Man Alive Borstal 1970s

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  • Doc showing the conditions of 1970s Borstals

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  • @harryblast2282
    @harryblast2282 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    Just avoid the greenhouse…

    • @grobbler1
      @grobbler1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Unless... you don't want to avoid the greenhouse;

    • @stuartsmith8562
      @stuartsmith8562 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@grobbler1it'll be full I reckon 😂😂

    • @grobbler1
      @grobbler1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stuartsmith8562 Plenty of windows too for those who don't 'enter.'

    • @ELLIOTNEWPIP
      @ELLIOTNEWPIP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Avoid Barry

    • @kidinthecloud
      @kidinthecloud 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂

  • @waynegoodman3345
    @waynegoodman3345 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Thank you for uploading this that's my late brother at 1:20 ❤ 🙏🙏🙏

    • @-----hk6jj
      @-----hk6jj 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's so cool you can find a memory of him encapsulated like this! Do you mind me asking what he did to get there ?

    • @waynegoodman3345
      @waynegoodman3345 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@-----hk6jj he broke out of most young offenders places he was put in as a teenager they eventually put him in in Portland as it was more secure. None of what he ever did was violent crime or burglary by the way it was stealing and breaking into shops etc back in those days they would lock you up even for that.

    • @kevphillips02
      @kevphillips02 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waynegoodman3345 Do you know what year he was at this borstal?

    • @frankpaya690
      @frankpaya690 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm sorry he's gone. whatever became of him after this? How long did he live after this and how did he die?
      Did he have ups and downs as his life went on- where it seemed his life was working out?

    • @waynegoodman3345
      @waynegoodman3345 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@frankpaya690he died in 2015 of pancreatic cancer aged 64.He had 3 children was married and divorced once was a good bloke,never went looking for trouble and kept to himself but was able to look after himself 🙏

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Most of these blokes were born around 1950. Just think 💭 they are around 75 years old now.

    • @Jack_Warner
      @Jack_Warner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Yes, it's bloody frightening. I was 8 years old in 1970, now I'm 62, can't wait to get off this mad planet. I feel sorry for young people today.

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Jack_Warner I agree ☝️ I was born in 1973.

    • @Jack_Warner
      @Jack_Warner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@danrobinson572 You've got 11 years extra sentence over me.

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Jack_Warner hahaha 😂

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dead .like me old man who was in borstal for armed robbery in the 70s.

  • @garyhillman4993
    @garyhillman4993 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Miss man alive. Great programme n iconic music

    • @king77703
      @king77703 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Produced by Tony Hatch and his Orchestra 👍

    • @BruceDanton-xw6eg
      @BruceDanton-xw6eg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was on bbc2 then I think from 1965 to 1982.

  • @fightingreaper4934
    @fightingreaper4934 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Came across your crime & prison videos today, 90% of which I’ve not seen before, where have all these come from they’re absolute quality, will keep me busy in the evenings for a few weeks, cheers keep up the good work 👍🏻

    • @Fanedit-hb8br
      @Fanedit-hb8br  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Cheers

    • @andybarnes8407
      @andybarnes8407 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed,just came across em last night too,love em & keep dem coming

    • @geordieal9187
      @geordieal9187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Me too, great stuff. Love it

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Fanedit-hb8brfantastic video hopefully you put out more.

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Fanedit-hb8brhere in America 🇺🇸 once you hit 18 you were in adult prison. Over there they keep you up to 21 in borstal or juvenile prison I guess.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    54 years ago....life has changed beyond recognition . The year i was born? My old man was in Borstal, In Kent i think.Hes gone now. God bless him. South London boys both of us and now im an old man. Well 50 odd plus. Man alive life goes by in the blink of an eye.

    • @rockybarrano33
      @rockybarrano33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Spot on …👍👍

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carlin, is it? Don't look much to me, Carlin... you're the little toerag who thumped the officer at Rowley... fancy yerself do ya, Carlin? Thumpin' officers, eh?

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It really does go fast mate

    • @seanheader9279
      @seanheader9279 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      54 isnt old

    • @Venmaylove
      @Venmaylove 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Carlin: Where's your tool?

  • @S-North
    @S-North 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I'm glad to have been born in 71, I got the chance to see the country a while before the digital era came and really kicked in, creating the fears, paranoia and the sense of hopelessness that we now see today.
    It was a tougher life growing up in the 70's and 80's, though there was always a sense of hope and optimism.
    Sadly those senses have been almost deliberately' stripped away.

