Im always amazed with how big and heavy the BAR was that the Marines looked at my Grandfather who was all of 5'8" maybe 130 pounds and thought, make this 17 yo kid a BAR gunner.
That's how it is though even these days. Am 5'1" and 120 pounds and they made me a M249 gunner for the squad. They just always make the little people carry the big guns
Canadian here: You want three layers. First layer, is something thin and light. This will help regulate the temperature at your skin which can prevent excessive sweating and will wick sweat away and let it easily evaporate. This is a serious issue if you're doing heavy physical labor, because in the intense cold you CAN NOT remove your layers. Second layer is your heavy thermal layer, ideally it's made of a modern composite fiber that is breathable. If not then any thick fabric attire will do like sweaters. Wool/fleece is preferable over normal polyester. Ideally the top will include a hood. This layer you can double up for extreme cold. Third layer is your weather layer, and it needs two important features: it must be waterproof and windproof, with an integrated hood and a length that goes below the waist. If it's made of modern composite materials like Goretex then that's even better as this will help keep all the layers from getting soaked with the water your skin naturally loses even when you're not sweating. I did a winter night hike in Algonquin Park in Ontario, it hit -40C without wind. I had modern cold weather attire with these three layers, with the addition of a wool balaclava and -40C rated boots and gloves. Other than feeling the cold start to seep into my toes and fingers if I stopped moving, I was perfectly comfortable. It was an incredible experience, the sky was so clear when it's that cold and still and the stars were so bright. EDIT: recommended cotton when I meant wool/fleece.
@@Synthmilk breathable hmm, yeah probably more breathable than gore tex xD if you plan on doing nothin physicaly demanding yea, you could go with cotton, but polyester is what you need to survive if you are climbing od skiing
Obviously cotton is not a good choice. It gets wet and stays wet. Wool or fleece for mid layer. Wool or technical underwear for base layer. Breathable Shell clothing (wind and rain resistent) for outer layer. Greetings from norway
I've got it, the real reason the 417 mags are bigger is because they knew one day someone would want to run a BAR, so they made their mags larger so that the mag pouches would fit BAR mags. Those clever Germans always thinking ahead
@@personalgoogleaccount9694 Also "I can't believe it's not Mauser" aka "legally distinct to avoid getting seized by allied or "allied" powers" aka Heckler and Koch, would have reverse engineered a lot of BARs. They probably kept the schematics with them, along with every other blueprint they managed to copy, all the way to Spain, and back to Germany. Even if they didn't commercialize it, focusing as they did on roller delayed blowback, they certainly kept a good understanding of the technologies involved.
I am so obsessed with the HCAR. Look at those stunning dimensions, the reinforcements on the upper. The furniture and cooling. It's so timeless and yet equally modern.
I don’t have any problem whatsoever with the HCAR running 30.06! In fact it has amazed me that we haven’t gone back to it! It is hard hitting and reliable! Great job!
Why would we go back? The only reason it stuck around as long as it did was because we had so much leftover in the interwar period and all our machine guns already used it. Whether it was a good move or not, the cartridge that would become 7.62 NATO was essentially a shortened version of the M2 Ball ammo used in the M1 Garand. The 7.62 NATO (both M59 and M80) operates at a higher pressure than the M2 Ball ammo but delivers a similar weight bullet at about the same 2800fps velocity. One of the big complaints with the .30-06 is that it is a heavy recoiling powerful round, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to so much effort creating a shorter case and cartridge, only to have it recoil just as hard. About the only thing they gained was a weight savings from the cases being 12mm shorter, and the rifles and machine guns are easier to make and work with because they don't have to deal with such a long case. It's not a surprise that less than 10 years later, the .223 took its place as the standard infantry round.
Too much for an individual issue rifle, weight being the problem. But even this would make more sense than the 6.8×51mm craziness they came up with now.
@@DriveCarToBar "it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to so much effort creating a shorter case and cartridge, only to have it recoil just as hard." They did it again with .277 so
Just a thought I had, being reminded of the ice performance of the HCAR. There really should be a video on winter warfare on how to avoid the worry of ice. Having served as a Canuck we had our winter SOPs. Going over those for a "How to survive" episode would be useful.
Current procedure from what I remember from Basic Winter warfare is every day, move the working parts (Cock the action, dry fire etc), especially the safety and magazine release, as those are prone to freezing. In really extreme temperatures, avoid using CLP in favour of graphite. My course was in -25 degree Celcius blizzards in CFB Petawawa, and I found our issued CLP made the parts far less likely to freeze up entirely, even after being outdoors for 2 weeks straight.
I am the person that actually assembles HCARs at OOW and I have a theory about why it froze up. We grease the internals of the firing mechanism and that grease is probably not rated for that low of temp.
My wife bought me an HCAR as a retirement present about 7 years ago. I love it. One of the first things I did was attack that front hand guard with a sanding block. Turned it from a flesh grater into a comfortable grippy hand guard. The flat sanding lock lot me really control the sanding and make sure I removed a uniform amount of material.
I figured I'll always be wearing some kind of glove anyway so the grip doesn't bother me much. I just wish OOW would pump out more magazines for the damn thing
@@captaintimcurry1713 100% agree on the magazine issue. I'm sure you know you can use the heritage magazines, but you do lose the last shot hold open feature. I usually only use gloves when shooting heavy recoil handguns so that hand guard was a definite issue for me. I really don't like doing surgery on firearms, so I made sure I was very careful in getting all the texturing at a consistent height.
@@ReanuKeevesAus I highly recommend retirement to you also, brother! I would definitely get an HCAR if you are a fan of the BAR, which I have been since childhood. Otherwise, you might want to pass, just given the expense. Sounds like you are a fan and that it has a sentimental aspect for you. Ohio Ordnance Works (OOW) put it in a lot of effort to lighten the rifle including use of non-metallics and the shorter dimpled barrel, but they also did additional machining on the receiver to lighten it where possible. The M1918A2 weighed about 18.5 lbs. and the HCAR weighs about 11.75 lbs. which is quite a bit less but still heavy. I love the rifle. It's super reliable, robust, extremely well made, accurate, and I am a big believer in the 30-06 round. It also has very little kick, compared to a 30-06 deer rifle due to it's weight. I have fired about 1,000 rounds through it with no issues (factory ammo) using OOW and heritage magazines. The picatinny is great and I have used both reflex sights and a scope on it to great effect. I wound up leaving a variable power Leupold scope on it because I don't see using it for close-up work and my eyes need the help. It can still reach out there with the 16" barrel. The adjustable stock is a big plus and you can use any number of aftermarket AR stocks on it. I have not put a light on it just to keep weight off the front end and, as I said, I don't see using it for clearing rooms (maybe shooting through walls to destroy what's in the room). I think a must-have is a good sling and, in spite of Garand Thumb's expert opinion, a good bipod. I put a Magpul MS1 QDM sling and an Atlas PSR bipod (I am a big fan of the Atlas bipods, but a good old Harris would do fine). You can certainly forego an optic and just put some AR-type iron sights on the picatinny which is what I did when I first got it until you decide if you even need or want an optic on it. It is a unique firearm that puts a modern spin on an absolute classic and makes it better in the process. I love just pulling it out of the safe and looking at it, much less having the pleasure of shooting it. You are not likely to see another one at the range and it is a real head-turner. I like having some unique guns in my collection. Another way to commemorate your service and that of your Grandpa's at much less expense, might be with a Model 1903A3, the WWII iteration of the Springfield Model 1903. It is a bolt-action rifle with a Mauser action and an internal 6-round 30-06 magazine. The 30-06 was actually created for the Model 1903 rifle. The A3 has a windage and elevation adjustable rear peep-sight located at the rear of the receiver which was a great improvement over the original tangent sight located at the rear of the barrel. It saw widespread use with the US military in the European and Pacific theatres of WWII and beyond (you probably know all of this). They are widely available in excellent condition, accurate, and a pleasure to shoot. I have a few of them and they are actually my favorite rifles. I wish you all the best and am sure you would be well-pleased with an HCAR.
It's literally just an intro. It's literally cringe AF when you realize it's a grown man kitted up by himself on a range with a cameraman. He literally is playing dress up. You literally don't understand the word literally.
Despite the powerful recoil of 30-06 bullets, the muzzle moves less. It's a very controllable gun. That's great. It seems to have more control than the M14 and G3.
my first moose hunting rifle was a semi auto rem 742 in 30-06 and recoil is light enough that i could shoot it when i was 11 and it weighs 1/3 of the weight of that thing, its not always about weight but also about bolt/piston mass and excess gas used to operate it.🙃
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 In this context he's referring to how much the recoil will affect the ability to deliver rapid and accurate follow up shots at ranges out to 300 yards or more. Such as what may be encountered in a combat situation. Not that the recoil is painful or unmanageable.
