I had the misfortune of being in strangeways aged 17 or 18 in 1982.Got slapped off my feet for smiling when a screw was singing Dont laugh at me going through reception.Just a kid a horrible place got a cockroach in my food the screw said shut up they will all want one.Sounds funny I know but the screws where bullies back then or just totally indifferent.With the cons it was dog eat dog the weakest getting bullied exploited just a horrible miserable place.40 years older wiser and having never been convicted since yes I see it differently the screws had a thankless job and no one can understand how it feels to do their job unless they’ve done it been there and no doubt anyone would become hardened/indifferent dealing with that routine every day.Eventually the roof did go off with the strangeways prison riots it needed change but albeit I was not there I’m sorry for anyone from either side who got hurt.There is a simple solution to the problems of the prison environment and it’s this STAY AWAY DONT GO THERE .
Prison Governor: "you are not here to lock up and unlock prisoners". Prison Officer: "I'm here to lock up prisoners and if they don't like it...." Oops.
10:37 In the late 1970s there was a good deal of controversy centring around the high level of National Front membership amongst prison officers at Strangeways. The NF's chief organizer at the prison was Brian Baldwin. Interesting that no mention is made of this in the documentary.
I reported on the NF for the Labour Deputy Leader Eric Heffer and attended NF meetings one of which was organised by Brian Baldwin and it had David Duke as the speaker he was at the time the Grand Wizard of The Klu Klux Klan. My next book tells this strange but true story. JOHN
Aye the screws were utter scumbags them days. All ex military, no brains, narrow minded, black or white thinking. Being military all they knew to do was follow the rules no matter what, do what the ranking officer says even to the detriment, it's no way to manage hundreds of diverse cons. To them all the cons were dirt and their attitude was my way or no way, zero compromise or listening to prisoners complaints. Obviously this approach resulted in high discontent, violence and riots, with a high rate of reoffending. Luckily they are much better these days, they come from all walks of life and all have different styles and viewpoints. Having female screws made a big difference too, it's important to have a motherly/feminine presence.
Ever thought about not getting nicked (shit life choices ) The csrews you mentioned served their country in the Army that you slag off - you served time for it -well done 🙄😒@Gecko....
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain I served 11 years in the forces, including 28 days in militarily prison, when I was 18, for disobeying an order. I was never once beaten up or assaulted in all these years. It was the same year as this programme, which I remember watching. It taught me a lesson in life. If you can't do the time, dont do the crime.
A good thing too I'd say: the army must surely help develop a wide range of skills and characteristics, which would be essential for interacting with prisoners. Probably why ex-military folks make good teachers.
£8-11k a year. Doesn't sound a lot, does it? However, my parents bought a lovely big, victorian 4 bedroom house in the early '80s for around £17k. In 2021 the average house would be 10+ times the annual salary of a prison officer. We've all be screwed by the system, not just prisoners.
Lol.......I’m an ex squadie......did that job for 14yrs......I could bang on for hours about it........it’s a fucking joke in this day & age......glad I jacked it in!
John Sutton is on the real porridge podcast talking about his time in strangways interesting bloke who challenged the status quo and got kicked out of the the prison officers association for it, check it out
*According to the bank of England, £8000 in 1980 is now £35,082.29p in 2021 (Inflation averaged 3.8% a year) and £10000 in 1980 is now £43,852.86in 2021 (Inflation averaged 3.8% a year)* 😲
@Flogging_the _Cargo sorry sir. I dont understand a word your saying, old chap. Perhaps when you've finished with the dictionary you've swallowed, you could lend it to me. Totally spiffing of you old bean.
@@DaysOfDarknessUK And with all the unnecessary mood muzak in the background in modern rubbish. Some stuff even has background music all the way through now.
POA bosses at Strangeways were also leaders of the north west National Front who had guest speakers from the American Democrat run KKK at their meetings. Got to love these leftist unions 😅
You've no idea what you're saying . A union is a left wing idea with left wing principles. The national front and KKK are extreme right wing group with extreme right wing principles: the fact the POA officers were members of them is purely to do with the fact they personally harbour the same views and are likely ex-military therefore cannot understand and abhor anyone who will not obey rules and the law. If you cannot see those basic facts then you should not be allowed the vote.
