Some tips: Replace the fuel rail, sensor, and pump together; Rotate the crankshaft until the cam lobe under the fuel pump is flat; Make sure the pump tappet roller is at its lowest point; Torque flange nuts and pump bolts exactly to specs.
My 2012 Kia optima had a faulty start with the same code... Watching this video, I was able to buy the part off ebay and change the part myself... Thank you so much!!!!!! save couple hundred bucks
I followed the video tutorial and installed a $160 high pressure pump successfully today, engine light turned off. Everything is good so far. My car is Hyundai Sonata 2012 GLS 130K mileage and it was having issue of slow start and engine light.
Thanks for the great video. Just changed the pump on our ‘13 SXL. Your video was the 1st to come up when I looked up the code p0087 and the only one I needed to watch. Very informative and helpful! Thanks again!
Have the same year and trim, new engine but it occasionally runs like something is wrong, no codes yet so just slowly learning what may need to be replaced
I have 2015 kia optima A day before yesterday my engine started making rattling sound when would accelerate. What could be the problem ? I haven’t drove it since
Just a bit of advise, you should make sure that the cam that drives the pump is on a flat. And not on the lobe to prevent possibly damage to the new pump.
remove sparkplugs, hand crank the engine with a ratchet and socket on the crankshaft pulley, and look down the hole of the HPFP to see if the lobe is at the lowest point.
How can I Diagnosis if the high pressure pump doesn't work? When I remove high pressure pump wire car is starting and no different in sound. Can explain more how to diagnose the problems that indicate high pressure pump. And can it repair or must changed? Thank you.
First off, you'll notice after start up the rpm drives way down in the 300rpm area before the computer picks it up. Sometimes you also experiencing a delayed crank. Mine did not throw codes, even when the engine died driving. It started up again. If you do get a code it should be for low fuel rail pressure.
I have a 2014 Kia Optima, my car shakes when stopped at a traffic or very slow speed or backing up. When I accelerate it runs smooth. I changed all the spark plugs, the coils also the fuel injectors as it was giving codes in cylinder misfire. None fixed the problem, then I had the engine rebuild and pressure tested all pistons all looks good but still shakes when stopped in drive or slow driving, engine light came on with P0301 code. Not sure what else to do. Do I replace the fuel pressure regulator or fuel pumps? Any suggestions?
I have a 2012 Opmtia, I got the same code (P0087) Fuel Rail/ System Pressure too Low. How do I know which PUMP to change? (HIGH or LOW) I was going to take the car to Kia, but they want $600.00 just for the pump. After watching your video I can do it myself. I didn't see a video on the LOW perssure pump, so I'm not sure what to buy. Any help would be great.
Egypt Murray change the high pressure pump first. If the low pressure was bad it wouldn't run at all. I just wasn't aware of the high pressure pump until after I replaced the low pressure pump
Hello Egypt Murray. I’m facing the same issue today with my Kia. Do you remember how much you got the part for? My auto parts store is selling it for $500 and the Kia dealer is saying I have to get it diagnosed for $200 first and will cost around $700 total.
since you didn't replace the line, have u had any leaks? i'm about to order this pump for a 13'sonata and debating on changing the line---manual says to replace but many supposedly don't
Go to harbour freight and get the line wrenches and you would be safe.dont do like this guy that was kind of getto.15 $ and you got a decent tool.that will help you tightening better.
Great video, however should you be using thread lockers on those bolts and torque the bolts to specification? With all these Kia catching on fire, some found out that it was cause by fuel leak from the high pressure pump...
Allan Quino starting the vehicle before changing the pump was tough. I had to cycle the key multiple times before it would start. Once it started the power was really low also. I was hitting 7,000 rpm just trying to get up to 40 mph.
Got a '15 Sonata, very similar build. It took you 10sec, to get the hose off with the orange clip. Of course they had to make things complicated, took me 20 min. with the oem recommended prying tool. Other than that it was straight forward the same job.
Yes, just did the same job on my 2015 Sonata and it was a PITA! Felt like replacing the cheap brittle looking plastic gasket. Didn't use the OEM prying tool. Just jamed a small open end small wrench in the gap and pryed it back and forth. How many miles to you have on your '15? Mine 129k.
