That Guy James Most doctors live to 58 cause of the amount of stress that is involved in their career. You do realize they work almost 24/7 to help and treat their patients?
My sister had a child like 5 months ago. The husband's aunt is an anti vaxxer so my sister and him denied her and her children access to my nephew. She decided thats bullsht and showed up to the house and banged on the door and called the police because she wouldnt let her see her nephew. They now have a restraining order on her.
Let me put it this way. There is a reason the measles outbreak happened in Disneyland. 1. Have you seen pictures of the Measles? Anybody super infectious could never get past security. 2. It’s a high traffic area for young families, which means more young unvaccinated children. Practically everybody shares the same lines, seats, and bathrooms. Since Measles is both a bodily liquid contagion and an airborne virus that can last for 2 hours, a foreign agent could easily vaccinate himself then use one of those water bottle fans to crop dust an area or even the fuzzy character costumes, and no park employee would get suspicious. And hey, if the agent gets a free week of vacation while spreading measles, that’s a bonus.
"Dear God, please give us the answer to fixing diseases and helping us keep our children safe" *God creates scientists with brilliant minds to make vaccines* "EW GROSS POISONS!"
The pharmaceutical industry is systematically poisoning the populace to sell drugs. The vaccinated majority are more likely to catch whooping cough than the unvaccinated minority. The press neglects to mention unvaccinated people who didn't catch measles. Vaccines can cause seizures, coma, encephalitis, and death to name a few of their hazards. Deaths from infectious diseases were on the decline by 90 percent before vaccines. Sanitation reduces the spread of infectious diseases. Pharmaceutical companies don't "save lives", that wouldn't be profitable. A minority can't "weaken herd immunity". Measles isn't usually fatal, prior generations knew surviving measles and chickenpox was a rite of passage during childhood. Anybody who survived measles is less susceptible to cancer, Parkinson's disease, and other diseases. Vaccines contain carcinogens and neurotoxins.
Props to the doctor who was able to shed the light on the parents that were afraid of getting their child vaccinated. Sadley not all parents are as intelligent as those two being willing to listen rather than let paranoia rule their lives.
Paranoia isn't necessarily indicative of stupidity. It's a symptom of a mental illness. Not that all anti-vaxxers are mentally ill, but I think some might be.
Isn't it abuse if they are visibly sick and refuse treatment? How is it different from a doctor or teacher reporting a black eye or broken arm which can't be explained.
Yes, but due to the law stating that parents get to chose the medical choices for the child it doesn’t get reported as much(if at all) There are some religious nut job parents out there that refuse all medical help and treatment due to their beliefs which can lead to their children having permanent damage from not being allowed to get any form of medical treatment, or even worse, dying from not being allowed to get medical treatment because their parents say so. I’m not sure how much of a legal case can be made against those types of parents because unfortunately they can claim it goes against their religious beliefs. But yes, it is abuse and it should be viewed and treated as such. Parents should not be allowed under any circumstances to harm their child just because it goes along with the parents own beliefs.
@@jackierocha5096 I like how you specifically said "religious nut jobs" as if the non-religious nut jobs can't do the same thing. The "some" was a nice touch though, pointing out not all religious nut jobs do anti-vax. I'm also curious if you mean that having a belief in religion makes someone a nut job to you. All of this is genuine curiosity and not put for a patronizing purpose.
NO, it's not abuse, you're insane. Why are we OK with letting parents decide to kill their children in utero but we can't let parents decide what medical treatments to use? If parents are really too dumb to decide we'd all be dead already. In 1949, lobotomies won the Nobel prize in medicine and were used to treat everything from depression to schizophrenia. So would it be abuse for a parent to refuse to let a doctor to stick a steel spike in their depressed child's brain and sweep it side to side severing their neuron connections? You think modern drug treatments are better, OK, then why are we sicker and weaker than ever in recorded history and our life expectancy is dropping despite modern hospitals putting us on advanced machinery to prolong life? The cognitive dissonance in these comments is amazing, thank fuck your parents were smarter and less naive than you are.
@@gorkyd7912 To say your comparison of lobotomies, which aren't used anymore, and vaccines is flawed is... Like saying getting hit by a speeding 18 wheeler is good for your life expectancy. You can live with depression and schizophrenia plus it doesn't cause immense pain and suffering, diseases do. Also, by your logic, we should let parents beat their kids with whatever because it toughens the skin and healed broken bones makes them stronger unless they heal improperly which is likely to happen without medical expertise. Also, no not all of us are ok with parents murdering their unborn babies. In fact, the people saying that not vaxing your kid is abuse likely also believe abortion to be murder.
@@linop2 ...depression and schizophrenia don't cause immense pain and suffering? ...so the mumps do cause immense pain and suffering? I don't really care, your opinions, just don't try to tell parents what they should do to treat their own children from these bullshit factless medical theories you may have formed from watching TV or whatever. It's not your business and all of history proves that parents make better decisions than doctors. Parents are the reason we have doctors in the first place, prosecuting them for disagreeing with doctors is state-backed slavery; you're forcing them to raise someone else's kids.
(Pause at 15:16 and read it.) DM: Charisma and Intelligence check. Attending Physician: *Rolls a D20* Dm: Anti-Vax theorist mother is convinced and agrees with you. The rest of the party: ........ Uh, what?
And I am pretty sure a medical ethics board will back him up. Hejus gave her alternate possibility to think about How valid she thinks it may be or not or what decisions she makes based on it is all her. He never said that it was true or in any way factual.
As someone with Asperger's (a form of autism) I find the idea of a parent rather putting their child at risk of death instead getting autism as the biggest, cruellest insult I've ever received. It's literally saying death is better than autism.
I have autism as well and the vaccine austim rubbish came along it was completely ridiculous science but it caught the imagination of the insane people who chose not the vaccine
I’ve heard people literally say this. Like, my life has some extra challenges (I’m AuDHD-PI twice-exceptional), but it’s definitely better than being blind, or deaf, or paralyzed, or dead at 3 or 13 (the ages my great-aunts were when they died of typhoid and diphtheria)! 🤨
That last one was so satifying to listen too How do you deal with conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxers? Make an EVEN MORE REDICULOUS pro-vaccine consipracy for them
Not so ridiculous. The Russians are well known for spreading Misinformation, especially if it weakens or divides a Country in some way, shape, form or fashion. It ia a primary tactic for them.
14:30 using propaganda to counter propaganda... DESTRUCTION 100 Edit: thanks for 100 likes Edit 2: holy crap thanks so much for 250 likes Edit 3: WHAT THE HECK thanks SO much for 300 likes
A anti-vax parent tried to sue a internet friend of mine,after he saved their son and explained that was their fault that their child almost died,the result was them having to pay 10.000 to my friend plus court cousts and their kid was taken from them.
@@chaoscontroller316 his logic is sound, your reading comprehension is the problem here. he's saying not to physically force them to get a vaccine against their will.
Karen 2.0:*Starts a full, carefully organised and hand-picked from the finest anti-vaxx sites speech full of passion* Attendant: But what if all this propaganda about vaccines is a creation of the Soviet and Chinese to weaken USA? Karen 2.0: :0
My aunt doesn't vaccinate her three children. I casually asked them about it and in these exact words the oldest said: Because mama doesn't want us to be poisoned. I screaming internally.
"Vaccines cause autism" I happen to know someone who went unvaccinated as a kid and was still diagnosed with autism. His anti-vax parents were so confused.
Be careful. There was a vaccine here in the Philippines called dengvaxia and it killed many children before our government discontinued distributing it. Please do your research about any vaccine you see, and check in with people who have used it before and see if they're healthy. If they are, then take the vaccine.
You can Google articles and news reports on the dengvaxia vaccine being discontinued because it killed over a hundred children here in the Philippines.
Lost an amazing friend to Meningitis. Went to his funeral and the church was filled with all the lives he had touched and improved for the better. There was not a composed face in the room, almost every adult was sobbing and trying to do so silently to avoid disrupting the ceremony. His biological family was there but he had a falling out with them years ago, so no one paid attention to them. In a way, I think we blamed them, that it was their fault his life had a timer counting down... and that it was only sheer luck he hadn't caught anything sooner.
i nearly died from meningitis when i was 6 months old so i ended up going deaf instead. reading all these horror stories people dying from meningitis scares me, i was lucky. even if i did die, i wouldn't remember my life at 6 months old.
