the bow.
Thank you! Helped a lot. Are those sea turtles photobombing your video?!?!
What sort of boat is this? She's a beauty!
Helpful thanks.
Thank you, this was very helpful!
Beautiful Salem Harbor
Thanks!
My boat’s on the hard, on jack stands. Is it safe to raise and furl the jib where it stands or should the boat be in the water? I’m concerned that, if the wind catches the jib, the boat might be disturbed on the stands.
Small question,you mention at the end that you release some tension on the jib halyard ,is that normal ,do you retention that before you sail ???.
Yes, the reason for releasing the halyard tension is so the jib luff is not being stretched over the days (or weeks) in between use. Anfd yes, before you deploy the jib to use it, you should add that tension back into the luff.
@@SailFanatics great I’m glad I asked thx
Last time I hoisted my genoa the halliard kept twisting around the foil and causing too much friction for the sail to hoist. I had to put a light line through the head shackle and lead both ends aft so I could keep them under tension whilst hoisting. I was then able to slip one end of the light line when the sail was nearly fully hoisted. There did not appear to be any twist in the halliard so I am not sure why this happened and would appreciate any tips on preventing it from happening again as it made a simple job a right pain.
ecxellent Sir! Much appriciated
Thank you sir
Was there a "downhaul" component to this furling system? I installed the jib on a furles 100S with a friend after the recent hurricane and now I notice some luff tape that looks like it should be placed in the groove heading down from the feeder.
There is no down haul feature in our system, or in general in most roller furlers.
Once the sail is close to full hoist height, further tightening of the halyard should remove any slack in the luff and give you a little crease in the sail, from head to tack. Assuming you have a fully hoisted sail with a, tensioned luff, than if there is some tape still below the feeder, may just be the result of how high the rigger positioned the feeder versus how long a length of tape the sailmaker happened to put on the sail. There may not be any science to either of those... Provided the sail luff is tensioned from head to foot, it's hard to guess what concern you need to have.
@@SailFanatics OK, thanks for that. I will ensure we fully hoisted the sail.. That might explain seeing some of the luff tape with the rope hanging below the feeder.
fantastic video Thanks.
What was done works OK with little wind, nose pointing into the wind, and calm water. What about needing to single-handedly install a jib/Genoa while either 1) in a slip with strong winds blowing from an unfavorable direction or 2) single-handed in strong winds and very bouncy water? Single-handed under conditions 1) or 2) I would strongly prefer a hanked-on sail.
Its a strange premise to imagine a situation where circumstances mandate that you hoist a jib in a slip. I mean the jib's no use until the boat leaves the slip, well hoist it then. If there's no option to wait, you could remove the sheet and hoist the jib, then furl it and re-attach the sheets. An attempt like this would take some thinking.
I would agree that its easier to attach a hanked on jib in squirrely conditions, because you do actually need to raise the jib while attaching it, but switching taped sails can be done, just a little carefully.
But this benefit is of little import compared to the benefits of jib furling,, which allows you an extra 20-30 minutes of sailing every time you use the boat, versus wrestling with hanks. I've sailed dozens of years with furling jibs and dont recall one situation where I would prefer to again be wrestling with hanks.
Hello.
Nice video.
One question, why is there 2 extrusion grooves? What's the logical reason for that?
Sorry the noob question, but i'm not a sailor, but looking forward to be one day. :)
Two grooves allow you to raise a second jib while the first is still raised. This is a common technique for racing sailors who want to change the jib without going jib-les during the switch (to do this require you to not be using the furling system)
Also you raise a second jib for running downwind under twin headsails.
@@SailFanatics Also you raise a second jib for running downwind under twin headsails.----can You, please explain step by step how to do that?
Thank you
How do you put the “extra turns “ in? I’ve never worked w a furler before
Check back to 10:55 in the video. I bring the jib sheets forward to the furler, and rotate the sail/furler/sheets three turns clockwise. This procedure adds more turns to the furling line on the drum. Then reset the jibsheets and furler line.
What is that little mount on the bow rail seen in 6:04? I have one in my boat from the previous owner and don’t know what it is for.
Taylor
The only item I notice is the bow running lights fixture which is located at the center of the bow rail...
Tom
I know you asked it a year ago but I though my answer might help either you or somebody else. I installed an anchor holder bracket to mine which looks like those light fixtures from this angle.
My sail has a thick line through the luff, it wont fit in the furling system.
If your sail is setup to go into a furling system, there should be a plastic bead running the edge of the entire luff of the sail, as shown in the video. If the bead won't fit into the furler extrusion, its an incorrect size. You need to have a sailmaker replace the luff tape with a new tape that has the correct size bead for your furling system.
Or ar you looking as some rope sewn just inside the luff, used by some sailmakers to bulk the the luff when furling? If so, that does not go into the furler.
If this doesn't answer your question, join Sailnet and post this question together with a picture of the sails luff.
where does one buy the jib feeder? link?
good job
Thank you,
I really appreciate the good word! Tom
I wish I knew which shackles to use on the top and bottom of the head roller. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also, why don’t you just put a couple of turns of the halyard around the drum, and then go forward with the bitter end and you can raise and Feed at the same time?
I find you need to use the winch to hoist the sail into the luff extrusion, which is much easier to do via the winch handle than by hand. When properly positioned, the pre-feeder works like a charm, and you avoid the hassle of ducking the sail when its part way up and luffing about.
First we need to discuss the drum line.
Excellent video thx