The real magic of 300blk is not in the subsonics. Admittedly its cool being super quiet and it does present an improvement over 9mm, but the supersonics are really special if you do the math. Out of a 5.5 inch barrel with 125 grain 300blk you're getting almost 900 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. This is slightly more than the energy from a 10.3 MK18 with 55 grain but, given the relatively high BC of that .30 cal V-MAX bullet, that energy persists out to 300 yards. All of that and its a smaller lighter weapon with roughly half the barrel length of a MK18 and muzzle energy similar to 44mag point blank. All thanks to supersonic 300blk.
I don't even run a can or subs for this reason. People always give me hell, saying why did you buy 300 and not run subs and a can, because I know what I'm doing.
@@ihcterra4625 Exactly! Whether it's 110 gr V-max pushing 2300 fps, or some of my favorite 238 gr cast sub torpedoes for cheap plinking, I've dialed in loads specific to my gun that all function without any changes to the setup. It's become one of my favorites.
I use 300 BLK. Before this recent ammo craziness, I argued 300 BLK was the most versatile carbine round for those that didn't load their own ammo ( a few wildcats do a little better ). Yes, BLK ammo was a little pricier, but you could get 110gr varmint loads, 123 and 150gr plinking loads, 200 - 220gr subsonic plinking loads, and even 190 - 220 gr subsonic defensive loads. 300 BLK is good enough ( not always great ) for anything 0 - 200 yards, even up to medium game. When subsonic, aside from hitting harder than pistol rounds, it also carries significantly farther. A 200 gr fired at 1000 fps hits harder at 100 yards than 9mm or .45 do at the muzzle, and has half the drop. And I think it's a shame so many focus only on its subsonic use. A 110 gr V-Max at 2300 fps is a mean little bugger. It suffers a bit from people that buy too much into the hype, thinking it can do ANYTHING ( and you can't totally fault them with the marketing hype to match ). And ammo cost will sadly stay high for a while. But if flexibility and versatility is important to you, or if you can't afford to have a bunch of specialty rifles, and if you don't shoot past 300 yards, there aren't a lot of options that can do more things.
There is a guy on youtube shooting a sonic 300BLK out WAY friggin' past 200 (600) yards and hitting steel. Subs are 200, beyond that not pretty but that's to be expected. I haven't had any of my 300's out to the range since BC, before covid. My last build was a 10.5", sadly residing in a state that is very much against firearms raises a few issues. FGN
@@UpChuckLiberals LOL buddy but you have to make some major adjustments to aiming tho. Remember 300 blackout has a small casing, which is why it's not very good beyond 200 yards.
Cool to see other real estate folks on here doing a hobby they like and talking about that. People often think realtors are upgraded car sales folks and it's nice to see these type of dudes in the business.
I'll out myself. I am formerly the head armorer from BAD that developed the Silent Professionals. I left the company last May before this gun was built, but before leaving, I purchased the components from BAD and built one for myself. The only two components I did not use from BAD were the bolt carrier and barrel because I knew they were out of spec. Mine uses a 7.5" Faxon with a 0.096 gas port and a nickle boron coated Aero Precision BCG. It runs both supers and subs unsuppressed like a sewing machine. The folks left at BAD had no idea how to put these together. The owners didn't think they were losing much when I quit (six other people followed me). The owners were also never that involved or interested in the actual scientific process of how to make these run. They just wanted to sell cool looking product and hoped the price of entry would keep numbers low enough to not have customer complaints since they'd sit in a safe rather than actually get used. They were more worried about custom paint jobs for foreign clients than actually getting their domestic demand and production correct with in spec quality components. I left, and I'm happier for it.
in subsonic, 300b is a cqb gun. combined with a suppressor, it is one of the best home defence options you could choose. The option to swap a mag and extend your range to 300, or, get a higher energy round, makes it extremally versatile, and one thing that you didn't touch on, is that the round was developed to achieve optimal ballistics in a 8.75 inch barrel, so it runs out of a short barrel far far better than 5.56 does. In a defensive situation, it would be pritty difficult to explain why you were taking shots at someone at 300 yards away, so if we are being honest with ourselves about the most likely ranges in a home defense situation, its going to be 30 yards and in (most commonly 7-15 ft). In these ranges, indoors where concussion off walls is a thing, and ear drums exist, 300b is outstanding. Also, even if you dumped a whole mag into an intruder, i don't think anyone would be all that upset about the 30 bucks worth of ammo at that point, so the cost of ammo for home defence isn't really a consideration. My 9 mill defensive ammo is over a buck a round as well. As for range ammo, even with current ammo prices, its available for around 65 cent a pull, with 556 being around 30c a pull currently. And of course, if you load your own ammo, you can decrease this cost, though that is clearly less common. As for training, since you are using an AR lower with most systems, you have the option to run a second matching upper chambered in 5.56, or even 22lr to get practice with the manual of arms in at a less expensive rate, and though supersonic 300b does recoil a bit harder than 5.56, the subs are quite soft shooting so i don't think recoil management and practice are significantly different in this equation (at least not enough that practice with a 5.56 upper would not be applicable) As for hunting, Supersonic 300b is a superior round to 5.56 inside of 300 yards, where most hunters are taking shots, and infact, many states ban the use of 5.56 on dear sized game and up because of the lack of stopping power. (yes i am aware that you COULD kill a dear with 22lr if you had superb shot placement but that's neither realistic for most shooters, nor optimal). At any rate, its not a replacement for 5.56 or 7.62 but it is an excellent round that serves a needed purpose - hearing safe close quarters round that can, with a supersonic mag swap, be extended out to range, or used to hunt.
@@assclapper2231 I believe knockdown power is Fudd term your looking for. I'm guessing by stopping power, he's referring to terminal ballistics and there's zero argument that certain cartridges have better terminal ballistics.
300 definitely has its place. 8" suppressed 300 is my primary home defense. I aimed to build something with stopping power while maintaining my audible awareness. People often overlook how important your hearing is in a bad situation. You need to be able to communicate with your family and hear where the intruders are, all while dealing with extreme stress. If you try to let off one of these platforms in your hallway unsuppressed, you can say goodbye to one of your most important senses.
@@WheresTheAnyKey1 This is just [my] opinion based on [my] personal testing and research, and is not advise or anything else. In my opinion a 220 gr VMax 300 BLK bullet is less likely to over penetrate because of the immediate expansion upon impact and the fragmentation of the bullet as it passes through material. From the research I have done, the rounds with the greatest harm of over penetration are FMJ and TMJ bullets. A 300 BLK 110gr FMJ or TMJ bullet will have significant over penetration and in my opinion should never be used any kind of home defense weapon.
I live on 5 acres. My 300 Blkout pistols and AR platforms have 300 blkout uppers and everything is zeroed to 100 m which equals the general perimeter of my property. The beauty of 300 Blkout was that anything I had collected , magazines, lowers, bolt carriers etc easily accept the round and because of the large variety of rounds , I can pick different magazines which are all identified with specific markings for sub, tracer, super and black tip. This caliber does everything I need for perimeter security here in the forest and at 100 m it has a very tight group. I shoot it in my backyard with my aac can and my neighbors never even know I am practicing or complain. Cost is a factor but once things are sorted out , there are cheaper ways to train with the AR platform. It is my go to weapon for carrying in a backpack pistol with hundreds of rounds .
You ever have issues with stuffing 300 subs in 556 mags? They won't feed. I had this issue. The bullet shoulders are too big and catch in the 556 mags. I could stuff them with 110-125gr no problem. Just went to 300 mags, zero issues...
Great video guys! My go to 300 blackout is the pws mk109 mod 2 w/omega 300 can and not only does it look sexy it cycles everything! One of my favorite in my collection! I know piston guns aren't everyone's jam but I can't say enough about it! Shooting hogs or home defense , running it dirty or clean, it works!! Thanks for the awesome content guys! Cheers!
@Chrisblau like a dream brotha! Even when it's filthy! Omega 300 seems to be a good match for her. I don't have to adjust the gas block as much as u would think when switching between subs and supers, I think I have it on 2 and haven't touched it in a while. Ironically I was almost gonna buy the silent professional but ran into some guys at rainier arms and after some chit chatting ended up ordering the pws; so glad I did. Cheers!
Chris did the entire "Hero's Journey" arc in 28minutes. From underdog with a heart of gold followed by the call to action when Jack died, overcame his inner demons of being inadequate, then finally conquered the evil of internet arguments. In the end, it was a story about family.
Ive come to really enjoy the journey these two have taken! Lively and entertaining . Sometimes they come up with something thought provoking. I love how they introduced the 'dark-side' without giving it any real props! For example .300 Blackout is a great deer hunting round in the Mid-Atlantic states ... down to Fla. Also slays Hogs .
300blk is my go to for urban areas (plus, i love shooting suppressed) and 6.5 Grendel for rural areas. I just keep 5.56 around because its cheaper to shoot and ammo availability will be far more abundant should things collapse…
@Richard McDonald idk where you are at but 6.5 Grendel is fairly abundant in Arizona. I think it will continue to gain popularity and become more available in years to come. Irregardless of what all these online spec sheet chasing youngsters say about the 6mm ARC being superior (talk about hard to find ammo)! Lol! 6mm ARC has slightly less bullet drop, at the expense of half the barrel life of a 6.5mm Grendel. 6mm ARC ammo is 10 times harder to find, it's twice as expensive & no subsonic options. With all that in mind, I feel that the 6.5 Grendel is the greatest do all AR round ever and I cannot see anything coming out anytime soon that could rival it's power and versatility. I had issues with my 1st 6.5 Grendel build and have discovered that they seem to require heavy buffers to function properly. I'm on my 3rd 6.5 Grendel build now. It's a super lightweight monolithic upper, pinned & welded 14.5 inch barreled scout rifle AR. I aim to make Marine Col. Jeff Cooper smile from Heaven :-) with this build! It will be my Do-all/every situation rifle. Light enough for run & gun and powerful enough for larger game with welk placed shots. IMHO, 6.5 Grendel is the greatest thing to ever happen to the AR15 platform and I am super surprised that the Military hasn't utilized this great round....
