I think it was the CRASH that did it for me 😭 0:25: Displeasure with DJI's controller compatibility and perceived unnecessary purchase of expensive controller. 3:29: Comparison between battery options for DJI Avata2 FPV drone goggles and potential compatibility concerns. 8:23: Enhancing DJI Avata2 durability through removable propeller guards and interchangeable parts. Get your Drone Luts Here: www.dronexfactor.com Link with me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/droneXfactor
That was me and my son on the other side flying with a new guy who came from uptown. The youtube algorithm is too good. We were also flying an avata 2 , as well as a dji fpv. The manhattan guy was flying a mini 4 pro . I left shortly after this video because it was pretty windy but will be back soon.
@@xavier_arthur I fly both the avata and avata 2 but the potato is still my fav. Something about that bulk and that propeller sound. Hoping dji makes a similar FPV in the future.
Had phantom/spark/mini/mini3 pro now got avata 2 experience is totally different, other drones are good for pics & videos whereas avata2 is a sports drone for thrill I’m not a fpv so normal mode is satisfying so far
Nice critique. I agree with most of your points, but I have the goggles integra and like the built in battery. It has a lot of run time, especially with the automatic shutdown if not in use. And with the addition of a small speedybee BEC, can charge while flying with almost any lipo. I also personally prefer physical buttons over touch control on goggles.
@@xavier_arthur TH-cam zaps my comment, probably because I refer to the store named after a river. It costs about $20 You can plug a 3-6s xt60 into one side and then go usb C to the goggles. You also need a USB-C to USB-C cable. It is very small as well- just a bit wider than an xt60. I think if DJI made the prop guards replaceable, I'd fly without them 90% of the time lol.
My clients want slow and smooth. My style is not racing through gaps. No wonder there are so many crashes on TH-cam and Facebook. I understand the proximity factor makes videography. But I'm an older person not needing juvenile thrills. And you can speed up video anyway, although I am not a big fan of speed ramping. I got this drone mainly for indoor tours, and have been practicing going in and around my bedrooms and bathrooms, where I seem to prefer the beginner mode, much like the tripod mode in other DJI drones. I don't have the compatibility problem because this Avata 2 is my only FPV and it supplements my full-frame camera gimbal and other camera drones. One reviewer suggested the motion controller is actually smoother than the sticks controller, which would be one more thing for me to carry around. The one issue for me seems to be the goggles battery that should be replaceable with a second one in the field if needed. I added 3/8-inch rubber foam around the prop guards because I anticipate flying (slowly) around people.
Lot of great points here sir! Planning on doing a bit of both but definitely looking forward to learning fly through videos. Just got my Avata 2 the other day and in beginner mode it's a Very confident drone indoors!
Here is the answer regarding the controller: it’s not an O4 controller… the controller talks to the goggles and the googles transmit BOTH video and controller signals. That is why it differs from the minim 4p controller.
Yup, DJI can also make the mini 4 controller 🎮 communicate with the goggles 3 too! If they want. Or they can make it connect directly to the avata 2, just like the older controller 2 & older goggles 2 connects to the avata 2 💪
All points totally valid. The culture and business model of DJI is a love hate. Love your perspectives along with your the content. Edits Cuts Transitions and Sound are SOoo good.
Great video. Controller 3 should also be able to operate the mini 4 Pro and the Air 3. This is one reason why a lot other FPV operators will never get into the DJI ecosystem
Good question about the RC2 compatibility with the Avata 2. Is it possible they just haven't coded for that yet? But yes, makes sense that the DJI motivation is to get the additional controller purchase $. Great channel as always, I really enjoy your thoughts.
It's the right FPV drone for me. So far I've only flown with the Motion 3 controller and I love it. I don't think I will be ordering the FPV controller 3. Great video, and thanks for sharing.
