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Hi, I'm from Malaysia, a proud owner of this beautiful machine. This is my best investment so far. Will be using this for ages. Looking forward for your flow profile videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I am so glad, that i chose the Lelit Bianca! My wife was sceptical at first, but now she keeps asking me to make her coffee all the time. Whenever we have guests, they all want me to make them coffee every 10 minutes. That might be the only downside to the Lelit Bianca, people get addicted to it!
Just took delivery on this. I agree that auto on should have been a feature. I also believe a configurable 20 amp capability would be desirable so appropriately wired installations would allow for simultaneous heating of both boilers. That said, a big selling point for me on this product was the fact that it comes with a modular power cord that plugs into the back of the machine rather than being hard wired to it. My unit is positioned right next to my power outlet so I don’t need or want a 4 foot cord that I have to coil behind the machine. I can easily use an 18 or even a 12 inch cord to eliminate the kitchen clutter or, if I ever move it to a new location, I can easily replace it with a longer cord for that installation. Well done Lelit, almost perfectly done.
Thanks for the review. It's been about a year since you did the review, and wondering how reliable it's been. My major concern about getting one are repairs and how hard DIY would be and availability of parts. Thanks
I love my Bianca as well. It is a great machine. Yes it has no timer, first I thought oh man that's sad.... But the Bianca had a real hardware on/off switch which is in many ways great. I use a TP Link Kasa wifi power plug... Now I can program the time for each day when Bianca has to switch on or off and I can switch it on manually by phone when I on the way back from Airport or work and want a cofe wheen I'm back home. Using the TP link I can control this machine via internet. Omg that's so great. And it is not more than 15 bugs.
I've been using E-61 machines as well as other "prosumer" machines with 58mm portafiters since the early 1980's and have had the same naked PF since then (I made it by cutting the bottom off of a Brasilia Lady single PF, naked, aged brass & I wouldn't sell it for a thousand bucks). I currently have a Fiorenzato Bricoletta that I bought in the early 90's and I'm finally going to retire it and buy the Bianca!
05:10 onwards... You can achieve the same effect if you start your PID controlled E61 machine in steam mode. The much higher target temp allows the boiler to heat faster, because PID wont throttle at about 91° Celsius.(93° target temp). So my procedure for a fast late wake up morning coffee on a ECM Classika PID. 1. Switch on machine and select steam mode. 2. After 10 min the water in the boiler has about 106-110°. 3. Switch back to espresso mode and you are rdy to go. Of course this is a bit inpractical, but definitely works. To be totaly honest Im ok with a too cold first shot as Im always do at least two in the morning and Im also happy if the second is perfect and the first only does its job as a wakener:)
Great review! Love this machine. I would disagree with the last point on the timer-on built in feature. At the moment, I'm using a smart plug to do that and that gave me a lot more flexibility, such as able to remotely turn on the machine using my mobile phone. I would not be able to turn on the machine using my phone with the timer-on feature built into the machine. Totally agree on the drip tray, although it was probably more practical than aesthetic. Nonetheless, I believe this is the best Home espresso machine on the market, especially for its features and price point! Thank you Brew At Home for this great video!
Does anyone know if the European model has the same on-off switch as North American, so it can be used with a smart plug. My Gaggia Classic Pro has spring on-off switch due to EU regulations so I had to change it in order to use smart plug. I believe in Bianca's case that is not an issue due to stand by function.
Great review, and beautiful machine. I have an Expobar Brewtus; a lot of similar features, but no PID for the steam boiler, no real programming other than temperature. And it didn't come with flow profiling or a naked portafilter. I installed a flow control device; works well, but not as pretty as that walnut paddle.
Hello Kyle! Happy new year, wishing you all the best! I have a question regards Bianca, and i'm really looking forward to your thoughts. I have Lelit Bianca aswell, I've swiched my steaming wand's tip from 2 holes to 4, i've been practising now for 3 months, but no matter what I do or what milk I choose, i see big difference in my steamed milk - with 2 holes its micro foam, i cant see any bubbles, where's with 4 holes i cant reach that same micro foam level, its not bad, dont get me wrong, but bubbles are visible and its driving me nuts. My steam temp. is set to 125 C /257 F. Have you noticed any difference like that? What is your steaming temp? Thank you in advance, greetings from Europe!
Hi Kyle I just got the varia v3 grinder …amazing 😊 I got the ultra hyper burrs but havnt set them up yet I think there supposed to be better on espresso
Awesome video. As a machine that's so well made and packed full of advanced features, how is it at such a competitive price point? Have Lelit made compromises anywhere to keep the price down?
Great question. The short answer is no. As the Bianca is still not cheep. But Lelit is a newer brand in espresso and while they’re making quality machines, you’re saving on the name of the brand. Now not to say they don’t design differently than other manufactures like ECM and Profitec. Their sheet metal could be argued to be thinner.
Kyle. Congrats on the bean in the roaster! You touched on it a little in your review, but could you expand on the pros/cons of the Bianca Vs Linea mini? Your clear, in-depth explanation could save me thousands, literally. I currently have the LUCCA A53 mini and was looking to step-up to something a little more robust in regards to plum/reservoir, larger boilers, 58mm group head and a few other things. Thanks in advance.
Hey Jasmin! Absolutely! To quickly summarize, the LM is a fantastic machine, but you’re paying for the name and a few commercial features. For home use, the Linea mini isn’t necessary but rather a nice luxury. That being said the Bianca is a fantastic machine for the price. It will pull a shot of the same quality to the Linea, but with the possibilities of flow profiling. This feature alone is worth going with the Bianca, in my opinion. Either would be fantastic for the home barista.
@@KyleRowsell Thanks for the quick response. Great information. I definitely don’t won’t to over pay just because of the name. I want productivity for what I’m paying for. Thanks for saving me the extra cash! Keep up the great work!
@@JSPRE which did u choose..i have never made espresso i am a complete beginner but im getting interested..which should i choose and do u have any advice on how to learn properly to use..tx
@@execatty I have decided to stick with my LUCCA for now. It is a great machine, does what I need and does it well. My advise to you would be to decide on two things and stick with them. 1) A budget. Very important. Don’t forget any “coffee tools” you may be considering as well. 2) Buy the machine that fits Your needs, not someone else’s preferences. 3) If the machine you want is out of your budget, save money to get the machine you want. 4) Be sure of what you want from your machine and look at machines with those features. Hope this helps, if you want specifics on anything, including the coffee tools I use, my grinders, buyers remorse or anything else, I would be glad to help.