    • @dunki-dunki-dawg
      @dunki-dunki-dawg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Britain was run badly until we entered the EU where many things improved. It had become rotten to the core before we left recently. We are now on the march towards a global communism with Russia, China USA and UK and Europe all signed up to it complete by 2030. These changes are going to be big and broad changes starting with Hawaii and Italy as these pillars of change take place. We will indeed ''own nothing'' and apparently ''be happier''. I'm sorry but taking action in your own affairs and taking agency in the affairs is what should bring us happiness. All choices will be lost and I will even lose the ownership of my own home. If I have spare rooms then I have no say into who will occupy those spare bedrooms.

    • @bushratbeachbum
      @bushratbeachbum 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@dunki-dunki-dawgabsolute rubbish you deluded fool.

    • @josephcurley8226
      @josephcurley8226 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      100% mate, I was born in 74' in Belfast during the troubles, 70s and 80s were mad but if I had the choice to grow up then or now, I'd choose our era over todays.

    • @kyriivanhoe
      @kyriivanhoe 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dunki-dunki-dawg Are you serious? The EU was the fast track to communism!!!

    • @StuartWhelan-up8vs
      @StuartWhelan-up8vs 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think exactly the same l was born in 75 making go carts with silver Cross prams and causing havoc with catapults.

  • @vanderark89
    @vanderark89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I’ve seen some of these videos before but they disappeared. Good to see some new stuff(even if it is 50 years old) on this channel. Great stuff. Thanks.

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    What a great documentary programme Man Alive was ... good quality journalism from the B.B.C.

    • @BruceDanton-xw6eg
      @BruceDanton-xw6eg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Was on bbc2 then at the time.

  • @BigBleedinSteve
    @BigBleedinSteve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for all these uploads. That's me sorted for a few months 👍

  • @jamessones4044
    @jamessones4044 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    This country has changed to a point it almostt brings a tear to my eye.

    • @moominmay
      @moominmay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Weird comment on a Borstal documentary. Do you mean you’re upset that prisons are not all white anymore? 😂

    • @bushratbeachbum
      @bushratbeachbum 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      You miss the days of abuse hidden behind red tape and violence around every corner do you?

    • @moominmay
      @moominmay 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bushratbeachbum lol these types of people don’t care about the genuine human suffering that went on they just want it all white. If you actually dumped them back in the all white past then unless they’re upper class or something they’d be crying like babies wanting to return to the present 🙄

    • @granitesevan6243
      @granitesevan6243 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@bushratbeachbumYes, having an unreasonably positive disposition towards the past goes hand in glove with many of the nastiest political ideas that are festering in present-day Britain. It's all very useful for those who don't want you to think about the real reasons that our civilisation is on the skids

    • @4nna5
      @4nna5 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@granitesevan6243 so true, i love watching old archive videos and docs but my god the comments are usually filled with that kind of rubbish

  • @Tweeterandthemonkeyman
    @Tweeterandthemonkeyman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fanedit, I hope you have monetised this channel coz you would deserve every penny of it. Your material is amazing and will be viewed by millions soon. Thankyou so much.

  • @mattgosling2657
    @mattgosling2657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good channel that I've only just come across, I've already watched a few of these old documentaries but it looks like you've put loads of them onto TH-cam, good one mate it'll keep me occupied for a while watching em I hadn't realised so many older prison documentaries had been made.

  • @cglees
    @cglees 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    It seems that everyone was so much more intelligent back then

    • @doobydootoo
      @doobydootoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      No tiktok

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's because they actually were!. Very, very few were drug addicts and pushers, the majority of them had 2 parents and brothers and sisters who were all from the same stable!
      Plenty did reoffend but nothing like the rates we see today. Your average standard 15 yr old British lad of 1967 was nothing, not a single thing, like your average 15 yr old today!!!!

    • @th8257
      @th8257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@501sqn3hahaha, you for real?

    • @th8257
      @th8257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Russian troll

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@th8257 Absolutely, though I doubt very much that you are!.🤦

  • @kitharrison8799
    @kitharrison8799 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great channel mate, some real gems

  • @Bongo-sm3mf
    @Bongo-sm3mf วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is an excellent documentary I remember man alive programs when I was a kid growing up in the 1970s I wish they would make programs of this quality these days! People seemed to be much more intelligent and have more common sense then than they do now! Also the prison staff seemed to be serious about trying to help these lads to sort their lives out

  • @Jack_Warner
    @Jack_Warner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    At the time stamp 27:34 there is a calendar on the wall for April 1970. The 4th April, I did my Cycling Proficiency test on that day. I've still got the certificate.

