Rivian R1T Range Test - Crushed the EPA Rating!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ย. 2022
- I rented a Rivian R1T for the weekend to do a full review. During the filming, I was planning a simple range test of 50-100 miles and then extrapolate the results to determine estimated real world range.
The problem is that the Rivian R1T was showing extremely efficient numbers after 70 miles. At that time I decided I needed to know for sure what the full range was on this truck, so I charged to 100% and drove until the R1T said 0 miles left.
The Rivian R1T is rated at 314 miles on a full charge. The wheels on this particular truck deduct 21 miles of range, so in reality, this truck should be able to travel 293 miles on a full charge. The thing is, this truck far surpassed that number in my test.
I drove the truck a constant 70 MPH, except for turnarounds, and for the last 10 miles. I had the A/C set to 72 degrees and the outside temp was between 82 and 95 degrees during the test. I also got stuck in a rain storm for about 10 miles of the trip. Finally, I set the R1T to Conserve Mode, lowered the suspension all the way, and set it to firm.
In the end, I was able to deplete the battery all the way down to 0% or 0 miles, and consumed 125 kWh of energy. When arriving at the charger, I was unfortunately greeted by a line of cars waiting to charge, which made me sit there with the A/C on for another 35 minutes, consuming another 1 kWh, for a total of 126 kWh.
I was shocked that the Rivian R1T was able to not only meet the EPA number, but far exceed it. Again, this was with the upgraded wheels that should have hurt range by 21 miles.
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Awesome (real world in many ways) range test! Nice to see the outcome being very positive above EPA estimates/rating. Looking forward to understanding the battery health/longevity of Rivian’s solutions with BMS over time. Also exciting to see the charging infrastructure continue to grow. Thanks for all your videos!
Cheers
So excited for this video!! 🎉🎉
Cheers
Wow, I am so exited to see my husband’s car at your video!!! We love Rivian!!!
Haha. It was an amazing truck for the weekend
The interior is very nice. Great video brother.
Cheers
Great video and nice to see a local in my neighborhood.
Cheers
@@BeardedTeslaGuy unfortunately I still go to that Ractrack across from Loves gas station coming home from Disney 😂
I love that you moved to Florida so when you do these kind of tests I can relate.
Haha I love that I loved to Florida also!
I think the EPA testing is done in All Purpose Mode, not Conserve mode. That probably explains much of the difference. Nonetheless, it's nice to see it's possible to get that much range!!
All auto makers except Tesla do the 2 required test. Tesla does all 5 tests for less discount factor
This is the opposite of Tesla. They claim 315 miles of range for the Model 3, best I've ever been able to get is 280 at 70mph.
Yea it’s very different
Don’t forget, Rivian fudges the speedometer (5-7%) reading fast. Also, same for actual miles traveled. This changes the whole test. They finally admitted this. Claiming this fall they will do software update to correct. Which will crank owners off once they realize, the numbers have been skewed “VW style”.
@@johnross6314 Big claims require big evidence. What is your evidence for this claim? Either way, both speed and distance traveled can be quickly verified with GPS. The content creator of this video can just turn their phone on and go for a little drive to verify or deny your claims.
@@ganymede3141 next time, Bearded one will use independent GPS. There are videos of this on SubStack and other places. You will find the evidence, if you choose to look deeper.
There is another post about this on this content comments. This is becoming a not so secret item. However, since Rivian is still a low volume producer, not as much focus on this particular item.
@@johnross6314 I'm not going to go digging for evidence to support YOUR claims. The burden of proof is on YOU, bud. If this was a real issue, I'm sure there would be lots of YT videos about it exposing the fraud, instead of anecdotal evidence of 'my cousin's uncle's great-granddad's college roommate heard about this while standing in line at 7/11.'
Very nice. Kyle from out of spec did this as well. So far none of the test has I’ve seen have been on the most efficient tires offered. I’m looking forward to more test on the r1s and then I think I’ll make the electric plung (and get that vechile in 3 years from the order date 😭)
Yea the wait is pretty intense lol
I think in areas near where I live ( a lot of hills ) it would be closer to 300 miles. But a great video and thank you for doing this test! Seems like Rivian might be taking a page out of Porsche's book!