I have a related problem in that I have a pinhole leak in the plastic nipples that’s just before (hose side, not pump side) of the orange quick connect you showed. I think that line is the fuel feeder hose coming from the tank (and the low pressure pump you also mentioned). I can’t find anywhere if I can just replace that connection and if so what that part number is. Or do I have to run an entire new hose. If that true I can’t even find the part number for the hose. If you can help I’d appreciate it. Again I’m talking about repairing the rubber line going into the HPFP. Thanks in advance
for the love of god please use a flare nut wrench on the fuel line. also, probably a good idea to change to camshaft follower that sits between the pump and camshaft.
YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE. YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE. YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE. YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE. THIS VIDEO WILL CAUSE ENGINE FIRES.
So my dealer is quoting me $1700 CDN for parts, this includes the high pressure pump and the tube line. Is the tube line necessary to change if not damaged ?
@@stfuplz13 I alrdy changed the pump and bolts. I kept the line and made sure it is tight as possible. It has been 2-3 weeks now. No leaks or issues. I check on it every once in a while to see if there is any.
Artur Roszkowski that is pretty strange. One common factor is not putting premium gasoline in your car. However, if your car is still covered by warrantee please check out the comment that I’ve pinned to the top. It’s from someone who was able to get get the warranty to replace it.
Thank you parker!! I was talking to a friend and showed him the part, but he keeps telling me that is the regulator and not the actual pump. I'm assuming it's because it's high pressure and not a normal looking low pressure. So, just to confirm, what you bought was infact the High Pressure Fuel Pump? Thank you for such a fast response!! Honestly I logged in hoping you had replied but not actually expecting it lol
Carissa Nauman I try to reply immediately to comments! Car troubles usually require immediate attention. I bought he actual high pressure fuel pump. The fix has helped dozens of people as you can read through other comments. However if you want to be sure you can always run it to a shop and have them test the fuel pressure. The pressure is supposed to be somewhere in the range of 1500-2100 however mine was around the 80 mark. Once I put the new pump in it’s been working amazing
I was just at the mechanic yesterday. I had bad sparkplugs and gas in the oil. They fixed both of those, but showed my high pressure fuel pump still had an issue. HOWEVER, just an FYI, they are currently recalled due to the faulty code of p0087. So just because you have the code does not mean you have an issue. With mine though I clearly do. I'm trying to avoid anymore mechanic bills lol. Also, open recall on underbody corrosion, possible metal in the engine from assembly, and rear lower control arms. All of those 4 will be fixed for free. Sadly the pump is not included.
Carissa Nauman thanks for the heads up! Yeah mechanic bills are frustrating I had two quotes to replace my pump. One was $1350 and the other was $1450. I was able to fix it myself for around $400
great video . i have this same problem going on with my kia optima 2013 sx turbo .. do you have any idea what can cause this to fail . could it be from putting the cheapest gas . or also running it on low gas .?
Spartan- Strong sorry for the late response! Typically it is from running the cheapest gas. These engines actually call for 91+ octane. However, it appears that these parts just fail over time and need to be replaced.
Is not the fuel the problem is the high preasure that this pump needs to create is 650 psi at idle and gets up to 1700 psi at 2000 ram so figure is just a matter of time and they fail .till they make better pump this would be a common issue on this gdi engines.
KABLAH RC pull both and start your car. It will soon die because it has no gas supply. At that point you can switch the pumps out. And then put the fuses back in and start the car and check for leaks.
My 2013 Kia Optima throws no codes at all, it just stalls after 25 - 30 minutes of highway driving. I have to let it sit 20 minutes and then it runs fine for a while. Hot weather makes it trigger faster.
Badr Basrah you mean the fuel pump relay?if you don't know let the car seat over 2 hours like no start and then you can proceed to lose up the high pressure hose should be safe.
It wasn't difficult at all but your video was a great help......thanks.
Some tips: Replace the fuel rail, sensor, and pump together; Rotate the crankshaft until the cam lobe under the fuel pump is flat; Make sure the pump tappet roller is at its lowest point; Torque flange nuts and pump bolts exactly to specs.
My 2012 Kia optima had a faulty start with the same code... Watching this video, I was able to buy the part off ebay and change the part myself... Thank you so much!!!!!! save couple hundred bucks
Currently having the same problem . Kia wants to charge me $1200 for the part it’s self 😒
Appreciate the advice i changed my high pressure fuel pump on my optima while watching your video it was very helpful thanks
I followed the video tutorial and installed a $160 high pressure pump successfully today, engine light turned off. Everything is good so far. My car is Hyundai Sonata 2012 GLS 130K mileage and it was having issue of slow start and engine light.
