This video is long because it contains all the riding segments and also the audience Q&A. Are you OK with the longer format with chapters - or do you prefer me to break reviews into a few shorter videos? My thinking is it's easier to find everything in one video. Thoughts?
I prefer longer format videos, generally when a short 'review' or whatever video from anyone shows on my subscriptions or recommendations I tend not to bother. You are really putting some hours in on editing and rendering and publishing these videos. Thanks.
I love this review format. It goes into depth and all the questions I wanted to know or didn't think to ask about the bike as a serious purchase option. I appreciate the effort in editing and flow as well! It's long but I'm glued to it and haven't skipped even a little. Maybe not meant for someone who's just browsing.
I like the long format with the chapters in. I have an 18 dct which I like off-road, and an upgrade to the 1100 sport would give me all the things I don’t have, ES, cruise, heated grips. It is fast enough on the road solo but two up touring I find the power low for overtakes. Do you think the 1100 has enough of an increase? Love the channel!
Great video, i have recently bought the ATAS ES DCT 1100 from watching these reviews and i came to the conclusion that over all for adventure riding this WAS THE BIKE TO HAVE , without doubt , add to that Honda reliability, after market parts and ease of service and its game set and match Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport and i havent mentioned its huge fuel capacity ;) FYI Anybody thinking about DCT , man just go for it you wont be sorry , its fantastic.
I was told by a veteran who has nerve damage in his left leg that the not having to shift is why he got it! big thumbs up! and a thumbs up to Ian on this review.
I just wanted to comment that this was the most comprehensive and accurate review of the Africa Twin Adventure Sports that I found on the internet, or anywhere for that matter. I picked up a 2021 this past week and love the bike. This review was one of the deciding reviews prior to picking up the bike. A few observations: I think they should name D mode “eco” or something and allow the sequence of D to S mode selectable by the user. So into S first for example. I find the DCT works best for me leaving it in S2 or S3 most of the time. I do love the DCT. I found low speed maneuvers easy (wow on the turning radius), but I understand the intimidation as it’s a constant speed turn where you can’t cut power with the clutch to stop, you’re more committed, but have the rear brake in case you need to stop. It’s just a bit different process. The clutch does have a sort of minor “slip” feel at low speed as well which helps. The menu system is fine. I was used to it and all it’s functions within a few hours (Honda makes a simulator too, check it out). The turn signal switch is not well placed and small imo. Car Play is nice to have (waze, tomtom go, Apple Maps, google maps, Gaia (gpx routes), Rever, OSM, etc) and a big factor for me personally (and DCT). I also was shocked that it felt the same weight wise as the Versys 650 I traded. Weight is very well managed. Another surprise was the handling. I had previously spent time with the 2016 DCT model and found it pretty sloppy on a twisty road. This ATAS in tour or urban firms up the suspension and it handles extremely well for a 21/18 wheeled bike. I was not expecting that. It nearly handles as well as the Versys (which is excellent) with the exception of side to side transition due to the wheel size. I’m very happy with it. I had looked at the Tiger 900/GS/KTM’s etc in the process of picking the AT. Deciding factors were the DCT, CarPlay and long range on low octane fuel. The Africa Twin seemed like the best balance for my needs (long range touring with gravel roads in the mix). Wheelie control is neat, kind of wheelie cheat mode, but pretty fun. I 100% agree on 100hp is just right, and this is a bit of Goldilocks in so many ways, power, range, low octane, features, DCT, CarPlay.
I'll checked out your reviews for the first time, and you are head and shoulders above the rest. you discuss above average more clearly and fortunately less quickly than others, a great advantage for non-native speakers. This is really great and deserves a compliment. There are about 2 billion internet connections in this world, of which less than 300 million are at native English speakers. But keep an eye on it, because with some of the other reviews like Ducati… at the end of the review you speak faster and faster as if you have to catch the train.
In addition to all that you have said, the looks of the bike is fantastic. I bought mine in August this year and have already done 8500kms. I love it. It is everything that you have said and more. Not having to worry about a clutch frees your mind to focus on other road matters on and off road. I overcome the time lag of the TFT by turning the ignition to on, pressing the start button, start the engine then putting on my gloves and helmet and by the time that is done the bike is ready to go. It has never been a issue. I bought it with the intention to cross the country and travel dirt roads. I also had my doubts but after the first hour on the bike I was sold.
Good for you George, lol. My start procedure is exactly the same :-) This bike is super comfortable for multiple week touring on all terrains. Have a great 2022 riding season ehh brother 🇨🇦 I was apprehensive on the DCT and ES but so thankful I bailed in. Honda awesome!
Ditto! 2600 miles on this exact model and I absolutely love it. I still have a few minutes in this video to go. Honda recommends oil changes at 8000 miles. I am considering going every 4000. An thoughts on this?
@@forestmotoadventures Oil is cheap my friend, never wrong to change early. I followed manual mostly, sometimes a bit earlier. Get the Mazinga in tank fuel filter, if you have the adventure sports weld shedding issue, as me and buds have. It's the true resolve! Air filters are pain to change but do in my shop to make it easier. Otherwise a great bike and adventure ride offroad or tarmac :-)
I’ve got a 2021 ATAS and absolutely love it. Feels like a klr on steroids. I’ve ridden GSA 850, gsa1200/1250. 850 is nice, the larger bikes are simply too big for me. I will go places I’d never take a big GSA. I’m getting about 475 kms / tank.
@@JohnDoe-ks4id I've got the 2021 dct ES Adv Sport with stock seat. after a number of 300 and 400 mile-plus day trips, it's quite comfortable. i love it and will be heading x-country in the spring. no question!
@@JohnDoe-ks4id I have a 2020 Adventure sports and at first glance, the seat was a little bit hard. Now I have nearly 40,000kms on it and I have installed gel inside the OEM seat and it's perfect!. I can ride 1000km at a day with no extra tireness. Combine that with some Pivot pegz and you ride like a king!...Very comfortable
Ian thanks for this fantastic review. You're doing a great job, this channel and Fortnine are the best bike channels on YT at the moment. Thanks for all the hard work, you deserve more subscribers. That being said I have a hard time understanding why BMW is not offering an automatic yet, I hope they will look at this bike and decide to up their game.
I hear alot of questions about ES and DCT. After 17000 km on my 2020 ATASes I wouldn't buy it without es! Simple flick of switch you have a competent and inspiring ride in dirt, or added weight, or stiff compliant road bike. Biggest surprise for me! DCT makes riding easier and better all around journey bike. When I upgrade in a couple years, both of these features will be on my bike if still available. :-) Well done Honda!!!!
I had a 2017 AT DCT - bought her new and once i changed the rubber to more aggressive tread, armored up, etc., loved it for touring around in the dirt and riding class 6 (and worse) roads/trails. By no means a dirt bike, but absolutely rideable off road. I bought the 1100 this summer after a bit of a wait on it's arrival....got the AS ES, manual clutch...changed out the rubber, armored up, etc and was expecting to be able to ride the same trails, the same way. NO SIR. There are Things I like and things I don't like...long story short, my bicep tendon repair surgery is tomorrow....this thing is HEAVY.
@@rickhavingfun the engine is lighter, the swingarm is lighter, exhaust is lighter, the frame is lighter. multiple moving parts were lightened. the balance of the bike was changed significantly because of how things were moved and that is probably what you perceive. side by side the new model can have all 3 propylene cases and a tank bag before matching the weight of the old one. good luck recovering.
@@512mbflashdrive ....i just pulled the specs for the 2017 dct and 2021 as, es std from the web....maybe sources were wrong. surgery was tuesday...so far its a drag and i just hope it doesnt ruin snowmobile season.