Yea they did good on this one
Pretty epic stuff. I laughed when the autopilot went off near the Walmart truck.
Just wouldn’t work for me
I like Rivian despite its early productions problems and vehicle gremlins. Deal breaker for me is the closest service station is 110 miles and 2 hour drive away and Mobile service is very limited and long wait times. Also now putting a deposit down does not lock in pricing. Delivery estimates are 2024. Price will probably increase $10k or more by then. Are there a bunch of service centers near you in Florida?
Apologies for the unrelated question to your video.
My full self driving package does not work at night. Will this be fixed by a download or do I need to put my model Y in for service?
Doesn’t work? Doesn’t sound right. Check with service
Great test. I would be curious to know what kind of range hit there would be for cruising at 75 or 80mph which are more real world for the interstate (as evidenced by the all of the cars blowing past you as your cruised at 70mph 🙂).
Yea I cruise at 80 mph myself
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Amazing!
Most highways in Canada are only 100kmh some are 120kmh none are 130kmh 80mph
@@BeardedTeslaGuy did use All purpose mode or Conserve mode?
Great video!!!
BTG's mean speed was 61mph or almost exactly 100kph.
Nice test! Have you done this for the Long Range Model Y? Maybe I missed that one? Thanks.
Yea a long time ago. I got 260 miles before the battery was increased to 329 miles
How did you like that charger at Loves in Davenport? That truck stop sucks! I live in the Tampa area myself nice seeing familiar sights on your drive.
It was ok. Not enough chargers as you can see
Was there any issue with the central FL summer sun shining through the roof glass since there isn’t a shade that closes? Thanks.
Yea, this one was tinted pretty heavily but it was strong
Wow! Exceeding EPA is great to see at highway speed. I had to do a 200 mile drive in my MY and I charged to 98% and it said I had to keep below 70mph to make it 🫣.
Yea big difference
Keep note on the total weight of the R1T at over 7100lbs….it’s got a lot of battery weight compared to any EV. I am so anxious to see the CT!!
You can't extrapolate short range trips in the Rivian, because the trip meter only uses the rounded kwH number in it's mi/kwh calculation. This discrepancy washes out over longer distances, but really distorts the efficiency number for trips less than 100 mi.
Yea, it wasn’t meant to be real, just an idea but I had to do the real drive after seeing high numbers from the shorter trip
Have you done this same test in your model Y and 3 to see how it compares to the EPA? Also, can confirm about the model Y wood trim added to the doors that you reported a couple weeks ago!
Yea I did in our last model y and it was 260 miles. But the epa number back then was 316
@@BeardedTeslaGuy wow big difference in the wrong direction! Crazy about Rivian. The truck looks awesome and mileage is great!
Wow nice test run. And to think I drive around that area many times. I4 between Orlando and Tampa is always a mess with traffic. Could be a better choice going to Deltona Beach the north or south on 95.
Yea I had to decide and hope traffic wasn’t going to be an issue
Great video. I am replacing my myp with r1t. Reserved when it was 70k.
Nice you locked in the older price
Brother,
Loved the fun test and drama!
What did the computer say your Wh/mi were on the trip???
Cheers, Eric
It was around 2.7 mi/kWh
@@BeardedTeslaGuy
So to compare to my Model Y ... the Rivian at 2.7 mi/kWh ... (1/2.700)*1000 = 370wh/mi in Tesla computer speak. 😉
My Model Y mostly in chill mode on last trip of 2,435 miles uses 655kWh of energy and returned 269 Wh/mi.
Seems the weight and maybe mostly the Cd on the Rivian must be high. I just can't wait to see what the Giant CyberTruck returns! 😀
By the way... my M-Y LIFETIME use with higher speeds, and boat/trailer towing of 18,202 miles used 5,371 kWh of energy and Ave. Energy is 295 Wh/mi.
