We Test The US Military's Newly Adopted .277 Fury Round
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2024
- The US Military has officially adopted the M7 rifle in .277 FURY (6.8x51). In today's video we test accuracy, lethality, controllability and other factors as we fully evaluate this new round.
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the fact that the photo didn't pop up as he put his hand there was gold
Micah playing jokes all day
@@GarandThumb He needs a raise
@@GarandThumb but it was funny af tho lol he needs a raise lol
micah needs to be sacked
@@adderalandy1781 Sacked in the sack by women who are stacked?
NATO: Okay we finally all switched to 5.56 now we're all standardized!
U.S. Army: Good news everyone!
USA military: "Who wants good news? Everyone?.... Good news everyone!"
This comment format is getting really old, kids.
Mandatory good news! And it come with PT belt reflection for night safety
U.S. Army: We basically remade .280 British
Don't worry the m4 will not die so easily
No lab coat? data inconclusive
And bring back the cool 80s science intro!
😂
Must resolve.
It was laundry day so please excuse this oversight.
He's trying to be more serious...no really...serious
'everybody ran to tell their friends' fucking got me rolling
I read this before i heard the joke 😂and was like what
Early on, I pressured Mike to keep Charlie in the mix despite the comments section. I’ve never felt so vindicated.
I popped for that.
@@forestcampbell8962 You did what now?
I love how Mike will be like, "Micha will put an image up here."
And Micha is like "the fuck I will."
micha
@@ifalone micah
@@Vsm_integra mikae
There was a close up shot of the two a few moments earlier. I think its just continuity errors when that happens, because he's covering any editing bases while they're all the way out at the range.
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If you've ever started a range day with a flinch, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
I cry every time
@@GarandThumb I had a bad bad flinch to begin my range trip yesterday. Still thinking about it lol
Started with a squib once... Definitely flinched.
@@GarandThumb
Doing the Lord's work by bringing Trans Bullets to God
@@GarandThumbMe too man, me too.
I don’t even go to the range, I just cry a lot.
The first shot into the ballistics gel... you saw the gel jump from impact before the sound of the shot being fired! That is MOVING!
The 277 Fury is in hold right now pending more durability testing of the rifles. Some of the brass does not like it because it is too much like the M-14 story - ammo too powerful and heavy which makes the rifle heavy. It might replace the 7.62 round but not the 5.56, but it's anyone's guess as to what the brass will decide.
Honestly, good. The lessons in on-person logistics are too important to have lost.
Well...as an Old Fart 👴 Veteran...
I think they oughta just leave " Well Enough " Alone...!
I wasn't a Fan when they switched from the .45 caliber 1911 to the NATO 9mm...
( guess they forgot " Why " the .45 1911 was adopted...!?? 🙄 ) ,
Not to mention , going from the .30 - 06 to the .308 / 7.62 x 51mm...n the M - 16 5.56mm ..
Thank God they had the Good Sense ta keep Mr. Brownings' " MA Duce " .50 caliber
@@nelsonlanglois9104 the 45 ACP was invented as a replacement to the Colt 45 which was adopted because it could put cavalry horses down. The DOD switched to 9 mm for ammo commonality within NATO. The M-14 was a failure in Vietnam and lessons were learned from that failure, which resulted in the adoption of the M-16. The 50 MBG "Ma Deuce" is still in service because it does not have to be carried around by an infantry grunt, and there is nothing better to replace it.
Primary arms has everything he said. Can't buy a loving father, sadly.
You don’t rent yours?
They'll be in stock soon
You got to be your own.
If they had milk, maybe dad never would've had to step out to grab some at 10 pm...
@@FrMehmanI've heard of renting spinning rims, but renting a dad takes the cake as the most hood thing ever!
"Lvl 5 plates dropping soon" - Lockheed Martin
Just skip level 5-20 and go straight to power armor. We all see where this is going.
@@magnanimus9692annexing Canada?
