Could not agree more about the height,HONDA DO NOT LOWER THE SEAT HEIGHT! just bought a 19 atas, on tip toes, makes me smile just sitting on it, best balanced bike I ever rode, last 3 bikes 2 gsxr 750 & a cb1000r, 21 inch front on the A,T is 100% fine on road 👍👍all the best for Christmas & the new year 🎉
Great for you. I had all the specific problems of this model: TFT touch not working when is cold, burning oil … enough for me. L.E. had the screen replaced and the head cover replaced, so should have a working touch screen and a non burning oil hopefully. Maybe the rest of small issues I'll fix , otherwise brilliant machine
I doubt you remember me from the early AT times. Fish. However, I recently picked up a 2024 ATAS. While I lamented the lower height at first, I still have my 2017 AT. It will be modified more toward off-road use. The 2024 will be a road queen. I'm planning a trip to Alaska next summer to break it in properly.
I love my 2021 ATAS! 5’10”, seat on low position allows me to flat foot which has been important when riding off-road and technical terrain. It’s not a trail bike so of course it feels heavier but not any worse than a T7. Great bike that allows me to comfortably cover highway miles to get to the off-road areas without trading off-road capability. Anyone who nit picks at this bike has simply picked the wrong bike for thier riding needs or is a ktm disciple.
As an inseam challenged rider there are so many bikes you can pick that are 34 to 37 inches tall. I love this bike and great video too merry Christmas to you and your loved ones!
I have a 21 adventure DCT with similar setup as yours, plus swivel foot pegs for more boot support, barkbusters, front mudguard extension to reduce the stone chips on the down tube, quadlock phone holder, tire pressure indicator, but IMO I found the seat very very uncomfortable so at a big expenses changed it to Seat concepts but only a small improvement, they are on to a big winner as you cannot return it after its fitted, I then purchased a Airhawk which isn't perfect but make long haul rides bearable.
I sat on a AT at the dealership about 3 years ago. It was so tall and huge. I couldn't flat foot (and I'm 5'10"), it seemed enormous. I settled for the CB500X...aka as the half-rica twin.
EERA is worth every penny in my opinion. I absolutely love it. Imagine riding fast on asphalt roads and then quickly jumping on the very bumpy gravel road. I'm just changing a mode and my bike suspension is completely different.... you just can't replace this. Your front suspension will be always some kind of compromise... Changing a preload on the back? Ok, it is changing something but not that good. About 2024 africa twin: fortunately standard version will be much better than the previous standard. I will have tubeless 21 18 wheels. It can Have DCT and EERA... so all good except fuel tank capacity.
I love my 2023 crf1100l manual with a quick shifter after two f850 gs I came back to Honda had a 1000 dct but there something about the African twin it put a smile on you face it rides like a road bike is real world quick and the sound of that engine is amazing
Nice update! I have a 2106 first gen standard model. Love it. Sometimes I wish maybe it could have a bit more power or be a tad more supple on the rough stuff but then I ride my 40 year old Harley and am shocked back to reality and realize that actually all the AT's are really good, and that I really have no inclination to upgrade mine - does everything I want and need it to do and looks f**k off awesome to boot. Shame about the new Adventure Sports model being more road orientated, feels a bit like dumbing it down but no doubt will be popular.
Totally agree with everything you said. Swapped the original Bridgestone tyres that wore really quickly..2500 miles!! For Avon Trailrider. Who makes the wind deflectors that you fitted?. I went for the manual gearbox with the electronic suspension. Loving your vids mate.. Keep em’ coming 😁
After owning KTM AND BMW adventure bikes I’m royally over the recalls, the reliability issues and roadside failures, maintenance…. The list goes on. I’m now looking forward to what people call “Honda reliability” I’m looking at buying an Africa Twin. Thanks
I got the same bike but went for the manual with the quick shifter and down blipper. I'm a bit of a short arse so one foot on the ground for me at junctions but I cannot fault it and love it massively
It’s only the 2024 adventure sports that has a 19” front wheel. The standard bike still has a 21”. Im hoping to get the adventure sports next year but not sure about the dct or the manual with quick shifter. With the lower centre of gravity and reduced front wheel diameter plus the torque coming in at lower revs it’s set up for touring and at 5’10” it shuld be spot on for me.