TRed this today. Long TR of 25 kms. I could definitely feel the bump in power. Super torquey engine will throw you off if you aren’t paying attention. The handlebar is 5 cm wider than my VStrom and I appreciated that. The dash is self-correcting for ambient light. I liked that too. But other than these details I was finding it hard to find merit in the bike. Refinement levels were quite pedestrian. There were squeaks in the shocks and rattles from the panels that definitely feel less premium. The staff told me that they took the bike to the local bike week and really beat it up. They said that it will feel better after service. But that said, their bike was only 5k kms old and it left me wondering if I would have to work hard to maintain it after purchase. This is the issue with bikes like the VStrom. They spoil you thoroughly and make you hard pressed to feel impressed with other offerings. After the TR, I rode my VStrom home and could feel nothing but admiration for its absolutely buttery engine. After 11k kms, there are no rattles or squeaks or creaks. No nothing. Just fuss-free performance. Matter of fact, I remember TRing the Tiger 900s in 2020 and walking away feeling not very blown away even then. Coming back to the AT, the engine is definitely not tractable and will kick and lug even if you are in 4th gear at 35 kmph. Not in the Ninja 1000 league for sure. That bike was in 6th at 35 kmph and made zero protest. But maybe that’s an unfair comparison. An Adv with a twin will never be as tractable as a triple or an I4 I suppose.
I love the fact u took the time to get comfortable with the controls. I usually turn the key on the bike before I climb in it. Even when I don't, you don't have to wait for the dash to boot to start riding. You start the bike and go just like on the T7.
This review is why I decided to go with the 2021 DCT Africa twin. I just passed 300 miles and love it. Big switchology change from BMW but I will learn. Have not spent many miles out of sport III and it shifts exactly where I would.
@@PerspectiveBeyond absolutely love my 21 Africa Twin. 6,500 miles in ine year as a second bike. I am surrounded by Daniel Boone National Forest so I have loads of trails & forest roads but no problem on the interstate at 85pmh. No drifting or floating about as on my KTM 640. Grant it, I spent 350 miles on the BMW yesterday but no wooded, shaded, isolated trails. I love the DCT, stopped a couple times yesterday to notice I forgot to downshift the beemer. Nobody complains about DCT once they understand how to use brakes to keep it loaded - ready for log jumps, etc. I can typically idle around at 3pmh or slower. Love my Honda
I wish there was an option to see how many times I’ve watched this video. Does not matter. Pulled the trigger today and put a down payment for Africa Twin AS ES DCT tricolor MY22. Should arrive mid April. You made the decision way easier for me. Thank you so much.
Geography and terrain is a major factor when choosing an ADV bike. I’m in Australia and ride big distances on gravel/sandy/clay/rocky dirt roads in remote but fairly open and flat terrain. That’s why I have an Africa Twin. If I lived in Europe I’d probably get the BMW.
Bought the 21 ATAS ES DCT as my first bike. Couldn't be happier. Being a newer rider the bike has enough power to put you on your ass if you try, but not something to be worried about day to day as long as you have a little common sense. I find my favorite feature being the Android Auto and Apple CarPlay built into the TFT display. Being able to plan a route on your phone, then just plug it into your bike an it shows up on the screen is a huge benefit. No need for an external GPS. I'm 6'5" and around 170lbs. I find the Windshield is the perfect height for me but could be a little wider. What impressed me the most is how well the electronic suspension works. I set User 1 as a super comfortable touring mode with the softest suspension and lower power. And I set User 2 as my ADV squid mode with the most power and the most firm suspension. Going in between the two is like night and day. Like you said, one second you're riding on a cloud, the next you feel every little bump in the road. In conclusion, great review, I agree with all of the points you made. I highly recommend anyone looking at an africa twin to pull the trigger and get one, I don't think you'd regret it. Shameless plug for my Insta and YT: Overland Overtime Ride Safe 👊😎
hiii, Do u have any problems with the Knees? I read about some tall riders who complain that the wide Tank presses on the knees...(I'm 6'5" too) however I hope to try the bike as soon as possible
The AT AS looks soooo huge with you sitting on a small chair in front of it. On the other side: seeing yout climbing this mountain of a bike seem not such a big problem. Well done, Honda. I'd love to own one in tri-color with full specs like this one. Apropos well done: keep on going with this long in-depth reviews! They're informative and very nice to see with all that camera stuff goin on. And of course enjoying your enthusiasm for doing this!
Kudos to you for this review, I think it's the most comprehensive one on youtube for the AS ES DCT. I own this bike and I love it. You hit on one of my two dislikes - standing and griping the tank with your knees feels very awkward and not something you can do for long. My second dislike is the seat, after an hour I find myself getting a pain in my ass. Nothing I can do about the first issue, a Corbin seat solved the second.
I agree Dermot, this is a great review. I went another route with the seat. Went on a 6000 km tour, and my ass broke into the seat, lol, ha ha. Seems fine now, unsure of chiropractor thoughts though, ha ha. Great bike hey! :-)
I have that bike but manual it’s been tailored to suit me, seat screen handlebars etc and I find the bike more fun than my old 2015 R1200GS adventure, never been off-road with it. It’s simply fantastic.
Here in mid-Atlantic, long format great for cold, grey winter days. Summertime, not so much. I lived in Cali for awhile. I've considered watching your Death Valley video while sitting on my bike in the basement. Alas. You do excellent production. Thanks!
What an awesome review! Thank you Ian for your professionalism and honesty! Not too many people spend $30K on the TOP Adv bike and just a few months later test a bike which they overall learn they prefer over their own 👍 Can’t wait to hear your take on the Norden Cheers 🍻 BB
Dude you did an exceptional job with this video. Extremely detailed with great commentary. I’ve been searching for a good video that explained this bike in detail and a comparison to the Adventure model. I’ve gained quiet a bit of value from listening to you! Thank you very much!!
A wonderfully thorough review. So well done. Many of us wont get to try out all of these bikes yet watching this is a great way to experience things through you!
Thanks Ian for a detailed review. I took your advice along with a few others' and put a deposit on a 2022 Red, White, and Blue ESDCT. I'm upgrading from a DR650 which I will miss, but my riding is more street oriented than I expected it to be. I like being out long distances, sightseeing, and visiting Historic locations, and catching some dirt when possible. Being older, 57, I think I will appreciate the DCT, particularly on long trips. I may even start recording and posting videos, who knows! Thanks Ian!!
Great review. I have a 2016 DCT. It took me about a year to fall in love with the DCT, but I can't imagine riding without it now. All the electronics don't tempt me to upgrade to a newer bike. I plan to put a lot of miles on in the next few years touring and doing some off-road. If you ever want to just talk about tires, I'd appreciate watching.
As always, this was a great initial review. I think the AT ES Adventure does offer a good value for a high end, fully loaded street oriented ADV tourer. I think Honda should just carry on with the AT as a tourer, they should probably just drop the base model. The AT can compete with the big ADV tourers from BMW, Triumph, Ducati, etc. They need to follow through with a Trans Alp mid displacement much more off road oriented much lighter weight real ADV bike to replace the base AT. I hope they can keep a Trans Alp ADV bike simpler, drop a lot of the electronic nanny tech. Just give us a simpler real balanced ADV bike and keep the price more in line with something like the Tenere 700. Actually, I’d be really happy if Honda could offer the CB500X with their take on the Rally Raid upgrades. A couple more inches of suspension travel, wire spoke wheels, let us shut off the ABS, (at least the rear), that would about do it.
Base model just seems to be an offering without a home. Id also like the cbx500 to be their mid sized offering (maybe in 650/700 if they kept the weight low?)
@@Yutter89 Honda could easily squeeze a reliable 60 HP out of the CB500X motor. It is purposely kept at 47 HP to meet tiered licensing power requirements in some countries, such as the A2 license in Great Britain.
@@stephaniemusick171 while I understand the reasoning for the motorcycle leveling system, but still definitely find it the product of a nanny state that just causes a bigger annoyance than helps in these cases. My grumbling aside, I completely agree especially with the power output show by the 450L. A modern 500~650 should easily put out more than sufficient power for a light bike. Perhaps that maybe why they are being cautious to step in that direction. I do find the twin a bit too big for smaller riders like my wife (5'1) that would like to enjoy a similar DCT set up in a more compact option
I saw video the other day where a guy made the point that Honda does not want the AT to go the route of the Super Tenere, which apparently is not selling terribly well since they introduced the T7.
