@@shadbanta14 they do, but they have orders from the top down. To be 100% real I'm sure most low level agents are gonna hate this because it makes their jobs harder.
New rules are not new laws. Old rules are not old laws. RULES ARE NOT LAWS! The atf has no authority to make rules into laws. At this point the atf doesn't have any credibility.
Yes, they kinda do have the power. You can thank the 13 republicans starting with John Cornyn that crafted a bill that could destroy our 2nd amendment.
Some government agency is always in control. More importantly it's what the law says with regard to the subject in question. And although it can be challenged it will almost certainly be at significant cost with the likelihood of a favoring outcome being doubtful.
@@DonnieDarko727, No, just the existence of the current ATF, and the NFA should’ve been judged as unconstitutional. That’s why the fight doesn’t stop till the ATF is either reformed or abolished, and the NFA is as useful as toilet paper.
"The CONSTITUTION shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own ARMS. " ~Samuel Adams Massachusetts Ratifying Convention 1788
If we so cowardly allow such a thing, like an agency with no authority to pass "laws" or "ruled" that are clearly against the Law... then we would deserve it. Absolutely 100% we would deserve it. To obey an unjust "law" is to enforce an unjust "law" is to create an unjust "law" is to deserve an unjust "law". In the end, there is no one to blame, but ourselves. There is no tyranny in this nation that we do not Allow... and therefore, there is no tyranny in this nation that we do not deserve.
This is the type of question we should be asking. Congress could hold them accountable, but they have abdicated their duties so they can find more time to get reelected and continue enriching themselves.
Good luck. That ship sailed long ago when they gave themselves that power and nullified the 10th through the Wickard SCOTUS case under FDR. Otherwise 98% of all "federal crimes" and arrests would be invalid
@@Hyperion656 Wickard v. Filburn. It'll make your blood boil to read it. In typical fashion, a judge with a predetermined decision used mental gymnastics to justify their decision and expand government power. They use it to this very day to claim that virtually everything falls under interstate commerce and is therefore subject to federal jurisdiction. Nothing gave the fed power like this, before or since. It destroyed the 10th even more than the Patriot Act destroyed the 4th.
@@Hyperion656 Wickard v Filburn SCOTUS said the federal government could penalize an Ohio farmer, Rosco Filburn, for growing more wheat than he was allowed under FDR's Agricultural Adjustment Act(artificial scarcity to control prices). This was despite the extra wheat being for Filburn's personal use, mostly feeding his own livestock, and not in any way entering interstate commerce.
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The ATF will bait someone at a gun show arrest them and make an example out of them. Fu?k the few intimidate the many. And the news will make sure it's televised over and over again.
Undercover buyers, similar to the way they trick guys looking for sex with minors (not to compare the two; selling a gun is not immoral, while raping minors is).
One of the men that was supposed to replace the former ATF director. The first thing he wanted to do and this is said on Congress floor to Congress that he wanted to check criminal records that they have an arrest people for crimes that they think they're going to commit in the future.
I tried selling some stuff locally on Armslist through an FFL and you would not believe the number of people trying to get arms shipped to them out of state; it felt like it was full of ATF trying to get people to break the law.
You're allowed to sell firearms out of state private party. But it has to be transferred through an FFL. This has always been legal. People buy used guns on arms list from all over the country. If the firearm is legal to be sold in the state it can be sent there to be transferred through an FFL
I can believe it, it wasn’t like that a few years ago. I listed a rifle and a handgun where I foolishly copy pasted the rest of the description after the details about the rifle to save some time. I had noted in that listing that if the seller doesn’t want to use an FFL (legal in my state) I would be happy to see a carry permit and call that good. Private sales of long guns are legal in my state but not handguns. I had several people email me within hours of putting up the listing politely telling me what I already knew. I fixed the listing and ended up selling the pistol to a relative through my local ffl but if they wanted to try and get someone that would’ve been an obvious target.
A lot of them were probably legit and just wanted to transfer it through an FFL which is legal. But a lot of them were probably felons trying to get around the system. While I am all for the 2nd amendment, I think you are right in this case. If you don't feel comfortable, don't do it. When selling a firearm, it's better to be overly cautious.
