Can we just pause for a moment to appreciate that, after all these years, we are watching a video giving us the tactics for freakin' Zodiark. Day actually came.
yea, kind of disappointing that he was like a nothing boss in the end. I wonder if we'll ever get to see him at full power and not missing limbs and half his torso.
@@SpydersByte if you consider what follows his death, I’d say he still packed a punch regardless, what with starting what should have been an unavoidable apocalypse.
@@SpydersByte The whole moon part was a little disappointing imo. Before the game came out the moon was constantly hyped up like the big ending to the saga, but you just go there really early quickly beat up Zodiark and never really return for anything important. Even the part of it being a huge ship is kinda pointless since we just beat up Meteion.
I've found speaking out loud with this fight has really helped me become the dorito for my groups. For the snake + fire wall patterns, I'll say out loud "if he rotates right, column 1 and 3 are safe", and then do the opposite if I see he's rotating left. Or for star patterns "side, center, then boss's face. Side, center, then boss's face." Really helps me out.
The way I handle the rotating snakes is partly because I noticed they’re never next to each other, it always alternates safe line, unsafe line. So I just look at one snake and the rotation arrow, if that snake is on the first row in rotating direction I know I am safe on the second row, and vice versa.
Since the Minstral's Ballad is like an exaggerated retelling of events, it would have been fun to have Zodiark be 100% complete in appearance for this one.
This is the best trial thumbnail and title I've seen for an endwalker trial so far. It's extremly clear for us that have finished the msq, without spoiling a thing for those that haven't
And the beauty of it is that he can, and will, change it to show the Trial in due time when things aren't as spoilery; there are people who still can't even log in... If only other TH-camrs were as considerate.
@@minertia8370 its been changed since I wrote this comment. Originally the title called it something like "the accessories trial" and the thumbnail didn't show the boss
Thankyou for the guide. I was struggling to understand this fight and now I'm sure I can do it. The book closing analogy is great to understand that mechanic.
I don't have much luck with "Follow the leader" during Astral Eclipse. When going diagonally to the third safe spot, I always seem to get clipped by one of the other hits. Frustratingly, I die right on top of the circle in the safe spot. Bad for my blood pressure. When I try to make my own pattern, instead of following the group, I always seem to go for the other safe spot. Splits the party up. And since I'm not exactly great at this, I see people going another way, doubt myself, try to follow, and end up a step behind and dead. But this is the first EX I've done as current content. I'll get better, and the pugs will get better as well.
Thanks heaps dude, I’ve been playing this game on and off since Stormblood and only finished MSQ when Endwalker was 2 months away, so Extremes and Raids have been new to me, a bit daunting when you first start but the community is fantastic and the fights are definitely intimidating the first time but are a lot more doable than anticipated. Your videos are awesome, thanks again!
I've been struggling with astral flow, your description of how you resolve it was helpful. Kind of reminds me of how I would resolve the player's shadow mechanic in e10s. Ty
I actually think a lot of people respected expedience, it was more-so that scholar seemed boring and basic compared to sage as well as all the flashy new skills everyone got. It made them look neglected, and the awkward run-into-art of war at the end of their job action trailer made that impression worse lol. As my rule of thumb, the classes in games that look "meh" are usually very effective in use.
My brain is too smooth to even want to deal with all the crap going on in these fights nowadays. I avoid savage fights too, so have fun if it’s your thing! I appreciate the guides in any case.
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 I'm highly considering maining MCH. Thanks to near 100% uptime I can focus on mechanics. It's the only job I could beat Memoria Misera EX with.
@@Glenningway Yeah I went back to MCH because it’s so easy while trying to pay attention to other things, and I don’t have to worry about keeping convoluted buffs up and using positionals like DRG.
I have mostly a problem with the drastic contrast to attacks and arena brightness While the 2nd Trial has only bright colours, can I adjust my vision to that, but my eyes are sensitive to bright lights, which makes it harder on me when the Arena is scattered with Marker and each attack fills the arena with anything brighter that the Arena itself and almost blinding me. Even changing the brightness doesn't help me much
I can't with the rotation, doesn't matter how I do it, I can do everything else without getting hit once, but once the arena spins? blank, absolutely, completely blank
Still haven't been able to figure out Astral Eclipse lol. I understand the book analogy but trying to decipher that puzzle in my head from 3 different angles in real time is so hard to do.
I will definitely rewatch this, but I’m wondering a few things. Would 560 gear be good enough? And is this pugable right now? Don’t really have a static nor any time to join one.