Thanks for very honest review....you have solved my problem..I will go for this bike also..I marked three bikes..one this one other was T7 third was gsa 1250..now I definitely go for this bike soon. Regards
An excellent review. I rode an XR250R, XL600R, & an NX650 all around Australia & have been toying with the idea of getting a bike but which one. You may have tipped me toward my heritage. Thanks👍👍
25:30 says a lot about the suspension the fact that you can talk normally while riding off-road! Great review impressive machine. Also, good job mounting cam to view the front suspension in action. 31:00 BMW GS sounds very impressive - too bad about the reliability issues.
First of all let me tell you that you are one of them must professionals person to help somebody who want to buy a bike, I wanted to buy a BMW GSA, but after your video which you have done for Africa twin my choice change and I buy AT DCT SE, thank you for your advice and your explication and your professionalism etc... etc.... I am French I live in Paris and if you plan to come in Paris I pay you a drink✌️
Hi, I really enjoy the casual, no nonsense approach of your reports. They're informative, interesting and without some of the over enthusiastic 'arm waving' of some of your fellow testers. I'm giving serious consideration to swapping my Crosstourer for a dct AT based entirely on your piece. Thanks and keep up the good work! Regards, Iain Corser
I would say, specially for an American that maybe never driven "stick" it would make great sense to start with DCT, learn all the other traits of driving a MC without having to worry about clutch and all that! When you have all the basics down, add the clutch! That is my thinking!
I Like the one stop shop with a longer video segment, I was able to eat about 5 chips 🍟 and drank allot of water before the TFT fired up. Yaa more information in one place, one video, right on.
This review was extremely valuable for me as a current shopper for a new 80/20 cross-country solo touring bike. You certainly opened my eyes to the possibility of DCT. I had previously disqualified that option due to my own "motor-memory need" for a clutch. However, having observed your demonstrations and discussion, I will seriously reconsider. You didn't mention how this bike fares in the drop test. However, I'll assume your drop test result for the previous model AT is still applicable. Thanks for all the help. Meanwhile, I'll get used to off-roading with my new KLR650 ABS, and then maybe trade it for the advanced-tech touring bike of my dreams. Thank you for the information.
Great review! I like everything about the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports, Except! I would like an option with Analog Speedometer and Tachometer, and push buttons instead of computer screen. Also, I would be fine with setting the suspension manually. The only high tech feature that I would like that no "Adventure Bike" has is an electronically adjustable wind shield.
Ian ….I immensely enjoyed your review of the Africa Twin Adventure. You covered all the necessary points. Love your channel…..keep up the brilliant work.
Excellent review, your the most comprehensive unbiased reviewer with tons of experience on so many bikes! Few BMW GS owners/reviewers would give the AF Adventure the high marks it deserves, both excellent bikes!
I have 17000 km on 2020 ATAS. Great discussion on the suspension fella! This is the instant game changer for me. Bike adapts to any road surface at the flick of a switch :-) I haven't met anyone with es yet, thanks for the review. Well done. I'd buy this bike all day long, every day! DCT rocks! Coming from a Z06 and Boss owner ehh 🇨🇦
@@BigRockMoto bought one in may this year, have ben thinking a lot about gs and tiger ,but finally decided on AT ES DCT, 15000 km down the road wouldn't change it for anything ales ,love the bike cant wait for next season as its snowing in my country now .
There are replacement springs with higher spring rate for heavier rider or load offered by touratech. They have options either for the standard suspension or the EERA I own the bike since April 2021 or 28.000km, the most relevant modification was to cut the windshield down and buy an aftermarket seat- every thing else is fine
Thanks. I'm fairly new to your channel. This was another great review. You are the only reviewer that goes into so much detail that I feel I can make a decision solely based on it. I never considered the AT or DCT but now I'll go and try it for sure.
Another great review. When I want to get the most info & the best practical opinion, I find myself returning to your reviews. The only thing I can't do on your reviews is ride the bike. This is by far the best review of this bike which, I am seriously considering. Thanks again, keep up the excellent work.
You nailed this review. The info got better and better as it went along. Took me several sit downs to finish (family life), but the content was so good I had to finish. Often times videos get stale or repetitive. This kept strong till the end. Congrats. I thought my old GSA was way too tall, wide, and heavy. You may have me convinced to get this with DCT. Hopefully this engine feels more alive than the first model (only one I have tried).
Excellent videos, super clear and informative....Just ordered my Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT today, you're pretty much the reason Honda got my order over the GS.....well done, keep it up. thanks again..
I really appreciate this review. I think you talked me into this over a V-Strom1050DE. A dealer near me has one with 15,500 miles still in good shape. It's a bit more than I was wanting to pay, but it sounds like I would be happy with an ES DCT.
Great review. I’m looking at one of these for sale in my area for 10k. Same color and everything. Seems like a great deal. Thanks for another great review. I’ve probably watched at least ten times!
I own an NC750D Integra S (2015), which is mostly the road-oriented brother of the X-ADV. As the other NC bikes, it utilizes the Dual Clutch Transmission. I must say that the DCT is really a game changer. People do not realize that you can intervene in any situation by using the paddles. They also havent thought that this is not just a mechanical system, it is a computer which is not in your head as you have also said but in most situations it would understand what you want to do. Finally the most important thing is that bikes with DCT have the ability to move extremely fast because the dual clutch system takes away the lost time of the one and only user-used clutch: The next or previous gear comes already loaded so the bike shift gears instantly!!!
Dimitris I fully agree with you. I have had my Integra for 4 years now and have 35000 kilometers on the clock. Once one is used to the awesomness of DCT you cannot go back to manual.
@@wernervivier1002 Thanks! The DCT could help the driver focus on his main activity which of course is Driving. It takes away the technicalities of riding so it also gives the driver another advantage: Enjoyment.
Having owned several dual sports up to 500cc’s & having covered thousands of double and single track including 1100 miles of the Oregon BDR on a KTM 450 EXC, I can’t imagine riding anything more than gravel roads on one of these beasts given their size, weight, and cost. And I’ve done that on my 350 scooter. That said they are wonderful all-rounder street bikes that do everything surprisingly well. Plus they look cool. This is coming from a 21 1250 GS owner. Like the new Q&A format
Your an enjoyable and knowledgable reviewer of Motorcycles to watch Ian ......know what you mean the grass looks greener on the other side then you mature but still the Motorcycle has been my most pleasing almost therapy life long i started riding in 1969 ,,,,yeah man every bike made scince then seems good to me and my passion has grown with age my son and grandsons love bikes.........im about to own my 1st adventire bike an Africa Twin 🍀
You're absolutely right in stating there's not much negative to say about this bike. I thought my 2014 super tenere was a good bike ( and it is!!), but hell yeah this africa twin puts an even bigger smile on my face each time I ride it.. the punch it has, the sound, the agility, the off-road capabilities.. i do have a T700 as well that i use for more rough off-road.. but I'm not afraid taking the AT offroad as well. I'm also a driving school instructor and i choose the clutch version instead of the dct because you have to demonstrate slipping clutch for the driving school exams.. yet i do have a quick shifter installed that perfectly works for up an down shifting.. some people ask me if i have the dct version because it shifts so smooth and sounds like shifting automatically... no it's me with the quick shifter working super. The only thing which bothers me on the Africa Twin is the front brakepads that make noise when you brake hard.. i have to demonstrate emergency braking and although having ran new brake pads in for more than 100km before doing emergency braking.. the first time i again demonstrate emergency braking as part of the driving school exams, the front brake pads keep making noise even when braking standard to a little hard braking during riding.. have been back to Honda 2x changing brake pads but that awful noise ( like old citroen cars 2cv do) keeps on getting back... tired of paying for new brake pads now.
Lovely review, im coming from the 850 GSA review, and Im pretty sure that I will get the Africa Twin instead of the GS, thank you for the well detailed review, simply loved it!
I have watched a bunch of reviews... I believe you have pushed me over the line. I see a 2022 DCT Africa Twin in my future. :) Thanks for your content. I feel like you do an excellent job of presenting both the good and the bad on the bikes you test. Thanks again.