@@JSPRE I can afford anything reasonable.. Would love Linea mini.. But 5k little toomuch in principle.. Looked at lelita Bianca also.. 👍 But I and at least for now just looking to make for my girl and I.. Wanted niche zero grinder but they're sold out.. Keep the advice coming.. TX
Very thorough review. The Bianca was one of the finalists in my home espresso search, exactly because of its unmatched features that you highlighted at this price point. In the end I ended up going with the Lucca M58 mainly because of the 3 yr parts and labor warranty and the aesthetics which appealed more to me personally. The biggest trade-off which I had to make was passing on the flow control feature which I have heard is best in class on the Bianca as compared to other ones that have since become available for e61 machines. I am very happy with my choice and some day I may explore adding flow control to my setup. For now, I look forward to your videos on this feature and how it might enhance espresso in the cup. Subscribed.
No argument, the Lucca M58 is a beautiful piece of work but just to make sure there's no confusion... the Bianca also comes with a 3 year parts and labor warranty.
Kyle, regarding your comment about the built-in timer that would enable an auto start-up when one is away or asleep, I tend to disagree if I am correct in my thinking. I could be wrong but with all the Smart Home products today by Apple, for example, wouldn’t it be possible to add the Lelit Bianca to a Smart Home device/electrical outlet to do the same thing as would a built-in timer? I don’t personally have one of these types of homes but from reading about them, it seems to be that this would be possible. I would enjoy comments from you and anyone watching this great review you gave on this beautiful espresso machine. By the way, this is the #1 espresso machine with an E-61 group head I am considering purchasing sometime next year along with the possibility of a super-automatic Jura E-8 or S-8 machine. You are absolutely correct about the quality of this machine.
Very thourough, I am definitely considering an upgrade from the Gaggia Classic next year and this is in the race. It's between Lelit, Profitec and ECM... Still don't know if I want dual or single boiler (don't make that many milk drinks, but maybe I would in the future)
Recently upgraded from a PID'd GC to a DE1, and couldn't be happier. If you're mostly an espresso drinker, and really want to play around with extraction profiles no other machine is capable of (to my knowledge), I'd seriously consider a decent. Though the steam is no slouch either.
I clean mine once a month. Descale isn’t recommended if using proper water like Third wave water or proper filtration. But if you must, take it to a proper dealer or technician.
@@KyleRowsell what does your cleaning process involve? Also, why not descale? Would love this machine, and wanting to upgrade soon, but not sure I could manage to install a water filtration system too. Soft water in my area and haven't had any problems with either of my DeLonghi Magnifica that I had for 6 years and my Barista Express that I've had for 2. I know that they are totally different and only appliance grade machines. Wouldn't want to go to a dealer to clean. Maybe I shouldn't get a dual boiler?
Call me spontaneous, but I took a closer look on the bianca after watching this, I was looking for a new machine, but had missed this one, just bought it, should arrive in a few days😁
So I am considering the Bianca or the Profitec Pro 600. I think that on paper the Bianca is a better machine< but the Pro 600 is clearly got German engineering on its side and just seem rock solid. Id love your thoughts on the build quality and longevity? Also did you consider the Profitec machines?
Excellent review Kyle. I have had a basic espresso machine for three years and been looking at stepping up the games. I have spent a lot of time on line researching machines and am leaning towards the Lelit Bianca. Anybody know of any local (Vancouver BC) distributors of this line? Would like to see one first hand prior to buying and would like to buy local. Thank you for the review Kyle Randy
Hi Kyle, great insightful video! I am in between the Bianca and the Rocket Apartamento. Leaning towards the Rocket, any arguments why that would be a mistake over the Bianca? Keep up the good work!
Hi! The apartemento is in a different price class than the Bianca. The rocket is a heat exchanger and the Bianca is a dual boiler. The Bianca is a better equipped machine but costs significantly more.
It's great that it comes with the bottomless portafilter. I have a rocket appartemento and had to purchase a bottomless portafilter. It came with a single and double portafilter. I've never used the single portafilter
good video mate, though many statements mentioned are incorrect. A lot of E61 machines such as ECMs, Rocket, and Profitec have all the features and quality on the bianca, specially the auto standby features. The flow control is also available on all of those machines. never the less the bianca is an amazing home machine.
Hey brother! I don’t believe I mentioned that standby was exclusive to Bianca, but the flow control doesn’t come standard on those other models. Once added they can cost up to 1k more than the Bianca. So to my point, the Bianca is the best value in this category.
Hi kyle. Thank you for this amazing video 🤩 I would like to ask is there any way to make the water flow automatically instead of using the pre wetting option by myself? My second question is do I have to connect the machine with plumbed water connection to use the flow control function? Thank you 🙏🏻
I use a home automation with geo fencing. When I get within 20 minutes of the house the machine turns on. I also program the plug to auto shut down so the machine doesn't stay on for a long time. I can see the wattage consumption as well through the appliance module. When the water is cold and the machine is cold, the wattage use is high. After a machine with a PID is hot and it's jut flicking the boiler element on and off, machines use much less power.
@@KyleRowsell I didn’t do it for my current machine, I did it for a Ranciilio Silvia. PID modded it and added the appliance module. Wrote the scene for the geofencing . I have multiple geofences, so when I get to the driveway it unlocks the doors and turns on lighting depending on time of day. I have a Rocket Giotto Cronometro R. For me it came down to height and wattage. I will add a profitec pressure profiling control soon. Plumbing it in wasn’t the cheapest...
About the "smart" purpose, i pleased that lelit uses a switch and not just a push button. So I can let it turned on and use a smart plug : in my case a shelly 2.5 directly put in the wall outlet. i can program it, it can use "Ok google, turn on the coffee machine", i can monitor the power consumption, i can turned on from my smartphone when i drive back to my home. All these features for just 20€ for a smart plug, to get far more feature that built-in "smart features"
Thanks for the complete review. I am ready to invest in such a machine, and this seems like a good option. Why people would go for the Rocket? Any advantage ? Thanks! (Also, which balance are you using in your video??)
well there are a few different rocket models. I think Lelit has an advantage on the rocket machines in almost every category. Rocket was made well known from retailers like Seattle coffee gear but there are better machines for the money.
