Can you rustproof an electric car?
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- Is it safe to rustproof an EV? Will rustproofing void the warranty of an EV? Can an EV antirust treatment be done at any shop? If you have an electric vehicle and have been wondering about rustproofing it, this video shows and explains the details about having your EV protected the right way.
A giant thank you to Steve Bolduc for opening up a time slot in his completely booked schedule, for the treatment of my Kia EV6. The objective of this was to create a video to help clear up the confusion some people have about having an electric vehicle treated with rustproofing. Specifically because some dealerships are misleading clients about it.
DISCLOSURE: I paid full retail price to have my EV6 treated. I was not paid, sponsored, or given anything to make this video.
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00:00 Intro
00:23 Question about warranty
01:41 How long to do and cost
02:16 The treatment shown here
02:30 What’s hidden under the hood?
02:51 Take the doors apart
03:22 Friday afternoon part found!
03:55 Remove covers from under the car
04:26 Questionable design choice for winter cars
05:25 What’s hidden underneath?
05:42 Remove the fender liners
06:31 Potential problem point fixed!
07:12 Applying rustproofing - First part
09:03 “Magic wand” rustproof application
11:21 Seams and brakes!
12:09 Suspension protection!
12:40 Inside the doors
13:01 Protecting the hood and more
14:17 Protecting rear hatch
14:41 Reassemble everything
15:48 Why get rustproofing done?
16:25 Where to get it done?
17:33 EV-olution stuff
18:47 Bloopers - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great information. Definitely not cheap. How often would this need to be done?
The nice thing is that this total treatment only needs to be done once. Then every 2 or 3 years you have the exposed parts "touched up" and that costs next to nothing since nothing needs to be taken apart. I have pinned your comment because I forgot to mention this in the video. Thanks for asking.
Fascinating....and I'm so glad you showed it going back together!
thank you so much for this information! as an old engineer from detroit, the one place in the world with roads as bad as your part of the world, i can agree with everything you said.
What a great video with a lot of informations. Thanks André. Do you think we could find some kind of that service around MTL and the suburbs?
You can see who is recommended by AVEQ on this page: www.aveq.ca/offres.html
Thanks André for letting us see what is involved for that procedure! I had mine treated at a Montreal area shop that does pretty much the same procedure and I'm amazed at the product, especially compared to the old oil based rust-proofing I had done on my other cars (from the chain we all heard about here in Quebec, not to name names).
Would you share with us the name of the shop?
@Jé it is my pleasure. And you are correct, things have changed a lot over the last several years. I would not use one of the well advertised companies, especially the one who claims they can do your car in less than 30 minutes 😎
@Jean Yves Guiguere he probably used Arleco in Anjou. They are the ones suggested on the AVEQ site that I provided the link for in reponse to your comment below.
@@jeanyvesgiguere6666 Like André mentioned, it's Arleco in Anjou.
Excellent and impressive video again.
Thank you very much!
A fantastic job 🙂
One of the best videos ever for someone who contributes least to landfills. And preserves, maintains, repairs, reuses and cares for their hard earned items.
And long live bolts that unthread rather than twist off. Wire connections that stand a fighting chance against electrolysis.
Just so impressed with the thoroughness and care. What a discovery.👍
Andre, you're a superstar, man. You covered bases I knew existed but didn't have a clue where to look. I'll be making/begging Steve for an appointment.. don't mind waiting for the best. And I'll be traveling over 1000km one way. Going to make a trip out of it and reward myself. I will also look forward to Quebec cuisine.
Thank you. 👍🙏
Wow! Thank you very much, I really appreciate the comment/compliment! I try my best to answer questions that are not found on TH-cam, or the various groups I am part of, or at least answer them differently than others. Thanks again 😎
Impressive amount of time and effort! Not a bad price for that much labor. I wonder where these people were trained? Is it a chain? I'm sure that your video will help get them more customers, so it's definitely to their benefit to have allowed you to film.
Yes, it is a big job. The person who did my car owns the business, his brother also has a shop, it is a family business that has existed since the 70s. I made a point of not mentioning the business name since he did not want any extra business. As mentioned in the video he is booked out 1 year in advance, as is his brother. You can watch the part of the video that starts at 16:25, where I explain it all.
WOW!! That cheap for all that work. I live in Ireland and would hate to ask what that would cost here. Great honest vid. Now subscribed.
Thank you very much for the sub. I would be curious to know the difference in cost in other countries. FYI, I am working on my next video about my winter wheels and tires.
Great video and the guy you featured is one talented individual!
I can see why he is booked a year in advance....
I am lucky as I have a home shop with a car lift and I do my own oil sprays on my vehicles. I use many of the same techniques he used and I also learned a bunch by watching what he was doing.
We also have an EV6 in Runway Red on order and expect it sometime this summer. Our 2023 Kona EV has been awesome and we pile the mileage on. I totally agree oil spraying is well worth it as it will maximize the life you get out of a vehicle. We rarely get rid of vehicles and usually wring every last drop of usability out of them before they leave. We usually end up selling our cars on to friends who need a winter car as they know how well maintained they are.