Same hear and ayoung lad try n hang him self from top tier at winson green in 2005 n the prisoners were the ones holding him up n getting the bed sheet from his neck whill it took the screws 10min 2 even help 🤮
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain what is deserved is up to a Judge. If you leave it up to screws, next move is mob "justice" on the street, easier to allege something than pay a debt....
For anyone whos interested. John sutton has an autobiography and a TH-cam channel with some very enlightening stories of his time working for the prison service
The Woolf report after the riot stated that in future prison officers uniforms should be less militaristic. Peaked caps should be phased out, and until this happens, the practice of wearing the peak 'slashed' should be discontinued.
1:21 dam man the Screws were alot older back heir in the 80's n so on.. crazy eh.. this jail looks exactly like the maxo ones we have heir in Nsw #pmsl ..!
My father god rest him spend many yrs there from 71 to 83 he said the prison was rought an he said theres going 2b the biggist roit in history he was down the block on D1 a few times...
Just leave us alone this guy frightens me in a democracy like uk we dont just leave the forces of law and order alone that attitude belongs in totalitarian societies where human rights are non existant the good poeple of uk fought and won a brutal war precicely so that those who uphold the law are not just left alone being constantly scrutinised and watched closley goes with the job thats the price of freedom for us all
That governor with the big glasses appears to have half the tops of his ears missing, was some geezer called Norman Brown I believe. Was he some survivor of a tank attack or fire during WWII or something?..
I like the cut of johns cloth, i was a union man for years, and i challenged the management at every turn, and just like on here, they dont like it. I loved fighting what was right not what was wrong.
At 07:40, he almost seems like a character from a comedy show or something. Can you imagine being like that at the age of 9 or 15? I've never heard anyone of his age speaking like that before.. The thing is that he doesn't look that old, maybe 30??
The Woolf report after the riot stated that in future prison officers uniforms should be less militaristic. Peaked caps should be phased out, and until this happens, the practice of wearing the peak 'slashed' should be discontinued.
I wanted to be a prison officer but they said no so I asked him why and they said it's because your parents were married when they had me 😂😂😅😅😅 can't beat the old jokes
I like how some of the ex Military slash their peaks (pushing the peak of the service cap back into the hat thus reducing its overhanging size). This enables the hat to fit squarely on the head in a good parade manner.
The new government had good intentions. Getting to no prisoners by there name .talking to them .some a these government. Live on a diff planet than prisoners .
Not many people getting sugar and water thrown into their face back in the 80's though , theres always violence in prisons but there was nothing then like there is these days , anyone who goes to prison is a mug , holiday camp or not.
Alot of prisoners are insidious, undisciplined, rebellious and aggressive. This in turn makes the staff retaliate. Aggression breeds aggression. Some of the prisoners play the ‘victim card’. They initiate aggression and blame the staff for aggravated behaviour.
y1000 if they are the victims, they have every right to. I don't imagine being a prison officer is an easy job, certainly not a job id want. The only difference between the inmates and officers on occasions are the uniform and the conviction
These old screws were propper,, when you look at the shower of shit we have now locking up our criminals thay aint worth a penny,,ive seen for my self the new breed of screws and trust thsy would never walk a mile in these old screws shoes,,, for one theres no respect for them, thay are so easily manipulated, and you can see the fear in there eyes,, some of them are ok,, but most of em come from the new training regimes,,you need people skills to gain the trust of prisoners,the new breed are like little children in there mind set,, petty and want to make a name for there selves,, old screws from back has far had the 60s to the late nineties were good old tuff but fair,wot you saw you got from them, thay earned their respect, and thay would give you respected iff you earned it,,
It's more an implicit code of silence. That they don't discuss all the cruel, bullying shit they got away with, as they didn't want an inquiry like what happened after 1990.
