The fact that it has haunted you for years shows that your conscience was telling you all a long. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples , if ye have love one to another. ( John 13 :35 ) You served your country, not God. Be honest. Get over it.
I had no idea that the word was supposed to be "murder" and not "kill". That clarifies a lot. Thank you for the video. Also, you remind me of Christopher Lambert :) God bless you.
@TCT it’s about intention. If you shot someone because you hate them that is murder. If you shot someone to protect your family you wouldn’t be murdering them. You would kill them yes but it would be out of protection not anger.
@@winolowardichelli2850 You're correct, the Spirit of God is speaking discernment to you. If you click *reply* you'll get to the presentation and my comment is under John Sheffield. One of the top entries right now at 2:00 pm.
@@chaselittle2601 Either way, you have failed to "Love your enemy" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers. So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them.
You have just spoken the exact same words of the most famous anime ever created 😁 the android says the exact same thing before dying to one of the villains, what you said reminded me of this scene th-cam.com/video/dcSWlET_qpI/w-d-xo.html I'm tired of people who think being a Christian means watching love ones get raped, or murdered or hurt, yes we are supposed to love our enemies but loving your enemies doesn't mean you allow them to destory life and commit unthinkable atrocities! Too many people are unwilling to stop evil and think evil is just going to stop it self! How foolish! If there was no cops or militaries to stop evil then evil would ultimately win! But our Lord Jesus is going to come back and defeat evil, until then WE have a responsibility to preach and spread his word, warn others to turn from their sin and to protect life! Jesus is the one who said to sell your cloak for a sword! Jesus is the one who had disciple's and apsotles who had swords around him! People think just because Jesus told Peter not to attack the person who's ear he cut off means Jesus is telling is just to let evil win! That is non sense! Jesus specifically told him not to do it because Peter was interfering with what Jesus came on the Earth to do! Which was die and be a sacrafice for the sins of the world! Jesus could at any time protect himself if he needed or wanted, he doesn't need our human help to defend him He told Peter to stop because he HAD to go die on the cross for the purpose he was sent! Jesus had plenty of times to tell his apsotles to not carry swords when they had them, instead he told people to BUY swords Well swords aren't for chopping carrots!!! Although you could! It's obvious they are for self defense and to PROTECT life People get too confused because of the "love your enemies" and "turn the other cheek" Yes, we are to love our enemies and not repay evil with evil That's the point! Defending LIFE isn't evil! So it's not repaying evil WITH evil! It's repaying evil with JUSTICE and holding people accountable for their rape, for their robbery, for their murder! Christians who take that weak view need to wake up! If we went ahead and let evil do as it pleases and had no cops, no military and no justice or accountability then evil people would DESTROY all life! Of course Jesus is going to come back and finish it But we are CONTAINING it and fighting it as best we can UNTIL that time comes! There is a difference between fighting for the right cause as you said and just stealing land for oil! We have a RIGHT to DEFEND our life and protect it! It's non sense to think that is Christians are to sit back and watch life and loved ones get violated and destoryed! Sole Christians need to RETHINK their logic, I know some mean well but they are wrong Jesus had all the many moments to address his apsotles carrying swords and Jesus himself told people to BUY swords! What, do you guys think Jesus told them to sell their cloak and buy swords just to have them sit on shelves or to chop carrots with them? Give me a break We are to DEFEND and PROTECT life and uphold JUSTICE
@RENE OBELE The Bible says that all the governing authorities on earth are subject to God's law whether they acknowledge Him or not, they're still subject to the eternal moral law. The Bible also says that authorities wield the power to kill evil doers for the good of society and to see that evil is punished. The authorities are supposed to praise those who do justice, good and righteousness in the lands and make an example of those who wilfully pursue evil, including putting them to death. It also covers the use of military force to prevent evil running rampant. Now, if you joined up and went into a military conflict with a clear conscience that you were doing the right thing but later on it became known to you that it was all a lie, that is not something that would be held against you. However if you're given an order to obey that is *unlawful* (contradicts God's law) then you are to do what's right and disobey that order. Also, if you went into an armed conflict knowing full well that it was a great evil you were doing but you still went anyway, then that is also wrong. The Bible speaks a lot about how authorities are supposed to act and the subjects below them who also keep order (police, army etc.). It is because the nation's and individuals themselves reject God's eternal moral law that we see no end to corruption in these systems.
@RENE OBELE Well that would be wrong if you know you are taking innocent lives, I don't think you needed to ask that, obviously if someone gives you a command to do wrong you should disobey it, if a cop or military person follows through with a order they know is wrong then obviously they have sinned In the video I think he was talking about soldiers who are following non sinful orders Defending our nation isn't sinful and stopping evil isn't sinful But yes you would be right, if me and you was ordered to take land away from people and take a country over just because we want their stuff then obviously that would be sinful and we have done wrong
well, it wasn't really a debate, was it? and I don't really think your joke with words works, as per the definition of murder and kill in johns video, he did in fact murder this debate, as he deliberately did it lol
@Princess Lea the right cause has nothing to do with ptsd. That was a very ignorant statement, my buddy said he once saw a dog carrying someones head overseas and eating it. That shit alone can cause ptsd and has nothing to do with morals.
Hey brother. This is a great resource video. I had this question from a military man while I was street preaching a couple of days ago and now I have an excellent answer if it comes up again. Keep serving the Lord!
What happened in the Old Testament when Almighty God Himself ordered and watched over His nation Israel, and when He commanded wicked nations to be totally destroyed for their corruption and evils ways, has nothing to do with our Christian era. Almighty God is calling out for the future rulership of the world a body of "Kings and priests" who are to rule the nations of the world with Christ for a 1,000 years. And our commanding officer, the Lord Christ, has instructed that we do not harm other humans in this present "Dispensation of Grace". But are to control our corrupted human nature and submit to his commands and those of his personally ordained Apostles. For this is a life of probation to see if we are fit and aspire to be faithfully obedient, and so be granted an entrance into Christ's coming Kingdom. For before a man is fit to rule over and control others, he first has to learn to rule over and control himself, and faithfully submit to the higher authority above him, which in the case of the Elect, is Jesus Christ and his Father, Almighty God.
The government will forgive for your sins .... but God won't . You are following the governments laws not Gods , and we know how honest the government is ........ Jew's will justify going to war buy any mean's
Most wars don't happen for righteous reasons, most wars happen for selfish reasons usually to do with economics so being a soldier and an enforcer for a small elite isn't moral.
Ephesians chapter 6 verse 12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. One more thing Jesus Christ said love your enemies and pray for them which persecute you.
God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow, there is a time for war and a time for healing. It’s only because of men and women who defended the western world are you even able to post comments like you are. Is it wrong that we fought the Nazis in world war ?
When a born again Christian from one country kills another born again Christian from another country....which one is doing right in the eyes of God? And then ultimately when they are both in heaven....are they separated by nationalism/allegiance to country there too? Asking for a friend.
If we're supposed to be ambassadors, For Christ... As Christians, I don't think any of us should be killing anyone, For any reason. Love your enemies, As yourself! For me, to live is Christ, and To die is gain.(Phil 1:21)(Matt 5:21, 38-39, 43-44)(Matt 10:28)(Hebrews 10:30)(NKJV) Ask yourself this question: Am l a follower of Jesus? ...or just a fan of Him?(Matt 4:19)(NKJV) ...WWJD?
Soldiers , must never harm, molest, kill or use violence as is commanded of them. "14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages." Luke 3:13-14 (KJV)
@@abrandpluckedoutofthefire8043 "14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages." Luke 3:13-14 (KJV) And Christ forbids using violence or harming another human being even in defence of self or others. "38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also". Matt 5:38-40 (KJV)
When did jesus kill someone? Oh thats right. The only time he even laid hands on someone was when he healed somone. Again those who live by the sword die by the sword. In case its not clear Ezekiel 3:18 KJV When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Genesis chapter 9 verse 5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). The Role Triangle of Victim Villain and Hero is One of the Most Dangerous Social Dynamics in Existence take for (ex) the Christian Soldier He has Grown Up with the Understanding Thou Shall Not Kill but the Minute He Decides that Something is a Threat to His Country Suddenly Kill is Not Only Ok It Makes Him A Hero
Either way, people would have failed to "Love thine enemies" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers. So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them.
@@MinhNguyen-pk9qk last I checked turning the other check meant more to not retaliate after being insulted. (I’m guessing mainly verbally insulted) Imo, if you or someone else is being attacked physically or sexually you should take action without hesitation.
@@ewankerr3011 "Love always protects". Sometimes people give you no option but to fight to protect what you love. Those people don't just "accidently" become a threat. They choose to hurt and kill others. It's also a sin to be a coward.
One cannot be loving their enemies by killing them.....can they? Christ commands we love them, thus it is impossible to kill them and then declare on Judgment Day that we loved them.
So if your “enemy” is attempting to kill your spouse or children do you just let them, and declare on Judgement Day that you loved your spouse and children?
@@coltonburns2190 stated "So if your “enemy” is attempting to kill your spouse or children do you just let them" In obedience to what the Truth instructs. "36 Even as it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter". Romans 8:36 (ASV) Colton further stated, " and declare on Judgement Day that you loved your spouse and children?" Christ will know already and great will be your reward for loving him unto death. "Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death". Revelation 2:10-11 (KJV) Hallelujah!
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 “And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”” Luke 22:35-38 ESV Why would Christ tell His disciples to buy swords if He didn’t intend them to defend themselves, their property or someone else?
Not protecting your family is a sin. When you allow someone to get murder your an accomplice to murder. Seeing evil and saying or doing nothing is the same as committing the sin.
I feel like this is a very dangerous thought process...This could well have many people thinking that they should be killing others because state 'authority' tells them to. That the line between killing and murder is made clear when certain individuals with power draw it themselves. That murder is a crime of passion like breaking into someones home and stabbing them to death, but killing is invading someones country and stabbing them to death...It just leaves much too much room for ambiguity and interpretation between what is or is not valid cause for killing versus murder...Also, saying that god ordered the deaths of entire nations, thereby setting the precedent for human slaughter en masse is hardly comforting.