@@cardboardkiller6883 You guys who live out west seem to have a better supply channel. My buddy moved to AZ and sends me pix of things that are on the self there that have not been in South Fl for months. The last Grendel brass in stock was Midway. It sold out in a few hours. The bolt is one reason the Military won't use the Grendel. If you're going to break something on a AR Grendel, it'll be the bolt.
@Richard McDonald (going on just what I have experienced in my travels) it seems like some places in the South have surprisingly strict laws on guns & trucks. I can't help but wonder if AZ's laxed gun control has something to do with our abundance of ammo. Of course, the mass Granola exodus from California that is infesting my state are already hard at work, trying to turn it into the same expensive and restricted shit hole that they just ran away from! In regards to the 6.5G bolts being prone to breaking, this is the 1st I've heard about it but being that I know that the issue exists with 7.62x39 AR bolts, it makes sense. We'll, I learned something new and will look into it. I would think the the issue could be overcome with our advanced modern day metallurgy. Perhaps it's not cost effective to do so? On the other hand, the new Spear rifle isn't exactly cheap either. From my personal experiences with government contracts, I can't help but wonder if company/manufacturer/distributor politics, palms not getting enough grease and lack of cash filled envelopes sliding under conference tables might not at least be part of it. One thing that I am sure of is that I will probably end up knowing as much about the why as I do the who on "the grassy knoll. Lol
@@cardboardkiller6883 I still wonder if we, the US Mil, really procure anything on a truly need and application basis. For the longest time, complaints about the terminal ballistics of the 5.56 could have been fixed by changing the projectile. M16-A2 with 1:7 twist would spin a 75 grain bullet far and fast enough to be more lethal at longer distances. Now we're looking and spending to get a projectile no one will be using but US. We used to look for interoperability, NATO uses the same ammo. So, we get a system that defeats level ? body armor at ranges the average soldier can't shoot. My M16A1 MER was 460 meters in a 100-meter, NAM environment. Cut the barrel and go to a 400+ meter environment, the SAND, but complain the round won't stop the fight fast enough. When was the last time a Procurement Officer had to hump what he's procuring?
Awesome intro! Once I hit my 50s and with failing sight, I admitted I will never shoot more than 300 yds. Ever. If I have a 300 yd distance, I have room to escape lol. And I wanted suppressed. So 300 was a total no brainer for me.
You can find .300BLK in bulk for like .70 cents a round. The cost claim is quickly diminishing with current production capacities. Also, 110gr .300BLK out of a 10” barrel has the same if not slightly more ft/lbs than 5.56 out of a 16” barrel. So even in supersonic velocities .300BLK kicks ass.
The Nemo Arms .300 Blackout Custom Carbine Buffer Spring can help if you are having short stroking problems when shooting subs. The Noveske KX5 Flash Suppressor is another option that provides back pressure if you do not plan on suppressing it.
I have a custom built 300blk 9” setup that works really well with subs and supers. Can’t play out to distance past 100m but works well with in range on supers. Plus it’s really quiet with subs and a can, even indoors the brass hitting ground is louder than the round going off.
I reloaded so many subs starting 4 years ago. I got like 4K subs now and they are quiet. So glad I reloaded all those back then. I shoot it sparingly now and just hang on to my loads. Running a built 8” BA barrel with a deadair sandman S. Love this gun.
Comparing supersonic .300 blk with 7.62x39 however is fair, since it has almost the same trajectory but from a shorter barrel and allowing more capacity and parts compatibility with the 5.56 (like the BCG).
I use the 300 BO for an economical 100 yard target round. With projectiles that cost 25 cents or less, with loads of about 20 grains of pistol powder, 1-hole groups are possible. Not subsonic, 2000 fps.
First off great vid! The intro was awesome and i appreciate the work yall put in. I like 300 blkout because I can legally deer hunt with it in my state. In home defense ranges it's gonna do fine, that said I wouldn't own just a 300 blkout. You definitely own a 556 first and own both calibers in my opinion.
Its good to have, especially when its just an upper swap why not. I hunt with my Christensen MPR I wouldn't take my 300 BO out unless I was hunting thicker stuff. The 300 BO suppressed is great for home defense, mount the brightest light you can buy I have a Fenix its knarley bright
I could only listen to the first couple minutes of this, I was driving. I wasnt able to pick up the video for a few hours. I searched through several videos until i could find yours again. The first few minutes were so good i had to see the rest of the video.
People need to buy more 300Blk. It's superior to pistol caliber (which was designed) and can be effective as 7.62x39 with a mag swap to supers. is 80% compatible with AR15s (barrel change only) and has effectively made the AR15 a platform with 3 different calibers (.223/5.56, 300blk subs, 300blk supers) That kind of versatility is unheard of. Buy more, drive price down, benefit.
My 10.3 300 Blackout "MK18" is by far my favorite AR15. It's awesome under NODS, short, light, hard-hitting under 200 yards with supers or 100 yards with subsonics and MUCH quieter with either round.
Had my eye on 8.6 when I saw a ballistics gel video and the subsonic round. It’s everything I’ve ever wanted lol. Just started my 300blk venture so maybe in a couple of years 8.6 will be a part of my life as well. Your footage at the end of the video was awesome. Keep killing it guys love the content.
It looks like a promising cartridge. I would wait for the actual manufacturing of ammo to work out the kinks but the main appeal is it's ability to run out of 308 magpul mags reliably. Buying proprietary magazines and followers are never a good thing imo. 8.6 definitely looks promising. Now if we could get a spec AR10 platform...
I just got a 300blk upper. really enjoying it. Subs have been fun, a lot quieter than I would have expected out of a 16in with just an a2 birdcage. Going supersonic is a whole different world. Kicks more than I would have expected. hits hard. really enjoying it.
I’ve had a PSA 8.5 in 300 for years now. Never had an issue with subs or supers. I find it to be an excellent gun for civilian type use. To the point made, ballistics are great for a home defense/explain to a court why you were taking a self defense shot past 100 yards type PDW in comparison to short barreled 5.56 Subs I rarely find under $1/rd but I do get some decent supers for ~0.60 a rd from LAX, AAC, and freedom munitions.
Ammo availability is the literal achilles heal of this round. If I could just go and easily grab ammo all the time and at reasonable-ish prices I would use my 300BO shorty more often. Every time I get a decent supersonic option and then a subsonic option and figure out my optic holds the ammo disappears.
I see a lot of it in stock online. Looks like average for cheaper stuff is about 60 cents a round. I guess that's but too bad. I dunno, I have hopes it'll come down more still but that might just be wishful thinking 😂
Great video dudes. I have a Daniel Defense PDW in 300BLK, love that thing. 7 inch barrel, collapsible maxim stock, definitely a great weapon for home defense. Shoots well, have no problems so far. 2nd rifle in 300BLK I have is a Palmetto. Bought their upper and lower to put together. I think that upper is a 10.5. Just haven’t used it yet but wanted to see how it would do. At least if it sucks, I have a whole lower I can use for another 5.56 build.
Just here to say, you guys, sage dynamics, mountainsmulletsmerica, 😢and small arms solutions are my Metallica, anthrax, slayer, and megadeath of TH-cam. Ur all GOATs!
I have one .300 Blackout... It's a Remington 700 SPS Tactical shorty threaded barrel with a Precision Armament M11-SPR Muzzle brake on it. It's such a ridiculously fun gun to shoot. It's one gun that I will NEVER get rid of.
Love y’all’s transparency about this manufacturer too, a lot of respect for that and appreciate it. I run a 7.5” build that I did with PSA stuff, threw a DA Sandman K on it, works great with subs and supers, zero issues. Crazy that a company markets a firearm like that but then makes it in an idiotic fashion.
I am a huge 300 BLK fan boy. I am putting that up front so that all those who wish to discount what I have to say because I am a fan boy can stop reading right now. I am an old man and didn't really get into guns until I was 60. My very first AR style rifle was the original MCX in 300 BLK with a 16" barrel, which was the only caliber and configuration it was originally offered in. The gun came out in the fall of 2015 and I bought mine in March of 2016 as a birthday present to myself for my 62nd birthday. My gun has had quite a history over the years and is nothing like it was when I originally purchased it, but it was the start of my love affair with 300 BLK. I currently own four 300 BLK guns. My two ARs are my personal builds. My most recent purchase is a Ruger American Ranch bolt gun in which I have taken the barreled action and put in into an MDT LSS-XL chassis with an MDT SDS Skeletonized Stock. I am going to see what I can do with this gun at range. Some people in this thread have complained about the cost of 300 BLK ammo. Yes, it is more expensive that 5.56, but for training and general practice you can find it for around 50 cents a round. I highly recommend that you stay away from remanufactured regardless of who made it. Now to make a long story longer, my love affair with 300 BLK centers around the following: a) it is a 7.62 bullet with a great range of grain weights and bullet configurations. b) it is one of the most versatile rounds I know of. It is great in a 9" gas gun or a 16" bolt gun and everything in between. You can suppress it or not. c) As a gas gun the only thing you need differently than a 5.56 is a barrel. While you can get 300 BLK specific mags, you don't need them and finally d) it is a very light recoiling round that is just a lot of fun to shoot.
Great video production, honest review. Love the round, hopefully more ammo producers like AAC (company owned my PSA) start making affordable ammo (125gr supers at $13ish). Unfortunately I live in a no suppressor state. Thanks guys!
A close personal friend of mine has used the.300 blk in combat. Tango’s sometimes get up after being shot with a 5.56. They don’t affect getting hit with the 300.