Ian your review is a comprehensive review and extremely valuable. It's perfect the way it is. No need to cover the topic with more than 1 video. This review is exactly what I needed to finally make up my mind. I have been riding my Honda nc750 for 4 years and now it's time for an upgrade to an Adventure bike. Could not decide Africa Twin base model or Adventure Sport but I now I know. Thanx a million. Job well done Ian
Ian, thank you so much for all of your content and hard work. I've been between this Africa Twin ES and the Norden for a long while now. Finally found and pulled the trigger on this 2022 model AT ES. After much debate, decided the extra money for the Honda quality was worth it. Wanted to be able to jump on the bike and just go anywhere without any thought of the reliability. Please keep it up. Out of all the CCs out there, your opinion carries the most weight to me.
One thing you did not mention .. I love that it is just connecting the phone with android auto so I have exactly the same system as I have in my car on the screen .. Google maps, Spotify, Radio, handsfree phone, etc etc. Worth mentioning that one must have a bluetooth headset paired to make this work. You must also approve the phone as a secure connection so that you do not have to make the connection every time you use this system. The phone must also be connected with a cable. I have by the way never regretted buying 2020 ATES .. in tricolor of course :) beautiful bike. and feels like Christmas, New Year's Eve and birthday on all trips for me. Great and comprehensive review that should be so long to be able to say something in depth about this bike, and other bikes for that matter.
Since 2016 crf 1000 dct 2018 crf 1000 adas dct and 2020 crf 1100 adas es dct. I love this bike and never ever going back to Manuel gear. And by the way all are tri colors 😍👍🥰. Thanks for the Great review.
Great review! I have the same GSA as yours and also stared to thing more and more about switching from BMW to 2022 AT AS DCT… I think its great bike… the one thing I wish Honda could add is tire pressure monitoring system as we have in BMW… other than that its a great motorcycle and sounds very good.
I rode the full features AT today. Very impressive once I got used to the no clutch thing. Ride height was tall even for me, 6'2" but manageable. Plenty of torque and seems much faster than my old 750. Seat was not comfortable and an hour in the saddle seems like it could be painful. So, back to my bike and a 25 year gap in technology. Ride ON>>
Awesome review, Ian. Your channel is my default go-to if I want an honest and comprehensive bike review...from someone who can clearly handle an off-road bike. Thanks, and keep up the quality content. Much love from the UK.
I've been watching your videos for months, while at the same time going out and renting different ADV bikes to try and decide on what works for me. I think this one finally solved it. I need to try something with the DCT and then make that decision.
Great review. A lot of other reviews whine about the start up time and the complexity of the TFT, without talking about the benefits such as tunability of the riding modes plus the suspension. The ATAS DCT looks like great value. This looks like my next bike. Will wait for the availability of the lower windshield on the 2022 version though.
What to say: exactly what i think! Great Review. The DCT is the thing, the other brands just do not get it. Once you have had it, you'll never ever step back, it makes no sense, you can enjoy riding much more... on the other side: i never need more HP!
I’m thinking about buying the Honda NT1100 when/if it comes to the US. It has the Africa Twin engine and frame. Which is why I’m asking you this question about a sports touring Honda. Have you noticed problems with the engine case having shoddy casting? And if you have problems with your AT, is your Honda dealer responsive or do they try to avoid standing behind their product? I watched a You Tube by Andy Man Cam in Germany about the nightmares he is having with his new Honda CB1000, and how the dealers there want to blame him for the problems. I’ve had Honda motorcycles starting with my Honda Cub 50 in 1968, and Honda cars, and they have all been bullet proof with good dealer support when needed. You do a great job of assessing motorcycles and I trust your judgement. The NT1100 will likely be my last bike before my kids take the keys away from Me because I’m too old to ride. So I don’t want to buy a bunch of headaches. Thanks. Bill
Great review. When you review new Norden 901 you will have almost complete adventure bike overview. Great work. Much better review than traditional ones.
I own a 2020 Adv. Sports ES non DCT but with a quickshifter and i agree with most things you said in your review. Ive been thinking about getting a DCT version myself, it really makes you notice the landscape a lot more and also makes traffic much less annoying. I would switch to a 1250 GSA but the only thing keeping me at Honda (and im a bit sad you didnt mention it more) is the implementation of android auto. Having a digital screen is (IMO) not very useful if it only displays the speed and RPM but having your whole phone on there is SO great when touring... I can manage google maps easily, listen to spotify / audible, i can even take phone calls and get whatsapp messages read out loud. Its a feature that i really dont want to miss and is the only thing keeping me from switching away to BMW because ive heard their implementation with the BMW app is still very buggy. I hope they implement wireless android auto at some point, the only annoying thing is always having my phone connected via cable. One more thing: When anyone is switching from the 1000 to the 1100, please be aware that the sound took a big hit because of EURO5 emissions. The 1000 (2019) had the perfect stock exhaust sound for me but the 1100 seems a lot more neutered.
Excellent review and dig the long format with Chapters. Only thing to add is maybe a comment on accessories such as lights and such. As a GS owner it is really nice to be able to easily add Aux lights using a Hex Ezcan or Denali Cansmart. I believe prior to 2021 the Africa Twin didn’t have a Canbus system. Love your videos always rich in details and info. Keep it up!
My local dealer had a used Africa Twin in on trade I believe it was the first year model Red White Blue, definitely got my attention, I was looking for an XR650 or KLR im going up today to see if it is still available
Wow! This was the most informative, best review I've seen. Thank you, you have definitely taken the fear out of the buying experience for me, and answered questions I didn't know I had.
Excellent EXCELLENT review Sir. You make a compelling argument for the DCT model - but I am a die hard old school guy who just can't get away from the standard shift bikes. Even removed the Rekluse clutch off of the KTM after trying it out - it's just not for me. But, you are selling it to those who are on the fence. Well done!!!!!
Been ridig 57yrs and last 5yrs for a second bike a little I'm off to the store kinda ride. I have a Suzuki Burgman400. So full auto cvt. So my point love it. Got it to put on back of mtrhm. But it's great. So my point sold my primary big bike ultra classic. So now a AT DCT is in my plan.
Wow great review. I wasn’t even considering the dct until I heard you explain how it really works. Seems to be one of those things that people shun until they try it.
Ian, excellent review and fantastic channel! All of your bike reviews are well thought out and present exactly the right type of information anyone would need when considering these bikes. It's always good to hear from someone who has ridden many of these new bikes, as a lot of us have not had the opportunity or experience to be able to accurately compare. Thanks for the work you put in to keep us informed, much appreciated!
Long format is fine with jumpmarks like you did. You improved quite a bit in your style. Good offroad riding, too - not too crazy, but harder than I'd dare to.
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This video is long because it contains all the riding segments and also the audience Q&A. Are you OK with the longer format with chapters - or do you prefer me to break reviews into a few shorter videos? My thinking is it's easier to find everything in one video. Thoughts?
I prefer longer format videos, generally when a short 'review' or whatever video from anyone shows on my subscriptions or recommendations I tend not to bother.
You are really putting some hours in on editing and rendering and publishing these videos. Thanks.
I love this review format. It goes into depth and all the questions I wanted to know or didn't think to ask about the bike as a serious purchase option. I appreciate the effort in editing and flow as well! It's long but I'm glued to it and haven't skipped even a little. Maybe not meant for someone who's just browsing.
I like the long format with the chapters in. I have an 18 dct which I like off-road, and an upgrade to the 1100 sport would give me all the things I don’t have, ES, cruise, heated grips. It is fast enough on the road solo but two up touring I find the power low for overtakes. Do you think the 1100 has enough of an increase? Love the channel!
Please continue with this excellent long-form documentary format.
Ignore my last message as you answered my question in the video!
Thanks very much and keep up the good work!
Cheers
I'm not even considering buying this bike as well as most of the bikes you test, but I watch and enjoy your reviews anyway.
Great video, i have recently bought the ATAS ES DCT 1100 from watching these reviews and i came to the conclusion that over all for adventure riding this WAS THE BIKE TO HAVE , without doubt , add to that Honda reliability, after market parts and ease of service and its game set and match Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport and i havent mentioned its huge fuel capacity ;)
FYI Anybody thinking about DCT , man just go for it you wont be sorry , its fantastic.
I have a 2017 DCT with only 3K miles on it. And I have to admit it's the best bike I ever owned without a doubt.
Have you owned a GS?