My Great Uncle carried a BAR with the 17th Airborne in WW2. Makes my feel fortunate for how much the M4 weighs. Couldn't imagine carrying that all over Europe.
I am an RN, and one of my favorite Patients is a gentleman who also served with the 17th. SCIONS Right? Did your uncles CO die in a paraglider crash? Was he like 6'5? I heard many stories about the 17th. Their unit patch was circular, black with an eagles claw in gold in the center correct? If your uncle is still alive, I am sure Mr Herrera would love to talk to him.
@@jeremynicholson2138 Unfortunately, he passed a couple years ago. He wasn't the biggest fan of talking about to war experience, so I don't know all of the details.
Right? I mean who would wanna feed it 308 caliber 150 grain bullets for 70 cents a round when you can feed it marginally faster 308 caliber 150 grain bullets for $1.20 a round?
The BAR was and still is an iconic and super cool rifle. Not going to lie the HCAR looks pretty sweet in its own right, would love to be able to try one out and see how it feels and shoots!
It seems the BAR in non US service was more likely to be seen for what it is, a light mchine gun. The Swedish BAR's, Belgian, etc. are very interesting. America for some reason stuck with the WWI theoriesof its use.
I wonder if it could double as a sniper rifle too. If it's accurate enough (and I don't see why it wouldn't be), it should be able to do it no problem.
Modernizing the BAR was something that should have been done in the 30s the way other countries modded and improved the platform. I've thought about modernizing my Garand but, nah, hard to improve perfection.
@Satin don't worry grand papi garand still gets to rest, u see the m1a is grandson garand, and the .30-06 m1a is his not yet existent badass younger brother, they're doing the fighting, not grandpa silly. You see grandpa can only eat 8 rounds at a time, but his new grandson is a fat fuck and takes box mags, so there's no tellin how many round he can hold
No. The BAR was heavy and awkward to carry and with a 20 round magazine just didn't work. Add more ammo, it gets even heavier. Plus, it was designed for clearing trenches.
@@willthorson4543 the HCAR cut a lot of the weight by lightening the receiver and dimpling and shortening the barrel, but it's still a fair bit heavier than the m14. It still reportedly very controllable by way if an adjustable gas plug, and an inprived recoil buffer.
My grandpa God rest his soul lugged a BAR in Korea and had nothing but great things to say about his weapon. He would have gotten a big kick out of this. Great video.
I keep running into environment cult left wingers that hate oil so much they want to chop the trees down to try to save the environment. I have to keep breaking it to them that chopping trees down to fight big oil doesn't work nor save the environment.
Nicely done. I bought one of the first run of 250 on the HCAR. Yes, it was expensive, but the only drawback for me was that, just a few weeks later, Ohio Ordnance Works brought out their prototype of the Colt-licensed, WWI spec 1918 BAR in blued finish, with its magnificent Italian made leather case. I couldn't justify both, and the 1918 was even more expensive. Had I waited just a little longer, I'd have known that the 1918 was coming and bought that instead. But that's life. Other than that, no complaints about the HCAR. It's a magnificent rifle and the folks at OOW are great to work with, from the owner on down. I've done much business with them over the past 15 years or so and look forward to seeing them next month at SHOT.
@@WayStedYou My HCAR order included a custom serial number, something offered only on those first 250 rifles. It was too late at that point to make a change. And I am quite happy with the HCAR. I just really liked the 1918 too, with the classic WWI look.
@@NOTanOPERATOR208 Perhaps, but they were works of art as well as fine craft. I'd have paid the tab had I not already been committed to well over half that amount already.
I remember when they started making this... they were getting a buncha feedback off the guys on the older forums. It was really cool to see the project come together. The prototypes were wild.
Can't imagine why I've passed this channel so often. It was my loss. I love military rifles, military surplus and anything concerning our awesome military service personnel. Great video. The 30 - 06 is the limit as far as recoil for my personal tastes. I certainly can understand someone copying the iconic BAR and any weapon by the great John Browning. Thanks for sharing. Here's a like and sub.
My stepdad was a USMC BAR Gunner 45-48 drafted near the end of the war. Standing 5'7 150lbs he said it was all he could do to let the thing not knock him over.
@@OUTDOOR_SCALE_MODELS - Did your stepdad ever mention firing the BAR from the hip? Even slung at hip height? I'm asking because that's how John Browning originally designed the weapon to be used, slung at waist height. They called it "walking fire" in those days late in WWI, and the BAR was designed to clear trenches and break the deadlock of stalemated trench warfare. Of course, the experience of most combat soldiers is if there is a lot of lead in the air the last thing you want to do is stand up. That's when the bipod comes into play...
Been following this rifle for a few years now, such a nice rig, I just can't get past the $7k price tag and $100 mags to run $0.80/rd range days on a proprietary platform. Would love to run the 20in version of this thing, but the costs are unfortunately just untenable. It is extremely impressive how well they managed the recoil of the 30/06 though.
@@fakecubed I've seen a few ar's chambered in it as well as 7mm. its unfortunate that 7.6254R seems to be incompatible with the platform but c'est la vie
Yeah, amazing gun. The price tag is up there but it's worth it. I was amazingly lucky to shoot this gun when it was just a prototype a number of years ago.
The HCAR can multitask and be an amazing option to DMR in select Fire. That's what the M14 was supposed to do before it got blown away by polymer and add ons. You can future any old platform. You can't build a new one without the future looking you dead in the face.
What's funny... the M14 is considered obsolete and the caliber too big and heavy. Yet the FAL G3 used the 308, with full auto and no complaints during the African Rhodesian war. Look how successful they were with the 308.
@@vtrbswarmachine Ya text sometimes doesn't express mind to sentence to read text. Ya I should have said the same, like what you wrote and was adding to the success of the 308 during the time when 556 was being promoted. Plus they say the wood will warp but the M1 Garand was used in four winter seasons and the pacific theater. My family has first hand accounts in the Pacific and I asked about the wood warping and was told a non issue for the major extent.
@@anthonylimjoco5958funny thing is the US now moving back to full powered rounds with .277 Fury/6.8×51mm with the XM7/MCX Spear. Personally I love rifles rounds and with the adoption of a battle rifle as the standard issued rifle, I'm looking forward to these rounds becoming cheaper when they are more wide spread.
Not going to lie if the Gundies have a cinematography award Micah needs this award it only keeps getting better and better. Mad props to this channel and The Thumb himself!!
Small history note to my fellow BAR junkies. During Bonnie and Clyde's rain of terror, it was thought he welded 2 mags together, but in reality, it was a few larger mags from the national guard armory they robbed. The army did experiment with larger than 20 round mags, but it never took off.
@hunterbidensaidslesion1356 same here I have a BAR and took two mags and looked them over really good and I came to the conclusion if you tried you'd need alot more tools then he would have had. Cutting and welding ok, but making thr spring to work, you'd need a custom made spring.
@rg7stringplayer I've read it from a few different sources over the years and have seen photos of the original extended magazines. Now, on the collector market their super rare. Seems the army experimented through the 20s, and then some national guard units got them. It was mainly an experiment to see if the BAR could replace the Lewis gun in an AA roll. I've never seen any kind of belt set up with pouches for field use, only that they were used for AA positions.
@ Nate Jones - it is also known that certain mob figures had gun-smith work done to create one-off extended magazines for pistols like the M1911 45ACP. Baby Face Nelson had one with extended mags so he'd have to reload less-frequently in shoot-outs. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Clyde Barrow had similar work done to extend his BAR mags. I can't really see where he'd do that, because he was very concerned about keeping his BAR compact. He shortened the barrel so it would be easier to deploy from an automobile. Texas Ranger Frank Hamer and his men, the ones who finally took out Bonnie and Clyde in Louisiana in a carefully-staged ambush, used BARs among their weapons. I guess that's known as fighting fire with fire.
They say 30-06 is the best rifle to have in your closet because of how accessible the ammo is and because of how great the round is. I’m glad they finally make a modernized 30-06. Would love to see this in an AR-10 platform. Let’s not forget that the 30-06 caliber is what won WW2
Maybe. The US hasn't used .30-06 in 60+ years. Most of the US surplus .30-06 is long gone. There is some Korean made stuff kicking around that is corrosive. Every once in a great while, you come across some Greek surplus, but by-and-large, you're buying new commercial ammo. I'd say .308 has taken over that spot just because its still in common use and is relatively cheap for target ammo. And .30-06 won WW2? Odd, because the Russians used 7.62x54R
@@phoenix4ever367 .30-06 is just too long for a modern weapon system. It sits in kind of this awkward spot where it's not really any more powerful than it's contemporaries. It can be more powerful (so can 7.62x54R and 8mm Mauser) but you have to load it to higher pressure with heavier bullets. But then, if you're going to have such a long cartridge who's sole benefit is long range power, you might as well just use one of the many magnum cartridges out there.