I agree with everything you say, also the Avata 2 seems to have flight stability issues, on a non windy day flying in a straight line slowly it wobbles around and I’m not the only one to spot this . When will DJI fix this???…🤔🤔🤔
Its an introductory cinewhoop consumer product to make it easier for noobs to get started, myself included with the first avata. If you plan on getting serious, your better off getting a 5 inch, real cinewhoop or doing something like the 3.5 inch upgrade for the old avata. Doubt the new one has something like that in aftermarket yet tho.
Hallo , cool report Thanks , yes i have dji Fpv , Avata 1 and Avata 2 , and from the 2 i have rady crash 7 time and strong , yes no chanche pices and frame not ok , the drone its top for cinematic , not hard fpv
This was the most valuable review so far for me. I think is better to buld my own FPV drone. Maybe wait a bit to see if DJI 04 will be available for custome fpv drones.
I agree that they should help us have less things to carry around and make the controllers backward compatible. But I have seen two camps in all the Avata 2 video reviews, those that are already experienced FPV manual pilots and those that are not. The first group always finds some short coming with the Avata and second group loves the Avata because they fly cine-drones or never flown any drones and find the motion controller and goggles an amazing immersive experience and a ton of fun! And many in the second group are happy never buying the manual FPV controller and some of them may eventually jump over to to the first group and buy an FPV drone kit. The Avata has its place and DJI is mainly targeting the second group.
Its an introductory cinewhoop consumer product to make it easier for noobs to get started, myself included with the first avata. If you plan on getting serious, your better off getting a 5 inch, real cinewhoop or doing something like the 3.5 inch upgrade for the old avata. Doubt the new one has something like that in aftermarket yet tho.
Thank you for questioning the same reason I'm so done with DJI and I do have both DJI and walksnail but will no longer be buying DJI and fully supporting walksnail from now on
I love your channel but I do think your review is a bit negative. Maybe the drone doesn’t suit your particular circumstances but it really is a fantastic introduction to FPV for people not interested in building their own drones and particularly looking for cinematic footage rather than thrill riding.
I’m returning mine I know for sure fpv isn’t my thing after this purchase. It’s fun in a way but not that fun I want to pour tons of energy into it to be good for all these fast clips that most look meh even if good.
Part. But the other part is due to their develop team. I m a beginner with money, i broke 3 fpv s in the last 2 months. Bought the avata 2 10 days ago, flew her daily for 1h, didn t crash yet! I spent more on the other 3 fpv s and neither of them did the trick for me. It s just a hobby for me, i keep updated with all new technology, not just drones!
Hey if you are a noob that can't find the time to learn to fly a real FPV drone...or wants to put the time into learning the skills that it takes to be a real FPV pilot...just needs something they can pick up and use for a few months before finding a new hobby, or go back to flying a Mavic lol... this is the drone for you! even comes with the Ron Jeremy shaped controller so you can look like you really know what you're doing, without actually learning how to fly! The best purchase I ever made was buying on with remote ID...having very little spots I could fly at because of that...and best of all the China Motherland and GOV got their eyes on me....as I miss when mommy would always look at what I was doing and say no no no bad kid! You can't do that! or when they put the GPS tracker on my bike before I went out...and would always give me permission to ride my bike, and tell me where I could or could not ride it! I love DJI for this reason only! REMOTE ID forever! Next up they will have a little Chinese guy or gal shipped with the AVATA 5 and they will make orange chicken for you when you fly in a approved location! I love them so much....they always love the USA!
Can't you just plug in a USB charging brick to extend the battery? I do that with my quest 3 and my DJI Goggles 2... (the battery thing shouldn't be an issue for anyone). BTW. Great image quality and easy to set IPD and diopters. Could you please do a video on how to get computer or phone video into the goggles so we can watch a movie on a plane or try a FlightCrash Drone Simulator in the goggles 2?
Uhh the new goggle 3’s battery is supposed to last you like 3hrs? So, approx. you’ll end up using 8 avata 2 intelligent batteries before needing to charge the goggle based on 23min duration of the intelligent battery. You’ll have plenty of juice before needing to recharge it. However, I’m not sure how long it takes to fully charge from 0% to 100%.
