GOLF: Hip Depth + Hip Tilt = No Early Extension
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2020
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This is such a great video. Posture is so important and so taken for granted. Keeping my right hip high and back longer is my #1 swing thought. As always, thanks for posting, Eric!!
Thank you! Our pleasure!
Really great content, Eric. I happen to suffer from early extension in my golf swing, and your videos on the subject have given me some great feels to take to the range to practice. I was one who didn’t respond well to the standard “keep the butt against a wall or bag drill”.
Appreciate the kind words my friend!
Thank you once again for a great video. I learn useful info every time I watch. This is the cure I needed for my worsening early extension issues. Used this technique today and immediately saw improvements in my balance and tighter shot dispersions and ball strikes. Thank you!
Our pleasure! Love to hear that!!
Awesome video,, Eric and JT.
Thank you!
Excellent! Appreciate knowing the proper hip depth during stance = center of hip over ankle. This video helped me realize I was setting up with my hips too far back, so they little choice other than to creep forward. The center of hip over ankle feels like a much more neutral, natural stance.
Thanks, Gerry!
Thanks always great stuff
Appreciate it, Doug!
Brilliant demo!
Thanks, Wesley!
I have known for a long time that for me, if I take a peek to the right before I pull the trigger, and reinforce a slight hesitation before moving my hips on the down swing, I always hit the ball much more solid and consistent. I could never fully understand why but it just worked. It feels really good that I now know why and I can’t believe how simple it really is. My swing thought at practice will now be holding the right, then replace with the left. This will prevent a slide, coming out of it, and keep me planted in posture for power and accuracy, every time. Where most people get into trouble is by trying to get power from early extension. Thanks
Hope you get it sorted my friend and continue to see improvement!
As usual spot on Eric !! Great point about the set up creating early extension later in the swing.The feeling of tucking the butt in is key - (see George Gankas vids re "sloppy set up". Watch Matt Wolff who sets up great.
So important not to stick the butt out backwards too much as it will do the opposite in the through swing and come forward resulting in early extension.Loving the JT input also.
Appreciate the kind words my friend!
Great video Eric! I've been trying to correct this problem for months (didn't know I even had it for decades). I've been trying tons of different drills. The 2 keys that have helped the most are presented in this video: hip depth and set up. Set up is huge! If your butt is back too far before you even begin your swing, it's going to be very difficult to keep it back and it won't remotely feel natural. If your set up is correct, it makes it a million times easier to establish and maintain hip depth during the swing. Another tip that's helped is not only trying to keep your right hip depth during transition, but try to push it back even farther via a slight squat. Out of all your early extension videos, this is your best. Thanks again!!!!
100%
Love to hear that, John! Keep it rolling!
Excellent lesson
Thank you!
Right hip deeper and higher than the left is such a key to crisp, solid impact. I almost feel like my right hip reaches a point where it feels "cocked" and ready to fire in the downswing. It also stops swaying and gets my belt buckle in front of the ball at impact. I have become a striker, not a sweeper. I bet most non-pros are missing this ingredient. I was.
Love to hear this, Tim!
Tremendous, guys!
Thanks, Martin!
Eric I want your swing lol never get there but going for it!! Soo effortless but solid as a mo fo !!!
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This is huge!!! Deeper and higher, this was the move I was missing.
Yes!!!
Great video Eric. I battle woth esrly extension.
Appreciate it!
I tried it today and it does work
Love it!
Eric - This is Jim. I probably missed this but to confirm.
In the backswing, the pressure into the right side should always feel to be in the INSIDE of the right foot??
Pressure INSIDE right foot to begin B/S with pressure transferring to INSIDE right heel at top.
You want to turn into your right side on B/S with pressure on the INSIDE of right foot throughout.
Thanks buddy. Jim
Hey Jim---yep----commented on your other post!
Great video, I'll try this when I have access to a range again. However I'm 6' 4", fairly long legs, average arms, and with the recommended setup I physically can't get to the ball, especially with a short iron. I have to add more hip tilt, which moves my centre of balance too far forward. I then have too push my butt back to compensate. Previously a 4hcp, so a fairly good ball striker, but significant early extension. When playing regularly short irons were definitely my Achilles heel. An iron from 200 was more likely to hit the green than from 120. Thanks for any feedback.