@@mistofoles ABH a drunken fight in my 20's...got 4 months spent 5 weeks in strangeways then was moved to kirkham for the rest of my sentence...never been back.
The screws in most prisons were bullies, Barlinnie prison screws just used to beat people up for nothing, but I guess times have changed now.....but who knows.....
National front members within the strange ways prison officer circles ,they wouldn't of wanted that ,drinking then going on duty and doing what they pleased when they pleased and getting away with it
Are you sure this is Manchester.? It’s sunny and no rain in sight. The weather has some strangeways especially in the dark gloomy atmosphere that is Manchester.
Eh?!? No female officers in the staff back then?? What about searching female partners and relatives when they visit; would the male staff have done that?
This is how it was years ago ..HELLO i would like to be a prison officer ,ok what have you done before i was in the army 12years ,i was a drill instuctur and a physycal training instuctur. ok when can you start monday if thats ok . .Now in the yaer 2021 i would like to be a prison person officer please . .Ok what have you done before .well i was at collage 2 years then i got 4 o levels .And i am 5ft 8 inch tall and i weigh 12 stone ..I live at home with my mum and dad and i have 2 rabbits .ok start tomorrow . Its might be a bit rough but you will be ok love ,if you are feeling threatand ,just fill a form in and have 6 months off . full pay dont let them prisoners shout at you . no sex either haver you got that .
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I had the misfortune of being in strangeways aged 17 or 18 in 1982.Got slapped off my feet for smiling when a screw was singing Dont laugh at me going through reception.Just a kid a horrible place got a cockroach in my food the screw said shut up they will all want one.Sounds funny I know but the screws where bullies back then or just totally indifferent.With the cons it was dog eat dog the weakest getting bullied exploited just a horrible miserable place.40 years older wiser and having never been convicted since yes I see it differently the screws had a thankless job and no one can understand how it feels to do their job unless they’ve done it been there and no doubt anyone would become hardened/indifferent dealing with that routine every day.Eventually the roof did go off with the strangeways prison riots it needed change but albeit I was not there I’m sorry for anyone from either side who got hurt.There is a simple solution to the problems of the prison environment and it’s this STAY AWAY DONT GO THERE .
Do you recognise any of the screws on this video? This was filmed at the end of 1979 I think.
how does it feel to be a victim ?
not nice is it.
STAY OUT OF TROUBLE LAD.
Good point it ain’t nice.@@buy.to.let.britain
Yes 2 of them I wasn’t there very long they will be long dead now or 90.@@ajs41
you are incredibly mature to self correct your errors. im glad you found another way to live than crime.@@edwardodonnell6857
Prison Governor: "you are not here to lock up and unlock prisoners".
Prison Officer: "I'm here to lock up prisoners and if they don't like it...."
Oops.
Go Mr Sutton "tales from the jails"
That is it yes that man is me JOHN
Hence tails
@@talesfromthejailsThat's you at 8:50?
Fair play to that one screw trying to make his working conditions better 4 him and the prisoners 👏👍
He's still around th-cam.com/video/SGZvk2V_Gn8/w-d-xo.html
I thinks his name is John Sutton he’s got a TH-cam channel called tales from the jails
WTF was that white collar doing listening in on blue collar union business anyway.Someone should have told him to fck off or join the management
10:37 In the late 1970s there was a good deal of controversy centring around the high level of National Front membership amongst prison officers at Strangeways. The NF's chief organizer at the prison was Brian Baldwin. Interesting that no mention is made of this in the documentary.
I reported on the NF for the Labour Deputy Leader Eric Heffer and attended NF meetings one of which was organised by Brian Baldwin and it had David Duke as the speaker he was at the time the Grand Wizard of The Klu Klux Klan. My next book tells this strange but true story. JOHN
Aye the screws were utter scumbags them days. All ex military, no brains, narrow minded, black or white thinking. Being military all they knew to do was follow the rules no matter what, do what the ranking officer says even to the detriment, it's no way to manage hundreds of diverse cons. To them all the cons were dirt and their attitude was my way or no way, zero compromise or listening to prisoners complaints. Obviously this approach resulted in high discontent, violence and riots, with a high rate of reoffending.