Don't worry DJI will eventually make it backwards compatible, they just want to get all of the impatient customers first that are willing to pay the extra for the controller and goggles.
Um... the Avata 2 isn't made for "hardcore" FPV pilots. Every product wasn't designed for you. What's the difference between strapping a battery pack to your head or a powerbank? Don't buy shit that doesn't fit your needs and then bitch about how it doesn't fit your needs. Just return it and move on... B&H is used to that by now...😂
if you want to free style or race the avada2 is not a good move. I just order the 2 but i use my dji drones to look for my lost drones in trees lol avada is a tool not a free style drone = )
I'm sure as hell interested in o4, but.. Touch controls are trash, so i welcome the v2-style joystick. Also i don't need tbs or elrs on avata2, to hell with it, I'm fine with proprietary controller, but that dick move with remote 2 being incompatible with avata2 is beyond good and evil. And overall hardcore fpv pilots do not need avata2 at all, it's just a toy with it's own ecosystem and it's fine. I have like 10 o3 drones, loads of old-generation dji drones, i have hdzero and avatar quadcopters, so i consider myself a hardcore owner (and sometimes pilot :D) and i do not complain about not bein able to fly my mini2 with tango.
DJI plays monopoly with the consumers. Not too many voices to let dji know. They could receive a lawsuit from the government like apple did.. somebody needs to spread the word. Until then DJI will continue to do what they doing Playing monopoly with consumers.
i am sending back dji avata 2 with nd filters to get my money back cuz i feel i got scammed and the reason is cuz i fly on fc mode...that i could hack it on 03 but on 04 i cant and the problem is that old avata was saying 2km in fc mode and it could reach only 400m away...but new dji avata 2 with 04 says 10km on fc mode....and still cant get more then 400m and thats a scam
"Here's the things that I've dug up to complain about so I can make a video..." Hahaha! Why complain about compatibility when you can't buy the Avata 2 by itself? How exactly would it help you to be able to use the Integra Goggles/ Goggles 2 or FPV RC2/ Motion Controller 2 with the Avata 2?
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I think it was the CRASH that did it for me 😭
0:25: Displeasure with DJI's controller compatibility and perceived unnecessary purchase of expensive controller.
3:29: Comparison between battery options for DJI Avata2 FPV drone goggles and potential compatibility concerns.
8:23: Enhancing DJI Avata2 durability through removable propeller guards and interchangeable parts.
Get your Drone Luts Here:
www.dronexfactor.com
Link with me on Patreon:
www.patreon.com/droneXfactor
Here's a huge major shout out to Xavier. My man I love your videos and I'm learning a lot. If I had any social media, I would follow.
🙏
I feel for folks who buy EVERY iteration of products. Glad I only have 2 drones to concern myself with... Avata2 and Mavic Classic💯🙏 Keep Flying 🚁
Well said 👍
That was me and my son on the other side flying with a new guy who came from uptown. The youtube algorithm is too good. We were also flying an avata 2 , as well as a dji fpv. The manhattan guy was flying a mini 4 pro . I left shortly after this video because it was pretty windy but will be back soon.
Ha!
I remember wondering who's flying the Potato 💪
@@xavier_arthur I fly both the avata and avata 2 but the potato is still my fav. Something about that bulk and that propeller sound. Hoping dji makes a similar FPV in the future.
Had phantom/spark/mini/mini3 pro now got avata 2 experience is totally different, other drones are good for pics & videos whereas avata2 is a sports drone for thrill I’m not a fpv so normal mode is satisfying so far
Nice critique. I agree with most of your points, but I have the goggles integra and like the built in battery. It has a lot of run time, especially with the automatic shutdown if not in use. And with the addition of a small speedybee BEC, can charge while flying with almost any lipo. I also personally prefer physical buttons over touch control on goggles.
I don't know about that speedybee product , can you tell me more?
Also I think for me it was the crash more than anything 😭
@@xavier_arthur TH-cam zaps my comment, probably because I refer to the store named after a river. It costs about $20
You can plug a 3-6s xt60 into one side and then go usb C to the goggles. You also need a USB-C to USB-C cable. It is very small as well- just a bit wider than an xt60.