@@blue4629they would welcome it at this point
They're going to start issuing personal one man tanks that transformer into little Jets and helicopters.😂😂😂
@@blue4629 "Little America is ours. But let's face it, it always has been".
Fantastic review and not mentioned within the video (unless I missed it my apologies) is that it only has a 13 inch barrel (per Sig's website at least) so to get those speeds out of a 13 inch barrel is really quite incredible. Awesome content as always, keep it up.
Its 13" but I think the design itself includes suppresor which ads few inches and gets you the velocity it has. Not sure thou, I think I heard it somewhere
They use fast burning powder and utterly mental pressures to get the speed. Which is also why the cases are partly made of stainless steel, a fully brass case would not be able to handle the stress.
Yea just imagine if they made a 20" or even a 25" barrel for it.
US: hey so we got this neat new gun, wanna see the ballistics?
[Insert non american country here]: sure
M7 with 25" barrel: fires a 113 grain bullet at mach fuck
[Inser non american country here]: *automatically becomes US ally*
@@RandomIowanGuyTotally. It’s one of those, “All US non allies have left the chat….” 🤣🤣🤣
As an American, I love this country. I’m so happy our military is the best on the planet that we go by the doctrine of overmatch.
This round and the rifle it’s coming from over matches everyone and will likely be the new M1 grand, which perhaps was the finest weapon designed in the history of warfare. (Per Patton.) This could be our new M1 grand if that makes sense.
10:26 heads up down range cameraman!
They've now edited out about 10 video frames within the youtube interface itself removing the guy running when the camera panned slightly to the right.
Now the only indicator of the presence of a human being being downrange is the shadow of said person adjusting what I believe to be a slo-motion camera, and their right hand
Tripod.
Last time I was this early, the US persuaded all NATO allies to adapt 5,56x45 and 7,62x51
Зачем? 5.56 имеет больше плюсов нежели новый калибр,хотя бы в том что боевые действия показали чем больше носимый боекомплект солдата тем больше шансов выиграть бой.
Declined 280 brit, and similar then they basically went back to the same idea 50 years later
@@WayStedYoumuch better technology now. It makes sense.
@@WayStedYou if you think this anywhere close to the British 280 then you don't understand guns
Why didn't you stop them adopting that pos tinker toy round?
Micah you failed us 0:40
Yeah wtf
Where the EPM round? 😢😢😢
That's not a fail. Total win, Micah.
Charles failed us in not delivering a dumb and dumber whack.
Just a test to make sure we're still watching 40 seconds in...
"Gawdamn Micah"
~ Every RDR2 player, at some point
Absolutely Fantastic as usual!!
I just discovered your channel. Instant subscriber! Love the content. Keep it coming.
You have much to learn from earlier videos my friend. Seek them, well worth it
"Smells weird, probably cancer"; sir you did not have to make me laugh so violently with this one liner.
@@dcptivnah, it's about how you handle it.
@@dcptivdon’t be a Debbie downer
It wasn't even that funny dude. Relax
Only in the state of California
@@dcptivit’s also just straight up facts because not everything that’s manufactured is safe to inhale/consume
"Everyone ran to tell their friends"
That absolutely got me.
Absolute gold!
Brandishing in Chuck E Cheese FTW
Charlie has elevated the concept of "out of pocket" to an art form
Guy down range running away at 10:26
Yikes.. yeah I keep thinking in some of these videos that one day something's gonna go terribly wrong
yikes
Yeah saw that too. But these mfs have brains, they know what they doin especially Mike. If you train, remember this? “🤘🏼”
@@Jrude22 They have brains, but they clearly dont use them because they shot with a dude down range.
@m0hz3 If the Swiss can put a shooting range over a highway, then anybody without epilepsy can shoot with a 30 degree safety angle.
That 10:25 mark shows why you never get complacent with safety 😂
Just came from Reddit to see it
They 100% edited it out. You cant see the person anymore
@@jurpo6yeah I was wondering what everyone was talking about. Not seeing anything
What was it originally?