Hey so I’m stuck between the 16 and 20 inch barrels, would you say theres a terrible loss in velocity and energy with the 16 inch compared to the 20? As I’ve just been told that it’s pointless to run .30-06 in a 16 inch barrel.
@@runtheshow6445 I wouldn't say it's pointless. The 16 " a stellar out to about 500 yards. The 20" is good for easily 1000 yards. If I had to pick one over the other I would probably go with the 20".
The army: “we’re looking for a new battle rifle.” The bloody, ghost of John Moses Browning kicking down the door, HCAR in hand: “I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!”
My first thought was, "this is cool, but who wants to carry around a 20lb rifle?" then I googled the total weight, under 12lbs. That is extraordinarily impressive compared to the original BAR. My 5.56 AK weighs almost 12lbs..
My 2nd rifle I bought was a 30.06 Bolt action Remington WW2 era cut down and sporterized, which made it lighter and with a snap. Had a 303 too the same way. Much more than the original.
This is one of those weapons you weren't thinking about, until you saw it and you were like "Oh yeah, wow.....why HAVEN'T we updated the BAR until now?" It is an amazing machine gun/rifle hybrid, grandfather shot those while he drilled at the rifle range in the reserves post-Korean War. Called it one of the coolest, smoothest, while simultaneously the most kick-in-the-a$$ rifle/machine gun he'd ever shot. He liked the Garand too, and the M1919 Browning MG.
I love seeing a local company on GT. I used to work for a calibration lab that calibrated everything from torque wrenches to pin sets for these guys. Seeing the attention they put into the equipment they use makes me believe the quality of product is second to none.
It's pretty cool that a gun designed for WWI and to be used in "walking fire" while walking (running...) across No Mans Land in France is still alive and getting modifications like this. Also it was John Browning's design to help win WWI for the allies makes it even more awesome. If only it didn't weigh so much, but that didn't stop the boys in WWII from kicking butt with it. Cool Rifle and glad someone had the interest to modernize it.
If you grabbed the real BAR as you did the HCAR after combat or during combat your would fry your hand for the barrel was clear on top. I was a Marine BARman and did love the weapon and yes I did remove the bipod, but only because it spun around making aiming more difficult on the move. I also removed the bugout handle for without the bipod that was not needed. The weapon had a gas port capable of being used to adjust the rate of fire in three positions. The BAR belt for magazines was fine if you had no other options. I used a gas mask bag to carry my Magazines for it held more magazines and was not in the way in various combat positions. One issue was if you rolled onto your back it was hard to get up with the standard mag belt. I carried the bag on my left side so it was out of harms way for ground contact. The original bar mags were a tad prone to damage so one had to be very careful to not get dents in them.
I never comment on videos, but that intro was insane in quality and style. Micah and Mike have outdone themselves. Thanks for the incredible video gents.
I have a Browning BAR Safari ll with Leupold 14.5 power scope chambered in 7 mm rem mag, it's 25 years old and a joy to shoot as it doesn't kick. It is a Hog killing machine, deer too. The Browning finish still looks new.
I can already imagine BSG putting this in Tarkov and one shot is enough to make you stare into the sky, don't even think about a second shot, that will break your spine. (next wipe, fix the recoil of EFT pls)
30-06 is a fantastic cartridge the first rifle I ever took a deer with was a 30-06 that deer dropped instantly and seeing the exit wound was a real eye opener for a 12-year-old 😳
30 cal, my dad, and several uncles trained and fought with it. My dads Army BCT book also shows them on the BAR range. Its about time a modern tactical rifle was designed and chambered in this legendary military round.
When I bought my first rifle in 1979, I chose a 30-08 because it was the most popular caliber and available at most every place that sold ammunition. That's no longer the case.
It was a pricey thing - the number I see repeated on websites is $319, which at the modern rate of inflation would be around $5,650. If you were working a job in an active industry like the motor trade in 1922, you would be making around $33 a week, approximately $585 in today's money. It'd be about the equivalent of ten week's wages for the average factory worker. All I'm saying is, for any time travellers from the 1920s reading these comments - seize the means of BAR production and distribute one to every American man, woman and child ASAP.
Even drug stores sold them ! But was the start of modern day “ g “ control just because a couple people “ abused “ them, sounds familiar, that safety thing term , best movie using it staring Steve McQueen as a sailor in China ( forgot the movie name, think it was the name of the boat
I'm usually hard pressed to find a new firearm that sparks my interest...but I think you've showcased one. I respect the BAR so this reimagined HCAR has me intrigued and I'm looking into purchasing one to test for myself. I personally like the weather you were in as winter warfare movies are my favorite movies...and some of the best weather to test a firearm. Great video and stay safe.
The hcar was always my favorite it took forever to unlock the weapons license to use for either team My least favorite part of prestigeing was losing the hcar for a while then having to unlock it all over again
@@mrdark9916. In my area it's hard to find 3006 in fmj. That's what I mean by most 3006 is soft point from Walmart to several gun shops They never hardly carry fmj.
@@JohnDoe-in9lc yeah for sure if you're talking about just local stores only I can relate to that. I tend to order ammo online, or there's a couple surplus stores in the area, I was just saying that they are readily available and not difficult to source
Pretty neat, but given that price point it's definitely not an average man's fighting rifle. I may be interested if it was 308, but I guess if you can afford $6,500 for a rifle, you can afford to shoot 30-06 by the dozen.
Handle the BAR myself and it really works best from the prone position. Shooting off the hip is doable but not recommended. If you want to stand up during an enemy contact situation, it might have a more than hazardous consequences to your head and upper torso. After handling the original BAR you get a preference for the BAR-D model. It was the predecessor to this remake model. I wish it had an interchangeable barrel with some kind of much bigger magazine. One thing though about the BAR it uses a round that can get you out to 1,500 yards all the time. Tried to shoot it in the standing and on full auto. And by the time the third round lit off, I was looking into the sky at approximately, 35 degrees angled above the horizon. The BAR is difficult to hit a target shooting in the standing shooting position. The M-14 is a much easier weapon to shoot in the standing position. And you could mount a scope. The older one you could not scope Mount anything. Unlike what I’ve seen into today’s broadcast you can actually mount something for day or night. I was waiting for the full auto Mag dump, what happened? Thank you, G.T. For being so good, at what you do. Aloha to you and your family. 🌺🌸🌴❤️🇺🇸
These things are so awesome. Every since they came out with them I have lusted after one. Fortunately / unfortunately they are at a price point where I would rather spend the money on 2-3 different firearms that are on my "must have" list - but eventually that list will be filled and perhaps I can swing purchasing an HCAR. What a fantastic weapon. 30-06 is still more than relevant than people think these days due to it's flexibility and availability. You can load everything from 110gn bullets at 3400fps to 225gn at 2500fps. I even still have some "Accelerator" ammo which was .22 caliber bullets with a sabot loaded into a 30-06 case. Not very accurate, but interesting.
The Colt Monitor is what the Army should’ve had instead of the BAR. The FBI proved its worth during prohibition. If fact the Colt Monitor is essentially the HCAR.✊🏻🇬🇧😊
The Army needed a proper SAW. The Monitor just isn’t a SAW. It’s very good for stopping lightly armored cars like bank robbers and moonshiners were running but it’s just not what the Army needed. The BAR A2 was a crappy SAW. What they needed was the FN Model D, which Colt had the rights to make
@@andyrihn1 You’re right with hindsight. The Colt Monitor was developed in the 1920s, the FN Browning variant was not until after the 2nd world war ( I think). The fact of the matter is they were both better than the BAR in WW2.
@@daz6637 the model D entered production in 1932. The same gun but without the quick detach barrel was produced by Colt since 1926 (Colt would make some with detachable barrels in 1942), FN since 1930, and under license by Poland since 1928
Finally a upgraded version of the famous classic automatic rifle, for the 30 caliber rifle round, and for someone who have a trigger time with the vintage BAR, I sure would love to have a trigger time with this rifle.
