Nathan, if you keep having this problem of companies sending printers you didn't ask for and didn't want, I'm willing to help you out with that. You can ship them to me, I won't even charge you a storage fee. Thanks for the video. Another great review.
Everyone going on about the $2 donation being sad, please show me the donations to the project from LDO, Fabreeko, Siboor etc. They make tons of money producing kits from the Voron BOM and others are making lots of money offering upgrades and machined parts. None of them are donating to the project either, just taking and making money and no one blinks an eye. At least Sovol is which puts them miles ahead of every other company making money off the project.
There's a big difference between selling a kit based on a bill of materials from an open source project and creating a complete printer straight from it and using their branding. I'm not saying Sovol is wrong, they are well within their rights to use the open source project to make and selll a printer but they have intentionally tried to imply/tie their name to Voron without Voron's consent. They aren't marketing it as a great corexy printer, they are marketing it as Voron but cheaper. Again, they can do it, but the way they are going about it is questionable. If you look at the Troodon, (which is way closer to a Voron clone) they only mention that it was inspired by Voron. Also to add, giving $2 (which is basically nothing compared to the price) to cash in on someone else's branding is not great. Thats why people are upset.
We can't speak for other companies, but LDO is doing monthly donate to Voron since we start ship Voron kits to our resellers. I believe some of LDO reseller is doing that too. But make sure it is not royalty fees, it is donate, to support Voron team (non-profit group) to do more R&D for this community.
... and don't forget the donations from Bambu Lab to Voron, Klipper, Prusa and the people who brought things like Input Shaping to open source. They used it, they copied it, they didn't tell and made their printers closed source ... so they "donated" nothing back, not even a big shout-out in their slicer, software or on their printer screens.
@@ldomotors Thank you very much for responding!! Honestly you have my respect for doing that and next time I look to build a Voron it will come from you guys.
I find it rather interesting watching multiple reviews of the same product and how everyone has different things they find good, needs work or just unacceptable. It's why I refuse to listen to any one person. Personally I have very different standards than other people. Most of the things I hear reviewers complain about are meaningless to me .. things such as the fan noise or appearance. The fans don't bother me in the least and they just become background noise I can tune out without any problem. As for appearance, I find it absurd to put in even so much as a single second thinking about how it looks. It's a tool for me and no different than a hammer. I don't care what a hammer looks like as long as I can knock nails in with it. I'll just put all the reviews into a bucket and lump them together. Then I'll wait for sovol to knock out a few changes and buy one after all the first adopters (ie suckers) buy one.
Ive had mine a couple months now and so far i havent had a single issue at all with it. and you are right, the fan noise isnt even an issue for me. its not that loud (im not trying to sleep next to it or anything) and so far close to 10kg filament through it without issues. its fast, prints damn nice quality (without tuning, except the occasional z offset at the start) i was actually expecting a few issues but nope, it just prints and so far very reliably. I was expecting alot of issues based on the reviews people have done on it... but yea so far 0 for me.
Thanks for again a REAL REVIEW, reviews arent sale pitches they are meant to be critical to give people that consider it a fair and square look at it. Shil next layer could learn allot !
Stoked to see the upcoming vid about your new machine! Maybe cause it's so open, that sovol feels super quick. and ya - fan noise. All the other sounds aren't too bad - in general, I like the direction. If this thing sells, we could see a pro version w/ metal replacing the plastic
SOVOL is aware of the fact they are benefiting from the Voron Project. This is the reason, why CAD files and firmware are open source, a dream for modders not having to measure or scan stuff.
I started 3D printing when we had to build a 3D printer because there weren't any commercially available hobby printers. The SV08 is my 12th 3D printer. Here is my lengthy opinion on the SV08, for the prospective SV08 buyer. Short answer: It's a good shortcut to get most of the features of a Voron 2.4 at a third of the price without 40 hours of building, but it has some issues and isn't a good first printer for someone who doesn't want to tinker and just wants a reliable 3D printer out of the box. Sovol got a lot right when adapting the open source Voron 2.4 to be a relatively low cost consumer version of this advanced large volume flying gantry coreXY 3D printer, and they deserve credit for all of the engineering changes they made so the SV08 is suitable for manufacturing and to reduce cost. Sovol deserves huge credit for keeping the design open source, even to the extent of supplying STEP files for all mechanical parts. This was a large part of the reason I bought an SV08, and look favorably on all Sovol products. In most cases, Sovol made good engineering decisions, but there are some issues with the SV08. Probably half of the problems were the result of excessive cost savings, beyond what was prudent. In a few instances, the Sovol engineers were penny wise and pound foolish. In those cases, their customers would have gladly paid the difference in price for less problems and/or better performance. Some of the other SV08 issues had nothing to do with cost cutting and were the result of time to market, where there isn't time to resolve even known issues before shipping the product, much less extensive alpha and beta testing to refine the product before release. 1) The aluminum print bed is too thin. It's warped slightly more than 1 mm across the bed surface, resulting in problems establishing a uniform first layer on large prints. The problem is exacerbated because the warped surface changes when the bed is heated. The warped bed is rigidly mounted to the base so there is no way to shim it to level it, so owners attempt to fix the "taco bed" by drilling holes in the magnetic sheet to access the screws, removing the thin bed and installing 3D printed spacers to level the bed and pre-tension it to compensate for the thermal expansion warping which varies significantly between 65C and 95C. Sovol should have specified a 10 mm thick stress relieved cast aluminum plate (MIC6 or equivalent) and mounted it with springs, with the mounting screws accessible so the magnetic build surface can be removed and the mounting screws can be adjusted to level the bed and fine tune the very minor thermal warping in a thicker stress relieved bed. The aftermarket should offer a thicker cast bed upgrade. Sovol is expecting the bed mesh Z offset compensation to do miracles, but it can't. 2) The inductive probe doesn't produce sufficiently accurate and repeatable bed mesh results, further exacerbating the first layer problems previously described. Users are modifying their tool heads to remove the inductive sensor and replacing it with a contact sensor. Sovol should have probably used a contact sensor for greater accuracy. It would also prevent a crash when calibrating Z height when forgetting to replace the magnetic spring steel build surface. 3) Most people don't like the clicky knob character LCD user interface. It seems cheap on a modern 3D pritner with these high end features. Rotating the knob doesn't always move the display to the next menu item and sometimes it skips ahead two items. Clicking the knob doesn't always select the menu item and it often needs 2-3 knob pushes. Probably half of the users are buying a 5" touch screen user interface that attaches to a USB port and HDMI port. The Big Tree Tech 5" user interface costs $45 retail, so Sovol should have provided a modern touch screen graphical user interface. Users would have been happy to pay the small difference in cost with a decent profit added. 