Cheers, Eric
A good comparison would be range tests using all of the drive modes seeing how much of a difference they make and Aalso a test with worst case scenario vs best case
That’s a ton of driving
Excellent test! Thanks for posting. What were the wheels and tires on the vehicle? I'm sure you said that, but I missed it.
22” street wheels/tires
@@BeardedTeslaGuy That’s spectacular. That’s what I ordered. So I’m very pleased. Thanks again for the test and for posting the results!
The 21" wheels make about 350+ real world. Pretty awesome
Yea, I wish I had one with those wheels on now. Crazy good range
BTG Rain in Florida is an afternoon right of passage, it rains everyday this time of year. I have been living the dream in Florida since 2004 non-stop…
I’m loving the dream so far!
I want to see this test with the standard 21" wheels. Pretty awesome though. thanks.
Me too
Not that it probably added a lot of miles, but does it list out what was added from regen?
I don’t see where it would show that but yea would be interesting to see. On the highway it would be very minimal. Around town it would be quite a bit
Great job - thx! Seems like Rivian underpromises and overdelivers with their range numbers. I know that the Rivian
was rented - but I would love to watch a max-range-test with a trip through towns and backroads with a bit up and down. Curious how this would play out… Anyway - thx again!
Cheers
Where are you charging it ( I mean fast charging for Non Tesla’s ? How much is the time/cost difference compare to Tesla super chargers to charge it till 80% ?
It’s electrify America charger. It’s .43/kWh without a membership. I think it’s .10 cheaper with a paid membership
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Much appreciated for your response.
If the display said the battery was at 0%, how were you able to get an additional 35 mins of air conditioning?
Because there is a buffer
Whoa dude. Im a little jealous at that range. My new Model X LR will surely not go that far.
Yea it did phenomenal
Do you program in the wheel & tire size to re calibrate the speedo & odometer?
No it’s done already
Did you charge back to 100% at the charger and if so, what was the cost and how long did it take?
I think I pulled the plug at like 90%. Cost was $58 to charge to that.
Tesla better be bringing its Cyber Monster soon 😂😂😂. Nice test, loved the line scene at EA; that should have been filmed IMO. People need to know the state of adoption of electric mobility and its impact on chargers. EA should start installing 10 chargers per location IMO.
Yea there’s a lot of work to be done. Those charging stations didn’t used to have lines
Nice test. Rivian is looking very promising. Next maybe you should try and get a hold of Hyundai Ionic 5.
Hyundai is on the list
@@BeardedTeslaGuy it was my runner up to My Tesla Model Y. Have you done any research in Áptera?
When are you putting in your reservation? ;) I put mine in.. Just got a Model Y performance last month. Actually I heard this R1X Rivian is supposed to be even more insane
I reserved an R1S a while ago
@@BeardedTeslaGuy haha nice!
I love the truck and have one on order. I also have the Cybertruck on order but I prefer the look of the Rivian. However the CCS network has me very worried. I fear that by the time I can get my R1T the amount of Ioniq 5s and EV6s on the road will make CCS charging an incredible nightmare on road trips. I often drive my Model 3 to VT and when I stop to supercharge I check the CCS chargers I would have to use if I owned the R1T. Often at least half are offline according to their apps and those that are working are in use. I have been driving my Model 3 to VT for over four years now. I had to wait for a supercharger twice. One time I waited eight minutes and the second I waited two minutes. If this keeps going the way I fear I will own a Cybertruck and that makes me a little sad even though I love my Model 3.
Public charging is the issue. It HAS to get better.
Is the air conditioning on?
What is the range when you carry something heavy back?
Less
Have you noticed a lot of self discharging? Alex on autos estimated 2kw/day loss just sitting parked
No because it’s just a rental. Didn’t have it long enough to tell
Looks like the steering wheel is off! Great looking truck.
It needed an alignment is all
I had the same problem with my 2021 Y performance and Tesla service in Orlando took care of it. Thanks for responding.
which style of Ray Bans are those?
Pretty sure these are the Justin's
Just gonna make Cyber Truck that much more sweet once it makes market. Valiant effort Rivian. Way to push it BTG!