How do these parents escape vaccinating their kids? When I was in school- my parents had to provide my shot record with cuurent vaccinations, if not then I couldn't attend school
Nice. This is just a thought by me but I would add something to it along the lines of Do you also see that your Google searches and Facebook could also all be fake as you claim medical research to be?
As someone who’s on the spectrum, but who also has a fear of needles, it triggers me when someone blames ASD on vacations... I might have an anxiety attack getting my vacations, but I’ll calm down eventually.... I’d prefer the anxiety attack to whooping cough, anyway!
I’m a proud anti-vaccine mom and I still have my 5 beautiful children Edit: 4 wonderful kids Edit 2: 2 children Edit 3: One living houseplant Edit 4: I live alone now and go to anti vaccination marches- but hey at least I’m not getting autism from vaccinations!
The medical student breaking it down for the parents is my favorite anti-vax response yet. Actually helped people understand and get past the common misconceptions
It's a great story and it's good to know that there are plenty of folk who are actually willing to listen if you explain things patiently. But most of the hate against anti-vaxxers isn't against those kind of parents with legitimate concerns who can be persuaded if you just lay out the facts and lend a sympathetic ear. The hate is for those who don't base their belief on facts or logic, they've decided that vaccines are evil and will burn down the hospital before they admit they're wrong. Both groups exist and it's definitely unfortunate that the more reasonable ones often end up as collateral damage as people get sick and tired of dealing with the extremists.
Woah 3yr old and heart rate of 200?? I ate extremely hot hot food and got a stomach ache and had to go to hospital.. My heart rate was over 100+ and that was bad according to doctors.. I couldn't leave until it went down Im in my 20s poor kid.
In South Carolina, there are three vaccines that you are required by law to get before seventh grade or you can't return to public school. Only certain religious exceptions are allowed. State government covers the cost of the vaccines as well.
My mum had a kid about in February I’m 15 (I know age gap blah blah blah my mum is still only 37 so she’s still younger than other mums) We used to take my little brother to a club for a song time thing where they all sing I usually wouldn’t go but one week my mum went and asked them “is every child here vaccinated????” They responded with “no” My mum then started asking should they really be allowed and all that to stay here They replied with “it’s not a big deal they aren’t vaccinated but since the other kids are they aren’t actually causing any harm” My mum then started arguing and when I get off school I usually end up coming back to the song time because it’s on my way home and my mum usually is leaving by that point The place seemed oblivious to the fact that the measles shot and all that isn’t available until 12 months and that if one of these 5 year olds or something gets it they might be fine because it could be mild but they could give it to my brother I heard them arguing and asked what’s going on They said “Your mum is starting an argument” I asked “For what” They said “Well some of the kids aren’t vaccinated--“ I just walked off grabbed my brother put him over my shoulder said “Mum come on we won’t come back” And just got into the car I came back the next day when it was closed and painted “They don’t vaccinate their kids here” On the wall because what if my mum didn’t ask and then my brother got the measles because some fucker didn’t vaccinate their kids If this did happen I would rip the parents arms off shove one down their throat and one up their ass and make them shake their own hands.
Claudia Juarez I don’t think U understand why I did it I didn’t do it because they annoyed me I did it because I don’t want another family to take their child who is too young for their vaccines and not be aware that the others there aren’t vaccinated. I hate it when I hear stories of children getting whooping cough or the measles because another parent was too ignorant. And it wasn’t huge but it was big enough for people to see
@Claudia Juarez If the other party is anti vaxxer then you are in all the right to try to change them or kill them if its necessary, all for public security
This just happened lmao, so last week was our high school founders day, we had two other high schools come to ours to celebrate (boys school). We had fun and played basketball and it was a cool chill day, this morning we found out one of the students in the boys school had measles, he was never vaccinated and his mother was anti vax and hated vaccines. He infected our school and we all got an email from our vice principal alerting us so now today people are freaking out and I had to call my mother to get a measles vaccination again, wish us luck I might die. Update will come soon
@@gorkyd7912 vaccines are not perfect protection, for them to work at 100% they need that everyone is vaccinated, once someone gets the illness that makes the illness stronger and more likely to mutate and make the vaccine useless, that is the reason vaccines need to be mandatory except for ppl with allergy
@@diablo.the.cheater That is wrong on a basic level. Vaccines simply help prepare a person's immune systems for a particular disease. So even if we all were 100% vaccinated, everyone with dysfunctional immune systems are still vulnerable to the disease. Therefore, don't keep pushing 100% vaccination like they actually cure diseases, vaccines do not replace people's immune systems. Getting too many vaccines all at once during early childhood development MAY cause unintended damages to the person's immune system that affect their ability to fight diseases later in life, making the entire population more vulnerable than they would have been with no vaccines at all.
@@gorkyd7912 um, getting the diseases back to back weakens immune systems, duh. Why do you think childhood mortality was so high before vaccines? You might survive measles, then mumps, then pertussis, then small pox, then polio comes along and BOOM dead.
A teacher in my school Mr Pritchard starts getting triggered if you say antivax is good , he teaches science its amazing to see his head turn same colour as his hair ( ginger )
In this day and age that last one might be true...moral of the story, don't trust social media over people who's job it is to research on these subjects.
@@filipwolffs Tetanus kills 1 or 2 per year maybe. Obesity kills 300,000 per year. Yet doctors are gods for telling you to get a TDAP booster every time you get a scrape but they don't even bother giving basic dietary recommendations.
@@gorkyd7912 I'm not about to worship them, but I do listen to the guy who's spent years studying on how to keep people alive. That aside, yes obesity is an issue and yes doctors could put more emphasis on it but that doesn't mean that they should stop warning people about other health issues. it's not a zero sum game where they can only warn you about one thing. Although from what I gather a lot of doctors do try to tell people to eat less and work out more and they get flat out ignored because people are awful at changing their lifestyle, especially if it requires effort on their part. They'd rather keep doing what they've always done and depend on doctors to keep them alive when it inevitably goes wrong.
@@filipwolffs If you're a new parent you may not know anything about raising children, there's no license or user manual. So you're talking to the pediatrician (because you're referred to them by the hospital where the child was born) and they're giving the child vaccines at birth, 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 12 months, and 15 months while strictly warning parents who may question/refuse that if they don't get these vaccines the child could die of measles, mumps, hepatitis, flu, meningitis, chicken pocks etc. So not, counting well-checks, you'll see the pediatrician at least 6 times in the first 2 years of the child's life and be warned about all these issues. You would think in that time if doctors actually cared about preventable diseases they would be able to give parents similarly urgent warnings about poor diet since obesity kills exponentially more people than every vaccine-prevented disease combined, weakens immune systems so these preventable diseases are more deadly, 1.5 million people are diagnosed with diabetes every year, and the eating habits passed on to children can shape their diet for the rest of their lives. All I'm saying is don't blame parents for ignoring the risk of preventable diseases when pretty much every pediatrician in the country does the same thing even though it's supposedly their job.
7:13 you mean....literally herself [or any anti vaxxer, for that matter] at that very moment, and yet she wasn't able to identify the pure essence of hypocrisy....
I want a serious reddit about anti-vaccers who’s kids were lost to preventable diseases and what they went though. It’ll be interesting to see their perspectives after the fact
My mother who is a retired]State worker. Long and short of what she did, she helped to plan the care and living arrangements, ether in state run group homes or with family's of the Mentally/Physical disabled people in our county. Please keep in mind these women (later men) where children in the 40s 50's 60's when the vaccines where new, and the recommended schedule for them was still "Wing it for how young, and guess work on how close together.". She read countless reports from formerly perfectly healthy nuro-normal children who where later put in to state care: "Retardation Brought on From High Fever Following Vaccination in Early Childhood.". That risk was the biggest concern for my mom as she always got a fevers after her shots, She worried about me getting them fearing the MMR schedule in the late 80's could produce that high risk fever. She talked with and "Karen-ed" My Doc in to doing them on a much more spread out time table. I am not joking my mom Karen-ed before Karen-ing was a thing moms did.
I like the one where he convinced the parents to choose vaccines. It's refreshing to see that not all anti-vaxers are stupid, some are just misinformed.