Relevance to me; replaced my 308 bolt action with 18" PSA 300 BL AR, this was dad's rifle (old mil/sporterised that shoots sub moa) that I gave to my nephew, my shoulder wanted something less punishing but still 30 cal, chose over 7.62x39 for versatility of the lower, less than 2" group @100yds. With 3 different rounds so far, able to replace upper with 223/556. A very viable option for me for a medium caliber rifle capable of ethical deer hunting, but more versatile than the bolt action. No this rifle is not capable of consistently placing 3 rounds in a quarter size circle, at point of aim, at 100yds like the bolt action. Yes this rifle/round is capable of meeting my needs of a rifle. So, comparing with the cost of good rounds for the 308, a good choice for me. Some day I'm sure I will have a 'small package' with a shusher in 300Bl.
I did a Honeybadger clone build and had the exact same issues, and tried the exact same solutions. Here are the specs: 6" 300 Blackout barrel from B Kings Firearms, Odin adjustable gas block, X Slick BCG, Fostech E2 binary trigger, Spikes Tactical Lower, Q Shorty stock, SilencerCo Hybrid 46 w/.30 cal cap. The gun would not cycle, and I dam near drilled the gas port out, bought a barrel dimple tool to make sure the gas port was aligned properly, swapped uppers and lowers with another 300 that works properly and once i was getting enough gas to operate the upper on my other 300, I couldn't get the gun to reliably feed and lock back on last round using Subs, Supers always worked. After narrowing it down to the lower, I played with various weight mini buffers for the Q Shorty but it wasn't until i changed the buffer spring to a pistol length flat wire spring that i had from a Maxim pistol brace that everything came together, the Q Shorty spring was pistol length as well but apparently to much for sub cycle. So now it works flawlessly, locks back on last round, no failure to feeds, pew pew quite, super accurate and that's with about 200 rds (very expensive) through it. I'm using Sellier and Bellot 208gr Subs. Hope this helps, I've got a great pic if anyone wants to see it, Silencer/Suppressor is recessed direct thread dedicated to that build. Good Luck!
Heck yeah! I use 300 Blackout though a Sig Rattler SBR. It has Rifle punch and 300 yard range with super sonics and 10MM stopping power with sub sonics suppressed. No hearing protection needed suppressed. Perfect for home defense and perimeter duties. This is my #1 go to platform for most SHTF scenario's.
As a reloader the 300 blk makes even more sense. Even with the outrageous prices on components I can load super target rounds for $.38, sub target rounds for $.41 and sub defense rounds with 190gr hornady sub-x bullets for $.65 a round. They all run great in my 9.3" aero build with a sandman S can. Pretty comparable to the cost of reloading 45acp and 10mm. Also with the ability to convert 223 brass to 300 blk there is virtually no shortage of cases.
Great video guys! I've been using 300BO for a while. My home defense has been a Sig Rattler suppressed with a Dead Air Sandman S running 220grn. I can't argue the expense of the ammo, but it is a sacrifice I make. Thanks for the honest review; I've caught a lot of flack over the years, but have stood my ground on it.
One of the most versatile rounds out there In a small package. 110 Barnes TSX or V-Max or 208. 200yd expert. Rattler, AR and bolt gun....all suppressed
Hmmmm. $2,500.00 for a B&T 9mm, or $600.00 for a PSA 8.5 inch 300 Blackout? We all know the 300 BO is so much more effective in virtually all defensive situations. Why do we all not have them? PSA's ammo company (AAC) is even producing super affordable ammo. I kind of feel it mirrors the introduction of the 10mm in the 1980s. 300 BO Is more than a niche. It will be a cult favorite. Give us the answer from your gun snob perspective! You guys rock. I will be watching!
@@scotopicvision No civilian is carrying a 6-7 pound fully kitted out 9mm large format pistol under a jacket. What circumstances in civilian life require a bag gun?
I custom built a .450 Bushmaster AR. I finally got it running like a sewing machine, but the rounds are $2.15 a piece. Oh, and my should is sore after 60 rounds.
@@kalidilerious i have a 5.56/.223 Adam’s arms now which ironically I sold that psa to get the upper and eventually I built a lower. If 2020 has taught me anything is don’t sleep on a gun that I really want cause the next wuhan flu will be dam near impossible to get
I put a 10.5” 7.62x39 upper and couldn’t get it to run after multiple gas blocks, modified and polished feed ramp, various buffer weights, and mags. Ended up opening the gas port and it runs great now with multiple types of ammo but I haven’t tried subs. Great video as always
As someone who recently got my 9mm can that can run 300blk subs and got done with a 300blk build not too long ago that montage explains perfectly why I wanted the round👍
.300 blackout is cool in the same way 6.5 creedmore is and that being it fills a niche but you'll pay for it, I tried an 8 inch .300 blackout AR pistol but I didn't have a suppressor so its benefit was minimal, I built an LR308 in .308 Winchester because the ammo is far cheaper and I cannot exploit the benefit at distance of the 6.5mm, so there are cool things but they tend to be cool in a certain context
147 grain 300 BLK is 100% just to be cheap. It's really easy to source 147 bullets due to it being the standard grain weight for 308/7.62NATO. 200-220 grain is for subs, supers should be about 100 to 120 for some extra velocity. Guns in 300 BLK should always be able to run subs, it's the entire point of 300 BLK.
It's actually NOT the entire point of 300BLK, but just another internet myth that has continued to be perpetrated and only become viable in the last year with bullets designed to expand at subsonic velocity. The purpose was a SOCOM solicitation for a cartridge that would meet or exceed the terminal ballistics of a 124gr 7.62x39 fired from a 12.5" AK104 using the M4 platform and a barrel 10.3" or shorter with minimal unsuppressed flash. You aren't getting that performance with subs and the flash signature/short barrel performance was achieved using the fast burning pistol powders to crank up chamber pressure fast and burn off within 7.5-9". At the time it was developed, the only .308 projectiles available for subsonic use were heavy .308 used for 300WM, WSM, 30-06, and .308 WIN, all of which require supersonic velocity to perform terminally. These rounds, while on paper seem superior to 9mm and 45 ACP by the numbers, would be moving too slowly and stable to have terminal effect on a soft target and would just pass completely through. Terminal performance requires tumbling at a minimum and either expansion or fragmentation to truly wound in a capacity to down an animal humanely or stop a threat.
It works great for what it was designed for. In close , kicking in doors. , and being courteous, you don’t wanna wake up the neighbors , I love mine. Sig 220 s. Are crazy accurate over 100 yards. , It’s my south Tx go to rifle
Love the intro 😂. I really agree and feel with “100 yards and in i would shoot it all day if it wasn’t a dollar a rd. “ That being said I have found some AAC brand 300blk for 60cents a rd occasionally
I have a 9” 300BLK SBR built by Advance Armament Corp. (AAC) It runs perfect. I run a YHM R9 suppressor currently I borrowed off my AR9. Eventually I’ll get a dedicated 30cal can.
I love it for the versatility. So many great 308 loadings for supers. Subs are more of a novelty anyway. The true self defense subs are a fortune and hard to find.
Seems that for the most part, subs for SD don't perform as advertised. You really have to kick out some cash to get subs that will reliably fragment or expand. If all the subs will do is match 45 ACP ballistics, just pull the trigger a couple of more times to stop the fight.
Thanks for the honest review... It is tough to build a gun that could run both subs and supersonic ammunition... A/Rs can be finicky shooting suppressed and unsuppressed... Can be finicky to ammo... Lots of variables... The morale of this video is customer service... great customer service can go a long way... Unfortunately bad customer service leads to frustration... I wish 300 blackout was cheaper... For a handloader 300 blackout is very comparable... Go to the range collect all the 223 brass you can find... Chop it down, form it , trim it , take out the primer crimp on military brass, load and go... On average it takes 10 grains less powder for supersonic loads than the 223... 30 cal bullets are a little more expensive than 22 cal bullets... I think of the blackout as the american 7.62 x39... supersonic loads should be compared to that... Apples and oranges to the 223... 300 blackout in a sub gun suppressed shooting subs compared to a 9mm sub definitely has an advantage...
My American tactical runs super and subs from factory. Cheap and works. Although throw on a adjustable gas block and you can fix almost any of them. I run S&B flawlessly every time
Very interesting review. My thoughts for what they're worth (maybe not much for some). I built a 300 Blackout firearm using a custom blend of components with a 10.5 barrel and a Superlative Arms Adjustable Gas Block. I was able to tune the Gas Block to run Supers with no problem, but it has to be suppressed to run Subs repeatedly and with lock back. Since I primarily run it with a can that is fine for me. I also use dedicated 300 Blackout mags. 1. So that I never mix 5.56 or .223 ammo with it or a 5.56 or .223 firearm and 2. because they feed better than 5.56 or .223 mags. Most folks know to never mistakenly run a 300 Blackout round through a 5.56/.223 firearm (catastrophic) or vice versa (bad day!), but I thought it worth mentioning. One of my buddies has a Wilson Combat firearm which is able to run Supers and Subs without a can due to how the gas port is designed. I believe one other manufacturer has made a firearm for a while that also can run Supers and Subs without a can, but the name escapes me. I recently purchased a Spear LT in 300 Blackout and it also can run Supers and Subs without a can, although it will not have last round hold open without the 2 position Gas Block being on the Suppressed setting. I replaced the Muzzle Brake and put on a Lantac Dragon so that I could use my existing Dead Air Sandman Suppressor, although I'll eventually purchase the Sig Suppressor made for the Spear LT and reinstall the Sig Muzzle Brake that came with the firearm. Finally, I hope Chris forgives the Engineer in me to state that Energy is 1/2*Mass*Velocity Squared, not just Mass*Velocity, so the Velocity has much more to do with Energy than just Mass. The energy of a 220 grain Sub round is roughly equivalent to 45 Caliber pistol round (interestingly enough 300 Blackout Rounds use Pistol Powders vs Rifle Powders which is one reason why they can run through shorter barrels). Thanks for indulging my long winded essay Gentlemen and keep up the great, honest and always interesting reviews. Your loyal Patron!