Hope the Cybertruck has a monster battery. Real world 300+ is great
@@BeardedTeslaGuy It'll be rated at over 500 and get 400. Still cant wait to get mine.
More excited about the RAM EV. 500 miles seems to be their target too with a 2024 release.
@@sethmisaelhernandez5902 Good Luck
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Do any Tesla's get real world 300+?
hi how did you rent ? was it from turo? would like information thanks
Yea on Turo
@@BeardedTeslaGuy which city?
Yeah, I looked…none on Turo that I could find. BTW, I briefly thought about putting my R1S there when I get my Launch Edition delivered….then I read some forums about how people would treat and and that is now a big NOPE from me.
Nice work! What is the charging cost difference between Tesla and Rivian in your experience? I have heard it varies greatly depending whether it’s electrify America or another company.
It depends on the charger. This one was .43/kWh. They have a paid membership that reduces it to .33/kWh
I see you rented on Turo. Which city?
Orlando
Where do you rent cars like this?! I've been trying to find a place to rent Teslas. I've had no luck with Enterprise.
Turo is a great place to look. Think Airbnb for cars
@@knappsimon Great, thanks! Just booked a 2022 Model 3 Performance for 4 days in the next two weeks. It's my first time ever driving a Tesla...or even an EV for that matter.
I guess renting a Tesla will be as close to owning one as I can get, they're just too expensive.
Turo
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Thanks!
Waiting for the Lucid Air review
Haha maybe some day!
BRG!
Haha
Nice test R1S next?
Would be really nice!
What charging network did you use?
Electrify America
@@BeardedTeslaGuy sorry... Yeah, saw that after I commented. 😂
Wow!!
Yea it was good
Better test might be at 75 mph considering you were getting passed by everyone like you were sitting still. "real world" range is generally at "keep up with traffic" speeds. Plus, with Rivian's speedo being off by 3-4 MPH, you were likely actually only going 66 MPH. Don't know what the speed limit is, but looks like traffic was in the 75 MPH range. Would like to see what it would be at that speed as they would be more representative of how most people will drive. In any case, yes, the Rivian does do quite well on range. I was impressed on mine at how close it came to the range showing on the screen. After years in a Tesla and being used to getting closer to 75% of actual range (versus what the car showed), I actually was able to go further in the Rivian than I did with the Tesla. I was at 77-80 MPH (real speed, not Rivian speedo speed) and got around 255 miles on 20 inch all-terrains. Was very happy with that.
That means almost 400 miles range in every day driving
Its possible, assuming its not super hot out and you can drive longer stretches in 45-50 mph.
Just to point out, you weren't actually going 70mph, because the Rivian currently overstates the speedo by 5%, so you were actually going 66-67mph. This buffer is getting reduced in the update coming out in the next few days.
Amen Bro. They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Bad PR news.
The odometer is also off by decent amount. Adds 5-8% mileage over what was traveled.
@@johnross6314 No that’s not accurate. The odometer is true, only the reported speed is affected.
@@johnross6314 No that’s not accurate either. It’s common for all automakers to overstate speedos to some degree to avoid liability issues. There’s nothing to see here, other than to point out this was technically a 67mph range test.
Yea I’m sure there is a difference. But all range tests will be based on speedo stated speed
These videos would be way better with your kids. Can we vote to exchange the beard for kids lol
Haha
Great video. Shame its got so few views and no Tesla Fan Boy will see it (whoops sorry is that a bad thing to say) as I know there is only one EV car making like only one god
So many good EVs finally arriving, this one is no exception! Other than price, this thing is a great option
@@BeardedTeslaGuy That's the problem with Rivian - the price and issues with roof glass and with tonneau cover. I think it really puts it in another price category along with the larger battery (twice that of Model Y). And that's why it's really not comparable to a Model Y LR. But if you can afford 25K extra on top of the price of a Model Y LR than this is a great option.