@@KyleRowsell thanks! I was just wondering why people would not want more this one, as to me it seems like an amazing machine. Do you offer online class? You are so good at explaining thing, I would definitely subscribe to classes and learn when I will get my machine
rocket is a much older brand, therefore more well-known. but i have tried both machines, and i don't see the rocket having any advantage, it's louder and more "crude" looking. however the steam does seem to be stronger. that's it
Hi Kyle, have you experienced any issues with the drip tray not catching water from the pressure release valve? Somebody posted in a group that they found a small puddle underneath the tray and was wondering if you'd had a similar experience. They may not have put the tray in correctly though. Cheers.
@@KyleRowsell that's good to know. Thanks. I live in New Zealand and have been waiting for the Profitec Pro 600 to come into the country. This caught my eye and has now become a serious contender for my hard earned dollars. Love your videos and positivity. All the best Kyle.
what do you guys think about Lelit Bianca vs Rocket Cinquantotto R58? in my country Lelit is cheaper by $800, comes around $2700. will i miss anything by choosing Lelit? i like both the same, and it seems like Rocket have more prestigious brand but $800 can be put into a good grinder.
I am going to buy this coffee machine, but I do not have too much information. I want to know if this product can be continuously extracted and if it is durable. As is difficult because there is no Korean importer.
Can someone explain why e61s can't do real electronic pre-infusion? Breville figured out how to do it a decade ago on machines costing a third of most high end e61s. What makes this difficult to do with a premium e61?
These e61s are a completely manual valve design Lelit does programmable pre-infusion in its VIP range, where flow valves are electric solenoid operated.
Not for me I am afraid. I guess it depends on your priorities but Lelit machines feel very cheaply put together in my opinon. Lots of thin metal, sharp edges and poor finish on exposed welds. The internals layout is messy too. I know you get interesting features but they are built to a price rather than a standard and it shows.
I’ve owned incredible machines like ECM, and while lelit may not have the complete build quality of one of those machine... they are built to last. You shouldn’t have any worries.
Yep... a good friend of mine has the Linea Mini and I was really lusting after it... but after comparing feature for feature as well as overall cost savings between the two the Bianca won out. I wondered at first if I made the right call... but now that I've had the Bianca for 6 months I'm happy to report I definitely made the right decision.
ECM Synchronika? Also has the standby-option and the capability to separately switch off the steamboiler. ECM Controvento? Profitec dual boilers? La Marzocco GS3? La Marzocco Linea Mini? These is always a risk if you say the BEST. Always say, in its class, at this pricepoint.
I stand by my statement! Taking it’s price and features into consideration I don’t think that any of those machines are a better HOME machine. Not saying there aren’t better machines out there
I do not recommend you set your steam boiler pressure to 2 bar. I have the v2 of this machine and I keep it at 1.5 always. With my other machine (VBM Domobar 2B), I set the pressure to just a bit over 2 bar and at full unwind the steam blasts to over 4 feet. lol! Good review man! Even better cinematography! The difference is that this is rotary, it purring like kitten, VBM is vibrating and louder.
@@johannesegger5428 Hahaha, true! The thing is that Dalla Corte Mina is an expensive machine for anyone that can buy it. Of course, at that price point I can go to another option, but is an example of how big this market is! 😂😂😂😂
Yep... love the Linea Mini but the Bianca won me over. Why? The paddle looking device on a La Marzocco Linea Mini is actually nothing more than the on /off switch for the pump. You have to move up to the to La Marzocco GS/3 (at almost 3 times the price of the Bianca) to get flow control. If you shopped around over the last year or so you'll see almost all major producers of machines e.g., ECM, Profitec, Rocket etc... now offer their machines with a flow control device or kit so you can retrofit one of their older models. Although these machines are now offered with flow control, the control is nothing more than an aftermarket add-on made available by the manufacturers so they can compete with the latest trend of flow control, whereas the Leit Binca (like the Slayer and GS/3) were designed and calibrated from the ground up as a true flow control machines. Granted, the Slayer and the GS/3 launched flow control, which is the latest and greatest advancement in espresso machine design... but their price is a little steep for the average home consumer. To really appreciate the advantage of flow control, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/AlKT1u-3lGU/w-d-xo.html
@@eltonnoway7864 not correct! E61 can easily be fit with flow control. All of them! Please don’t compare it to slyer witch have a needle valve nothing like the flow restriction on the E61. Also the Lelit it’s not with a saturated group head... Please be real it’s not like them but it is a vary good machine for the price.
@@kadrav I was only attempting to help the OP with their Bianca vs Linea Mini dilemma. I never said the E61 couldn't be fitted with flow control in fact I said many manufacturers "now offer their machines with a flow control device "or kit" so you can retrofit one of their older models." That said you are 100% correct I failed to identify the Linea Mini has a saturated group head whereas the Leit does not. That said, while saturated groupheads have superior temperature stability they are also slightly more sensitive to overshoots, albeit a much smaller offset than an E61 group. The E61 group has a very large thermal mass which makes it less efficient and more prone to undershoot. Either way plenty of espresso experts have agreeded they can't taste a difference between the two. So its still tough hard to justify an additional $2500 for the Linea Mini over the Lelit except for the fact the Linea Mini is built like a tank and will work for decades whereas the Lelit is a lightweight with a still unknown life expectancy.
Just bought this machine and you describe it very well, but man, you sound (and look with all the gestures) like you just completed a presentation training class for salesmen and now want to apply all those “great recommendations” at the same time :) It’s a youtube review, not a sales pitch in front of the company board, take it easy and be natural :)
It does seem like a sales pitch, but after reading only positive things about the machine. I’m sure he’s just good at what he does and genuinely loves his machine
To my eye, he was natural. Obviously you haven’t tried it. It’s funny how when you’re in front of a camera ppl can stiffen up and not act normally. Some folks take classes for years to get it (actors for instance). Kyle I thought you were natural. I assumed that was the way you always were when you were excited sharing something that you also liked. Don’t change a thing. You’re great!
i really want this machine but really struggling to justify the cost to myself. i know if i get the marax i'll regret not getting this. why did they not make a marax with the LCC?!