Luckily they are much better these days, they come from all walks of life and all have different styles and viewpoints. Having female screws made a big difference too, it's important to have a motherly/feminine presence.
Ever thought about not getting nicked (shit life choices ) The csrews you mentioned served their country in the Army that you slag off - you served time for it -well done 🙄😒@Gecko....
Back in the good old days where there was an abundance of prison officers and they had the power. Now the lunatics have taken over the asylum
A great series. I saw it when it was repeated in 1990. I think they only showed 6 of them then.
Back in those days, prison governors were ex military men, and not social workers.
Yes that’s why everyone was abused and beaten, just like there still doing in the forces today 👎
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain I served 11 years in the forces, including 28 days in militarily prison, when I was 18, for disobeying an order. I was never once beaten up or assaulted in all these years. It was the same year as this programme, which I remember watching.
It taught me a lesson in life. If you can't do the time, dont do the crime.
A good thing too I'd say: the army must surely help develop a wide range of skills and characteristics, which would be essential for interacting with prisoners. Probably why ex-military folks make good teachers.
@@DasTubemeister I watched it also, I can do the time and have, but I've never been mistreated by a screw. Cops on the other hand....
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain There's always someone like you sticking on an imaginary comment. Please go on a course on how to punctuate and how to spell. 😊
Free Palestine!!!
Sorry, wrong channel..
£8-11k a year. Doesn't sound a lot, does it? However, my parents bought a lovely big, victorian 4 bedroom house in the early '80s for around £17k. In 2021 the average house would be 10+ times the annual salary of a prison officer. We've all be screwed by the system, not just prisoners.
£11k in 1980 would be 48,238.15 today.
@@LewisCroden In 2021, I bet Prison Officers are paid just above minimum wage.
@@LewisCroden what's that compared to inflation and cost of living increases though?
@@jameshardy6277 I think they start on 23k.
17k are u sure!
Lol.......I’m an ex squadie......did that job for 14yrs......I could bang on for hours about it........it’s a fucking joke in this day & age......glad I jacked it in!
Only 14, I managed 30
Pair of snitches jog on
All ex screws say that..yet stay for yrs and yrs and yrs..
Cunt of a job
John Sutton was way ahead of his time and the establishment shut him down.That was so sad to watch.
He has a TH-cam channel
That man has balls...he likes a good sing song as well
Was that him at 8:50?
@@BennyMcGibbon No, 11:08 blue shirt, talking.
I wonder how many of these screws were at strangeways. In 1990 ? .
John Sutton is on the real porridge podcast talking about his time in strangways interesting bloke who challenged the status quo and got kicked out of the the prison officers association for it, check it out
th-cam.com/video/SGZvk2V_Gn8/w-d-xo.html Boom
PLEASE upload the remaining episodes of this series. I remember the poignant final episode was about Christmas inside. M
They look like GPO postmen from the 70s
Love the ash trays on the desk.
😂😂😂
Governor Brown trying to stitch a decent officer like John G Sutton up.
Yeh john cared about the inmates he was the only decent one
Was that a young Neil Warnock training the Mufty squad ??
*According to the bank of England, £8000 in 1980 is now £35,082.29p in 2021 (Inflation averaged 3.8% a year) and £10000 in 1980 is now £43,852.86in 2021 (Inflation averaged 3.8% a year)* 😲
Good work. They earned every penny.
House prices where that low that they would be rich now
5:02 Bob Ross from 'The Joy of Painting'.
We will make sure they behave themselves in here. Haha. Wheres your roof gone. Dont say you went warned.
🤣🤣
yawn
@@paulmcdonough1093 I hate it when people just put things like YAWN!!! What's that mean? Please tell.....
@Flogging_the _Cargo dares nish rong wid me punk u Ashon or spelin ya likel sausage. Dya feel me.
@Flogging_the _Cargo sorry sir. I dont understand a word your saying, old chap. Perhaps when you've finished with the dictionary you've swallowed, you could lend it to me. Totally spiffing of you old bean.
