fireb0rn reacts to the Hollow Knight Any% No Major Glitches TAS
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ConstructiveCynicism has created an Any% No Major Glitches TAS in 28:59 and it does not disappoint one bit. It's got tons of crazy skips and movement optimizations and is a blast to watch. I try to explain some of it and mostly fail, but I hope you enjoy the video regardless!
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If you'd like to see more of this, check out ConstructiveCynicism, the person who made the TAS!
YT: th-cam.com/channels/t68_jFxHpPJXDhw8U_LgWA.html
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/constructivecynicism
i love watching tasses and having you talk about it noting the things i would normally miss is so much more awesome, id really love it if you'd do more tas videos like low% true ending
fyi he doed a lot of rng manipulation in the teacher's archive to do all the jellyfish shenanigans
@@holykrap6341 wait i thought the jellyfish has no rng??
btw the pause in black egg is unintentional, he didn't notice it up until he finished hollow knight and then he didn't want to ruin the rng built and start over but said he will come to that at a later date ( rng is derived and manipulated from every input at at any given time so to take the whole thing a second back will ruin the rng and will not work)
@@kyokajiro1808 their spawn location is the rng (the big jellyfish he use for an explosion pogo to get out is the most critical)
My favourite part of this TAS was by far the Uumuu fight, guiding that projectile all the way down to the fight is just so crazy
This instantly reminds me of the TAS Super Meat Boy, luring the homing projectile but just because it can: th-cam.com/video/EF7ISgbS2-w/w-d-xo.html at 25:46
dream smp guy (sorry i have to)
Same
@@anshshah2363 just mcyt theories in general
If a player ever dud that ib a speedrun it would be insane
Watcher knight fight looked like damage was dealt in time with music. That was nuts
yeah
Rhythm Knight
HollowDancer
*omg is this the real epic gamer 69 420 no scope 360 no scam 100% legit Relyea* 😳😳😳
Cant unhear it now
Man TAS is such a good speed runner, he speedruns everything
m yes gotta love TAS gotta be my favourite runner by far
I agree TAS is insane definitely a god gamer
True!!!
Who is tas and why is he so good of a speedrunner
Its literally a ai that is made to frame perfect to dogde things and finishes any game for you at the perfect time and speed
The pause right before THK was actually the only error that we know of for the TAS, they didn't realize they did that and TAS'd the whole THK fight before realizing, and didn't want to redo it (the RNG manipulation probably took a while)
This ^^^
@@constructivecynicismsr Btw, congrats on the TAS, it's amazing!
@@constructivecynicismsr ayyy
@@constructivecynicismsr yeah, congrats. Do you have plans of improvement inf the future?
@@banzaihennessey8838 the tools don't allow easy improvements, so while we're waiting for those to be worked on i'll probably start up a different category
I love how happy you get when you see one of your speedrun skips/tactics in anyone else's run
sometimes ya gotta brag a little 😏
@@fireb0rn ego freak
@@KompadoodleLEL calm down
@@frostyfrog3018 ?
@@KompadoodleLEL he’s the god gamer ofc he deserves to flex 🙄
Tiny detail I appreciated was that when dying for shade skip, he timed a vengeful spirit to kill the bug he died to, picking up 3 geo in the process.
He respawned with the geo pre-shade
Whoa, I didn't even notice. That's awesome.
I find it fascinating how far you can push speedruns with tas, definitely was entertaining to see your reaction to it too
My favorite TAS speedrun has to be the Celeste runs, they're absolutely incredible.
@@cyceryx don’t you love how on 8C they just obliterate the momentum physics? Yeah me too
@@cyceryx agree
@@Hazelpls 8C TAS might be my favourite thing out of any game ever, although the Umuu in this is also really cool
i like how lem always beats you back to his shop regardless of how fast you are. lem is faster then even this TAS. sorta' reminds me of the fact that Cornifer always seemingly beats you to any area you find him in, and apparently with enough time to do some exploring and make a map. there two are the true gods of hollow knight lmao.
For the wait before THK:
CC said he just holded cdash for 1 second too long and realized only after the THK fight.
Considering he took 8 hours to do that he preferred to keep that in.