Yes 560 gear is enough, the most important is knowing how to play your job, and people pug savage raids just after their release so this is "easily" pugable. :)
The problem I found with Astral Eclipse, especially after seeing your video, is that the safe spots don't seem to be according to the direction you are facing at the time. In normal, however, that is how you tell them. So while I've been consistently killed by a meteor from the first set in extreme, in normal this mechanic gives me no trouble. A friend told me about the book explanation, but even after seeing you describe it, I'm afraid I still don't understand it at all.
@@wastedkami9605 imagine the spline of the book is the edge of the arena closest to the dots. Then imagine a book closing. Dots on bottom is closest to the edge.
When I did it my first time I was expecting to learn but instead it was follow the Dorito, and I got my first clear by following the leader, that was a first lol
You mentioned in the end that he will charge some kind of insta kill that ends the trial, it takes about 11 minutes to charge. So theoretically if the party doesn't attack and simply dodges the whole time, zodiark will just sit there for 11 minutes and let you wail on him?
Thank you for the guide. It helped a lot, even though most of these mechanics i saw in the first fight or they just seem to be the regular mechanics on steroids and mixed with a few new elements. It really isn't that hard. Thank you though.
This guide is so much better than Xenosys' guide where he insults the viewer and shits on people while screwing up most every single mechanic himself. Glad I unsubbed from him and subbed to you.
Maybe it’s personal preference but these are the only guides I can watch. Others are too quick-fire, so t have enough visual representation, or just don’t explain well.
Nice to see the name of the trial was put here for spoilers while a certain other person censored its name to not spoil it fun times am i right.... and its probably rushed lol
The level 90 ability for white mage. Basically for 12 seconds (up to 5 times) whenever the whm is hit the lily does a powerful aoe so it's a perfect counter to styx
for me visuizing snakes is easy but if his (mr happy's) way of it aint working ive got a surjestion for yall its put 1 2 3 and 4 from top left of the stage to tope right and using 1 as reference put a b and c down the length of the stage and snakes should become very easy to solve
This ex is just terrible, not because its too hard....but because any ANY server hiccup snapshots you too hard. The meteors are too unforgiving...if you have less than half a second lag its instant death...
honestly a terribly designed fight if you ask me, if the rotating floors wasent confusing enough clutter the stars dont even land where they are marked to land, there's a reason most PF's need a marked drivers to navigate through these mechanics, hydalin fight was far better
I like it because I can actually do it. The Paradaigma stuff i’m still being handheld in. I do make sure i hold my sprint for it though. Without sprint it feels like you’re really cutting it close.
You might have to rename this soon, I can't find this video by searching "Zodiark Extreme Guide" so only your viewers will see this and I don't think you want that.
Stars are awful. Just awful. I know how they're SUPPOSED to work and pan out, but when it comes to the actual mechanic and doing it....... blank. Why can't it just be: Gap at North run North. Gap at east run east. No..... it has to be a bleedin inverted mirror from the 7th chamber of hell.
Feel free to make the same comment on all the other guides then, or better yet dont click on them :) I guarantee you that no one cares if you think they're easy.
@@Miztique it's not about my godlike skills, it is about having to deal with people that can only follow one set guide and are unable to improvise if something goes wrong. Or being able to execute mechanics in any different way than shown on the guide.
People make the guides because skill level differs between players. Some play better with a learned strategy. Others improvise and learn on their own. Now, if you wanna talk Pug, most pugs follow a specific guide so the fight goes smoothly. If you don't want people or you are bothered with them because they follow stritctly a guide, then make a static and stfu tbh lol
Can we just pause for a moment to appreciate that, after all these years, we are watching a video giving us the tactics for freakin' Zodiark. Day actually came.
Just wait for Zodiark Ultimate
yea, kind of disappointing that he was like a nothing boss in the end. I wonder if we'll ever get to see him at full power and not missing limbs and half his torso.
@@SpydersByte if you consider what follows his death, I’d say he still packed a punch regardless, what with starting what should have been an unavoidable apocalypse.
@@SpydersByte "see him at full power and not missing limbs and half his torso" Zodiark. Ultimate.
@@SpydersByte The whole moon part was a little disappointing imo. Before the game came out the moon was constantly hyped up like the big ending to the saga, but you just go there really early quickly beat up Zodiark and never really return for anything important. Even the part of it being a huge ship is kinda pointless since we just beat up Meteion.