Bloddy pigeons flying about at 9.35 bloddy hell sets the tone really
The MUFTI instructor comes across as a fine fellow.
Quality documentaries like these, show how bad, & dumbed down today's documentaries are.
@@DaysOfDarknessUK And with all the unnecessary mood muzak in the background in modern rubbish. Some stuff even has background music all the way through now.
It would be Stacey Dooley walking around the prisons interjecting on everything with her banal opinions.
I miss the old style British documentaries like this although some of them from back in the day were horrifying.
@@theoracle7148 Spot on!
Muff Training?
POA bosses at Strangeways were also leaders of the north west National Front who had guest speakers from the American Democrat run KKK at their meetings. Got to love these leftist unions 😅
You've no idea what you're saying . A union is a left wing idea with left wing principles. The national front and KKK are extreme right wing group with extreme right wing principles: the fact the POA officers were members of them is purely to do with the fact they personally harbour the same views and are likely ex-military therefore cannot understand and abhor anyone who will not obey rules and the law. If you cannot see those basic facts then you should not be allowed the vote.
8K a year and the stink of slop 😁 , disgrace how goons close ranks when someone points out peoples rights! nothin changed there
i saw so called officers throw a young boy down 2 flights of stairs heros dont make me laugh
Same hear and ayoung lad try n hang him self from top tier at winson green in 2005 n the prisoners were the ones holding him up n getting the bed sheet from his neck whill it took the screws 10min 2 even help 🤮
That young boy probably threw someone’s granny down a flight of stairs, when he robbed her.
@@DasTubemeister carlsberg
Probably wanted throwing down, there’s some right rats in there...
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain what is deserved is up to a Judge. If you leave it up to screws, next move is mob "justice" on the street, easier to allege something than pay a debt....
The good ol boys club -
For anyone whos interested. John sutton has an autobiography and a TH-cam channel with some very enlightening stories of his time working for the prison service
Take it he didn't take onboard the official secrets act warning on induction.
@@ep1929 who cares
Started here as an officer in 1975 was even worse then
Were some of those peaked caps issued with slashed peaks of did the guys see it fit to re shape them themselves?
Ex guardsmen usually slashed their peaks- not issued
The Woolf report after the riot stated that in future prison officers uniforms should be less militaristic. Peaked caps should be phased out, and until this happens, the practice of wearing the peak 'slashed' should be discontinued.
1:21 dam man the Screws were alot older back heir in the 80's n so on.. crazy eh.. this jail looks exactly like the maxo ones we have heir in Nsw #pmsl ..!
My father god rest him spend many yrs there from 71 to 83 he said the prison was rought an he said theres going 2b the biggist roit in history he was down the block on D1 a few times...
05:09 Peter Sutcliffe?
Just leave us alone this guy frightens me in a democracy like uk we dont just leave the forces of law and order alone that attitude belongs in totalitarian societies where human rights are non existant the good poeple of uk fought and won a brutal war precicely so that those who uphold the law are not just left alone being constantly scrutinised and watched closley goes with the job thats the price of freedom for us all
Alan Lord put a few dints in that bell 🔔👍
30:05 formation of 'MUFTI' teams (Minimum Use of Force and Tactical Intervention). This SCREAMS British Army riot tactics as used in Ulster! Amazing!
The screws doing the riot training reminded me of the Romans on the Life of Brian film.
A lot of these officers would of been snco in the british army and gone on to intruct in the prison service
A young Peter Kay getting his point across at 11:09
John Sutton and he's still around th-cam.com/video/SGZvk2V_Gn8/w-d-xo.html
Imperial service medal!!! They had strange way them days.
if thats the chief from thorp arch..he was a great guy..
1:46 How many ex-Guardsmen? :D
11:08 This is when Little & Large started out.
total toe rags..
That governor with the big glasses appears to have half the tops of his ears missing, was some geezer called Norman Brown I believe. Was he some survivor of a tank attack or fire during WWII or something?..
Was it when Frankie Fraser strung him up in a mail bag?
"what do we want?!"