(just changing the time he over holded cdash would change the rng manipulation for the THK fight and he would have to change it all)
Ngl, i think that one extra second saved time, the hollow knight did a lot of forward dashes and i doubt he does then based on position alone like some enemies do, otherwise players would know it and abuse the dash
@@riolu477 you can manipolate the RNG while fighting THK, he can save that 1 second and still have a perfect THK fight like the one he did in this video
@@3vs891 Ehhhh, rng is suggestive from game to game, if you could manipulate it so much from within the fight, wouldn't they have made THK repeat a few actions even more?
@@riolu477 if you watch the fight he gets enough soul for a fireball then THK dashes for a triple hit every time.
Rng changes for every single movement, inventory opening, nail hit, spell cast ecc you do, but if you do the same exact input every game the RNG will be the exact same, every time.
@@riolu477 I’m pretty sure they can manipulate it to the point where they can make the boss or enemies do whatever they want, so whatever combination of attacks is probably optimal
22:12 Fireborn: It's time for pogaxe.
Tas: We don't do that here.
29:25 that is the most satisfying climb ive ever seen
HOLY
You should watch Tas for the white palace. It does thorn skips every time and the instant wings are insane
Me: _Struggles against Mantis Lords_
The Knight according to the lore:
Tis fine friend, soon ye shall zoomin throughout Hallownest with the mightiest of spells
Im On The Same Boat...Except Im Also Struggling With Soul Master
@Ricardobr14 they’re easy once you learn the patterns. Mantis Lords was my favorite boss fight.
@@scuppo this is too true. I struggled bad at almost every boss but when I went for the speedrun 2 achievement and grinded the pantheons everything came like instinct
@@zachhenon Yeah, Similar thing to the pantheons with me too.
"It's been a while since I speedran this category"
Fire is a TAS confirmed.
Oh man it's so cool to watch TAS runs with speedrunner commentary over them because I never have any idea like *why* the TAS is as cool as it is, and runners are so crazy knowledgable about the time saves and how they compare to player runs!!
From the moment he gets mantis claw, this run is just wall-cling storage after wall-cling storage after wall-cling storage...
And that's bad or what?
You came here to see an almost perfect run, so... that's what you get.
@@helion_ut Definitely not bad, just making an observation. I actually think it's really cool to see just how far the game can be pushed
It's not tas he just has a good gaming chair and foot rest
Bro I have the Infinity Gaming Chair like id play betzer than a tas Since we all know gaming chairs are more importand then skips pc setup
Everyone always says the gaming chair is key, but you've clearly got the true secret. No one ever suspects a good foot rest.
OK time for acid skip using cdash... or may be not :O
And fire's reaction video is always so cute to watch XD
I don’t think they used c-dash for any actual skips, they just needed to follow the same route. That means an even quicker any% is possible if it breaks the rules
@@benjaminmenist That bit with following the same route was referring to this rule:
"Wallcling storage, so long as glitchless movement through the same space with current items and room state is available to the player."
Wallcling storage enables a player to not have to go through the gauntlet but instead "flying" over the gap which you cross after getting c-dash. That's the tidbit with "same route".
They didn't use c-dash for any actual skips as far as I could tell, but it's apparently still an overall time save to get and use it for for faster room clearing.
You know you've made a good TAS when a speedrunner watching it asks what the hell is going on.
one of the best too
13:12 maybe this has already been said, but I think the reason it looks like he’s holding left and right at the same time is because most videos on TH-cam run at 30 FPS while hollow knight likely runs at 60 FPS. So the fastest way to move left and right is to essentially press it once every other frame which makes it look like it’s being held down because of TH-cam’s slower frame rate
not really, it is just the input-display showing inputs for longer than 1 frame because otherwise humans mostly wouldn't be able to understand the inputs (and not be able to see them at 30 fps video quality). It is for our convenience. The original video is 60 fps.
yeah, gotcha, I figured it might be a framerate thing
@@JoschuaZachmann ah ok, I had figured it was possible that was the reason
Nerds...