I can relate to the 80-pound 14 year old. i had an anti-vaxx mom, who made me go through the Paleo Diet for two years. i couldn't eat bread, rice, sugar, potatoes, beans, corn, or milk. Nor anything with GMO's. i am built with a large (5'8 at the time in 6th grade, I'm 5'11 now in 9th), broad-shouldered body type, along with my ribs naturally poking out slightly, so when my diet couldn't keep up with my pubescent, large body, I lost maybe around 60 pounds (150~ to 98.5 by the time i moved o my dads house) My dad worked labor a lot so he mad food with a lot of protein and fats, with the sudden change of diet my body reacted negatively, not to mention I was gaining weight, fast. I, being already depressed, became anorexic for about 7 months before I got help. Though I was lucky not to get polio from being an anti-vaxx kid, although this lifestyle really fucked me over. If you are, or have thoughts of starting this diet, please, please don't push this on your children. If its to reset their system, or its mandatory, please watch carefully, don't let you child get affected as negatively as me.
I feel for you. My mother was on a lot of crazy diets, including speed, in the 1960s. I was a child and she had me on the same crazy diet. Grapefruit and two slices of toast all day. All kinds of crazy things. Liquid protein up to 600 calories a day and no food. You name it. It is a huge part of the reason why I am fat now. My growing body never adapted metabolically, and now it hangs on to every calorie I put in my mouth.
I was dating an medical Intern. She told me this story. A loudly anti-Vaxxer Mom came in with her toddler. She was also separated from but still co-parenting with the Dad. My MD g/f was doing the basic pre-check before the Doctor she was consulting with arrived. The Mom stopped the g/f and started firmly stating not to ask if her child had her vaccinations or not. She went through the list...autism, big pharma, mercury in medicine.....g/f said that she looked very confused but said nothing. Mom stopped her tirade to ask why g/f looked so confused. She told me later that she told the Mom that she needed to talk to the consulting Doctor. Then the senior Doctor arrived and checked the child’s charts. The Doctor was pleased and surprised. She then praised the Mom. The Mom asked why? The Doctor said because the Mom had changed her mind and that her daughter had gotten all her vaccinations. It turns out that the Dad, during one of his custody’s periods, had taken the toddler to the Clinic and made sure all her shots were up to date. The Mom went ballistic asking how dare we do such a thing. The Doctor pointed out that the Dad was listed as the parent and the Clinic had thought that the couple had changed their ant-vaccinations decision.
I actually wasn’t vaccinated, my parents aren’t anti vaxers (my mum is a Doctor) I just have a severe allergy to vaccines or any injections (my allergist said it was something they use to bind them.) I’ve actually been completely fine so far but it’s always been a big concern for my family that I could be seriously ill and there’s very little that can be done. So, if anyone watching this video is unsure if they think their child should be vaccinated (or know someone who is) please do! It’s so important! If you are fortunate to be have the opportunity for your child to be vaccinated then DO. IT
I know this is old but that's an excellent reason on why you're not vaccinated. But also why being vaccinated is important to other who can. You depend on herd immunity.
I actually went anti-vax for a couple months when I was 10, because I was scared straight by vaccines. Not because I was worried what was in them, just because they hurt. Man, I was stupid.
6:07 Even the MD who wrote the book recommending "delayed vaccination" admitted it was a stupid practice and only recommended it on the hope it would persuade anti-vax parents to vaccinate a little as opposed to not at all.
6:05 When I was in high school, the health teacher/coach told us about this method (giving vaccines over a period of time). I look back at it with horror because I wonder if he was anti vax and was pushing his narritive onto impressionable students.
That last one is just the best. That doctor is a Magnificent Bastard using his powers for good instead of evil. If I ever run into an argument with someone like that I'm going to drop that bomb on them.
Kid in my pen pal's class had an anti-vaxx mom. My pen pal said that every year for Christmas, he would wish for vaccination. His mom would refuse. He later died of rubella that he could have prevented with an MMR vaccine. Mom was charged with negligence, abuse, and man slaughter. #StopAntiVaxx
My mom was born in 1952, which is the same year as the worst Polio epidemic the US has ever seen. She was vaccinated for Smallpox as that was standard for babies at the time as part of the global eradication efforts but they didn't have a Polio vaccine or MMR vaccine invented yet. But she and her sister who shared a bedroom contracted both Measles and Scarlet Fever at the same time. She also got the Mumps at a different time. She said she doesn't remember having Chickenpox but I got it in Kindergarten (the vaccine was released shortly after, maybe
What drives me the craziest about the autism argument isn’t that autism is not cause by vaccines (though it drives me insane) it’s that these parents are saying they’d rather their child die then them having autism. In most cases, those with autism can live fairly normal lives if they receive support. Just to let those who will argue with me know: I am not saying this as a google psychologist with 2 hours of research. I’m saying this as an autistic woman with a bachelors in psychology and who is started grad school next month to earn her masters in social work. I️ actually enjoy my autism because it lets me see the world in a different way than neurotypicals. Yes, I️ struggle with social interacting and social norms but honestly I️ wouldn’t change a thing.
doctor : you should give your kids vaccines, they could die without them mum : no kid : **dies because they didn't get vaccines* * mum : **surprised pikachu face**
15:00 There is a reason Measles broke out in Disneyland. Because the foreign agent wasn’t just looking for a location with a high number of younger targets who didn’t get vaccines, but also because he wanted to go on vacation too.
@@datman879 - That's why I said "likely," as in "a good chance, but not definite." There may not be a specific law, but I'm sure there are rules in place that prevents medical physicians from blatantly lying to a patient about their medical care to convince them to make a decision that they otherwise wouldn't. Which, by the way, was exactly what the doctor did since I'm fairly sure the whole "foreign government body spreading lies to weak U.S.'s collective health" bit was completely pulled out of his ass. Now, mind you, it was a WHITE LIE, which was ment to help the kid and their peers and he is awesome for it. However, don't think that the medical board will really care if this was brought to them.
TheScorpion0081 he didn’t lie at all. He suggested another possibility of which information was true and which was false. The doctor isn’t lying because he never said he believed either side. He is simply making her consider another possibility. No one would ever get in trouble for helping someone see both sides
@@datman879 Well of course he wasn't going to say whether he believes it or not. The goal was for the Karen to believe in that misinformation or to doubt what she already knew, which was questionable to begin with bu the point stands. The willing spread of fabricated information, even with good intentions, is a lie. And yes, he could get in trouble for that. Morally, he shouldn't because his intentions are good, but think about this from a medical professionals POV. This lady did not believe that vaccines was distributed to help people, rather to hurt, and doesn't trust the TRAINED PROFESSIONALS to inform her otherwise on that and likely other matters of health. What if, hypothetically, in her panicked frenzy to get her child vaccinated, he has an adverse reaction to the vaccines (as extreme rare as that is). Not only does that confirm her irrational biases, but it also shatters any further trust in those of the field as now her and all the people she will likely online will have even more evidence to support their claims, thus putting the already at risk children in more danger. Fear is a powerful motive, but irrelevant fear is dangerous. It's the whole reason we have anti-vaxxers in the first place. Any doctor worthy of the title wants their patients to trust them and to be informed with proven data so they can better take care of them self, their fellow man, and their children. Her decision to vaccinate was not made by facts, but rather that same fear that made her decide not to vax to begin with, which comes with it's own risks. I may be inflating this, but my point is the doctor-patient relationship is built on the trust that any information exchanged is given with integrity and good faith so that the patient can receive the the best care and maintain their health with proven knowledge and medicine. Let me make clear, I acknowledge that he said that to help the child, no one can say otherwise. But he risked that doctor-patient relationship doing so and anything bad that happens because of it could cost him his job and license because doctors wants to maintain that trust.
TheScorpion0081 but he never LIED. He said “have you considered”. Sure it’s misleading, but in no way he lied. Lying would be him saying that it IS propaganda to weaken the US. Sure he suggested to that claim, but he never actually did. And to some degree anti vaccine “evidence” and articles could very well be propaganda by foreign countries. She was mislead, but he mislead her into doing something that would benefit her and others around her. The chances of it being illegal to convince their patients that vaccines are good by using the patients own logic is extremely low.
I managed to convince one antivaxx mom to get her kids vaccinations by saying “I love your kids, and babysitting them. However, my own immune system is horribly compromised from a chronic condition. If your kids were to catch a disease that has a vaccine, like chicken pox, and then I get sick from it... well, I just can’t watch your kids anymore. I’m so sorry.” Bonus is that I’m the only responsible babysitter in the area. The kids are all vaccinated and haven’t missed any school or fun events. I still get Sick
That last docter did a move I've actually seen a lot. I'm not studying human medicine, but its a classic. If someone presents you with a conspiracy theory, you just shoot them down with something even crazier. For example. "They faked the moon landing!" "You believe in the moon?" It hilarious to watch the gears grind to a halt for a second before revving up again with the new conspiracy as fuel
In Germany, we have a law in the making that will make it mandatory for children to be vaccinated to be able to attend kindergarten/school. And since school is obligatory (no homeschooling here) - well, most children will get vaccinated. For now, it's "only" about measles which have been on the rise, but its a start. The law could be in effect as early as spring of 2020.