Thanks for the kind words and feedback.
I would start with a club fitting....maybe need longer clubs than you have.
You can also go with wider stance (feet farther apart) which acts to lower you more.
@@CogornoGolf Thanks for the reply. I've been using +1/2" and 2/3 upright, depending on the manufacturer, for about 30 years, but I guess these days it's much easier to get a standard swing weight with more additional length, especially now Callaway are adding weights to their premium irons. I know Mizuno offer two head weights to compensate. I was also looking at Adam Scott and notice he has a bit more knee bend, but keeps his hips over his heels, so I might try that too. Thanks again.
Best to get an in person fitting with a good fitter! Then no guessing needed!
Eric I feel like ur talking to me!!! Wow ty again!!!
:) Got ya covered my friend!
@@CogornoGolf thank u and keep em coming!!!
General observation... would be interesting to get your thoughts. On the swings you made in which you got your hip deep, the front of your head starts to back away from it's line in the backswing and even further in the downswing. I think this is becoming a more common pattern on tour. Justin Rose does it to some extent and Scott Piercy backs his head up a lot. Seems very challenging to get hips super deep while still keeping head on the wall. Nonetheless, your swing looks really good!
Thank you!
I definitely do that (more than I would like)....I just dont practice enough to change the pattern to be honest.
I would prefer the head to stay "on the wall".
I developed that in my swing a few years back when I trained it in on purpose with DRIVER to gain more speed (which worked well).
BUT with irons it can cause the occasional toe hit for me....as well as having to lengthen my trail arm a bit more than I would like (higher dynamic loft)
Awesome. Can you do one on hip tilt as it relates to the pivot post impact?
Sure!
Right hip lower, left hip higher!
@@CogornoGolf You're the second person to tell me this, lol. Going to the range, BRB, lol. Seriously though, thanks for the tip.
I’ve been struggling with EE for years. After watching this video, I realized that (1) my butt was too far back at address; and (2) I wasn’t getting enough right hip depth during backswing. You fixed it!
What swing benefits can be achieved from eliminating early extension?
Love it!
-Better compression, more distance, more consistent contact, better club face control
@@CogornoGolf ok so basically everything. Fixing EE will improve every aspect of hitting a golf ball. Thank you!
Any videos for loss of spine angle please, my head tends to move up and away hips don’t thrust forward to much, keep up the great content
The clue to keeping spine angle is to keep the butt cheeks deep - don’t lose the angle between thigh and spine early - for both back and through.👍
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@@CogornoGolf thanks pal
I started straightening my right knee( right handed golfer) and feel weight transfer to my right heel and I am able to automatically transfer weight back to front foot and eliminate early extension. Played 4 rounds and had 0 incidence. I feel straightening right knee causes hips to rotate better and better coil which causes good things in the down swing
Love it.
That is of course 100% accurate!
@@CogornoGolf one of your videos triggered this thought. Credit goes to you.
Modern instruction wrongly states to keep right knee locked in
Early extension is a major problem for most players. My partner would always say that I lifted my head when I flubbed a shot, but now I realize this is early extension, not my head lifting. It seemed to me this year that when I early extended the feeling was my left shoulder going up too soon on the downswing. So I concentrated on keeping my left shoulder mostly down from the top of the downswing to left arm parallelm as I shifted my hips left and this seemed to really help make more solid contact. Thoughts?
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@@CogornoGolf Thanks for the follow up!
Eric, both of you agreed that a steep downswing should be corrected first as early extension actually helps in that case. But what about increasing hip depth first - will that force the body to learn a shallower downswing?
Hey Joe!
It will not FORCE, no. But will help.
Hip depth will help turn which will help depth of hands. That would be like step 1. Doesn't guarantee shallow downswing but its a good place to start from bc you have nothing to make up for coming down
Eric, I struggle with thinking about hip depth on the way back, the visual just doesn’t work for me. Could a person think about turning their back center belt loop towards the target on takeaway as another thought but accomplishing the same thing you are talking about?