If I remember correctly it's actually pressing and releasing every physics frame, so you'd need 100fps video to be able to see it (and even then you'd need to slow it down to _actually_ see it)
Got this game about a few weeks ago and am facing down radiance in my first ever playthrough. This game is amazing and I even got my 9 year old brother into it. He beat the hollow knight with 63% completion after 41 hours.
he did better than my first run lmao. i had 40% after 50 hours
Been trying to beat The Radiance off an on for a few weeks now...I get so close then die and have to walk away out of frustration...some day I'll beat her
@@USMCRabbit tip when i was first beating her, just take it super slow, if you see a free spot take it. be really careful of the projectiles and save your soul during the HK fight. you'll get her soon :p
@@tuwubah I definitely found that taking it slow is best, I just wind up making a mistake or 2 that ends the fight. I wish we didn't have to re-fight THK every time because that's where I screw up most often.
@@USMCRabbit this comment is so funny to me after 40 hours of grinding and slogging through every boss in the game in godhome just to reach absolute radiance, you have no idea how much worse it gets lol. But don't worry, the feeling of beating that mf alone is enough to make it all worth it
The amount of effort that you have to put into a TAS is unbelievable to me
At least the actual creation time is probably roughly comparable to grinding out regular speedruns, no? Obviously, doing a single human run is much faster but you generally have to do a bunch of them to get a good time.
So I'd say speedrunnig in general just takes a lot of time and dedication. Especially considering that there's also a lot of time spent on routing, finding bugs and places to use them, etc. And I guess for TASs some people certainly spent a lot of time to actually create the tools which are used for doing them in the first place. But still, it's not just TASs that take a lot of effort.
@@1vader True, true
@@1vader Of course! It's just that a great proportion of the community aren't as impressed by TAS speedruns as they are by RTA speedruns. It's important to give them more appreciation, considering that they both take a LOT of effort.
28:18 Skurry actually explained that during the City of Tears part, he got wall cling storage right before the screen transition, and you actually keep wall cling storage when going through vertical transitions, that's why he was able to wall cling storage without touching anything
Skurry uses they/them pronouns
@@Stera1984 my bad, i didn't know
@@Stera1984 OP is using "he" to refer to the creator of the TAS here though?
@@shacuras8201 pronoun police doesn't care
@@Raykon333 Calm down, twas a mistake. The OG commenter didn't seem to know anyway, so some good could have been done.
17:00 Dude all of his attacks being PERFECTLY in time with the music is so unbelievably satisfying. I know absolutely nothing about Hollow Knight speedrunning, but this video is amazing and that satisfying fight make it more amazing.
The genuine joy you got when the Beast Den grub got ignored had me dying.
The attacks lined up perfectly with the music at the watcher knights fight at 17:04-17:07, neat!
Why do I feel that’s intentional
Smh fire everyone knows this is just leaked footage of bug's WR any% speedrun.
True
Very true
How did you post this comment 2 days ago but the video is not even 20 hours old 😟 does nobody see this😟
@@josephmaldonado58 they're a member so they get videos early
@@snow-ld8yx thought I was just trippin balls for a second there
Wooo more tas reactions shroomPog
Wall cling makes the knight really sound like a bug
About the wait on the CD in the Hollow Knight Room, Constructive Cynicism confirmed that this was a mistake that he only noticed after he had already spent hours on doing the HK fight, so he would've had to completely redo it due to this completely changing the RNG
Incredible, unbelievable, tremendous, stunning, awe-inspiring, staggering, astonishingly formidable, improbable, sublime, utterly extreme, magnificent, wonderful, marvellous, spectacular, remarkable, phenomenal, prodigious, miraculous, amazing, breathtaking.... T.A.S.
that pause at the end was a the only mistake in the TAS and constructive cynthisism had to write the whole THK fight again to fix that
would’ve had to*. he did not as it took 10hr to complete the rest of the run, and he chose not to undo that effort by restarting from the cd
31:33 I was watching BlueSR’s reaction and he pointed out that the reason there was that wait during c-dash is because constructivecynicism told him that part was the only mistake in TAS that he’s aware of.
06:00 you know its good content, when the normal jump look like mantis claw jumps
Honestly all this Tas has proven for me is just how insane Pest’s Any% time is
17:03 can we appreciate that these hits were in perfect time with the music
Watching this after a long stressful day at work makes it all worth it. HK is one of my few comfort games and you're one of my favorite content creators and speedrunners, so that's great to have a reaction video from you. Thank you!