Recently I asked my Mother (I am now 35) if I got my Measles shots as a kid. She told me I got a MMR (Measles, Mumps, and R something). She did confess one thing though. After I got the shot, I got a mild fever the next day. (I was about 9 months old). The day after when she entered my room, I deliberately looked away and avoided eye contact. She does not know if this was coincidence, but only after the shot did I show clear Autistic tendencies. 😓Dang. I did not know this. I am an adult living alone...but I don’t attach well to people and have no friend outside of work. That said, I rather be Autistic then dead. It’s also possible I had a bad reaction to the vaccine since my allergies can be a bit weird sometimes. If I wear anything besides pure gold, silver, or stainless steel I get rashes from Hell! 🤷♀️Maybe I reacted badly to the traces of Mercury preservative they had back then. 😅I survived having Chicken Pox 2x (yea, it can happen) and pneumonia the same year. I get a Flu shot every other year just to be safe and I plan to get the Shingles Shot when I hit 40 just to be safe!!!!
Children with autism typically begin to show symptoms before age 3,they can seem to be developing normally and then show symptoms suddenly,your case was just a coincidence. Mild sicknesses after a vaccine is just your immune system reacting and is relatively normal. You avoiding eye contact was just because you were angry at her,it's normal for children to get angry at their parents after a vaccine because they don't know why they're getting it,they just know they got hurt at some place their parents brought them to. That "study" that claims autism is caused by vaccines has been disproven,so vaccines causing autism is not possible. My ears also get rashes if I wear anything but gold,silver or stainless steel.I even got rashes from the plastic medical earrings that are supposed to be completely harmless. But anyways,hope I cleared things up for you!
Babanbo-sama Mom is pretty sure (hopes) it was coincidence. Seeing how sick I was as a kid....better slightly Autistic then dead!!! 🤷♀️Probably coincidence. I am personally pro vaccine. That said, if a Chicken Pox outbreak occurs, I will probably be fine!😅
autism is genetic, saying a vax can cause autism is like saying a vax can change your skin color, make you grow and extra finger or change your hair color, is is not a probability it is literally impossible for anything external or internal to give you autism, it is something you are born whit
@@diablo.the.cheater Well, neither families have known autism. Mom thinks what may of affected my brain a tiny bit was an incident that occurred before she knew she was pregnant. Apparently she fell into some poison ivy, and had a bad reaction. Doctors loaded her up with steroids. She thinks maybe the steroids had a tiny affect on my developing cells. I am high functioning, but don’t connect well with people. I am smart……but no one shares my interests. After much thought, I decided I am not fit for marriage and will stay single till death. No kids, no intimacy, no nothing. It’s better this way.
@@_nameful7066 Well, my Mom “confessed” before she knew she was pregnant, that she fell into a patch of poison ivy on a hike. Doctors gave her tons of steroids to counter the effects. She theorizes that maybe her immune system reaction, combined with the steroids, may of affected my brain a tiny bit. 🤷♀️ Who knows.
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3:45 This guy managed to save a child from having *totally* anti-vax parents
*Carefully, he's a hero*
Careful, not carefully.
I think that’s how it goes
@@alexwang982 No, it is carefully
@@alexwang982 It's carefully, this is a meme with a picture.
He's no hero
*HE'S A LEGEND*
@@cyberstrikebeast7997 You had us in the half not gonna lie
My doctor had a cup that said
“ Don’t mix your google research and my medical degree “
Maybe she still has it idk xD
I need that for my sister, shes a nurse
@@blankslate7491 I need that for my mother as well.
I need that myself lmao
That Guy James
And, where are the statistics and reports proving your statement?
That Guy James
Most doctors live to 58 cause of the amount of stress that is involved in their career. You do realize they work almost 24/7 to help and treat their patients?
That last doctor finally cracked the code on how to deal with these anti vaxx parents. I love it!
i agree and damn that was a good one right there/they're/their(don't know witch one to use).
I laughed so hard when I heard that.
Agreed 🤣🤣🤣
He totally hacked that faulty brain of hers.
Slayerkid 16 Karen’s reaction to the doctor’s hypothesis: *Surprised Pikachu face*
My sister had a child like 5 months ago. The husband's aunt is an anti vaxxer so my sister and him denied her and her children access to my nephew. She decided thats bullsht and showed up to the house and banged on the door and called the police because she wouldnt let her see her nephew. They now have a restraining order on her.
Awesome... kudos to your sis
Sounds like the type of content you'd find on /r/JustNoMIL.
Only here it's the aunt-in-law instead.
Good.
Good for your dear sister to do that!
Ya
That last Dr was playing 4D chess while the parent was playing checkers
And that was a r/MURDEREDBYWORDS of the CENTRY
@@seantaggart7382 *century
@@ovoanaestheticovo3740 close enough
4D inter dimensional upside down and underwater chess
Jacob Szymczak
Is that a Lythero reference?
Parents: I’m not vaccinating my kids
Kid: *dies* to preventable diseases
Parents: *surprised pikachu face*
Hi my name is Karen and I'm anti vaxx the GoVeRmEnT is bRaInWaSHiNg YoU
It was that damn phone.
@Max The Random Lepurchaun get the knitting sticks 😂
This is your fault doctor idiot you let him die! You could’ve gave him a shot not a vaxx
Doctor: 🤦♀️ or 🤦♂️
💀 🔥 💀 🔥
That last doctor lmao
Doctor: *lists facts and science*
Anti vax: *conspiracy theory*
Doctor: "ok..." *uno reverse card*
Someone should spread that 'propaganda' around. Lol for all we know it might be true. XD
Let me put it this way. There is a reason the measles outbreak happened in Disneyland.
1. Have you seen pictures of the Measles? Anybody super infectious could never get past security.
2. It’s a high traffic area for young families, which means more young unvaccinated children. Practically everybody shares the same lines, seats, and bathrooms.
Since Measles is both a bodily liquid contagion and an airborne virus that can last for 2 hours, a foreign agent could easily vaccinate himself then use one of those water bottle fans to crop dust an area or even the fuzzy character costumes, and no park employee would get suspicious.
And hey, if the agent gets a free week of vacation while spreading measles, that’s a bonus.
Science: *exists*
Anit-vaxx parents: [*confused screaming*]
@Xyre154 **sees a even crazier conspiracy theory** **Windows XP shutdown sound effect plays**
"Dear God, please give us the answer to fixing diseases and helping us keep our children safe"
*God creates scientists with brilliant minds to make vaccines*
"EW GROSS POISONS!"
*confused confusion
Science:*exists*
Anti-vaxxers: "is this racist/autism?"
The pharmaceutical industry is systematically poisoning the populace to sell drugs. The vaccinated majority are more likely to catch whooping cough than the unvaccinated minority. The press neglects to mention unvaccinated people who didn't catch measles. Vaccines can cause seizures, coma, encephalitis, and death to name a few of their hazards. Deaths from infectious diseases were on the decline by 90 percent before vaccines. Sanitation reduces the spread of infectious diseases. Pharmaceutical companies don't "save lives", that wouldn't be profitable. A minority can't "weaken herd immunity". Measles isn't usually fatal, prior generations knew surviving measles and chickenpox was a rite of passage during childhood. Anybody who survived measles is less susceptible to cancer, Parkinson's disease, and other diseases. Vaccines contain carcinogens and neurotoxins.
Props to the doctor who was able to shed the light on the parents that were afraid of getting their child vaccinated. Sadley not all parents are as intelligent as those two being willing to listen rather than let paranoia rule their lives.
Paranoia isn't necessarily indicative of stupidity. It's a symptom of a mental illness. Not that all anti-vaxxers are mentally ill, but I think some might be.
Flat earther: We’re the dumbest species to have ever walked on the earth
Anti vaxxer: Hold my essential oils
at least flat earthers do not hurt anyone, anti vaxxers put in risk the persons that for medical(allergy) reasons can't get vaccines.
The Missing Diamond Helmet // TMDH Rudra
the difference between flat earthers and anti vaxxers is one of them is deadly
@@thelivingliver6715 You say that until the flat earthers threaten to throw you off the edge 🤣
@@jshadow1515 LOL That's a good one! 🤣
Aitor Rosell Torralba that’s why antivaxxers are dumber
Isn't it abuse if they are visibly sick and refuse treatment? How is it different from a doctor or teacher reporting a black eye or broken arm which can't be explained.