@@danielwolman yeah! I’ve got a 5 tips for espresso video where I’m brewing on the Bianca. But my advice would be to avoid the flow control until you’ve dialled in your espresso.
Can you expound more on your qualms about the drip tray? Based on the dimensions, it’s definitely larger (proportional to the entire machine) compared to other E61 machines’ drip trays
Hey! My issue with the drip tray isn’t size but build quality. It uses thin stainless steel, and the grate isn’t as thoughtful in design compared to machines like the Profitec pro 700 or ECM Synchronika. It lacks the finish quality of those machines.
@@KyleRowsell I see, does it feel like it’ll bend anytime soon? Planning on buying this machine and I wouldn’t want my drip tray showing dents or the like within a year or so haha
I can assure you it will not bend. It’s still very high quality metal. The drip tray alone is not a reason to avoid the Bianca, it’s still better than many other machines that use plastic or cheep metal. I’m simply sharing my small critiques of the machine.
I had to buy one bottomless portafilter as well. And thinking about the Bianca instead of the Mara X. Just because I would spend 200€ on the wood Porta filter upgrade kit 🤪😂 Germans are attracted to bottomless beauty as well! 😎
It’s impressive for sure albeit that visible digital display right on the front (looks cheap) the Rocket Mozzafiato is a nicer looking machine by far....albeit it’s an HX. For the money though the Bianca is amazing value
I agree this is the best value machine in the market .. but some of the features you said it's exclusive to Bianca are already there in other machines .. standby mode is called Echo in ECM Synchronika .. But thanks for the great review .. It is the best home espresso machine..
I was considering the Lelit Bianca but it was kinda out of my price range, and I'm not a "real barista" so I stayed away.😉 Anyways, I bought an Ascaso Steel duo PID, and are actually quite happy with it. But annoys me to no end that no bottomless portafilter was included. I had to buy one, and I could not find one in the original walnut handle that came with the machine, just cheap plastic. I guess you get what you pay for.. Anyways, nice review👌. Looking forward to a video about flow control.
Depends on what it’s being used for! But I would agree the decent has some better features. But I wouldn’t say it’s a better machine. Especially not for the average user. 😊
I was thinking the same thing. Hard to know he wasn’t compensated for this. It was really over the top and you can tell he was reading from something....🤔
@@davidd9045 you for real? Haha. TH-cam has a policy to disclose when you’re paid for something. I’m a small TH-cam and had 700 subs at the time of recording. Relaaaax 😂
@@davidd9045 I would never laugh at others! I just don’t appreciate being accused as a very small TH-camr of being payed for a review. It takes tireless work to create videos. Kindness goes a long way ☺️
@@KyleRowsell Because I got the Lelit! And I got a sette 270wi too. I expect it to be the last espresso machine I ever need. I used your link too so I hope clive has a good affiliate program.
Yikes - 51 seconds of music with in and out blurring views of the machine at multiple angles before he actually gets to the review. Whew! Besides that, its a really good overview. Fun game? If you're not afraid of alcohol poisoning... take a shot every time he says the word "beautiful".
In fact I don’t. I just enjoy their products. It’s law that I would disclose such information or partnership. And I’m not even sure they’ve watched this video. But thanks for watching.
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Hi, I'm from Malaysia, a proud owner of this beautiful machine. This is my best investment so far. Will be using this for ages. Looking forward for your flow profile videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, you r right its the best home espresso, best value for money, no other manufacturer can match with Bianca for the moment. Exelent video !!
Decent Espresso DE1+ is my choice
@@dimitrios2481 but it's a bit more expensive, so it's not in the same price range...
Dimitrios dream on
I am so glad, that i chose the Lelit Bianca! My wife was sceptical at first, but now she keeps asking me to make her coffee all the time. Whenever we have guests, they all want me to make them coffee every 10 minutes. That might be the only downside to the Lelit Bianca, people get addicted to it!
it's just beautiful to look at too.
Just pull the trigger on Lelit Bianca V3 because of your video. Can't wait for it to arrive and do a lot of experiment on it.
Any update?
Just took delivery on this. I agree that auto on should have been a feature. I also believe a configurable 20 amp capability would be desirable so appropriately wired installations would allow for simultaneous heating of both boilers.
That said, a big selling point for me on this product was the fact that it comes with a modular power cord that plugs into the back of the machine rather than being hard wired to it. My unit is positioned right next to my power outlet so I don’t need or want a 4 foot cord that I have to coil behind the machine. I can easily use an 18 or even a 12 inch cord to eliminate the kitchen clutter or, if I ever move it to a new location, I can easily replace it with a longer cord for that installation.
Well done Lelit, almost perfectly done.
Great response! Thank you.
Thanks for the review. It's been about a year since you did the review, and wondering how reliable it's been. My major concern about getting one are repairs and how hard DIY would be and availability of parts. Thanks
Machine works great and is easy to clean. Use it everyday
This is a very beautiful machine. I think the wood accents really make it stand out. It has a really polished design.
I love my Bianca as well. It is a great machine. Yes it has no timer, first I thought oh man that's sad.... But the Bianca had a real hardware on/off switch which is in many ways great. I use a TP Link Kasa wifi power plug... Now I can program the time for each day when Bianca has to switch on or off and I can switch it on manually by phone when I on the way back from Airport or work and want a cofe wheen I'm back home. Using the TP link I can control this machine via internet. Omg that's so great. And it is not more than 15 bugs.
Ive been really thinking for sometime and I think ima do it!
I've been using E-61 machines as well as other "prosumer" machines with 58mm portafiters since the early 1980's and have had the same naked PF since then (I made it by cutting the bottom off of a Brasilia Lady single PF, naked, aged brass & I wouldn't sell it for a thousand bucks). I currently have a Fiorenzato Bricoletta that I bought in the early 90's and I'm finally going to retire it and buy the Bianca!