"Mark the person who is confident"
Ah yes, the emotional support Dorito
as a healer, i've noticed the Phobos DoT is based on initial dmg taken so please shield and mitigate!
That's a good tip. Ty
The chaos of this fight makes me real excited to try it out
The book closing analogy for eclipse is so good, thanks a lot!!!
I've found speaking out loud with this fight has really helped me become the dorito for my groups. For the snake + fire wall patterns, I'll say out loud "if he rotates right, column 1 and 3 are safe", and then do the opposite if I see he's rotating left. Or for star patterns "side, center, then boss's face. Side, center, then boss's face." Really helps me out.
Yes! My fiancé and I play next to each other, and calling out mechanics as I see them genuinely help me more than it helps her lol
The way I handle the rotating snakes is partly because I noticed they’re never next to each other, it always alternates safe line, unsafe line. So I just look at one snake and the rotation arrow, if that snake is on the first row in rotating direction I know I am safe on the second row, and vice versa.
Poor Quetzalcoatl getting called a mere bird. Helpfull guide. Thank you.
From a FFVIII GF, to the final boss in Akadaemia Anyder, to a simple raid mech.. how tragic.
Loving the visual aesthetics in this new guide, Haps. Keep it up sir
Since the Minstral's Ballad is like an exaggerated retelling of events, it would have been fun to have Zodiark be 100% complete in appearance for this one.
I thought the same thing XD
wait for Zodiark Ultimate :D
@@NikopolAU if Zodiark Ultimate becomes a thing I will 100% have to get good enough to beat it cus of obvious reasons
This is the best trial thumbnail and title I've seen for an endwalker trial so far. It's extremly clear for us that have finished the msq, without spoiling a thing for those that haven't
And the beauty of it is that he can, and will, change it to show the Trial in due time when things aren't as spoilery; there are people who still can't even log in... If only other TH-camrs were as considerate.
Am i missing something here? If anything its quite the opposite 😂
@@minertia8370 must've changed it back already
@@minertia8370 its been changed since I wrote this comment. Originally the title called it something like "the accessories trial" and the thumbnail didn't show the boss
Changed it 5 days after putting the video out
Those are some fancy looking AoE markers you got there
Thankyou for the guide. I was struggling to understand this fight and now I'm sure I can do it. The book closing analogy is great to understand that mechanic.
I don't have much luck with "Follow the leader" during Astral Eclipse. When going diagonally to the third safe spot, I always seem to get clipped by one of the other hits. Frustratingly, I die right on top of the circle in the safe spot. Bad for my blood pressure. When I try to make my own pattern, instead of following the group, I always seem to go for the other safe spot. Splits the party up. And since I'm not exactly great at this, I see people going another way, doubt myself, try to follow, and end up a step behind and dead.
But this is the first EX I've done as current content. I'll get better, and the pugs will get better as well.
Sprint is easy to use for the star patterns and should be up if you haven't used it in a panic previously.
That star pattern book analogy is kinda crazy. Never looked at it that way but it makes it so much easier to understand!
I am looking forward to throwing down on Zodiark now.
Thanks Mr Happy
Thanks heaps dude, I’ve been playing this game on and off since Stormblood and only finished MSQ when Endwalker was 2 months away, so Extremes and Raids have been new to me, a bit daunting when you first start but the community is fantastic and the fights are definitely intimidating the first time but are a lot more doable than anticipated. Your videos are awesome, thanks again!
I've been struggling with astral flow, your description of how you resolve it was helpful. Kind of reminds me of how I would resolve the player's shadow mechanic in e10s. Ty
Don’t mind me, I’m just learning the fight so I can farm me it 2 years from now
Thanks a lot for this Haps. Gonna try this fight again tomorrow.
Update: did 3 attempts and successfully cleared all 6 star attacks without needing someone else. Thanks a lot again Haps.
Congrats! After I collect a couple more 570 pieces, I’m gonna jump in too.
Holy shit..this is my first FFXIV raid on the 17th.... This looks so intense
I'll try this unsynced 10 years from now lol
Ngl I meme'd on SCH's expedience so hard but turns out it's actually pretty good when used like in this guide, so good to help people get to places
I already had to use it in clutch moments a couple times, and I haven't tried any Ex yet.
Anyone that thought that SCH's speed buff was a meme/bad obviously never played the Bozja dungeons.