Yes, but due to the law stating that parents get to chose the medical choices for the child it doesn’t get reported as much(if at all)
There are some religious nut job parents out there that refuse all medical help and treatment due to their beliefs which can lead to their children having permanent damage from not being allowed to get any form of medical treatment, or even worse, dying from not being allowed to get medical treatment because their parents say so. I’m not sure how much of a legal case can be made against those types of parents because unfortunately they can claim it goes against their religious beliefs.
But yes, it is abuse and it should be viewed and treated as such. Parents should not be allowed under any circumstances to harm their child just because it goes along with the parents own beliefs.
@@jackierocha5096 I like how you specifically said "religious nut jobs" as if the non-religious nut jobs can't do the same thing. The "some" was a nice touch though, pointing out not all religious nut jobs do anti-vax.
I'm also curious if you mean that having a belief in religion makes someone a nut job to you. All of this is genuine curiosity and not put for a patronizing purpose.
NO, it's not abuse, you're insane. Why are we OK with letting parents decide to kill their children in utero but we can't let parents decide what medical treatments to use? If parents are really too dumb to decide we'd all be dead already. In 1949, lobotomies won the Nobel prize in medicine and were used to treat everything from depression to schizophrenia. So would it be abuse for a parent to refuse to let a doctor to stick a steel spike in their depressed child's brain and sweep it side to side severing their neuron connections? You think modern drug treatments are better, OK, then why are we sicker and weaker than ever in recorded history and our life expectancy is dropping despite modern hospitals putting us on advanced machinery to prolong life? The cognitive dissonance in these comments is amazing, thank fuck your parents were smarter and less naive than you are.
@@gorkyd7912 To say your comparison of lobotomies, which aren't used anymore, and vaccines is flawed is... Like saying getting hit by a speeding 18 wheeler is good for your life expectancy. You can live with depression and schizophrenia plus it doesn't cause immense pain and suffering, diseases do. Also, by your logic, we should let parents beat their kids with whatever because it toughens the skin and healed broken bones makes them stronger unless they heal improperly which is likely to happen without medical expertise.
Also, no not all of us are ok with parents murdering their unborn babies. In fact, the people saying that not vaxing your kid is abuse likely also believe abortion to be murder.
@@linop2 ...depression and schizophrenia don't cause immense pain and suffering? ...so the mumps do cause immense pain and suffering? I don't really care, your opinions, just don't try to tell parents what they should do to treat their own children from these bullshit factless medical theories you may have formed from watching TV or whatever. It's not your business and all of history proves that parents make better decisions than doctors. Parents are the reason we have doctors in the first place, prosecuting them for disagreeing with doctors is state-backed slavery; you're forcing them to raise someone else's kids.
(Pause at 15:16 and read it.)
DM: Charisma and Intelligence check.
Attending Physician: *Rolls a D20*
Dm: Anti-Vax theorist mother is convinced and agrees with you.
The rest of the party: ........ Uh, what?
Fiana Farrington Oh goodness.
Haha, nice
Conspiracy theorist: The moon landing was faked.
Me, an intellectual: Pfffft, you believe in the moon?
@@tobyswiss7909 me: the sky exists
The last doctor is a genius
12+ years of education and practice makes doctor's brain evolve to counter patient's bullshit.
And I am pretty sure a medical ethics board will back him up. Hejus gave her alternate possibility to think about How valid she thinks it may be or not or what decisions she makes based on it is all her. He never said that it was true or in any way factual.
Reminded me of House.
As someone with Asperger's (a form of autism) I find the idea of a parent rather putting their child at risk of death instead getting autism as the biggest, cruellest insult I've ever received. It's literally saying death is better than autism.
I have autism as well and the vaccine austim rubbish came along it was completely ridiculous science but it caught the imagination of the insane people who chose not the vaccine
I’ve heard people literally say this. Like, my life has some extra challenges (I’m AuDHD-PI twice-exceptional), but it’s definitely better than being blind, or deaf, or paralyzed, or dead at 3 or 13 (the ages my great-aunts were when they died of typhoid and diphtheria)! 🤨
That last one was so satifying to listen too
How do you deal with conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxers?
Make an EVEN MORE REDICULOUS pro-vaccine consipracy for them
Not so ridiculous.
The Russians are well known for spreading Misinformation, especially if it weakens or divides a Country in some way, shape, form or fashion.
It ia a primary tactic for them.
Pro-measles sounds a lot more accurate
Throw in some polio and meningitis too.
Taha Killer exactly!
Also whooping cough and tetanus. Oh, and pneumonia and meningitis. These things are definitely safer than all those vaccines! 🤪
14:30 using propaganda to counter propaganda...
DESTRUCTION 100
Edit: thanks for 100 likes
Edit 2: holy crap thanks so much for 250 likes
Edit 3: WHAT THE HECK thanks SO much for 300 likes
DESTRUCTION 100
LOL
DID I MENTION that I love skyrim
it reminds me of one post suggesting to do this with any conspiracy theorist. "the moon landing was faked!" "oh, you believe in the moon?"
more like speech 100 with the persuasion perk
The lazy smile from the story implied he had dealt with the situation before too, so it makes it all the better
the ultimate no u
okay, I have a great joke for this:
why was the anti-vaxx mom comforting her two years old?
because the kid was having a mid-life crisis!
LOL its funny because its true! LMAO
A anti-vax parent tried to sue a internet friend of mine,after he saved their son and explained that was their fault that their child almost died,the result was them having to pay 10.000 to my friend plus court cousts and their kid was taken from them.
I seriously doubt they took someones child for not vaccinating.
@@picklerick4760 It was not just per not vaccinating but as the kid almost died a investigation was fired and the parents were inept to have the kids.
@@majesticed9329 makes sense. Still would never get vaccinated or for that matter take anything thats known to cause adverse reactions.
@@picklerick4760 a lot of thing that are known to cause adverse reaction are necessary for survival
@@picklerick4760 Not getting vaccinated is known to cause adverse reactions.
That last one, 13:34, is absolute gold! I'd recommend doing that with all the Anti-Vax people. Blow their entire mind xD
Whatever gets a kid vaccinated counts as long as no physical force is used. The counter conspiracy theory was actually quite clever.
@@chaoscontroller316 his logic is sound, your reading comprehension is the problem here. he's saying not to physically force them to get a vaccine against their will.
i mean, im okay even if physical force is used against the parents.
@@diablo.the.cheater parents yes. Kids no. I should've been more clear😁.
Karen 2.0:*Starts a full, carefully organised and hand-picked from the finest anti-vaxx sites speech full of passion*
Attendant: But what if all this propaganda about vaccines is a creation of the Soviet and Chinese to weaken USA?
Karen 2.0: :0
I think she got those "speeches" from Facebook
I’m going to be using that one with antivaxxers from now on.
My aunt doesn't vaccinate her three children. I casually asked them about it and in these exact words the oldest said: Because mama doesn't want us to be poisoned.
I screaming internally.
"Vaccines cause autism"
I happen to know someone who went unvaccinated as a kid and was still diagnosed with autism. His anti-vax parents were so confused.
0:54 lol *Destroyed by facts and logic*
Factxz*
@@Wow-gd3vc we got an anti-vaxxer boys
Lol what a libtard
Be careful. There was a vaccine here in the Philippines called dengvaxia and it killed many children before our government discontinued distributing it. Please do your research about any vaccine you see, and check in with people who have used it before and see if they're healthy. If they are, then take the vaccine.
You can Google articles and news reports on the dengvaxia vaccine being discontinued because it killed over a hundred children here in the Philippines.
Lost an amazing friend to Meningitis. Went to his funeral and the church was filled with all the lives he had touched and improved for the better. There was not a composed face in the room, almost every adult was sobbing and trying to do so silently to avoid disrupting the ceremony. His biological family was there but he had a falling out with them years ago, so no one paid attention to them. In a way, I think we blamed them, that it was their fault his life had a timer counting down... and that it was only sheer luck he hadn't caught anything sooner.
L S So sorry to hear that sweetheart
i nearly died from meningitis when i was 6 months old so i ended up going deaf instead. reading all these horror stories people dying from meningitis scares me, i was lucky. even if i did die, i wouldn't remember my life at 6 months old.
well hello there random person on TH-cam totally deaf
My condolences
it's weird seeing the actual reddit posts and then a few days later seeing a video about it
Ikr
I like these better so I don’t have to deal with long ass threads lol
@@SpookyKay same tbh
Riley yup
I still find the sharpie story hilarious. “Hey doc lemme change the contract real quick to make you responsible for my moronic choice”
How do these parents escape vaccinating their kids? When I was in school- my parents had to provide my shot record with cuurent vaccinations, if not then I couldn't attend school
Home School?