Not a nice round to go up against for sure. I would hate to be shot at with one of these. Truly an underrated cartridge no reason to hate on it when it SHREDS
Gnarly how you associate that with heavy bolt action hunting rifles fit for taking down elk , and this thing slings one of those as fast as you can pull the trigger . Absolutely based.
I love this thing, it's like it was yanked out of an alternate reality where the Colt Monitor was deemed the peak of small arms design, the US was doubly stubborn in their cartridge selection and NATO adopted a 7.62x63mm, but pretty much all other firearms development continued as usual.
Such a magnificent piece of equipment! My dreams of one day owning one have been tragically taken away from me. E cat no longer exists in this country! I am happy to be able to live vicariously through you. Thanks you bloody legend!
I met a very small man who was a WW 2 Vet. He told me all about the BAR & said he carried it during war. He said the Army assigned the mm to the smallest guys in each squad, to but, someone else carried the ammunition.
They really missed a trick by not calling it the Re-BAR.
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Lol😂 good one !!!
ROFL!
Lol the Re Bar was always The M14.
Wrong-you mean BM59
3 Germans walk into an HCAR doesn’t have the same ring to it.
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3 ATF agents walk into a HCAR
Fags call piles ? Speedbumps.
Bartender looks at them and says… Get the fuck out.
@@brye0331 wow no teutonic weapon engineering for you I guess 🤔
Im always amazed with how big and heavy the BAR was that the Marines looked at my Grandfather who was all of 5'8" maybe 130 pounds and thought, make this 17 yo kid a BAR gunner.
Carry 15% of his weight in just rifle😂
That's how it is though even these days. Am 5'1" and 120 pounds and they made me a M249 gunner for the squad. They just always make the little people carry the big guns
When the rifles were made of wood, the men were made of steel.
Bigger you are, the less you can hump for long periods of time... typically. The little wirey guys handle the extra weight better.
@@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo you could operate it in the trenches standing straight up that's why
Canadian here: You want three layers.
First layer, is something thin and light. This will help regulate the temperature at your skin which can prevent excessive sweating and will wick sweat away and let it easily evaporate. This is a serious issue if you're doing heavy physical labor, because in the intense cold you CAN NOT remove your layers.
Second layer is your heavy thermal layer, ideally it's made of a modern composite fiber that is breathable. If not then any thick fabric attire will do like sweaters. Wool/fleece is preferable over normal polyester. Ideally the top will include a hood. This layer you can double up for extreme cold.
Third layer is your weather layer, and it needs two important features: it must be waterproof and windproof, with an integrated hood and a length that goes below the waist. If it's made of modern composite materials like Goretex then that's even better as this will help keep all the layers from getting soaked with the water your skin naturally loses even when you're not sweating.
I did a winter night hike in Algonquin Park in Ontario, it hit -40C without wind. I had modern cold weather attire with these three layers, with the addition of a wool balaclava and -40C rated boots and gloves. Other than feeling the cold start to seep into my toes and fingers if I stopped moving, I was perfectly comfortable. It was an incredible experience, the sky was so clear when it's that cold and still and the stars were so bright.
EDIT: recommended cotton when I meant wool/fleece.
Cotton? xD Dude wtf are you talking about? You wear cotton in the cold if you have a deathwish.
@@martingjorgoski3426 cotton breathes, which is important for the thermal layer so it doesn't get soaked.
@@Synthmilk breathable hmm, yeah probably more breathable than gore tex xD if you plan on doing nothin physicaly demanding yea, you could go with cotton, but polyester is what you need to survive if you are climbing od skiing
Obviously cotton is not a good choice. It gets wet and stays wet. Wool or fleece for mid layer. Wool or technical underwear for base layer. Breathable Shell clothing (wind and rain resistent) for outer layer. Greetings from norway
@@martingjorgoski3426 my mistake, you are correct. For some reason I got cotton and fleece swapped in my head.
HCAR further shows that the BAR much better as a battle rifle rather than a Squad Automatic Weapon.
It's perfect as a squad automatic weapon, it just needs beltfed. Literally the M240
Yup. The BAR is best as you said
And a removable barrel which the Belgians did later in the BARs life I believe.
@@weasle2904 it cant be perfect if it needs to be changed
HCAR is the Doom Guy's "deer" rifle.
I've got it, the real reason the 417 mags are bigger is because they knew one day someone would want to run a BAR, so they made their mags larger so that the mag pouches would fit BAR mags. Those clever Germans always thinking ahead
I mean, having been in the receiving ends of those things for so long would give one a pretty good idea on now to run them 💀
@@personalgoogleaccount9694 Ja....
@@personalgoogleaccount9694 Also "I can't believe it's not Mauser" aka "legally distinct to avoid getting seized by allied or "allied" powers" aka Heckler and Koch, would have reverse engineered a lot of BARs. They probably kept the schematics with them, along with every other blueprint they managed to copy, all the way to Spain, and back to Germany. Even if they didn't commercialize it, focusing as they did on roller delayed blowback, they certainly kept a good understanding of the technologies involved.
@@torg2126 no
Yeah the blowback is below the barrel instead of above it, means the barrel pulls up less.
I am so obsessed with the HCAR.
Look at those stunning dimensions, the reinforcements on the upper. The furniture and cooling.
It's so timeless and yet equally modern.
It even has a watermark
@@RosaParksWasWyt wasn’t an AmPs reference but I welcome them. Let’s see Paul allens suppression rifle
The Slick: Truly, and such a Beast of a bullet-launcher! Tim at Tool Time Approved..."Huu-aah!
Super.
What I wouldn't do for one of those
I don’t have any problem whatsoever with the HCAR running 30.06! In fact it has amazed me that we haven’t gone back to it! It is hard hitting and reliable! Great job!
i suppose you could think of the .277 as a slightly smaller return to the full power cartridge as standard concept
Why would we go back? The only reason it stuck around as long as it did was because we had so much leftover in the interwar period and all our machine guns already used it. Whether it was a good move or not, the cartridge that would become 7.62 NATO was essentially a shortened version of the M2 Ball ammo used in the M1 Garand. The 7.62 NATO (both M59 and M80) operates at a higher pressure than the M2 Ball ammo but delivers a similar weight bullet at about the same 2800fps velocity. One of the big complaints with the .30-06 is that it is a heavy recoiling powerful round, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to so much effort creating a shorter case and cartridge, only to have it recoil just as hard. About the only thing they gained was a weight savings from the cases being 12mm shorter, and the rifles and machine guns are easier to make and work with because they don't have to deal with such a long case. It's not a surprise that less than 10 years later, the .223 took its place as the standard infantry round.
Too much for an individual issue rifle, weight being the problem. But even this would make more sense than the 6.8×51mm craziness they came up with now.
AMEN 3006 is amazing.. with new powerder and the 215 grain berger its consistent at 1500yrds better then 6.5 tacticool!
@@DriveCarToBar "it doesn't make a lot of sense to go to so much effort creating a shorter case and cartridge, only to have it recoil just as hard."
They did it again with .277 so
Much like the average GI during the Battle of the Bulge, I too want a BAR for Christmas
who doesn't want a Bar for Christmas
A Browning atoamtic rifle
@@theone-tg4ey people who actually had to carry them for 10 miles
@@adobo777 eh much like them I'll just get over it
Wasn’t this comment on the last xmas video? 😯 🤯
I’ve always liked the concept of the BAR. “If the enemy is throwing rocks at you, throw bigger ones back and at full auto.”
Yes defend the compound, bypod And F A
It may have been relevant when it was designed. WW1. All rifles are semi/full auto today and we have SMG/GPMGs
Not always bigger mean better...you just need hit something too:)
Beautiful quote, Bro.
Went to Iwo jima and the impacts from the rounds on the bunkers were insane. That is truly the lord's caliber.
Iwo Jima battle scars have earned my respect.
Thank you for your service . I worked with some guys who were there also .
Jesus saves souls, MARINES send him surplus >
My Dad used the word " wicked" to describe the BAR
Pop was a Combat engineer Amphibious island Hopper WWII
Nobody can talk down on the 30-06
My Dad was a Marine, he loved his Browning Automatic Rifle ! He passed away in 2015, he was 81.
Semper Fidelis
Your dad ,(IS)a Marine once a marine always a Marine
The 1916 NGSW looking pretty sweet.
Underrated comment
And lighter weight, too.
You should buy one and go to Ukraine, American "hero" style, and see if you can let go a shot before being minced by the Russians.
@@Eventual-Visitor what was your point in writing this comment? Thinking you made a difference by insulting some random american?
@@Eventual-Visitor Tf is this supposed to mean 😂
Just a thought I had, being reminded of the ice performance of the HCAR. There really should be a video on winter warfare on how to avoid the worry of ice. Having served as a Canuck we had our winter SOPs. Going over those for a "How to survive" episode would be useful.
