Documents Prove ATF's Flip-Flops on NFA Definitions
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In this video, Eric discusses the recent update in the AutoKeyCard case and new documents exposed in a FOIA request by @GunOwnersofAmerica that show that the ATF continues to make up the rules as they go.
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Secure our border, protect us from foreign enemies and keep our interstates up and running these are what we need a federal government for. Cut all these regulatory agencies that have weaponized against our citizens.
Funny that America existed before the federal government. The feds ARE the foreign enemies.
Perfectly put, fed govs job is to defend and secure the nation. Everything else falls upon the states. Which means we need to streamline it by cutting by 80%.
We don't need the feds for shit everything managed privately works nothing the federal government builds maintains or manages works. The feds are illegitimate anyway and installed by a dictatorship under the banner of the union.
>Gubment cause of problems
>Gubment solution to problems caused by gubment
Pick one.
They are acting as another legislative (and executive) branch.
The process is the punishment.
Yes, and the process is meant to cave you to a plea deal where you get to say you're "guilty" of doing something you didn't in return for being able to keep your home, and they get to put another "conviction" notch on their belt.
Scummiest deal ever.
So basically they can determine you are a criminal based on a whim that changes daily.
Been that way for a long time. Inevitable outcome of the state grabbing at power.
Based on political affiliation. Just like the DAs bought by old George S0r0s.
So basically, they can go 4nicate themselves.
At this point, everyone is one accusation away from losing our houses, land, and firearms.
Now you get it 😂
I'm a retired Federal regulatory technical writer. This all is so insane.
You wrote federal twice
@@xaagripha7326 He did? Where?
@@darksu6947 r/woooosh
All three branches of gov are insane.
@@ToxicSocietyTrollnot all some are really fighting for the rights I’ve been watching a lot of hearings but it’s hard to get things past cause these democrats have been hard on budging and the right needs 60 votes in the senate to pass anything and if that happens biden wouldn’t sign it at all so it’s hard with some of the govt we need a majority in the house 60 in senate and a conservative president like trump or DeSantis I’m pretty sure they would sign anything hopefully
Same with pistol braces. ATF for a decade said they were legal, no problem, go ahead and buy them. Then, all of a sudden, they make your pistol an SBR. Totally insane.
Bottom line is when someone like Matt Hoover who connects with alot of people because hes just a common person like most of us gets the ATF butthurt it doesn't matter that they beat him in court. They just want to hurt him financially and make it as difficult as they can for him to fight. That is the punishment. We all have the right to speak out when we see injustice like with the ATF. But with someone like Matt, its about his outspokenness and influence. They've got way too much power to hurt people when their feelings get hurt. The worst part is they are punishing people's families also by doing this. This tactic of just trying to ruin someone financially and make life difficult for them hurts their families as well. I've talked to Matt. He is a good and honest man trying to do well for his family. That is his main objective and the ATF has punished his family by purposely disrupting his ability to do that.
They won’t be around much longer when that pistol brace “rule” finalizes their lives will expire. I can’t imagine the 40+ million new felons about to be made will take it too kindly having their property seized and life ruined with a felony for something they purchased legal some of which have been owned for a decade.
Truth!
THIS COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's blatant abuse of the justice system. 100% abusive, 100% predatory.
One would think there would be laws against this type of practice. Particularly because the intent is so clear. Whatever Federal Prosecutor willingly took this case should face disbarment.
The auto key card should have been thrown out on the grounds it violates the 1st amendment period. The ATF has no statuary to regulate PICTURES
I've never met anyone in power who didn't abuse it. At least in the government sector. That's why the Bill of Rights was a measuring stick, saying if any of these are being violated, your government is corrupt and should be replaced. Hopefully, they'll allow that by peaceable means.
CRS firearms will most likely win, he says it's going well. 100% support him
What happened to him is BS. The process is the punishment. They know it. There is zero accountability to stop this abuse.
At it's heart it's a first amendment issue. You can draw what you want.
@@DavidA20200 Bullets.
@@DavidA20200 100% correct!
Once they win, they need to counter sue for damages
Re Matt Hoover, his case smacks of entrapment. They told him the cards were legal, then they say it isn't . Case should NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT.
ATF's existence is unnecessary, and its functions could be handled by other agencies.
It's functions are 95% unconstitutional. But sure, the Infernal Revenue "Service" could handle the alcohol and tobacco.