4) Many users don't like editing wifi.cfg and writing it to a USB drive to set the WiFi login credentials. I thought it was a reasonable solution to avoid trying to enter that information on a clicky knob character LCD user interface, but I was among the majority of users for whom the WiFi never worked. I was forced to buy a WiFi bridge and plug it into the ethernet port for data and the USB port for power. Maybe adding an external WiFi antenna as many 3D printers have instead of a tiny antenna behind the aluminum motherboard shield would fix the WiFi connection problems. Maybe the built-in WiFi only works with the 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz band? Maybe a firmware upgrade might fix the problem? 5) Some users had nozzles pushed out of the hot end when printing PETG with its higher pressure. Sovol fixed this by adding a set screw to retain the nozzle. Every manufacturer creates a slightly different high flow nozzle. All are similar to the Volcano nozzle but we're forced to buy a slightly different proprietary nozzle that won't work on any other printer. Replacing the hot end with a MicroSwiss hot end results in a high quality and known good hot end that uses the MicroSwiss FlowTech nozzles that can be cold swapped without removing and reinstalling the heater and thermistor. The nozzles are then compatible with all other printers once they have the MicroSwiss hot end installed. Installing the MicroSwiss hot end is as easy as changing the original manufacturer's nozzle that requires the heater and thermistor to be removed and reinstalled without damaging them. One the MicroSwiss hot end is installed, the nozzle can be swapped in a minute, using only one hand and a 7mm nut driver. 6) The web camera doesn't always work. Sovol has a page devoted to the problem. They advise checking to ensure the plug is fully connected as some units shipped with hot glue preventing the connectors to be seated properly. Then Sovol recommends ensuring the other end of the USB cable is properly connected to the motherboard, and if that doesn't work, try plugging it into the USB port on the side of the printer. If that doesn't work, try deleting and reinstalling the camera in Klipper. If that doesn't work, sometimes reflashing the MCU will fix it. Sovol would appreciate any info you have on the problem. In other words, hopefully the community will figure out what's wrong and fix it. My camera didn't work. I upgraded the printer's firmware to 2.3.3 and the camera worked. A few hours later it stopped working again. This isn't a problem for me because my printer is next to my computer but this would be a big problem for anyone trying to manage a print farm, or for people who want to use the phone app to remotely monitor a long print job. I would have much rather had a better printer user interface than a camera I don't need that doesn't work. I'll unplug the camera to ensure privacy and security. 7) There is a small LED lighting strip inside the top frame, in the front, on the right side. It's marginal. A brighter strip running the full length of the front would have been much better. Bright strips on the front, left and right sides would have been better still. I ordered the 24 V LED strip so I can upgrade the lighting. 8) The double bearing spool holder seems nice but stiff filaments tend to unspool and tangle. Sovol published a de-tangle mod, based on the many user mods to fix this problem. This begs the question, did Sovol test this printer before shipping it? Did they only test with PLA? This wasn't an issue for me because I print a lot of TPU so I feed it from above with no reverse Bowden tube to cause drag, so I'm not using the SV08 reel holder. However, eliminating the reverse Bowden tube allows the extruder cable to droop and drag so I needed to design and 3D print a custom cable chain to stiffen the cable to ensure it remains in a uniform vertical arc. 9) The bed preheating before quad gantry leveling, Z height calibration and bed mesh probing all uses 65 C, but many people are printing PETG, ABS, TPU, or other materials with different bed temperatures, so the bed warps after the calibrations are done. The calibrations should be done at the same bed temperatures that are used during printing, and the nozzle should be heated as well, but not enough to allow plastic to drool. Some users modify their config files to pre-heat the bed to the temperature used for printing. 10) The filament run out sensor is mounted to the reel holder. It dangles down, like an after thought. Modern 3D printers should integrate a tiny optical filament run out sensor to the top of the direct drive extruder. This would make filament loading easier and would use all of the available filament rather than leaving a reverse Bowden tube full of filament that must be cleared. When the filament is all used, the extruder should immediately unload 20 mm of filament to clear the hot end and provide a short piece that the user can grab to remove the 50 mm stub of filament.
I watched this video again six months later, after watching some Creality K2 Plus videos. For my use, both have merit. It's been interesting to see Sovol doing a good job honoring the open source agreement. They even published a STEP file of the entire printer with every part. There has been some collaboration with the open source community on installing open source Klipper and even a mod that allows up to six quick swap extruders.
Hello. I recently got my first filament printer, a Qidi xmax 3 that's been nothing but problems. The CS was good with sending parts to swap but none of the parts fixed the problem and after a month and requesting an exchange 3x and them ignoring it I finaly just threatened to charge back and am able to return it for a refund now. I liked the plug and play and automation aspects of the xmax as well as the print volume. The only other plug and play printer I can find in the price range is the Bambu p1s, but it's smaller. So I was also looking at the sv08. I use to work as a technician for a mold injection and ultra sonic welding company for a short time so im not entirely machine illiterate, but im concerned that encountering another difficult printer might put me off printing for good. I'm really leaning towards the p1s but the smaller build volume is looking like it's going to be a masive hindrance to my projects. Any advice?
I can definitely see me buying an SV08, fully enclosing it, and feeding it from a bearing spindle reel holder mounted above (TPU) and pitching the reverse Bowden tube and side mounted spool holder. For a $500 printer, I'm surprised the SV08 has such a low tech throwback display and user interface. Then again, for a Klipper machine that I manage via a Fluidd tab in my web browser, I wouldn't care if the printer's user interface is simple to save some money.
The staircase effect on the top sides of the hull is EXTREMELY rounded, indicating excessive acceleration for the given stiffness of frame/assembly. It would be interesting to print the Klipper "acceleration tower" which shows the widening of the gap, to judge which acceleration the printer can handle without excessive smoothing. In fact, it's a good test to compare printers besides the maximum marketed acceleration.
@@NathanBuildsRobots then it's sold! But still, comparing all your printers using that tower could be extremely interesting. I would do it myself if I had more than one, not even functioning, printer!
Shame this printer isn't all cooked yet, I was looking forward to seeing how it turns out... On an unrelated note, any chance you'll review Infimech TX ? It's a new printer form a sister (I guess? ) company of FlyingBear, I remember you kind of liked FlyingBear printer, and this one seems to use some similar parts. I'm finding it very interesting, but there are pretty much no reviews of it.
I was expecting a large format Klipper bed slinger, but I like Sovol's Voron 2.4 For The Rest Of Us approach. I'm guessing the extruder is completely proprietary even though the angular appearance has a StealthBurner vibe to it? I guess there are pros and cons either way but I'd like the ability to swap to a third party or open source extruder.
looking forward to look at this printer in one month, two months and six months after release .... now it looks as a decent platform for 350 mm and less than 600 USD, but i think it will be a great one when 3d printing community starts improving / modding it.
Glad to see they are donating $2 per printer to the Voron project. Another good and honest review Nathan, I appreciate your honesty and no nonsense style.