Any update?
Thanks a bunch for the awesome video. You saved me almost 1k in labor!
Thanks for the video! Your video got my car up and running! Didn't realize how easy it was until watching this.
This video was way better than the one I just saw doing the same thing. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. Just changed the pump on our ‘13 SXL. Your video was the 1st to come up when I looked up the code p0087 and the only one I needed to watch. Very informative and helpful! Thanks again!
Great to hear! Glad I could help.
Have the same year and trim, new engine but it occasionally runs like something is wrong, no codes yet so just slowly learning what may need to be replaced
Well explained dude.. easy as hell doing this with the help of your video.. thanks!
مرحبا هل مضخه ضغط الوقود العالي غي محرك gdiتختلف من محرك الى اخر حسب حجم المحرك مثلا 000شرحكم وافي وجيد جدا
How can we find out either low pressure or high pressure pump is bad?
Shouldn't there be a cam follower in there that needs to be checked for wear or replaced?
Yep
Do you have a video of the low pressure fuel pump that you replaced? Also, where is the fuel filter located?
This is a spooky thing to do with all the reports of kias bursting into flames. Can't wait to attempt it 😀
I have 2015 kia optima
A day before yesterday my engine started making rattling sound when would accelerate. What could be the problem ? I haven’t drove it since
Just a bit of advise, you should make sure that the cam that drives the pump is on a flat. And not on the lobe to prevent possibly damage to the new pump.
Lee Mason how do you do that? I’m getting ready to replace one.
remove sparkplugs, hand crank the engine with a ratchet and socket on the crankshaft pulley, and look down the hole of the HPFP to see if the lobe is at the lowest point.
$700 self job?!? Jesus Fooking Christ... that must cost $2-3k at the shop! Thanks for posting this video dude.
Not sure how
Great video😎....need more videos man
Mine is doing the same thing but no check engine lights. Any guesses?
I don’t have the orange w/the green clip on my 2015 optima ex. I bought it new for the dealership on 8/2015. I’m not able to release clip. 😠
How can I Diagnosis if the high pressure pump doesn't work? When I remove high pressure pump wire car is starting and no different in sound. Can explain more how to diagnose the problems that indicate high pressure pump. And can it repair or must changed? Thank you.
First off, you'll notice after start up the rpm drives way down in the 300rpm area before the computer picks it up. Sometimes you also experiencing a delayed crank. Mine did not throw codes, even when the engine died driving. It started up again. If you do get a code it should be for low fuel rail pressure.
How many miles did the original last? My Elantra GT is approaching 100k and nothing has failed... yet!
114k
You should check the cam follower inside the engine for wear. A bad follower could cause pump problems and noise.
Do you where the fuel filter is located
I have a 2014 Kia Optima, my car shakes when stopped at a traffic or very slow speed or backing up. When I accelerate it runs smooth. I changed all the spark plugs, the coils also the fuel injectors as it was giving codes in cylinder misfire. None fixed the problem, then I had the engine rebuild and pressure tested all pistons all looks good but still shakes when stopped in drive or slow driving, engine light came on with P0301 code. Not sure what else to do. Do I replace the fuel pressure regulator or fuel pumps? Any suggestions?
Engine mounts/ trans mount
Hi this is new subscribe I have questions for before you change high pressure fuel pump did your car start or not
I have a 2012 Opmtia, I got the same code (P0087) Fuel Rail/ System Pressure too Low. How do I know which PUMP to change? (HIGH or LOW) I was going to take the car to Kia, but they want $600.00 just for the pump. After watching your video I can do it myself. I didn't see a video on the LOW perssure pump, so I'm not sure what to buy. Any help would be great.
Egypt Murray change the high pressure pump first. If the low pressure was bad it wouldn't run at all. I just wasn't aware of the high pressure pump until after I replaced the low pressure pump
Hello Egypt Murray. I’m facing the same issue today with my Kia. Do you remember how much you got the part for? My auto parts store is selling it for $500 and the Kia dealer is saying I have to get it diagnosed for $200 first and will cost around $700 total.
since you didn't replace the line, have u had any leaks? i'm about to order this pump for a 13'sonata and debating on changing the line---manual says to replace but many supposedly don't
Joel G most people haven’t changed it. I haven’t had any leaks at all. Just depends on whether or not you want to do it.
Go to harbour freight and get the line wrenches and you would be safe.dont do like this guy that was kind of getto.15 $ and you got a decent tool.that will help you tightening better.