This video intro is hilarious and awesome. Well I’m new to the 300 Blackout. Only shot about 30 rounds through a suppressed Daniel Defense PDW that my coworker facilitated and that was all it took for me to order my own. I currently got a DDM4ISR at my local range waiting on the ATF that I pay conjugal visits to
It's like an 8T but the shroud is reversed and screws moved slightly on a visual level. The performance on paper seems the same too. That being said if it's a clone for way cheaper he'll yeah.
Yeah, seems like an interesting optic, though I cancelled my preorder on one just for the weight alone. Not much lighter than its 8T counterpart, and that thing was a pig for just being a dot sight.
I like it for suppressed and short barrels. Makes more sense to me than 5.56 under 14.5/11.5“ barrels. I know you said the MK18 can punch out to 300 yards. My question-what’s the terminal performance on target from a MK18 at 300 yards?
After having been shot by 9mm, my interest in terminal performance conversations has waned signifigantly. Lethalty is much much much more dependent on where youre shot than bullet expansion, fragmentation, etc...
I have a 300 in a DD setup and the subsonic use has been exceptional. I started using it just to try out a new caliber but among the LE community the uses of it has been a game changer. By no means am I an expert but from my own experience a 300 blackout system set up with a quality suppressor is a great platform for CQB but also for officers who have to train for a school scenario.
Being in the middle of a very expensive SR30 build I was like “uh-oh am I going to regret this build?” Just sent my blood money & finger prints to the constitution haters 9 days ago. I understand the limits of this build but It’s for home defense along with my USP 45tac. Felt better after watching the video cause I really respect your opinions/reviews.🤙🏻
@@jonathank7394 KNIGHT ARMAMENT SR 30 is either an SBR or with pistol brace. Compact 9" .300 Blackout. Cost: $2,800 and Up. They are in Titusville, FL and have a huge fan base.Excellent suppressors etc..
Greetings brothers. Really enjoyed your video and comments. I have three 300 blackouts. 7.5", 10.5" and 16". Although many people rave about this caliber on shorter barrels with silencers, I do not own any of them. I reload mainly 125 grain ammo with great group achieved up to 50 yards with the shorter barrels while the 16" at 100 yards the groups are extremely adequate between .75 and 1.00. My 16" is a hog and deer of choice up to 200-250 yards. Sorry fellows, I think of my guns mainly as a hunting piece and not a defense although I must admit that my truck gun is the 7.5" and my home protection is the 10.5".
I have a 300BLK build and my main use is home defense and some hunting aspects. Great for home defense with a can plus hits harder for some hunting applications than a 5.56.
I have a PSA 7.5 300 aac, It runs Subs, supers with out any problems, 125-220g with a Dead Air 30 can It is perfect, Also a sig Virtus 300 aac, 9.5 inch with the same can, Shoots all types of rounds .Piston gun with adjustable gas block I load all the rounds Great guns
Coming late to this discussion. BTW, that intro was first class! I think the most important discussion concerning this subject is rarely discussed which is “silence to violence.” You said it but really didn’t discuss it. Using a 10.5” barrel and 125 grain super projectiles, 300BO achieves similar ballistics to a full sized AK47, it’s an effective 300 yard gun with a 10.5” barrel. The 5.56 is an effective 300 yard gun with a 14.5” barrel, minimum. So all this talk about you can do everything with 5.56 you can do with 300BO is nonsense. So, no, you cannot effectively suppress 5.56 from a 10.5” barrel and you cannot achieve effective hits at 300 yards from a 10.5” barrel. Silence to violence. Is it more expensive? Sure, but just say that. You don’t need to try to degrade the cartridge because you don’t want to purchase it.
I have 3 300's. 1 rifle 2 pistols, my 2 pistols run SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas blocks on 10.5" barrels that i run supers through. These are built for home defense and i load my own rounds for. What you do is load your own, you buy prefired 223 rounds cut them down with a jig and trim them down and stuff them with whatever round you want
I use a Ruger bolt gun canned for hunting in .300blk and it works well for hearing protection and I’ve harvested over 2 dozen deer and hundreds of feral hogs. I also have an SBR with a can that my wife uses for home defense and for her daily commute. She carries an x-macro too, but the 300 is for a shtf situation on the highway aka a riot masked as a protest. Too much? Perhaps, but better to have and not need than need and not have.
@@zack9912000 I wouldn't say it's "very niche." So many think 300 BLK is only for subsonic close-quarter work. You can load a 110 - 125 gr bullet that can drop a mule deer or feral hog at 200 yards. Out to 300 it will drop man-sized targets and smaller predators.
@@zack9912000 and that intended purpose is short barrel rifles used for close quarters work, only useful rifles in my densely forested area where shots are not over 100yrds. most of the time you can't see 20 feet in front of you under the triple canopy rainforest i live in. not a good shtf round though, because, ammo availability will be slim to none when the country collapses. 5.56 will be everywhere. imo everyone should have at least one blackout build, just because, why not. plus you can run aluminum suppressors with 300blk no prob. suppressors last way longer with 300blk and they barely heat up, they stay cool to the touch even after multiple mag dumps.
The real magic of 300blk is not in the subsonics. Admittedly its cool being super quiet and it does present an improvement over 9mm, but the supersonics are really special if you do the math. Out of a 5.5 inch barrel with 125 grain 300blk you're getting almost 900 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. This is slightly more than the energy from a 10.3 MK18 with 55 grain but, given the relatively high BC of that .30 cal V-MAX bullet, that energy persists out to 300 yards. All of that and its a smaller lighter weapon with roughly half the barrel length of a MK18 and muzzle energy similar to 44mag point blank. All thanks to supersonic 300blk.
When you know, you know!
I don't even run a can or subs for this reason. People always give me hell, saying why did you buy 300 and not run subs and a can, because I know what I'm doing.
@Ass Clapper not if you reload.
I think the real magic is the extreme wide range of bullets. From 78 grain to 265 grain.
If you reload, you can build rounds tailored to your needs.
@@ihcterra4625 Exactly! Whether it's 110 gr V-max pushing 2300 fps, or some of my favorite 238 gr cast sub torpedoes for cheap plinking, I've dialed in loads specific to my gun that all function without any changes to the setup. It's become one of my favorites.
I use 300 BLK. Before this recent ammo craziness, I argued 300 BLK was the most versatile carbine round for those that didn't load their own ammo ( a few wildcats do a little better ). Yes, BLK ammo was a little pricier, but you could get 110gr varmint loads, 123 and 150gr plinking loads, 200 - 220gr subsonic plinking loads, and even 190 - 220 gr subsonic defensive loads. 300 BLK is good enough ( not always great ) for anything 0 - 200 yards, even up to medium game. When subsonic, aside from hitting harder than pistol rounds, it also carries significantly farther. A 200 gr fired at 1000 fps hits harder at 100 yards than 9mm or .45 do at the muzzle, and has half the drop. And I think it's a shame so many focus only on its subsonic use. A 110 gr V-Max at 2300 fps is a mean little bugger.
It suffers a bit from people that buy too much into the hype, thinking it can do ANYTHING ( and you can't totally fault them with the marketing hype to match ). And ammo cost will sadly stay high for a while. But if flexibility and versatility is important to you, or if you can't afford to have a bunch of specialty rifles, and if you don't shoot past 300 yards, there aren't a lot of options that can do more things.
There is a guy on youtube shooting a sonic 300BLK out WAY friggin' past 200 (600) yards and hitting steel. Subs are 200, beyond that not pretty but that's to be expected. I haven't had any of my 300's out to the range since BC, before covid. My last build was a 10.5", sadly residing in a state that is very much against firearms raises a few issues. FGN
@@UpChuckLiberals LOL buddy but you have to make some major adjustments to aiming tho. Remember 300 blackout has a small casing, which is why it's not very good beyond 200 yards.
Cool to see other real estate folks on here doing a hobby they like and talking about that. People often think realtors are upgraded car sales folks and it's nice to see these type of dudes in the business.
I'll out myself. I am formerly the head armorer from BAD that developed the Silent Professionals. I left the company last May before this gun was built, but before leaving, I purchased the components from BAD and built one for myself. The only two components I did not use from BAD were the bolt carrier and barrel because I knew they were out of spec. Mine uses a 7.5" Faxon with a 0.096 gas port and a nickle boron coated Aero Precision BCG. It runs both supers and subs unsuppressed like a sewing machine.
The folks left at BAD had no idea how to put these together. The owners didn't think they were losing much when I quit (six other people followed me). The owners were also never that involved or interested in the actual scientific process of how to make these run. They just wanted to sell cool looking product and hoped the price of entry would keep numbers low enough to not have customer complaints since they'd sit in a safe rather than actually get used.
They were more worried about custom paint jobs for foreign clients than actually getting their domestic demand and production correct with in spec quality components. I left, and I'm happier for it.
You've described 90% of the industry. Sadly, nobody cares about engineering and R&D anymore. It's all just hype.
@@Plomo69tell that to Atlas. I agree 90% is trash but the 10% who really care are making strides! 😊
@@peterharmon7852 Atlas phuuuucks baby!!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Well I purchased a 300 BO from my local company - BG Defense an it rocks…loves 220gr!
Sadly I’ve heard there has been a bit of an exodus from some of the good folks at BAD. It’s a bummer honestly. But I’m glad you chimed in
the first 3 minutes was one of the highest quality storytelling moments I've EVER witnessed
Oscar worthy
Painful ❤
in subsonic, 300b is a cqb gun. combined with a suppressor, it is one of the best home defence options you could choose. The option to swap a mag and extend your range to 300, or, get a higher energy round, makes it extremally versatile, and one thing that you didn't touch on, is that the round was developed to achieve optimal ballistics in a 8.75 inch barrel, so it runs out of a short barrel far far better than 5.56 does. In a defensive situation, it would be pritty difficult to explain why you were taking shots at someone at 300 yards away, so if we are being honest with ourselves about the most likely ranges in a home defense situation, its going to be 30 yards and in (most commonly 7-15 ft). In these ranges, indoors where concussion off walls is a thing, and ear drums exist, 300b is outstanding. Also, even if you dumped a whole mag into an intruder, i don't think anyone would be all that upset about the 30 bucks worth of ammo at that point, so the cost of ammo for home defence isn't really a consideration. My 9 mill defensive ammo is over a buck a round as well.