Hey Wen!
While that can be a great thought yes....it MAY or MAY not accomplish the depth.
Chair 1-2" behind right butt cheek
Push right butt cheek back to it
Its no more simple or complicated than that....see what you feel to accomplish.
On your threw swing are you keeping the face square and feeling like your swinging to right field?
Hey Scott!
I personally am not thinking of those things but some need to
I would need to see your swing to say for sure what you need to focus on
check out www.cogornogolf.com you can send in your swings there
Weight gets transferred automatically if this is done right...Am I correct? Thanks for the body of work. Helps us ams!
Our pleasure! Appreciate you being here with us!
Getting these pieces correct certainly helps a lot of other elements fall into place. I would check out this video for more info specifically on the weight shift...
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Let us know if you have any questions!
Straightening the right knee creates a better pivot. This is cobtrary to popular notion of keeping the knee flexed.
Yep
Once we get the right hip depth…should our arms “win the race” (Tiger quote) on the downswing and past the ball?
Hey John! In reality NO.....but what should you feel? Thats going to be different per player
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@@CogornoGolf you’re right, tried the Tiger technique and it was awful. Some day I’ll stop trying new shit and do more listening. 🙂
Curious about the timing commentary at 8:23. I suspect I’m establishing hip tilt/depth too early; what would be the follow-on effects of that?
Hey Evan!
You would then get the OPPOSITE reaction too early.
Our body/brain is always counterbalancing.
So if you do a movement TOO MUCH or TOO EARLY you are going to get the opposite movement too early in the backswing or early transition.
@@CogornoGolf thanks for the prompt and informative reply! Some of the best online golf content out there.
Also, for what it’s worth, I’ve struggled with a fairly steep downswing shaft pitch (as you all describe beginning at 6:50) for a while. I tried every method of manipulating the club into a shallow position but actually found that establishing and retaining more hip depth largely got me to a much more shallow position naturally. A lot of people may find that addressing the crux of this video will also help with that.
How do you get your right hip up and back? Is it by drving the pressure into the heel?
Hey Sambhu!
Its primarily done through the right leg straightening some from where it started and the left leg increasing bend (thats the main part that gets the right hip higher than the left)
The back part is the weight in the heel/hip turn part-yep!
@@CogornoGolf thank you for the prompt reply.
Eric - I am trying to work on keeping right hip high and deep. AND I am know I need to speed up my rotation from the top. How would you attack this? Thanks!! Jim
Hey Jim! Need to see your swing on video to advise on how to proceed with your swing. Sign up at www.cogornogolf.com and send us in your swings!
@@CogornoGolf Fair enough
How do stop the right hip moving too much out in front of you, even if it is on a lower plane in downswing. I struggle with this as a slider in the downswing.
Hey Paul!
Implementing the pieces from the following two videos will help out a lot!
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Thanks for being here with us!
i think you can get the right hip higher by letting the left knee flex towards the ball. Is that correct?
Thats correct.
The right hip gets higher from the left leg flexing (bending) and the right leg extending (straightening)
Ben Hogan was the master at this. Eric’s videos on this has helped my swing immensely.
Eric...how does one ingrain this? I revert to ,my old right knee lock in habit which causes inconsistent ball atriking....for a month I did this so naturally I was shooting in the 70s! Suddenly lost it
Hey Sambu!
1. Video feedback on each swing
2. Frequency of practice
3. Willingness to exaggerate
Rinse and repeat. Probably hire I good coach.
Then months of time.
@@CogornoGolf how do I work with you?
www.cogornogolf.com
Great video made even better by JT's facial hair
:) Jt is the best!
So what is happening with the left hip during transition?
It stays LOWER (as it was at top) during the first 1/2 of the downswing...
It is working DOWN AND FORWARD (toward the target) as its turning.
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I don’t think this gets enough attention. When I am doing this correctly I get good compression and a slight draw with extra distance. When I get lazy (bad back or stiffness) I early extend and hit weak fades off the toe and to the right. Worst shot in golf:(
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Hope this one continues to serve you well!
The guy behind you could use a lesson, lol.