The same as every other law. This is directed not at psychopaths' and damaged individuals with no sense of consequence. This is entirely about disarming those that feel their hard work and commitment to basic, Christian morality should entitle them to a say in the government that they fund and vote for. There is a sickness that has grown up in our world. A sickness that would twist and call into question the very laws of nature and common sense. These people at the height of power will criminalize the lawful while turning lose the criminal and lawless in the name of mercy and understanding. Our neighbors will turn on us. They prepared it with the Wu Han bug.
Once the media machine starts "reporting" on all the busts being made, nationwide, people will be lining up to comply. An insanely large number of people, will fall in line and then, yes, the snitch's will help on the back end. It's already been proven, with other ATF over reach "rulings".
If this every sees the light of day then they will say that they need a registry to enforce it, and that's 3/4 of the way to their end goal of banning guns.
" The CONSTITUTION of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their RIGHT and DUTY to be at All Times Armed. " ~Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Catwright June 5th 1824
@@gregb6469I got around selling beer at a golf tournament once. Had to be 21 to buy a stick of gum, and they got a complimentary beer. Had zero problems.
Remember that private sales staying legal was the compromise when they passed the brady act. No one can say the slippery slope isn't real because here is yet another example.
Tell me this brother. How is the ATF going to enforce this new rule with private sales. There will be no way to regulate and/or know when a citizen decide to sell a firearm person to person and keep it off any open format.
The ATF actually said that it is illegal to celebrate any major holidays, They also stated that you should not drive a vehicle, They also said that you should worship their god of choosing, They also said you should turn in your neighbors.
By your own mouth, written records, or accessing your phone, Facebook, etc, where you might have slipped up and snitched on yourself. So.. the same ways that most modern "criminals" get got.
When they find someone else in possession of it and run the serial number and see who bought it first. If you weren’t the original owner and then sold it yourself, hopefully you can’t get told on far enough back in the chain of who all bought and sold it
So, its rules now from ATF, not laws from Congress? That rule making "company" should be dismentelled since they don't follow our constitution. Looking at history, this country was born from rebelling. What do the people do now when the government became too big and is now creating "rules" and not laws?
Thank you for doing what you guys do. I've been watching you guys since I was a kid, never had my dad around to teach me the things I've learned from your channel.
They already have the registry. They just have it set where it can't be searched by "Name, SSN or address" to keep it from being labeled as such. But make no mistake, it is a registry.
In Illinois the State Police have a gun registration scheme going under the guise of The FOID act. Every gunowner has to have a FOID (Firearms Owner ID) card to own or buy guns and ammunition. For Private in state sales The seller has to check with the state police to make sure the buyers FOID Card is valid and get an approval transaction number, then have to do the 72hr waiting period. Used to be 24hrs for long guns 72 for handguns but now it is 72hours for All guns. Soon ALL Private purchases will have to go through an FFL. Makes me sick and I hope it's struck down by the courts along with the BS Assault Weapons ban and mag capacity restrictions. The State will graciously allow us peeons to keep our scary guns and so called high capacity magazines and 50BMG rifles BUT they must be registered and cannot be transferred to anyone in state unless you die you can will it to an heir. You can sell it through an FFL Out of state if firearm is legal in that state. Large part of why I'm in process of selling my home and leaving the State. I put my effected firearms in secure storage at a gunshop in free state I'm moving to. The Gangbangers run around Chicago and the Suburbs with Switch equipped Glocks with extended magazines, Full auto AR and AK pistols and dont get charged any worse than they would with a regular firearm. Many get a damn I-Bond even with a record the size of a phonebook but us law abiding citizens are expected to fight off multiple criminals armed with full-auto firearms with full capacity mags with revolvers and double barrel shotguns.
It's said that politics make strange bedfellows. This is such a case. The Constitution does not stipulate privacy rights. They are inferred by some amendments. They have been implied by certain decisions. In the past half century, no decision more impacted and expanded privacy rights than Roe; and, also, no subsequent decision more negatively impacted and destroyed privacy rights than Dobbs. In one fell swoop, SCOTUS enabled any sitting administration to ignore privacy rights and intrude upon the sanctity of other Constitutionally-protected rights. That's why the VA can violate HIPAA and turn over medical information to NICS. That's why something like this may be enacted. For those, who for moral reasons, oppose choice, know that there's no way back to the privacy rights you enjoyed until Dobbs without overturning Dobbs; and while that decision ostensibly transferred decision making authority to the states, the federal government has superseding authority in areas not specified under the Tenth Amendment. Simply put, regardless of what authorities in your state may think about gun rights, because privacy rights have been cast into File 13, the federal government or an agency thereof may interfere with something which, by rights, they ought have no authority whatsoever to do. If you are Pro-Life, you should push for Pro-Life legislation, but legislating by the judiciary has opened a can of worms we may never be able to close again in our lifetimes.