Religious exemptions
I remember in school they’d have nurses come in and provide shots everyone had to get them
We had to queue up at school for the sugar with the polio vaccine
Either homeschooling or religious exemptions, most likely.
Some people just really shouldn’t have kids
I lost some good amount of brain cells listening to all these anti vax arguments.
15:05 I'm a doctor and since I've watched this I had 4 anti-vaxxers and I have tried it every time, worked twice
Nice.
This is just a thought by me but I would add something to it along the lines of
Do you also see that your Google searches and Facebook could also all be fake as you claim medical research to be?
The last doctor is a genius!
Me: Mom? Why don't I have cousins?
Mom: Your aunt is an anti-vaxxer that's why
Anti-vax mum: "My kids don't need no nasty vax--"
*loud banging on door*
A plethora of germs and diseases: "LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR, BOYS!"
Eric Andre:: *LET ME IN! LET ME IIIIIIIINNN!*
Russia:*whispers to China* "they're on to us commrad".
Most of these cases need to involve the following “then I took off my belt and beat the parent with it”
I actually wanna hear that now. I'm pretty sure someone somewhere did it but I'd like to hear that.
As someone who’s on the spectrum, but who also has a fear of needles, it triggers me when someone blames ASD on vacations... I might have an anxiety attack getting my vacations, but I’ll calm down eventually.... I’d prefer the anxiety attack to whooping cough, anyway!
I love that episode of family guy. I 100% agree with that.
Same.
That episode was "Livin' on a Prayer" and they've actually handled it really well
I had a reaction to a vaccine that almost killed me, but I’m still pro vaccine. What happened to me is extremely rare.
I’m a proud anti-vaccine mom and I still have my 5 beautiful children
Edit: 4 wonderful kids
Edit 2: 2 children
Edit 3: One living houseplant
Edit 4: I live alone now and go to anti vaccination marches- but hey at least I’m not getting autism from vaccinations!
Ralsei with a gun you bet your ass not
Wait, if you’re an ant vaxxer, do you vaccine your ants?
Guess what. they are going to die in any year. good luck.
Billy Joe lol thanks, I changed it. These essential oils must be doing something with my mind!
walf.mp4 as a matter of fact all my children have died. Those stupid doctors probably vaccinated my kids when I wasn’t looking.
The medical student breaking it down for the parents is my favorite anti-vax response yet. Actually helped people understand and get past the common misconceptions
It helped that those parents were willing to listen to him.
It's a great story and it's good to know that there are plenty of folk who are actually willing to listen if you explain things patiently. But most of the hate against anti-vaxxers isn't against those kind of parents with legitimate concerns who can be persuaded if you just lay out the facts and lend a sympathetic ear. The hate is for those who don't base their belief on facts or logic, they've decided that vaccines are evil and will burn down the hospital before they admit they're wrong.
Both groups exist and it's definitely unfortunate that the more reasonable ones often end up as collateral damage as people get sick and tired of dealing with the extremists.
14:30 Oh now this, this is beautiful
Is that a Gravity Falls reference
@@grizzilygiant7495 yes, and I am not ashamed of that
Guy on internet Good
@@cakerberg1735 No need to not be ashamed we are all proud of you for this
Woah 3yr old and heart rate of 200?? I ate extremely hot hot food and got a stomach ache and had to go to hospital.. My heart rate was over 100+ and that was bad according to doctors.. I couldn't leave until it went down Im in my 20s poor kid.
KAREN uses CONSPIRACY! It's not very effective...
DOCTOR uses DEFLECT! It's super effective!
More like REFLECT. Bounced her own conspiracy logic back at her.
Anti Vax kid: **has autism without vaccines**
Anti Vax Mom: How'd this happen??
Idek anymore
I had Pertussis once, lmao I feel that kids pain
Anti Vaxx children: Exist
Measels: *whispering* It's free real estate.
What do you call it when a 3 year old unvaccinated child throws a temper tantrum?
Midlife crisis
That doctor who fired the mom and kid as patients is my spirit animal
In South Carolina, there are three vaccines that you are required by law to get before seventh grade or you can't return to public school. Only certain religious exceptions are allowed. State government covers the cost of the vaccines as well.
The samenis going to happen in Germany, and I hope the rest of the world will follow suit.
My mum had a kid about in February I’m 15 (I know age gap blah blah blah my mum is still only 37 so she’s still younger than other mums)
We used to take my little brother to a club for a song time thing where they all sing I usually wouldn’t go but one week my mum went and asked them “is every child here vaccinated????”
They responded with “no”
My mum then started asking should they really be allowed and all that to stay here
They replied with “it’s not a big deal they aren’t vaccinated but since the other kids are they aren’t actually causing any harm”
My mum then started arguing and when I get off school I usually end up coming back to the song time because it’s on my way home and my mum usually is leaving by that point
The place seemed oblivious to the fact that the measles shot and all that isn’t available until 12 months and that if one of these 5 year olds or something gets it they might be fine because it could be mild but they could give it to my brother
I heard them arguing and asked what’s going on
They said
“Your mum is starting an argument”
I asked
“For what”
They said
“Well some of the kids aren’t vaccinated--“
I just walked off grabbed my brother put him over my shoulder said
“Mum come on we won’t come back”
And just got into the car
I came back the next day when it was closed and painted
“They don’t vaccinate their kids here”
On the wall because what if my mum didn’t ask and then my brother got the measles because some fucker didn’t vaccinate their kids
If this did happen I would rip the parents arms off shove one down their throat and one up their ass and make them shake their own hands.
pro-vaccer-kid-9911-gangsta-x
Claudia Juarez I don’t think U understand why I did it
I didn’t do it because they annoyed me
I did it because I don’t want another family to take their child who is too young for their vaccines and not be aware that the others there aren’t vaccinated. I hate it when I hear stories of children getting whooping cough or the measles because another parent was too ignorant. And it wasn’t huge but it was big enough for people to see
My bad didn't make it past first line
@Claudia Juarez If the other party is anti vaxxer then you are in all the right to try to change them or kill them if its necessary, all for public security
I'm all for being wary of new medicines and asking your doctor "Why?". These people do that and completely ignore whatever they are told.
This just happened lmao, so last week was our high school founders day, we had two other high schools come to ours to celebrate (boys school). We had fun and played basketball and it was a cool chill day, this morning we found out one of the students in the boys school had measles, he was never vaccinated and his mother was anti vax and hated vaccines. He infected our school and we all got an email from our vice principal alerting us so now today people are freaking out and I had to call my mother to get a measles vaccination again, wish us luck I might die. Update will come soon
No worries, you're vaccinated so you'll be fine right?
@@gorkyd7912 yup but our teachers have told us to ask our parents to vaccinate us again in case
@@gorkyd7912 vaccines are not perfect protection, for them to work at 100% they need that everyone is vaccinated, once someone gets the illness that makes the illness stronger and more likely to mutate and make the vaccine useless, that is the reason vaccines need to be mandatory except for ppl with allergy
@@diablo.the.cheater That is wrong on a basic level. Vaccines simply help prepare a person's immune systems for a particular disease. So even if we all were 100% vaccinated, everyone with dysfunctional immune systems are still vulnerable to the disease. Therefore, don't keep pushing 100% vaccination like they actually cure diseases, vaccines do not replace people's immune systems. Getting too many vaccines all at once during early childhood development MAY cause unintended damages to the person's immune system that affect their ability to fight diseases later in life, making the entire population more vulnerable than they would have been with no vaccines at all.
@@gorkyd7912 um, getting the diseases back to back weakens immune systems, duh. Why do you think childhood mortality was so high before vaccines? You might survive measles, then mumps, then pertussis, then small pox, then polio comes along and BOOM dead.
A teacher in my school Mr Pritchard starts getting triggered if you say antivax is good , he teaches science its amazing to see his head turn same colour as his hair ( ginger )
In this day and age that last one might be true...moral of the story, don't trust social media over people who's job it is to research on these subjects.
Their job is to give you vaccines, actually.
@@gorkyd7912 To save your life from preventable diseases, yes.
@@filipwolffs Tetanus kills 1 or 2 per year maybe. Obesity kills 300,000 per year. Yet doctors are gods for telling you to get a TDAP booster every time you get a scrape but they don't even bother giving basic dietary recommendations.