@@user-xp5id1kh4r a man next to a camera tripod in the cone of fire. It was egregious enough to draw a bunch of comments.
The fact that this is the civilian version of the cartridge and its zipping down that barrel at about 3100fps and cracking ribs behind lvl 4 plates with just a solid copper 113gr projectile is pretty wild. I could just imagine what the heavier military projectiles are gonna do with the higher pressured ammo 😮
Wear out barrels lol
@@12ealDealOfficialthe program requires a barrel life of 9k rounds. SIG Sauers barrel for the m7 is 10k for the military standard
@@12ealDealOfficial tfw no brain
Are civilian rounds not generally higher pressure and velocity because they're not required to perform in as adverse a set of conditions? Commerical .308s, for example, typically run higher, often 25% higher, PSIs. I coincidentally listened to a Hornady podcast episode on .308 this morning.
You are right on the bullet construction though TSX is a hunting projectile, they're just copper with no lead. Militaries often use differently constructed bullets, steel core for armour piercing
The 6.8 fury is good . But if every soldier in our military,can't have it then it's worthless. Plus it's not way better than 308. The 120 gr in 308 could do the same thing if loaded correctly
"but my side plates are uncomfortable!" brother, so is getting holepunched at 3000 fps.
lol I think id rather be dead then know what id feel like after getting hit with that round and having all my ribs implode behind the body armor.
The armor test was cool. The wearer would be having a bad day, however, they would still be around to continue having that bad day.
Very good video. Thanks Mike Jones.
In the summer of 2007, i waa leading my fire team down a street pushing north of my platoon in a town south of baghdad. We were pushing toward a building on the end of the street to take a couple of AT4s on the roof. We had been in a series of skirnishes with fighters, including armed trucks, and needed AT posted.
We ran past an occupies building with 2 guys + AKs. One opened fire as i ran past. He hit me with 2 rounds. One hit my side plate, crimpling it and breaking 2 ribs. Round number 2 hit my hip, breaking bone and dropping me.
I was very fortunate to be armored against that threat, because if that hadnt stopped the first round, I'd be dead.
Was your team able to find the guy who did it and return the favor?
Glad you made it back!!!
@@snapdragon6601
Yeah we yeeted a couple of frags in there. I was pushed to the cash and then to Germany. I didn't get back my platoon until almost Christmas. By the time I got back, most of our first squad had been sent home, along with one of track crews.
That was one hell of a year
Thank you....ABN 75
Glad you’re still with us
Good work micheal 0:40
Yeah
It was a joke. You have failed.
They probably did it for this comment
@@chrismeandyou Narrator: "It wasnt a joke"
@@chrismeandyou He was probably joking as well..
From Iowa, glad to hear the shout out!!! 😂❤❤❤
Same bro.
great video i love the way of hosting the video very fun catchy style
“The good news is the armor stopped the bullet, the bad news is your organs are still damaged due to physics”
Veteran: Is that service connected???
VA: NO…
Almost like there is a reason we don't use bare plates in the field and have trauma plate backers.
Welp, all those energy got to go somewhere right?
Not how that works lol. Unless the round is barely being stopped the backface deformation should be minimal, and absent any super huge BFD the worst you’ll have is a bruise. Remember Newton’s third law, it’s only the same force as the recoil, the only reason the bullet kills is because of the surface area.
Edit: nevermind just saw the part in the vid. still, a trauma pad would mitigate most of that.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716yeah well, of course you also have to account for the variations in the human body. Everyone will take the shock a bit differently and the context can make a difference too. Those dummies are only a facsimile meant to be a close, but not perfect, representative of an average human subject, too. Depending on a person and their build, even with the trauma plate behind it, there will be a range of performance outcomes depending on where someone is hit and other factors like their size and physique. One guy might get a busted rib despite a plate and vest to absorb and slow the projectile down, another guy might not even get a bruise. It’s not like fricking video games where it’s a fixed value that soaks up a certain amount of damage. Ballistics comparisons are helpful, but real life is always more messy and unpredictable. That’s part of the reason why we don’t aim to create armor that protects our soldiers from every conceivable caliber or combat conditions. We simply make armor that’s just good enough.