I actually think a lot of people respected expedience, it was more-so that scholar seemed boring and basic compared to sage as well as all the flashy new skills everyone got. It made them look neglected, and the awkward run-into-art of war at the end of their job action trailer made that impression worse lol. As my rule of thumb, the classes in games that look "meh" are usually very effective in use.
People seeing birds… me seeing Quetzalcoatl’s lol
But that's not a Quetzalcoatl. That's a bird of paradise. The former is the feathered snake. The latter... is a bird.
@@misbegotten3508 Even so I only see FF8 Quetzalcoatls.
@@misbegotten3508 It's quetzalcoatl from FF8.
Me who struggled in tower of zot: ah, yes...
My brain is too smooth to even want to deal with all the crap going on in these fights nowadays. I avoid savage fights too, so have fun if it’s your thing! I appreciate the guides in any case.
I heard some people complaining about new summoner being too simple. After doing fights like this, I've decided I desperately want a simple class!
don't worry this one is easy if there is someone that knows where to go
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 I'm highly considering maining MCH. Thanks to near 100% uptime I can focus on mechanics. It's the only job I could beat Memoria Misera EX with.
@@Glenningway Yeah I went back to MCH because it’s so easy while trying to pay attention to other things, and I don’t have to worry about keeping convoluted buffs up and using positionals like DRG.
I just follow people and learn that way its just simpler but even after doing this one I'm still like... confused about everything...
thank you for the book closing analagy, somehow the star mechanic never clicked with me before that
Astral Eclipse aka “Zodiark loves the Booksquirm minigame from Mario Party so much he made it a mechanic”
>:D
ty I understood astral flow cause of you
I have mostly a problem with the drastic contrast to attacks and arena brightness
While the 2nd Trial has only bright colours, can I adjust my vision to that, but my eyes are sensitive to bright lights, which makes it harder on me when the Arena is scattered with Marker and each attack fills the arena with anything brighter that the Arena itself and almost blinding me.
Even changing the brightness doesn't help me much
In terms of mechanics, this trial is insane. Astral Flow is so hard if you want to learn it.
Feels like one of the weaker EXs that i've done at launch. What do you guys think?
I'm ok with that lol
Yes and it's disappointing
Question for anyone that's mastered this: For the star phase, how do you know which order they are falling in?
the order they appear in
I can't with the rotation, doesn't matter how I do it, I can do everything else without getting hit once, but once the arena spins? blank, absolutely, completely blank
Me too it's like my brain shuts off
I watched it 3 times and still do not know wtf to do on the comets lol
Still haven't been able to figure out Astral Eclipse lol. I understand the book analogy but trying to decipher that puzzle in my head from 3 different angles in real time is so hard to do.
great guide for a returner like me who is very rusty on extreme content
I can't wait for zodiark fatal on which the plaftorm also rotatoes during astral eclipse
I will definitely rewatch this, but I’m wondering a few things. Would 560 gear be good enough? And is this pugable right now? Don’t really have a static nor any time to join one.
Yes 560 gear is enough, the most important is knowing how to play your job, and people pug savage raids just after their release so this is "easily" pugable. :)
The problem I found with Astral Eclipse, especially after seeing your video, is that the safe spots don't seem to be according to the direction you are facing at the time. In normal, however, that is how you tell them. So while I've been consistently killed by a meteor from the first set in extreme, in normal this mechanic gives me no trouble.
A friend told me about the book explanation, but even after seeing you describe it, I'm afraid I still don't understand it at all.
The eclipse was the biggest pain. Thanks for the book reference
I'm still not getting it lol
@@wastedkami9605 imagine the spline of the book is the edge of the arena closest to the dots. Then imagine a book closing. Dots on bottom is closest to the edge.
OMG I UNDERSTAND THE SNAKES NOW THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Great videos, dude!
I’ve been waiting for you video lol didn’t want to give anyone else a view bud
That one mario party book minigame has prepped so so fully for the star attack
I have never done a current extreme primal before. Hoo boy this is gonna be rough
This is nucking futs.
tbh considering who it is, I'd be annoyed if it wasn't.
Mario Party has prepared me for this trial
Got my full BiS set, weapon from hydaelyn some items from pandaemonium and now progged zodiark ex. ty for help
When I did it my first time I was expecting to learn but instead it was follow the Dorito, and I got my first clear by following the leader, that was a first lol
You mentioned in the end that he will charge some kind of insta kill that ends the trial, it takes about 11 minutes to charge. So theoretically if the party doesn't attack and simply dodges the whole time, zodiark will just sit there for 11 minutes and let you wail on him?