@@gorkyd7912 I'm not about to worship them, but I do listen to the guy who's spent years studying on how to keep people alive.
That aside, yes obesity is an issue and yes doctors could put more emphasis on it but that doesn't mean that they should stop warning people about other health issues. it's not a zero sum game where they can only warn you about one thing.
Although from what I gather a lot of doctors do try to tell people to eat less and work out more and they get flat out ignored because people are awful at changing their lifestyle, especially if it requires effort on their part. They'd rather keep doing what they've always done and depend on doctors to keep them alive when it inevitably goes wrong.
@@filipwolffs If you're a new parent you may not know anything about raising children, there's no license or user manual. So you're talking to the pediatrician (because you're referred to them by the hospital where the child was born) and they're giving the child vaccines at birth, 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 12 months, and 15 months while strictly warning parents who may question/refuse that if they don't get these vaccines the child could die of measles, mumps, hepatitis, flu, meningitis, chicken pocks etc. So not, counting well-checks, you'll see the pediatrician at least 6 times in the first 2 years of the child's life and be warned about all these issues. You would think in that time if doctors actually cared about preventable diseases they would be able to give parents similarly urgent warnings about poor diet since obesity kills exponentially more people than every vaccine-prevented disease combined, weakens immune systems so these preventable diseases are more deadly, 1.5 million people are diagnosed with diabetes every year, and the eating habits passed on to children can shape their diet for the rest of their lives. All I'm saying is don't blame parents for ignoring the risk of preventable diseases when pretty much every pediatrician in the country does the same thing even though it's supposedly their job.
7:13 you mean....literally herself [or any anti vaxxer, for that matter] at that very moment, and yet she wasn't able to identify the pure essence of hypocrisy....
Not getting your kid vaccinated should be considered neglect
House MD said it best "little baby coffins, they come in fire engine red"
I want a serious reddit about anti-vaccers who’s kids were lost to preventable diseases and what they went though. It’ll be interesting to see their perspectives after the fact
My mother who is a retired]State worker. Long and short of what she did, she helped to plan the care and living arrangements, ether in state run group homes or with family's of the Mentally/Physical disabled people in our county.
Please keep in mind these women (later men) where children in the 40s 50's 60's when the vaccines where new, and the recommended schedule for them was still "Wing it for how young, and guess work on how close together.". She read countless reports from formerly perfectly healthy nuro-normal children who where later put in to state care: "Retardation Brought on From High Fever Following Vaccination in Early Childhood.".
That risk was the biggest concern for my mom as she always got a fevers after her shots, She worried about me getting them fearing the MMR schedule in the late 80's could produce that high risk fever. She talked with and "Karen-ed" My Doc in to doing them on a much more spread out time table. I am not joking my mom Karen-ed before Karen-ing was a thing moms did.
I like the one where he convinced the parents to choose vaccines. It's refreshing to see that not all anti-vaxers are stupid, some are just misinformed.
I can relate to the 80-pound 14 year old. i had an anti-vaxx mom, who made me go through the Paleo Diet for two years. i couldn't eat bread, rice, sugar, potatoes, beans, corn, or milk. Nor anything with GMO's. i am built with a large (5'8 at the time in 6th grade, I'm 5'11 now in 9th), broad-shouldered body type, along with my ribs naturally poking out slightly, so when my diet couldn't keep up with my pubescent, large body, I lost maybe around 60 pounds (150~ to 98.5 by the time i moved o my dads house)
My dad worked labor a lot so he mad food with a lot of protein and fats, with the sudden change of diet my body reacted negatively, not to mention I was gaining weight, fast. I, being already depressed, became anorexic for about 7 months before I got help.
Though I was lucky not to get polio from being an anti-vaxx kid, although this lifestyle really fucked me over.
If you are, or have thoughts of starting this diet, please, please don't push this on your children. If its to reset their system, or its mandatory, please watch carefully, don't let you child get affected as negatively as me.
I feel for you. My mother was on a lot of crazy diets, including speed, in the 1960s. I was a child and she had me on the same crazy diet. Grapefruit and two slices of toast all day. All kinds of crazy things. Liquid protein up to 600 calories a day and no food. You name it. It is a huge part of the reason why I am fat now. My growing body never adapted metabolically, and now it hangs on to every calorie I put in my mouth.
I was dating an medical Intern. She told me this story. A loudly anti-Vaxxer Mom came in with her toddler. She was also separated from but still co-parenting with the Dad. My MD g/f was doing the basic pre-check before the Doctor she was consulting with arrived. The Mom stopped the g/f and started firmly stating not to ask if her child had her vaccinations or not. She went through the list...autism, big pharma, mercury in medicine.....g/f said that she looked very confused but said nothing. Mom stopped her tirade to ask why g/f looked so confused. She told me later that she told the Mom that she needed to talk to the consulting Doctor. Then the senior Doctor arrived and checked the child’s charts. The Doctor was pleased and surprised. She then praised the Mom. The Mom asked why? The Doctor said because the Mom had changed her mind and that her daughter had gotten all her vaccinations. It turns out that the Dad, during one of his custody’s periods, had taken the toddler to the Clinic and made sure all her shots were up to date. The Mom went ballistic asking how dare we do such a thing. The Doctor pointed out that the Dad was listed as the parent and the Clinic had thought that the couple had changed their ant-vaccinations decision.
I actually wasn’t vaccinated, my parents aren’t anti vaxers (my mum is a Doctor) I just have a severe allergy to vaccines or any injections (my allergist said it was something they use to bind them.) I’ve actually been completely fine so far but it’s always been a big concern for my family that I could be seriously ill and there’s very little that can be done. So, if anyone watching this video is unsure if they think their child should be vaccinated (or know someone who is) please do! It’s so important! If you are fortunate to be have the opportunity for your child to be vaccinated then DO. IT
I know this is old but that's an excellent reason on why you're not vaccinated. But also why being vaccinated is important to other who can. You depend on herd immunity.
Selena Lulamoon this!
I actually went anti-vax for a couple months when I was 10, because I was scared straight by vaccines. Not because I was worried what was in them, just because they hurt. Man, I was stupid.
6:07 Even the MD who wrote the book recommending "delayed vaccination" admitted it was a stupid practice and only recommended it on the hope it would persuade anti-vax parents to vaccinate a little as opposed to not at all.
cyrad In the past, with early versions of vaccines, there were some problems with close spacing, so the concern is not illogical, just misinformed
6:05 When I was in high school, the health teacher/coach told us about this method (giving vaccines over a period of time). I look back at it with horror because I wonder if he was anti vax and was pushing his narritive onto impressionable students.
Thankfully, my parents had no problem as turning me in as a pincushion.
Thanks mom.
That last one is just the best. That doctor is a Magnificent Bastard using his powers for good instead of evil. If I ever run into an argument with someone like that I'm going to drop that bomb on them.
3 years old.....
~HMMMMMMMMMM~
Kid in my pen pal's class had an anti-vaxx mom. My pen pal said that every year for Christmas, he would wish for vaccination. His mom would refuse. He later died of rubella that he could have prevented with an MMR vaccine. Mom was charged with negligence, abuse, and man slaughter. #StopAntiVaxx
Wanna know something funny
My entire family
Is vaccinated
We are all healthy
So how are vaccines bad
I wanna see an anti vaxx
Respond to this lol
The conspiracy theory one was CRAZY.
Video about child suffering
*happy music plays*
My mom was born in 1952, which is the same year as the worst Polio epidemic the US has ever seen. She was vaccinated for Smallpox as that was standard for babies at the time as part of the global eradication efforts but they didn't have a Polio vaccine or MMR vaccine invented yet. But she and her sister who shared a bedroom contracted both Measles and Scarlet Fever at the same time. She also got the Mumps at a different time. She said she doesn't remember having Chickenpox but I got it in Kindergarten (the vaccine was released shortly after, maybe
LoL that last story was BEAUTIFUL!!!
What drives me the craziest about the autism argument isn’t that autism is not cause by vaccines (though it drives me insane) it’s that these parents are saying they’d rather their child die then them having autism. In most cases, those with autism can live fairly normal lives if they receive support.