I was told by a veteran who has nerve damage in his left leg that the not having to shift is why he got it! big thumbs up! and a thumbs up to Ian on this review.
I just wanted to comment that this was the most comprehensive and accurate review of the Africa Twin Adventure Sports that I found on the internet, or anywhere for that matter. I picked up a 2021 this past week and love the bike. This review was one of the deciding reviews prior to picking up the bike. A few observations: I think they should name D mode “eco” or something and allow the sequence of D to S mode selectable by the user. So into S first for example. I find the DCT works best for me leaving it in S2 or S3 most of the time. I do love the DCT. I found low speed maneuvers easy (wow on the turning radius), but I understand the intimidation as it’s a constant speed turn where you can’t cut power with the clutch to stop, you’re more committed, but have the rear brake in case you need to stop. It’s just a bit different process. The clutch does have a sort of minor “slip” feel at low speed as well which helps. The menu system is fine. I was used to it and all it’s functions within a few hours (Honda makes a simulator too, check it out). The turn signal switch is not well placed and small imo. Car Play is nice to have (waze, tomtom go, Apple Maps, google maps, Gaia (gpx routes), Rever, OSM, etc) and a big factor for me personally (and DCT). I also was shocked that it felt the same weight wise as the Versys 650 I traded. Weight is very well managed. Another surprise was the handling. I had previously spent time with the 2016 DCT model and found it pretty sloppy on a twisty road. This ATAS in tour or urban firms up the suspension and it handles extremely well for a 21/18 wheeled bike. I was not expecting that. It nearly handles as well as the Versys (which is excellent) with the exception of side to side transition due to the wheel size. I’m very happy with it. I had looked at the Tiger 900/GS/KTM’s etc in the process of picking the AT. Deciding factors were the DCT, CarPlay and long range on low octane fuel. The Africa Twin seemed like the best balance for my needs (long range touring with gravel roads in the mix). Wheelie control is neat, kind of wheelie cheat mode, but pretty fun. I 100% agree on 100hp is just right, and this is a bit of Goldilocks in so many ways, power, range, low octane, features, DCT, CarPlay.
awesome, thanks for posting
I'll checked out your reviews for the first time, and you are head and shoulders above the rest. you discuss above average more clearly and fortunately less quickly than others, a great advantage for non-native speakers. This is really great and deserves a compliment. There are about 2 billion internet connections in this world, of which less than 300 million are at native English speakers. But keep an eye on it, because with some of the other reviews like Ducati… at the end of the review you speak faster and faster as if you have to catch the train.
I have a NC750X DCT and a R1250GS. If i where to buy the AT, i would definitely choose the DCT version. Honda's DCT bikes are great.
In addition to all that you have said, the looks of the bike is fantastic. I bought mine in August this year and have already done 8500kms. I love it. It is everything that you have said and more. Not having to worry about a clutch frees your mind to focus on other road matters on and off road. I overcome the time lag of the TFT by turning the ignition to on, pressing the start button, start the engine then putting on my gloves and helmet and by the time that is done the bike is ready to go. It has never been a issue. I bought it with the intention to cross the country and travel dirt roads. I also had my doubts but after the first hour on the bike I was sold.
Good for you George, lol. My start procedure is exactly the same :-) This bike is super comfortable for multiple week touring on all terrains. Have a great 2022 riding season ehh brother 🇨🇦 I was apprehensive on the DCT and ES but so thankful I bailed in. Honda awesome!
Ditto! 2600 miles on this exact model and I absolutely love it. I still have a few minutes in this video to go. Honda recommends oil changes at 8000 miles. I am considering going every 4000. An thoughts on this?
@@forestmotoadventures Oil is cheap my friend, never wrong to change early. I followed manual mostly, sometimes a bit earlier. Get the Mazinga in tank fuel filter, if you have the adventure sports weld shedding issue, as me and buds have. It's the true resolve! Air filters are pain to change but do in my shop to make it easier. Otherwise a great bike and adventure ride offroad or tarmac :-)
the more I rode it, the more I fell in love
@@BigRockMoto I call mine "Mental therapy" lol :-)
I’ve got a 2021 ATAS and absolutely love it. Feels like a klr on steroids. I’ve ridden GSA 850, gsa1200/1250. 850 is nice, the larger bikes are simply too big for me. I will go places I’d never take a big GSA. I’m getting about 475 kms / tank.
How is the comfort all day? Stock seat? Thanks!
@@JohnDoe-ks4id have not done a long trip yet, only 3000kms on it, but thinking it might be too hard, but might break in yet.
@@JohnDoe-ks4id I've got the 2021 dct ES Adv Sport with stock seat. after a number of 300 and 400 mile-plus day trips, it's quite comfortable. i love it and will be heading x-country in the spring. no question!
Thanks for the great information! Ride safe!
@@JohnDoe-ks4id I have a 2020 Adventure sports and at first glance, the seat was a little bit hard. Now I have nearly 40,000kms on it and I have installed gel inside the OEM seat and it's perfect!. I can ride 1000km at a day with no extra tireness. Combine that with some Pivot pegz and you ride like a king!...Very comfortable
Danke!
thanks!
Ian thanks for this fantastic review. You're doing a great job, this channel and Fortnine are the best bike channels on YT at the moment. Thanks for all the hard work, you deserve more subscribers. That being said I have a hard time understanding why BMW is not offering an automatic yet, I hope they will look at this bike and decide to up their game.
Wow, thanks!
2-3mph u-turn in the dirt! Some great skills there, certainly proves that the low speed stuff with a DCT is doable. Thanks for the great content
Thanks 👍
I hear alot of questions about ES and DCT. After 17000 km on my 2020 ATASes I wouldn't buy it without es! Simple flick of switch you have a competent and inspiring ride in dirt, or added weight, or stiff compliant road bike. Biggest surprise for me! DCT makes riding easier and better all around journey bike. When I upgrade in a couple years, both of these features will be on my bike if still available. :-) Well done Honda!!!!
I had a 2017 AT DCT - bought her new and once i changed the rubber to more aggressive tread, armored up, etc., loved it for touring around in the dirt and riding class 6 (and worse) roads/trails. By no means a dirt bike, but absolutely rideable off road.
I bought the 1100 this summer after a bit of a wait on it's arrival....got the AS ES, manual clutch...changed out the rubber, armored up, etc and was expecting to be able to ride the same trails, the same way. NO SIR.
There are Things I like and things I don't like...long story short, my bicep tendon repair surgery is tomorrow....this thing is HEAVY.
the new bike is considerably lighter than the 2017.
@@512mbflashdrive once you've filled the tank, the 2021 as, es std weighs about 8# more than the 2017 dct...comparable. 2017 was heavy too!
@@rickhavingfun the engine is lighter, the swingarm is lighter, exhaust is lighter, the frame is lighter. multiple moving parts were lightened. the balance of the bike was changed significantly because of how things were moved and that is probably what you perceive. side by side the new model can have all 3 propylene cases and a tank bag before matching the weight of the old one. good luck recovering.
@@512mbflashdrive ....i just pulled the specs for the 2017 dct and 2021 as, es std from the web....maybe sources were wrong. surgery was tuesday...so far its a drag and i just hope it doesnt ruin snowmobile season.
TRed this today. Long TR of 25 kms.
I could definitely feel the bump in power. Super torquey engine will throw you off if you aren’t paying attention. The handlebar is 5 cm wider than my VStrom and I appreciated that. The dash is self-correcting for ambient light. I liked that too.
But other than these details I was finding it hard to find merit in the bike. Refinement levels were quite pedestrian. There were squeaks in the shocks and rattles from the panels that definitely feel less premium.
The staff told me that they took the bike to the local bike week and really beat it up. They said that it will feel better after service. But that said, their bike was only 5k kms old and it left me wondering if I would have to work hard to maintain it after purchase.
This is the issue with bikes like the VStrom. They spoil you thoroughly and make you hard pressed to feel impressed with other offerings. After the TR, I rode my VStrom home and could feel nothing but admiration for its absolutely buttery engine. After 11k kms, there are no rattles or squeaks or creaks. No nothing. Just fuss-free performance.
Matter of fact, I remember TRing the Tiger 900s in 2020 and walking away feeling not very blown away even then.