As for range ammo, even with current ammo prices, its available for around 65 cent a pull, with 556 being around 30c a pull currently.
And of course, if you load your own ammo, you can decrease this cost, though that is clearly less common.
As for training, since you are using an AR lower with most systems, you have the option to run a second matching upper chambered in 5.56, or even 22lr to get practice with the manual of arms in at a less expensive rate, and though supersonic 300b does recoil a bit harder than 5.56, the subs are quite soft shooting so i don't think recoil management and practice are significantly different in this equation (at least not enough that practice with a 5.56 upper would not be applicable)
As for hunting, Supersonic 300b is a superior round to 5.56 inside of 300 yards, where most hunters are taking shots, and infact, many states ban the use of 5.56 on dear sized game and up because of the lack of stopping power. (yes i am aware that you COULD kill a dear with 22lr if you had superb shot placement but that's neither realistic for most shooters, nor optimal).
At any rate, its not a replacement for 5.56 or 7.62 but it is an excellent round that serves a needed purpose - hearing safe close quarters round that can, with a supersonic mag swap, be extended out to range, or used to hunt.
Thank you.
I've killed a deer each of the last 3 years with my 8inch 300 black....and plenty of hogs a few years back
Well said.
@@assclapper2231 I believe knockdown power is Fudd term your looking for. I'm guessing by stopping power, he's referring to terminal ballistics and there's zero argument that certain cartridges have better terminal ballistics.
@@assclapper2231 what the fuck? Are you 12? Cope? I chew Copenhagen. You strike me as the type of girl that chews juicy fruit though...
300 definitely has its place. 8" suppressed 300 is my primary home defense. I aimed to build something with stopping power while maintaining my audible awareness. People often overlook how important your hearing is in a bad situation. You need to be able to communicate with your family and hear where the intruders are, all while dealing with extreme stress. If you try to let off one of these platforms in your hallway unsuppressed, you can say goodbye to one of your most important senses.
You have that right I've been there and couldn't hear for a bit lol
300blk suppressed is my go to home defense weapon as well. 208gr A-max is my favorite. 125gr fiochi blue tips are my favorite supers
what does overpenetration look like compared to 9mm hollowpoints? Is it significantly riskier to have a stray bullet go into the house next door, etc?
@@WheresTheAnyKey1 This is just [my] opinion based on [my] personal testing and research, and is not advise or anything else. In my opinion a 220 gr VMax 300 BLK bullet is less likely to over penetrate because of the immediate expansion upon impact and the fragmentation of the bullet as it passes through material. From the research I have done, the rounds with the greatest harm of over penetration are FMJ and TMJ bullets. A 300 BLK 110gr FMJ or TMJ bullet will have significant over penetration and in my opinion should never be used any kind of home defense weapon.
What if the bad guy(s) shoot back? Hope you have some ear muffs.
Awesome intro. You guys rock. I love 300 B.O. It definitely has its place in quietness and in home defense.
no sir YOU are awesome. and i agree with you man for quiet, high grain weight, home defense i think its a very viable option
I live on 5 acres. My 300 Blkout pistols and AR platforms have 300 blkout uppers and everything is zeroed to 100 m which equals the general perimeter of my property.
The beauty of 300 Blkout was that anything I had collected , magazines, lowers, bolt carriers etc easily accept the round and because of the large variety of rounds , I can pick different magazines which are all identified with specific markings for sub, tracer, super and black tip. This caliber does everything I need for perimeter security here in the forest and at 100 m it has a very tight group.
I shoot it in my backyard with my aac can and my neighbors never even know I am practicing or complain.
Cost is a factor but once things are sorted out , there are cheaper ways to train with the AR platform.
It is my go to weapon for carrying in a backpack pistol with hundreds of rounds .
You ever have issues with stuffing 300 subs in 556 mags? They won't feed. I had this issue. The bullet shoulders are too big and catch in the 556 mags. I could stuff them with 110-125gr no problem. Just went to 300 mags, zero issues...
Great video guys! My go to 300 blackout is the pws mk109 mod 2 w/omega 300 can and not only does it look sexy it cycles everything! One of my favorite in my collection! I know piston guns aren't everyone's jam but I can't say enough about it! Shooting hogs or home defense , running it dirty or clean, it works!! Thanks for the awesome content guys! Cheers!
$1300 for an upper is just too much.
bro how does that run? jake and i both love PWS stuff
@Chrisblau like a dream brotha! Even when it's filthy! Omega 300 seems to be a good match for her. I don't have to adjust the gas block as much as u would think when switching between subs and supers, I think I have it on 2 and haven't touched it in a while. Ironically I was almost gonna buy the silent professional but ran into some guys at rainier arms and after some chit chatting ended up ordering the pws; so glad I did. Cheers!
@@calebclark6739 poor much
If I shoot a 300Blk with out ear protection will it blow my ears out? What barrel twist is best for 110 to 150 gr. ?😅
Chris did the entire "Hero's Journey" arc in 28minutes. From underdog with a heart of gold followed by the call to action when Jack died, overcame his inner demons of being inadequate, then finally conquered the evil of internet arguments. In the end, it was a story about family.
Well said, Vinn.
😂😂😂 dude this is the best 😂😂 story about family? Haha I’m dying
It's always about family. In the beginning...
Ive come to really enjoy the journey these two have taken! Lively and entertaining . Sometimes they come up with something thought provoking. I love how they introduced the 'dark-side' without giving it any real props! For example .300 Blackout is a great deer hunting round in the Mid-Atlantic states ... down to Fla. Also slays Hogs .
You’re an absolute bad ass for telling the truth about the experience that you had with the gun itself and being so professional about it
Thank you
Y’all had me rolling with the intro 😂. On other note yes I have a 300blackout for my home defense. Don’t wanna blow my ears out
your pose is like a female UFC fighter
300blk is my go to for urban areas (plus, i love shooting suppressed) and 6.5 Grendel for rural areas. I just keep 5.56 around because its cheaper to shoot and ammo availability will be far more abundant should things collapse…
Love that 6.5 Grendel also. The ammo is crazy hard to find locally, and the brass isn't so easy to find either.
@Richard McDonald idk where you are at but 6.5 Grendel is fairly abundant in Arizona. I think it will continue to gain popularity and become more available in years to come.
Irregardless of what all these online spec sheet chasing youngsters say about the 6mm ARC being superior (talk about hard to find ammo)! Lol! 6mm ARC has slightly less bullet drop, at the expense of half the barrel life of a 6.5mm Grendel. 6mm ARC ammo is 10 times harder to find, it's twice as expensive & no subsonic options. With all that in mind, I feel that the 6.5 Grendel is the greatest do all AR round ever and I cannot see anything coming out anytime soon that could rival it's power and versatility.
I had issues with my 1st 6.5 Grendel build and have discovered that they seem to require heavy buffers to function properly. I'm on my 3rd 6.5 Grendel build now. It's a super lightweight monolithic upper, pinned & welded 14.5 inch barreled scout rifle AR.
I aim to make Marine Col. Jeff Cooper smile from Heaven :-) with this build! It will be my Do-all/every situation rifle. Light enough for run & gun and powerful enough for larger game with welk placed shots.
IMHO, 6.5 Grendel is the greatest thing to ever happen to the AR15 platform and I am super surprised that the Military hasn't utilized this great round....
@@cardboardkiller6883 You guys who live out west seem to have a better supply channel. My buddy moved to AZ and sends me pix of things that are on the self there that have not been in South Fl for months. The last Grendel brass in stock was Midway. It sold out in a few hours. The bolt is one reason the Military won't use the Grendel. If you're going to break something on a AR Grendel, it'll be the bolt.
@Richard McDonald (going on just what I have experienced in my travels) it seems like some places in the South have surprisingly strict laws on guns & trucks. I can't help but wonder if AZ's laxed gun control has something to do with our abundance of ammo. Of course, the mass Granola exodus from California that is infesting my state are already hard at work, trying to turn it into the same expensive and restricted shit hole that they just ran away from!
In regards to the 6.5G bolts being prone to breaking, this is the 1st I've heard about it but being that I know that the issue exists with 7.62x39 AR bolts, it makes sense. We'll, I learned something new and will look into it. I would think the the issue could be overcome with our advanced modern day metallurgy. Perhaps it's not cost effective to do so? On the other hand, the new Spear rifle isn't exactly cheap either. From my personal experiences with government contracts, I can't help but wonder if company/manufacturer/distributor politics, palms not getting enough grease and lack of cash filled envelopes sliding under conference tables might not at least be part of it. One thing that I am sure of is that I will probably end up knowing as much about the why as I do the who on "the grassy knoll. Lol
@@cardboardkiller6883 I still wonder if we, the US Mil, really procure anything on a truly need and application basis. For the longest time, complaints about the terminal ballistics of the 5.56 could have been fixed by changing the projectile. M16-A2 with 1:7 twist would spin a 75 grain bullet far and fast enough to be more lethal at longer distances. Now we're looking and spending to get a projectile no one will be using but US. We used to look for interoperability, NATO uses the same ammo. So, we get a system that defeats level ? body armor at ranges the average soldier can't shoot. My M16A1 MER was 460 meters in a 100-meter, NAM environment. Cut the barrel and go to a 400+ meter environment, the SAND, but complain the round won't stop the fight fast enough. When was the last time a Procurement Officer had to hump what he's procuring?
Awesome intro! Once I hit my 50s and with failing sight, I admitted I will never shoot more than 300 yds. Ever. If I have a 300 yd distance, I have room to escape lol. And I wanted suppressed. So 300 was a total no brainer for me.
Perfect Response!