About 15 years ago we sold our beloved 97 Aerostar AWD van with 490,000 km to a friend for a winter vehicle...they are still driving it! The body has finally succumbed to the rust worm but that is because they did not continue regular oil sprays...but it is still running!
Anyway...Thank you for doing your videos they are great - especially the out takes at the end!
Mike 🇨🇦
Thank you very much. It is great that you have a garage and a lift, I would love that 😎. As for the Aerostar, holy crap, that was a long life and surprising because they were not that reliable. Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the comment, I really appreciate it.
@@EV-olution LOL...yeah we had several of them and they where always good for us. But I am a maintenance freak...
The EV has such low maintenance I am bored but I have a few other cars as well.
Mike 🇨🇦
very helpful information!
I am glad I could help. Thanks for watching my video.
thank you for this video and info! i've been wanting to do this but didn't know where to start or what to expect. i'm assuming there's no major difference in having this done for the hev?
It is my pleasure. There is no difference for HEV, PHEV, or BEV. They have to avoid the same type of components.
good info Andre
Thank you very much
Nice bonus of getting charged while they work!
Yep! He has more than one 240V charging station in his garage. It was very convenient because this shop is over 200km away from my house 😎
Ah frack! Awesome video as always.
LoL, thanks 😎
I also don't want holes drilled in my car so I appreciate seeing an alternative rustproofing method. Maybe I missed this but how often must this treatment be done? Also, are certain manufacturers/models of EVs easier to do than others? Finally, any issues with breakage of plastic fasteners during the process? Even so, this was a great video. Thanks!
Thank you very much! Nope, you did not miss it, I forgot to mention it. I pinned the first comment that asked this question and answered it there 😎. This big treatment is only done once, but some exposed areas should be "touched up" every 2 to 3 years (2 is better). I asked about different models and he won't do just any car, but says the ones he does take a similar amount of time. Also, no broken parts or clips! It was fairly easy, but this is a new car so plastics are still flexible enough even though it was a long and cold drive (200+ km) to get there.
Nice André!
You forgot to mention, what product are they using? I know there are a few different treatments out there.
Thank you, and nope, I did not forget 😎. In the video I mention that it has to be the right product but since there is not one specific product, and the one used at this shop is a "family recipe" that has been evolved and developed since the 70s, I could not give a specific answer. This is why I mention that it has to be an appropriate product that is used, without giving a type/name. It boils down to trusting the place that does the work. This place is the second generation of owners doing treatments and they have been protecting cars for years, with excellent long-term results.
Merci!
Merci à vous, j'apprécie beaucoup votre support.
You should probably note that not all shops will allow the customer in the shop area during the application process.
Correct. I was given access because I was making a video about the subject, but in general, being present during application is not something that is allowed.
Could you post photos of the mud guards once installed? I'm thinking of getting the same.
Once I get around to doing it, hopefully next weekend, then I will be sharing images on Instagram, Facebook and Ko-Fi.
I second that. Can’t find any frackin mudguards anywhere in the UK for my EV6.
@ibeam68 @Simon unfortunately I did not get around to installing them before winter hit. Sorry.
Tu as fait un un petit voyage à Lévis !
Effectivement 😎
Salut André - j'ai fait la même chose cette semaine à Québec : évidemment pour la Tesla, ils la démontent d'une autre façon. Produit semblable : garantie de 10 ans et des touch-ups à intervales qu' ils vont me fournir. J'ai des photos que je pourrai te partager si cela t'intéresse.
Excellent vidéo, pour la ventilation je me posais la question : pas de masque ? Tu y a répondu.
C'est avec qui que tu as fait faire le traitement?
Pour la ventilation, j'en parle dans la vidéo ici: th-cam.com/video/NXZPC_sHY2o/w-d-xo.html
@marcgrondin65 Salut Marc est ce que tu peux partager le nom de ton garage pour la Tesla svp
I wish car manufacturers would rust proof their cars the same way 🙂
I agree 100%
merci andré c'est en plein la job que je vais faire quand je vais avoir mon ev6 gt2 j'étais déjà convaincu de le faire mais ces intéressant de voir les étapes et surtout de voir les ajouts que kia a fais sur l'auto que l'on ignorait jusqu'a maintenant (les coussinets) great job andré
Merci beaucoup, et heureux que ça peut aider. Ça vaut vraiment la peine de faire faire ce traitement.
@@EV-olution ha ha ha j'étais déja vendu à l'idée parce que je veux le garder longtemps
Je viens den acheter un le vendeur ma dit que non pour la garantie alors jai écrit a Kia Canada. La fille a téléphoné ma femme lui indiquant que si ils prouvent que le traitement a cause un problème électrique quils ne couvriront pas la garantie.
Do you know any similar shops doing anti rust treatments for ev vehicles in GTA?
Sorry, but being in Montréal I can't help with Toronto. Unfortunately you are going to have to dig around, but if you find a good one please feel free to share it here.