Drop tested and everything. I come here because Nathan is one of the few people that do reviews instead of sales pitches. The whole youtube tech review situation is absolutely broken.
so will it be possible to enclose this printer build in a filter system and an active heating element and print higher demanding materials. some even say, you can't print tpu on it, but if it's possible to do all of the above and print most materials, it would make a creality k2 plus contestant to me. leaks say the k2 plus with cms will be around 1.1k, maybe 1k a few weeks later (in creality style), if the sv08 is less than 600$, there would be some room left for buying an enclosure, filter system, heating element and MMU (granted Sovol releases a good one) I would really like to know if your mashine had problem with printing TPU and bend pully axies really nice first impressions video, love to see reviewers actually showing their unfilltered experience ^^
I liked it when Sovol took the Creality designs and improved upon them and more importantly they fixed them! and sold them for less money, I held a torch for Sovol back in those days. I am beyond having to adjust Z offsets and would have thought a new manufactured Voron printer would have true auto levelling (tramming, before someone corrects me), it would have been nice to have had something on the uprights to attach enclosure panels to, drilling might not be an option as the linear rails are mounted on the backside of the uprights
It does have true auto tramming, that’s what QGL does, it also has auto bed leveling. So the exact same features as the actual voron v2.4 unless you decide to put voron tap on the 2.4 you’ll always have to adjust z height to some degree (which because it’s supposed to be open source I’m sure someone will make a mount for voron tap and a stealth burner tool head for the sv08) Also sovol announced they’re making a panel kit to enclose this printer. Sovol took what would cost easily 1200-1500$ as a voron v2.4 and mass produced to sell at almost half the price. So it’s the exact same thing they did to Creality and just doing it with an open source project. (I totally agree that 2$ per 600$ printer donated to the voron team is ridiculous though)
It has auto Z offset, it just wasn’t shown in the video. The main issue is Sovol Klipper macros aren’t fully complete, much like the sv07. It has a metal load cell and wiper at the back for z offset calibration. Hopefully a day on printer.cfg update for all the new to Klipper people.
Real issues (I own an sv08): 1. nozzles/heat block assemblies just being in absolute beta state, I recommend u to swap that to either microswiss or Bambu hotend asap or if u in NA try to look for the cwtech heatblock as a cheapest solution 2. lot of ppl had taco bed issues (mine was ok thankfully) 3. stock enclosure kinda whack, in aspect of air filtration, recommended to build one
It's "inspired" from a design that is being sold on aliexpress. The pros of it not being completely original is that you can probably buy some spares from day 1.
luckily u knew that klipper had the min difference option it allows for z tilt or quad level so u knew but i should say your type of videos are the best , keep doing these videos please, thanks
Not sure if i understood well but you mentionned in the video there a kind of induction probe (nozzle) but from recents news it seem to be a pressure probe similar to the prusa mk4.
Milk crates are the butt of a lot of jokes but then I just saw a tractor trailer open the back up and it was filled full of milk crates with milk and I’m thinking geez that bottom crate is holding about 350 pounds of each crate has 4 gallons at about 35 pounds each.
Possibly, but I’d wait until someone does some testing running it enclosed. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to handle ABS and ASA but letting someone else do the experiments is always a wise move
really hope this one will be fully cooked during product live cycle. SV07/SV07+ never got PETG profiles from Sovol, they are still offering no profiles, but an outdated cura fork with PLA only.
GerGO 3D print had a video on installing Christian Vick's profiles for different materials and nozzles .. that's what I've been using, with some mods to the cooling settings because I designed a whole diff parts cooling system.
@@suzyamerica4679 I did the same, thanks to GerGo3D's video. But honestly: that is the work around. I hope your argument is not "Sovol does not need to provide profiles for SV07 PETG+TPU, because people can find it on youtube and reddit" (in this case sovol should at least link and credit those solutions by 3rd parties.)
@@rarbiart Oh no, I was not going to defend Sovol. Hell, they advertise all the different filaments their machine can handle. It was only a minor inconvenience to look for them. On the Sovol forums for the SV07 there is a thread about prints getting knocked off the bed by the head .. that is where I learned about the parts cooling deficiencies and ended up designing a better traveling parts cooler. It's really ugly but works .. it's up on Printables as a dual 5015 cooler for that printer. Turns out the curtain fan caused a bunch of problems if you pushed the machine for larger prints or multiples spread across the bed.
@@suzyamerica4679 Sovol could have made a pull request at the orca slicer git hub for the missing material profiles. or they could have done the same at the cura git hub, if they do prefer cura. But they basically left the profiles/slicer as yanked out for the "early bird" buyers. And that's SV07plus more than a year on the market now and not discontinued AFAIK.
@@chrisgaddy10 Unless you are unlucky, they are great machines. i watched so many reviews and so far i haven't had any of the issues "reviewers" seem to have had. I've printed about 9kg filament thru it so far and only one print failed and that was my own fault.
Nero found that one of the pulley shaft holes was completely misaligned in the gantry blue injection molded parts, causing the belt to grind very severely. Was yours okay in that aspect?
Awesome review - I really wish someone would post the exact dimensions of the base or the whole machine as assembled ! ( of course it's "close" to a voron but . . ) I'd love to know the footprint of the base and the height !
conclusion after a single benchy... Have a look at DIY PERSPECTIVE, thats a proper review. I get that the machine is new and you weren't super jazzed on it, but I think a little more could be done especially with that title
SOVOL SV-03C KE V2 PLUS SE MAX hahahaha I hope not, it already a pain to look for information for the Ender 3 V3 before you only find info on the SE or KE. Company should always use the same length for the naming to be consistant and help the users find info online.
Nathan you are the definitive source for 3D Printing news. I saw another “review” and they were talking about the injection mounded parts on the gantry being not great which was causing the belt pulley to be crooked. Possibly the pins were too short? Could you check yours out and see how it looks?
I think so too! Troodon 2.0 Pro costs a little more but has an enclosure, no plastic parts in critical places but entirely made of metal, extruder and nozzle that are already prepared for all filaments, Stealthburner, Klipper etc. I also believe that the SV08 will not be cheaper if you can order all “features/updates” from Sovol (e.g. housing, etc.)!
@@Interspieder I assume that the regular price will be around 600, plus then approx. 150 for enlosure? That's what my "little more" referred to! At the moment you can't compare the two in terms of price. Come back when the enclosure (as an extra) for the SV08 is there, we will then add up the (two) prices after the "early bird" period, compare the SV08 plastic parts against the Troodon metal parts and both hotends, real reviews and only then maybe you can answer your question yourself. Feel free to buy what you want, but that doesn't make it better, if the only argument is "just cheaper", in the truest sense of the word! For clarity: I am neither representative of one or the other, I'm just trying to find out the best value for my money!
My takeway is, get the SV06 if you want a cheap and very reliable bedslinger that prints perfect out of the box Buy an SV08 if you like to tinker and mod. Don't buy any of the other Sovols, they suck.