I have 3 different set up's in 300-blk and I have a lot of 300-blk put away. Love it!!!! I even have a 300 Solo setup.
I care. I care a lot.
Now try 50 Beowulf.
Or .450 bushmaster
I care too. Let's start a me too movment against blackout abuse
I do too brother! I do too
You can find .300BLK in bulk for like .70 cents a round. The cost claim is quickly diminishing with current production capacities. Also, 110gr .300BLK out of a 10” barrel has the same if not slightly more ft/lbs than 5.56 out of a 16” barrel. So even in supersonic velocities .300BLK kicks ass.
The Nemo Arms .300 Blackout Custom Carbine Buffer Spring can help if you are having short stroking problems when shooting subs. The Noveske KX5 Flash Suppressor is another option that provides back pressure if you do not plan on suppressing it.
I've built 7, 10, and 16 inch 300AAC Blackouts, and the run everything!
Ever hunt with your 7in? I’m looking foward to deer hunt with mines(50-120yards)
300 Blackout. My favorite AR round even though it's stupid expensive...still.
I have a custom built 300blk 9” setup that works really well with subs and supers. Can’t play out to distance past 100m but works well with in range on supers. Plus it’s really quiet with subs and a can, even indoors the brass hitting ground is louder than the round going off.
I love my blackout… it is an awesome little round. Lots of cool bullet variations with a hush hush spout! Plus it is fun to nail deer and hogs with.
Funny, factual and honest…this is why 1911 Syndicate is my favorite TH-cam channel. 👏
Cheers mate
thank you sir we really appreciate that and it means the world to us.
Love this round. Built an ADM with Noveske barrel and simply put my Omega 9k on it and it is quiet. Matches my 556. ADM makes great stuff.
Thank you guys for always being upfront and honest with your reviews. We appreciate it.
I reloaded so many subs starting 4 years ago. I got like 4K subs now and they are quiet. So glad I reloaded all those back then. I shoot it sparingly now and just hang on to my loads. Running a built 8” BA barrel with a deadair sandman S. Love this gun.
I've noticed many insist on comparing the 300Blk with 5.56 or 7.62x51.
300 Blk was developed to replace the 9mm in CQB OP's.
Nobody compares it to 9mm because there’s no contest. 300 BLK beats 9mm easily.
Comparing supersonic .300 blk with 7.62x39 however is fair, since it has almost the same trajectory but from a shorter barrel and allowing more capacity and parts compatibility with the 5.56 (like the BCG).
I use the 300 BO for an economical 100 yard target round. With projectiles that cost 25 cents or less, with loads of about 20 grains of pistol powder, 1-hole groups are possible. Not subsonic, 2000 fps.
First off great vid! The intro was awesome and i appreciate the work yall put in. I like 300 blkout because I can legally deer hunt with it in my state. In home defense ranges it's gonna do fine, that said I wouldn't own just a 300 blkout. You definitely own a 556 first and own both calibers in my opinion.
And this sir is logical reasoning that I completely agree with.
Its good to have, especially when its just an upper swap why not. I hunt with my Christensen MPR I wouldn't take my 300 BO out unless I was hunting thicker stuff. The 300 BO suppressed is great for home defense, mount the brightest light you can buy I have a Fenix its knarley bright
I could only listen to the first couple minutes of this, I was driving. I wasnt able to pick up the video for a few hours. I searched through several videos until i could find yours again. The first few minutes were so good i had to see the rest of the video.
lol
People need to buy more 300Blk.
It's superior to pistol caliber (which was designed) and can be effective as 7.62x39 with a mag swap to supers. is 80% compatible with AR15s (barrel change only) and has effectively made the AR15 a platform with 3 different calibers (.223/5.56, 300blk subs, 300blk supers)
That kind of versatility is unheard of.
Buy more, drive price down, benefit.
My 10.3 300 Blackout "MK18" is by far my favorite AR15. It's awesome under NODS, short, light, hard-hitting under 200 yards with supers or 100 yards with subsonics and MUCH quieter with either round.
Had my eye on 8.6 when I saw a ballistics gel video and the subsonic round. It’s everything I’ve ever wanted lol. Just started my 300blk venture so maybe in a couple of years 8.6 will be a part of my life as well. Your footage at the end of the video was awesome. Keep killing it guys love the content.
It looks like a promising cartridge. I would wait for the actual manufacturing of ammo to work out the kinks but the main appeal is it's ability to run out of 308 magpul mags reliably. Buying proprietary magazines and followers are never a good thing imo.
8.6 definitely looks promising. Now if we could get a spec AR10 platform...
@@2amichaelj you, sir, are just speaking the honest to God truth lol.
@@2amichaelj WILSON COMBAT AR10 Platform in 8.6?
Can't wait for 8.6 in AR platform to come out
I just got a 300blk upper. really enjoying it. Subs have been fun, a lot quieter than I would have expected out of a 16in with just an a2 birdcage. Going supersonic is a whole different world. Kicks more than I would have expected. hits hard. really enjoying it.
And I love .300blk, it’s the ultimate for your edc truck/backpack/bedside/cqb gun imho. Can even hunt deer with it, very nice round.
Clip in the intro.. Brilliant and hysterical. No one has framed the story of .556 and .300blk in such tasteful imagery 😆. Simply great
It’s practically a documentary
Love this gentlemen. This was a pure cinematic gold. 💥👌🏽😎
My Sugar Weasel in 300 BO is such a fun weapon!! It’s my go to..I can always pick up an upper in .556 from PSA as a backup
I’ve had a PSA 8.5 in 300 for years now. Never had an issue with subs or supers. I find it to be an excellent gun for civilian type use. To the point made, ballistics are great for a home defense/explain to a court why you were taking a self defense shot past 100 yards type PDW in comparison to short barreled 5.56
Subs I rarely find under $1/rd but I do get some decent supers for ~0.60 a rd from LAX, AAC, and freedom munitions.
Ammo availability is the literal achilles heal of this round. If I could just go and easily grab ammo all the time and at reasonable-ish prices I would use my 300BO shorty more often. Every time I get a decent supersonic option and then a subsonic option and figure out my optic holds the ammo disappears.
PSA makes cheap 300 in their AAC brand. Go buy a case or fifteen.
Reloading make it a great cartridge to shoot.
Reloading is so fun.
I see a lot of it in stock online. Looks like average for cheaper stuff is about 60 cents a round. I guess that's but too bad. I dunno, I have hopes it'll come down more still but that might just be wishful thinking 😂
@@Glandash Heck, even 11.99 per 20 rounds! 300 BLK is cheap as heck to shoot. (making your point for you)
Great video dudes. I have a Daniel Defense PDW in 300BLK, love that thing. 7 inch barrel, collapsible maxim stock, definitely a great weapon for home defense. Shoots well, have no problems so far. 2nd rifle in 300BLK I have is a Palmetto. Bought their upper and lower to put together. I think that upper is a 10.5. Just haven’t used it yet but wanted to see how it would do. At least if it sucks, I have a whole lower I can use for another 5.56 build.
Just here to say, you guys, sage dynamics, mountainsmulletsmerica, 😢and small arms solutions are my Metallica, anthrax, slayer, and megadeath of TH-cam. Ur all GOATs!
Haha Metallica maybe
Yeah, Chris at Small Arms is *Megadeath!* 🤟😁
Broook best comment ever? Can we please be Slayer?
@@addict054 I’m dying to know
300 blackout is still the best self defense round and setup nothin compares to power to barrel length
I have one .300 Blackout... It's a Remington 700 SPS Tactical shorty threaded barrel with a Precision Armament M11-SPR Muzzle brake on it. It's such a ridiculously fun gun to shoot. It's one gun that I will NEVER get rid of.
Love y’all’s transparency about this manufacturer too, a lot of respect for that and appreciate it. I run a 7.5” build that I did with PSA stuff, threw a DA Sandman K on it, works great with subs and supers, zero issues. Crazy that a company markets a firearm like that but then makes it in an idiotic fashion.
I am a huge 300 BLK fan boy. I am putting that up front so that all those who wish to discount what I have to say because I am a fan boy can stop reading right now. I am an old man and didn't really get into guns until I was 60. My very first AR style rifle was the original MCX in 300 BLK with a 16" barrel, which was the only caliber and configuration it was originally offered in. The gun came out in the fall of 2015 and I bought mine in March of 2016 as a birthday present to myself for my 62nd birthday. My gun has had quite a history over the years and is nothing like it was when I originally purchased it, but it was the start of my love affair with 300 BLK. I currently own four 300 BLK guns. My two ARs are my personal builds. My most recent purchase is a Ruger American Ranch bolt gun in which I have taken the barreled action and put in into an MDT LSS-XL chassis with an MDT SDS Skeletonized Stock. I am going to see what I can do with this gun at range. Some people in this thread have complained about the cost of 300 BLK ammo. Yes, it is more expensive that 5.56, but for training and general practice you can find it for around 50 cents a round. I highly recommend that you stay away from remanufactured regardless of who made it. Now to make a long story longer, my love affair with 300 BLK centers around the following: a) it is a 7.62 bullet with a great range of grain weights and bullet configurations. b) it is one of the most versatile rounds I know of. It is great in a 9" gas gun or a 16" bolt gun and everything in between. You can suppress it or not. c) As a gas gun the only thing you need differently than a 5.56 is a barrel. While you can get 300 BLK specific mags, you don't need them and finally d) it is a very light recoiling round that is just a lot of fun to shoot.
Great video production, honest review.
Love the round, hopefully more ammo producers like AAC (company owned my PSA) start making affordable ammo (125gr supers at $13ish).
Unfortunately I live in a no suppressor state.
Thanks guys!
A close personal friend of mine has used the.300 blk in combat. Tango’s sometimes get up after being shot with a 5.56. They don’t affect getting hit with the 300.