For the majority of the nation's history, FFL's did not exist. The ATF pushing this rule through, will lead to challenges in court and my backfire on them dramatically. They may end up getting other laws ruled unconstitutional.
Bruen already ruled on what is unconstitutional. How many times do they have to rule on what they already ruled on? So existing laws are unconstitutional but still exist. Seems all these rulings from the courts mean little when there is no consequences for ignoring them.
All of my guns have veen transfered on 4473s but nonsense like this makes me want to start buying them through private transactions as well as making my own homemade firearms
They can make all the threats. It's laughable when criminals think they can create rules & laws against the free. It's now more than ever getting closer to using the cartridge box.
Make no mistake, this is absolutely happening. Too many good men have sat back and let this happen. We are all guilty, and it is going to sooner than later.
This is an easy one to bypass if it does become a rule. "I'm looking to sell my holster for $1,000. Once you buy the holster I'll give you a free 1911 as a complimentary gift."
This entire post sounds like a trap used by the ATF to see who actually bites on the chance to buy a gun if the individual isn't legal to buy any firearm anywhere in the US....
@johnqpublic2718 Is it really that hard to show your ID? You already have it on you and that's not restricting anything unless you aren't a legal citizen (which righfully so you shouldn't be able to get one unless you become a legal citizen) and just verify that you are of the state you reside and a US citizen that can enjoy our right to bear arms. That would be kind of contradicting to say "stricter borders so we can identify the people coming in" and "ID to vote" but no ID to buy a firearm that said illegal can just buy without effort and be a potential undocumented immigrant/terrorist. Until we get both of those issues resolved I ain't risking making a sale to anyone without proper Driver's License/ State ID of some sorts. Yes I know one is a right and the others are privileges but I don't see how just showing a ID that you already have for a private sale is restricting anything unless you are illegal...if anything it is helping us because now Anti-2A people can't use the excuse of "he bought it out of state and then shot up a place" like they try to say happens at gun shows.
@@dubjubsis it really that hard just to use ten round magazines? Is it really that hard to just not have pistols? Is it really that hard to get in the boxcar for your safety? Shall not be infringed.
So at the 6:10 mark, it still states that private sales are not required to be an ffl. So is this just another redundant "feel good" law that they want to pass?
No, it's a rule. The law has been on the books for decades, but they decided to change how they interpreted it in order prosecute people they don't like for a law they clearly didn't violate.
Eric, you know this isn’t gonna stop, no matter how much we say no they just keep doing what ever they want. They know how to try and kill the 2-A community. I’ve been blessed enough to take advantage of the deal PSA has going on. Hopefully soon I’ll be able to buy one of y’all’s builds. Great show.
Plan Carefully for and carry out "Dispersal of Assets". & spread the word across the Nation to all Firearms owners! This is Un-Constitutional and against Lawful Commerce among Private Citizens.
@Jason7.62x39 As do I - however consider and pass along my suggestion of "Dispersal of Assets". Millions of places to set up Cache and Re-Supply Points.
Saw tag line, thought "WT....?" Then realized seen Jared (Guns&Gadgets) talk about more overreach of The Sniffers further demonstrate contempt for USConstitution.
A rule which we will ignore, because it is Unconstitutional.
You're "free" to ignore it but the ATF won't ignore you. Neither will the DOJ, FBI, & all the other politicized agencies. Then what?
@@dansemacabre6515dude with all the stuff they're pulling I'm SURE the atf is taking applications.
The SAME government determines that 😂
@@DonnieDarko727if YOU wanna give them that power.
@@dansemacabre6515the you treat them the same as a home invader.
Yeah, I think the time for being “fair” and “nice” is rapidly coming to an end. Never has there been so much obvious bureaucratic corruption.
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We are slowly moving away from a generation trained from birth to vote a certain way. To another.
Folks in the 30s should have grew a spine and put their foot down.