This was a really exciting printer until I actually saw it working. I’m sure in a year once the community has modded it into oblivion and any that exist in the wild are basically Vorons it might be a decent printer but for now it’s a hard pass.
Great Review but not impressed with the final result of the last benchy. Not sure what this unit is going for price wise but if you have to add something more to a 3D printer after you put it together to make it work better I have an issue with that. having been into 3D printers since 2015 I'm done with modding to make manufacturers product work like they should have.
A question for anyone - what is the procedure for changing filaments on this machine? Is it the usual thing of undoing the feed tube at the top of the hotend, clipping the filament, extruding the remainder, and threading the new filament through? TIA
In my opinion, you are doing a disservice to the printer you are reviewing by comparing it with another printer, particularly in this case. Please review each printer based only on its own pros and cons. Please keep all assumptions out of reviews. Your observations are OK, but assumptions are not.
Idk if I mentioned it but the 2nd benchy was after cleaning the bed. The first one came loose because of 2 issues: 1 - The auto z-offset needs some tuning, I think a fix has been developed for this. 2 - I set the fasteners down on the middle of the print area, which deposited some machine oil onto the PEI sheet. This really affects bed adhesion, so by wiping it down with alcohol it effectively fixed it.
Those plastic parts are just dumb. I mean off course if you build a Voron by yourself plastic is your almost only option using a 3D printer. But when you start 1000's of 'em, plastic would be your last and worse choice. Even casted aluminium alloy parts would have been a better solution there.
How awesome would it be if you were to start your videos being dressed up as a mongolian warrior on horseback with the 3D-Printer strapped to the saddle and then you would proceed to drag it into your yurt where you would then film the review. You could also spice it up with pronouncements about what is best in life and what not. Don't hold back, go crazy! Anyway..., I might just be dehydrated or something. But yurts are great, are they not?
Just a constructive comment for next time. The printer base is black, you are wearing a black shirt and the lighting in the room is rather poor (or too soft) It was like watching a horror movie, I was waiting for a moster to come in frame at any moment. :)
"I didn't ask for it, or want it"...... Well without it you wouldn't be making this video, which wouldn't in turn be making you a wage! So maybe a little less of the "it's beneath me" attitude next time when someone asks you to review something 😬😬😬😬
or...he could be making an interesting video about something else. Sadly too many 3D printing channels become less and less about actual projects and more and more about reviewing an endless onslaught of nearly identical machines. The disdain is appropriate and appreciated in my mind.
This printer has a potential fatal design flaw. I have been a product and machine design engineer for 40 years. The plastic bed mounts to a plastic chassis. You don't need to be an engineer to figure out this is an unstable inappropriate materials choice. My bed is badly warped and the ABL cannot compensate. So I get prints where the nozzle crushes the filament in one area and prints loose and to high in another. People who buy this printer would typically do so because it has a large bed but its of no use in you cant get a decent first layer. Based on my experience I would recommend against purchasing this unit. If you just print small parts like the benchy it will likely do well but try to print anything larger and it may be very problematic.
That's not the real price. It's just not up for sale yet. Why they do that instead of just saying when it will be available is beyond me. Marketing garbage.
The SV07+ is fantastic for that, which is why I took off the hot end cover, the lights, the parts cooling fan, and made a whole new parts cooling system.
Nathan, if you keep having this problem of companies sending printers you didn't ask for and didn't want, I'm willing to help you out with that. You can ship them to me, I won't even charge you a storage fee. Thanks for the video. Another great review.
LOL I think we all would just say, "Ya I'll totally just "store" that printer for you" ROFLOL.
Couple of years later your house is full of 3d printers like a hoarder house and they just keep coming.
I would take them as well! In case you got some doubled up or so 😜😂
What's stopping Nathan to just selling the printers?@@SirLANsalot
I actually drove to him and picked the SV08 up.
Everyone going on about the $2 donation being sad, please show me the donations to the project from LDO, Fabreeko, Siboor etc. They make tons of money producing kits from the Voron BOM and others are making lots of money offering upgrades and machined parts. None of them are donating to the project either, just taking and making money and no one blinks an eye. At least Sovol is which puts them miles ahead of every other company making money off the project.
There's a big difference between selling a kit based on a bill of materials from an open source project and creating a complete printer straight from it and using their branding. I'm not saying Sovol is wrong, they are well within their rights to use the open source project to make and selll a printer but they have intentionally tried to imply/tie their name to Voron without Voron's consent. They aren't marketing it as a great corexy printer, they are marketing it as Voron but cheaper. Again, they can do it, but the way they are going about it is questionable. If you look at the Troodon, (which is way closer to a Voron clone) they only mention that it was inspired by Voron.
Also to add, giving $2 (which is basically nothing compared to the price) to cash in on someone else's branding is not great. Thats why people are upset.
We can't speak for other companies, but LDO is doing monthly donate to Voron since we start ship Voron kits to our resellers. I believe some of LDO reseller is doing that too. But make sure it is not royalty fees, it is donate, to support Voron team (non-profit group) to do more R&D for this community.
... and don't forget the donations from Bambu Lab to Voron, Klipper, Prusa and the people who brought things like Input Shaping to open source.
They used it, they copied it, they didn't tell and made their printers closed source ... so they "donated" nothing back, not even a big shout-out in their slicer, software or on their printer screens.
@@ldomotors Thank you very much for responding!! Honestly you have my respect for doing that and next time I look to build a Voron it will come from you guys.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 and thats why I will never own a bambu.
I find it rather interesting watching multiple reviews of the same product and how everyone has different things they find good, needs work or just unacceptable. It's why I refuse to listen to any one person. Personally I have very different standards than other people. Most of the things I hear reviewers complain about are meaningless to me .. things such as the fan noise or appearance. The fans don't bother me in the least and they just become background noise I can tune out without any problem. As for appearance, I find it absurd to put in even so much as a single second thinking about how it looks. It's a tool for me and no different than a hammer. I don't care what a hammer looks like as long as I can knock nails in with it. I'll just put all the reviews into a bucket and lump them together. Then I'll wait for sovol to knock out a few changes and buy one after all the first adopters (ie suckers) buy one.
haha, "buy one after all the first adopters (ie suckers) buy one"
Ive had mine a couple months now and so far i havent had a single issue at all with it. and you are right, the fan noise isnt even an issue for me. its not that loud (im not trying to sleep next to it or anything) and so far close to 10kg filament through it without issues. its fast, prints damn nice quality (without tuning, except the occasional z offset at the start) i was actually expecting a few issues but nope, it just prints and so far very reliably. I was expecting alot of issues based on the reviews people have done on it... but yea so far 0 for me.
Thanks for again a REAL REVIEW, reviews arent sale pitches they are meant to be critical to give people that consider it a fair and square look at it. Shil next layer could learn allot !