It might not totally stop you from being injured, but the lives they save still speak for themselves. Even back before body armor became standard military equipment, firearms were still plenty lethal, and still more soldiers died from injuries after battles than they did from fatal wounds. Alongside the development of modern medical science making it much easier to help soldiers who do sustain injury, body armor saves many lives just by being good enough to prevent and mitigate injuries to a degree that people don’t instantly die and have much better chance of surviving to receive care for any injuries they do sustain than they would otherwise. Coming at it from this perspective is necessary too, when you consider that there has to be a balance between the weight, protective capacity, cost, and availability of the armor we choose to deploy. For what it does, modern armor is truly amazing.
The same logic applies to their process for developing these next generation weapons. Their goal isn’t to make the most powerful or perfect weapons platforms, it’s to make one’s that will reliably do what work we need them to do while also fitting into our overall strategic designs and capacities, which is why they have so many constraints on the design. They already know exactly what they want to use them for and how they’d like them to be implemented, and the whole point of the design contest process is to determine it’s feasibility and value, in addition to evaluating different designs to find a suitable candidate worth the cost.
So a 113 grain copper bullet out of a 13” barrel going at 3050fps drops only 1 mil at 500 yards? That’s just mind blowing. Apparently it does blow minds out of the back of the head very well too.
I shoot the Barns 130 TTSX in 308. Out of a 16” barrel it’s right at 3000fps and it’s just unbelievable on game.
The mind blowing impact of it would definitely be my last thought.
You would think rather than go to a new caliber just improve current calibers with new propellant and projectiles like you did.
@@stevenhall2408 improvements aren’t sexy. New stuff is. You’re right though.
@@stevenhall2408 They can't, this improvement is because old guns can't handle them. Even guns being made brand new are too weak. Sorry, they are. We've had metals capable of handling much higher pressure for decades but that would require new designs for this higher pressure. Thats why this new rifle is revolutionary: its the first rifle being made for a modern upgraded chamber pressure.
Do you handload the TTSX, if so what powder? I was thinking of developing a lighter load for my 308 with an 18-inch barrel.
I love you guys. Semper Fi.
This was awesome guys!
"Micah will pop up a little photo of right here..."
(Leaves GT hangin')
This channel has kind of become the new "Future Weapons"
This show was my childhood
There is only one Future Weapons. RIP
Just another chapter in his story...
Future forgotten weapons.
Garand Thumb is great but he can’t be compared to Future Weapons. No tactical whispering, no bald seal, no use of 2000s electronical music, no cool sound effects...
The no photo pop up cracked my jack!
Love you, dawg!
"5.56 doesn't work, we need something bigger."
Sounds like the FBI after the Miami shootout.
And they already declined 280 british and similar rounds and then went back to basically the same thing will these years later after forcing people to use 5.56
5.56 works they never said it doesn't, but 6.8 has more firepower with controllable recoil. Stagnating is never good.
@@thesupreme8062why upend the entire arsenal with new proprietary rifles and ammunition when there's plenty of SR25/ KAC M110 pattern rifles with pallets of ammunition capable to 1000yds already in storage? Makes way more sense from a logistics standpoint to issue AR10 pattern rifles with modern magazines and optics 🤷♂️
How often is the US military fighting against Lvl4 armor? China and Russia aren't using special plates, rifles or ammo.
@@WayStedYouit is not the same as the British 280. It is actually significantly more powerful
@@ChrisReparationslul The point being was to have every soldier engage at longer rangeswith more firepower than 5.56 like Afghanistan showed. I think that's why they want this. Ofc military somehow decides this rifle should be a close range beast too. . . I think they will make a carbine version with the round just like m16 later spawned the m4 which replaced the former and making submachine guns almost completely wiped out. They already have a smaller MCX platform they can use the round on.