They are Totalitarians trying to install us into a permanent one party state Dictatorship. Sooner people figure that out the better
@@Slay_No_More 30s was too late Federal Reserve act of 1913
ATF has no just power to rule over PRIVATE property. We do not relinquish our rights to bureaucrats.
amen brother. these ATF folk dont know what theyre dealing with
@@shadbanta14 they do, but they have orders from the top down. To be 100% real I'm sure most low level agents are gonna hate this because it makes their jobs harder.
Amen!!!
If they can put you in prison for the rest of your life over your private property, then yes, they do have the power unfortunately, don’t you get it
@heavenboundtrucker4444abs we will do nothing but pray to the Supreme Court
New rules are not new laws. Old rules are not old laws. RULES ARE NOT LAWS! The atf has no authority to make rules into laws. At this point the atf doesn't have any credibility.
Brother, they will still show up and push your shit in over these “rules.”
Yes, they kinda do have the power. You can thank the 13 republicans starting with John Cornyn that crafted a bill that could destroy our 2nd amendment.
And, *it's just a gift*
They've never had credibility. Their existence is an infringement.
But it TAKES Lots of money to Fight these Marxist Rules! Time to get in the fight!
They say they don’t want to come after our guns but when they’re in control, they sure do come after our guns.
Some government agency is always in control. More importantly it's what the law says with regard to the subject in question. And although it can be challenged it will almost certainly be at significant cost with the likelihood of a favoring outcome being doubtful.
We have the authority as the people, to forcefully remove these tyrants.
Didn’t the ATF lose its powers to pass rules though?
*boing*
That’s the fun part, it only stops till the ATF is converted into a connivence store. Or just completely abolished. Same with the NFA.
@@Butter_Warrior99I'm sure you would never go all the way and give up all your precious government. Anarchy! My heavens!
@@DonnieDarko727, No, just the existence of the current ATF, and the NFA should’ve been judged as unconstitutional. That’s why the fight doesn’t stop till the ATF is either reformed or abolished, and the NFA is as useful as toilet paper.
"The CONSTITUTION shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own ARMS. "
~Samuel Adams Massachusetts Ratifying Convention 1788
If we so cowardly allow such a thing, like an agency with no authority to pass "laws" or "ruled" that are clearly against the Law... then we would deserve it. Absolutely 100% we would deserve it. To obey an unjust "law" is to enforce an unjust "law" is to create an unjust "law" is to deserve an unjust "law". In the end, there is no one to blame, but ourselves. There is no tyranny in this nation that we do not Allow... and therefore, there is no tyranny in this nation that we do not deserve.
They are totally out of control.
*under control
Notice the strings in their backs 😉
When a rabid dog is out of control you put it down...
@@DronesUnder2A good point
Does ATF have authority to "pass" anything?
I thought they're a division of "enforcement"
What is going on in America?
This is the type of question we should be asking. Congress could hold them accountable, but they have abdicated their duties so they can find more time to get reelected and continue enriching themselves.
FJB, that's why.
@@ryanjones4917 Congress holds the purse strings, so I think they are in on it. To many worthless, all talk rhinos.
Fascists are running our country!
Nothing more than what is going on anywhere else in the world. Power does as power wills, it is up to rival power to stop them if they are able.
I guess they forgot that the Federal Government has no power over intrastate commerce. It's time for the ATF to become the agency that used to exist.
Good luck. That ship sailed long ago when they gave themselves that power and nullified the 10th through the Wickard SCOTUS case under FDR. Otherwise 98% of all "federal crimes" and arrests would be invalid
@@TheAsheybabe89What SCOTUS case are you referring to?
@@Hyperion656 Wickard v. Filburn. It'll make your blood boil to read it. In typical fashion, a judge with a predetermined decision used mental gymnastics to justify their decision and expand government power. They use it to this very day to claim that virtually everything falls under interstate commerce and is therefore subject to federal jurisdiction. Nothing gave the fed power like this, before or since. It destroyed the 10th even more than the Patriot Act destroyed the 4th.
@@Hyperion656Wickard v Filburn
@@Hyperion656
Wickard v Filburn
SCOTUS said the federal government could penalize an Ohio farmer, Rosco Filburn, for growing more wheat than he was allowed under FDR's Agricultural Adjustment Act(artificial scarcity to control prices). This was despite the extra wheat being for Filburn's personal use, mostly feeding his own livestock, and not in any way entering interstate commerce.