Womp womp
Next layer is a sellout
@@MTNDEWGANGbut he's admitting it. Not that Nathan is a sell out at all
You can make lots of money by being a sellout....
@@psxtuneservice sadly lol
Stoked to see the upcoming vid about your new machine! Maybe cause it's so open, that sovol feels super quick. and ya - fan noise. All the other sounds aren't too bad - in general, I like the direction. If this thing sells, we could see a pro version w/ metal replacing the plastic
SOVOL is aware of the fact they are benefiting from the Voron Project. This is the reason, why CAD files and firmware are open source, a dream for modders not having to measure or scan stuff.
I started 3D printing when we had to build a 3D printer because there weren't any commercially available hobby printers. The SV08 is my 12th 3D printer. Here is my lengthy opinion on the SV08, for the prospective SV08 buyer. Short answer: It's a good shortcut to get most of the features of a Voron 2.4 at a third of the price without 40 hours of building, but it has some issues and isn't a good first printer for someone who doesn't want to tinker and just wants a reliable 3D printer out of the box.
Sovol got a lot right when adapting the open source Voron 2.4 to be a relatively low cost consumer version of this advanced large volume flying gantry coreXY 3D printer, and they deserve credit for all of the engineering changes they made so the SV08 is suitable for manufacturing and to reduce cost. Sovol deserves huge credit for keeping the design open source, even to the extent of supplying STEP files for all mechanical parts. This was a large part of the reason I bought an SV08, and look favorably on all Sovol products. In most cases, Sovol made good engineering decisions, but there are some issues with the SV08. Probably half of the problems were the result of excessive cost savings, beyond what was prudent. In a few instances, the Sovol engineers were penny wise and pound foolish. In those cases, their customers would have gladly paid the difference in price for less problems and/or better performance. Some of the other SV08 issues had nothing to do with cost cutting and were the result of time to market, where there isn't time to resolve even known issues before shipping the product, much less extensive alpha and beta testing to refine the product before release.
1) The aluminum print bed is too thin. It's warped slightly more than 1 mm across the bed surface, resulting in problems establishing a uniform first layer on large prints. The problem is exacerbated because the warped surface changes when the bed is heated. The warped bed is rigidly mounted to the base so there is no way to shim it to level it, so owners attempt to fix the "taco bed" by drilling holes in the magnetic sheet to access the screws, removing the thin bed and installing 3D printed spacers to level the bed and pre-tension it to compensate for the thermal expansion warping which varies significantly between 65C and 95C. Sovol should have specified a 10 mm thick stress relieved cast aluminum plate (MIC6 or equivalent) and mounted it with springs, with the mounting screws accessible so the magnetic build surface can be removed and the mounting screws can be adjusted to level the bed and fine tune the very minor thermal warping in a thicker stress relieved bed. The aftermarket should offer a thicker cast bed upgrade. Sovol is expecting the bed mesh Z offset compensation to do miracles, but it can't.
2) The inductive probe doesn't produce sufficiently accurate and repeatable bed mesh results, further exacerbating the first layer problems previously described. Users are modifying their tool heads to remove the inductive sensor and replacing it with a contact sensor. Sovol should have probably used a contact sensor for greater accuracy. It would also prevent a crash when calibrating Z height when forgetting to replace the magnetic spring steel build surface.
3) Most people don't like the clicky knob character LCD user interface. It seems cheap on a modern 3D pritner with these high end features. Rotating the knob doesn't always move the display to the next menu item and sometimes it skips ahead two items. Clicking the knob doesn't always select the menu item and it often needs 2-3 knob pushes. Probably half of the users are buying a 5" touch screen user interface that attaches to a USB port and HDMI port. The Big Tree Tech 5" user interface costs $45 retail, so Sovol should have provided a modern touch screen graphical user interface. Users would have been happy to pay the small difference in cost with a decent profit added.
4) Many users don't like editing wifi.cfg and writing it to a USB drive to set the WiFi login credentials. I thought it was a reasonable solution to avoid trying to enter that information on a clicky knob character LCD user interface, but I was among the majority of users for whom the WiFi never worked. I was forced to buy a WiFi bridge and plug it into the ethernet port for data and the USB port for power. Maybe adding an external WiFi antenna as many 3D printers have instead of a tiny antenna behind the aluminum motherboard shield would fix the WiFi connection problems. Maybe the built-in WiFi only works with the 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz band? Maybe a firmware upgrade might fix the problem?
5) Some users had nozzles pushed out of the hot end when printing PETG with its higher pressure. Sovol fixed this by adding a set screw to retain the nozzle. Every manufacturer creates a slightly different high flow nozzle. All are similar to the Volcano nozzle but we're forced to buy a slightly different proprietary nozzle that won't work on any other printer. Replacing the hot end with a MicroSwiss hot end results in a high quality and known good hot end that uses the MicroSwiss FlowTech nozzles that can be cold swapped without removing and reinstalling the heater and thermistor. The nozzles are then compatible with all other printers once they have the MicroSwiss hot end installed. Installing the MicroSwiss hot end is as easy as changing the original manufacturer's nozzle that requires the heater and thermistor to be removed and reinstalled without damaging them. One the MicroSwiss hot end is installed, the nozzle can be swapped in a minute, using only one hand and a 7mm nut driver.
6) The web camera doesn't always work. Sovol has a page devoted to the problem. They advise checking to ensure the plug is fully connected as some units shipped with hot glue preventing the connectors to be seated properly. Then Sovol recommends ensuring the other end of the USB cable is properly connected to the motherboard, and if that doesn't work, try plugging it into the USB port on the side of the printer. If that doesn't work, try deleting and reinstalling the camera in Klipper. If that doesn't work, sometimes reflashing the MCU will fix it. Sovol would appreciate any info you have on the problem. In other words, hopefully the community will figure out what's wrong and fix it. My camera didn't work. I upgraded the printer's firmware to 2.3.3 and the camera worked. A few hours later it stopped working again. This isn't a problem for me because my printer is next to my computer but this would be a big problem for anyone trying to manage a print farm, or for people who want to use the phone app to remotely monitor a long print job. I would have much rather had a better printer user interface than a camera I don't need that doesn't work. I'll unplug the camera to ensure privacy and security.
7) There is a small LED lighting strip inside the top frame, in the front, on the right side. It's marginal. A brighter strip running the full length of the front would have been much better. Bright strips on the front, left and right sides would have been better still. I ordered the 24 V LED strip so I can upgrade the lighting.
8) The double bearing spool holder seems nice but stiff filaments tend to unspool and tangle. Sovol published a de-tangle mod, based on the many user mods to fix this problem. This begs the question, did Sovol test this printer before shipping it? Did they only test with PLA? This wasn't an issue for me because I print a lot of TPU so I feed it from above with no reverse Bowden tube to cause drag, so I'm not using the SV08 reel holder. However, eliminating the reverse Bowden tube allows the extruder cable to droop and drag so I needed to design and 3D print a custom cable chain to stiffen the cable to ensure it remains in a uniform vertical arc.