Have a 23 Adventure Sport ES manual , out here in western Canada . One of the best bikes around out here . Long range , regular fuel , comfort and an engine and equipment that will take you there and bring you home , it’s a Honda . 21” front is essential for me personally and deal breaker . So the 24 version is a no go. I own a modern classic . Only 1 glitch , a very twitchy throttle especially in roll off to idle . User Program to minimal throttle response and minimal engine brake helps only a bit . Hunting for a solution so not quite perfect . But that’s it . I love my AT ! Cheers from the mountains . RS.
Hi, Thanks for your opinion. It is a stunning bike. I had the Tricolor 2020 ATAS DCT ES before and now i am considering the Grey Mettalic Matte 2023 ATAS DCT ES. How does the matte color hold in time? The gloss you can polish. It is very nice to clean. Is the matte paint a good option too? Thanks!
Love your reviews of the Africa Twin dude, I'm in the market for an adventure bike, a 2016/17 is more in my price range and I want to try some light offroad stuff, but I've also seen a great deal on an immaculate Crosstourer 1200 DCT 🤔
The 2024 has a 21" front wheel doesn't it? Or Is There a version that doesn't? I'm a 'Halfrica Twin' (CB500X) owner Next I'm either getting a CRF300 Rally alongside my 500x and having 2 bikes, or trading my 500x in and getting an Africa Twin.. Lovely bikes Honda's
@@Mrfish2015 ah, I didn't know that, so it's aimed at tourers not adventurer's, I'd opt for the 21", it'd be rude to get an Africa Twin and not show it some trails 😂
Evening great review I like you ride every day to work I have covered just over 10,000 miles since June 22 and yes I love mine too the only issues I have unlike yourself I find mine too tall as I’m only 5 ft 6 but I manage with a low seat I find the DCT extremely good but still not as good as a manual clutch but would choose a DCT again because it’s so easy to ride the only other issue I have when riding in the rain is my left foot gets very wet my right foot generally stays dry Presently for me my AT DCT ES is a keeper
I just put money down on a 2024 AT and now second guessing if I should have spent 4K more for adv sports. Here in Canada the base doesn’t come with electronic suspension or heated grips as standard. Can the standard be a great long distance tourer as well?
@Mrfish2015 I have the base model, 2021 1100. Motorway cruise at 60mph I get 60+mpg. If I'm out for a twisty blast, 45 to 50mpg. So range is between 200-240miles with 1 bar left on tank! AS gives an extragallon I think, so an extra 50 miles! The base model is a great bike for touring! I have dct, its awesome!!
This is a 2023? From what ive seen of the 2024's, only the adventure sport has a 19" front wheel. The standard is probably taller and has a 21" front wheel (and tubeless tires!!) I'm hoping to buy one if they come to USA
@@TheZakkmyldedid Canada get them in 2023? They didn’t come to the US in 2023 because of “supply chain issues” but I heard the 2024’s should arrive in the US in May
Might be worthwhile doing a DCT clutch initialisation to see if that helps with the clunky gearbox when cold. I do one every so often and the difference is noticeable in the lower gears.
Agree plus frequent oil changes make a huge difference. Had a DCT Crosstourer but when that got too top heavy for this old man I changed to an NC750x DCT and promptly dropped it in a hotel car park! Not the bikes fault but maybe should have carried on with the Crossdresser 😁. It was great in the Pico's apart from some dodgy hairpin bends.