God is the ruler of life AND death. He created kittens who will rip a baby bunny rabbit apart while they are alive. That is called torture. In nature the weakest animals/humans will die. There has to be some scale of that working in the territorial warfare that every single country is involved with. And not every man out there willing to sacrifice their lives to protect people is satanic. I’d say it’s the other way around and god understands that some have to be the ones to sacrifice. Do you think lions or bears (the kings of nature) go to hell for killing other animals to survive? It’s just a bigger scale of that. God knows your heart and if you actually want to kill people then ya you’re probably screwed if you don’t repent and work on that issue, but most people in the military are just trying to get strong and be prepared to protect their families and other people. I’d say all soldiers go to heaven, if they have good hearts. Kinda like how all dogs go to heaven and yes they are murderers. Christians over think everything. There are primal human instincts we are still animals at the end of the day and our systems are not perfect because man isn’t perfect. National defense is still needed and warriors are being called and in my opinion a soldier of god would be the only good person to fill those shoes
@@Phoenix-tq8lt Nowhere in the Bible does it say that we'll see animals in Heaven, and before you say "we're animals", we're not. We didn't evolve from apes God made us in His image, nothing else did He make like that.
The problem is as the world plunges in sin, the line between murder and justified killing is blurred. The way I see it, it's our place to study scripture and put our faith in our God. His word is our sword, and the faith is our shield. What is the proper reason to kill in war? For God? Land? Resources? God is good because even if you commit such a sin, he forgives. And that's enough to put my mind at ease on the issue
Exodus 22:2 New King James Version (NKJV) 2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. Luke 22:36-38 New King James Version (NKJV) 36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” 38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough - The Bible clearly gives examples of killing that is done in self defense or to protect life and it being justified and NOT the same as murder, the first Bible verse was VERY clear on that - Jesus told people to BUY swords and no they are no FAKE, a prime example is when Peter chopper a guys ear off proving they had REAL swords - Being that Jesus's apostles and followers had swords as some were even soldiers, Jesus could have told them at any time to stop carrying swords around, the fact that he never did shows clearly Jesus did NOT have a problem with people having swords - A common misunderstanding is people using the ONE example and ONE time where Jesus told Peter not to continue to fight the people capturing Jesus with his sword But if you read IN CONTEXT and understand that Jesus's entire purpose was to die on the cross as a sacrafice you will realize that Jesus stopped him NOT because it was wrong to protect others but because Peter was STOPPING the fulfillment of what Jesus had to fulfill which was him being captured and taken to die on the cross for our sins The Bible itself is full of rulers and kings and armies and soldiers God himself USED armies to kill and take life AS JUDGEMENTS Please read in context and use COMMON SENSE We were given dominion over the Earth and Animals and life, not to destory it but to use and protect it and multiply the Earth God APPOINTED JUDGES and there is an entire book in the Bible called JUDGES! If we did not have cops, militaries and protectors of life then evil WOULD win Cowards will NOT enter Gods kingdom the Bible says Watching your loved ones get hurt and violated and murdered is COWARDLY! Yes we are to love our enemies, however THEY choose the consequences for their actions It's not EVIL to stop a murderer or rapist! And it's not repaying evil with evil because used your HEADS, the person stopping evil isn't comitting EVIL! You have a God given right to protect YOURSELF and OTHERS! This is different than taking life for no reason which is unjustified which is called MURDER! Killing and MURDER IS different! Please read the Bible in context and use the common sense God gave you Anyone who would watch another person be raped or murdered having the means to stop them but does not is a COWARD and EVIL Watching it happened and not stopping it is MORE evil as you know what is right and failed to do it! God bless you all And for those of you who took a different stance, please wake up and realize you are need to change your mind and use COMMON SENSE If you believe that nobody is ever JUSTIFIED to kill then go live in another country or place where there are no laws or cops! Hypocrites! You say it is unjustified but live in a country where you are safe because God has given you law enforcement and a military to have your back and protect you! Hypocrites, go live in a place where there are not cops or laws then and let's see you live it out! How foolish We are image bearers of God! We aught to hold people accountable and uphold JUSTICE just as he does! This doesn't mean we are taking his place! He is the ultimate judge! But until Jesus returns we are JUSTIFIED to defend lives even if we HAVE to use for and kill to do it! Please learn the difference between killing and murder! If we are unloving because we kill to save lives then I guess based on that logic God would be unloving to send sinners to hell! But God IS loving even though evil people WILL end up in hell if they don't repent and trust in his sacrafice! Like wise we ARE loving by protecting life even if it means we have to take it to protect life This doesn't make us God It makes us people who UPHOLD justice and DEFEND the rights of others which is their God given right! People used to STONE people to death in the Bible if they broke the law! That's PROOF killing is NOT the same as murder! There is no way around it, it's a FACT that people stoned people as part of the law in the old testament and it wasn't considered "murder" Read in context Me and others don't want to take the life of anyone, but if people try to end the lives of others unlawfully they have given their right up to life if they have to be stopped by no other means! God bless! And God bless the 2nd amendment and the right to defend lives!
We don’t kill for pleasure.. or hatred. We take justice and defend our people. We pray for those who are attacking us to realize. War and killing is inevitable. God and the angels are battling for us against evil. So pray and we all should be strong to endure. I am not the wisest and nor am I the one who knows it all. I can just tell you what I understand and learn from each other. God Bless you brother.
This put a big smile on my face😌I love your guy's videos! Living Waters it's my favorite 💕I'm hooked😂 watching Living Waters videos changed my life, I have a new heart and love what is right & I am repenting & I trust that Jesus is my savior & that he will help me get over these sins that I feel so consumed by. I wanna do right in his eyes, I want to have control over my emotions like anger is a big one, because in the moment I'm angry and then later I kinda just laugh at myself for getting so mad about something that doesn't even matter, all that matters is that I will be carried on to a beautiful place called Heaven because Jesus saved me & gave me a new heart💕
🤔👉👉THE EVIL SUCCESS IS IN TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ITS OK TO KILL UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES OR JUSTIFICATIONS, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE MORE OF HIS LIES! BE AWARE! USE YOUR MIND AND REASON TO SEE THROUGH! NEVER GIVE YOUR POWER OF YOUR FREE WILL TO A PERSON WHO COMMANDS YOU TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING (BROTHER) YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN OR KNOWN, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE GOING TO KILL SOMEONE YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW OR HAVE EVER SEEN, SAYING THAT YOU WERE FOLLOWING ORDERS WILL NEVER SERVE AS AN EXCUSE FOR THE DIVINE PRESENCE OF OUR CREATOR FATHER! FOR HE WILL TELL YOU: "FOR THAT I MADE YOU FREE, FOR THAT I GAVE YOU YOUR FREE WILL, FOR THAT I GAVE YOU A MIND OF MY OWN SO THAT YOU COULD USE REASON, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS." 🙏 SO BE AWARE OF THAT AT ALL TIME! 🤔🤔
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My comment has been deleted, and nothing about it was impolite. I just had an opposing thought to share. I'm beginning to think this ministry is a sham when a polite disagreement is not allowed.
Thank you for this video. However, it would be wonderful if there could be a deeper bible study into this topic. Me and my children were reading Kings and this topic came up. I know this is a delicate topic and has to be covered very mindfully and covered in prayer. But, I also know this topic is a stumbling block for many and the church avoids talking about it for obvious reasons.
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Thou shalt not kill....
Hello Pastor, sometimes people like Gary and I and not educated and we have “prides” we just need to be taught, however he may have been offended leaving more hate in his heart. But God Bless you for your message and I shall learn more. Amen.
That is human nature we are not made to kill, you would be worried if it did not effect him , my father was a commando in WW11 , and all his life he had to go away for a few weeks in a hospital, I was to young to understand why .
With love, faith comes by hearing God's word (Rom. 10:17). And let us all come into the unity of faith (Eph. 4:13). 1. Is the American government worldly or part of God's kingdom? -- Jesus says, "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them by Your truth" (John 17:16-17). -- In the Hebrew language, the word "NATIONS" is identical with the word *heathen* -- Psalm 96:5; Psalm 2:1. 2. What are the weapons that Christians should use on their enemies? -- "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God" (2 Corinthians 10:4). 3. With love, should we give our enemies food and water, or should we kill them? -- "Let love be without hypocrisy [play-acting]. ... Repay NO ONE evil for evil. ... If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink ..." (Rom. 12:9-21). 4. I now have been born from above -- a new birth brings new citizenship. Where is our new citizenship? -- "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:20). -- Are there Christians in this nation? Yes, but ... Biblically, we belong to a kingdom, not a nation. -- Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight ... BUT now My kingdom is not from here? 5. What kind of mind are we to have? -- The mind of Christ (Eph. 2:5). 6. Do the Old Testament Wars come into play, NOW? -- Jesus says, "You have said, an eye for an eye ... BUT I tell you NOT to resist an evil person" (Matt. 5:38-48). Because ... --"The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God" (James 1:20). The work of the Gospel is to make peace between men and God--not war. Wherever a heart surrenders to God the spirit of militarism and nationalism must go (June 21, 1898). The person who believes that the voice of the people is the voice of God may want to reconsider: "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb ... they loved not their lives unto death" (Rev. 12:11). 7. Does God regard it as less sinful to kill a thousand men than to kill one? -- "Though they join forces, the wicked shall not be unpunished; but the posterity of the righteous will be delivered" (Proverbs 11:21). blessings, John
Being a soldier was a Profession in Jesus times , the main restriction was for people to not become mercenaries, soldiers killing for money or false gods
It is not, now the kindom of God is spiritual not as in the old testament, and our arms should be different as apostol Paul said in Ephesians 6:16-18, it's logic God has children in all the nations nowadays, so how can a child of God from China can kill a child a God from Russia?
"this time about the 6th commandment." 1) the commandment is thou shall not murder, not thou shall not kill 2) the commandment is old testament & is for interaction among Israelites. in other words,it means an Israelite should not murder another Israelite 3) that is not the commandment the Bible calls the 6th commandment. there are 613 commandments in the old testament. in Exodus 34 the Bible calls this one the 6th commandment: "Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God."