9) The bed preheating before quad gantry leveling, Z height calibration and bed mesh probing all uses 65 C, but many people are printing PETG, ABS, TPU, or other materials with different bed temperatures, so the bed warps after the calibrations are done. The calibrations should be done at the same bed temperatures that are used during printing, and the nozzle should be heated as well, but not enough to allow plastic to drool. Some users modify their config files to pre-heat the bed to the temperature used for printing.
10) The filament run out sensor is mounted to the reel holder. It dangles down, like an after thought. Modern 3D printers should integrate a tiny optical filament run out sensor to the top of the direct drive extruder. This would make filament loading easier and would use all of the available filament rather than leaving a reverse Bowden tube full of filament that must be cleared. When the filament is all used, the extruder should immediately unload 20 mm of filament to clear the hot end and provide a short piece that the user can grab to remove the 50 mm stub of filament.
I watched this video again six months later, after watching some Creality K2 Plus videos. For my use, both have merit. It's been interesting to see Sovol doing a good job honoring the open source agreement. They even published a STEP file of the entire printer with every part. There has been some collaboration with the open source community on installing open source Klipper and even a mod that allows up to six quick swap extruders.
Yeah Sovol is doing the right thing with regard to working with open source. Good on Sovol
Sovol also donated 1mil$ upfront (to the Voron team), they should brag more about it.
Hello. I recently got my first filament printer, a Qidi xmax 3 that's been nothing but problems. The CS was good with sending parts to swap but none of the parts fixed the problem and after a month and requesting an exchange 3x and them ignoring it I finaly just threatened to charge back and am able to return it for a refund now.
I liked the plug and play and automation aspects of the xmax as well as the print volume. The only other plug and play printer I can find in the price range is the Bambu p1s, but it's smaller. So I was also looking at the sv08.
I use to work as a technician for a mold injection and ultra sonic welding company for a short time so im not entirely machine illiterate, but im concerned that encountering another difficult printer might put me off printing for good. I'm really leaning towards the p1s but the smaller build volume is looking like it's going to be a masive hindrance to my projects.
Any advice?
I can definitely see me buying an SV08, fully enclosing it, and feeding it from a bearing spindle reel holder mounted above (TPU) and pitching the reverse Bowden tube and side mounted spool holder. For a $500 printer, I'm surprised the SV08 has such a low tech throwback display and user interface. Then again, for a Klipper machine that I manage via a Fluidd tab in my web browser, I wouldn't care if the printer's user interface is simple to save some money.
The staircase effect on the top sides of the hull is EXTREMELY rounded, indicating excessive acceleration for the given stiffness of frame/assembly. It would be interesting to print the Klipper "acceleration tower" which shows the widening of the gap, to judge which acceleration the printer can handle without excessive smoothing.
In fact, it's a good test to compare printers besides the maximum marketed acceleration.
But it said here it can do ten bajillion meters per seconds
@@NathanBuildsRobots then it's sold!
But still, comparing all your printers using that tower could be extremely interesting. I would do it myself if I had more than one, not even functioning, printer!
Shame this printer isn't all cooked yet, I was looking forward to seeing how it turns out... On an unrelated note, any chance you'll review Infimech TX ? It's a new printer form a sister (I guess? ) company of FlyingBear, I remember you kind of liked FlyingBear printer, and this one seems to use some similar parts. I'm finding it very interesting, but there are pretty much no reviews of it.
The eye contact with the camera while you were checking belt tension gave me the heebie jeebies.
IS it the third or fourth wall ? Pretty cinematic :).
Now commenting!!! Nice work as always. Will be interesting to see if the frame "creeps" over time since it's all just injection molded.
It's likely not an issue for an open frame printer. When it gets enclosed and/or with a chamber heater, we might see some issues crop up
I was expecting a large format Klipper bed slinger, but I like Sovol's Voron 2.4 For The Rest Of Us approach. I'm guessing the extruder is completely proprietary even though the angular appearance has a StealthBurner vibe to it? I guess there are pros and cons either way but I'd like the ability to swap to a third party or open source extruder.
Did I miss the input shaping calibration?
I was thinking the same thing
looking forward to look at this printer in one month, two months and six months after release .... now it looks as a decent platform for 350 mm and less than 600 USD, but i think it will be a great one when 3d printing community starts improving / modding it.
I just come here for the drop testing
Glad to see they are donating $2 per printer to the Voron project. Another good and honest review Nathan, I appreciate your honesty and no nonsense style.
15:20, What is that shipping estimate
Drop tested and everything. I come here because Nathan is one of the few people that do reviews instead of sales pitches. The whole youtube tech review situation is absolutely broken.
Bingo. 1 - "this thing is great" 2 - "It's better than [fill in the competitor]" 3 - here's my affiliate link
so will it be possible to enclose this printer build in a filter system and an active heating element and print higher demanding materials. some even say, you can't print tpu on it, but if it's possible to do all of the above and print most materials, it would make a creality k2 plus contestant to me.
leaks say the k2 plus with cms will be around 1.1k, maybe 1k a few weeks later (in creality style), if the sv08 is less than 600$, there would be some room left for buying an enclosure, filter system, heating element and MMU (granted Sovol releases a good one)
I would really like to know if your mashine had problem with printing TPU and bend pully axies
really nice first impressions video, love to see reviewers actually showing their unfilltered experience ^^
You mentioned the sv07plus. It is crazy cheap. How good is it?
oh my god, an actual review?! daaang, you have my gratitude
every printer can do a benchy, the real question is, does it do a perfect first layer that sticks on the entire bed.
The backside works perfectly for printing
I actually don't use the front anymore on my sv08
I like my SV06 and SV06 Plus.
Might be tempted on this, but that fan would have to be replaced.
Awesome video man, thank you 🙏
A machine you recommend??? I almost got a K1 until I saw your videos on it... Maybe I'll get this instead
I liked it when Sovol took the Creality designs and improved upon them and more importantly they fixed them! and sold them for less money, I held a torch for Sovol back in those days.
I am beyond having to adjust Z offsets and would have thought a new manufactured Voron printer would have true auto levelling (tramming, before someone corrects me), it would have been nice to have had something on the uprights to attach enclosure panels to, drilling might not be an option as the linear rails are mounted on the backside of the uprights
It does have true auto tramming, that’s what QGL does, it also has auto bed leveling. So the exact same features as the actual voron v2.4 unless you decide to put voron tap on the 2.4 you’ll always have to adjust z height to some degree (which because it’s supposed to be open source I’m sure someone will make a mount for voron tap and a stealth burner tool head for the sv08) Also sovol announced they’re making a panel kit to enclose this printer. Sovol took what would cost easily 1200-1500$ as a voron v2.4 and mass produced to sell at almost half the price. So it’s the exact same thing they did to Creality and just doing it with an open source project. (I totally agree that 2$ per 600$ printer donated to the voron team is ridiculous though)
It has auto Z offset, it just wasn’t shown in the video. The main issue is Sovol Klipper macros aren’t fully complete, much like the sv07. It has a metal load cell and wiper at the back for z offset calibration. Hopefully a day on printer.cfg update for all the new to Klipper people.