I had the Africa Twin AS on a 2020 plate about 2 years ago , i traded it in for my BMW GS1250 Adventure, i still miss my AT but i remember i had one little issue , it would sometimes stall fir no apparent reason , have you heard of this yourself ? Im thinking of going back to the AT but iv been told i wont like it after having the GS for a couple of years now , they say the AT will feel under powered ?? What do you think mate ??
I’ve had two AfricaTwins as well, I love how they ride and the character. But I’m now on a 2019 KTM 1290 SAS, now that’s a tall bike for us larger men 😁
@@Mrfish2015 They look like tubeless wheels, looks like the spokes go to the edge of the rim may just be the video angle. i only ask because im looking to change my wheels to tubeless on my 2022 AT.Great video
I’ve never seen an ADV bike that you didn’t have to change the seat, change the windshield and possibly add bar risers. I’m not sure why you’re complaining about that!
Like your videos Fish. But.... seems odd to complain about the NEW AT wheel being 19 inches when talking about a DCT bike. DCT bikes are not legitimate off roaders. It's a road bike that can do some gravel and mild double track - get a 19-inch tire.
I agree with some of your comments, but the 2024 AT with the 19 inch wheel, I thought I could have one, but no, there's nothing straight forward with honda, dct only 🤦 I know a lot of owners like it, but I'm not a fan, 19 and manual perfect, or just offer a 21inch as a option for those nutters who want to take their huge adventure bike off road 😅😅
Had mine coming up to 2 years, I've done 33k and it's spent about 6 months in total in the garage on warranty work 🤣 😅wish I'd of had the same experience as you
@@alank9682 still experience, not had it back since 5th December, engine cutting out during riding, and screen malfunction, and exhaust killing itself, oh and the rust is insane 🤣, I cba to list all the parts it's had changed, but let's just say it's called triggers broom for a reason
I don’t have the Africa Twin but I am the proud owner of a 2022 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT which basically has the same power plant! I am seriously considering getting my hands on the Africa Twin just for the excitement and change of riding styles! Thank you for the outstanding review and update! 👏👍
You picked up: 19inch front on 2024 is soooo damn stupid move on ATAS. Touratech crash bars are rubbish, Touratech in general the quality is not good, not taught into details and sw moth tank bag, really?
Could not agree more about the height,HONDA DO NOT LOWER THE SEAT HEIGHT! just bought a 19 atas, on tip toes, makes me smile just sitting on it, best balanced bike I ever rode, last 3 bikes 2 gsxr 750 & a cb1000r, 21 inch front on the A,T is 100% fine on road 👍👍all the best for Christmas & the new year 🎉
Great for you.
I had all the specific problems of this model: TFT touch not working when is cold, burning oil … enough for me.
L.E. had the screen replaced and the head cover replaced, so should have a working touch screen and a non burning oil hopefully. Maybe the rest of small issues I'll fix , otherwise brilliant machine
I doubt you remember me from the early AT times. Fish. However, I recently picked up a 2024 ATAS. While I lamented the lower height at first, I still have my 2017 AT. It will be modified more toward off-road use. The 2024 will be a road queen. I'm planning a trip to Alaska next summer to break it in properly.
Nice , one for every occasion… love it
I love my 2021 ATAS! 5’10”, seat on low position allows me to flat foot which has been important when riding off-road and technical terrain. It’s not a trail bike so of course it feels heavier but not any worse than a T7. Great bike that allows me to comfortably cover highway miles to get to the off-road areas without trading off-road capability. Anyone who nit picks at this bike has simply picked the wrong bike for thier riding needs or is a ktm disciple.
As an inseam challenged rider there are so many bikes you can pick that are 34 to 37 inches tall. I love this bike and great video too merry Christmas to you and your loved ones!
I have a 21 adventure DCT with similar setup as yours, plus swivel foot pegs for more boot support, barkbusters, front mudguard extension to reduce the stone chips on the down tube, quadlock phone holder, tire pressure indicator, but IMO I found the seat very very uncomfortable so at a big expenses changed it to Seat concepts but only a small improvement, they are on to a big winner as you cannot return it after its fitted, I then purchased a Airhawk which isn't perfect but make long haul rides bearable.