    • @buy.to.let.britain
      @buy.to.let.britain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ..and thats why he stayed alive for so long......

    • @tracysmith4648
      @tracysmith4648 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My birthday I'd be 8yrs old 2:28

    • @HHM706
      @HHM706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was my 4th birthday!

    • @glenndouglas8822
      @glenndouglas8822 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You never got a certificate for Cycling Proficiency test. In the 70s and 80s you got a metal or ceramic badge to put on ya bike. Never released certificates in the 70s and 80s.

    • @Jack_Warner
      @Jack_Warner 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@glenndouglas8822 LOL! I got a certificate and a badge, but I lost the badge.

  • @malcolmclements9254
    @malcolmclements9254 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "As for work Sir, I dont want to be a gardener, especially greenhouse's and definitely nowhere near coal or pool tables."

  • @mintythemoose
    @mintythemoose 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Superb series.
    I remember this episode well. Incredible to realize how long ago this was, but many young lads endured. Now, of course, old men.

  • @peterbrown5201
    @peterbrown5201 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I was at Portland Borstal 1969/70 after escaping from Guys Marsh. Everyone went into Grenville which was the reception wing. Then you would be allocated your House.
    Either Drake, Benbow, Raleigh or Nelson. I went into Nelson and was lucky to do a 6month Mech Eng course under Mr Petty. I got City & Guilds. I managed to complete my training in 13 months and was released in August 1970. Funny I dont recognise any of the housemasters in the video. I dont remember the BBC being there. Maybe they were filming in another house. I thought it was ok there. Not too much trouble. Taught me a trade.

    • @shaunmclorinan9656
      @shaunmclorinan9656 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aye sure mate

    • @davidfelix2594
      @davidfelix2594 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You was prob biting your pillow at the time.

    • @macweed3358
      @macweed3358 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shaunmclorinan9656 your a sad individual if you think the mans going to make up a story what happened 50 plus years ago. behave yourself Numpty

  • @andrewstones2921
    @andrewstones2921 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The movie Scum was the most realistic portrayal of Borstal in the 70s, violence from officers was commonplace.. not all staff, but the ones who didn’t use violence turned a blind eye to the ones who did. In truth there were some decent staff who really tried their best. In 1982 the Borstal system was abolished and all sentences were changed from 6-2 to a straight 8 months, which meant hundreds were released on the same day.

    • @BruceDanton-xw6eg
      @BruceDanton-xw6eg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would guess as well too.

    • @gr-s2143
      @gr-s2143 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you speaking from experience?

  • @sharkbite5744
    @sharkbite5744 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    How the face of our jails has changed.

  • @michealconlon1354
    @michealconlon1354 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Done borstal twice deerbolt then everthope I think myself I was treated really well at both borstals learnt my trade in there cook and still into it

    • @gloverdragon6854
      @gloverdragon6854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it true about what could happen in there? It could be brutal?

    • @jimmyoconnell6167
      @jimmyoconnell6167 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I done Deerbolt and Everthorpe in the 70s

  • @patmustardlive
    @patmustardlive 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve been in Wetherby , Everthorpe and Deerbolt. All previous borstals but were YOI in 80s when I was in em.

  • @craigprice1567
    @craigprice1567 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Notice the lack of black kids , also no fat kids. How times have changed!

    • @BruceDanton-xw6eg
      @BruceDanton-xw6eg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indeed so too.

    • @GavTatu
      @GavTatu วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      portland is down south, maybe it was different in other parts of the country.

    • @BruceDanton-xw6eg
      @BruceDanton-xw6eg วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@craigprice1567 they have indeed.

  • @howey935
    @howey935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    A couple of my mates have recently had pay outs because they were abused in medomsley borstal by staff.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boys homes etc had terrible reputations and rightly so..... still being uncovered today for abusive systems.

    • @gilsog8515
      @gilsog8515 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Paid out big moneybhete to in belfast from 13 gs up to 90gs

    • @IFYOUREADTHISUAREWEIRDANDGHEY
      @IFYOUREADTHISUAREWEIRDANDGHEY 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gilsog8515 thats a lot of ciggies and white lightning init laaaaaahhh!!!!