LR model y with 4 adults max I could do 190 miles 🤦🏻♂️
Yea Tesla isn’t hitting close to posted numbers. But to be fair, this trucks battery is almost twice the size of the Y lol
Tesla's just aren't cutting it with the range. Elon needs to step it up.
You should've rented one with 21" wheels. Those ones get better range.
By the way, the pullover may have shed 1 mile of range.
This was the only 1 in the entire city
Bearded Rivian?
Lol no! New name will not be brand specific
70 mph indicated speed is NOT the same as 70 mph GPS speed. That's true for most vehicles. You should have used app like Waze to double check the GPS speed. Most likely 73 mph indicated is real 70.
Also, 61 mph average speed (58 mph real average) is way too slow for a 70 mph test
Maybe Tesla will start to be more honest and realistic about the range of all their models - all of which are rated about 50-60 miles higher than they should be.
What part of avoid draining battery to zero do you TH-camrs not understand? Perhaps the info in the owners manual doesn’t apply to you?
its to show people so they know. You can absolutely drain the battery, you just should not do it if you can avoid it.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Is it possible for EV manufacturers to implement something that voids battery warranty if abusing battery?
Something like a trip counter on the dash or app that shows the number of charging cycles, # of times 🔋 charged over 90% & over 95% and discharged below 10% & below 5%
it doesn't matter in this case, it was a rental vehicle
Outstanding job. So Rivian and Porsche underrate their range and Tesla slightly overrates theirs. Has this Tesla fanboy got it correct?
Lol, yes and no. Porsche, and presumably Rivian, have reduced their tested range. Tesla is the only one that does the 5 various tests to determine range, which gives them an EPA rating advantage. The rest only do the 2 tests required, which has a bigger discount factor
Auyyyy there’s a line! Sign me up I want one🥴 1% EVs in US. That line situation is gonna get a lot worse if we even make it to 10%. Today coming home from work and seeing all the pickups pulling campers and boats and pulling in and out of the gas station I can’t imagine what that would have been like if those trucks were electric 😬 what I imagine is that old king fords charcoal commercial when people are camped out and grilling on the highways.
More chargers will be installed when more evs are on the road same thing happened with gas stations they weren't built before the cars where
They didn’t stop installing chargers yesterday…
Guys…and the chargers generate the electric themselves?!?😆🥴 Did you all not just see Cali flex alert?! And Europeans face similar costs “fueling” an EV as they did fueling an ice car?!…You guys have no comprehension of just how much power EVs need and the amount of power you need to transfer at a DC fast to compete with fuel up cycle times of a current ice vehicle? That’s just the environment I want to live in decide do I want Heat/AC at home or do I want to fuel my car. And we have even got into class 8 EVs yet😬
Here is a half mile long line of Teslas waiting to charge. th-cam.com/users/shortsUqEwLle8xKU
73K is too much money.
It’s so much money
Until they charge 100% in 5 minutes, I'll keep buying gas.
First?
Winner winner chicken dinner
YES!!
VW rip off Electrify America, reported over charges per KWH, AND ALWAYS throttles non VW vehicles on their chargers. Notice what the screen said.. That EA was slowing it down. NOT Rivian. There is no heat issue…. Reported they lie about the true charge rates… they have undersized the upstream power delivery where all chargers being used, not enough power to supply at the faux “rated” on each charger. Look at that mess. Under 45kwh charge with battery under 20% charge… pathetic. Now, there are rumors that Ford cut a deal with them to not get as throttled as others. Even so, Reported EA will not provide “rated” charge rates for more than few seconds. Or not at all when charger location chargers are all in use.
Also, more reports that the widely reported massive chargers being broken, half of those have to do with under designed upstream power delivery. So, many times during the day, reported that the “broken” chargers become lawn ornaments during those times.
I don't know the truth of this, but I do know public charging infrastructure needs to get better.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy or just buy a Tesla, their chargers "just work"
plug it in, wait for the light to come on, and go get something to eat
range seems great - i would miss autosteer. (FSD is overkill) that is a dealbreaker for me.
Auto steer is not great on the Rivian. Needs to be developed a lot faster.