I never had a problem with the seat but I know a lot did
Your exhaust system sounds great thanks mr fish
Gorgeous bike! Great review! Ride safe…
Thanks, you too!
I sat on a AT at the dealership about 3 years ago. It was so tall and huge. I couldn't flat foot (and I'm 5'10"), it seemed enormous. I settled for the CB500X...aka as the half-rica twin.
He he he mine is always a version of dirty why because i prefer riding it to looking at it.
He he he mine is always a version of dirty why because i prefer riding it to looking at it.
wow you still dont have snow on Island ;
i have to take my AT out in the wild first time in winter and do some recording ;
EERA is worth every penny in my opinion. I absolutely love it. Imagine riding fast on asphalt roads and then quickly jumping on the very bumpy gravel road. I'm just changing a mode and my bike suspension is completely different.... you just can't replace this. Your front suspension will be always some kind of compromise... Changing a preload on the back? Ok, it is changing something but not that good. About 2024 africa twin: fortunately standard version will be much better than the previous standard. I will have tubeless 21 18 wheels. It can Have DCT and EERA... so all good except fuel tank capacity.
I‘m 185cm and I sat on the 2024 with a 19“, it’s way too low for me so I don’t consider it as an option.
I will go with the standard 2024.
But there is a High seat at 895 cm
I'm thinking the 2024 base model might be the ticket for tall people who like to play in the rough sometimes. With DCT and ES of course!
Sadly as tall people we are getting forgotten about in the modern world 😂
Love it! I recently bought a 2023 non-DCT ATAS.
It's a big bike....good for touring. I haven't taken mine off road yet.
I love my 2023 crf1100l manual with a quick shifter after two f850 gs I came back to Honda had a 1000 dct but there something about the African twin it put a smile on you face it rides like a road bike is real world quick and the sound of that engine is amazing
What a sound. Absolutely fantastic. Love it 😁😁
The 2024 Adventure sport has 19inch, but the standard AT has 21 inch, but yes no cornering lights and 18L fuel tank
And only electric suspension if you spec DCT ..
Never had a AT, would love one! Great review! I fancy a new 2024 AT standard, manual. ❤
Did you get it?
Nice update! I have a 2106 first gen standard model. Love it. Sometimes I wish maybe it could have a bit more power or be a tad more supple on the rough stuff but then I ride my 40 year old Harley and am shocked back to reality and realize that actually all the AT's are really good, and that I really have no inclination to upgrade mine - does everything I want and need it to do and looks f**k off awesome to boot. Shame about the new Adventure Sports model being more road orientated, feels a bit like dumbing it down but no doubt will be popular.
change your forks oil sir, and set compression dampings both front and rear to minimum, thank me later ;
I have the 2018 ATAS DCT, just like you, i love it.
Totally agree with everything you said. Swapped the original Bridgestone tyres that wore really quickly..2500 miles!! For Avon Trailrider. Who makes the wind deflectors that you fitted?.
I went for the manual gearbox with the electronic suspension. Loving your vids mate.. Keep em’ coming 😁
After owning KTM AND BMW adventure bikes I’m royally over the recalls, the reliability issues and roadside failures, maintenance…. The list goes on. I’m now looking forward to what people call “Honda reliability” I’m looking at buying an Africa Twin. Thanks
They still have recalls (most bikes do) but not as many
I got the same bike but went for the manual with the quick shifter and down blipper. I'm a bit of a short arse so one foot on the ground for me at junctions but I cannot fault it and love it massively
It’s only the 2024 adventure sports that has a 19” front wheel. The standard bike still has a 21”. Im hoping to get the adventure sports next year but not sure about the dct or the manual with quick shifter. With the lower centre of gravity and reduced front wheel diameter plus the torque coming in at lower revs it’s set up for touring and at 5’10” it shuld be spot on for me.