    • @Evie3331
      @Evie3331 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Medomsley in Consett was an absolute hell hole! Riddled with paedophiles and sadistic evil staff. So many of those lads committed suicide over the years because they were truly traumatised.

  • @mattgosling2657
    @mattgosling2657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like how they call them trainees, the only thing they are being trained for is how to be adult prisoners when they become old enough for men's prisons.

  • @klawlor3659
    @klawlor3659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subbed kidda. Nice to see old vids.

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fantastic video

  • @jamesnicholson2503
    @jamesnicholson2503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Fella I know from Rhymney Gwent South Wales went here,it didn't learn him,hes 55 in May,and still dogy,hes been in trouble from the age of 15,and now 55 in May pathetic!!!!!

  • @deanothemanc5281
    @deanothemanc5281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, my dad was born in the 50s. He always said the mere mention of borstal would make you tow the line. They really were used as a deterrent. I always have visions of it being like the film scum lol!!!

  • @PeterMc141
    @PeterMc141 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I nearly ended up in Borstal when I lived in Salford in the 70s. I was glad to leave Salford when I did.

    • @peternagy-im4be
      @peternagy-im4be 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Most people are probably glad to leave Salford

  • @dannychampion5710
    @dannychampion5710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They is a documentary on hindley prision yp in about 98 I would love u to find that I am on for 3 seconds and my m8 for about 10 seconds it’s definitely out there good luck with ur channel it’s brilliant

  • @kenneth2656
    @kenneth2656 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Carlin at 34:54

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who????

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      IM THE DADDY IN HERE?

    • @danrobinson572
      @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CARLIN4737 hahaha 😂

    • @toppertruthio
      @toppertruthio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😅that does actually look like Ray winston

  • @user-qb2yl7ty4c
    @user-qb2yl7ty4c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    4737 carling sir!

    • @user-qb2yl7ty4c
      @user-qb2yl7ty4c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@crok22 where's ya tool?

    • @shaneainsworth6644
      @shaneainsworth6644 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right Banks you barstard

    • @RascalMcBants
      @RascalMcBants 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "I'm The Daddy round here!"

    • @shaungallagher1947
      @shaungallagher1947 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-qb2yl7ty4c what tool? This fackin tool!

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You called.

  • @johnbowkett80
    @johnbowkett80 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I did 2 Borstals ...... Hewell Grange and Onley in the early 70's . 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @ignoblesurfer6281
    @ignoblesurfer6281 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The lad giving the old boy a shave and a haircut - I really hope he made it on the outside. He had a proper way with people.

  • @neilmclaughlin2347
    @neilmclaughlin2347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was dying to read the comments, as ot that old, but I remember watching things like World in Action and After Dark. Compare that to the guff you see being made nowadays.
    People who say we are now in a ‘golden age of television’ are talking out of their arse, try comparing something like ‘The One Show’ to programmes like ‘Parkinson’ or ‘The Dick Cavett Show’ it’s night and day folks.
    That’s not to say the past was some wonderous place either.

    • @getmetothegeek4066
      @getmetothegeek4066 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think they're referring to expensive, well made US dramas rather than the One show!

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Exactly how many deputy governors were there at this place ??

  • @Jamie_Wulfyr
    @Jamie_Wulfyr 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I find it interesting that they're talking about the potential benefits of either being treated more harshly or having the option to serve in the Army instead of the daily Borstal routine. When I see young prisoners on film these days they're usually boasting of their crimes often in the form of a low quality drill rap. The contrast is really interesting to see. Thank you for uploading this. Man Alive presented a really interesting snapshot of the social history of the UK. It's a little before my time. I'm 51 so most of these documentaries were filmed a few years before I was born.

  • @stuarttorevell2353
    @stuarttorevell2353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    excellent commentary uk 🇬🇧 manchester

  • @owenbrown3314
    @owenbrown3314 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Was in Dover in the 80s , and whenever we played up ; they'd say their going to send us to Portland

    • @ianwhitehead691
      @ianwhitehead691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahhh did-ems

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rochester.