One question for me is: If a soldier doesn't know that he's killing people under greedy government order for land, oil, etc then does that mean those soldiers are murders or that ignorance is bliss? I'm a Christian btw!
Excellent insight. It seems clear to me this video is not looking for careful development of this point Jesus made such a big deal about. John 18: 35 I’m not a Jew, am I?” Pilate replied. “Your own nation and the chief priests handed You over to me. What have You done?” 36 “My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If My kingdom were of this world, My servants[e] would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. As it is, My kingdom does not have its origin here.”[
Okay thanks to Pope Francis and his review of the Doctrine of a Just War. "There is no such thing" I served in the USAF during the Vietnam War , actually there. I wished I had not . As a Cradle Catholic, I would have applied for CO. Status.
What is wrong with you some of you? Defence is what matters. David,Solomon,Samson and some others fought against others to protect what they loved. If God didnt allow others to protect themselves and just sit to be slaughtered by their enemy then these individuals would not exist. God supports fighting for whats behind you not whats in front. The opponent is in front and the home you value so much is behind you. God wants you to look out for the innocent so whats the problem? As long as you are not fighting with hate in your heart then God will guide you home along with all of those who wants the fighting to end.
This is the only time we can kill: EXODUS 22:2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. NUMBERS 35:26-28 26 But if the slayer shall at any time come without the border of the city of his refuge, whither he was fled; 27 And the revenger of blood find him without the borders of the city of his refuge, and the revenger of blood kill the slayer; he shall not be guilty of blood: 28 Because he should have remained in the city of his refuge until the death of the high priest: but after the death of the high priest the slayer shall return into the land of his possession. MATTHEW 24:43 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. LUKE 12:39 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
@@noellealdi881 Well for a start they were not the **swords that you are imagining. Actually, it was a...... a small knife...a DIRK. Good for filleting fish and killing food for the table and cutting up meat for consumption, etc. SWORD **[(mache); A knife, i.e. DIRK-Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary] As for using such articles for harming or killing others....Jesus taught his followers "But I say LOVE your enemies" "Do not kill". You cannot say to Christ on your Judgment Day that you loved your enemy if you harmed or killed him. How can YOU? "52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your **sword away! All who use a sword will be killed by a sword". Matthew 26:52 (GW)
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Jesus expressed clearly that it was about "murder" as John Harris brought out. Very well stated case. I've heard some try to support this "not kill" position, by citing the story of Desmond T. Doss the conscientious objector that was twice awarded the highest honor for valor in combat during WWII. This Godly man was repeatedly spared from death, such as the machine guns of enemy soldiers jamming just as he came in their sights, and as an army medic he bravely saved many souls on both sides. However, it is quite a jump to assume that the blessedness he received was in regard to his position on the 6th commandment. Doss was a committed believer, seeking to KEEP ALL THE COMMANDMENTS of God - ALL THE TIME, and was raised to understand the 6th commandment as "thou shalt not kill" - as we might understand that phrase in modern times. Yet it is clear that God often blesses those that are doing all they can to follow Him, ...even when they may be missing details on doctrine. So I think God blessed him in spite of his erroneous holding (not because of it), and blessing him to show the power of faith in action. His story is quite marvelous for any that have not seen it.
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 If someone came to attack you or your family, and they started raping your mom/sister/female friends, and then proceeded to knife them after, would you just sit back and watch because it would be wrong for you to act out a form of defense? Also, should we do away with prisons and let all criminals go? Because we are suppose to love our enemies right? So therefore we should forgive them and not have any justice system at all. I'm just using your logic.
If it is okay to kill another human in self defense how come people are traumatised by it and feeling guilt and shame? Is our bad consciense not God's way of telling us that we did wrong?
Well, I think as followers of Christ, we should rather show the other cheek, as Jesus said in Mt. 5:39. And Paul himself quotes in Rom. 12:19, that vengeance is the Lord's, from Deut. 32:35. Also, in Isaiah 35:4, the Lord assures us to take revenge himself. Finally, Paul speaks in Ephesians 6:12 not to struggle against flesh and blood.
To Kill and murder is NOT the same thing. Jesus is the one who told people to sell their cloaks and BUY swords. Do you think the swords he told them to buy was for chopping carrots? It wasn't a metaphor, he told them to BUY REAL SWORDS! Proof is the fact PETER chopped a guys ear off WITH a REAL SWORD! The reason Jesus rebuked Peter or corrected him NOT to defend him wasn't because it was wrong to defend life, it was clearly because Jesus WAS TO DRINK THE CUP meaning fulfill his purpose of dying on the cross and PETER was trying to defend him aka stop Jesus from fulfilling what his purpose was! Jesus had PLENTY of times to tell his followers to give up their swords and he never did, he did the opposite which was to tell them to sell stuff to BUY swords! Jesus doesn't need Peter to defend him as he said clearly he could call down angels from heaven if he needed too Killing is NOT the same thing as murder I could go on logically for days how you and other people who think like you are WRONG but here are just two examples in the Bible, this isn't my opinion it's in the bible Luke 22:36-38 New King James Version (NKJV) 36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” 38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough Jesus TOLD them to buy swords and no it wasn't to chop carrots! I don't think Peter was using his sword to chop carrots when he sliced a dudes ear off! Exodus 22:2 New King James Version (NKJV) 2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. That is an example of KILLING which is JUSTIFIED and that is NOT murder! According to you we should just not have cops or militaries and should just let evil people do as they please raping, murdering, beheading and destorying life! That is COWARDLY The Bible says NO COWARD will enter into Gods kingdom Anyone who would watch life be destoryed is a COWARD if you are allowing your loved ones to be violated and murdered! God gave us DOMINION over this Earth and the animals God APPOINTED JUDGES! Loving your enemies does not mean you LET them rape and murder with no consequences! God loves us but that doesn't mean we can just go sin and do as we please! God throws SINNERS into hell even though he LOVED us enough to die for us! Just as there are consequences for breaking GODS LAW and God is NOT evil for stopping evil Like wise IT IS NOT wrong to STOP evil! If we have to kill in order to stop someone from being raped or murdered then it is JUSTIFIED! I just showed you a Bible verse were it talks about a theif being KILLED aka their life was ended and yet it was JUSTIFIED! Please reexamine the Bible and use COMMON SENSE I own guns and would NEVER murder my enemies just to murder them If a person tries to MURDER, RAPE or HURT my loved ones, myself or others I WILL justificabally end their life if they do NOT stop or go the other direction Sounds like you would be the type to let people like us get raped, murdered and destoryed! That is COWARDLY to watch people get their life taken by evil people! The only reason Jesus corrected Peter was because he HAD to die on the cross and Peter was getting in the way of it! Jesus IS the one who told them to sell their cloak and buy SWORDS and Jesus's own apsotles HAD swords which is evident buy Peter USING one! Jesus NEVER rebuked them and told them to drop or get rid of their swords for protecting life You need to REALIZE you are WRONG on this subject and we have a RIGHT to protect life!
King David slow down for the most part you need to re examine your Bible friend, when Jesus said to get a sword he is referring to a sword of scripture. And for the most part it seems you’re committing idolatry, and be very aggressive. While I do understand some circumstances, for the most part all murder is killing all killing is murder it’s the shed blood of an image bearer of God, you must repent and be sorrowful for it regardless.
@@lmaoaye7786 yes buying swords is totally for cutting bread and using it to put butter on their toast, please use common sense, if you think Jesus told people to buy swords for the purpose of spreading butter and for display only that's laughable and no evidence to support that That's like saying police carry guys for the purpose of just showing them and never using them I'm not being smart but having a sword implies using it unless you want to argue that Jesus is dumb and told people to buy swords but never use them That's like police having guns on their hips but not allowed to use them ever There would be no purpose to Jesus saying to buy a sword if they were to never use them ever under any case And the other guy who commented doesn't know what he is talking about He said the sword is the scripture Which is false because #1 Peter cut a guys ear off so there goes that poor argument What did Peter chop the guys ear off with a scripture? That's lauaghble that's how bad that argument is No, Peter used a REAL sword which is why the guys ear got cut off it wasn't some metaphor And the other guys argument makes no sense because Jesus said to BUY a sword and if it was scripture he wouldn't have said BUY a sword And Peter didn't use scripture when he chopped a guys ear off with a REAL sword I am not saying to take a life unjustly but there are multiple examples I have given where self defense was used and JUSTIFIED All everyone else has is their theories and opinions I have given what Jesus actually said and what the Bible said not my opinion or theory Saying Jesus told people to buy swords but not to use them is illogical People who make that argument are basically calling Jesus a moron and making him look like one Jesus isn't a moron and isn't going to tell people to buy swords just for them to be a novelty stare at object If he told people to BUY swords and Peter himself HAD and USED a real sword then common sense says it was a REAL sword he was talking about being that Peter CUT a ear off with a REAL sword Jesus told Peter to stop because he HAD to fulfill his purpose on the cross Jesus himself said that nobody would ever touch him in his kingdom because he would be defended The only reason Jesus didn't want Peter to defend him was because doing so would result in him NOT being taken to the cross to die for our sins and that was his purpose was to get captured and die for our sins What applies to Jesus doesn't always apply to us He is the one who has that purpose to die for our sins, that doesn't apply to us meaning we can't die for sins like he did When he told people to buy swords he meant REAL ones He doesn't need protected because he is God and can have angels protect him whenever he wants or protect himself if he wants Unlike God we cannot change reality and protect ourself without the use of swords, weapons or using self defense God is not a moron and knows this which is why he said to sell your cloak and BUY swords Because he wants people to be protected and knows there are evil people out there The fact Peter had a sword in him the entire time and Jesus never rebuked him for it shows he had no problem with him/them and people owning and carrying swords I already explained why he told Peter to stop because it was a specific situation that would have stopped him from being captured to fulfill his purpose to die on the cross Killing and murder is not the same Jesus meant it when he said buy a sword If you think he said buy a sword to slice bread you guys are illogical I own guns because I'm not stupid and going to let evil that exist to win and take innocent life of people I love The same applies to swords back then Jesus is a God of order and logic You guys are making him sound like a moron if you think he would tell people to buy a weapon then stare at it and never use it That's like saying but a gun but never shoot it and just look at it Lol Peace, y'all can believe whatever non sense y'all want The fact Peter chopper a guys ear off shows they had swords and it's not a metaphor when Jesus tells people to BUY swords Notice the word BUY swords If you don't want to buy a gun/sword or weapon that's is fine, just don't say others are wrong for doing so If you or others would rather be helpless and allow evil to win over good then that is called cowardice God says no coward will enter his kingdom and anyone who would allow evil to happen without stopping it is a coward themselves If you don't want to own a weapon then DON'T Nobody is forcing you to own a sword or weapon If you want to be a victim and be robbed and raped and murdered by evil people then that's your choice to not defend yourself or your loved ones It's not revenge to do so, it's called justice When a judge gives justice that doesn't mean he is getting revenge You people who think only God can give justice to people on this Earth so people shouldn't have consequences or justice given by anyone else are absurd Yes God is the ultimate judge but he also appointment government and judges to give justice and consequences There is an entire book in the Bible called JUDGES I'm not telling anyone what to do or believe But I am pretty certain I am correct in that they used REAL swords and he was talking about real ones And there are multiple examples of JUSTIFIED killings in the Bible Nuff said end of debate because there is none The Bible already showed justified killings so for anyone to argue that nobody can ever be justified in self defense or a killing is STUPID Later
I went to church and I understand faith is a amazing way to feel connected not only to a god but almost a family . The only thing I don't understand is that god is a merciful God but yet it's a sin when you take your own life people have told me about the 6th commandment I lost faith because I thought god would be with me every step of the way . Why does god view suicide something that needs more mercy and guidance become a sin
Romans 13:4, ESV: for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.