Carry Lock de-icer for all your frozen gun woes
@@madmod That's great for the range, but that isn't the point of the "how to survive" series.
When in doubt just pee on it, worry about the corrosion and smell later
Current procedure from what I remember from Basic Winter warfare is every day, move the working parts (Cock the action, dry fire etc), especially the safety and magazine release, as those are prone to freezing. In really extreme temperatures, avoid using CLP in favour of graphite. My course was in -25 degree Celcius blizzards in CFB Petawawa, and I found our issued CLP made the parts far less likely to freeze up entirely, even after being outdoors for 2 weeks straight.
I am the person that actually assembles HCARs at OOW and I have a theory about why it froze up. We grease the internals of the firing mechanism and that grease is probably not rated for that low of temp.
Cool rifle but with a crazy price tag between $6,483.35 and $7,153.35. 🤯🤯🤯. Definitely beyond my pockets lol😂
Broke boi
@@brettstock3284 7k for a 30-06, fuck that. I could make a perfect rifle for not even half
Think I'll get a vepr in 30.06 :\
@@brettstock3284 you can tell us your bad with your finances with better vocabulary
That’s what it cost screw that
Having 30 rounds of 3006 is serious bidness. Take care of everything from a home intruder to a pack of rabid bears.
What if the bears are the home intruders
Then it saves you the trouble of going to the woods
@@nicklopez3461 that is true
The 30 round mags are great, 20 round mags work better for firing from the prone position.
My wife bought me an HCAR as a retirement present about 7 years ago. I love it. One of the first things I did was attack that front hand guard with a sanding block. Turned it from a flesh grater into a comfortable grippy hand guard. The flat sanding lock lot me really control the sanding and make sure I removed a uniform amount of material.
Your wife is cool
I figured I'll always be wearing some kind of glove anyway so the grip doesn't bother me much. I just wish OOW would pump out more magazines for the damn thing
@@captaintimcurry1713 100% agree on the magazine issue. I'm sure you know you can use the heritage magazines, but you do lose the last shot hold open feature. I usually only use gloves when shooting heavy recoil handguns so that hand guard was a definite issue for me. I really don't like doing surgery on firearms, so I made sure I was very careful in getting all the texturing at a consistent height.
@@RAIDER8388 Yes, she is.
@@ReanuKeevesAus I highly recommend retirement to you also, brother! I would definitely get an HCAR if you are a fan of the BAR, which I have been since childhood. Otherwise, you might want to pass, just given the expense. Sounds like you are a fan and that it has a sentimental aspect for you. Ohio Ordnance Works (OOW) put it in a lot of effort to lighten the rifle including use of non-metallics and the shorter dimpled barrel, but they also did additional machining on the receiver to lighten it where possible. The M1918A2 weighed about 18.5 lbs. and the HCAR weighs about 11.75 lbs. which is quite a bit less but still heavy. I love the rifle. It's super reliable, robust, extremely well made, accurate, and I am a big believer in the 30-06 round. It also has very little kick, compared to a 30-06 deer rifle due to it's weight.
I have fired about 1,000 rounds through it with no issues (factory ammo) using OOW and heritage magazines. The picatinny is great and I have used both reflex sights and a scope on it to great effect. I wound up leaving a variable power Leupold scope on it because I don't see using it for close-up work and my eyes need the help. It can still reach out there with the 16" barrel. The adjustable stock is a big plus and you can use any number of aftermarket AR stocks on it. I have not put a light on it just to keep weight off the front end and, as I said, I don't see using it for clearing rooms (maybe shooting through walls to destroy what's in the room). I think a must-have is a good sling and, in spite of Garand Thumb's expert opinion, a good bipod. I put a Magpul MS1 QDM sling and an Atlas PSR bipod (I am a big fan of the Atlas bipods, but a good old Harris would do fine). You can certainly forego an optic and just put some AR-type iron sights on the picatinny which is what I did when I first got it until you decide if you even need or want an optic on it. It is a unique firearm that puts a modern spin on an absolute classic and makes it better in the process. I love just pulling it out of the safe and looking at it, much less having the pleasure of shooting it. You are not likely to see another one at the range and it is a real head-turner. I like having some unique guns in my collection.
Another way to commemorate your service and that of your Grandpa's at much less expense, might be with a Model 1903A3, the WWII iteration of the Springfield Model 1903. It is a bolt-action rifle with a Mauser action and an internal 6-round 30-06 magazine. The 30-06 was actually created for the Model 1903 rifle. The A3 has a windage and elevation adjustable rear peep-sight located at the rear of the receiver which was a great improvement over the original tangent sight located at the rear of the barrel. It saw widespread use with the US military in the European and Pacific theatres of WWII and beyond (you probably know all of this). They are widely available in excellent condition, accurate, and a pleasure to shoot. I have a few of them and they are actually my favorite rifles.
I wish you all the best and am sure you would be well-pleased with an HCAR.
Can we take a moment and appreciate the cinematic nature of mike’s opening scenes?? It’s literally a movie with the sound design.
It's literally just an intro.
It's literally cringe AF when you realize it's a grown man kitted up by himself on a range with a cameraman.
He literally is playing dress up.
You literally don't understand the word literally.
@@InitialFailure What do think actors do on set? That's how a lot of indie movies are made
@@InitialFailure sad little life you have huh?
@@InitialFailureWhy are you so mad?
@@InitialFailure ur just jealous u dont have followers bro. 🤢
Despite the powerful recoil of 30-06 bullets, the muzzle moves less. It's a very controllable gun. That's great. It seems to have more control than the M14 and G3.
Because it probably weighs 45 pounds lol
@@PapaZyn100% that thing looks heavy as hell.
my first moose hunting rifle was a semi auto rem 742 in 30-06 and recoil is light enough that i could shoot it when i was 11 and it weighs 1/3 of the weight of that thing, its not always about weight but also about bolt/piston mass and excess gas used to operate it.🙃
11.75-12.5 pounds if Google is accurate, that's not too horrible if you're used to full size rifles.
@@skwissgaar_skwigelf_kdz3251 In this context he's referring to how much the recoil will affect the ability to deliver rapid and accurate follow up shots at ranges out to 300 yards or more. Such as what may be encountered in a combat situation. Not that the recoil is painful or unmanageable.
My Great Uncle carried a BAR with the 17th Airborne in WW2. Makes my feel fortunate for how much the M4 weighs. Couldn't imagine carrying that all over Europe.
I like how you said great uncle not just uncle my friend 👍
Yeah they weren't light lol, all metal and wood plus the weight of a 20 round mag full of 30.06 😅
I am an RN, and one of my favorite Patients is a gentleman who also served with the 17th. SCIONS Right? Did your uncles CO die in a paraglider crash? Was he like 6'5? I heard many stories about the 17th. Their unit patch was circular, black with an eagles claw in gold in the center correct? If your uncle is still alive, I am sure Mr Herrera would love to talk to him.
Explains why my grandfather had such massive forearms. Cept he carried the browning machine gun
@@jeremynicholson2138 Unfortunately, he passed a couple years ago. He wasn't the biggest fan of talking about to war experience, so I don't know all of the details.
I’ve been waiting for this one 🤤
hahaha hey boss
Bless you
Please don't blow it up ;-;
T-Rex Removal System
Kentucky I swear if you blow one of these up we’ve got a problem
When he said it was a battle rifle I was like oh so either .308 or .762 so when he said it’s 30-06 I was like DAMN, now that’s a nice rifle
If I heard right, you can use .308 on it, but let's be honest, why would you want to? It's a BAR, you use .30-06.
bro messed up 7.62 and wrote .762 instead
@@Pelmedeeznuts Bro messed up 30.06 and wrote "3BALLS6" instead.
30-06 is correct.
Right? I mean who would wanna feed it 308 caliber 150 grain bullets for 70 cents a round when you can feed it marginally faster 308 caliber 150 grain bullets for $1.20 a round?
This is like a love child of the BAR and the M14 EBR.
Would not want to be in the recieving end of that. 30-06 thats wild!
No kidding
I want mags that have "3BALLS6" labels on them LOL
@@killdizzle It’s an expression, not that deep
@@killdizzle Might as well dislike pretty much every expression ever created in that case.
The BAR was and still is an iconic and super cool rifle. Not going to lie the HCAR looks pretty sweet in its own right, would love to be able to try one out and see how it feels and shoots!
I like your Bully ❤️
Looks like an M1A would be better in every respect, and that gun isnt that great for practical use so that's saying something.