Great video, however should you be using thread lockers on those bolts and torque the bolts to specification? With all these Kia catching on fire, some found out that it was cause by fuel leak from the high pressure pump...
Abd gow to replace high pressure fuel pump on a kia diesel engine?
Dou you experience any hard starting before you change the high pressure fuel pump?
Allan Quino starting the vehicle before changing the pump was tough. I had to cycle the key multiple times before it would start. Once it started the power was really low also. I was hitting 7,000 rpm just trying to get up to 40 mph.
Hi did you experience any signs before the code, I'm also low on power and sometimes my rpm go up and down when waiting at light stop.
Sounds like fuel pressure regulator maybe
Got a '15 Sonata, very similar build. It took you 10sec, to get the hose off with the orange clip. Of course they had to make things complicated, took me 20 min. with the oem recommended prying tool. Other than that it was straight forward the same job.
Yes, just did the same job on my 2015 Sonata and it was a PITA! Felt like replacing the cheap brittle looking plastic gasket. Didn't use the OEM prying tool. Just jamed a small open end small wrench in the gap and pryed it back and forth. How many miles to you have on your '15? Mine 129k.
Is the pump always that loud?
Where did u order it ?
Do you have to replace both the low and high pressure for the p0087 or can you just replace the high pressure pump?
Jesse Fearfield just the High Pressure Fuel Pump should fix the problem. Only do the low pressure pump if the high pressure doesn't fix it.
I have a related problem in that I have a pinhole leak in the plastic nipples that’s just before (hose side, not pump side) of the orange quick connect you showed. I think that line is the fuel feeder hose coming from the tank (and the low pressure pump you also mentioned). I can’t find anywhere if I can just replace that connection and if so what that part number is. Or do I have to run an entire new hose. If that true I can’t even find the part number for the hose.
If you can help I’d appreciate it. Again I’m talking about repairing the rubber line going into the HPFP.
Thanks in advance
What did you end up having to do about it?
@@teexshirttt I had to get the fuel line re-run all the way from the LPFP up to the HPFP. Cost about $400.
for the love of god please use a flare nut wrench on the fuel line. also, probably a good idea to change to camshaft follower that sits between the pump and camshaft.
is it repairable?
Did you have any desirability issues besides the CEL ?
YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE.
YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE.
YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE.
YOU CANNOT REUSE THE METAL LINE.
THIS VIDEO WILL CAUSE ENGINE FIRES.
Where do you get a replacement
How was the car acting as it was going out I just found out from dealership mine may be bad after my car was loosing power the picking back up?
Aaron Rheinscheld did you find out what was wrong with yours ?
How many miles were on the car when you did this? Thanks.
Cory Spears the car had 110k on it when the unit was replaced.
So my dealer is quoting me $1700 CDN for parts, this includes the high pressure pump and the tube line. Is the tube line necessary to change if not damaged ?
It's highly recommended to change the line and pump together. Otherwise you'll likely have leaks again and another p0087 code.
@@stfuplz13 I alrdy changed the pump and bolts. I kept the line and made sure it is tight as possible. It has been 2-3 weeks now. No leaks or issues. I check on it every once in a while to see if there is any.
What size socket did you use to get the bolts out
How many miles you had on your car when that check engine light came on for the pomp ?
Artur Roszkowski I had 107k on my Kia. I currently have 126k right now with no issues with the pump since.
I have only 76000, that's little bit early
Artur Roszkowski that is pretty strange. One common factor is not putting premium gasoline in your car. However, if your car is still covered by warrantee please check out the comment that I’ve pinned to the top. It’s from someone who was able to get get the warranty to replace it.
Mine As Of Now Has 146K & I'm Gonna Replace This Hope It Fixes My Problem & I'll Have My Car Up & Running Again
That’s a nice wrench 😂
I have 2013 kia rio the engine crank but not start I am not sure if high pressure fuel die or low fuel pump die
Low
Great tutorial but use a wrench on that fitting, NOT channel locks.
How did u know it was the fuel pumps?
I have a 2012 Kia optima that I need to replace the high pressure fuel pump on. is this one the same year?