    • @johnbleakley4125
      @johnbleakley4125 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Portland, Maine ? Stephen king was born there 🤣🤣🤣

    • @johnbleakley4125
      @johnbleakley4125 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was in an establishment in the very early 80's known as Rose Hill on Longley lane, Manchester. I was put in there for stealing money from a teacher's purse at Bollin Cross school,Style, Cheshire. I always thought it was a borstal, but someone told me it was a " secure " children's home. I certainly remember bars on the windows and dormitories. Can anyone shed any light on the subject?; 🤔

    • @gregconway736
      @gregconway736 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Criminal Justice Act 1982 officially abolished the borstal system in the UK, introducing youth custody centres instead.
      Basically Borstals were rebranded.

  • @jimbeckwith5949
    @jimbeckwith5949 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went through the system aged 13. By then it was called "local authority secure care". Turned me around in 3 months. I hadn't been convicted of any crime, but i was possibly on my way there. It was harsh, brutal, but character building. Never looked back. Got work at 18, held a number of senior positions in my life, including head of department in a major national rail company, ironically running a prosecution unit, and now a law enforcement officer. Bring this system back it works. Young men need the guidance i never got at home.

  • @mrmyford
    @mrmyford 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    done Portland borstal 1981, 1982 1983, done 3 stints first borstal, then a 4 month borstal recall, then in 1983 it had changed to yc and done 9 months, i was in hardy house, then Grenville house, then Rodney just before release, when i was recalled went straight back into Grenville, on my 3rd visit i was in drake house, had 2 Christmases in there 81 & 82 didn't have anyone to send money in for Christmas so had to settle for the queens £1.00 Christmas parcel, which was dried fruit juice , just ad water, and biscuits and a few sweets...no baccy
    i was education orderly, and was told i only got that job , because i had been back 3 time lol, learnt a lot but to me it wasn't hard,
    crazy now aged 60 and still have memories of the place, hard to wonder where the 41 yrs has gone since being there,
    can even remember the swimming pool there on my first wack, but closed by my 2nd 3rd time there, and also playing football in the old quarry lol, think my last weekly wage was £1.75 enough to buy 3/4 ounce of baccy and papers,
    still have my original education orderly photocopy pass, that i smuggled out of my radio , told the screw i lost my pass and got a replacement
    remember playing the screws snooker for a packet of biscuits or a mars bar if you lost
    regards to anyone who done the borstal training.

    • @ianwhitehead691
      @ianwhitehead691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't commit crime then. 🙄

    • @mrmyford
      @mrmyford 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ianwhitehead691 thanks for the sound advice 41 yrs late, like i needed your advice now , i was passing on my experience to others to stay out the system, for what its worth i didn't reoffend after 1983 ok

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Waste of life.

    • @rockybarrano33
      @rockybarrano33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Massive great pitch…loved playing there…

    • @stevefrancis2289
      @stevefrancis2289 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was in Drake, 83 - 84.
      Did 12 months out of 18, youth custody.
      The Police song, Every Breath You Take, was playing on the van radio as they drove us through the gates.
      Wasn't the powdered drink called Rise and Shine ?
      I quite liked it.

  • @jamesnicholson2503
    @jamesnicholson2503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Glad I was born in 74.Not this day and age.

  • @paulr1928
    @paulr1928 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Joined the army in the mid 70’s, the deputy governor sounds like a senior ex army officer, maybe a major.
    In and out of Borstal and in and out of prison, same today as back then and only a few want to improve themselves the majority of offenders make a career out of it.
    I know this as I’m a retired copper from Greater Manchester.

  • @davidbowie2046
    @davidbowie2046 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember being put in a half way house for a few weeks at the age of 13 in the early 80's. If I carried on, Borstal awaited me. Scared me to death and from then on I behaved and got on in life. Just the sheer mention of Borstal used to instil fear into a lot of young men. Should bring them back, but I fear it's too late for them to be effective.

  • @5implesimon
    @5implesimon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Judging by the lad saying 2/6 and the April calendar behind the governor I would say this is 1970

  • @mattgosling2657
    @mattgosling2657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Borstal looked rough if I was a young lad in there especially first time I would keep away from any job in the greenhouse.

  • @rockybarrano33
    @rockybarrano33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My old man used to cut there hair in the 60s…said most of the lads were just unfortunate upbringings…but there were a few wrong uns….quite dangerous

  • @s4squatch1
    @s4squatch1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At 14 mins 45 secs is that a young Nick Faldo, Steve Davis and Simon Pegg ?

    • @rockybarrano33
      @rockybarrano33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Robert Shaw afterwards..😆

  • @ignoblesurfer6281
    @ignoblesurfer6281 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The staff member giving the introductory speech... not exactly General Patton, is he?