How long does the treatment last or how often does it need to be retreated?
The protection I had done is commonly known as, and misleadingly named, permanent rust proofing. This is far from the truth and it requires a touchup to areas exposed to water and snow ever 2 years. That means the under carriage, and a couple of spots like the bottoms of the doors need to be sprayed every 2 years, and it is done at a lower cost than the initial job. I don't have the cost of the touchup because it has only been one year.
Do u have to do yearly touch ups? What product did he USE? Great video. Sub'd & 👍'd
Thank you very much. The touch up should be done every 2 years, is less complicated and costs less. The product he used is something that has been developped in house for decades, based on a known product. I don't have details because it is a family recipe.
How long have you owned the ev6? Did you winter it before rustproofing it? I just bought one, and everybody is telling me not to get it undercoated.
Being one of the first 200 in Canada I have had my EV6 since March 2022, so about 1.5 years now, and I have driven it a full winter. I had the car treated before winter because the faster you have it done the more efficient the protection is. I made this video because lots of people say to not get an EV protected, but an EV is just like any other car that is made of steel, it will eventually rust and the only way to protect it is to have it treated. My video explains all the details about who and where to go, and why. I hope this helps.
Have you had any pushback from the dealer when they've done your regular maintenance since you've had this done? Did they even notice the product?
Both dealerships I have dealt with in the last 5 years, with my Niro EV, my wife's Soul EV, and now my EV6, have never said a thing. They know a proper treatment when they see one, and not a single component or wire has any treatment on it. If Kia were ever to blame the rust protection for a problem they are going to have one hell of a time proving it.
C’est quoi le nom du garage ou tu as été pour ton antirouille
Comme mentionné dans la vidéo, il ne cherche pas de nouveaux clients, donc la raison que je ne l'ai pas mentionné, mais envoi moi un message privé sur Facebook et je te répondrai.
I only have one question. How much weight is added to the vehicle?
Weight?! I had not thought of that since it is a very fine mist of product that is applied and you can barely see it. So I am unaware of how many grams it would weigh, but I am guessing it is a very tiny fraction of the weight of the 2 foam inserts I had removed from the car. (shown in the video).
How do I find a reliable company that specializes in rust proofing for my Kia Niro EV? I live in Ontario. Will you please share the name of the company you use? Thank you.
Your question is a good one. I don't know of an official list of good companies, I only know of the two that are here in Québec. As mentioned in the video, the owner of this company is not looking for new clients, so I won't post it here, but if you message me on Facebook, or via my website, I will share the company name there.
facebook.com/evolutioninevitible/ ..... OR ..... www.ev-olution.ca/
Is this similar to the application process Krown uses?
We don't have Krown in Québec, so I don't know how they apply it, but not many places specialize in EVs, so I suggest you ask them how they apply their product and if they drill.
@@EV-olutionActually, we do!
Il y a un Krown à plusieurs endroits, dont à Lévis. Ils percent effectivement des trous et je ne sais pas à quel point ils sont formés pour les VÉ
Based on the information from @2602597 posted yesterday, I would suggest avoiding Krown.
Wonder where is a place like this in GTA as going to Montreal area not an option and I understand he has a year wait so not something i could coordinate with a family vacation
Unfortunately I can't answer that. Hopefully someone close the Toronto can answer.
Try FX Auto in Markham
Combien de temps que ça prend à faire ?
C'est pourtant mentionné dans le vidéo, 5 heures en totale.
Effectivement, j'en parle à plus qu'une place dans la vidéo 😎. C'est environ 5 heures de travail.
@@EV-olution j'étais au travail sans sons. Et je pouvais pas attendre d'être chez moi. 😅
@@daelina1 😆Merci de prendre de votre temps pour écouter ma vidéo! 😎
@EV-olution ta surment repondu a la question il a trop de commantaire je voie pas la reponse a quel endroit a tu fais faire se service, you propably answer the question but to many coment where do you get this service? maybe in the description pin the rust prove shop :)
Bonjour Jean-Mathieu. Étant donné que la compagnie ne cherche pas de la publicité, et qu'ils sont déjà très sollicités, SVP m'envoyer un message directe sur Facebook,ou par mon site Web et je te répondrai avec le nom de l'entreprise.
I have been rust proofing many vehicles for over twenty years here in the UK. What product has he used on your EV please?
He uses an evolution of the product that his father used and improved, with great success, since the 70s. It is a family "recipe". You could try reaching out to him to see if he will share, but I would not hold my breath.
Thanks. I was just interested as I have used most products ie waxoyl diniteol ACF. I now use Lanoguard which I’m very happy with. Good video thank you.
@@MCAYBOY Where about are you based?
@@RichardOzanne UK buddy
@@MCAYBOY that's 97,000 square miles to choose from :D . North, south etc? Ta muchly
All this while charging the car for you too.
Yep! He has more than one 240V charging station in his garage. It was very convenient because this shop is over 200km away from my house 😎
@@EV-olution you live in Kingston?
@@TheInspiringKhan no I live in the province of Québec.