The walkling storage (i think thats how you type that) is done by grabing the wall 1 frame later jump away from it the next frame grab it, and the next frame dash from it
YES it is done in 4 frames
wall cling
I’d love to see a TAS of the ismas tear route, just to see how optimized it could be
I was just thinking this!
Isn't it technically faster due to the time you save not getting CDash (including lantern/geo farming/saving sly/talking to Lem)? Or a least pretty close?
insane how it skips both required uses of CD with wall cling storage, but still gets it for the rule set lmao. if those wall clings ever get a human set up you can skip both ismas and cd.
That would be insane. Could take it way below 30 minutes
This is a freaking new level amazing. Jeez. uumu strat is mindblowing
BlueSR also posted a reaction and it was revealed there that the wait at the entrance to the egg was a straight-up mistake and it only didn't get fixed because doing so would require redoing the entire bossfight because the RNG would be different
And it took cc 8h to do the fight so redoing it will take another 8h thats why they decided to leave it.
If you’re a TAS, Silksong already exists.
(but in all seriousness, this was wild! The nail knock back strategy alone 😳)
glad to see this run getting more coverage! the techniques in it are just so goddamn cool
That Uumuu fight was insane
Wall cling storage is this game's equivalent of the BLJ
You just took a fucking drink at the same time that i did. Bro that was a how moment
Yes please do more TAS videos!
I love seeing all the tricks and routing and it’s especially nice to have you explain it to us instead of being left in confusion just watching the original footage
love hearing your commentary! its really cool seeing you explain and comment on this TAS!
Imagine living just to contain the infection and a random two foot knight comes along and does all this in less than half an hour
really enjoyed that one and i love your commentary. thanks for keeping making these
“This is gonna be Pest in 2022 if silk song doesn’t release by the way”
*Laughs in 2024 with no silksong*
7:28 there was no extra hit snuck in on mossknight. Mossknight takes 50dmg to kill, a Vengeful Spirit is 15 and a nail strike is 5 at that stage in the game.
That particular Mossknight was hit with one nail, one VS which hit once, and one VS which hit twice.
The Knight has the same soul level at 7:05 as it does after the Mossknight fight. The Knight makes 6 nail hits between these times.
It's awesome that the HK community is getting into TASing, I can't wait to see where this goes
Watched this this morning and really enjoyed your narrative. I'm not very good at Hollow Knight, but I've been trying to stick it out and have really enjoyed your videos and have been just plain amazed with the precision of your movement and your skill on the speed runs (especially with the hunters), so anyway, really enjoyed seeing how impressed you were with this. Thanks for all the entertainment!
one thing the TAS missed is the Nail Animation Cancel up pogo. If you go left and right really quickly at the same time, it cancels the nail swing animation and boosts your swing speed.
really fun to watch this. I always wonder if there's things found or executed in a TAS that players then begin to work on for their runs as well.
I watched Blue react to the TAS. So seeing you react to it as well will be a treat for sure!
I like how Fire addresses TASes when talking about precise and risky strats, as if they were watching this and learning 😆
why does TAS get such good rng, he must just have dream luck
Loved being able to see the hornet fight. Lmao 🤣 🤣
I love how at the beginning of the washer knights fight the hits are synchronized to the music
The reason for the pause on that last cdash is quite simple: CC miscounted frames by 10 and decided not to change it because he was tired of dealing with different rng seeds for THK 😅
Can't wait to see True Ending or APB TAS runs!
Great video! It was very funny!
Id definitely enjoy seeing u check out more Tas’s, especially ones for longer speed runs, super curious just how much time could be shaved off the more lengthy runs.
I want to see a TAS of the Isma's Tear route tbh
I love TAS runs. They are so impressive, just an eye porn.
Also I literally watched this TAS recently, haha. So I just rewatch it with Your commentary. Tbh, Your commentary on this videos are very nice. Many people don't get what's going on when watching speedruns, so they ask the runner. And TAS is going to do even more crazy stuff. Thanks to people, often in marathons, explainign what's going on, I have some understanding on the matter. Like they tell why they do that, what they do and how is this possible, why the game makes it so etc. You always explain this stuff too, but not just that. You are generally good at commenting over these vids.