Carissa Nauman sure is! Best of luck on the repair. Should go pretty quick and easy. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Thank you parker!! I was talking to a friend and showed him the part, but he keeps telling me that is the regulator and not the actual pump. I'm assuming it's because it's high pressure and not a normal looking low pressure. So, just to confirm, what you bought was infact the High Pressure Fuel Pump? Thank you for such a fast response!! Honestly I logged in hoping you had replied but not actually expecting it lol
Carissa Nauman I try to reply immediately to comments! Car troubles usually require immediate attention. I bought he actual high pressure fuel pump. The fix has helped dozens of people as you can read through other comments. However if you want to be sure you can always run it to a shop and have them test the fuel pressure. The pressure is supposed to be somewhere in the range of 1500-2100 however mine was around the 80 mark. Once I put the new pump in it’s been working amazing
I was just at the mechanic yesterday. I had bad sparkplugs and gas in the oil. They fixed both of those, but showed my high pressure fuel pump still had an issue. HOWEVER, just an FYI, they are currently recalled due to the faulty code of p0087. So just because you have the code does not mean you have an issue. With mine though I clearly do. I'm trying to avoid anymore mechanic bills lol. Also, open recall on underbody corrosion, possible metal in the engine from assembly, and rear lower control arms. All of those 4 will be fixed for free. Sadly the pump is not included.
Carissa Nauman thanks for the heads up! Yeah mechanic bills are frustrating I had two quotes to replace my pump. One was $1350 and the other was $1450. I was able to fix it myself for around $400
My Kia Optima 2015 engine is making a a noise after i switch it off it sounds like a pressure release
great video . i have this same problem going on with my kia optima 2013 sx turbo .. do you have any idea what can cause this to fail . could it be from putting the cheapest gas . or also running it on low gas .?
Spartan- Strong sorry for the late response! Typically it is from running the cheapest gas. These engines actually call for 91+ octane. However, it appears that these parts just fail over time and need to be replaced.
Is not the fuel the problem is the high preasure that this pump needs to create is 650 psi at idle and gets up to 1700 psi at 2000 ram so figure is just a matter of time and they fail .till they make better pump this would be a common issue on this gdi engines.
Can you do a video on how to replace the low pressure fuel pump?
I have already replaced it unfortunately. I do know there is a video on a Hyundai Sonata. It is the same procedure.
Ok i got my pump so you removed a fuse for the fuel pump? I have 2 fuses for the fuel pump should i pull both of them??
KABLAH RC pull both and start your car. It will soon die because it has no gas supply. At that point you can switch the pumps out. And then put the fuses back in and start the car and check for leaks.
Parker Bengtzen thank you!
Best of luck! Let us all know the results!
Should i start the car then pull the fuse
It's fixed!!!! Thank you so much for this video! Helped a ton and saved me alot of money
So im getting the symptoms but no check engine light.....
What does the fuse actually go to i need to change mine on my kia sorento and not sure the fuse box is set up the same way
The fuse is the fuel pump fuse. I pulled it so I could release the pressure from the gas line.
Parker Bengtzen thank you so much my kia is a 2013 as well so it looks exactly like the same setup!
KABLAH RC it’s a really quick and simple fix! I wish you luck! Let me know if you have anymore questions
Parker Bengtzen i ordered my pump from Hong Kong lol 180 bucks
How many mileage was on it whan you change the pump
Omar Carnegie it was right around 110k
@@parkerbengtzen ok thank
My 2013 Kia Optima throws no codes at all, it just stalls after 25 - 30 minutes of highway driving.
I have to let it sit 20 minutes and then it runs fine for a while.
Hot weather makes it trigger faster.
Sameeeeeee u fix it?
In tank fuel low pressure pump. Once the pump heats up it causes it
Hi where's the placement of the fuel real pressure sensor
Badr Basrah you mean the fuel pump relay?if you don't know let the car seat over 2 hours like no start and then you can proceed to lose up the high pressure hose should be safe.
Where did you get your part from?
Kay Renaee amazon!
I did one , i took the bonnet or hood off
thanks
Hey Parker ... are you in Los Angeles California ... can you do mines ? I’ll pay you !
Lol you should definitely get a torque wrench!
Sewing machine
What is the name of those 3 connections
The fuel pressure regulator sensor, low pressure inlet house, and high pressure fuel rail.
Ok so i pulled both fuses and my car wont start at all? Is it ok to take the pump off then?
KABLAH RC seems like you should be good!
Parker Bengtzen ok here we go lol
So mine does not have that orange and green connector and im not sure how to get it off lol damn
KABLAH RC get it done! Let me know the results
Got it replace all connections secure now to put fuses back and start her up!!
Bro get a wrench… send the pliers back to the plumbers
you should have oiled the seal