Its about time the people need to stand up to them enough is enough .
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Private sales are usually undocumented and undetected how will they find out that's the question
It's just another way to call for registration...... which the already have
@@raymondcbaker30 my guns aren't on their list, so, doesn't affect me lol
The ATF will bait someone at a gun show arrest them and make an example out of them. Fu?k the few intimidate the many. And the news will make sure it's televised over and over again.
Undercover buyers, similar to the way they trick guys looking for sex with minors (not to compare the two; selling a gun is not immoral, while raping minors is).
@@zadianvwhgamingMaybe you shouldn't admit that on social media.
One of the men that was supposed to replace the former ATF director. The first thing he wanted to do and this is said on Congress floor to Congress that he wanted to check criminal records that they have an arrest people for crimes that they think they're going to commit in the future.
I tried selling some stuff locally on Armslist through an FFL and you would not believe the number of people trying to get arms shipped to them out of state; it felt like it was full of ATF trying to get people to break the law.
That’s because it was.
You're allowed to sell firearms out of state private party. But it has to be transferred through an FFL. This has always been legal. People buy used guns on arms list from all over the country. If the firearm is legal to be sold in the state it can be sent there to be transferred through an FFL
I can believe it, it wasn’t like that a few years ago. I listed a rifle and a handgun where I foolishly copy pasted the rest of the description after the details about the rifle to save some time. I had noted in that listing that if the seller doesn’t want to use an FFL (legal in my state) I would be happy to see a carry permit and call that good. Private sales of long guns are legal in my state but not handguns. I had several people email me within hours of putting up the listing politely telling me what I already knew. I fixed the listing and ended up selling the pistol to a relative through my local ffl but if they wanted to try and get someone that would’ve been an obvious target.
That’s the 💩 they do, I had someone contact me out of state and ask if I could ship direct to his home because “private sales” are legal!?!
A lot of them were probably legit and just wanted to transfer it through an FFL which is legal. But a lot of them were probably felons trying to get around the system. While I am all for the 2nd amendment, I think you are right in this case. If you don't feel comfortable, don't do it. When selling a firearm, it's better to be overly cautious.
Love to know how they're planning on enforcing that aside from undercover.
The same as every other law.
This is directed not at psychopaths' and damaged individuals with no sense of consequence.
This is entirely about disarming those that feel their hard work and commitment to basic, Christian morality should entitle them to a say in the government that they fund and vote for.
There is a sickness that has grown up in our world. A sickness that would twist and call into question the very laws of nature and common sense.
These people at the height of power will criminalize the lawful while turning lose the criminal and lawless in the name of mercy and understanding.
Our neighbors will turn on us. They prepared it with the Wu Han bug.
That will be how they do it, they will start entrapping people with fake offers to buy and fake sales enmasse.
They think it's great PR
Sadly people snitch on their neighbors far more often than is ideal. . . .
Once the media machine starts "reporting" on all the busts being made, nationwide, people will be lining up to comply. An insanely large number of people, will fall in line and then, yes, the snitch's will help on the back end. It's already been proven, with other ATF over reach "rulings".
If this every sees the light of day then they will say that they need a registry to enforce it, and that's 3/4 of the way to their end goal of banning guns.
I will never comply. Use it or lose it.
Oh cmon already people ! When do we make it stop
This is ridiculous, when do we draw the line!
This administration has got to go.
To the gallows
" The CONSTITUTION of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their RIGHT and DUTY to be at All Times Armed. "
~Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Catwright June 5th 1824
So I'll give the gun away for free and sell something else to the buyer for the price of a gun. Making $1200 dollar on a holster is not a crime.
Buy this box for $400, and I'll throw in a pistol for free!
@@gregb6469I got around selling beer at a golf tournament once. Had to be 21 to buy a stick of gum, and they got a complimentary beer. Had zero problems.
This was one of the very best call to action videos of the year!
Remember that private sales staying legal was the compromise when they passed the brady act. No one can say the slippery slope isn't real because here is yet another example.
Let them try. The ATF will perform their own FAFO and won't be good for them
Dettelbach is just trying everything he can to get the atf neutered forever
Outstanding, Eric! I rarely hear such a level headed analysis of bureaucratic machinations as you have done. Keep up the good work.
Yeah right. Criminals are already clapping their hands. Criminal politicians that is!