I think if DJI made the prop guards replaceable, I'd fly without them 90% of the time lol.
im waiting for my fpv controller to come in the mail but like you i also wish i could use my rc 2 with the avata 2
just use the the penis remote and fly like a penis lol
My clients want slow and smooth. My style is not racing through gaps. No wonder there are so many crashes on TH-cam and Facebook. I understand the proximity factor makes videography. But I'm an older person not needing juvenile thrills. And you can speed up video anyway, although I am not a big fan of speed ramping. I got this drone mainly for indoor tours, and have been practicing going in and around my bedrooms and bathrooms, where I seem to prefer the beginner mode, much like the tripod mode in other DJI drones. I don't have the compatibility problem because this Avata 2 is my only FPV and it supplements my full-frame camera gimbal and other camera drones. One reviewer suggested the motion controller is actually smoother than the sticks controller, which would be one more thing for me to carry around. The one issue for me seems to be the goggles battery that should be replaceable with a second one in the field if needed. I added 3/8-inch rubber foam around the prop guards because I anticipate flying (slowly) around people.
I hear you, just like Georgie, you're mostly focused on income & like I said in the video, this makes a great cinematic drone 💪
Lot of great points here sir! Planning on doing a bit of both but definitely looking forward to learning fly through videos. Just got my Avata 2 the other day and in beginner mode it's a Very confident drone indoors!
Here is the answer regarding the controller: it’s not an O4 controller… the controller talks to the goggles and the googles transmit BOTH video and controller signals. That is why it differs from the minim 4p controller.
Yup, DJI can also make the mini 4 controller 🎮 communicate with the goggles 3 too! If they want.
Or they can make it connect directly to the avata 2, just like the older controller 2 & older goggles 2 connects to the avata 2 💪
All points totally valid. The culture and business model of DJI is a love hate. Love your perspectives along with your the content. Edits Cuts Transitions and Sound are SOoo good.
Great video.
Controller 3 should also be able to operate the mini 4 Pro and the Air 3. This is one reason why a lot other FPV operators will never get into the DJI ecosystem
Good question about the RC2 compatibility with the Avata 2. Is it possible they just haven't coded for that yet? But yes, makes sense that the DJI motivation is to get the additional controller purchase $. Great channel as always, I really enjoy your thoughts.
That's definitely possible, but if we don't complain and kick and scream about it, they might never code it 🤷
It's the right FPV drone for me. So far I've only flown with the Motion 3 controller and I love it. I don't think I will be ordering the FPV controller 3. Great video, and thanks for sharing.
Nice,,, but I'm sticking to the Camera Quads... I'm not down with crashing,, that's not a thing for me.....
Nothing wrong with that 💪
I like the idea for a module on the tango 2, it’s a much nicer controller. Very good points made with carrying various gears to be compatible.
Excellent video.
I agree with everything you say, also the Avata 2 seems to have flight stability issues, on a non windy day flying in a straight line slowly it wobbles around and I’m not the only one to spot this .
When will DJI fix this???…🤔🤔🤔
🤷 let's see if DJI pushes a firmware update but it was the crash that really did it for me!
@@xavier_arthur good thing it's made out of reinforced super plastic!
Its an introductory cinewhoop consumer product to make it easier for noobs to get started, myself included with the first avata. If you plan on getting serious, your better off getting a 5 inch, real cinewhoop or doing something like the 3.5 inch upgrade for the old avata. Doubt the new one has something like that in aftermarket yet tho.
Hallo , cool report Thanks , yes i have dji Fpv , Avata 1 and Avata 2 , and from the 2 i have rady crash 7 time and strong , yes no chanche pices and frame not ok , the drone its top for cinematic , not hard fpv
You are saying what I was thinking about the controllers. Love your module/controller idea.
Uhm, I think us older guys just got dissed ... in the nicest possible way. 😊 Great video and comments. Thanks.