It will be a great road bike I’m sure of that .. the standard had a smaller tank and no cornering lights which I find handy .. i
Have a 23 Adventure Sport ES manual , out here in western Canada . One of the best bikes around out here . Long range , regular fuel , comfort and an engine and equipment that will take you there and bring you home , it’s a Honda . 21” front is essential for me personally and deal breaker . So the 24 version is a no go. I own a modern classic . Only 1 glitch , a very twitchy throttle especially in roll off to idle . User Program to minimal throttle response and minimal engine brake helps only a bit . Hunting for a solution so not quite perfect . But that’s it . I love my AT ! Cheers from the mountains . RS.
So 24 version in North America has no 21” front wheel version? Strange coz europe has it still
Bike sounds great with that exhaust on!
Still have 21 inch on the base model 24AT
Yes
Makes me wonder why nobody makes a 20” front wheel to blend on and off road a bit closer instead of keeping 2 inches apart.
Who knows lol
Hi, Thanks for your opinion. It is a stunning bike. I had the Tricolor 2020 ATAS DCT ES before and now i am considering the Grey Mettalic Matte 2023 ATAS DCT ES. How does the matte color hold in time? The gloss you can polish. It is very nice to clean. Is the matte paint a good option too? Thanks!
I don’t really clean it to be honest but when I do it comes up fine
can we change the wheel size from 18" to 21" in the 2024 AT Adventure sport?
Love your reviews of the Africa Twin dude, I'm in the market for an adventure bike, a 2016/17 is more in my price range and I want to try some light offroad stuff, but I've also seen a great deal on an immaculate Crosstourer 1200 DCT 🤔
The crosstourer is definitely not for off road ..
The 2024 has a 21" front wheel doesn't it?
Or Is There a version that doesn't?
I'm a 'Halfrica Twin' (CB500X) owner
Next I'm either getting a CRF300 Rally alongside my 500x and having 2 bikes, or trading my 500x in and getting an Africa Twin..
Lovely bikes Honda's
The 24 adventure sport has a 19” front the standard still has a 21”
@@Mrfish2015 ah, I didn't know that, so it's aimed at tourers not adventurer's, I'd opt for the 21", it'd be rude to get an Africa Twin and not show it some trails 😂
What's the name of the wind deflectors ? :)
The little ones on the side ? If so they are Honda accessories
Evening great review I like you ride every day to work I have covered just over 10,000 miles since June 22 and yes I love mine too the only issues I have unlike yourself I find mine too tall as I’m only 5 ft 6 but I manage with a low seat I find the DCT extremely good but still not as good as a manual clutch but would choose a DCT again because it’s so easy to ride the only other issue I have when riding in the rain is my left foot gets very wet my right foot generally stays dry
Presently for me my AT DCT ES is a keeper
I just put money down on a 2024 AT and now second guessing if I should have spent 4K more for adv sports. Here in Canada the base doesn’t come with electronic suspension or heated grips as standard. Can the standard be a great long distance tourer as well?
They can all do distance
@@Mrfish2015 thanks 😊
@Mrfish2015 I have the base model, 2021 1100. Motorway cruise at 60mph I get 60+mpg. If I'm out for a twisty blast, 45 to 50mpg. So range is between 200-240miles with 1 bar left on tank! AS gives an extragallon I think, so an extra 50 miles! The base model is a great bike for touring! I have dct, its awesome!!
This is a 2023? From what ive seen of the 2024's, only the adventure sport has a 19" front wheel. The standard is probably taller and has a 21" front wheel (and tubeless tires!!) I'm hoping to buy one if they come to USA
I see this a lot. Don’t they come to USA ? I’m in Canada and we get them every year ?
@@TheZakkmyldedid Canada get them in 2023? They didn’t come to the US in 2023 because of “supply chain issues” but I heard the 2024’s should arrive in the US in May
Are you happy with the amount of power it has ? Nice video!!