  • @johnratcliffe4344
    @johnratcliffe4344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great upload this FANEDIT

  • @James-cr5qx
    @James-cr5qx 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Even in prison they used to dress smarter than most of the youth of today

    • @th8257
      @th8257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Grumpy old man

  • @buy.to.let.britain
    @buy.to.let.britain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    im feeling strongly drawn to mecca sir.

    • @neilmclaughlin2347
      @neilmclaughlin2347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      …’Mecca’ Archer!

    • @TomFarrell-js8sl
      @TomFarrell-js8sl 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You will see the chaplain tomorrow Archer and there will be no more talk of MECCA!!! In this establishment! Get him issued with the boots!
      About turn! Move it Archer!

    • @davidbowie2046
      @davidbowie2046 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TomFarrell-js8sl Plastic boots ;)

    • @TomFarrell-js8sl
      @TomFarrell-js8sl 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidbowie2046 I'm thinking of turning Sikh.....

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 19:37 that bloke probably ended up in prison a lot in his life. You can tell by his attitude and body language.

  • @yan24to
    @yan24to 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That intro tune takes me back.

  • @ashleysaunders9947
    @ashleysaunders9947 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was in youth custody in 1989, got in a fight first week.Ended up in the block, hated being confined.

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder what ever happened to the bloke at 19:37. Hope his attitude had changed since than.

  • @Jack_Warner
    @Jack_Warner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When that guy said he gets 2 & 8 a week, I calculated that into decimal and it works out about 13p a week. Two Shillings is 10p. 8d is about 3p.

    • @rubusroo68
      @rubusroo68 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About 69p today

  • @carlholleran2037
    @carlholleran2037 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That place still looked the same 25 yrs later

  • @s4squatch1
    @s4squatch1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got transferred to Portland from Alcatraz back in 1959 because I kept escaping. It was alright.

    • @kjpkjp8083
      @kjpkjp8083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was it like in Alcatraz?

    • @doobydootoo
      @doobydootoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be a good swimmer

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hello Clint, did you make good your escape then with the other two? 😂

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As soon as the TV crew had left, I bet the screws kicked the shit out of the cons that spoke out to the interviewer.

    • @ianwhitehead691
      @ianwhitehead691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂🤣 I wouldn't be surprised

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I was thinking how the screws were putting on an act cos of all the cameras being there.

  • @doomjuan4892
    @doomjuan4892 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Britain looked ancient compared to the US in the 1970s.

  • @jessewrites17792
    @jessewrites17792 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The man in the intro is making great points.

  • @acrossthepond4792
    @acrossthepond4792 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder what happened to them all. I hope they made good lives for themselves.

    • @lewissmith3896
      @lewissmith3896 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope so too.

    • @peternagy-im4be
      @peternagy-im4be 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably members of the Labour Party

  • @howardelder4411
    @howardelder4411 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I done 2 DCs in the 70s 4 and 5 I was 14 and 15 when I next got caught I 21 so prison 1981 👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @frankpaya690
    @frankpaya690 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So different than the jails here. They actually got to have privacy while they changed out of their street clothes & into prison uniforms. Most of the time you are strip searched & in front of everyone.

  • @edwardburnsenhicks7772
    @edwardburnsenhicks7772 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Summer 96 i was in portland.

  • @malcolmclements9254
    @malcolmclements9254 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew someone who went to a Borstal and he didn't like it, "Im not going back there."

  • @arserobinson7118
    @arserobinson7118 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you walk past the greenhouse you can hear "No! No!... No! Please! No!..............OOOOOOOHHHHH!"

  • @Dallco83
    @Dallco83 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Ray Winstone @ 16.09 left !!

  • @mrgladstone4044
    @mrgladstone4044 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Decent staff trying to reform the lads, very fair documentary. Where are those boys now.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As we know now, borstals were absolutely appalling places, often with elements of sexual and physical abuse by staff.

  • @modrevival168
    @modrevival168 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some intelligent lads here too

    • @moominmay
      @moominmay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not intelligent enough though obviously 🙄

  • @Kris-69
    @Kris-69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regrettably got sent to Stoke Heath twice 80/82 B & C wing.