Coming back to the AT, the engine is definitely not tractable and will kick and lug even if you are in 4th gear at 35 kmph. Not in the Ninja 1000 league for sure. That bike was in 6th at 35 kmph and made zero protest. But maybe that’s an unfair comparison. An Adv with a twin will never be as tractable as a triple or an I4 I suppose.
I love the fact u took the time to get comfortable with the controls. I usually turn the key on the bike before I climb in it. Even when I don't, you don't have to wait for the dash to boot to start riding. You start the bike and go just like on the T7.
This review is why I decided to go with the 2021 DCT Africa twin. I just passed 300 miles and love it. Big switchology change from BMW but I will learn. Have not spent many miles out of sport III and it shifts exactly where I would.
Hey Gerald, it's been around a year since your comment and I'm curious to know how's it been so far with your AT, if you'd like to share :)
@@PerspectiveBeyond absolutely love my 21 Africa Twin. 6,500 miles in ine year as a second bike. I am surrounded by Daniel Boone National Forest so I have loads of trails & forest roads but no problem on the interstate at 85pmh. No drifting or floating about as on my KTM 640. Grant it, I spent 350 miles on the BMW yesterday but no wooded, shaded, isolated trails. I love the DCT, stopped a couple times yesterday to notice I forgot to downshift the beemer. Nobody complains about DCT once they understand how to use brakes to keep it loaded - ready for log jumps, etc. I can typically idle around at 3pmh or slower. Love my Honda
I wish there was an option to see how many times I’ve watched this video. Does not matter.
Pulled the trigger today and put a down payment for Africa Twin AS ES DCT tricolor MY22. Should arrive mid April. You made the decision way easier for me. Thank you so much.
congrats and thanks
Geography and terrain is a major factor when choosing an ADV bike. I’m in Australia and ride big distances on gravel/sandy/clay/rocky dirt roads in remote but fairly open and flat terrain. That’s why I have an Africa Twin. If I lived in Europe I’d probably get the BMW.
Thanks. I'm picking up my 2022 honda africa twin adventure sports dct tomorrow & can't wait!!!
How you like it?
Bought the 21 ATAS ES DCT as my first bike. Couldn't be happier. Being a newer rider the bike has enough power to put you on your ass if you try, but not something to be worried about day to day as long as you have a little common sense.
I find my favorite feature being the Android Auto and Apple CarPlay built into the TFT display. Being able to plan a route on your phone, then just plug it into your bike an it shows up on the screen is a huge benefit. No need for an external GPS.
I'm 6'5" and around 170lbs. I find the Windshield is the perfect height for me but could be a little wider. What impressed me the most is how well the electronic suspension works. I set User 1 as a super comfortable touring mode with the softest suspension and lower power. And I set User 2 as my ADV squid mode with the most power and the most firm suspension. Going in between the two is like night and day. Like you said, one second you're riding on a cloud, the next you feel every little bump in the road.
In conclusion, great review, I agree with all of the points you made. I highly recommend anyone looking at an africa twin to pull the trigger and get one, I don't think you'd regret it.
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Ride Safe 👊😎
hiii, Do u have any problems with the Knees? I read about some tall riders who complain that the wide Tank presses on the knees...(I'm 6'5" too) however I hope to try the bike as soon as possible
The AT AS looks soooo huge with you sitting on a small chair in front of it. On the other side: seeing yout climbing this mountain of a bike seem not such a big problem. Well done, Honda. I'd love to own one in tri-color with full specs like this one.
Apropos well done: keep on going with this long in-depth reviews! They're informative and very nice to see with all that camera stuff goin on. And of course enjoying your enthusiasm for doing this!
Great review.
Can’t wait for your review of Norden 901 and New Tiger 1200.
Real reviews without manufacturers pressing their agenda
Kudos to you for this review, I think it's the most comprehensive one on youtube for the AS ES DCT. I own this bike and I love it. You hit on one of my two dislikes - standing and griping the tank with your knees feels very awkward and not something you can do for long. My second dislike is the seat, after an hour I find myself getting a pain in my ass. Nothing I can do about the first issue, a Corbin seat solved the second.
I agree Dermot, this is a great review. I went another route with the seat. Went on a 6000 km tour, and my ass broke into the seat, lol, ha ha. Seems fine now, unsure of chiropractor thoughts though, ha ha. Great bike hey! :-)
I have that bike but manual it’s been tailored to suit me, seat screen handlebars etc and I find the bike more fun than my old 2015 R1200GS adventure, never been off-road with it. It’s simply fantastic.
I actually prefer longer reviews like this that covers everything about a motorcycle so this video is perfect!
Here in mid-Atlantic, long format great for cold, grey winter days. Summertime, not so much. I lived in Cali for awhile. I've considered watching your Death Valley video while sitting on my bike in the basement. Alas. You do excellent production. Thanks!
What an awesome review!
Thank you Ian for your professionalism and honesty!
Not too many people spend $30K on the TOP Adv bike and just a few months later test a bike which they overall learn they prefer over their own 👍
Can’t wait to hear your take on the Norden
Cheers 🍻
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Dude you did an exceptional job with this video. Extremely detailed with great commentary. I’ve been searching for a good video that explained this bike in detail and a comparison to the Adventure model. I’ve gained quiet a bit of value from listening to you! Thank you very much!!
A wonderfully thorough review. So well done. Many of us wont get to try out all of these bikes yet watching this is a great way to experience things through you!
Thanks Ian for a detailed review. I took your advice along with a few others' and put a deposit on a 2022 Red, White, and Blue ESDCT. I'm upgrading from a DR650 which I will miss, but my riding is more street oriented than I expected it to be. I like being out long distances, sightseeing, and visiting Historic locations, and catching some dirt when possible. Being older, 57, I think I will appreciate the DCT, particularly on long trips.
I may even start recording and posting videos, who knows!
Thanks Ian!!
Great review. I have a 2016 DCT. It took me about a year to fall in love with the DCT, but I can't imagine riding without it now. All the electronics don't tempt me to upgrade to a newer bike. I plan to put a lot of miles on in the next few years touring and doing some off-road. If you ever want to just talk about tires, I'd appreciate watching.
As always, this was a great initial review. I think the AT ES Adventure does offer a good value for a high end, fully loaded street oriented ADV tourer. I think Honda should just carry on with the AT as a tourer, they should probably just drop the base model. The AT can compete with the big ADV tourers from BMW, Triumph, Ducati, etc. They need to follow through with a Trans Alp mid displacement much more off road oriented much lighter weight real ADV bike to replace the base AT. I hope they can keep a Trans Alp ADV bike simpler, drop a lot of the electronic nanny tech. Just give us a simpler real balanced ADV bike and keep the price more in line with something like the Tenere 700. Actually, I’d be really happy if Honda could offer the CB500X with their take on the Rally Raid upgrades. A couple more inches of suspension travel, wire spoke wheels, let us shut off the ABS, (at least the rear), that would about do it.
I totally agree
Base model just seems to be an offering without a home. Id also like the cbx500 to be their mid sized offering (maybe in 650/700 if they kept the weight low?)
@@Yutter89 Honda could easily squeeze a reliable 60 HP out of the CB500X motor. It is purposely kept at 47 HP to meet tiered licensing power requirements in some countries, such as the A2 license in Great Britain.
@@stephaniemusick171 while I understand the reasoning for the motorcycle leveling system, but still definitely find it the product of a nanny state that just causes a bigger annoyance than helps in these cases. My grumbling aside, I completely agree especially with the power output show by the 450L. A modern 500~650 should easily put out more than sufficient power for a light bike. Perhaps that maybe why they are being cautious to step in that direction. I do find the twin a bit too big for smaller riders like my wife (5'1) that would like to enjoy a similar DCT set up in a more compact option
I saw video the other day where a guy made the point that Honda does not want the AT to go the route of the Super Tenere, which apparently is not selling terribly well since they introduced the T7.