Hey bro, thanks for the honest review..I agree with that 7:47 oh noo
I feel bad for Georgie but with new props and some super glue he's still able to fly
@@xavier_arthur oh okay good
This was the most valuable review so far for me. I think is better to buld my own FPV drone. Maybe wait a bit to see if DJI 04 will be available for custome fpv drones.
Would it be hard for DJI to share position information with other DJI pilots when racing etc so that they could help with crash prevention?
I have the same thing to you, mini 4 pro, air 3 as well avata 2, lol
I agree that they should help us have less things to carry around and make the controllers backward compatible. But I have seen two camps in all the Avata 2 video reviews, those that are already experienced FPV manual pilots and those that are not. The first group always finds some short coming with the Avata and second group loves the Avata because they fly cine-drones or never flown any drones and find the motion controller and goggles an amazing immersive experience and a ton of fun! And many in the second group are happy never buying the manual FPV controller and some of them may eventually jump over to to the first group and buy an FPV drone kit. The Avata has its place and DJI is mainly targeting the second group.
Its an introductory cinewhoop consumer product to make it easier for noobs to get started, myself included with the first avata. If you plan on getting serious, your better off getting a 5 inch, real cinewhoop or doing something like the 3.5 inch upgrade for the old avata. Doubt the new one has something like that in aftermarket yet tho.
Good video and points for DJI to follow.
You can power the goggles with usb c and a power bank for all the power you need
Thank you for questioning the same reason I'm so done with DJI and I do have both DJI and walksnail but will no longer be buying DJI and fully supporting walksnail from now on
is it worth spending some money on silicone bumpers for the avata?
I would say yes!
The more protection the better!
Nice work 👍 UK
It makes a lot of sense even though I don't fly FPV but if DJI can make the air 2 S fly with 3-4 different controllers why not the newer drones.
I love your channel but I do think your review is a bit negative. Maybe the drone doesn’t suit your particular circumstances but it really is a fantastic introduction to FPV for people not interested in building their own drones and particularly looking for cinematic footage rather than thrill riding.
Very interesting thanks
I think a firmware update will make the rc remote compatible with the avata2 because they just updated the air 3 to use the goggles and air remote
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NGL, would 100% buy a $200 module to run my A2 with my RM Boxer, lol
I’m returning mine I know for sure fpv isn’t my thing after this purchase. It’s fun in a way but not that fun I want to pour tons of energy into it to be good for all these fast clips that most look meh even if good.
Got the avata 2 and love it.. is the FPV controller worth the $200?
If you're going to fly manual, or you prefer to fly with sticks, then yes because there's no other option or alternative!
You are completely rigth Xavier....DJI Spiral of progress and success is TODAY in part due to the wear and tear on our wallets
Wear and Tear on our wallets 🤣
So funny and true
Part. But the other part is due to their develop team. I m a beginner with money, i broke 3 fpv s in the last 2 months. Bought the avata 2 10 days ago, flew her daily for 1h, didn t crash yet! I spent more on the other 3 fpv s and neither of them did the trick for me. It s just a hobby for me, i keep updated with all new technology, not just drones!
Oh and i m flying manually 100%
Hey if you are a noob that can't find the time to learn to fly a real FPV drone...or wants to put the time into learning the skills that it takes to be a real FPV pilot...just needs something they can pick up and use for a few months before finding a new hobby, or go back to flying a Mavic lol...
this is the drone for you!
even comes with the Ron Jeremy shaped controller so you can look like you really know what you're doing, without actually learning how to fly!
The best purchase I ever made was buying on with remote ID...having very little spots I could fly at because of that...and best of all the China Motherland and GOV got their eyes on me....as I miss when mommy would always look at what I was doing and say no no no bad kid! You can't do that!
or when they put the GPS tracker on my bike before I went out...and would always give me permission to ride my bike, and tell me where I could or could not ride it!
I love DJI for this reason only!
REMOTE ID forever!
Next up they will have a little Chinese guy or gal shipped with the AVATA 5 and they will make orange chicken for you when you fly in a approved location!