What? He casts the enrage and wipes you 11 minutes 37 seconds into the fight. He doesn't start casting an 11 minute cast lol
@@kcaz64 ah ok. So you only have 11 minutes to kill him?! That's seems kinda tight.
Thank you for the guide. It helped a lot, even though most of these mechanics i saw in the first fight or they just seem to be the regular mechanics on steroids and mixed with a few new elements. It really isn't that hard. Thank you though.
Well aren’t we just a Chad
Would ppl say this is easier than Hades EX?
I thought Illidan was on vacation but he was here...
This guide is so much better than Xenosys' guide where he insults the viewer and shits on people while screwing up most every single mechanic himself. Glad I unsubbed from him and subbed to you.
I always look at the arena rotation backwards v.v
Maybe it’s personal preference but these are the only guides I can watch. Others are too quick-fire, so t have enough visual representation, or just don’t explain well.
Makes me sad this fight is too hard for me lol.
Sucks to suck
So practice
birds? arent those quetzalcoatls?
Nice to see the name of the trial was put here for spoilers while a certain other person censored its name to not spoil it fun times am i right.... and its probably rushed lol
Apomnemoneumata = "Memorials" or "Memoirs"
More accurately, "Memoribilia", a collection of writings by Xenophon in defense of his mentor, Socrates.
What is lily bell? Someone help xD
The level 90 ability for white mage. Basically for 12 seconds (up to 5 times) whenever the whm is hit the lily does a powerful aoe so it's a perfect counter to styx
for me visuizing snakes is easy but if his (mr happy's) way of it aint working ive got a surjestion for yall its put 1 2 3 and 4 from top left of the stage to tope right and using 1 as reference put a b and c down the length of the stage and snakes should become very easy to solve
TY Happy :)
I missed these guides lol
Like that you said put a marker over someone's head and follow them lol
I miss MTQ Capture
3 squiggles away got it. Jk love the guide as always
Man, your wording for explanations is just so unbelievably confusing sometimes
Half way through.. hmm might be easier to just not. 😂
I just follow people who know where to go XD
This ex is just terrible, not because its too hard....but because any ANY server hiccup snapshots you too hard. The meteors are too unforgiving...if you have less than half a second lag its instant death...
Really would've appreciated a spoiler-free title and thumbnail, but okay
It was spoiler free for almost 5 days before it was changed
Please, like you weren't expecting a trial fight involving Zodiark when Endwalker was going to close out the Zodiark/Hydaelen arc in the first place.
@@Mrhappy1227 Five days is not enough time unfortunately. A lot of people are away for the holidays and havent even gotten to start their journey
honestly a terribly designed fight if you ask me, if the rotating floors wasent confusing enough clutter the stars dont even land where they are marked to land, there's a reason most PF's need a marked drivers to navigate through these mechanics, hydalin fight was far better
It isn’t a “terribly designed fight” just because you haven’t come to understand the mechanics yet. Keep at it, you’ll get it
I fucking hate Astral Eclipse with all my guts, holy fucking shit
I like it because I can actually do it. The Paradaigma stuff i’m still being handheld in.
I do make sure i hold my sprint for it though. Without sprint it feels like you’re really cutting it close.
You might have to rename this soon, I can't find this video by searching "Zodiark Extreme Guide" so only your viewers will see this and I don't think you want that.
This is the worst trial ever made, I hate it
Aren't people a little too obsessed about spoilers?
Stars are awful. Just awful. I know how they're SUPPOSED to work and pan out, but when it comes to the actual mechanic and doing it....... blank. Why can't it just be:
Gap at North run North.
Gap at east run east.
No..... it has to be a bleedin inverted mirror from the 7th chamber of hell.
Why are you making these videos? These fights are easy enough to figure out.
Feel free to make the same comment on all the other guides then, or better yet dont click on them :) I guarantee you that no one cares if you think they're easy.
@@ismHAKUREI mm, skip soar or disband
@@Miztique it's not about my godlike skills, it is about having to deal with people that can only follow one set guide and are unable to improvise if something goes wrong. Or being able to execute mechanics in any different way than shown on the guide.
this trial is near fucking impossible XD
People make the guides because skill level differs between players. Some play better with a learned strategy. Others improvise and learn on their own.
Now, if you wanna talk Pug, most pugs follow a specific guide so the fight goes smoothly.
If you don't want people or you are bothered with them because they follow stritctly a guide, then make a static and stfu tbh lol