It seems the BAR in non US service was more likely to be seen for what it is, a light mchine gun. The Swedish BAR's, Belgian, etc. are very interesting. America for some reason stuck with the WWI theoriesof its use.
I wonder if it could double as a sniper rifle too. If it's accurate enough (and I don't see why it wouldn't be), it should be able to do it no problem.
For $7000 bucks you too can own an hcar. Check out their website, they have a bunch of really cool stuff
Modernizing the BAR was something that should have been done in the 30s the way other countries modded and improved the platform. I've thought about modernizing my Garand but, nah, hard to improve perfection.
It wouldn't be that hard, scale an m14/m1a receiver back up to .30-06 and give it an ebr chassis and boom diggity, you have a modernized m1 garand
@Satin don't worry grand papi garand still gets to rest, u see the m1a is grandson garand, and the .30-06 m1a is his not yet existent badass younger brother, they're doing the fighting, not grandpa silly. You see grandpa can only eat 8 rounds at a time, but his new grandson is a fat fuck and takes box mags, so there's no tellin how many round he can hold
No Ping No Garand
No. The BAR was heavy and awkward to carry and with a 20 round magazine just didn't work. Add more ammo, it gets even heavier. Plus, it was designed for clearing trenches.
@@willthorson4543 the HCAR cut a lot of the weight by lightening the receiver and dimpling and shortening the barrel, but it's still a fair bit heavier than the m14.
It still reportedly very controllable by way if an adjustable gas plug, and an inprived recoil buffer.
My grandpa God rest his soul lugged a BAR in Korea and had nothing but great things to say about his weapon. He would have gotten a big kick out of this. Great video.
I appreciate the 417 mags working, I do not appreciate having to use a 100 rd saw pouch for two mags
I keep running into environment cult left wingers that hate oil so much they want to chop the trees down to try to save the environment. I have to keep breaking it to them that chopping trees down to fight big oil doesn't work nor save the environment.
Yeah but if you show up with SAW pouches and WW2 bandoliers stuffed with mags full of black tip you'll be MVP that day.
Nicely done. I bought one of the first run of 250 on the HCAR. Yes, it was expensive, but the only drawback for me was that, just a few weeks later, Ohio Ordnance Works brought out their prototype of the Colt-licensed, WWI spec 1918 BAR in blued finish, with its magnificent Italian made leather case. I couldn't justify both, and the 1918 was even more expensive. Had I waited just a little longer, I'd have known that the 1918 was coming and bought that instead. But that's life. Other than that, no complaints about the HCAR. It's a magnificent rifle and the folks at OOW are great to work with, from the owner on down. I've done much business with them over the past 15 years or so and look forward to seeing them next month at SHOT.
Suppressed 30-hate is a beautiful thing!
Could you have rang them and asked if you could do an exchange since it was only a few weeks
@@WayStedYou My HCAR order included a custom serial number, something offered only on those first 250 rifles. It was too late at that point to make a change. And I am quite happy with the HCAR. I just really liked the 1918 too, with the classic WWI look.
1918 for 8K is pretty spicy…
@@NOTanOPERATOR208 Perhaps, but they were works of art as well as fine craft. I'd have paid the tab had I not already been committed to well over half that amount already.
I remember when they started making this... they were getting a buncha feedback off the guys on the older forums. It was really cool to see the project come together. The prototypes were wild.
Can't imagine why I've passed this channel so often. It was my loss. I love military rifles, military surplus and anything concerning our awesome military service personnel.
Great video. The 30 - 06 is the limit as far as recoil for my personal tastes.
I certainly can understand someone copying the iconic BAR and any weapon by the great John Browning.
Thanks for sharing. Here's a like and sub.
I shot a BAR standing back in 2010. I'm 6'4" and hover around 260 and on the slow fire rate that thing still pushes me back. The BAR truly is a beast.
My stepdad was a USMC BAR Gunner 45-48 drafted near the end of the war. Standing 5'7 150lbs he said it was all he could do to let the thing not knock him over.
@@OUTDOOR_SCALE_MODELS - Did your stepdad ever mention firing the BAR from the hip? Even slung at hip height? I'm asking because that's how John Browning originally designed the weapon to be used, slung at waist height. They called it "walking fire" in those days late in WWI, and the BAR was designed to clear trenches and break the deadlock of stalemated trench warfare. Of course, the experience of most combat soldiers is if there is a lot of lead in the air the last thing you want to do is stand up. That's when the bipod comes into play...
Been following this rifle for a few years now, such a nice rig, I just can't get past the $7k price tag and $100 mags to run $0.80/rd range days on a proprietary platform. Would love to run the 20in version of this thing, but the costs are unfortunately just untenable. It is extremely impressive how well they managed the recoil of the 30/06 though.
It's gotten me curious. Does anyone make a .30-06 AR?
@@fakecubed I've seen a few ar's chambered in it as well as 7mm. its unfortunate that 7.6254R seems to be incompatible with the platform but c'est la vie
@@fakecubedNoreen makes an AR-10 chambered in .30-06 called the BN 36. It’s good.
Yeah, amazing gun. The price tag is up there but it's worth it. I was amazingly lucky to shoot this gun when it was just a prototype a number of years ago.
Don't worry and Go with the saying: free guns are everywhere on a battlefield
The colt monitor is what the BAR should have been from the beginning. Such a sweet gun if you want to larp as a fed boi
“LARP a fed” no one on earth wants to do this
@@dmoney8602 fuck the feds
Idk the Department of Transportation investigative team is kinda a vibe
I'd rather larp as an air freshener in gas station restroom than larp as a fed
@@dmoney8602 How bout LARPing a 30’s Texas Ranger?
The HCAR can multitask and be an amazing option to DMR in select Fire. That's what the M14 was supposed to do before it got blown away by polymer and add ons. You can future any old platform. You can't build a new one without the future looking you dead in the face.
What's funny... the M14 is considered obsolete and the caliber too big and heavy.
Yet the FAL G3 used the 308, with full auto and no complaints during the African Rhodesian war.
Look how successful they were with the 308.
@@anthonylimjoco5958 we're arguing the same thing. Like your opinion though.
@@vtrbswarmachine Ya text sometimes doesn't express mind to sentence to read text. Ya I should have said the same, like what you wrote and was adding to the success of the 308 during the time when 556 was being promoted. Plus they say the wood will warp but the M1 Garand was used in four winter seasons and the pacific theater. My family has first hand accounts in the Pacific and I asked about the wood warping and was told a non issue for the major extent.
@@anthonylimjoco5958funny thing is the US now moving back to full powered rounds with .277 Fury/6.8×51mm with the XM7/MCX Spear. Personally I love rifles rounds and with the adoption of a battle rifle as the standard issued rifle, I'm looking forward to these rounds becoming cheaper when they are more wide spread.
@@BetaBreakingMarines won’t be following the army. We need to walk and swim everywhere
Quite possibly the most majestic, immersive, and down right beautiful into i've seen
Watch his video on the B.E. Meyers MAWL.
@@jedbozza8234 Very hype I loved it
Thomas Binger looking like an idiot, freezing his ass off and shooting a rifle in slow motion.
Not going to lie if the Gundies have a cinematography award Micah needs this award it only keeps getting better and better. Mad props to this channel and The Thumb himself!!
Small history note to my fellow BAR junkies. During Bonnie and Clyde's rain of terror, it was thought he welded 2 mags together, but in reality, it was a few larger mags from the national guard armory they robbed. The army did experiment with larger than 20 round mags, but it never took off.
I was always skeptical that anyone could stick-weld .020" thick sheet metal together, and still have the magazine follower slide past the weld joint.
@hunterbidensaidslesion1356 same here I have a BAR and took two mags and looked them over really good and I came to the conclusion if you tried you'd need alot more tools then he would have had. Cutting and welding ok, but making thr spring to work, you'd need a custom made spring.
That’s way more interesting than the original story. Dude was running around with prototype mags he stole from a military base. Is this confirmed?
@rg7stringplayer I've read it from a few different sources over the years and have seen photos of the original extended magazines. Now, on the collector market their super rare. Seems the army experimented through the 20s, and then some national guard units got them. It was mainly an experiment to see if the BAR could replace the Lewis gun in an AA roll. I've never seen any kind of belt set up with pouches for field use, only that they were used for AA positions.
@ Nate Jones - it is also known that certain mob figures had gun-smith work done to create one-off extended magazines for pistols like the M1911 45ACP. Baby Face Nelson had one with extended mags so he'd have to reload less-frequently in shoot-outs. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Clyde Barrow had similar work done to extend his BAR mags. I can't really see where he'd do that, because he was very concerned about keeping his BAR compact. He shortened the barrel so it would be easier to deploy from an automobile.