I was 7 years old a turtle was the only animal I was a child trying to be like my friends that hunting blue jays and squirrels. I’m not a hunter I changed there ways .
This is hypocrisy at its finest. In Deuteronomy didn't God order Moses to kill all who praised false idols. That would be murder. What is lawful and unlawful would be created by man.
@@joekearns7950 You did not mention that those kingdoms worshipped pagan gods and used their own children as sacrifice for these pagan gods. The Almighty God have been patient with them for 400 years hoping that they will change but they did not so God ordered their death to the last child and animal to cut evil in the world.
It is a sin to murder people and and Jesus says to love your enemy’s and killing them is selfishness not love and the Bible clearly tell us our battle is not against flesh and blood but against the dark rulers of this world
So you would rather let ISIS take over your home rape innocent underage girls. Nope, I would do whatever it takes to stop them. "The purpose of all wars is peace" ~St. Augustine
@@elidonoso7206 hey bro you are fighting the wrong war and God is the one that offers real peace through his son and has manifested his will through him
Besides that point, why would I want to believe in a god that lets me believe to kill certain people over another, or any human being at that point. Shits hypocritical. It’s the shit that ignites war, just because people believe it’s acceptable because some higher power deems it so.. everyone has a fucking choice, either you pick up the weapon or you don’t.
@@sunnytzude2900 It’s called morality. And there are different situations where your morality is challenged. Like picking up a weapon and killing someone before they can kill someone else. Like working for the greater good. I believe God gave us these morals and that He also gives us the situations to challenge our standard morals. Why? I don’t know. But I don’t need to know because He is God. I trust that if He put me here then He will help me out.
Someone please tell me how do I go about getting the right translation of meaning from scriptures. He made a good point about commandment number 6, but didn't speak anything advice about how to study scriptures. I have read the amplified and NLT it's simple for me but I wonder what materials did he reference to get the true meaning??
Try the NKJV (New King James Version) it is in my opinion one of the best translations, and if I was you I would stay away from the amplified version, but that is my opinion
it is a mis translation.....in the day, kill and murder were the same....now it is not....so the thought was do not commit murder....after all Jesus never told any soldier to leave the military service....
The Bible says “thou shall not Kill”. What does Jesus say?? LOVE YOUR ENEMIES! DO NOT EVEN GET ANGRY WITH SOMEONE! I love how you completely avoided all the teachings of the Son of God. THE WORD OF GOD HIMSELF! What happened when Cain murdered Abel? Did God seek vengeance?? NO! He actually told anyone who thinks about mustering Cain shall receive sevenfold the punishment!
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Thou shalt not kill....
War as a means of protecting ones citizins, is in my opinion, not unlawful. Rather it would be immoral to not protect your own. However, war in the form of conquest or genocide is unlawful. In english we don't really destinguish between different types of war, but there certainly are.
@ wars are not about protecting citizens, they are about conquering. Governments are illegal entities, no one hired them to do any protecting, the real way for people to protect themselves is by not having any government.
The sum of all parts is not greater than the whole. Since God has irreversibly incarnated his self-revelation in Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, there cannot be two ways to knowledge of God, one in Jesus Christ and another behind his back, but only one way, through Christ and in his Spirit. Amen.
Whether they "Kill" or "Murder" either way, people would have failed to "Love thine enemies" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers. So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them..... As to Christ and the use of the sword by St. Peter. He was rebuked for doing so, and also gave a grave warning. "One of the men with Jesus pulled out his sword and struck the high priest’s slave, slashing off his ear. 52 “Put away your sword,” Jesus told him. “Those who use the sword will die by the sword". Matthew 26:51-52 (NLT) How many paid that terrible price in the two World Wars, folks?
Thank you so much for this answer!!! The question has haunted me for years, being a former soldier
Thank you for your service! And like John says, murder is different to killing. Its all about the heart.
The fact that it has haunted you for years shows that your conscience was telling you all a long. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples , if ye have love one to another. ( John 13 :35 ) You served your country, not God. Be honest. Get over it.
@@ewankerr3011 you know the truth hallelujah
Ewan Kerr like saying all the glory serving goes to him? All the emotion
There is no former once a brother in arms always a brother in arms
I had no idea that the word was supposed to be "murder" and not "kill". That clarifies a lot. Thank you for the video.
Also, you remind me of Christopher Lambert :) God bless you.
@TCT it’s about intention. If you shot someone because you hate them that is murder. If you shot someone to protect your family you wouldn’t be murdering them. You would kill them yes but it would be out of protection not anger.
This is a way to justify makes no sense
@@chaselittle2601 Please show me that Biblically, thank you.
@@winolowardichelli2850 You're correct, the Spirit of God is speaking discernment to you. If you click *reply* you'll get to the presentation and my comment is under John Sheffield. One of the top entries right now at 2:00 pm.
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Either way, you have failed to "Love your enemy" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers. So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them.
Amen great video, it is not a sin to fight for the right cause.
You have just spoken the exact same words of the most famous anime ever created 😁 the android says the exact same thing before dying to one of the villains, what you said reminded me of this scene th-cam.com/video/dcSWlET_qpI/w-d-xo.html
I'm tired of people who think being a Christian means watching love ones get raped, or murdered or hurt, yes we are supposed to love our enemies but loving your enemies doesn't mean you allow them to destory life and commit unthinkable atrocities! Too many people are unwilling to stop evil and think evil is just going to stop it self! How foolish! If there was no cops or militaries to stop evil then evil would ultimately win!
But our Lord Jesus is going to come back and defeat evil, until then WE have a responsibility to preach and spread his word, warn others to turn from their sin and to protect life!
Jesus is the one who said to sell your cloak for a sword! Jesus is the one who had disciple's and apsotles who had swords around him!
People think just because Jesus told Peter not to attack the person who's ear he cut off means Jesus is telling is just to let evil win! That is non sense!
Jesus specifically told him not to do it because Peter was interfering with what Jesus came on the Earth to do! Which was die and be a sacrafice for the sins of the world!
Jesus could at any time protect himself if he needed or wanted, he doesn't need our human help to defend him
He told Peter to stop because he HAD to go die on the cross for the purpose he was sent!
Jesus had plenty of times to tell his apsotles to not carry swords when they had them, instead he told people to BUY swords
Well swords aren't for chopping carrots!!! Although you could!
It's obvious they are for self defense and to PROTECT life
People get too confused because of the "love your enemies" and "turn the other cheek"
Yes, we are to love our enemies and not repay evil with evil
That's the point! Defending LIFE isn't evil! So it's not repaying evil WITH evil!
It's repaying evil with JUSTICE and holding people accountable for their rape, for their robbery, for their murder!
Christians who take that weak view need to wake up!
If we went ahead and let evil do as it pleases and had no cops, no military and no justice or accountability then evil people would DESTROY all life!
Of course Jesus is going to come back and finish it
But we are CONTAINING it and fighting it as best we can UNTIL that time comes!
There is a difference between fighting for the right cause as you said and just stealing land for oil!
We have a RIGHT to DEFEND our life and protect it!
It's non sense to think that is Christians are to sit back and watch life and loved ones get violated and destoryed!
Sole Christians need to RETHINK their logic, I know some mean well but they are wrong
Jesus had all the many moments to address his apsotles carrying swords and Jesus himself told people to BUY swords!
What, do you guys think Jesus told them to sell their cloak and buy swords just to have them sit on shelves or to chop carrots with them?
Give me a break
We are to DEFEND and PROTECT life and uphold JUSTICE
@@kingdavid8178 Where do you think Akira got it from?? The Bible! 😎
@RENE OBELE The Bible says that all the governing authorities on earth are subject to God's law whether they acknowledge Him or not, they're still subject to the eternal moral law.
The Bible also says that authorities wield the power to kill evil doers for the good of society and to see that evil is punished. The authorities are supposed to praise those who do justice, good and righteousness in the lands and make an example of those who wilfully pursue evil, including putting them to death. It also covers the use of military force to prevent evil running rampant.