1:54 holy shit charles got me with the "everyone ran to tell their friends" 😂😂
Hoping I get a chance to play with one. I currently rock the m110a1 (which looks the same as this m7) as the sdm and I absolutely love it
Watching it travel through the gel is completely frightening... I love it!
That shot at 9:28
Reminder: This is CIVILIAN GRADE .277 Fury with relatively medium sized SOLID COPPER bullet.
I dont wanna imagine the faster and heavier Mil-Grade version gonna do
Right almost war crimes proformance...i love America
This has the steel base, the pressure should be the same, only the projectiles different.
fucking judge dread rounds
People always think the military runs gear and ammo that is so much superior to what civilians can get their hand on when this couldn't be further from the truth. The fact is the military will often select budget friendly equipment since they have to mass produce it.
I say this as veteran who is now a civilian competition shooter. The custom rifles people use, and the ammo they reload are so much more advanced than anything I ever used while active duty. This round is relatively new, but once more civilians get their hands on it, begin tinkering with it figuring out the best loads, it will be far greater than what the military provides. Point being, this round is the exact round the military will likely issue.
@@agonzalez8924 I thought the military .277 was a steel and brass hybrid casing? This is fundamentally different than the civilian rounds, no? I've heard that's how they can achieve upwards of 80-100k psi, which is devastating compared to 60k psi
"Impact!"
*pause* [Tink]
Satisfying every single time.
_tink!_
Tune in Tokyo on the B Gel! Background Charlie is the best!
Charles has gotten super fit. Looking good dude
10:01, that ricochet was nuts.
Or the dude down range at 10:24
Yikes.. yeah I keep thinking in some of these videos that one day something's gonna go terribly wrong
@@illegalalien4323you may be seeing a bone but there was 100% a nasty ricochet. Put it in .5 playback speed and you can hear it very clearly.
Read the blog that probably made this rifle happen! iamgermane.blogspot.com/2013/10/replace-m-4m-16-rifle-now.html
@@PureRushXevus people were raising all kinds of hell about it on other social media I'm sure the GT team is aware of this f up lol. Hopefully we see nothing like this again.
nice one micah 0:40
Thank you ☺️
@@micahmayfieldTop 10 editors of all time
@@micahmayfieldhow many subs to oil up?
Geez man what stack are you on lookin buff 💪🏻
I just watched a garand thumb video from one year ago. The guy has doubled his size 💪🏻
It’s not a secret that he is on roids
Closest Charlie has ever come to actually saying "Sonoran Desert Industries," and somehow one of the most offensive attempts 😂
Sonoran Desert Institute
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701hahaa autocorrect got me good and hard on that one.
Snorin Dorin Pro sti tute
You what's kind of interesting when Army was looking for a new rifle to replace the M1903. They settled on the M1 in .276 Peterson, they really liked the .276 but MacArthur convinced the military to go with 30-06 because they had so much of it. Fast forward today they choose a rifle in .277.
Valid
Except the .276 Pedersen was loaded with a .284 bullet. .276 was the bore diameter.
Very interesting...so did MacArthur have a head for numbers and was saving dollars in his head?Was the .276 Pedersen more effective in killing the enemy?Would they have changed the LMG'S into .276??I have questions!!
@@wirelessone2986 It would have had a little less recoil, and therefore it would have been a little easier for the average infantryman to hit targets with, but otherwise wouldn't have been any more effective. The only reason .276 Pedersen even existed was because there were no semi-auto rifles suitable for military use that could handle .30-06. The second that it became clear that the Garand could handle .30-06 without a problem, at the cost of only two rounds of magazine capacity, the .276 was dead.
@jic1 Bravo thank you brutha...your description made sense and with the garand able to easily handle .30 06....Wow...it was going to hit the soldiers of the axis powers solidly.