  • @CazTanto
    @CazTanto 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only clicked this out of local interest. Had no idea that Borstal became a general name for youth prisons 😅

  • @rolandrothwell4840
    @rolandrothwell4840 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The spoken English was far better then

    • @quinnerefc
      @quinnerefc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      innit bruv

  • @donnaweston7697
    @donnaweston7697 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    15.30...you get the same food in here as in prisons 😮 So both this guy and the one just before would rather be in prison locked up in a cell 🤔🤔

  • @davemac5007
    @davemac5007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deputy governor Robert Shaw the late actor

  • @MrDastardly
    @MrDastardly หลายเดือนก่อน

    April 1974

  • @LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts
    @LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's all derelict now. Apart from one building that's run as a cafe for the fantastic views.

  • @goc1842
    @goc1842 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I feel myself drawn towards mecca

    • @micahbodha6129
      @micahbodha6129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @goc1842 Mecca! Archer!!!😂

    • @markadams738
      @markadams738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      For the Bingo or Dancing ?😂

    • @user-ky6rh5bg8q
      @user-ky6rh5bg8q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get some more shoe polish on you feet.

    • @neilmclaughlin2347
      @neilmclaughlin2347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do your time in a matchbox

    • @tonycoxall7370
      @tonycoxall7370 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Let us have no more talk of Mecca!!

  • @Timemachine74
    @Timemachine74 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really interesting 👍

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The bloke at 21.30 looks like hes about 35? I bet hes a dead ringer for his old man. Probably neither knocking about now as he would be knocking on 75 let alone his father.

  • @rolandrothwell4840
    @rolandrothwell4840 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are casualties of society and have been treated badly.

  • @mrivantchernegovski3869
    @mrivantchernegovski3869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great kiwi punk band song from 1980 ,thr tearaways never been to borstal,the borstal model was exported around the western part of Britains Empire ,here in New zealand it was Waikeria ,middle of nowhere north island ,where wayward youth put by the courts stayed .basically stepping stone to the NZ prison system and made these youths who later went to prison hardened criminalswho went on to join a gang and gang life and in and out of prison ,the whole system just produced hard men that hated society and its rules and the system that put them in jail .the begining of all our gangs can be traced back to first kids being removed from home and put in care of the state .then onto borstal as youth then on to the big house adult prison

  • @lewismccrimmon
    @lewismccrimmon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    How the world has changed dramatically eh , the woke brigade of today wouldn't last 5 minutes back then , back when there was only 2 genders for example 😅😅 great videos truly fascinating stuff , i done a few years in prison in Scotland I'm only 40 but dear me they should bring borstal back sort the youths out of today , suppose human rights woukd get shouted alot these days 😅😅😅

  • @NoContextTheOfficeUK-zb9co
    @NoContextTheOfficeUK-zb9co 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Up your F in Borstal”

  • @AndyPandy-sj9bl
    @AndyPandy-sj9bl 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Real old school East Lancashire accent from the instructor at 23.56

  • @johnbicknell4748
    @johnbicknell4748 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mecca!? Archer!!!

  • @Alfredromeothatsme
    @Alfredromeothatsme 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1970's but I'm getting 1870's vibes!

  • @buskingkarma2503
    @buskingkarma2503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where's your tool? What F-ing tool!

    • @TomFarrell-js8sl
      @TomFarrell-js8sl 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's a lad in that bed, Carlin...BIG LAD....called Pongo. 'E 'eard you were comin'.....

    • @johngraham5996
      @johngraham5996 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      this fking tool

  • @julianpotentate5942
    @julianpotentate5942 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you have great videos rare your chanel should be bigger start by changing that name ??something more catchy cheers

  • @brianfarrell3987
    @brianfarrell3987 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Name and number! etc

  • @darrenscott150
    @darrenscott150 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is like butlins compared to Blantyre house detention centre goudhurst kent 86. This place is soft.

    • @Southerngeordie287
      @Southerngeordie287 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was in aldrinton just down the road in 85 ish totally different to this - this looks a doddle😂

  • @jamesrafferty4855
    @jamesrafferty4855 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got borstal 79 , went lowden Grange ,then fresh whack Wellingborough, was easy.

  • @oldbutty
    @oldbutty 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1970. Reflects the 1960s rather than the 1970s.

  • @jimmyoconnell6167
    @jimmyoconnell6167 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Borstal was a holiday camp

    • @peternagy-im4be
      @peternagy-im4be 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But you wouldn't know that son.

  • @OlizerVanAntoninus
    @OlizerVanAntoninus 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some of them are being drawn to Mecca

  • @kevinbird9194
    @kevinbird9194 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Should still have them