Plenty
Sorry if iv missed it somewhere but what year is this model? Wanna find the same one
Thanks !
It’s a 22 dct with manual suspension
Any links to what you’ve bought…
I’ve sold the bike now but which bits would you like to know. ?
Mate, that pipe!!!
Got to have one.
Might be worthwhile doing a DCT clutch initialisation to see if that helps with the clunky gearbox when cold. I do one every so often and the difference is noticeable in the lower gears.
Agree plus frequent oil changes make a huge difference. Had a DCT Crosstourer but when that got too top heavy for this old man I changed to an NC750x DCT and promptly dropped it in a hotel car park! Not the bikes fault but maybe should have carried on with the Crossdresser 😁. It was great in the Pico's apart from some dodgy hairpin bends.
I had the Africa Twin AS on a 2020 plate about 2 years ago , i traded it in for my BMW GS1250 Adventure, i still miss my AT but i remember i had one little issue , it would sometimes stall fir no apparent reason , have you heard of this yourself ?
Im thinking of going back to the AT but iv been told i wont like it after having the GS for a couple of years now , they say the AT will feel under powered ??
What do you think mate ??
I’ve had two AfricaTwins as well, I love how they ride and the character. But I’m now on a 2019 KTM 1290 SAS, now that’s a tall bike for us larger men 😁
what about the wheels? they dont look stock
They are stock
@@Mrfish2015 They look like tubeless wheels, looks like the spokes go to the edge of the rim may just be the video angle. i only ask because im looking to change my wheels to tubeless on my 2022 AT.Great video
They are tubeless … standard on the adv sport and now the new standard
A question pls mate.
What did you do with the exhaust valve set-up when you changed the pipe?
And what brand is the pipe?
Top bike mate. Cheers
Yeah following your comment. Interested to. Did you change the down pipes to
Is this model noticeably heavier than the basic L?
I’ve never seen an ADV bike that you didn’t have to change the seat, change the windshield and possibly add bar risers. I’m not sure why you’re complaining about that!
Personal observation not so much a complaint … but you’re right
Nice video, thanks..love mine 👍
Like your videos Fish. But.... seems odd to complain about the NEW AT wheel being 19 inches when talking about a DCT bike. DCT bikes are not legitimate off roaders. It's a road bike that can do some gravel and mild double track - get a 19-inch tire.
Have you ridden a DCT off road ?
I agree with some of your comments, but the 2024 AT with the 19 inch wheel, I thought I could have one, but no, there's nothing straight forward with honda, dct only 🤦 I know a lot of owners like it, but I'm not a fan, 19 and manual perfect, or just offer a 21inch as a option for those nutters who want to take their huge adventure bike off road 😅😅
How this bike is for 2 riders?
Had mine coming up to 2 years, I've done 33k and it's spent about 6 months in total in the garage on warranty work 🤣 😅wish I'd of had the same experience as you
I’m considering one but then hear of experiences like this. What type of issues did you have?
@@alank9682 still experience, not had it back since 5th December, engine cutting out during riding, and screen malfunction, and exhaust killing itself, oh and the rust is insane 🤣, I cba to list all the parts it's had changed, but let's just say it's called triggers broom for a reason
@@ollierai2198 I think that is the worst owners experience I’ve read……I hope things turn around for you.
Love my dct
What triggered me was when you said DCT. WHY?
😂 why triggered .. I’ve had 2 and a manual ..
I don’t have the Africa Twin but I am the proud owner of a 2022 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT which basically has the same power plant! I am seriously considering getting my hands on the Africa Twin just for the excitement and change of riding styles! Thank you for the outstanding review and update! 👏👍
Sorry to hear you own a Rebel mate. Was it your wife’s? 😂
👌👌👌👆
You picked up: 19inch front on 2024 is soooo damn stupid move on ATAS. Touratech crash bars are rubbish, Touratech in general the quality is not good, not taught into details and sw moth tank bag, really?