Just to let those who will argue with me know: I am not saying this as a google psychologist with 2 hours of research. I’m saying this as an autistic woman with a bachelors in psychology and who is started grad school next month to earn her masters in social work. I️ actually enjoy my autism because it lets me see the world in a different way than neurotypicals. Yes, I️ struggle with social interacting and social norms but honestly I️ wouldn’t change a thing.
doctor : you should give your kids vaccines, they could die without them
mum : no
kid : **dies because they didn't get vaccines*
*
mum : **surprised pikachu face**
15:10 Amazing! Counter conspiracy theory.
Anti-vaxx kid :*exists*
Measles mumps and rubella: get nae nae'ed
15:00 There is a reason Measles broke out in Disneyland. Because the foreign agent wasn’t just looking for a location with a high number of younger targets who didn’t get vaccines, but also because he wanted to go on vacation too.
That last one was definitely unethical and likely illegal...
but DAMN was it satisfying.
How in any way was it illegal? He just convinced someone that they are wrong
@@datman879 - That's why I said "likely," as in "a good chance, but not definite." There may not be a specific law, but I'm sure there are rules in place that prevents medical physicians from blatantly lying to a patient about their medical care to convince them to make a decision that they otherwise wouldn't. Which, by the way, was exactly what the doctor did since I'm fairly sure the whole "foreign government body spreading lies to weak U.S.'s collective health" bit was completely pulled out of his ass.
Now, mind you, it was a WHITE LIE, which was ment to help the kid and their peers and he is awesome for it. However, don't think that the medical board will really care if this was brought to them.
TheScorpion0081 he didn’t lie at all. He suggested another possibility of which information was true and which was false. The doctor isn’t lying because he never said he believed either side. He is simply making her consider another possibility. No one would ever get in trouble for helping someone see both sides
@@datman879 Well of course he wasn't going to say whether he believes it or not. The goal was for the Karen to believe in that misinformation or to doubt what she already knew, which was questionable to begin with bu the point stands. The willing spread of fabricated information, even with good intentions, is a lie.
And yes, he could get in trouble for that. Morally, he shouldn't because his intentions are good, but think about this from a medical professionals POV. This lady did not believe that vaccines was distributed to help people, rather to hurt, and doesn't trust the TRAINED PROFESSIONALS to inform her otherwise on that and likely other matters of health. What if, hypothetically, in her panicked frenzy to get her child vaccinated, he has an adverse reaction to the vaccines (as extreme rare as that is). Not only does that confirm her irrational biases, but it also shatters any further trust in those of the field as now her and all the people she will likely online will have even more evidence to support their claims, thus putting the already at risk children in more danger. Fear is a powerful motive, but irrelevant fear is dangerous. It's the whole reason we have anti-vaxxers in the first place.
Any doctor worthy of the title wants their patients to trust them and to be informed with proven data so they can better take care of them self, their fellow man, and their children. Her decision to vaccinate was not made by facts, but rather that same fear that made her decide not to vax to begin with, which comes with it's own risks.
I may be inflating this, but my point is the doctor-patient relationship is built on the trust that any information exchanged is given with integrity and good faith so that the patient can receive the the best care and maintain their health with proven knowledge and medicine. Let me make clear, I acknowledge that he said that to help the child, no one can say otherwise. But he risked that doctor-patient relationship doing so and anything bad that happens because of it could cost him his job and license because doctors wants to maintain that trust.
TheScorpion0081 but he never LIED. He said “have you considered”. Sure it’s misleading, but in no way he lied. Lying would be him saying that it IS propaganda to weaken the US. Sure he suggested to that claim, but he never actually did. And to some degree anti vaccine “evidence” and articles could very well be propaganda by foreign countries. She was mislead, but he mislead her into doing something that would benefit her and others around her. The chances of it being illegal to convince their patients that vaccines are good by using the patients own logic is extremely low.
Itt's stories like this that makes me think child vaccination shouldn't be the parent's choice. It REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY shouldn't.
It should be the kids choice lol
"Oh yeah we as parents DON'T want to get rabies. But the kids can fend for themselves"
I managed to convince one antivaxx mom to get her kids vaccinations by saying “I love your kids, and babysitting them. However, my own immune system is horribly compromised from a chronic condition. If your kids were to catch a disease that has a vaccine, like chicken pox, and then I get sick from it... well, I just can’t watch your kids anymore. I’m so sorry.”
Bonus is that I’m the only responsible babysitter in the area. The kids are all vaccinated and haven’t missed any school or fun events. I still get Sick
Never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
That last one got me cracking up
When I deal with Anti-vaxx people I happily tell them how grateful the Coffin & Funerary Practices appreciate their upcoming business.
That last docter did a move I've actually seen a lot. I'm not studying human medicine, but its a classic.
If someone presents you with a conspiracy theory, you just shoot them down with something even crazier.
For example.
"They faked the moon landing!"
"You believe in the moon?"
It hilarious to watch the gears grind to a halt for a second before revving up again with the new conspiracy as fuel
The last one blew my mind. It was a masterpiece.
In Germany, we have a law in the making that will make it mandatory for children to be vaccinated to be able to attend kindergarten/school. And since school is obligatory (no homeschooling here) - well, most children will get vaccinated. For now, it's "only" about measles which have been on the rise, but its a start. The law could be in effect as early as spring of 2020.
That last story was the best! That cracked me up! XD
The last physician has one hell of a sly tongue. Bravo.
Anti-vaxx parents: "Ew those vaccines will make my child sick!"
Child dying from the common cold: "Am I a joke to you?"
Because so many antivaxx kids die from the cold...
13:38 "Hold my drink good apprentice, let me show how things are done"
Holy shit doctor in the last story is a mad genius with a volcano lair.
The last one was the best thing ever 😂
Recently I asked my Mother (I am now 35) if I got my Measles shots as a kid.
She told me I got a MMR (Measles, Mumps, and R something). She did confess one thing though.
After I got the shot, I got a mild fever the next day. (I was about 9 months old).
The day after when she entered my room, I deliberately looked away and avoided eye contact.
She does not know if this was coincidence, but only after the shot did I show clear Autistic tendencies.
😓Dang. I did not know this.
I am an adult living alone...but I don’t attach well to people and have no friend outside of work.
That said, I rather be Autistic then dead.
It’s also possible I had a bad reaction to the vaccine since my allergies can be a bit weird sometimes.
If I wear anything besides pure gold, silver, or stainless steel I get rashes from Hell!
🤷♀️Maybe I reacted badly to the traces of Mercury preservative they had back then.
😅I survived having Chicken Pox 2x (yea, it can happen) and pneumonia the same year.
I get a Flu shot every other year just to be safe and I plan to get the Shingles Shot when I hit 40 just to be safe!!!!
Children with autism typically begin to show symptoms before age 3,they can seem to be developing normally and then show symptoms suddenly,your case was just a coincidence.
Mild sicknesses after a vaccine is just your immune system reacting and is relatively normal.
You avoiding eye contact was just because you were angry at her,it's normal for children to get angry at their parents after a vaccine because they don't know why they're getting it,they just know they got hurt at some place their parents brought them to.
That "study" that claims autism is caused by vaccines has been disproven,so vaccines causing autism is not possible.
My ears also get rashes if I wear anything but gold,silver or stainless steel.I even got rashes from the plastic medical earrings that are supposed to be completely harmless.
But anyways,hope I cleared things up for you!
Babanbo-sama
Mom is pretty sure (hopes) it was coincidence.
Seeing how sick I was as a kid....better slightly Autistic then dead!!!
🤷♀️Probably coincidence.
I am personally pro vaccine.
That said, if a Chicken Pox outbreak occurs, I will probably be fine!😅
autism is genetic, saying a vax can cause autism is like saying a vax can change your skin color, make you grow and extra finger or change your hair color, is is not a probability it is literally impossible for anything external or internal to give you autism, it is something you are born whit
@@diablo.the.cheater
Well, neither families have known autism.
Mom thinks what may of affected my brain a tiny bit was an incident that occurred before she knew she was pregnant.
Apparently she fell into some poison ivy, and had a bad reaction. Doctors loaded her up with steroids.
She thinks maybe the steroids had a tiny affect on my developing cells.
I am high functioning, but don’t connect well with people. I am smart……but no one shares my interests.
After much thought, I decided I am not fit for marriage and will stay single till death.
No kids, no intimacy, no nothing.
It’s better this way.
@@_nameful7066
Well, my Mom “confessed” before she knew she was pregnant, that she fell into a patch of poison ivy on a hike.
Doctors gave her tons of steroids to counter the effects.
She theorizes that maybe her immune system reaction, combined with the steroids, may of affected my brain a tiny bit.
🤷♀️ Who knows.
*Counters conspiracy theory with a conspiracy theory*
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