Now, if you joined up and went into a military conflict with a clear conscience that you were doing the right thing but later on it became known to you that it was all a lie, that is not something that would be held against you. However if you're given an order to obey that is *unlawful* (contradicts God's law) then you are to do what's right and disobey that order. Also, if you went into an armed conflict knowing full well that it was a great evil you were doing but you still went anyway, then that is also wrong.
The Bible speaks a lot about how authorities are supposed to act and the subjects below them who also keep order (police, army etc.). It is because the nation's and individuals themselves reject God's eternal moral law that we see no end to corruption in these systems.
@RENE OBELE Well that would be wrong if you know you are taking innocent lives, I don't think you needed to ask that, obviously if someone gives you a command to do wrong you should disobey it, if a cop or military person follows through with a order they know is wrong then obviously they have sinned
In the video I think he was talking about soldiers who are following non sinful orders
Defending our nation isn't sinful and stopping evil isn't sinful
But yes you would be right, if me and you was ordered to take land away from people and take a country over just because we want their stuff then obviously that would be sinful and we have done wrong
@@discipleaj 😁
Ouch Gary, ouch! John didn't murder this debate, he killed it! 😀
In your dreams.
Simon I love the way you said that, type that again😆😆😆😆😆😆
@Princess Lea How do you know this? Do you work at the Pentagon? Do you get intelligence reports? Or are you just speculating based on your emotions?
well, it wasn't really a debate, was it? and I don't really think your joke with words works, as per the definition of murder and kill in johns video, he did in fact murder this debate, as he deliberately did it lol
@@Marco_Viva it works bc it’s not exactly illegal to kill a debate. For it to be murder, it would have to be illegal and deliberate.
Thanks a lot for clearing this up, haunted me for too long and it still discomforts me but I feel better now, God Bless.
@Princess Lea the right cause has nothing to do with ptsd. That was a very ignorant statement, my buddy said he once saw a dog carrying someones head overseas and eating it. That shit alone can cause ptsd and has nothing to do with morals.
@Princess Lea that made absolutely 0 sense
Hey brother. This is a great resource video. I had this question from a military man while I was street preaching a couple of days ago and now I have an excellent answer if it comes up again.
Keep serving the Lord!
What happened in the Old Testament when Almighty God Himself ordered and watched over His nation Israel, and when He commanded wicked nations to be totally destroyed for their corruption and evils ways, has nothing to do with our Christian era.
Almighty God is calling out for the future rulership of the world a body of "Kings and priests" who are to rule the nations of the world with Christ for a 1,000 years.
And our commanding officer, the Lord Christ, has instructed that we do not harm other humans in this present "Dispensation of Grace".
But are to control our corrupted human nature and submit to his commands and those of his personally ordained Apostles. For this is a life of probation to see if we are fit and aspire to be faithfully obedient, and so be granted an entrance into Christ's coming Kingdom.
For before a man is fit to rule over and control others, he first has to learn to rule over and control himself, and faithfully submit to the higher authority above him, which in the case of the Elect, is Jesus Christ and his Father, Almighty God.
As a young Canadian Army infantryman who was recently told to get ready to go to Ukraine, this helps me a lot in my moral dilemma.
The government will forgive for your sins .... but God won't .
You are following the governments laws not Gods , and we know how honest the government is ........ Jew's will justify going to war buy any mean's
God followers where soldier's trust and believe they would've went to war in Jesus name for him
You Canadians most likely won't see the worst of it
Good luck be careful and get back home but Nato started this crap
Most wars don't happen for righteous reasons, most wars happen for selfish reasons usually to do with economics so being a soldier and an enforcer for a small elite isn't moral.
Praise God for Living Waters!
Ephesians chapter 6 verse 12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
One more thing Jesus Christ said love your enemies and pray for them which persecute you.
God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow, there is a time for war and a time for healing. It’s only because of men and women who defended the western world are you even able to post comments like you are. Is it wrong that we fought the Nazis in world war ?
When a born again Christian from one country kills another born again Christian from another country....which one is doing right in the eyes of God? And then ultimately when they are both in heaven....are they separated by nationalism/allegiance to country there too? Asking for a friend.
They have both MURDERED a brother of Christ. Each other. Instead of loving each other as Christ commanded them.
Hey but do u guys like Islam or na
They both killed each other without reason, but nobody is split up in heaven based on what country you where from
If we're supposed to be ambassadors, For Christ... As Christians, I don't think any of us should be killing anyone, For any reason. Love your enemies, As yourself! For me, to live is Christ, and To die is gain.(Phil 1:21)(Matt 5:21, 38-39, 43-44)(Matt 10:28)(Hebrews 10:30)(NKJV) Ask yourself this question: Am l a follower of Jesus? ...or just a fan of Him?(Matt 4:19)(NKJV) ...WWJD?
@@johnsanchez5204 So by your eyes I'm a murder because I have a gun?
Thank you for clarifying this for me God Bless... and praise God
Soldiers , must never harm, molest, kill or use violence as is commanded of them.
"14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them,
Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages."
Luke 3:13-14 (KJV)
διασείω not extort money from anyone, or accuse them falsely; and be content with your wages.”
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"14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them,
Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages."
Luke 3:13-14 (KJV)
And Christ forbids using violence or harming another human being even in defence of self or others.
"38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil:
but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also".
Matt 5:38-40 (KJV)
When did jesus kill someone? Oh thats right.
The only time he even laid hands on someone was when he healed somone.
Again those who live by the sword die by the sword.
In case its not clear
Ezekiel 3:18 KJV
When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Genesis chapter 9 verse 5
And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
In his life on earth sure, but Jesus has always been a part of the Godhead. How many people did God wipe out in the flood?
If you join the military, make sure you don't kill anyone.
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). The Role Triangle of Victim Villain and Hero is One of the Most Dangerous Social Dynamics in Existence take for (ex) the Christian Soldier He has Grown Up with the Understanding Thou Shall Not Kill but the Minute He Decides that Something is a Threat to His Country Suddenly Kill is Not Only Ok It Makes Him A Hero
Either way, people would have failed to "Love thine enemies" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers. So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them.
yes, he said turn them also the other cheek.
@@jameshilliard5483 So if I see a rapist about to rape a woman should I let that man continue to do so?
@@MinhNguyen-pk9qk last I checked turning the other check meant more to not retaliate after being insulted. (I’m guessing mainly verbally insulted) Imo, if you or someone else is being attacked physically or sexually you should take action without hesitation.
Awesome teaching. I’ve been asked the same question and this really helps me to answer in the correct way. Thank you so much.
Answer it the correct way? Read John 13 :35. Does this suggest to you that joining the military and killing people is a sign of Christianity?
@@ewankerr3011 "Love always protects". Sometimes people give you no option but to fight to protect what you love. Those people don't just "accidently" become a threat. They choose to hurt and kill others.
It's also a sin to be a coward.
@@mikepayne759 :John 18 :36.
Absolutely fantastic video!
What happens if there is a war between two sides who are Christians? They both have God on their side so is it still justified to kill Gods people ?
One cannot be loving their enemies by killing them.....can they?
Christ commands we love them, thus it is impossible to kill them and then declare on Judgment Day that we loved them.
So if your “enemy” is attempting to kill your spouse or children do you just let them, and declare on Judgement Day that you loved your spouse and children?
@@coltonburns2190 stated "So if your “enemy” is attempting to kill your spouse or children do you just let them"
In obedience to what the Truth instructs.
"36 Even as it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter".
Romans 8:36 (ASV)
Colton further stated, " and declare on Judgement Day that you loved your spouse and children?"
Christ will know already and great will be your reward for loving him unto death.
"Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death".
Revelation 2:10-11 (KJV)
Hallelujah!
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“And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.””
Luke 22:35-38 ESV
Why would Christ tell His disciples to buy swords if He didn’t intend them to defend themselves, their property or someone else?
@@coltonburns2190 Exactly! Not defending your kids or your spouse would be very cowardly.
Not protecting your family is a sin. When you allow someone to get murder your an accomplice to murder.
Seeing evil and saying or doing nothing is the same as committing the sin.
Jesus is coming soon, get saved, repent, and follow God’s will
I feel like this is a very dangerous thought process...This could well have many people thinking that they should be killing others because state 'authority' tells them to. That the line between killing and murder is made clear when certain individuals with power draw it themselves. That murder is a crime of passion like breaking into someones home and stabbing them to death, but killing is invading someones country and stabbing them to death...It just leaves much too much room for ambiguity and interpretation between what is or is not valid cause for killing versus murder...Also, saying that god ordered the deaths of entire nations, thereby setting the precedent for human slaughter en masse is hardly comforting.
He did say immorally at 3:59
God is the ruler of life AND death. He created kittens who will rip a baby bunny rabbit apart while they are alive. That is called torture. In nature the weakest animals/humans will die. There has to be some scale of that working in the territorial warfare that every single country is involved with. And not every man out there willing to sacrifice their lives to protect people is satanic. I’d say it’s the other way around and god understands that some have to be the ones to sacrifice. Do you think lions or bears (the kings of nature) go to hell for killing other animals to survive? It’s just a bigger scale of that. God knows your heart and if you actually want to kill people then ya you’re probably screwed if you don’t repent and work on that issue, but most people in the military are just trying to get strong and be prepared to protect their families and other people. I’d say all soldiers go to heaven, if they have good hearts. Kinda like how all dogs go to heaven and yes they are murderers. Christians over think everything. There are primal human instincts we are still animals at the end of the day and our systems are not perfect because man isn’t perfect. National defense is still needed and warriors are being called and in my opinion a soldier of god would be the only good person to fill those shoes
@@Phoenix-tq8lt Nowhere in the Bible does it say that we'll see animals in Heaven, and before you say "we're animals", we're not. We didn't evolve from apes God made us in His image, nothing else did He make like that.
@@Phoenix-tq8lt that is the result of sin. Before the Fall, there was no death, after the Fall, death and suffering came into the world.