I love them so much....they always love the USA!
Can't you just plug in a USB charging brick to extend the battery? I do that with my quest 3 and my DJI Goggles 2... (the battery thing shouldn't be an issue for anyone).
BTW. Great image quality and easy to set IPD and diopters. Could you please do a video on how to get computer or phone video into the goggles so we can watch a movie on a plane or try a FlightCrash Drone Simulator in the goggles 2?
You are right. DJI spits on its customers. Take for example the forced settings and limitations of their drones......
Wahhhh
Uhh the new goggle 3’s battery is supposed to last you like 3hrs? So, approx. you’ll end up using 8 avata 2 intelligent batteries before needing to charge the goggle based on 23min duration of the intelligent battery. You’ll have plenty of juice before needing to recharge it. However, I’m not sure how long it takes to fully charge from 0% to 100%.
It was fun but I personally hardly loved it hence returning it to B&H. Just not for me. It isn't relaxing at all either.
I hear you, FPV isn't for everyone
You can now
Don't worry DJI will eventually make it backwards compatible, they just want to get all of the impatient customers first that are willing to pay the extra for the controller and goggles.
True but I think it was the crash that really did it for me!
Um... the Avata 2 isn't made for "hardcore" FPV pilots. Every product wasn't designed for you. What's the difference between strapping a battery pack to your head or a powerbank? Don't buy shit that doesn't fit your needs and then bitch about how it doesn't fit your needs. Just return it and move on... B&H is used to that by now...😂
You’re making WAY TOO MUCH SENSE, bro! 😂
do you guys think the Avata 1 handle crashes better than the version 2?
if you want to free style or race the avada2 is not a good move. I just order the 2 but i use my dji drones to look for my lost drones in trees lol avada is a tool not a free style drone = )
DJI took a page out of Apple's playbook.
Battery charger charging one battery at a time still sucks about DJI
I'm sure as hell interested in o4, but.. Touch controls are trash, so i welcome the v2-style joystick. Also i don't need tbs or elrs on avata2, to hell with it, I'm fine with proprietary controller, but that dick move with remote 2 being incompatible with avata2 is beyond good and evil. And overall hardcore fpv pilots do not need avata2 at all, it's just a toy with it's own ecosystem and it's fine. I have like 10 o3 drones, loads of old-generation dji drones, i have hdzero and avatar quadcopters, so i consider myself a hardcore owner (and sometimes pilot :D) and i do not complain about not bein able to fly my mini2 with tango.
I don’t like how you cannot repair the avata 2 yourself like you can the avata 1
please help...avata 2 or mini 4 pro?
Different drone types , get both
Sigh, it's O4 not 04!
Good Point!
Very good attention to detail 💪
It's how they make snd take your money we all know this
TACTIL WAS HORRIBLE GOOD THINK that they TAKE OFF
vc paga 400 dolares, a gente aqui paga 6 mil reais, queria poder reclamar de pagar 400 dolares em um drone :)
Agree not interested on avata 2
Better off building your own 3" or 4 " Freestyle and get away from DJI.
DJI plays monopoly with the consumers. Not too many voices to let dji know. They could receive a lawsuit from the government like apple did.. somebody needs to spread the word. Until then DJI will continue to do what they doing Playing monopoly with consumers.
i am sending back dji avata 2 with nd filters to get my money back cuz i feel i got scammed and the reason is cuz i fly on fc mode...that i could hack it on 03 but on 04 i cant and the problem is that old avata was saying 2km in fc mode and it could reach only 400m away...but new dji avata 2 with 04 says 10km on fc mode....and still cant get more then 400m and thats a scam
If you decide to keep it I can give a tube of the “Amazing GOOP”, works really well 😅
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"Here's the things that I've dug up to complain about so I can make a video..." Hahaha!
Why complain about compatibility when you can't buy the Avata 2 by itself? How exactly would it help you to be able to use the Integra Goggles/ Goggles 2 or FPV RC2/ Motion Controller 2 with the Avata 2?