Your speech on what's going on politically is spot on Eric. I couldn't agree more!
I don't remember who said it. But years ago I heard "that the accusation was the punishment".
Going to court, spending $$ that you don't have, to fight BS charges, all so you go bankrupt, and you don't dare go against the system again.
Yup
If anything that would make me want to go scorched earth on the system
The process is the punishment. Defending yourself, even when the charges are clearly ridiculous, costs enough to ruin most people.
There's ONLY a tiny percent because if you lose your fight with the Federal Gov't, you STILL owe your fines etc PLUS your lawyer fees which can cost a FORTUNE to set the new precedent.
Exactly; the process is the punishment. We need to do something to stop this kind of wild abuse of our legal system.
We absolutely need to keep crowd funding these fights, but there's only so many lawyers and so much money and it should be criminal that we have to expend such efforts to defend ourselves against blatent abuses by our own government.
I'm disappointed that very few "2A" gun channels are covering this trial AT ALL and even more disappointed that at least ONE of them (especially those from nearby states, like GEORGIA) couldn't make the trip to Jacksonville, FL to be present for the trial and give the 2A community man-on-the-scene reports.
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This is the true travisty. Those in the culture and community unwilling to support this man by even speaking with him about this whole debacle. They all know about it, then hound us for not "doing out part".
I stop in the CRS and leave money when I can.
This is intimidation under the color of law. The mere threat of POTENTIAL criminal charges is what the ATF is after, essentially sending the message, "Don't f*ck with us, or we'll ruin your life."
It’s like Matthew Hoover said in one of his videos: the process is the punishment. The Government chose to hold the trial in Jacksonville, FL to inflict as much damage and inconvenience as possible. Good on him for standing up and taking them on, because they stacked the deck against him to try and get a plea deal out of it.
Kind of old news. This information was used in CRS motion to dismiss months ago, but was ignored by the so called "judge". But maybe some folks missed it, so I guess it's good to keep it circulating. Thanks 👍
The Jury was probably intimidated just by being selected. "We know who you are,and we want a conviction."
And they were found guilty. It's unbelievable. How much longer are we standing for this?
Thanks again Eric you do so much for us out here half the crap you bring up I would never have known. God bless and stay safe
Two days later, the atf claim they don't have to prove that an auto key card can be made into a machine gun, and the judge allows it.
They talked about the pistol grip brace today in court when a witness brought up the looming ATF change. It was good because that same witness talked about how it's hard when you buy something when it's legal and then later it becomes illegal.
This is NOT intent of law. I am so disgusted & discouraged & annoyed & aggravated with our ATF & FBI in this country. Also sick of corrupt courts.
Our rights are up for debate depending on who is in office, and who is in the majority along with the whims of the bureaucracies, not based on the Constitution.
I’ve been following this form the beginning when I almost ordered a key card myself , CRS did nothing wrong he’s been Shanghai’d since the get. Hope he comes out on too , most likely he will 😊
I ordered one, but the USPS tracking stopped updating. A few days later, the tracking ID became invalid. Presumably, the post office intercepted it.
I plan on billing them for it when the ATF loses this case.
You are a great patriot, and thank you for sharing the truth about others!
Thanks for the shout out Eric! Say hello to Brandy!
The day ATF shuts down I will open a convenience store with the same name and uniform
Right on point. Nice job Eric.
This is absolutely insane that a drawing on metal is a machine gun.
FREE MATTHEW HOOVER!!
Imprison the ATF agents, the prosecutor, AND the Judge.
FREE JUSTIN ERVIN TOO! (site owner of auto key card.)
Well, it's possible that another angle is also in play. You have folks in agencies like this that live to make a charge. There productivity and the recognition it brings are the drug. If it gets dismissed in court, so what............ So wrong, but so true.
Thats just it. The hut hut boys like to get out their hut hut toys and go make hut hut noise.
Interesting topic, IV8888! Keep on truckin’🇵🇷💪🏻
Thanks for using your Channel to promote this trial!
Corruption no other words for it
If the ATF Field Office Agents said the item was legal, the Charges are now Entrapment which is Banned by the FedGov and previous case precedents. The prosecutors in this need to be disbarred for a whole host of reasons.