05:10 onwards... You can achieve the same effect if you start your PID controlled E61 machine in steam mode. The much higher target temp allows the boiler to heat faster, because PID wont throttle at about 91° Celsius.(93° target temp). So my procedure for a fast late wake up morning coffee on a ECM Classika PID. 1. Switch on machine and select steam mode. 2. After 10 min the water in the boiler has about 106-110°. 3. Switch back to espresso mode and you are rdy to go. Of course this is a bit inpractical, but definitely works. To be totaly honest Im ok with a too cold first shot as Im always do at least two in the morning and Im also happy if the second is perfect and the first only does its job as a wakener:)
This would only work on a single-boiler machine, though.
Great review! Love this machine. I would disagree with the last point on the timer-on built in feature. At the moment, I'm using a smart plug to do that and that gave me a lot more flexibility, such as able to remotely turn on the machine using my mobile phone. I would not be able to turn on the machine using my phone with the timer-on feature built into the machine. Totally agree on the drip tray, although it was probably more practical than aesthetic. Nonetheless, I believe this is the best Home espresso machine on the market, especially for its features and price point! Thank you Brew At Home for this great video!
Excellent point Benny. What smart plug are you using?
@@JSPRE someone mentioned P Link Kasa wifi power plug
Does anyone know if the European model has the same on-off switch as North American, so it can be used with a smart plug. My Gaggia Classic Pro has spring on-off switch due to EU regulations so I had to change it in order to use smart plug. I believe in Bianca's case that is not an issue due to stand by function.
Hey Kyle, any teasers on when you're gonna do a flow control video? Thanks for the video!
Hey Jeff! Been working on one for a while. Trying to ensure the best recipes possible before I drop it.
@@KyleRowsell I would be interested in that as well!
Great review, and beautiful machine. I have an Expobar Brewtus; a lot of similar features, but no PID for the steam boiler, no real programming other than temperature. And it didn't come with flow profiling or a naked portafilter. I installed a flow control device; works well, but not as pretty as that walnut paddle.
Hello Kyle! Happy new year, wishing you all the best! I have a question regards Bianca, and i'm really looking forward to your thoughts. I have Lelit Bianca aswell, I've swiched my steaming wand's tip from 2 holes to 4, i've been practising now for 3 months, but no matter what I do or what milk I choose, i see big difference in my steamed milk - with 2 holes its micro foam, i cant see any bubbles, where's with 4 holes i cant reach that same micro foam level, its not bad, dont get me wrong, but bubbles are visible and its driving me nuts. My steam temp. is set to 125 C /257 F. Have you noticed any difference like that? What is your steaming temp? Thank you in advance, greetings from Europe!
Hi Kyle I just got the varia v3 grinder …amazing 😊
I got the ultra hyper burrs but havnt set them up yet
I think there supposed to be better on espresso
Do I need this machine? Nooo but do I want it? Yesss!!!!!
HA, isnt that the truth!
I just ordered one with the eureka because the niche wasn’t available anymore now hope i get it in 2-3 days ☺️☺️
Yehhhhhhhh, my eyes are fully focused on this being my endgame machine.
Awesome video. As a machine that's so well made and packed full of advanced features, how is it at such a competitive price point? Have Lelit made compromises anywhere to keep the price down?
Great question. The short answer is no. As the Bianca is still not cheep. But Lelit is a newer brand in espresso and while they’re making quality machines, you’re saving on the name of the brand. Now not to say they don’t design differently than other manufactures like ECM and Profitec. Their sheet metal could be argued to be thinner.
Kyle. Congrats on the bean in the roaster! You touched on it a little in your review, but could you expand on the pros/cons of the Bianca Vs Linea mini? Your clear, in-depth explanation could save me thousands, literally. I currently have the LUCCA A53 mini and was looking to step-up to something a little more robust in regards to plum/reservoir, larger boilers, 58mm group head and a few other things. Thanks in advance.
Hey Jasmin! Absolutely!
To quickly summarize, the LM is a fantastic machine, but you’re paying for the name and a few commercial features. For home use, the Linea mini isn’t necessary but rather a nice luxury.
That being said the Bianca is a fantastic machine for the price. It will pull a shot of the same quality to the Linea, but with the possibilities of flow profiling. This feature alone is worth going with the Bianca, in my opinion.
Either would be fantastic for the home barista.
@@KyleRowsell Thanks for the quick response. Great information. I definitely don’t won’t to over pay just because of the name. I want productivity for what I’m paying for. Thanks for saving me the extra cash!
Keep up the great work!
@@JSPRE which did u choose..i have never made espresso i am a complete beginner but im getting interested..which should i choose and do u have any advice on how to learn properly to use..tx
@@execatty I have decided to stick with my LUCCA for now. It is a great machine, does what I need and does it well. My advise to you would be to decide on two things and stick with them. 1) A budget. Very important. Don’t forget any “coffee tools” you may be considering as well. 2) Buy the machine that fits Your needs, not someone else’s preferences. 3) If the machine you want is out of your budget, save money to get the machine you want. 4) Be sure of what you want from your machine and look at machines with those features.
Hope this helps, if you want specifics on anything, including the coffee tools I use, my grinders, buyers remorse or anything else, I would be glad to help.
@@JSPRE I can afford anything reasonable.. Would love Linea mini.. But 5k little toomuch in principle.. Looked at lelita Bianca also.. 👍 But I and at least for now just looking to make for my girl and I.. Wanted niche zero grinder but they're sold out.. Keep the advice coming.. TX
Very thorough review. The Bianca was one of the finalists in my home espresso search, exactly because of its unmatched features that you highlighted at this price point. In the end I ended up going with the Lucca M58 mainly because of the 3 yr parts and labor warranty and the aesthetics which appealed more to me personally. The biggest trade-off which I had to make was passing on the flow control feature which I have heard is best in class on the Bianca as compared to other ones that have since become available for e61 machines. I am very happy with my choice and some day I may explore adding flow control to my setup. For now, I look forward to your videos on this feature and how it might enhance espresso in the cup. Subscribed.
No argument, the Lucca M58 is a beautiful piece of work but just to make sure there's no confusion... the Bianca also comes with a 3 year parts and labor warranty.
how it is after 1 yr?