Thanks for very honest review....you have solved my problem..I will go for this bike also..I marked three bikes..one this one other was T7 third was gsa 1250..now I definitely go for this bike soon. Regards
I received my Africa twin 1100 el susp dct in black mat 13 of may 2022!!!Awesome bike
An excellent review. I rode an XR250R, XL600R, & an NX650 all around Australia & have been toying with the idea of getting a bike but which one. You may have tipped me toward my heritage. Thanks👍👍
25:30 says a lot about the suspension the fact that you can talk normally while riding off-road! Great review impressive machine. Also, good job mounting cam to view the front suspension in action. 31:00 BMW GS sounds very impressive - too bad about the reliability issues.
First of all let me tell you that you are one of them must professionals person to help somebody who want to buy a bike, I wanted to buy a BMW GSA, but after your video which you have done for Africa twin my choice change and I buy AT DCT SE, thank you for your advice and your explication and your professionalism etc... etc.... I am French I live in Paris and if you plan to come in Paris I pay you a drink✌️
Hi, I really enjoy the casual, no nonsense approach of your reports. They're informative, interesting and without some of the over enthusiastic 'arm waving' of some of your fellow testers. I'm giving serious consideration to swapping my Crosstourer for a dct AT based entirely on your piece. Thanks and keep up the good work! Regards, Iain Corser
I would say, specially for an American that maybe never driven "stick" it would make great sense to start with DCT, learn all the other traits of driving a MC without having to worry about clutch and all that! When you have all the basics down, add the clutch!
That is my thinking!
I Like the one stop shop with a longer video segment, I was able to eat about 5 chips 🍟 and drank allot of water before the TFT fired up. Yaa more information in one place, one video, right on.
This review was extremely valuable for me as a current shopper for a new 80/20 cross-country solo touring bike. You certainly opened my eyes to the possibility of DCT. I had previously disqualified that option due to my own "motor-memory need" for a clutch. However, having observed your demonstrations and discussion, I will seriously reconsider. You didn't mention how this bike fares in the drop test. However, I'll assume your drop test result for the previous model AT is still applicable. Thanks for all the help. Meanwhile, I'll get used to off-roading with my new KLR650 ABS, and then maybe trade it for the advanced-tech touring bike of my dreams. Thank you for the information.
I started on dirt bikes, moved on to the KLR, and then the Africa Twin. I love them both
Great review!
I like everything about the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports,
Except!
I would like an option with Analog Speedometer and Tachometer, and push buttons instead of computer screen. Also, I would be fine with setting the suspension manually.
The only high tech feature that I would like that no "Adventure Bike" has is an electronically adjustable wind shield.
Most comprehensive africa twin review ever
thanks!
Ian ….I immensely enjoyed your review of the Africa Twin Adventure. You covered all the necessary points. Love your channel…..keep up the brilliant work.
thanks
I bought the 1100 base model DCT, fantastic bike,
Excellent review, your the most comprehensive unbiased reviewer with tons of experience on so many bikes! Few BMW GS owners/reviewers would give the AF Adventure the high marks it deserves, both excellent bikes!
Much appreciated!
I have 17000 km on 2020 ATAS. Great discussion on the suspension fella! This is the instant game changer for me. Bike adapts to any road surface at the flick of a switch :-) I haven't met anyone with es yet, thanks for the review. Well done. I'd buy this bike all day long, every day! DCT rocks! Coming from a Z06 and Boss owner ehh 🇨🇦
Couldn't agree more!
@@BigRockMoto bought one in may this year, have ben thinking a lot about gs and tiger ,but finally decided on AT ES DCT, 15000 km down the road wouldn't change it for anything ales ,love the bike cant wait for next season as its snowing in my country now .
You are speaking for the world.
How super easy to listen.
Thank you so much.
There are replacement springs with higher spring rate for heavier rider or load offered by touratech. They have options either for the standard suspension or the EERA
I own the bike since April 2021 or 28.000km, the most relevant modification was to cut the windshield down and buy an aftermarket seat- every thing else is fine
Thanks. I'm fairly new to your channel. This was another great review. You are the only reviewer that goes into so much detail that I feel I can make a decision solely based on it. I never considered the AT or DCT but now I'll go and try it for sure.
Another great review.
When I want to get the most info & the best practical opinion, I find myself returning to your reviews.
The only thing I can't do on your reviews is ride the bike.
This is by far the best review of this bike which, I am seriously considering.
Thanks again, keep up the excellent work.
thanks!
You nailed this review. The info got better and better as it went along. Took me several sit downs to finish (family life), but the content was so good I had to finish. Often times videos get stale or repetitive. This kept strong till the end. Congrats. I thought my old GSA was way too tall, wide, and heavy. You may have me convinced to get this with DCT. Hopefully this engine feels more alive than the first model (only one I have tried).
Excellent videos, super clear and informative....Just ordered my Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT today, you're pretty much the reason Honda got my order over the GS.....well done, keep it up. thanks again..
Great in depth review. I really like where Honda has gone with this top model really takes a bite out of the gs1250 market.
I really appreciate this review. I think you talked me into this over a V-Strom1050DE. A dealer near me has one with 15,500 miles still in good shape. It's a bit more than I was wanting to pay, but it sounds like I would be happy with an ES DCT.
Having owned the manual if I could do it again I would go with the dct , it’s just better , and when cruising it’s way more relaxing 😌
Great review. I’m looking at one of these for sale in my area for 10k. Same color and everything. Seems like a great deal. Thanks for another great review. I’ve probably watched at least ten times!
I own an NC750D Integra S (2015), which is mostly the road-oriented brother of the X-ADV. As the other NC bikes, it utilizes the Dual Clutch Transmission. I must say that the DCT is really a game changer. People do not realize that you can intervene in any situation by using the paddles. They also havent thought that this is not just a mechanical system, it is a computer which is not in your head as you have also said but in most situations it would understand what you want to do. Finally the most important thing is that bikes with DCT have the ability to move extremely fast because the dual clutch system takes away the lost time of the one and only user-used clutch: The next or previous gear comes already loaded so the bike shift gears instantly!!!
Dimitris I fully agree with you. I have had my Integra for 4 years now and have 35000 kilometers on the clock. Once one is used to the awesomness of DCT you cannot go back to manual.
@@wernervivier1002 Thanks! The DCT could help the driver focus on his main activity which of course is Driving. It takes away the technicalities of riding so it also gives the driver another advantage: Enjoyment.
Having owned several dual sports up to 500cc’s & having covered thousands of double and single track including 1100 miles of the Oregon BDR on a KTM 450 EXC, I can’t imagine riding anything more than gravel roads on one of these beasts given their size, weight, and cost. And I’ve done that on my 350 scooter. That said they are wonderful all-rounder street bikes that do everything surprisingly well. Plus they look cool. This is coming from a 21 1250 GS owner. Like the new Q&A format
2nd time watched, 17 AT owner. Very good review, just missed that no centerstand included, which it should come with standard for a loaded bike!
Just when i think ive nailed down the perfect bike for me and i watch another one of your vids and my mind changes yet again😅
Your an enjoyable and knowledgable reviewer of Motorcycles to watch Ian ......know what you mean the grass looks greener on the other side then you mature but still the Motorcycle has been my most pleasing almost therapy life long i started riding in 1969 ,,,,yeah man every bike made scince then seems good to me and my passion has grown with age my son and grandsons love bikes.........im about to own my 1st adventire bike an Africa Twin 🍀
You're absolutely right in stating there's not much negative to say about this bike. I thought my 2014 super tenere was a good bike ( and it is!!), but hell yeah this africa twin puts an even bigger smile on my face each time I ride it.. the punch it has, the sound, the agility, the off-road capabilities.. i do have a T700 as well that i use for more rough off-road.. but I'm not afraid taking the AT offroad as well.
I'm also a driving school instructor and i choose the clutch version instead of the dct because you have to demonstrate slipping clutch for the driving school exams.. yet i do have a quick shifter installed that perfectly works for up an down shifting.. some people ask me if i have the dct version because it shifts so smooth and sounds like shifting automatically... no it's me with the quick shifter working super.
The only thing which bothers me on the Africa Twin is the front brakepads that make noise when you brake hard.. i have to demonstrate emergency braking and although having ran new brake pads in for more than 100km before doing emergency braking.. the first time i again demonstrate emergency braking as part of the driving school exams, the front brake pads keep making noise even when braking standard to a little hard braking during riding.. have been back to Honda 2x changing brake pads but that awful noise ( like old citroen cars 2cv do) keeps on getting back... tired of paying for new brake pads now.