One nice thing is that the community can make up for a lot of these issues. It shouldn't be that way, but making it open helps at least.
@@trevor1995jason I think you can just slap the Stealthburner, because the printhead only mounts to the rail carriage
How did you adjust the Z-axis and get it to save? I’ve tried in the GUI, the variables file and the printer settings. It seems to not change at all.
Real issues (I own an sv08):
1. nozzles/heat block assemblies just being in absolute beta state, I recommend u to swap that to either microswiss or Bambu hotend asap or if u in NA try to look for the cwtech heatblock as a cheapest solution
2. lot of ppl had taco bed issues (mine was ok thankfully)
3. stock enclosure kinda whack, in aspect of air filtration, recommended to build one
Other than the mentioned points do you think its worth it. And can it be a workhorse?
I kinda love milk crates...
my wife and I used to have a bed frame made of a bunch of milk crates. it sucked! but the storage capabilities were amaaaazing.
sovol did a good job except for the proprietary nozzle, everything's getting more and more proprietary.
It's "inspired" from a design that is being sold on aliexpress. The pros of it not being completely original is that you can probably buy some spares from day 1.
I ordered mine today but did not get the early price, ordered it with enclosure.
luckily u knew that klipper had the min difference option it allows for z tilt or quad level so u knew but i should say your type of videos are the best , keep doing these videos please, thanks
Not sure if i understood well but you mentionned in the video there a kind of induction probe (nozzle) but from recents news it seem to be a pressure probe similar to the prusa mk4.
The main probe at the print head is inductive, there is also a pressure knob outside the print bed to calibrate the z-offset of the nozzle.
Milk crates are the butt of a lot of jokes but then I just saw a tractor trailer open the back up and it was filled full of milk crates with milk and I’m thinking geez that bottom crate is holding about 350 pounds of each crate has 4 gallons at about 35 pounds each.
I just want to know if this is enclosed if I could print full sized helmets and chestplates in abs, or motorcycle fairings.
Possibly, but I’d wait until someone does some testing running it enclosed. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to handle ABS and ASA but letting someone else do the experiments is always a wise move
Qidi x plus 3 / max or sovol sv8? Im confused
Nathan cooking like always
really hope this one will be fully cooked during product live cycle. SV07/SV07+ never got PETG profiles from Sovol, they are still offering no profiles, but an outdated cura fork with PLA only.
GerGO 3D print had a video on installing Christian Vick's profiles for different materials and nozzles .. that's what I've been using, with some mods to the cooling settings because I designed a whole diff parts cooling system.
@@suzyamerica4679 I did the same, thanks to GerGo3D's video. But honestly: that is the work around.
I hope your argument is not "Sovol does not need to provide profiles for SV07 PETG+TPU, because people can find it on youtube and reddit" (in this case sovol should at least link and credit those solutions by 3rd parties.)
@@rarbiart Oh no, I was not going to defend Sovol. Hell, they advertise all the different filaments their machine can handle. It was only a minor inconvenience to look for them.
On the Sovol forums for the SV07 there is a thread about prints getting knocked off the bed by the head .. that is where I learned about the parts cooling deficiencies and ended up designing a better traveling parts cooler. It's really ugly but works .. it's up on Printables as a dual 5015 cooler for that printer. Turns out the curtain fan caused a bunch of problems if you pushed the machine for larger prints or multiples spread across the bed.
@@suzyamerica4679 Sovol could have made a pull request at the orca slicer git hub for the missing material profiles. or they could have done the same at the cura git hub, if they do prefer cura. But they basically left the profiles/slicer as yanked out for the "early bird" buyers. And that's SV07plus more than a year on the market now and not discontinued AFAIK.
$2 per machine sold is more than they are required to pay. So thats a good step
I've heard that they also gave them 1 million upfront. They didn't have to do any of this. I'll be buying one.
@@chrisgaddy10 Unless you are unlucky, they are great machines. i watched so many reviews and so far i haven't had any of the issues "reviewers" seem to have had. I've printed about 9kg filament thru it so far and only one print failed and that was my own fault.
@@Bobby11 That's awesome!
Nero found that one of the pulley shaft holes was completely misaligned in the gantry blue injection molded parts, causing the belt to grind very severely. Was yours okay in that aspect?
it was just a short pin. he updated us on the situation later
@@Milkex thanks for the update. I don't usually read the community section so I didn't see that.
5:10 Great, you created a new page of instruction! :)
Question: What are the outermost dimensions of this model? i can't find the information on the product page
will the sovol mk8 nozzles work on the sv08?
From another Nathan, who builds robots, thanks for the first impressions of the SV08
Awesome review - I really wish someone would post the exact dimensions of the base or the whole machine as assembled ! ( of course it's "close" to a voron but . . ) I'd love to know the footprint of the base and the height !
Think it’s fair to mention it’s under 600 bucks. Pretty tempting, especially when it does look pretty tweakAble.
U still have the sv07 or sv07 plus
conclusion after a single benchy... Have a look at DIY PERSPECTIVE, thats a proper review. I get that the machine is new and you weren't super jazzed on it, but I think a little more could be done especially with that title
17:55 shivering skeleton Na, Mr. Krabs was walking behind the camera
KEEP UP THIS SOLID STYLE OF CONTENT BRO... truth is epic lol
My man looking jacked 💪💪💪
SOVOL SV-03C KE V2 PLUS SE MAX hahahaha I hope not, it already a pain to look for information for the Ender 3 V3 before you only find info on the SE or KE. Company should always use the same length for the naming to be consistant and help the users find info online.
Nathan you are the definitive source for 3D Printing news. I saw another “review” and they were talking about the injection mounded parts on the gantry being not great which was causing the belt pulley to be crooked. Possibly the pins were too short? Could you check yours out and see how it looks?
Yeah I have never understood that print surface it doesn't stick.
looks like a single sided steel surface, lowers cost especially on a 350 size bed.
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@5:09 So far it sounds like a real Voron!
Nice. I pre-ordered one as soon as they opened that up.
Did you get the $450 price then? They accidentally left a $50 coupon on their website 😂
@@NathanBuildsRobots yes I did. I was on the fence about ordering but I couldn't pass up that price.
This or Troodon 2.0 Pro?
I'd go with Troodon as it'll be compatible with more mods made straight for Voron, The Pro version also has better screen and Tap probing
@@Mintor94 I think so too!