Terrorist are who they are And have no room in the USA 🇺🇲
Outstanding video. Bless you, all.
ur a marine corp
The problem is as the world plunges in sin, the line between murder and justified killing is blurred. The way I see it, it's our place to study scripture and put our faith in our God. His word is our sword, and the faith is our shield. What is the proper reason to kill in war? For God? Land? Resources? God is good because even if you commit such a sin, he forgives. And that's enough to put my mind at ease on the issue
Exodus 22:2 New King James Version (NKJV)
2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
Luke 22:36-38 New King James Version (NKJV)
36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.”
38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.”
And He said to them, “It is enough
- The Bible clearly gives examples of killing that is done in self defense or to protect life and it being justified and NOT the same as murder, the first Bible verse was VERY clear on that
- Jesus told people to BUY swords and no they are no FAKE, a prime example is when Peter chopper a guys ear off proving they had REAL swords
- Being that Jesus's apostles and followers had swords as some were even soldiers, Jesus could have told them at any time to stop carrying swords around, the fact that he never did shows clearly Jesus did NOT have a problem with people having swords
- A common misunderstanding is people using the ONE example and ONE time where Jesus told Peter not to continue to fight the people capturing Jesus with his sword
But if you read IN CONTEXT and understand that Jesus's entire purpose was to die on the cross as a sacrafice you will realize that Jesus stopped him NOT because it was wrong to protect others but because Peter was STOPPING the fulfillment of what Jesus had to fulfill which was him being captured and taken to die on the cross for our sins
The Bible itself is full of rulers and kings and armies and soldiers
God himself USED armies to kill and take life AS JUDGEMENTS
Please read in context and use COMMON SENSE
We were given dominion over the Earth and Animals and life, not to destory it but to use and protect it and multiply the Earth
God APPOINTED JUDGES and there is an entire book in the Bible called JUDGES!
If we did not have cops, militaries and protectors of life then evil WOULD win
Cowards will NOT enter Gods kingdom the Bible says
Watching your loved ones get hurt and violated and murdered is COWARDLY!
Yes we are to love our enemies, however THEY choose the consequences for their actions
It's not EVIL to stop a murderer or rapist!
And it's not repaying evil with evil because used your HEADS, the person stopping evil isn't comitting EVIL!
You have a God given right to protect YOURSELF and OTHERS!
This is different than taking life for no reason which is unjustified which is called MURDER!
Killing and MURDER IS different!
Please read the Bible in context and use the common sense God gave you
Anyone who would watch another person be raped or murdered having the means to stop them but does not is a COWARD and EVIL
Watching it happened and not stopping it is MORE evil as you know what is right and failed to do it!
God bless you all
And for those of you who took a different stance, please wake up and realize you are need to change your mind and use COMMON SENSE
If you believe that nobody is ever JUSTIFIED to kill then go live in another country or place where there are no laws or cops!
Hypocrites! You say it is unjustified but live in a country where you are safe because God has given you law enforcement and a military to have your back and protect you!
Hypocrites, go live in a place where there are not cops or laws then and let's see you live it out!
How foolish
We are image bearers of God!
We aught to hold people accountable and uphold JUSTICE just as he does!
This doesn't mean we are taking his place! He is the ultimate judge!
But until Jesus returns we are JUSTIFIED to defend lives even if we HAVE to use for and kill to do it!
Please learn the difference between killing and murder!
If we are unloving because we kill to save lives then I guess based on that logic God would be unloving to send sinners to hell!
But God IS loving even though evil people WILL end up in hell if they don't repent and trust in his sacrafice!
Like wise we ARE loving by protecting life even if it means we have to take it to protect life
This doesn't make us God
It makes us people who UPHOLD justice and DEFEND the rights of others which is their God given right!
People used to STONE people to death in the Bible if they broke the law!
That's PROOF killing is NOT the same as murder!
There is no way around it, it's a FACT that people stoned people as part of the law in the old testament and it wasn't considered "murder"
Read in context
Me and others don't want to take the life of anyone, but if people try to end the lives of others unlawfully they have given their right up to life if they have to be stopped by no other means!
God bless! And God bless the 2nd amendment and the right to defend lives!
Thank you for this
So its not a sin to kill for the right reason
@@NONAME-ys5vi i hope so.what if a man try's too rape your daughter would you not save her?.i would radar hurt him or KILL him
@@NONAME-ys5vi No, but it's important you think about when it is. A general rule of thumb is that violence should be the last option.
So much wisdom packed into a single comment.
But doesn’t God say “But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” Mathew 5:44
We don’t kill for pleasure.. or hatred. We take justice and defend our people. We pray for those who are attacking us to realize. War and killing is inevitable. God and the angels are battling for us against evil. So pray and we all should be strong to endure. I am not the wisest and nor am I the one who knows it all. I can just tell you what I understand and learn from each other. God Bless you brother.
More of your perspectives please! Subscribing from Philippines
This put a big smile on my face😌I love your guy's videos! Living Waters it's my favorite 💕I'm hooked😂 watching Living Waters videos changed my life, I have a new heart and love what is right & I am repenting & I trust that Jesus is my savior & that he will help me get over these sins that I feel so consumed by. I wanna do right in his eyes, I want to have control over my emotions like anger is a big one, because in the moment I'm angry and then later I kinda just laugh at myself for getting so mad about something that doesn't even matter, all that matters is that I will be carried on to a beautiful place called Heaven because Jesus saved me & gave me a new heart💕
Thank you. This question was in my mind for years. Thank you so much for the clarification ❤
Thank you for your answer. Considering what's going on right now in the world.
@livingwatwaterseurope how important the historical meaning of words ares. How easy it is to forget.
Wow the way you explained this was amazing thank you
🤔👉👉THE EVIL SUCCESS IS IN TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT ITS OK TO KILL UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES OR JUSTIFICATIONS, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE MORE OF HIS LIES! BE AWARE!
USE YOUR MIND AND REASON TO SEE THROUGH!
NEVER GIVE YOUR POWER OF YOUR FREE WILL TO A PERSON WHO COMMANDS YOU TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING (BROTHER) YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN OR KNOWN, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE GOING TO KILL SOMEONE YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW OR HAVE EVER SEEN, SAYING THAT YOU WERE FOLLOWING ORDERS WILL NEVER SERVE AS AN EXCUSE FOR THE DIVINE PRESENCE OF OUR CREATOR FATHER! FOR HE WILL TELL YOU: "FOR THAT I MADE YOU FREE, FOR THAT I GAVE YOU YOUR FREE WILL, FOR THAT I GAVE YOU A MIND OF MY OWN SO THAT YOU COULD USE REASON, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS." 🙏
SO BE AWARE OF THAT AT ALL TIME! 🤔🤔
I was Trying finding the best answer for my son question about sin of soldiers who kill others in war. Finding living water talk about this is like finding the gems 🙏🙏🙏
My comment has been deleted, and nothing about it was impolite. I just had an opposing thought to share. I'm beginning to think this ministry is a sham when a polite disagreement is not allowed.
Amen. Thank you for sharing the word of God. God bless you
It's funny how this video popped up when I looked up Christian space marines.
"I don't enjoy killing but when done righteously, It's just a chore like any other."
- Joshua Graham, The Mormon Christian.
Amen in Jesus name ! Thanks for the wisdom 🙏 I always looking forward for John teaching. He is always so polite and humble. 😊
Thank you for this video. However, it would be wonderful if there could be a deeper bible study into this topic. Me and my children were reading Kings and this topic came up. I know this is a delicate topic and has to be covered very mindfully and covered in prayer. But, I also know this topic is a stumbling block for many and the church avoids talking about it for obvious reasons.
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Thou shalt not kill....
@@xXx-lfg unless uncle Sam says go kill. 👈 That is wicked. We should obey God instead of uncle Sam.
Thanks alot brother, may God bless you
This was so helpful!!
Hello Pastor, sometimes people like Gary and I and not educated and we have “prides” we just need to be taught, however he may have been offended leaving more hate in his heart. But God Bless you for your message and I shall learn more. Amen.
Fabulous answer and very classy...well done!
Never to kill another human even if you lose your own life in obedience to Christ Jesus.
Woah, thanks John, please do more of these videos, they are helpful.
Thanks John!
Thank you so much 💯💪🏽 wisdom and understanding is key to understanding the words and kind of God 🌿🙏🏽
My Dad a pilot bombed Germany in the 2nd world war! He did what he was told, but I think he felt guilty of it as he got older.
That is human nature we are not made to kill, you would be worried if it did not effect him , my father was a commando in WW11 , and all his life he had to go away for a few weeks in a hospital, I was to young to understand why .
He killed nazis I take it. From what I hear those people were evil
repent and accept Jesus as your savior and lord pls he loves you all pls repent Jesus is coming soon
With love, faith comes by hearing God's word (Rom. 10:17). And let us all come into the unity of faith (Eph. 4:13).
1. Is the American government worldly or part of God's kingdom?
-- Jesus says, "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them by Your truth" (John 17:16-17).
-- In the Hebrew language, the word "NATIONS" is identical with the word *heathen* -- Psalm 96:5; Psalm 2:1.
2. What are the weapons that Christians should use on their enemies?
-- "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God" (2 Corinthians 10:4).
3. With love, should we give our enemies food and water, or should we kill them?
-- "Let love be without hypocrisy [play-acting]. ... Repay NO ONE evil for evil. ... If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink ..." (Rom. 12:9-21).
4. I now have been born from above -- a new birth brings new citizenship. Where is our new citizenship?
-- "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:20).
-- Are there Christians in this nation? Yes, but ... Biblically, we belong to a kingdom, not a nation.
-- Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world: if My kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight ... BUT now My kingdom is not from here?
5. What kind of mind are we to have?
-- The mind of Christ (Eph. 2:5).
6. Do the Old Testament Wars come into play, NOW?
-- Jesus says, "You have said, an eye for an eye ... BUT I tell you NOT to resist an evil person" (Matt. 5:38-48). Because ...
--"The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God" (James 1:20).
The work of the Gospel is to make peace between men and God--not war. Wherever a heart surrenders to God the spirit of militarism and nationalism must go (June 21, 1898). The person who believes that the voice of the people is the voice of God may want to reconsider:
"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb ... they loved not their lives unto death" (Rev. 12:11).