"Baked potatoes!!"
"When do we want em?!"
"NOW!"
stupid comment
Free the prisoners!!!haaa haaa
@@paulmcdonough1093 ok boomer
@@paulmcdonough1093 Made me laugh
When did we start jailing pigeons?? 09.26
They always had a special wing for them.
@@snowflakemelter1172 rofl!, good 1
Its unacceptable!
@23:06 - Eh ? Is that a Yates bar outside the prison ??
I like the cut of johns cloth, i was a union man for years, and i challenged the management at every turn, and just like on here, they dont like it. I loved fighting what was right not what was wrong.
He's on TH-cam making videos , his name is Tales from the jails
They got me in the end, I was attacked by a Senior Officer and medically retired JOHN
Stop shouting on the landing at night time the bloody kids are in bed..
At 07:40, he almost seems like a character from a comedy show or something.
Can you imagine being like that at the age of 9 or 15? I've never heard anyone of his age speaking like that before..
The thing is that he doesn't look that old, maybe 30??
definately bullied at school LOL.
@@nicholasfields7885 that's john Sutton. He's on TH-cam with tales from the gaols. No he wasn't bullied at school
@@kevinkenny6975 That's not John Sutton. He is sat next to him later in the programme.
Nothing wrong with him. Articulate. Are you expressing inverted snobbery? Possibly!
That was FAT FRED he was a Freemason an arsehole creeper and a creep. JOHN G SUTTON
The Woolf report after the riot stated that in future prison officers uniforms should be less militaristic. Peaked caps should be phased out, and until this happens, the practice of wearing the peak 'slashed' should be discontinued.
That worked out well
Just like prison in Ireland 🇮🇪 STILL HAPPEN TODAY 😢😢😢
I wanted to be a prison officer but they said no so I asked him why and they said it's because your parents were married when they had me 😂😂😅😅😅 can't beat the old jokes
i’m confused i don’t get it
@@ts11-someone born with unmarried parents was known as a ' bastard'
I like how some of the ex Military slash their peaks (pushing the peak of the service cap back into the hat thus reducing its overhanging size). This enables the hat to fit squarely on the head in a good parade manner.
That Governor looked like a right 🔔 end
Screws would earn, on avearge, in 1980, 8 grand a year. That's about 36 grand a year nowdays, in 2024. That is'nt bad is it?
What… for all that abuse, danger and stress. I couldn’t do it for any money!
Spot the slashed peaks👍🏼
The new government had good intentions. Getting to no prisoners by there name .talking to them .some a these government. Live on a diff planet than prisoners .
I wonder if any of them new guards are still there .
44 years later - I very much doubt it 😂
@@09weenichow? Could be late 60s, 70s
Sad thing is not much has changed , we had the Poa , and the prison union , both as useful as a chocolate fire guard
That guvnor was doing so well until he said you are not here to lock them up
does anyone know what happened to govenor browns head...ww2?
WW2 ... Tank accident I think.
@roberthemingway7743 Interesting...Thanks for the reply mate
Got his head stuck in railings
WTF was a white collar officer doing mixing with blue collar workers discussing union business anyway.
"you feel no pain, you be dead in an hour "
remember in 1987 having to put your bedding and mattress on landing till teatime had to lay on metal bed no wonder ive got a bad back now
Shouldn't of got locked up then mate
did dums
I just put my blankets on my bed and led down on that 😜
1982 in there 3 in a cell a bucket in the corner banged up 24 hrs a day . Todays like a holiday camp
Stop talking shit go there if you think it's a holiday camp
Not many people getting sugar and water thrown into their face back in the 80's though , theres always violence in prisons but there was nothing then like there is these days , anyone who goes to prison is a mug , holiday camp or not.
HMP is Unrecognizable now 2024
Paul Sutton was so courteous
Knock you for 6. Them lot would. Now. They send you painting.
Was in that prison on th borstal wing
@5:03 - Lookit that Barnet !
Mark feely favourite place he like to go
"Judges must beware of hard constructions and strained inferences, for there is no worse torture than that of laws."---- Francis Bacon.