18:33 "A Little bit," LOL
when i buy this machine i'll most definitely upgrade the plastic parts to aluminum and ill likely enclose the machine in tempered glass
This is not a clone though...
2:49 pullin’ a nero3d ;)
At least the HDMI worked after the initial power cycle.
not that bad isn't it?
but the troodon 2.0 is better
costs a bit more, though
can you have a look at that one, too?
I think so too! Troodon 2.0 Pro costs a little more but has an enclosure, no plastic parts in critical places but entirely made of metal, extruder and nozzle that are already prepared for all filaments, Stealthburner, Klipper etc. I also believe that the SV08 will not be cheaper if you can order all “features/updates” from Sovol (e.g. housing, etc.)!
@@Dimitris1963 that's a good point, "necessary" upgrades will bring up the price of the SV08 to a similar level
Can buy two sv08s for price of troodon 2.0. I would hope it is better.
@@Dimitris1963 A "little more"? I couldnt find a Troodon below 900$, could you direct me to a Troodon that costs around 600 $ please? Thanks.
@@Interspieder I assume that the regular price will be around 600, plus then approx. 150 for enlosure? That's what my "little more" referred to! At the moment you can't compare the two in terms of price. Come back when the enclosure (as an extra) for the SV08 is there, we will then add up the (two) prices after the "early bird" period, compare the SV08 plastic parts against the Troodon metal parts and both hotends, real reviews and only then maybe you can answer your question yourself. Feel free to buy what you want, but that doesn't make it better, if the only argument is "just cheaper", in the truest sense of the word! For clarity: I am neither representative of one or the other, I'm just trying to find out the best value for my money!
My takeway is, get the SV06 if you want a cheap and very reliable bedslinger that prints perfect out of the box
Buy an SV08 if you like to tinker and mod.
Don't buy any of the other Sovols, they suck.
You should ask Guy if he ever uses 3-2-1 blocks in his shop. 😂 Perfect First Layer.
This was a really exciting printer until I actually saw it working. I’m sure in a year once the community has modded it into oblivion and any that exist in the wild are basically Vorons it might be a decent printer but for now it’s a hard pass.
thank you for an honest review. some reviewers are just ring kissing with zionist easter eggs in the background
I actually laughed out loud at this comment. I shared the same thoughts when I watched that video.
the creality glazer himself
INTERESTING :)
THANK YOU FOR SHARING :)
THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)
Great Review but not impressed with the final result of the last benchy. Not sure what this unit is going for price wise but if you have to add something more to a 3D printer after you put it together to make it work better I have an issue with that. having been into 3D printers since 2015 I'm done with modding to make manufacturers product work like they should have.
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A question for anyone - what is the procedure for changing filaments on this machine? Is it the usual thing of undoing the feed tube at the top of the hotend, clipping the filament, extruding the remainder, and threading the new filament through? TIA
In my opinion, you are doing a disservice to the printer you are reviewing by comparing it with another printer, particularly in this case. Please review each printer based only on its own pros and cons. Please keep all assumptions out of reviews. Your observations are OK, but assumptions are not.
Good result? come on...
Did you see that the second benchy was.. a second benchy? Not the first?
Idk if I mentioned it but the 2nd benchy was after cleaning the bed. The first one came loose because of 2 issues:
1 - The auto z-offset needs some tuning, I think a fix has been developed for this.
2 - I set the fasteners down on the middle of the print area, which deposited some machine oil onto the PEI sheet. This really affects bed adhesion, so by wiping it down with alcohol it effectively fixed it.
Those plastic parts are just dumb. I mean off course if you build a Voron by yourself plastic is your almost only option using a 3D printer. But when you start 1000's of 'em, plastic would be your last and worse choice. Even casted aluminium alloy parts would have been a better solution there.
How awesome would it be if you were to start your videos being dressed up as a mongolian warrior on horseback with the 3D-Printer strapped to the saddle and then you would proceed to drag it into your yurt where you would then film the review. You could also spice it up with pronouncements about what is best in life and what not. Don't hold back, go crazy! Anyway..., I might just be dehydrated or something. But yurts are great, are they not?
I need a horse
Is their site broken? I'm seeing a price of $9,999 for the SV08.
It goes on sale tomorrow
LOL I Love Milk, send me some... Love your videos...
Printer companies need to pick there influencers better.
Yeah we need more infomercial style pitches
Why would you buy this over a Bambu, genuine question. My bambu was set up in 15 minutes and hasn't missed a beat.
Cheaper bigger faster open source
Just a constructive comment for next time. The printer base is black, you are wearing a black shirt and the lighting in the room is rather poor (or too soft) It was like watching a horror movie, I was waiting for a moster to come in frame at any moment. :)
THE SITE SAYS $10K??? WTF
They always put 10k, the price updates when the printer releases tomorrow.
Sovol cloned not the Voron! They cloned the clone…..the Troodon!
wow it was under $500??? Its $10k now and sold out :'(((((((
I dont think the price on the website was real
$10k is the "go away" price
It is just a place holder, the printer has not been released yet.
Placeholder price for some dumb reason
"I didn't ask for it, or want it"......
Well without it you wouldn't be making this video, which wouldn't in turn be making you a wage! So maybe a little less of the "it's beneath me" attitude next time when someone asks you to review something 😬😬😬😬
Ok boss! 👨🔧
or...he could be making an interesting video about something else. Sadly too many 3D printing channels become less and less about actual projects and more and more about reviewing an endless onslaught of nearly identical machines. The disdain is appropriate and appreciated in my mind.
This printer has a potential fatal design flaw. I have been a product and machine design engineer for 40 years. The plastic bed mounts to a plastic chassis. You don't need to be an engineer to figure out this is an unstable inappropriate materials choice. My bed is badly warped and the ABL cannot compensate. So I get prints where the nozzle crushes the filament in one area and prints loose and to high in another. People who buy this printer would typically do so because it has a large bed but its of no use in you cant get a decent first layer. Based on my experience I would recommend against purchasing this unit. If you just print small parts like the benchy it will likely do well but try to print anything larger and it may be very problematic.
Interesting you have posted this same comment under every video talking about this machine.
$10k for this printer? No thanks. Good review as always!
Way better than the thiefs at creality and anycubic *spits*
it price here in the UK $9,999,00 thats way to much for that printer
That's not the real price. It's just not up for sale yet. Why they do that instead of just saying when it will be available is beyond me. Marketing garbage.
Placeholder price
Same in the US, $9,999 or €9,999 in the EU. Just a placeholder price for now before sales go live.
I really don't like this machine.
Care to elaborate?
Man 15 sec and no views hahaha
Let’s design a hot end where you can’t see the first layer. Great idea.
The SV07+ is fantastic for that, which is why I took off the hot end cover, the lights, the parts cooling fan, and made a whole new parts cooling system.