Tell me this brother. How is the ATF going to enforce this new rule with private sales. There will be no way to regulate and/or know when a citizen decide to sell a firearm person to person and keep it off any open format.
This will stop all the illegal guns on the city streets! Great job atf the criminals are bound to follow this law
Ah bummer good thing it’s not in the atf’s scope of abilities to create laws
@JenkemODyour name is 😂😂😂
Bad thing that the ATF doesnt care about scope of abilities. They will shoot you and your dog because they have force of government behind them.
And to this day still no
The ATF actually said that it is illegal to celebrate any major holidays, They also stated that you should not drive a vehicle, They also said that you should worship their god of choosing, They also said you should turn in your neighbors.
Ok so what if you sell a used gun and don't make any profit? If they're going to require you to have an ffl then they need to give it to you for free.
f I gotta do all the bullshit then I should get the rights of one. Including transferrables and manufacturing of NFA items
Act accordingly.
Question.. How would the AFT know if I sold a gun for profit? And, first and foremost.. How would the AFT know I even sold a firearm?
By your own mouth, written records, or accessing your phone, Facebook, etc, where you might have slipped up and snitched on yourself. So.. the same ways that most modern "criminals" get got.
When they find someone else in possession of it and run the serial number and see who bought it first. If you weren’t the original owner and then sold it yourself, hopefully you can’t get told on far enough back in the chain of who all bought and sold it
If they violate your rights, you have the right to violate them
So when will it be viewed as acceptable to use the 2nd amendment on the ATF?
Remember that thing ranchers said about dealing with wolves?
That's the neat part, it already is when they are going against the constitution...
1934
@@Slay_No_More
I mean, I get what you're going for, but the ATF wasn't established until 1972 as a sub-division of the IRS.
@@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 thanks for translating my half baked ideas.
But how will the criminals get their guns!🤔
So, its rules now from ATF, not laws from Congress? That rule making "company" should be dismentelled since they don't follow our constitution. Looking at history, this country was born from rebelling. What do the people do now when the government became too big and is now creating "rules" and not laws?
Only way it works is a complete mandatory registration program. Compliance is doubtful!!!
I am so glad you're covering 2A news. Thank you. Cheers.
Well thank God ATF "rules" aren't laws. I forsee many more lawsuits in the future.
I'm not going to waste my time defending my rights. When I have never committed a crime. When the authority's can't say the same in all honesty.
Thank you for doing what you guys do. I've been watching you guys since I was a kid, never had my dad around to teach me the things I've learned from your channel.
The ATF seems to believe that their rules matter. Also, in order to inforce such a rule, they would need a registry which is illegal.
They already have the registry. They just have it set where it can't be searched by "Name, SSN or address" to keep it from being labeled as such. But make no mistake, it is a registry.
@@jbone6246 hence why they like showing up to people's doors unannounced after they buy firearms from things like gun auctions
Now that will surely stop them...............they wouldn't think of doing anything illegal.
Give them an inch to change some wording and they will take your rights away.
In Illinois the State Police have a gun registration scheme going under the guise of The FOID act. Every gunowner has to have a FOID (Firearms Owner ID) card to own or buy guns and ammunition. For Private in state sales The seller has to check with the state police to make sure the buyers FOID Card is valid and get an approval transaction number, then have to do the 72hr waiting period. Used to be 24hrs for long guns 72 for handguns but now it is 72hours for All guns. Soon ALL Private purchases will have to go through an FFL. Makes me sick and I hope it's struck down by the courts along with the BS Assault Weapons ban and mag capacity restrictions. The State will graciously allow us peeons to keep our scary guns and so called high capacity magazines and 50BMG rifles BUT they must be registered and cannot be transferred to anyone in state unless you die you can will it to an heir. You can sell it through an FFL Out of state if firearm is legal in that state. Large part of why I'm in process of selling my home and leaving the State. I put my effected firearms in secure storage at a gunshop in free state I'm moving to. The Gangbangers run around Chicago and the Suburbs with Switch equipped Glocks with extended magazines, Full auto AR and AK pistols and dont get charged any worse than they would with a regular firearm. Many get a damn I-Bond even with a record the size of a phonebook but us law abiding citizens are expected to fight off multiple criminals armed with full-auto firearms with full capacity mags with revolvers and double barrel shotguns.
Sounds unconstitutional as hell.