Mr. Mike, i have been watching your videos for a long time now, love your videos. I was wondering that in the near future you would do a video on how to get a good entry level kit setup from plate carriers all the way to camo patterns on a medium budget, because there is so many options for the consumer and can be hard to get threw it especially if you are not military and i find myself not doing anything cause i don't know what brand or camo pattern to get. I totally understand if you don't do to there not being a good view group for this content , but i figured i would ask. THX
Could be really interesting, kind of throwback to the old, black background videos. I second this!
@@filkow9541 I miss the old black background vids lol.
You guys are awesome
Looks great, gonna get the SCAR treatment
Waiting for the too heavy on the field feedbacks by the soldiers
Might be too heavy, but i doubt the soldiers are going to complain much considering the big firepower increase @@simonx760
I mean, it is basically just a less reliable, heavier SCAR made 20 years too late, so that makes sense.
It’s already being fielded by the 101st and is getting very positive feedback
whats the scar treatment?
Anyone else see at 10:26 the guy down range running away from the slowmo camera 😂😂
Looked like Charlie
👍Range safety
Yeah dude, I saw that too. I know the cam has to start recording RIGHT before the shot so they don't have a 37 TB file but that was WAY too close.
They could have used an acoustic trigger or a least a long wire.
I mean, they did say they were going to be testing it on Charlie 1:00
This is one of the reason why I would prefer fighting in WW2, Weapons now are simply just too OP.
Yo what cycle you on? Got beefy brother, great vid 👍
Love it when Mike says “Micah will pop up (blank) here”.
And then he just doesn’t do it!
The cultural sensitivity on this channel is the best part!!
there just virtue signaling there beleifs, i personally dont care for what random guntubers think on political and social issues. they shoupd keep to what they know best, firearms.
Gay@@randomsnow6510
@@randomsnow6510just another thing you liberals need to be schooled on quit projecting
I'm NOT a fucking pansy, but really? 🤔 PLA in the Pacific? Though I get the DOUBLE REFERENCE, very poor taste. Positively love reviews on the weapons featured. JUST SAYING 🤔.
@@randomsnow6510 😢
I can tell hanging out with you guys would be absolute fun
It is a killer rifle my only concern would be barrel life. The trade off for that super hot smokin fast round is that the barrel is definitely going to be wearing out really fast.
Yeah, kind of like a .270.
This rifle will be perfect for a twenty year battle in the mountains of Afghanistan.
Fr, there’s the people who have no concept of what actual military operations are and think bigger and faster mean better, and then you have the other people who recognize this as a step backwards and completely unnecessary.
Just like the Maginot Line, thanks big army!
@@elterga6224for sure, because infantry are all kitted out exclusively with 50 cals like… or maybe weapon designation is determined based on the expected threats. Just because something is adopted doesn’t mean it’s immediately the favorite 😜
@@It-b-Blair huh?
@@elterga6224you still have the GWOT mentality where shitting out 1000’s of rounds of 5.56 solved problems. We’re shifting away from fighting insurgents and unconventional warfare where volume of fire was priority over accuracy. This platform and round were clearly made with accuracy as the forefront over volume of fire. Add the fancy scope that automatically adjust itself, and you have a very effective platform in the hands of trained individuals. Once these get fielded, it’s up to the army to implement effective training so our guys and gals in OCP know how to use this correctly and effectively. Training will be where the real issue will lie and if the army can successfully implement things.
I can’t wait to see this on Forgotten Weapons 😂
You already can see it there
@@georgerichards5369 Haha this is gonna be ditched even faster than the SCAR
Though if we do drop it I wonder what would actually replace it. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@hypno17freaking nothing bro. They’ll put in a DMR role and stick with the M4.
@@NunyaBesnas That’s their MO. I could them upgrading the M4 to the Sig Spear LT platform though. Gotta keep Sig happy 😂
Loooool charlie on point today! "It was really harrd" and "everybody ran to tell their friends" 😂😂😂
SOOOO Glad Charlie is back. He's one of a kind
I came for the guns , stayed for Charlie
That first round recoil anticipation at the beginning was insane
Now where all the "too much recoil" gang at 😂
Charles’ commentary is always GOLD🤣
Blew his lung out at 10:05 ... approaching the power of the legendary 9mm.