Lovely review, im coming from the 850 GSA review, and Im pretty sure that I will get the Africa Twin instead of the GS, thank you for the well detailed review, simply loved it!
The best review on TH-cam for the Africa Twin by far!
I have watched a bunch of reviews... I believe you have pushed me over the line. I see a 2022 DCT Africa Twin in my future. :) Thanks for your content. I feel like you do an excellent job of presenting both the good and the bad on the bikes you test. Thanks again.
Ian your review is a comprehensive review and extremely valuable. It's perfect the way it is. No need to cover the topic with more than 1 video. This review is exactly what I needed to finally make up my mind. I have been riding my Honda nc750 for 4 years and now it's time for an upgrade to an Adventure bike. Could not decide Africa Twin base model or Adventure Sport but I now I know. Thanx a million. Job well done Ian
thanks for the feedback
Ian, thank you so much for all of your content and hard work. I've been between this Africa Twin ES and the Norden for a long while now. Finally found and pulled the trigger on this 2022 model AT ES. After much debate, decided the extra money for the Honda quality was worth it. Wanted to be able to jump on the bike and just go anywhere without any thought of the reliability. Please keep it up. Out of all the CCs out there, your opinion carries the most weight to me.
Thorough review, well done. Not sure I want DCT, but I must order a 1100 Adventure Sports!
Just like to say how much I appreciate your bike reviews, they are excellent along with the superb video quality. regards from the UK.
Another great review! Unbiased and honest. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I appreciate hearing reviews from a real rider. Always insightful, always on point. Keep it up!!
One thing you did not mention .. I love that it is just connecting the phone with android auto so I have exactly the same system as I have in my car on the screen .. Google maps, Spotify, Radio, handsfree phone, etc etc. Worth mentioning that one must have a bluetooth headset paired to make this work. You must also approve the phone as a secure connection so that you do not have to make the connection every time you use this system. The phone must also be connected with a cable. I have by the way never regretted buying 2020 ATES .. in tricolor of course :) beautiful bike. and feels like Christmas, New Year's Eve and birthday on all trips for me. Great and comprehensive review that should be so long to be able to say something in depth about this bike, and other bikes for that matter.
Since 2016 crf 1000 dct 2018 crf 1000 adas dct and 2020 crf 1100 adas es dct. I love this bike and never ever going back to Manuel gear. And by the way all are tri colors 😍👍🥰.
Thanks for the Great review.
Great review! I have the same GSA as yours and also stared to thing more and more about switching from BMW to 2022 AT AS DCT… I think its great bike… the one thing I wish Honda could add is tire pressure monitoring system as we have in BMW… other than that its a great motorcycle and sounds very good.
agreed
I rode the full features AT today. Very impressive once I got used to the no clutch thing. Ride height was tall even for me, 6'2" but manageable. Plenty of torque and seems much faster than my old 750. Seat was not comfortable and an hour in the saddle seems like it could be painful. So, back to my bike and a 25 year gap in technology. Ride ON>>
Awesome review, Ian. Your channel is my default go-to if I want an honest and comprehensive bike review...from someone who can clearly handle an off-road bike.
Thanks, and keep up the quality content. Much love from the UK.
I've been watching your videos for months, while at the same time going out and renting different ADV bikes to try and decide on what works for me. I think this one finally solved it. I need to try something with the DCT and then make that decision.
Great review. A lot of other reviews whine about the start up time and the complexity of the TFT, without talking about the benefits such as tunability of the riding modes plus the suspension. The ATAS DCT looks like great value. This looks like my next bike. Will wait for the availability of the lower windshield on the 2022 version though.
What to say: exactly what i think! Great Review. The DCT is the thing, the other brands just do not get it. Once you have had it, you'll never ever step back, it makes no sense, you can enjoy riding much more... on the other side: i never need more HP!
Picked up this exact same model 3 weeks ago and couldn’t be happier!
I’m thinking about buying the Honda NT1100 when/if it comes to the US. It has the Africa Twin engine and frame. Which is why I’m asking you this question about a sports touring Honda. Have you noticed problems with the engine case having shoddy casting? And if you have problems with your AT, is your Honda dealer responsive or do they try to avoid standing behind their product? I watched a You Tube by Andy Man Cam in Germany about the nightmares he is having with his new Honda CB1000, and how the dealers there want to blame him for the problems. I’ve had Honda motorcycles starting with my Honda Cub 50 in 1968, and Honda cars, and they have all been bullet proof with good dealer support when needed. You do a great job of assessing motorcycles and I trust your judgement. The NT1100 will likely be my last bike before my kids take the keys away from
Me because I’m too old to ride. So I don’t want to buy a bunch of headaches. Thanks. Bill
Best review in the world... thank you BIG ROCK MOTO !Regards from Bali, Indonesia...
Great review. When you review new Norden 901 you will have almost complete adventure bike overview. Great work. Much better review than traditional ones.
thanks
I own a 2020 Adv. Sports ES non DCT but with a quickshifter and i agree with most things you said in your review. Ive been thinking about getting a DCT version myself, it really makes you notice the landscape a lot more and also makes traffic much less annoying. I would switch to a 1250 GSA but the only thing keeping me at Honda (and im a bit sad you didnt mention it more) is the implementation of android auto. Having a digital screen is (IMO) not very useful if it only displays the speed and RPM but having your whole phone on there is SO great when touring... I can manage google maps easily, listen to spotify / audible, i can even take phone calls and get whatsapp messages read out loud. Its a feature that i really dont want to miss and is the only thing keeping me from switching away to BMW because ive heard their implementation with the BMW app is still very buggy.
I hope they implement wireless android auto at some point, the only annoying thing is always having my phone connected via cable.
One more thing: When anyone is switching from the 1000 to the 1100, please be aware that the sound took a big hit because of EURO5 emissions. The 1000 (2019) had the perfect stock exhaust sound for me but the 1100 seems a lot more neutered.
good points
This was an excellent review, definitely opened my perspective to the newer AT models. Cheers
Excellent review and dig the long format with Chapters. Only thing to add is maybe a comment on accessories such as lights and such. As a GS owner it is really nice to be able to easily add Aux lights using a Hex Ezcan or Denali Cansmart. I believe prior to 2021 the Africa Twin didn’t have a Canbus system.
Love your videos always rich in details and info. Keep it up!
My local dealer had a used Africa Twin in on trade I believe it was the first year model Red White Blue, definitely got my attention, I was looking for an XR650 or KLR im going up today to see if it is still available
Wow! This was the most informative, best review I've seen. Thank you, you have definitely taken the fear out of the buying experience for me, and answered questions I didn't know I had.
Excellent EXCELLENT review Sir.
You make a compelling argument for the DCT model - but I am a die hard old school guy who just can't get away from the standard shift bikes. Even removed the Rekluse clutch off of the KTM after trying it out - it's just not for me. But, you are selling it to those who are on the fence. Well done!!!!!
now we waiting for new tiger 1200.
Been ridig 57yrs and last 5yrs for a second bike a little I'm off to the store kinda ride. I have a Suzuki Burgman400. So full auto cvt. So my point love it. Got it to put on back of mtrhm. But it's great. So my point sold my primary big bike ultra classic. So now a AT DCT is in my plan.
Wow great review. I wasn’t even considering the dct until I heard you explain how it really works. Seems to be one of those things that people shun until they try it.
That was a pretty good explanation of the differences between a DCT and the other bikes in the wild.
Ian, excellent review and fantastic channel! All of your bike reviews are well thought out and present exactly the right type of information anyone would need when considering these bikes. It's always good to hear from someone who has ridden many of these new bikes, as a lot of us have not had the opportunity or experience to be able to accurately compare. Thanks for the work you put in to keep us informed, much appreciated!
Thanks!
Long format is fine with jumpmarks like you did. You improved quite a bit in your style. Good offroad riding, too - not too crazy, but harder than I'd dare to.
Great thorough review! Thanks for all the work you put into making these videos. 👍