Can you imagine being the judge and thinking we're going to put this guy in prison for a drawing what if somebody sold a drawing of the atomic bomb is he guilty of selling a nuclear device
Yea such a travesty that these folks lives are forever changed because of BS like this. Not to mention all of the tax dollars are being wasted away in court.
The ATF takes the shoot first determine guilt of the destroyed later and just say oops. They ruin innocent lives and face no consequences for their actions.
Brother you nailed it! Thanks...
You can’t punch out the lightning links on the auto keycard it’s just a design etched on it. You would have to perform multiple operations in order for it to be usable.
I do not believe the material composition and thickness would allow it to work at all.
As I understand it, the manufature of the cards selected the thickness based on their own laser technician's opinion about what would look good.
@@2Truth4Liberty that’s also interesting, I hadn’t heard that. So it’s less of a machine gun than the steel card bottle opener in my wallet…
A person capable of turning that card into a lighting link would just make one from stock .
@@2Truth4Liberty Yep, I was looking at the specs the other day. The card is too thick for it to work and I bet it's been brought up in court which is why the prosecutor is just trying to get Matt and Justin thrown in prison.
Well said, I agree whole heartedly. It's not about breaking gun laws, it's about ruining someone who don't share their extremists views. It's not so much about gun control, it's about total control.
Dude, your coverage of all of these guns rights issues is awesome! Thanks for keeping up with this stuff for us that love the our Country and the U.S. Constitution!
This should be grounds for the defense to move for a dismissal
Please explain to me how showing the Auto Key Card in this video is any different to what Matt Hoover (CRS Firearms) did?
It's not, that's the point.
With this degree of incompetence coming from our government, there really should be some laws to protect people being maliciously prosecuted. When people beat cases like this, they should be able to sue to be reimbursed for their legal expenses, and that should come from the budget of the dept wasting time trying to convict people like Mr. Hoover on cases like this.
The F in the BATF ! I hope all this overreach ends up disbanding the unconstitutional bureau.
And you wait until the end of it to stick up for them!!
Excellent 👍 thank you
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for keeping us all in the loop John.
I want to puke... this is insane!
45 years in prison unacceptable
"Show the man, I'll find the crime".
Nearly where we are at.
They got convicted which is worrying for many legal reasons. This stretch os the interpretation of the law is very scary.
From what I can determine, the parts of the Lightning Link do not "punch out" of the card. They are just etched lines. A diagram, drawing, nothing more.
More than that, they have to be shaped and bent, too. That whole case is a massive violation of the First Amendment.
the biggest issue with the lightning link is that it requires an SP1 style BCG which arent made anymore. you would then have to modify a standard BCG for it all to function correctly.
Its a legal form of harassment. We, as people, need to have the ability to counter sue the individuals who are making the decision to prosecute unjustly .
Hide yo dogs hide yo wife hide yo kids!
The best course of action is to repeal or nullify the NFA; either judicially(preferred) or legislatively.
Good info. Thanks for sharing
You got that Left v Right 💩 right..they just Can't be Fair..🤬🤬
You can not punch out any thing of the auto key card period!!!
Cough Biden Cough. Cough Pelosi Cough. Cough Hunter Cough. Excuse my horrible cough.
People need to start calling on Florida's governor to pardon these Guys
They are going after little businesses to get precedents set to be used later against bigger businesses.
Sounds like ENTRAPMENT to me. 😬🤢
God bless GOA!
I'm here at this video after I heard he was found guilty. Knowledge is power and its clear the people at the top will do anything to suppress and maintain it. Wonder how much money the jury received to trample on the 1st and 2nd amendments.
Haven’t you heard the saying, “ The Process IS the Punishment “???
It is all so ridiculous, there are drawings and specs in the public domain that would allow anyone willing to make an AR fully automatic, and it isn't really that difficult, I even heard that there are people that have used a simple piece of coat hanger as a makeshift seer. So is the AFT going to arrest and prosecute anyone that has a metal coat hanger as owning a "machinegun" ???
The ATF needs to be abolished.
We are all needing to support Matt and his family now. And this deserves our protest and process to help appeal these decisions. We just need a time and place. Let’s keep this going for our rights and freedoms. Because if Baldwin can get off on Murder and Matt is in process for a victimless crime we are all witnessing injustice.?
Thanks for all you do, Eric. Everyone here should join GOA.
True, they know they will lose, but destroy a person on the process. Same as they did to Gibson guitars ...
PREACH IT!