Unenforceable! If I bought a gun in 1999 and sold it yesterday ,how can they "PROVE" I didn't sell it in 2005 ??
I will be sure to follow the rule as stringently as any member of the ruling caste.
It's said that politics make strange bedfellows. This is such a case. The Constitution does not stipulate privacy rights. They are inferred by some amendments. They have been implied by certain decisions. In the past half century, no decision more impacted and expanded privacy rights than Roe; and, also, no subsequent decision more negatively impacted and destroyed privacy rights than Dobbs.
In one fell swoop, SCOTUS enabled any sitting administration to ignore privacy rights and intrude upon the sanctity of other Constitutionally-protected rights. That's why the VA can violate HIPAA and turn over medical information to NICS. That's why something like this may be enacted.
For those, who for moral reasons, oppose choice, know that there's no way back to the privacy rights you enjoyed until Dobbs without overturning Dobbs; and while that decision ostensibly transferred decision making authority to the states, the federal government has superseding authority in areas not specified under the Tenth Amendment.
Simply put, regardless of what authorities in your state may think about gun rights, because privacy rights have been cast into File 13, the federal government or an agency thereof may interfere with something which, by rights, they ought have no authority whatsoever to do.
If you are Pro-Life, you should push for Pro-Life legislation, but legislating by the judiciary has opened a can of worms we may never be able to close again in our lifetimes.
When is enough going to be ENOUGH?!
It will never be enough.
I've been reading the Bible, and it doesn't look good for the west.
@@dennislilly2818 the more time goes by the more I agree with that position.
For the Left, anything short of Big Brother-type control over the people is not enough.
It's been past time, but no one wants to be the first one to get Waco'd.
ATF has ZERO authority to make or ceate a law. Period.
America doesn't need a Gestapo
But we have one anyway.
Blue line gang and FBI have been with us for sometime 😅
But what about all the private sales that already took place?
For the majority of the nation's history, FFL's did not exist. The ATF pushing this rule through, will lead to challenges in court and my backfire on them dramatically. They may end up getting other laws ruled unconstitutional.
Bruen already ruled on what is unconstitutional. How many times do they have to rule on what they already ruled on? So existing laws are unconstitutional but still exist. Seems all these rulings from the courts mean little when there is no consequences for ignoring them.
of course they're at it again
Isn't this the same rationale the ATF used all those years ago to justify the assault at Waco? The agencies budget and relevance?
So ATF adapts a rule but no Congress law is in effect?
"I believe in taking the guns first and doing the due process second."
-Donald J Trump
Thank you for not shying away from bringing up past administrations
how would you prove a face 2 face sale happened after the ruling date?
the same way they do now .. internet spying
@@YonIon996 "Face to face" ... of course if it involves a politician it 2 faced by default . Meh // English
Great job, keeping us on our toes. Breaking these issues down makes it easy for more folks to understand what's going on.
If they can do this kind of bureaucratic nonsense, what's to stop them from a new "rule" to ban semi auto weapons or anything else they desire?
All of my guns have veen transfered on 4473s but nonsense like this makes me want to start buying them through private transactions as well as making my own homemade firearms
They can make all the threats. It's laughable when criminals think they can create rules & laws against the free. It's now more than ever getting closer to using the cartridge box.
How does that work for all the people not following gun laws in the first place. Get them before the law abiding citizens
So they're going to try to expose everyone privacy again
The atf does not have the authority to make laws. Take them to court if they try to take away your guns
This is what happens when you believe in the superstition of AUTHORITY. A limited government is just getting robbed a little less.
Make no mistake, this is absolutely happening. Too many good men have sat back and let this happen. We are all guilty, and it is going to sooner than later.
This is an easy one to bypass if it does become a rule. "I'm looking to sell my holster for $1,000. Once you buy the holster I'll give you a free 1911 as a complimentary gift."
This entire post sounds like a trap used by the ATF to see who actually bites on the chance to buy a gun if the individual isn't legal to buy any firearm anywhere in the US....
Afterwards, the Everytown idiots will want new laws that apply to accessories...
The key Word….RULE…Has the man stared, Rapidly!!!!
ATF is once again over reaching. They are making laws which is the job of Congress and not the ATF.
That is why; I give away all my useless and broken firearms as 'Parts'.
The ONLY rule there should be when selling a private firearm is that both parties should have a valid United States ID.