Also I have a weird feeling that I've seen Your video (this one)... I remember Your commentary... though TH-cam didn't show the red bar on it, which appears on videos You've seen (because it's time stamp of where You stopped watching last time). Weird...
But no, You probably said that somewhere else, because I remember just watching it without the comentary after the TAS got the weird sound effect with wall cling storage and I don't remember You saying anything about this.
Also it's funny that I'm watching Your vids in reverse order (newest to oldest), because I've seen You doing the Mantis damage You at the Mantis Claw and You just said that it's probably the new strat in the speedruns now, but You havent's seen them Yourself yet. Haha, that's really funny. Going back to the past like that.
Oh god. I've seen this multiple time, but never realized that in few frames when You focus after defeating the Holow Knight, Radiance appears briefly (silhouette made of light). That's a nice detail, lol.
TASes are super fun to watch
I LOVE watching TASses and specifically have a soft spot for HK TASses! Could you please react to ''[TAS] Hollow Knight: Pantheon of Hollownest Real Time in 14:56'' Posted to youtube by Cuber Knight? I think that run is insane and I think you and your viewers would love it!
I will! Cuber Knight already gave me permission.
Silksong wait is the greatest push for new speedrun strats in the HK community
The zoom in on hornet 1 is hilarious 🤣
How he gets wallcling storage everywhere is he clings to a wall, unclings, and clings again, which was found not too long ago and cannot possibly be performed by humans as it is within 2 frames
Unless, of course, you have the right gaming chair
TAS stuff starting to happen gets me excited for someone to route and set up the Isma's Tear route.
The Knight as soon as it gets Claw: "I am buzzsaw"
Also, what the hell happened at 25:26
The game thinks you’re on a wall so you can dash and also jump.
Buzzsaw happened
17:04 the fact that they attacked that's Watcher Knight and it sounded the same as the music in background feels so good
This video is pretty old, but at around 22:35 you asked how the TAS got around the laser, the laser actually loses its hit box shortly before the animation stops, so you can miss the laser. Happened to me the other day going through crystal peaks!
me: alright cant wait for fire’s in depth commentary and analysis!
fire: what the hell is happening
everyone gangsta until a tas speedrunner does a double fireball skip with one fireball
This TAS guy is pretty good, he should stream so we can see him speed running
The fact that a maximised TAS is only 3 minutes or so faster than the record holder makes me extremely impressed with the record holder.
When he jumps off the imaginary wall from the cling storage when getting the dream nail it makes me wish I was a robot.
I love how they get the crystal heart exclusively for the rules
Uumuu fight absolutely blew my mind. I've never seen that. It's crazy how the projectiles hit absolutely nothing and finally got Uumuu
Cyn is amazing and this run is... both inspirational and absolutely mesmerizing. Time to learn any% I guess.
The movement leading up to the crystal heart was blindingly fast. TAS is so nutty
Hornet seeing her mother get destroyed at super Sonic speeds: 🗿
Amazing video.
I would really like to see a TAS in P5, smacking the bosses so fast
you and this guy GOD TIER!!!!
That Uumuu fight was the greatest flex I've ever seen
This was so cool fr
When fire accidentally said “killing Zote” instead of “killing the Vengefly King” I was like, “yeah you wish”
The reaction of a TAS is negitive infinity as it can see the future.
theres the p5 tas if you wanna react to that too. i love when high profile people in the community reacts to stuff since (usually) they give good insight into whats going on while still not being a 2 hour long commentated version (even tho i also watched that :D )
Until this intro screen, I always believed that TAS stood for Totally Automated System
I like how he slows down to enunciate 'God... Gamer' just so you know you heard him right.
The wcs used here is cling cling storage, and involves clinging the wall for a frame, holding away from the wall for 4 frames, holding back towards the wall for a frame, then holding away for a frame (and usually dashing).
There's a faster version now where you dont actually need to cling the wall but that wasn't used in this run afaik.
fireborn reacting to this is like really good chess youtubers reacting to chess AI battles
its scary that fire can even understand everything.
for example the uumuu thing
Idk what's more impressive, this TAS run, or the fact that Pest's WR run is only 10% away from perfect. The HK speed running community is amazing!! Thanks Fire!!