Kyle, regarding your comment about the built-in timer that would enable an auto start-up when one is away or asleep, I tend to disagree if I am correct in my thinking. I could be wrong but with all the Smart Home products today by Apple, for example, wouldn’t it be possible to add the Lelit Bianca to a Smart Home device/electrical outlet to do the same thing as would a built-in timer? I don’t personally have one of these types of homes but from reading about them, it seems to be that this would be possible. I would enjoy comments from you and anyone watching this great review you gave on this beautiful espresso machine. By the way, this is the #1 espresso machine with an E-61 group head I am considering purchasing sometime next year along with the possibility of a super-automatic Jura E-8 or S-8 machine. You are absolutely correct about the quality of this machine.
Very thourough, I am definitely considering an upgrade from the Gaggia Classic next year and this is in the race. It's between Lelit, Profitec and ECM... Still don't know if I want dual or single boiler (don't make that many milk drinks, but maybe I would in the future)
That’s a tough decision for sure. I feel ya.
Recently upgraded from a PID'd GC to a DE1, and couldn't be happier. If you're mostly an espresso drinker, and really want to play around with extraction profiles no other machine is capable of (to my knowledge), I'd seriously consider a decent. Though the steam is no slouch either.
How would you rate it against the Breville dual boiler in 2022 ? Dual Boiler price in CAD seem to rise up. BDB is now 2600 before taxes.
Very nice video! I wonder what's maintenance for this machine. Like how often do you need to clean it, descale it.
I clean mine once a month. Descale isn’t recommended if using proper water like Third wave water or proper filtration. But if you must, take it to a proper dealer or technician.
@@KyleRowsell what does your cleaning process involve? Also, why not descale? Would love this machine, and wanting to upgrade soon, but not sure I could manage to install a water filtration system too. Soft water in my area and haven't had any problems with either of my DeLonghi Magnifica that I had for 6 years and my Barista Express that I've had for 2. I know that they are totally different and only appliance grade machines. Wouldn't want to go to a dealer to clean. Maybe I shouldn't get a dual boiler?
Call me spontaneous, but I took a closer look on the bianca after watching this, I was looking for a new machine, but had missed this one, just bought it, should arrive in a few days😁
Yo how you liking it?
@@LastAphelion honestly, It's expensive, but so worth it imo, I love it, it's just a bonus that it's beautiful:)
So I am considering the Bianca or the Profitec Pro 600. I think that on paper the Bianca is a better machine< but the Pro 600 is clearly got German engineering on its side and just seem rock solid. Id love your thoughts on the build quality and longevity? Also did you consider the Profitec machines?
What did you choose finally? I’m in the same situation right now and including the Profitec 600 with the flow control.
@@alfonsitohouse Bianca and I’m very happy. No complaints at all. I also got a Eureka XL grinder, also a good choice.
Excellent review Kyle. I have had a basic espresso machine for three years and been looking at stepping up the games. I have spent a lot of time on line researching machines and am leaning towards the Lelit Bianca. Anybody know of any local (Vancouver BC) distributors of this line? Would like to see one first hand prior to buying and would like to buy local.
Thank you for the review Kyle
Randy
Hi Kyle, great insightful video! I am in between the Bianca and the Rocket Apartamento. Leaning towards the Rocket, any arguments why that would be a mistake over the Bianca? Keep up the good work!
Hi! The apartemento is in a different price class than the Bianca. The rocket is a heat exchanger and the Bianca is a dual boiler. The Bianca is a better equipped machine but costs significantly more.
I would definitely take the Mara x instead of the appartamento.
It's great that it comes with the bottomless portafilter. I have a rocket appartemento and had to purchase a bottomless portafilter. It came with a single and double portafilter. I've never used the single portafilter
It's a really great addition
good video mate, though many statements mentioned are incorrect. A lot of E61 machines such as ECMs, Rocket, and Profitec have all the features and quality on the bianca, specially the auto standby features. The flow control is also available on all of those machines. never the less the bianca is an amazing home machine.
Hey brother! I don’t believe I mentioned that standby was exclusive to Bianca, but the flow control doesn’t come standard on those other models. Once added they can cost up to 1k more than the Bianca. So to my point, the Bianca is the best value in this category.
Hi kyle. Thank you for this amazing video 🤩 I would like to ask is there any way to make the water flow automatically instead of using the pre wetting option by myself? My second question is do I have to connect the machine with plumbed water connection to use the flow control function? Thank you 🙏🏻
Have the same question
I use a home automation with geo fencing. When I get within 20 minutes of the house the machine turns on. I also program the plug to auto shut down so the machine doesn't stay on for a long time. I can see the wattage consumption as well through the appliance module.
When the water is cold and the machine is cold, the wattage use is high. After a machine with a PID is hot and it's jut flicking the boiler element on and off, machines use much less power.
That’s pretty incredible!
@@KyleRowsell I didn’t do it for my current machine, I did it for a Ranciilio Silvia. PID modded it and added the appliance module. Wrote the scene for the geofencing .
I have multiple geofences, so when I get to the driveway it unlocks the doors and turns on lighting depending on time of day.
I have a Rocket Giotto Cronometro R. For me it came down to height and wattage.
I will add a profitec pressure profiling control soon. Plumbing it in wasn’t the cheapest...
About the "smart" purpose, i pleased that lelit uses a switch and not just a push button. So I can let it turned on and use a smart plug : in my case a shelly 2.5 directly put in the wall outlet. i can program it, it can use "Ok google, turn on the coffee machine", i can monitor the power consumption, i can turned on from my smartphone when i drive back to my home. All these features for just 20€ for a smart plug, to get far more feature that built-in "smart features"
Smart plugs are great!
Thanks for the complete review. I am ready to invest in such a machine, and this seems like a good option. Why people would go for the Rocket? Any advantage ? Thanks! (Also, which balance are you using in your video??)
well there are a few different rocket models. I think Lelit has an advantage on the rocket machines in almost every category. Rocket was made well known from retailers like Seattle coffee gear but there are better machines for the money.
@@KyleRowsell thanks! I was just wondering why people would not want more this one, as to me it seems like an amazing machine. Do you offer online class? You are so good at explaining thing, I would definitely subscribe to classes and learn when I will get my machine
rocket is a much older brand, therefore more well-known. but i have tried both machines, and i don't see the rocket having any advantage, it's louder and more "crude" looking. however the steam does seem to be stronger. that's it
Had the same question!
Why no programmable auto-on time? It seems like the new R58 has both eco shut off and auto on. I wish it had stainless boilers.
The new R58 has newer tech. Maybe we will see this with the bianca in the future?