That’s It.
A passport, passport card, military ID, or federal LE credentials,? Because that's the only United States ID I know of.
No thanks - I don't need an ID to exercise my God-Given Right enumerated in the second amendment of the Bill of Rights
No. Wrong. There should be no infringements.
@johnqpublic2718 Is it really that hard to show your ID? You already have it on you and that's not restricting anything unless you aren't a legal citizen (which righfully so you shouldn't be able to get one unless you become a legal citizen) and just verify that you are of the state you reside and a US citizen that can enjoy our right to bear arms. That would be kind of contradicting to say "stricter borders so we can identify the people coming in" and "ID to vote" but no ID to buy a firearm that said illegal can just buy without effort and be a potential undocumented immigrant/terrorist. Until we get both of those issues resolved I ain't risking making a sale to anyone without proper Driver's License/ State ID of some sorts.
Yes I know one is a right and the others are privileges but I don't see how just showing a ID that you already have for a private sale is restricting anything unless you are illegal...if anything it is helping us because now Anti-2A people can't use the excuse of "he bought it out of state and then shot up a place" like they try to say happens at gun shows.
@@dubjubsis it really that hard just to use ten round magazines? Is it really that hard to just not have pistols? Is it really that hard to get in the boxcar for your safety? Shall not be infringed.
When they got rid of midwest gun trader i figured it was all down hill
Texas gun trader is still up thank gosh
@@UnknownUser-fe5zu -- Doesn't do me much good here in Missouri.
That will show all the criminals what for. They won't be able to transfer firearms to one another anymore. Why didn't anyone think of this sooner. 😒
The scope of this and the financial aspect bugs me more than if it was strictly stating everything goes through an FFL.
Atf doesn't tell me what to do
So at the 6:10 mark, it still states that private sales are not required to be an ffl.
So is this just another redundant "feel good" law that they want to pass?
No, it's a rule. The law has been on the books for decades, but they decided to change how they interpreted it in order prosecute people they don't like for a law they clearly didn't violate.
Minnesota just passed this rule that there is no more private sales and estate inheritance except through an ffl .
By that logic they’re gonna have to shut down Facebook been in several groups in my local area on FB where we ‘talk’ about ‘props’ for years
Washington State has already made it unlawful to transfer ownership of semiautomatic rifles.
Isn't centralization grand? Yay for federalism
Shall not be infringed.
Eric, you know this isn’t gonna stop, no matter how much we say no they just keep doing what ever they want. They know how to try and kill the 2-A community. I’ve been blessed enough to take advantage of the deal PSA has going on. Hopefully soon I’ll be able to buy one of y’all’s builds. Great show.
Isn't this legislative? I feel like the 5th Circuit just answered this question.
the ATF thinks that older guns increase in value. Apparently they don't understand inflation.
Good luck with enforcing this law and finding who is breaking it.
Thank you Eric.
The ATF is law ENFORCEMENT, a “rule” that they make up isn’t a law. You can’t enforce a law that doesn’t exist.
Want to bet?
@@garyh1449 they will try to enforce it but they have no legal bounds to do so
@@WillE454 Which is the point I was making.
"Biden will call upon the ATF to create a new rule...." because that is working out so well the first time around?
If this goes thru I'm going to guess its going to raise prices of guns like crazy
Oh no, the black market is gonna have to close its firearms department. 😂😂😂
Plan Carefully for and carry out "Dispersal of Assets". & spread the word across the Nation to all Firearms owners! This is Un-Constitutional and against Lawful Commerce among Private Citizens.
@Jason7.62x39 As do I - however consider and pass along my suggestion of "Dispersal of Assets". Millions of places to set up Cache and Re-Supply Points.
I just passed a rule banning atf agents from owning skin.
Since when does the ATF pass laws/rules? As far as I'm aware thats strictly the purview of congress?
Well, democrats just override all that and couldn't care less....
Do they know they can't create rules..WTF !
Saw tag line, thought "WT....?" Then realized seen Jared (Guns&Gadgets) talk about more overreach of The Sniffers further demonstrate contempt for USConstitution.
John is great!
How the hell is the atf even going to enforce that? 😂
The same way feds/Leos catch drug dealers.
@Jason7.62x39 you can't regulate privare cash transactions haha
A registry, obviously. One they will be passing legislation enacting any day now...