Texas Ranger Frank Hamer and his men, the ones who finally took out Bonnie and Clyde in Louisiana in a carefully-staged ambush, used BARs among their weapons. I guess that's known as fighting fire with fire.
They say 30-06 is the best rifle to have in your closet because of how accessible the ammo is and because of how great the round is. I’m glad they finally make a modernized 30-06. Would love to see this in an AR-10 platform. Let’s not forget that the 30-06 caliber is what won WW2
"... would like to see it in the ar 10 platform-"
That- my friend, would be the Noreen Arms "BN36."
Maybe. The US hasn't used .30-06 in 60+ years. Most of the US surplus .30-06 is long gone. There is some Korean made stuff kicking around that is corrosive. Every once in a great while, you come across some Greek surplus, but by-and-large, you're buying new commercial ammo.
I'd say .308 has taken over that spot just because its still in common use and is relatively cheap for target ammo. And .30-06 won WW2? Odd, because the Russians used 7.62x54R
@Clean97gti extremely similar ballistics to the 30-06. Other than the Rim. Which is what would give the 30-06 the edge in a modern platform.
Technically 7.62x54mmR won WW2
@@phoenix4ever367 .30-06 is just too long for a modern weapon system. It sits in kind of this awkward spot where it's not really any more powerful than it's contemporaries. It can be more powerful (so can 7.62x54R and 8mm Mauser) but you have to load it to higher pressure with heavier bullets. But then, if you're going to have such a long cartridge who's sole benefit is long range power, you might as well just use one of the many magnum cartridges out there.
A rifle like this would be a legendary loot drop in the apocalypse. So sexy.
No way, you gotta lug it around between the occasional finding ammo to run in it. Camp wall hangar maybe or stationary position
Most of those weird Reich Wing prepper types won't last anyway.
@@kbanghart we call them loot drops
@Purple Dawn oh, they always turn on themselves. But, you're probably delusional so I don't doubt you think that way.
@Purple Dawn oh cool! Please share that proof.
I own two, a 18 "and 20" in barrel. The recoil management system In these rifles is awesome. They are as manageable as an AR. I love them both.
Hey so I’m stuck between the 16 and 20 inch barrels, would you say theres a terrible loss in velocity and energy with the 16 inch compared to the 20? As I’ve just been told that it’s pointless to run .30-06 in a 16 inch barrel.
@@runtheshow6445 I wouldn't say it's pointless. The 16 " a stellar out to about 500 yards. The 20" is good for easily 1000 yards. If I had to pick one over the other I would probably go with the 20".
All I can think of is back to the future “Wow 2 HCAR’s? You must be rich!” “He’s just teasing you no one owns 2 HCAR’s” 😂 jk jk
@@sherlockbatmanholmes892🤣🤣🤣 right!?
Moneybags over here 😂
The army: “we’re looking for a new battle rifle.”
The bloody, ghost of John Moses Browning kicking down the door, HCAR in hand: “I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!”
My first thought was, "this is cool, but who wants to carry around a 20lb rifle?" then I googled the total weight, under 12lbs. That is extraordinarily impressive compared to the original BAR. My 5.56 AK weighs almost 12lbs..
My 2nd rifle I bought was a 30.06 Bolt action Remington WW2 era cut down and sporterized, which made it lighter and with a snap. Had a 303 too the same way. Much more than the original.
This is one of those weapons you weren't thinking about, until you saw it and you were like "Oh yeah, wow.....why HAVEN'T we updated the BAR until now?"
It is an amazing machine gun/rifle hybrid, grandfather shot those while he drilled at the rifle range in the reserves post-Korean War.
Called it one of the coolest, smoothest, while simultaneously the most kick-in-the-a$$ rifle/machine gun he'd ever shot.
He liked the Garand too, and the M1919 Browning MG.
I love seeing a local company on GT. I used to work for a calibration lab that calibrated everything from torque wrenches to pin sets for these guys. Seeing the attention they put into the equipment they use makes me believe the quality of product is second to none.
It's pretty cool that a gun designed for WWI and to be used in "walking fire" while walking (running...) across No Mans Land in France is still alive and getting modifications like this. Also it was John Browning's design to help win WWI for the allies makes it even more awesome. If only it didn't weigh so much, but that didn't stop the boys in WWII from kicking butt with it. Cool Rifle and glad someone had the interest to modernize it.
Freaking love this rifle. Never fired one, but I think it's an amazing take on the BAR. just wish I could afford an $8k weapon
All it needs is a coat of green paint, an aquila, and a sword bayonet, and you have a pretty close copy of a Kantrael-pattern lasgun 😁
HCAR: When you want a more modern gun for your time traveling WW2 mission, but also something that kinda can still use the same ammo, parts & mags.
Crazy that Christmas falls on garand thumb day this year. Truly a miracle
If you grabbed the real BAR as you did the HCAR after combat or during combat your would fry your hand for the barrel was clear on top. I was a Marine BARman and did love the weapon and yes I did remove the bipod, but only because it spun around making aiming more difficult on the move. I also removed the bugout handle for without the bipod that was not needed. The weapon had a gas port capable of being used to adjust the rate of fire in three positions. The BAR belt for magazines was fine if you had no other options. I used a gas mask bag to carry my Magazines for it held more magazines and was not in the way in various combat positions. One issue was if you rolled onto your back it was hard to get up with the standard mag belt. I carried the bag on my left side so it was out of harms way for ground contact. The original bar mags were a tad prone to damage so one had to be very careful to not get dents in them.
Colt Monitor, the Colt, product improved Browning Automatic Rifle with pistol grip produced from the mid-twenties to mid-forties.
Also the FN BAR, the Swedish BAR also. All of them had pistol grip, heavy, interchangable barrel. Some of them pretty decent.
And then thrown in the fucking ocean.
@@manhphuc4335 yeah the HCAR is just changed so much I dont even think Its compatible with bar parts anymore
Also great for gunning down outlaw couples.
@forgotten weapons made a video on it
I never comment on videos, but that intro was insane in quality and style. Micah and Mike have outdone themselves. Thanks for the incredible video gents.
That's my dream gun. Glad it is as cool as I hoped. Thanks guys.
Same.
Same bro lol
I like this and the MG42 😍
I have a Browning BAR Safari ll with Leupold 14.5 power scope chambered in 7 mm rem mag, it's 25 years old and a joy to shoot as it doesn't kick. It is a Hog killing machine, deer too. The Browning finish still looks new.
This is the rifle I’d want when a Covenant drop ship lands in my vicinity and unloads a mixed squad of Grunts, Jackals, and Elites.
If aliens invade, I want a .50 cal.
Deliver these Covenant bastards a can of Whoopass! Hoo-Rah!
I can already imagine BSG putting this in Tarkov and one shot is enough to make you stare into the sky, don't even think about a second shot, that will break your spine.
(next wipe, fix the recoil of EFT pls)
I just wish recoil was like it was 2 wipes ago, where FALs were good lol
Main reason I don’t want to play anymore😢
Dude the recoup is such a joke lol
lead dev of tarkov doesn't even play the game or videogames in general, so don't count on it
A fast 2nd follow up shot will literally turn your PMC into an accordion.
My dude… Merry Christmas
Thanks for the content
This intro alone sold it for me
nice weapon system, .30-06 was and is one hell of a round and is still an extremely effective round. cheers and Merry Christmas good sir!
30-06 is a fantastic cartridge the first rifle I ever took a deer with was a 30-06 that deer dropped instantly and seeing the exit wound was a real eye opener for a 12-year-old 😳
Same.. I shot my first deer in the neck and it was almost decapitated with the 30-06.
I also head shot a fox with the 30-06... you can imagine how that went
BAR watched the M14 EBR do an ollie to show off his new board so BAR grabs that board to nail a sweet pop shove it
I know the meaning of all those words but can't understand what they mean in that order.
Grandad was frontline fighting with the 6th Marines for the entire 3 months of Okinawa. He was grateful for the BAR, the thing sure does it's job
30 cal, my dad, and several uncles trained and fought with it. My dads Army BCT book also shows them on the BAR range. Its about time a modern tactical rifle was designed and chambered in this legendary military round.
I'm in f-ing love with the HCAR.
My grandfather used the B.A.R. during the Korean war transporting pow's here in the states as a Marine. Very respected man.
He terrorized a civilian population for what? That isn't respectable at all.
When I bought my first rifle in 1979, I chose a 30-08 because it was the most popular caliber and available at most every place that sold ammunition. That's no longer the case.