@@KyleRowsell I'm really close to just getting the ECM Synchronika with flow control.
Hi Kyle, have you experienced any issues with the drip tray not catching water from the pressure release valve? Somebody posted in a group that they found a small puddle underneath the tray and was wondering if you'd had a similar experience. They may not have put the tray in correctly though. Cheers.
I haven’t experienced this! Mine catches fine.
@@KyleRowsell that's good to know. Thanks. I live in New Zealand and have been waiting for the Profitec Pro 600 to come into the country. This caught my eye and has now become a serious contender for my hard earned dollars. Love your videos and positivity. All the best Kyle.
Lelit should hire you cause I'm sold! :)
I like that it doesn't have a timer function. Less thing to break down the line. Smart adapter would do fine.
what do you guys think about Lelit Bianca vs Rocket Cinquantotto R58? in my country Lelit is cheaper by $800, comes around $2700. will i miss anything by choosing Lelit? i like both the same, and it seems like Rocket have more prestigious brand but $800 can be put into a good grinder.
I am going to buy this coffee machine, but I do not have too much information. I want to know if this product can be continuously extracted and if it is durable. As is difficult because there is no Korean importer.
Superbly done, fun and informative, great music too, thank you
Can someone explain why e61s can't do real electronic pre-infusion? Breville figured out how to do it a decade ago on machines costing a third of most high end e61s. What makes this difficult to do with a premium e61?
These e61s are a completely manual valve design Lelit does programmable pre-infusion in its VIP range, where flow valves are electric solenoid operated.
Not for me I am afraid. I guess it depends on your priorities but Lelit machines feel very cheaply put together in my opinon. Lots of thin metal, sharp edges and poor finish on exposed welds. The internals layout is messy too. I know you get interesting features but they are built to a price rather than a standard and it shows.
I’ve owned incredible machines like ECM, and while lelit may not have the complete build quality of one of those machine... they are built to last. You shouldn’t have any worries.
Have you tried, Linea Mini, GS3 or Slayer 1group?
I have! Almost bought the Linea, but purchased this machine instead.
Yep... a good friend of mine has the Linea Mini and I was really lusting after it... but after comparing feature for feature as well as overall cost savings between the two the Bianca won out. I wondered at first if I made the right call... but now that I've had the Bianca for 6 months I'm happy to report I definitely made the right decision.
@@KyleRowsell you can come play around with the GS3 MP anytime you like 🙃
@@SarpSD we need to make that happen.
@@SarpSD GS3 is a class of its own. Also 4 times the cost.
ECM Synchronika? Also has the standby-option and the capability to separately switch off the steamboiler.
ECM Controvento?
Profitec dual boilers?
La Marzocco GS3?
La Marzocco Linea Mini?
These is always a risk if you say the BEST. Always say, in its class, at this pricepoint.
I stand by my statement! Taking it’s price and features into consideration I don’t think that any of those machines are a better HOME machine. Not saying there aren’t better machines out there
You would just have to put in that nuance, as price indeed is an issue.
That could make your claim more on point 😊.
I do not recommend you set your steam boiler pressure to 2 bar. I have the v2 of this machine and I keep it at 1.5 always. With my other machine (VBM Domobar 2B), I set the pressure to just a bit over 2 bar and at full unwind the steam blasts to over 4 feet. lol! Good review man! Even better cinematography! The difference is that this is rotary, it purring like kitten, VBM is vibrating and louder.
If you don’t care about money, Dalla Corte Mina! Is $8,500, but is awesome!
At that cost, I‘d rather buy a GS3 ...
@@johannesegger5428 Hahaha, true! The thing is that Dalla Corte Mina is an expensive machine for anyone that can buy it. Of course, at that price point I can go to another option, but is an example of how big this market is! 😂😂😂😂
Great review! Makes me considering switching from wanting a Linea Mini 😉
Almost
Yep... love the Linea Mini but the Bianca won me over. Why? The paddle looking device on a La Marzocco Linea Mini is actually nothing more than the on /off switch for the pump. You have to move up to the to La Marzocco GS/3 (at almost 3 times the price of the Bianca) to get flow control. If you shopped around over the last year or so you'll see almost all major producers of machines e.g., ECM, Profitec, Rocket etc... now offer their machines with a flow control device or kit so you can retrofit one of their older models. Although these machines are now offered with flow control, the control is nothing more than an aftermarket add-on made available by the manufacturers so they can compete with the latest trend of flow control, whereas the Leit Binca (like the Slayer and GS/3) were designed and calibrated from the ground up as a true flow control machines. Granted, the Slayer and the GS/3 launched flow control, which is the latest and greatest advancement in espresso machine design... but their price is a little steep for the average home consumer.
To really appreciate the advantage of flow control, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/AlKT1u-3lGU/w-d-xo.html
For twice the price of the Bianca, it’s hard to justify
@@eltonnoway7864 not correct! E61 can easily be fit with flow control. All of them! Please don’t compare it to slyer witch have a needle valve nothing like the flow restriction on the E61. Also the Lelit it’s not with a saturated group head... Please be real it’s not like them but it is a vary good machine for the price.
@@kadrav I was only attempting to help the OP with their Bianca vs Linea Mini dilemma. I never said the E61 couldn't be fitted with flow control in fact I said many manufacturers "now offer their machines with a flow control device "or kit" so you can retrofit one of their older models." That said you are 100% correct I failed to identify the Linea Mini has a saturated group head whereas the Leit does not. That said, while saturated groupheads have superior temperature stability they are also slightly more sensitive to overshoots, albeit a much smaller offset than an E61 group. The E61 group has a very large thermal mass which makes it less efficient and more prone to undershoot. Either way plenty of espresso experts have agreeded they can't taste a difference between the two. So its still tough hard to justify an additional $2500 for the Linea Mini over the Lelit except for the fact the Linea Mini is built like a tank and will work for decades whereas the Lelit is a lightweight with a still unknown life expectancy.
Thank you for the review. Is the Boiler Stainless steel or copper?