The auto key card cut out will not function as a machine gun.
Has everyone just forgotten about the pistol brace bull crap? What's going on with that?
Laws should automatically be nullified if they are so ambiguous that the regulating agency can't even agree on the law. There also needs to be penalties for agencies who arrest people under these ambiguous laws. The laws are already written to punish people before they're even found guilty. We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but then the minute charges are brought against you, everything is stacked against you. It never should have gotten to this point but we need to change the way we look at things. We need to start treating people as innocent until they plead guilty or are found guilty.
The process is the punishment...
When it comes to these alphabet agencies, the process is the punishment.
I think there needs to be a law anytime the government brings charges against someone and they are found not guilty they should have to reimburse all costs
They don't care because it's not their money they're spending. It would help their victims a little, but it's just more money wasted.
The real solution is to get rid of all the laws that criminalize victimless behaviors. The litmus test for determining whether a politician is a good person or not is whether they're trying to pass even more laws or trying to get rid of the ridiculous laws we already have. Please take note that neither of the major parties have anyone doing this.
I have been thinking of finding a to scale pic of the autokeycard and get it tattooed. Someone could trace my tatt and possibly use it to make it...Would that make ME a machine gun?
Just get it tattooed smaller than it should be, then exercise a little until it stretches to the right size. Your tattoo malfunctioned into dimension, it wasn’t designed that way.
My intent is to make people think about it. Imagine ATF trying to classify a human as a machine gun.
@@Badboy7357 indeed. It isn’t even an unrealistic joke at this point. It’s worth considering the possibility.
That's just it, these days the process IS the punishment. They don't care, they effectively have unlimited funds and resources to go after you. And if they lose, it doesn't matter, it wasn't their money anyway. They know at that point there's nothing you can do. Lawsuits aimed at them rarely win, if the person bringing them can even afford to do it in the first place, after being financially wiped out from the failed prosecution.
May god help these two men!!! Cuz lord knows the ATF/federal government hasn’t!!!
As many times as I have seen the auto-key-card, posted on several TH-cam channels it so easy to reproduce this auto key card. I have no doubt thousands of Americans have reproduced the card on paper and of course aluminum can be accessed by anyone. The ATF has far exceeded their authority on this and many other things.
One day the atf will call a civil war musket a machine gun watch
It's a gun and the trigger mechanism is a machine. It's a machine gun!
Great video.
amen brother!
The ATF, under the direction of whatever administration is in power, changes the classification of items, sometimes in direct contradiction of the letter of the law. The ATF is an enforcement agency not law makers. Under the direction of Donald Trump, the ATF reclassified the bump-fire stock as a machine gun, with no legislative action and no judicial action. Bump-fire stocks were then confiscated by the governement with no judicial process and no compensation, in direct violation of the 4th amendement. Trump did more to confiscate what had been legal weapons than any president in my lifetime. Even Clinton and the assault weapons band didn't confiscate guns or property without due process. No one is above the law! Including Trump, the ATF and every single government official. This is not a left vs right issue, it's an issue of governement abuse of power.
They sure seem to think and act like they are the legislative branch, dont they?!
Underrated comment here. Nothing will get better until we all recognize that both parties are the problem.
They know that just charging you will bankrupt you.
You want a narrator?? 😂 I can read a paragraph ahead and discuss the topic at the same time I’m reading it and a full paragraph ahead. I’m a great narrator and would absolutely do this free for you! I’m blessed with a social personality
They should get damages for having to put up with this
It's like you're describing the Civil War against regular people.....
So guilty until proven innocent yet again
Thanks
If found innocent, lawsuits
If Matt never made that _Coat-hanger Machine gun_ video, the ATF probably would of left him alone, maybe a warning given. But that's not the Matt we know and love. I support him and hope he wins his case.
This whole mess is the real-life version of the stoning scene from "Life of Brian": Matt was imprisoned for saying the wrong word.
I swear I remember this going thru the news /court back in the mid eighties early nineties didn’t they settle this wasn’t a machine gun or am I remembering that wrong
Abolish the ATF!
I see what you are saying for sure but I still had to say, 'I miss Barry'. No joke, in his world this crap did not happen. As it is I appreciate what you are saying. Keep on keeping on friend. We support you. God bless you and yours!
Honestly I wouldn’t have wanted to see Barry experience the total erosion of our liberties that we are seeing every day.