The BAR is my all time favorite. Crazy when it was made you can walk in a store and just buy it off the self.
Never forget what they took from you
Not crazy, the most reasonable thing you can do.
It was a pricey thing - the number I see repeated on websites is $319, which at the modern rate of inflation would be around $5,650. If you were working a job in an active industry like the motor trade in 1922, you would be making around $33 a week, approximately $585 in today's money. It'd be about the equivalent of ten week's wages for the average factory worker.
All I'm saying is, for any time travellers from the 1920s reading these comments - seize the means of BAR production and distribute one to every American man, woman and child ASAP.
Even drug stores sold them ! But was the start of modern day “ g “ control just because a couple people “ abused “ them, sounds familiar, that safety thing term , best movie using it staring Steve McQueen as a sailor in China ( forgot the movie name, think it was the name of the boat
dude you video quality if off the charts, incredible intro!
Love watching Scott shoot this baby on KB. Glad Mike is giving it a go. Thanks for the great Christmas present.
Scott is obsessed with the HCAR
@@GarandThumb There is no doubt LMAO. I even think it'd be his "zombie apocalypse" gun.
Everything about this intro is superior! Well done Garand Thumb. Epically good!
I wanna watch this so bad but I'm with the in laws. You know how it is. Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas bro
Is your in laws both women? I don't see why you can't take pops out for a dart and some thumb action?
Merry Christmas y'all
Assert dominance, watch it anyways
Fuck their feelings and watch the video anyway
the FN Mag/M240 is an inverted BAR with a belt feed, so yeah, it's a good design.
BAR and 1911. both designs over a hundred years old. both still going strong.
Testament to John Browning’s genius.
I'm usually hard pressed to find a new firearm that sparks my interest...but I think you've showcased one. I respect the BAR so this reimagined HCAR has me intrigued and I'm looking into purchasing one to test for myself. I personally like the weather you were in as winter warfare movies are my favorite movies...and some of the best weather to test a firearm. Great video and stay safe.
Ahh the Battlefield Hardline nostalgia feels so good
DELICIOUS DONUTS SPOTTED!
@@Cheeeseyboibest easter egg to add given the setting. That and the drivable couch
The game that made me want this gun!
@@captaintimcurry1713that game made me want a lot of guns. That game had the best gunplay bar BF1
The hcar was always my favorite it took forever to unlock the weapons license to use for either team
My least favorite part of prestigeing was losing the hcar for a while then having to unlock it all over again
this gun has been on my wishlist for years. I had thought it had been forgotten about by everyone else.
30-06 being easy to find has entered the chat
Most 3006 is soft point wonder if that would be a problem in a semi auto.
@@JohnDoe-in9lc nah you can get 30-06 in FMJ NATO loads for days.
Been using em for coyotes for decades lol I always keep a few on me when Im hunting.
@@mrdark9916. In my area it's hard to find 3006 in fmj. That's what I mean by most 3006 is soft point from Walmart to several gun shops They never hardly carry fmj.
All I can find in my area is hunting ammo and it’s $$$$$$
@@JohnDoe-in9lc yeah for sure if you're talking about just local stores only I can relate to that. I tend to order ammo online, or there's a couple surplus stores in the area, I was just saying that they are readily available and not difficult to source
Ahh The BAR lives. Even the 240 MG was built around an inverted BAR bolt group. My NESA shoots like a dream.
The cinematography is unmatched and the audio quality is impeccable. Outstanding as always.
The barrel is dimpled for the operator's pleasure.
Been waiting for this review for a while.
30-06 is not a problem.
It's a feature.
The fact that it still shoots 30-06 just makes me happy
What About 7.62mm ?
Garand thumb uploads on Christmas…. Best present of the year
Merry Christmas!
Pretty neat, but given that price point it's definitely not an average man's fighting rifle. I may be interested if it was 308, but I guess if you can afford $6,500 for a rifle, you can afford to shoot 30-06 by the dozen.
jesus 6500 smackeroos for what.
If you want it you will find a way 🤷♂️
@@s0nnyburnett 6500 clams is definitely an investment.
Mine was $4800 list, and $5200 after taxes. No optic though, Garand thumb is running an optic the same price as the gun...
Reloading 30-06 is the way
Glad to see the cinematic intros back. They were my absolute favorite part of any guntube video.
That volley at 1:55 is just sick nasty. Sounds great with the suppressor, but even better walking down laying down rounds without it.
Handle the BAR myself and it really works best from the prone position. Shooting off the hip is doable but not recommended. If you want to stand up during an enemy contact situation, it might have a more than hazardous consequences to your head and upper torso. After handling the original BAR you get a preference for the BAR-D model. It was the predecessor to this remake model. I wish it had an interchangeable barrel with some kind of much bigger magazine. One thing though about the BAR it uses a round that can get you out to 1,500 yards all the time. Tried to shoot it in the standing and on full auto. And by the time the third round lit off, I was looking into the sky at approximately, 35 degrees angled above the horizon. The BAR is difficult to hit a target shooting in the standing shooting position. The M-14 is a much easier weapon to shoot in the standing position. And you could mount a scope. The older one you could not scope Mount anything. Unlike what I’ve seen into today’s broadcast you can actually mount something for day or night. I was waiting for the full auto Mag dump, what happened? Thank you, G.T. For being so good, at what you do. Aloha to you and your family. 🌺🌸🌴❤️🇺🇸
These things are so awesome. Every since they came out with them I have lusted after one. Fortunately / unfortunately they are at a price point where I would rather spend the money on 2-3 different firearms that are on my "must have" list - but eventually that list will be filled and perhaps I can swing purchasing an HCAR. What a fantastic weapon. 30-06 is still more than relevant than people think these days due to it's flexibility and availability. You can load everything from 110gn bullets at 3400fps to 225gn at 2500fps. I even still have some "Accelerator" ammo which was .22 caliber bullets with a sabot loaded into a 30-06 case. Not very accurate, but interesting.
The Colt Monitor is what the Army should’ve had instead of the BAR. The FBI proved its worth during prohibition. If fact the Colt Monitor is essentially the HCAR.✊🏻🇬🇧😊
The Army needed a proper SAW. The Monitor just isn’t a SAW. It’s very good for stopping lightly armored cars like bank robbers and moonshiners were running but it’s just not what the Army needed. The BAR A2 was a crappy SAW. What they needed was the FN Model D, which Colt had the rights to make
The Monitor was an improved BAR and according to Internet wasn't available until 1925 and was discontinued in 1931.
and as Gun Jesus remarked. A great way to lose one's hearing.
@@andyrihn1 You’re right with hindsight. The Colt Monitor was developed in the 1920s, the FN Browning variant was not until after the 2nd world war ( I think). The fact of the matter is they were both better than the BAR in WW2.
@@daz6637 the model D entered production in 1932. The same gun but without the quick detach barrel was produced by Colt since 1926 (Colt would make some with detachable barrels in 1942), FN since 1930, and under license by Poland since 1928
Finally a upgraded version of the famous classic automatic rifle, for the 30 caliber rifle round, and for someone who have a trigger time with the vintage BAR, I sure would love to have a trigger time with this rifle.
When you see the mag being chunky like that, you know there’s serious fire power.
Anything that throws 30.06 down range is megabased and gets a thumbs up from me
A2 is the most readily available armor piercing milsurplus
Not a nice round to go up against for sure. I would hate to be shot at with one of these. Truly an underrated cartridge no reason to hate on it when it SHREDS
Gnarly how you associate that with heavy bolt action hunting rifles fit for taking down elk , and this thing slings one of those as fast as you can pull the trigger . Absolutely based.
I pulled some of those and reloaded them into .300 Win Mag.
I got to spend a week playing with an HCAR, we torture tested them. Extremely accurate, reliable and the recoil is very manageable.
I love this thing, it's like it was yanked out of an alternate reality where the Colt Monitor was deemed the peak of small arms design, the US was doubly stubborn in their cartridge selection and NATO adopted a 7.62x63mm, but pretty much all other firearms development continued as usual.
Such a magnificent piece of equipment! My dreams of one day owning one have been tragically taken away from me. E cat no longer exists in this country! I am happy to be able to live vicariously through you. Thanks you bloody legend!
Billion likes for that awesome intro. just amazing work.
Seriously. Better than 95% of $ht on “history” channel
I met a very small man who was a WW 2 Vet. He told me all about the BAR & said he carried it during war. He said the Army assigned the mm to the smallest guys in each squad, to but, someone else carried the ammunition.
18:54 The weather over that landsdcape looks beautiful