Just bought this machine and you describe it very well, but man, you sound (and look with all the gestures) like you just completed a presentation training class for salesmen and now want to apply all those “great recommendations” at the same time :) It’s a youtube review, not a sales pitch in front of the company board, take it easy and be natural :)
It does seem like a sales pitch, but after reading only positive things about the machine. I’m sure he’s just good at what he does and genuinely loves his machine
To my eye, he was natural. Obviously you haven’t tried it. It’s funny how when you’re in front of a camera ppl can stiffen up and not act normally.
Some folks take classes for years to get it (actors for instance).
Kyle I thought you were natural. I assumed that was the way you always were when you were excited sharing something that you also liked.
Don’t change a thing. You’re great!
i really want this machine but really struggling to justify the cost to myself. i know if i get the marax i'll regret not getting this. why did they not make a marax with the LCC?!
The MaraX is beautiful! Maybe get the Mara and if not what you hoped (which I. Sure it will be) upgrade in a few years when you budget for it?
@@KyleRowsell i got the lelit bianca
@@danielwolman Congrats!
@@KyleRowsell thanks! any new user tips? Its a big step up from my silvia
@@danielwolman yeah! I’ve got a 5 tips for espresso video where I’m brewing on the Bianca. But my advice would be to avoid the flow control until you’ve dialled in your espresso.
Can you expound more on your qualms about the drip tray? Based on the dimensions, it’s definitely larger (proportional to the entire machine) compared to other E61 machines’ drip trays
Hey! My issue with the drip tray isn’t size but build quality. It uses thin stainless steel, and the grate isn’t as thoughtful in design compared to machines like the Profitec pro 700 or ECM Synchronika. It lacks the finish quality of those machines.
@@KyleRowsell I see, does it feel like it’ll bend anytime soon? Planning on buying this machine and I wouldn’t want my drip tray showing dents or the like within a year or so haha
I can assure you it will not bend. It’s still very high quality metal. The drip tray alone is not a reason to avoid the Bianca, it’s still better than many other machines that use plastic or cheep metal. I’m simply sharing my small critiques of the machine.
I had to buy one bottomless portafilter as well. And thinking about the Bianca instead of the Mara X. Just because I would spend 200€ on the wood Porta filter upgrade kit 🤪😂 Germans are attracted to bottomless beauty as well! 😎
Will a 20 amp circuit be enough?
Yes it should be fine
It’s built for 20 amps
How about MaraX?
That’s a GREAT machine.
It is a very beautiful machine !!!
It’s impressive for sure albeit that visible digital display right on the front (looks cheap) the Rocket Mozzafiato is a nicer looking machine by far....albeit it’s an HX. For the money though the Bianca is amazing value
I agree this is the best value machine in the market .. but some of the features you said it's exclusive to Bianca are already there in other machines .. standby mode is called Echo in ECM Synchronika .. But thanks for the great review .. It is the best home espresso machine..
Hey! I don't believe I said these features were exclusive to the Bianca? But features present on this machine. I could be wrong.
Review without make espresso 🤔!?
Profitec Pro 700 is a similar machine ;)
You're not wrong!
Songs name on intro?
its a lovely machine.. it really is.
I was considering the Lelit Bianca but it was kinda out of my price range, and I'm not a "real barista" so I stayed away.😉 Anyways, I bought an Ascaso Steel duo PID, and are actually quite happy with it. But annoys me to no end that no bottomless portafilter was included. I had to buy one, and I could not find one in the original walnut handle that came with the machine, just cheap plastic. I guess you get what you pay for..
Anyways, nice review👌. Looking forward to a video about flow control.
I hear you! And I’ve been there. A good Bottomless can be hard to find.
No answer the title of this video.... No.
Ecm synchronika with upgraded ism precision shower screen and quick mill flow control is
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
You sold me.
I absolutely CANNOT make a good tasting cup of espresso from this thing and i dont know what I’m doing wrong because I think I’m doing so much wrong
What grinder are you using?
Are you using a scale?
@@The_Kev lmaooo I’m using the specialtia and yes I use a scale I don’t just grind beans like a mad man and eyeball it!
Obviously more expensive and very different type of machine, but I would argue the the DE1+ is substantially better.
Depends on what it’s being used for! But I would agree the decent has some better features. But I wouldn’t say it’s a better machine. Especially not for the average user. 😊
ECM Synchronika
This review is LeLit
Aha I see what you did there
Looks exactly like the Rocket Appartemento
Hey Kevin! That’s because they are both E61 group head machines.
How much did you get from Lelit for this commercial?
Zero, as it’s not a commercial and it’s a review of my personal unit that I’ve owned for a year.
I was thinking the same thing. Hard to know he wasn’t compensated for this. It was really over the top and you can tell he was reading from something....🤔
@@davidd9045 you for real? Haha. TH-cam has a policy to disclose when you’re paid for something. I’m a small TH-cam and had 700 subs at the time of recording. Relaaaax 😂
@@KyleRowsell just saying it’s the impression you give off. Maybe listen to others perspective so you can get more subs instead of laughing at them 🧐
@@davidd9045 I would never laugh at others! I just don’t appreciate being accused as a very small TH-camr of being payed for a review. It takes tireless work to create videos. Kindness goes a long way ☺️
Welp, there goes $3,000.00
Hah why’s that?
@@KyleRowsell Because I got the Lelit! And I got a sette 270wi too. I expect it to be the last espresso machine I ever need. I used your link too so I hope clive has a good affiliate program.
@@A.C.Lawrence ah, that’s amazing. And thanks friend. Much appreciated
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Yikes - 51 seconds of music with in and out blurring views of the machine at multiple angles before he actually gets to the review. Whew! Besides that, its a really good overview.
Fun game? If you're not afraid of alcohol poisoning... take a shot every time he says the word "beautiful".
Double tap to fast forward 😉
Nope
3000 bucks for a home espresso machine, for that price I can get a used La Pavoni or San Remo 2 group industrial espresso machine.
And how much better is the espresso going to be? 🤔
@@KyleRowsell Italian Coffee Shop Grade.
@@ThePathbauer and the hand built Italian lelit Bianca won’t be? What makes those machines better?
It s patently clear that Kyle has a relationship with Lelit
In fact I don’t. I just enjoy their products. It’s law that I would disclose such information or partnership. And I’m not even sure they’ve watched this video. But thanks for watching.
I wanted to buy this car, but since Lelit, do not stop their activities in Russia and help various illegal deliveries. I will look for something else.