They should have listened to Sutton
maybe one or two cons then lol
A breed, screws.
0:07 all the Bulls patting themselves on the back before those windows. Guessing the population isn’t privy to the ceremony! 😂
Wow, "prisoner officers are seen in a bad light"
"I canf think why"
I think I can mate!!
Alot of prisoners are insidious, undisciplined, rebellious and aggressive. This in turn makes the staff retaliate. Aggression breeds aggression. Some of the prisoners play the ‘victim card’. They initiate aggression and blame the staff for aggravated behaviour.
y1000 if they are the victims, they have every right to. I don't imagine being a prison officer is an easy job, certainly not a job id want.
The only difference between the inmates and officers on occasions are the uniform and the conviction
These old screws were propper,, when you look at the shower of shit we have now locking up our criminals thay aint worth a penny,,ive seen for my self the new breed of screws and trust thsy would never walk a mile in these old screws shoes,,, for one theres no respect for them, thay are so easily manipulated, and you can see the fear in there eyes,, some of them are ok,, but most of em come from the new training regimes,,you need people skills to gain the trust of prisoners,the new breed are like little children in there mind set,, petty and want to make a name for there selves,, old screws from back has far had the 60s to the late nineties were good old tuff but fair,wot you saw you got from them, thay earned their respect, and thay would give you respected iff you earned it,,
Seriously who gives a fuck about prisoners, shouldn't do the crime
Official secrets act my ass! Half of them are busy smuggling in drugs for the inmates.
It's more an implicit code of silence. That they don't discuss all the cruel, bullying shit they got away with, as they didn't want an inquiry like what happened after 1990.
Spent 5 weeks in strangeways back in 99...was still a shit hole.
Really ? What were you convicted for ?
@@mistofoles ABH a drunken fight in my 20's...got 4 months spent 5 weeks in strangeways then was moved to kirkham for the rest of my sentence...never been back.
What did you expect? Bunting?
John Sutton is amazing as is his book Psychic Screw 👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for that I tried I really did.
@@talesfromthejails ❤️
❤ john is the best respect him a lot great man
The screws in most prisons were bullies, Barlinnie prison screws just used to beat people up for nothing, but I guess times have changed now.....but who knows.....
Slasher Gallacher.
@@Semtex_1992 aye Bootsy in Longregend, the auld Growler in the Y.O.(E Hall), mental....
not even one black screw? or con ive seen
There was one black con shown here
Most black men got sent to Brixton prison back then
One of the Top Screws there was a National Front man th-cam.com/video/SGZvk2V_Gn8/w-d-xo.html
National front members within the strange ways prison officer circles ,they wouldn't of wanted that ,drinking then going on duty and doing what they pleased when they pleased and getting away with it
Well there certainly making up for it now !
Are you sure this is Manchester.? It’s sunny and no rain in sight. The weather has some strangeways especially in the dark gloomy atmosphere that is Manchester.
Eh?!? No female officers in the staff back then?? What about searching female partners and relatives when they visit; would the male staff have done that?
Yeah, none of the searching laws and legislation existed back then. Female's didnt come into Strangeways until the 90s
Whose with blue collars
These prisons are holiday camps compared to south America and russia
this was 1980 ?
ever been to pontin's puss puss?
This is how it was years ago ..HELLO i would like to be a prison officer ,ok what have you done before i was in the army 12years ,i was a drill instuctur and a physycal training instuctur. ok when can you start monday if thats ok . .Now in the yaer 2021 i would like to be a prison person officer please . .Ok what have you done before .well i was at collage 2 years then i got 4 o levels .And i am 5ft 8 inch tall and i weigh 12 stone ..I live at home with my mum and dad and i have 2 rabbits .ok start tomorrow . Its might be a bit rough but you will be ok love ,if you are feeling threatand ,just fill a form in and have 6 months off . full pay dont let them prisoners shout at you . no sex either haver you got that .
sticks had no effect on the riot..rasss
John g Sutton rules
7:46 this man is pissed as a fart. from lunchtime boozing.