They don't affect getting hit with the 330blkout....reword that because I don't understand
They don't affect getting hit with the 300blkout....reword that because I don't understand
Relevance to me; replaced my 308 bolt action with 18" PSA 300 BL AR, this was dad's rifle (old mil/sporterised that shoots sub moa) that I gave to my nephew, my shoulder wanted something less punishing but still 30 cal, chose over 7.62x39 for versatility of the lower, less than 2" group @100yds. With 3 different rounds so far, able to replace upper with 223/556.
A very viable option for me for a medium caliber rifle capable of ethical deer hunting, but more versatile than the bolt action. No this rifle is not capable of consistently placing 3 rounds in a quarter size circle, at point of aim, at 100yds like the bolt action. Yes this rifle/round is capable of meeting my needs of a rifle.
So, comparing with the cost of good rounds for the 308, a good choice for me.
Some day I'm sure I will have a 'small package' with a shusher in 300Bl.
I did a Honeybadger clone build and had the exact same issues, and tried the exact same solutions. Here are the specs: 6" 300 Blackout barrel from B Kings Firearms, Odin adjustable gas block, X Slick BCG, Fostech E2 binary trigger, Spikes Tactical Lower, Q Shorty stock, SilencerCo Hybrid 46 w/.30 cal cap. The gun would not cycle, and I dam near drilled the gas port out, bought a barrel dimple tool to make sure the gas port was aligned properly, swapped uppers and lowers with another 300 that works properly and once i was getting enough gas to operate the upper on my other 300, I couldn't get the gun to reliably feed and lock back on last round using Subs, Supers always worked. After narrowing it down to the lower, I played with various weight mini buffers for the Q Shorty but it wasn't until i changed the buffer spring to a pistol length flat wire spring that i had from a Maxim pistol brace that everything came together, the Q Shorty spring was pistol length as well but apparently to much for sub cycle. So now it works flawlessly, locks back on last round, no failure to feeds, pew pew quite, super accurate and that's with about 200 rds (very expensive) through it. I'm using Sellier and Bellot 208gr Subs. Hope this helps, I've got a great pic if anyone wants to see it, Silencer/Suppressor is recessed direct thread dedicated to that build. Good Luck!
A faster burning powder in your subsonics would build your pressure spike where you need it for proper cyclic timing.
This is an award worthy film. The narration and the acting is top notch!!! I was in tears. 😂😂😂
Heck yeah! I use 300 Blackout though a Sig Rattler SBR. It has Rifle punch and 300 yard range with super sonics and 10MM stopping power with sub sonics suppressed. No hearing protection needed suppressed. Perfect for home defense and perimeter duties. This is my #1 go to platform for most SHTF scenario's.
yup I got the rattler for inside the house and built a longer barrel AR for rooftop street defense..
I was skeptical for a few years, then built a 10.5 and worked up some reloads. The hype was a bit much at first, but its what I expected.
they run cool and don't eat cans.
As a reloader the 300 blk makes even more sense. Even with the outrageous prices on components I can load super target rounds for $.38, sub target rounds for $.41 and sub defense rounds with 190gr hornady sub-x bullets for $.65
a round. They all run great in my 9.3" aero build with a sandman S can.
Pretty comparable to the cost of reloading 45acp and 10mm. Also with the ability to convert 223 brass to 300 blk there is virtually no shortage of cases.
Freaking hilarious opening!!! Well done guys!
Great video guys! I've been using 300BO for a while. My home defense has been a Sig Rattler suppressed with a Dead Air Sandman S running 220grn. I can't argue the expense of the ammo, but it is a sacrifice I make. Thanks for the honest review; I've caught a lot of flack over the years, but have stood my ground on it.
Yes I use my 300 Black Out and it works absolutely great while suppressed.
One of the most versatile rounds out there In a small package. 110 Barnes TSX or V-Max or 208. 200yd expert. Rattler, AR and bolt gun....all suppressed
Hmmmm. $2,500.00 for a B&T 9mm, or $600.00 for a PSA 8.5 inch 300 Blackout? We all know the 300 BO is so much more effective in virtually all defensive situations. Why do we all not have them? PSA's ammo company (AAC) is even producing super affordable ammo. I kind of feel it mirrors the introduction of the 10mm in the 1980s. 300 BO Is more than a niche. It will be a cult favorite. Give us the answer from your gun snob perspective!
You guys rock. I will be watching!
B&T fits under a jacket or small messenger bag easily. Your not doing that with your 8.5 inch AR-15
@@scotopicvision No civilian is carrying a 6-7 pound fully kitted out 9mm large format pistol under a jacket. What circumstances in civilian life require a bag gun?
@@scotopicvision CMMG Dissent is not far off.
@@markrippt4677 lol, by that logic…..what civilian requires a PSA 8.5 300 blackout? It serves no purpose
AAC ammo is good to go. Over 1k 9mm and 200 of blackout without issue
Outstanding job, guys! Anyone who thumbed down this video is just pissed they overpaid for a 458 SOCOM.
100% truth sir 😂😂😂
Best to have built both! Super fun
I custom built a .450 Bushmaster AR. I finally got it running like a sewing machine, but the rounds are $2.15 a piece.
Oh, and my should is sore after 60 rounds.
When Chris punched Jake out of the video I lost it! That was incredible and caught me completely off guard lol
It’s called special effects
so stupid right 🤣🤣
@@1911syndicate nah, phuck dat, Chris really punches that hard.
@@1911syndicate you mean to tell me you didnt actually do that? UNSUBBED
Honestly one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while.
300 blackout helped me stockpile during the pandemic when I couldn’t get me 5.56 rifle or bullets
See that’s awesome cause now you have that already for the future. Silver lining
what? no 5.56, but blackout? Do you live in Europe?
@@kalidilerious nah I live in America lol ppl just got stupid and panic bought all the tp baby stuff 9mm and 5.56 and for some reason ps5
@@settlesmachiningtools8671 should of gone with 223. You also have the option to shoot 5.56.
@@kalidilerious i have a 5.56/.223 Adam’s arms now which ironically I sold that psa to get the upper and eventually I built a lower. If 2020 has taught me anything is don’t sleep on a gun that I really want cause the next wuhan flu will be dam near impossible to get
I put a 10.5” 7.62x39 upper and couldn’t get it to run after multiple gas blocks, modified and polished feed ramp, various buffer weights, and mags. Ended up opening the gas port and it runs great now with multiple types of ammo but I haven’t tried subs. Great video as always
My favorite rifle. My AR-47 is similar - 10.5" 7.62x39 Gunner. Small, light, and packs a punch. With Sprinco Blue and H2 buffer it is an easy shooter.
As someone who recently got my 9mm can that can run 300blk subs and got done with a 300blk build not too long ago that montage explains perfectly why I wanted the round👍
.300 blackout is cool in the same way 6.5 creedmore is and that being it fills a niche but you'll pay for it, I tried an 8 inch .300 blackout AR pistol but I didn't have a suppressor so its benefit was minimal, I built an LR308 in .308 Winchester because the ammo is far cheaper and I cannot exploit the benefit at distance of the 6.5mm, so there are cool things but they tend to be cool in a certain context
147 grain 300 BLK is 100% just to be cheap. It's really easy to source 147 bullets due to it being the standard grain weight for 308/7.62NATO. 200-220 grain is for subs, supers should be about 100 to 120 for some extra velocity.
Guns in 300 BLK should always be able to run subs, it's the entire point of 300 BLK.
It's actually NOT the entire point of 300BLK, but just another internet myth that has continued to be perpetrated and only become viable in the last year with bullets designed to expand at subsonic velocity. The purpose was a SOCOM solicitation for a cartridge that would meet or exceed the terminal ballistics of a 124gr 7.62x39 fired from a 12.5" AK104 using the M4 platform and a barrel 10.3" or shorter with minimal unsuppressed flash. You aren't getting that performance with subs and the flash signature/short barrel performance was achieved using the fast burning pistol powders to crank up chamber pressure fast and burn off within 7.5-9". At the time it was developed, the only .308 projectiles available for subsonic use were heavy .308 used for 300WM, WSM, 30-06, and .308 WIN, all of which require supersonic velocity to perform terminally. These rounds, while on paper seem superior to 9mm and 45 ACP by the numbers, would be moving too slowly and stable to have terminal effect on a soft target and would just pass completely through. Terminal performance requires tumbling at a minimum and either expansion or fragmentation to truly wound in a capacity to down an animal humanely or stop a threat.
It works great for what it was designed for. In close , kicking in doors. , and being courteous, you don’t wanna wake up the neighbors , I love mine. Sig 220 s. Are crazy accurate over 100 yards. , It’s my south Tx go to rifle
Love the intro 😂. I really agree and feel with “100 yards and in i would shoot it all day if it wasn’t a dollar a rd. “ That being said I have found some AAC brand 300blk for 60cents a rd occasionally
I have a 9” 300BLK SBR built by Advance Armament Corp. (AAC) It runs perfect. I run a YHM R9 suppressor currently I borrowed off my AR9. Eventually I’ll get a dedicated 30cal can.
I love it for the versatility. So many great 308 loadings for supers. Subs are more of a novelty anyway. The true self defense subs are a fortune and hard to find.
Seems that for the most part, subs for SD don't perform as advertised. You really have to kick out some cash to get subs that will reliably fragment or expand. If all the subs will do is match 45 ACP ballistics, just pull the trigger a couple of more times to stop the fight.
Thanks for the honest review... It is tough to build a gun that could run both subs and supersonic ammunition... A/Rs can be finicky shooting suppressed and unsuppressed... Can be finicky to ammo... Lots of variables... The morale of this video is customer service... great customer service can go a long way... Unfortunately bad customer service leads to frustration...
I wish 300 blackout was cheaper... For a handloader 300 blackout is very comparable... Go to the range collect all the 223 brass you can find... Chop it down, form it , trim it , take out the primer crimp on military brass, load and go... On average it takes 10 grains less powder for supersonic loads than the 223... 30 cal bullets are a little more expensive than 22 cal bullets...