7. Does God regard it as less sinful to kill a thousand men than to kill one?
-- "Though they join forces, the wicked shall not be unpunished; but the posterity of the righteous will be delivered" (Proverbs 11:21).
blessings, John
Thank you! Very well said!
Wooow this video is so underrated!! Thankyou for answering a question thats been in my mind for years!! May God bless you and your ministry!!
Being a soldier was a Profession in Jesus times , the main restriction was for people to not become mercenaries, soldiers killing for money or false gods
2:30 which religion does not say “you shall not kill” or a variation of it?
I can’t thinking of any.
absolutely great!! god bless
But do you remember what Yahusha said to Peter when he cut off his ear? There is so much to war and why we go o war and that is a sin
Thou shalt not.....
God was the commander of the ancient israelites
Is it sin to kill a sinner who are doing lot of bad things to ordinary people??
Idk the Bible didn’t really specify though I wouldn’t kill anyone
It depends if you mean retribution, then the answer is yes it is. If it's done by the justice system... the answer is no.
@@godwinadjei2932 yeah man ,i figured it. thxs for your response.💕💫
Gary is correct. Take away a bad guy life is still considered as murder. Bible already told us that like Jesus taught “turning the other cheek”.
I’ve contemplated this question. I have to ask myself if the perpetrator is attacking out of love and service. More than likely not…
So is it ok to kill in war or not for Christians
It is not, now the kindom of God is spiritual not as in the old testament, and our arms should be different as apostol Paul said in Ephesians 6:16-18, it's logic God has children in all the nations nowadays, so how can a child of God from China can kill a child a God from Russia?
This is fire 🔥
"this time about the 6th commandment."
1) the commandment is thou shall not murder, not thou shall not kill
2) the commandment is old testament & is for interaction among Israelites. in other words,it means an Israelite should not murder another Israelite
3) that is not the commandment the Bible calls the 6th commandment. there are 613 commandments in the old testament. in Exodus 34 the Bible calls this one the 6th commandment: "Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God."
You're awesome, stay blessed
One question for me is:
If a soldier doesn't know that he's killing people under greedy government order for land, oil, etc then does that mean those soldiers are murders or that ignorance is bliss? I'm a Christian btw!
Excellent insight.
It seems clear to me this video is not looking for careful development of this point Jesus made such a big deal about.
John 18: 35 I’m not a Jew, am I?” Pilate replied. “Your own nation and the chief priests handed You over to me. What have You done?”
36 “My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If My kingdom were of this world, My servants[e] would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. As it is, My kingdom does not have its origin here.”[
Okay thanks to Pope Francis and his review of the Doctrine of a Just War. "There is no such thing" I served in the USAF during the Vietnam War , actually there. I wished I had not . As a Cradle Catholic, I would have applied for CO. Status.
What is wrong with you some of you? Defence is what matters. David,Solomon,Samson and some others fought against others to protect what they loved. If God didnt allow others to protect themselves and just sit to be slaughtered by their enemy then these individuals would not exist. God supports fighting for whats behind you not whats in front. The opponent is in front and the home you value so much is behind you. God wants you to look out for the innocent so whats the problem? As long as you are not fighting with hate in your heart then God will guide you home along with all of those who wants the fighting to end.
This is the only time we can kill:
EXODUS 22:2
If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
NUMBERS 35:26-28
26 But if the slayer shall at any time come without the border of the city of his refuge, whither he was fled;
27 And the revenger of blood find him without the borders of the city of his refuge, and the revenger of blood kill the slayer; he shall not be guilty of blood:
28 Because he should have remained in the city of his refuge until the death of the high priest: but after the death of the high priest the slayer shall return into the land of his possession.
MATTHEW 24:43
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
LUKE 12:39
39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
the King Jame's version is mistranslated. THe Hebrew reads: thou shalt not Murder!
That’s what I’ve been saying, killing someone because they’re trying to harm you wouldn’t seem evil to me
But murder is shedding innocent blood
@@noellealdi881 ...........
One cannot be loving their enemies by killing them.....can they?
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 tell that to all the men that fought in war for God. Remember when Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword?
@@noellealdi881
Well for a start they were not the **swords that you are imagining.
Actually, it was a...... a small knife...a DIRK.
Good for filleting fish and killing food for the table and cutting up meat for consumption, etc.
SWORD **[(mache); A knife, i.e. DIRK-Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary]
As for using such articles for harming or killing others....Jesus taught his followers "But I say LOVE your enemies" "Do not kill".
You cannot say to Christ on your Judgment Day that you loved your enemy if you harmed or killed him.
How can YOU?
"52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your **sword away! All who use a sword will be killed by a sword".
Matthew 26:52 (GW)
I wanna see you trying to justify this in front of the Lord!
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Jesus expressed clearly that it was about "murder" as John Harris brought out.
Very well stated case.
I've heard some try to support this "not kill" position, by citing the story of Desmond T. Doss the conscientious objector that was twice awarded the highest honor for valor in combat during WWII.
This Godly man was repeatedly spared from death, such as the machine guns of enemy soldiers jamming just as he came in their sights, and as an army medic he bravely saved many souls on both sides.
However, it is quite a jump to assume that the blessedness he received was in regard to his position on the 6th commandment.
Doss was a committed believer, seeking to KEEP ALL THE COMMANDMENTS of God - ALL THE TIME, and was raised to understand the 6th commandment as "thou shalt not kill" - as we might understand that phrase in modern times. Yet it is clear that God often blesses those that are doing all they can to follow Him, ...even when they may be missing details on doctrine. So I think God blessed him in spite of his erroneous holding (not because of it), and blessing him to show the power of faith in action. His story is quite marvelous for any that have not seen it.
Christ COMMANDS his faithful followers to "Love their enemies" not to kill them in wars and self-defense scenarios.
Yea let me love someone who's about to take my life. I rather live and then explain to the big man why I did it.
@@FigFirearms
No 'explanation' can excuse the fact you deliberately disobeyed Christ by "Resisting evil" and refusing to "Love your enemies".
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 If someone came to attack you or your family, and they started raping your mom/sister/female friends, and then proceeded to knife them after, would you just sit back and watch because it would be wrong for you to act out a form of defense?
Also, should we do away with prisons and let all criminals go? Because we are suppose to love our enemies right? So therefore we should forgive them and not have any justice system at all.
I'm just using your logic.
Now I can join the military without disrespecting god 🙏 amen
Thou shal not kill. You will go to hell
@@winolowardichelli2850 you shouldve watched the video bruh
If it is okay to kill another human in self defense how come people are traumatised by it and feeling guilt and shame? Is our bad consciense not God's way of telling us that we did wrong?
Well, I think as followers of Christ, we should rather show the other cheek, as Jesus said in Mt. 5:39.
And Paul himself quotes in Rom. 12:19, that vengeance is the Lord's, from Deut. 32:35.
Also, in Isaiah 35:4, the Lord assures us to take revenge himself.
Finally, Paul speaks in Ephesians 6:12 not to struggle against flesh and blood.
Also says to love your enemy
To kill or to murder is the same thing!!!
It’s prohibited! And it’s only about humans!
Jesus Christ did not kill or murder anyone!!!
To Kill and murder is NOT the same thing. Jesus is the one who told people to sell their cloaks and BUY swords. Do you think the swords he told them to buy was for chopping carrots? It wasn't a metaphor, he told them to BUY REAL SWORDS!
Proof is the fact PETER chopped a guys ear off WITH a REAL SWORD!
The reason Jesus rebuked Peter or corrected him NOT to defend him wasn't because it was wrong to defend life, it was clearly because Jesus WAS TO DRINK THE CUP meaning fulfill his purpose of dying on the cross and PETER was trying to defend him aka stop Jesus from fulfilling what his purpose was!
Jesus had PLENTY of times to tell his followers to give up their swords and he never did, he did the opposite which was to tell them to sell stuff to BUY swords!
Jesus doesn't need Peter to defend him as he said clearly he could call down angels from heaven if he needed too
Killing is NOT the same thing as murder
I could go on logically for days how you and other people who think like you are WRONG but here are just two examples in the Bible, this isn't my opinion it's in the bible
Luke 22:36-38 New King James Version (NKJV)
36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.”
38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.”
And He said to them, “It is enough
Jesus TOLD them to buy swords and no it wasn't to chop carrots! I don't think Peter was using his sword to chop carrots when he sliced a dudes ear off!
Exodus 22:2 New King James Version (NKJV)
2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
That is an example of KILLING which is JUSTIFIED and that is NOT murder!
According to you we should just not have cops or militaries and should just let evil people do as they please raping, murdering, beheading and destorying life!
That is COWARDLY
The Bible says NO COWARD will enter into Gods kingdom
Anyone who would watch life be destoryed is a COWARD if you are allowing your loved ones to be violated and murdered!
God gave us DOMINION over this Earth and the animals
God APPOINTED JUDGES!
Loving your enemies does not mean you LET them rape and murder with no consequences!
God loves us but that doesn't mean we can just go sin and do as we please! God throws SINNERS into hell even though he LOVED us enough to die for us!
Just as there are consequences for breaking GODS LAW and God is NOT evil for stopping evil
Like wise IT IS NOT wrong to STOP evil!
If we have to kill in order to stop someone from being raped or murdered then it is JUSTIFIED!
I just showed you a Bible verse were it talks about a theif being KILLED aka their life was ended and yet it was JUSTIFIED!
Please reexamine the Bible and use COMMON SENSE
I own guns and would NEVER murder my enemies just to murder them
If a person tries to MURDER, RAPE or HURT my loved ones, myself or others
I WILL justificabally end their life if they do NOT stop or go the other direction
Sounds like you would be the type to let people like us get raped, murdered and destoryed!
That is COWARDLY to watch people get their life taken by evil people!
The only reason Jesus corrected Peter was because he HAD to die on the cross and Peter was getting in the way of it!
Jesus IS the one who told them to sell their cloak and buy SWORDS and Jesus's own apsotles HAD swords which is evident buy Peter USING one!
Jesus NEVER rebuked them and told them to drop or get rid of their swords for protecting life
You need to REALIZE you are WRONG on this subject and we have a RIGHT to protect life!
King David slow down for the most part you need to re examine your Bible friend, when Jesus said to get a sword he is referring to a sword of scripture. And for the most part it seems you’re committing idolatry, and be very aggressive. While I do understand some circumstances, for the most part all murder is killing all killing is murder it’s the shed blood of an image bearer of God, you must repent and be sorrowful for it regardless.
So if I shoot someone for gain its the same as if I killed someone in car accident ? I don't think so
@@kingdavid8178 so is buying a sword the same thing as using it?
@@lmaoaye7786 yes buying swords is totally for cutting bread and using it to put butter on their toast, please use common sense, if you think Jesus told people to buy swords for the purpose of spreading butter and for display only that's laughable and no evidence to support that
That's like saying police carry guys for the purpose of just showing them and never using them
I'm not being smart but having a sword implies using it unless you want to argue that Jesus is dumb and told people to buy swords but never use them
That's like police having guns on their hips but not allowed to use them ever
There would be no purpose to Jesus saying to buy a sword if they were to never use them ever under any case
And the other guy who commented doesn't know what he is talking about
He said the sword is the scripture
Which is false because #1 Peter cut a guys ear off so there goes that poor argument
What did Peter chop the guys ear off with a scripture? That's lauaghble that's how bad that argument is
No, Peter used a REAL sword which is why the guys ear got cut off it wasn't some metaphor
And the other guys argument makes no sense because Jesus said to BUY a sword and if it was scripture he wouldn't have said BUY a sword
And Peter didn't use scripture when he chopped a guys ear off with a REAL sword
I am not saying to take a life unjustly but there are multiple examples I have given where self defense was used and JUSTIFIED
All everyone else has is their theories and opinions
I have given what Jesus actually said and what the Bible said not my opinion or theory
Saying Jesus told people to buy swords but not to use them is illogical
People who make that argument are basically calling Jesus a moron and making him look like one
Jesus isn't a moron and isn't going to tell people to buy swords just for them to be a novelty stare at object
If he told people to BUY swords and Peter himself HAD and USED a real sword then common sense says it was a REAL sword he was talking about being that Peter CUT a ear off with a REAL sword
Jesus told Peter to stop because he HAD to fulfill his purpose on the cross
Jesus himself said that nobody would ever touch him in his kingdom because he would be defended
The only reason Jesus didn't want Peter to defend him was because doing so would result in him NOT being taken to the cross to die for our sins and that was his purpose was to get captured and die for our sins
What applies to Jesus doesn't always apply to us
He is the one who has that purpose to die for our sins, that doesn't apply to us meaning we can't die for sins like he did
When he told people to buy swords he meant REAL ones
He doesn't need protected because he is God and can have angels protect him whenever he wants or protect himself if he wants
Unlike God we cannot change reality and protect ourself without the use of swords, weapons or using self defense
God is not a moron and knows this which is why he said to sell your cloak and BUY swords
Because he wants people to be protected and knows there are evil people out there
The fact Peter had a sword in him the entire time and Jesus never rebuked him for it shows he had no problem with him/them and people owning and carrying swords
I already explained why he told Peter to stop because it was a specific situation that would have stopped him from being captured to fulfill his purpose to die on the cross
Killing and murder is not the same
Jesus meant it when he said buy a sword
If you think he said buy a sword to slice bread you guys are illogical
I own guns because I'm not stupid and going to let evil that exist to win and take innocent life of people I love
The same applies to swords back then
Jesus is a God of order and logic
You guys are making him sound like a moron if you think he would tell people to buy a weapon then stare at it and never use it
That's like saying but a gun but never shoot it and just look at it
Lol
Peace, y'all can believe whatever non sense y'all want
The fact Peter chopper a guys ear off shows they had swords and it's not a metaphor when Jesus tells people to BUY swords
Notice the word BUY swords
If you don't want to buy a gun/sword or weapon that's is fine, just don't say others are wrong for doing so
If you or others would rather be helpless and allow evil to win over good then that is called cowardice
God says no coward will enter his kingdom and anyone who would allow evil to happen without stopping it is a coward themselves
If you don't want to own a weapon then DON'T
Nobody is forcing you to own a sword or weapon
If you want to be a victim and be robbed and raped and murdered by evil people then that's your choice to not defend yourself or your loved ones
It's not revenge to do so, it's called justice
When a judge gives justice that doesn't mean he is getting revenge
You people who think only God can give justice to people on this Earth so people shouldn't have consequences or justice given by anyone else are absurd
Yes God is the ultimate judge but he also appointment government and judges to give justice and consequences
There is an entire book in the Bible called JUDGES
I'm not telling anyone what to do or believe
But I am pretty certain I am correct in that they used REAL swords and he was talking about real ones
And there are multiple examples of JUSTIFIED killings in the Bible
Nuff said end of debate because there is none
The Bible already showed justified killings so for anyone to argue that nobody can ever be justified in self defense or a killing is STUPID
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It says Thou shalt not ' Murder' not Thou shalt not kill, their is a difference.
I went to church and I understand faith is a amazing way to feel connected not only to a god but almost a family . The only thing I don't understand is that god is a merciful God but yet it's a sin when you take your own life people have told me about the 6th commandment I lost faith because I thought god would be with me every step of the way . Why does god view suicide something that needs more mercy and guidance become a sin
Romans 13:4, ESV: for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.
It's still a sin.
Take it easy on him! Ray Comfort would never have been this sassy to Gary!
4:35 that's another good point, God created animals to be eaten.
I was 7 years old a turtle was the only animal I was a child trying to be like my friends that hunting blue jays and squirrels. I’m not a hunter I changed there ways .
This is hypocrisy at its finest. In Deuteronomy didn't God order Moses to kill all who praised false idols. That would be murder. What is lawful and unlawful would be created by man.
@@joekearns7950 You did not mention that those kingdoms worshipped pagan gods and used their own children as sacrifice for these pagan gods. The Almighty God have been patient with them for 400 years hoping that they will change but they did not so God ordered their death to the last child and animal to cut evil in the world.
Mercy through grace
It is a sin to murder people and and Jesus says to love your enemy’s and killing them is selfishness not love and the Bible clearly tell us our battle is not against flesh and blood but against the dark rulers of this world
So you would rather let ISIS take over your home rape innocent underage girls. Nope, I would do whatever it takes to stop them.
"The purpose of all wars is peace"
~St. Augustine
@@elidonoso7206 hey bro you are fighting the wrong war and God is the one that offers real peace through his son and has manifested his will through him
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Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.
Police officers have guns and with strong police force=less crime.
@@Fight-t4b If I met a soldier Id rather say Thank you for your service. Only a heartless person would say "youll burn in hell for killing ISIS"
@@elidonoso7206 if a isis member or a cartel member were filled with spirit of God would they be doing what they are doing ?.....
Funny, I feel like the people I meet around me deserve to die more than any strangers I’ve yet to meet
Besides that point, why would I want to believe in a god that lets me believe to kill certain people over another, or any human being at that point. Shits hypocritical. It’s the shit that ignites war, just because people believe it’s acceptable because some higher power deems it so.. everyone has a fucking choice, either you pick up the weapon or you don’t.
@@sunnytzude2900 It’s called morality. And there are different situations where your morality is challenged. Like picking up a weapon and killing someone before they can kill someone else. Like working for the greater good. I believe God gave us these morals and that He also gives us the situations to challenge our standard morals. Why? I don’t know. But I don’t need to know because He is God. I trust that if He put me here then He will help me out.
It’s actually supposed to say thou shall not murder.
True.
Someone please tell me how do I go about getting the right translation of meaning from scriptures. He made a good point about commandment number 6, but didn't speak anything advice about how to study scriptures. I have read the amplified and NLT it's simple for me but I wonder what materials did he reference to get the true meaning??
Try the NKJV (New King James Version) it is in my opinion one of the best translations, and if I was you I would stay away from the amplified version, but that is my opinion
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it is a mis translation.....in the day, kill and murder were the same....now it is not....so the thought was do not commit murder....after all Jesus never told any soldier to leave the military service....
The Bible says “thou shall not
Kill”. What does Jesus say?? LOVE YOUR ENEMIES! DO NOT EVEN GET ANGRY WITH SOMEONE! I love how you completely avoided all the teachings of the Son of God. THE WORD OF GOD HIMSELF!
What happened when Cain murdered Abel? Did God seek vengeance?? NO! He actually told anyone who thinks about mustering Cain shall receive sevenfold the punishment!
It is a simple rule... THOU SHALT NOT KILL
Thank you 🙏🏼
Well said
I was in the army and I can tell you, thou shalt not kill
Please expand on what you mean please.
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@@practicalporters god commands us to not shed blood ,but ppl tend to forget he said innocent blood
wow you got it .right on the money. I'm impressed PTL
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Thou shalt not kill....
How is war lawful?
War as a means of protecting ones citizins, is in my opinion, not unlawful. Rather it would be immoral to not protect your own. However, war in the form of conquest or genocide is unlawful. In english we don't really destinguish between different types of war, but there certainly are.
@ wars are not about protecting citizens, they are about conquering. Governments are illegal entities, no one hired them to do any protecting, the real way for people to protect themselves is by not having any government.
The sum of all parts is not greater than the whole.
Since God has irreversibly incarnated his self-revelation in Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, there cannot be two ways to knowledge of God, one in Jesus Christ and another behind his back, but only one way, through Christ and in his Spirit.
Amen.
Whether they "Kill" or "Murder" either way, people would have failed to
"Love thine enemies" as Christ has commanded his faithful followers.
So there is no escape from either killing or murdering them.....
As to Christ and the use of the sword by St. Peter.
He was rebuked for doing so, and also gave a grave warning.
"One of the men with Jesus pulled out his sword and struck the high priest’s slave, slashing off his ear.
52 “Put away your sword,” Jesus told him.
“Those who use the sword will die by the sword".
Matthew 26:51-52 (NLT)
How many paid that terrible price in the two World Wars, folks?