I think of the blackout as the american 7.62 x39... supersonic loads should be compared to that... Apples and oranges to the 223... 300 blackout in a sub gun suppressed shooting subs compared to a 9mm sub definitely has an advantage...
I love the brutally honest reviews. Keep em' coming.
My American tactical runs super and subs from factory. Cheap and works. Although throw on a adjustable gas block and you can fix almost any of them. I run S&B flawlessly every time
I snagged the AAC upper back in like 2013 and its been so good. Its unfortunate you had so many issues with your 300BLK.
con on sub/suppers is the install of a riflespeed gas block. No tool adjustment for subs and supers are no problem.
The intro deserves both writing & cinematic awards 😂
300BO is great for having really quiet PCC-type balistics and AK-type ballistics out of the same lower/mags/everything else beside the barrel.
Very interesting review.
My thoughts for what they're worth (maybe not much for some). I built a 300 Blackout firearm using a custom blend of components with a 10.5 barrel and a Superlative Arms Adjustable Gas Block. I was able to tune the Gas Block to run Supers with no problem, but it has to be suppressed to run Subs repeatedly and with lock back. Since I primarily run it with a can that is fine for me.
I also use dedicated 300 Blackout mags. 1. So that I never mix 5.56 or .223 ammo with it or a 5.56 or .223 firearm and 2. because they feed better than 5.56 or .223 mags. Most folks know to never mistakenly run a 300 Blackout round through a 5.56/.223 firearm (catastrophic) or vice versa (bad day!), but I thought it worth mentioning.
One of my buddies has a Wilson Combat firearm which is able to run Supers and Subs without a can due to how the gas port is designed. I believe one other manufacturer has made a firearm for a while that also can run Supers and Subs without a can, but the name escapes me.
I recently purchased a Spear LT in 300 Blackout and it also can run Supers and Subs without a can, although it will not have last round hold open without the 2 position Gas Block being on the Suppressed setting. I replaced the Muzzle Brake and put on a Lantac Dragon so that I could use my existing Dead Air Sandman Suppressor, although I'll eventually purchase the Sig Suppressor made for the Spear LT and reinstall the Sig Muzzle Brake that came with the firearm.
Finally, I hope Chris forgives the Engineer in me to state that Energy is 1/2*Mass*Velocity Squared, not just Mass*Velocity, so the Velocity has much more to do with Energy than just Mass. The energy of a 220 grain Sub round is roughly equivalent to 45 Caliber pistol round (interestingly enough 300 Blackout Rounds use Pistol Powders vs Rifle Powders which is one reason why they can run through shorter barrels).
Thanks for indulging my long winded essay Gentlemen and keep up the great, honest and always interesting reviews. Your loyal Patron!
Cheers mate 🍻
Which Sig can? I have a SLX762C(long story) on my SR30 upper. I haven’t shot it yet cause I’m waiting on AFT to approve SBR.
I only have two 300blk anymore a 8.5 ar and tavor x95. I enjoy them. But I don't shoot them as often because they're expensive to shoot for fun.
Intro is nice 👍! 300 BO is niche and cool, but dang it’s not cheap to plink with!
agreed and thank you for watching and commenting dude we appreciate it
This video intro is hilarious and awesome. Well I’m new to the 300 Blackout. Only shot about 30 rounds through a suppressed Daniel Defense PDW that my coworker facilitated and that was all it took for me to order my own. I currently got a DDM4ISR at my local range waiting on the ATF that I pay conjugal visits to
You're going to love the ISR!
Can't wait for the Promethean review! Looking forward this one too.
It's a red dot like the Sig 8T. I did a video review on it. Looking forward to the syndicate take.
It's like an 8T but the shroud is reversed and screws moved slightly on a visual level. The performance on paper seems the same too. That being said if it's a clone for way cheaper he'll yeah.
Yeah, seems like an interesting optic, though I cancelled my preorder on one just for the weight alone. Not much lighter than its 8T counterpart, and that thing was a pig for just being a dot sight.
I'm in Arizona and my stag arms (cause in lefty) runs perfectly 300blk sub/super and suppressed!!!! awesome video!!!!!! Well Done!!!
I like it for suppressed and short barrels. Makes more sense to me than 5.56 under 14.5/11.5“ barrels. I know you said the MK18 can punch out to 300 yards. My question-what’s the terminal performance on target from a MK18 at 300 yards?
Less energy than a flick lol.
I know it's still lethal, if thats your question. I sure wouldn't run 62gr M855 from it, unless thats all you have.
After having been shot by 9mm, my interest in terminal performance conversations has waned signifigantly. Lethalty is much much much more dependent on where youre shot than bullet expansion, fragmentation, etc...
10.5 300blk can reach out to 300yrds and hit way harder than 5.56, 110grn vmax is the way to go can or no can.
It’s enough to ruin your day if you get hit by 556 at 300
I have a 300 in a DD setup and the subsonic use has been exceptional. I started using it just to try out a new caliber but among the LE community the uses of it has been a game changer. By no means am I an expert but from my own experience a 300 blackout system set up with a quality suppressor is a great platform for CQB but also for officers who have to train for a school scenario.
What suppressor works for you ???
I just absolutely love story time!!
I am now requesting.. no.. DEMANDING a bedtime story. Great! Thanks!
300 blackout is awesome!!! I make make 155 gr. At about 1700 fps and over 900fp of energy. Cast a great prepper option! And you can hunt deer 🦌.
Being in the middle of a very expensive SR30 build I was like “uh-oh am I going to regret this build?” Just sent my blood money & finger prints to the constitution haters 9 days ago. I understand the limits of this build but It’s for home defense along with my USP 45tac. Felt better after watching the video cause I really respect your opinions/reviews.🤙🏻
Sr30??? What is it? Tell me more....
@@jonathank7394 KNIGHT ARMAMENT SR 30 is either an SBR or with pistol brace. Compact 9" .300 Blackout. Cost: $2,800 and Up. They are in Titusville, FL and have a huge fan base.Excellent suppressors etc..
Great video guys! My go to 300 blackout is the Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW it runs everything and with my Omega 36M it is stupid quiet.
Heard nothing but good things about those
Greetings brothers. Really enjoyed your video and comments. I have three 300 blackouts. 7.5", 10.5" and 16". Although many people rave about this caliber on shorter barrels with silencers, I do not own any of them. I reload mainly 125 grain ammo with great group achieved up to 50 yards with the shorter barrels while the 16" at 100 yards the groups are extremely adequate between .75 and 1.00. My 16" is a hog and deer of choice up to 200-250 yards. Sorry fellows, I think of my guns mainly as a hunting piece and not a defense although I must admit that my truck gun is the 7.5" and my home protection is the 10.5".
I have a 300BLK build and my main use is home defense and some hunting aspects. Great for home defense with a can plus hits harder for some hunting applications than a 5.56.
i put a nemo arms 300 blk buffer spring and new BCG.. my build runs subs flawlessly
I believe 300BO could be a good replacement for 3030 win,and 3006 Springfield,in the northern Michigan Deer woods.
I have a PSA 7.5 300 aac, It runs Subs, supers with out any problems, 125-220g with a Dead Air 30 can It is perfect, Also a sig Virtus 300 aac, 9.5 inch with the same can, Shoots all types of rounds .Piston gun with adjustable gas block
I load all the rounds Great guns
One of the best videos you guys have done.Really good stuff.
Great video. Awesome review.
FYI I know of a special response team (SRT) down in south FL that uses 300. 🤙🏽🇺🇸
Coming late to this discussion. BTW, that intro was first class! I think the most important discussion concerning this subject is rarely discussed which is “silence to violence.” You said it but really didn’t discuss it. Using a 10.5” barrel and 125 grain super projectiles, 300BO achieves similar ballistics to a full sized AK47, it’s an effective 300 yard gun with a 10.5” barrel. The 5.56 is an effective 300 yard gun with a 14.5” barrel, minimum. So all this talk about you can do everything with 5.56 you can do with 300BO is nonsense. So, no, you cannot effectively suppress 5.56 from a 10.5” barrel and you cannot achieve effective hits at 300 yards from a 10.5” barrel. Silence to violence. Is it more expensive? Sure, but just say that. You don’t need to try to degrade the cartridge because you don’t want to purchase it.
Good points made. Also not buying 308 because it's $2 a round is a moot argument.....
I have 3 300's. 1 rifle 2 pistols, my 2 pistols run SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas blocks on 10.5" barrels that i run supers through. These are built for home defense and i load my own rounds for.
What you do is load your own, you buy prefired 223 rounds cut them down with a jig and trim them down and stuff them with whatever round you want
300 Blk is the only caliber I trust with a barrel under 10 inches. Especially suppressed
yep
Yea, great round for its very niche for what it was intended for. Really hard to be for that purpose, for anything else there is better rounds.
I use a Ruger bolt gun canned for hunting in .300blk and it works well for hearing protection and I’ve harvested over 2 dozen deer and hundreds of feral hogs. I also have an SBR with a can that my wife uses for home defense and for her daily commute. She carries an x-macro too, but the 300 is for a shtf situation on the highway aka a riot masked as a protest. Too much? Perhaps, but better to have and not need than need and not have.
@@zack9912000 I wouldn't say it's "very niche." So many think 300 BLK is only for subsonic close-quarter work. You can load a 110 - 125 gr bullet that can drop a mule deer or feral hog at 200 yards. Out to 300 it will drop man-sized targets and smaller predators.
@@zack9912000 and that intended purpose is short barrel rifles used for close quarters work, only useful rifles in my densely forested area where shots are not over 100yrds. most of the time you can't see 20 feet in front of you under the triple canopy rainforest i live in. not a good shtf round though, because, ammo availability will be slim to none when the country collapses. 5.56 will be everywhere. imo everyone should have at least one blackout build, just because, why not. plus you can run aluminum suppressors with 300blk no prob. suppressors last way longer with 300blk and they barely heat up, they stay cool to the touch even after multiple mag dumps.