Someone better call Joe 😂
Sig Sauer has become the American version of H&K on now prioritizing LEO and Military contracts and overpricing the civilian market.
isnt sig swiss?
They are American?
Except Sig contracts labor and manufacturing to places like India, producing weak parts that fail like the firing pin on P365. I'd trust HK over Sig any day.
@@jbob2447 Sig Sauer is a brand name used by two sister companies based in Germany and the USA. The company, originally based in Germany, was founded in 1976 from a partnership between two other arms companies - Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (SIG) and J.P. Sauer & Sohn of Germany.
got this from google
@@Valentin-bn3lu originally Swiss/German yes. But the US branch became more independent in 2007. Just still under the same parent company
BC = Ballistic coefficient btw for anyone wondering. Basically a float value based on the shape of the round and its ability to slice through the air / minimize air resistance.
Calculated by Mass / (drag coefficient x cross sectional area)
What does he mean when he says epm projectile? I know it's the difference between the rounds but what exactly is the difference?
@@gingergoat405 That i actually don't know. I'll have to educate myself on that. I'll let you know what i find.
@astropolski not a problem I'll get on the research myself. :)
🤓 (thanks)
@@gingergoat405 It is a M855A1 type round but made for this new caliber.
I needed to see Charlie and that rake today , god he’s good .
Charlie is on point today...going full semi-auto trans-sonic yo!
100 years ago the US Army tested the prototype Garand which was in .276 Pederson...which is surprisingly similar to the Fury. Amazing that something 'new' is just an admission that mistakes were made in the distant past. Nothing new under the sun indeed.
Yes, as a former teenage gun nut in the 80s, and now still a casual fan, I see nothing but rehash of old designs and calibers. Sure there's been a few innovations here and there,but no matter how many rails amd accessories you put on an AR, it's still a near 60 year old rifle.
I seriously doubt the 277 Fury will go anywhere except maybe as a sniper round. As for infantry, it will fail for the same reasons the M-14 failed. Some people at the top forgot the lessons of Vietnam.
@@PassivePortfolios Viet what? All they know is whoever developed this rifle gave them a vacation in Hawaii, so they got the contract
@@SlearBlaneheart Corruption at the DOD?! Retired generals as lobbyists?! The infantry guys should be evaluating this stuff not the REMFs.
Simply put, it’s new
Love you guys, thanks for the amazing information!!! Yall rock
This really is the best gun channel on this platform.
Awesome, Id love to get one.
Thanks for making my Sunday Michael
10:27 Charlie almost died by being down range
Yeah, definitely got the call.
Thank you for shooting extended ranges!
When the government needs a round to defeat civilian body armor the industry doesn’t disappoint.
"That'll pop up right here"
I don't know how many times you've said that and equally how many times it hasn't happened and I'm pretty confident Micah just does it out of pettiness.
The narrator's asides are distracting.
I loved the photo, micah. Truly an editor of all time
I finally learned what BC stands for.
'Bility to Carry through the air!
Thank you for sharing this video with us ❤
3000 fps from a 13" barrel.. :O
Very much waiting for you to get your hands on one of these btw
50+ grains of pistol powder
3300 fps out of 20” barrel, maybe??
20 is king
A video about body armor that you find on Timu, or any cheap/knockoff body armor you find on the internet, would be an interesting video.
Very awesome!
Charlie will never get old.
Just increasingly more unhinged.
@@MiaogisTeasand I’m here for it
His first few appearances he was trying for cringe funny and it came off as obnoxious and distracting, but lately he's been great.
That's called "dying young".
This comment has stolen his ability to age. He is now cursed to watch everyone he ever knows die around him.
I love these videos very informant plus love how charlie just wonders in the background doin random stuff lol great videos
Get well soon!
The.276 Pederson came full circle and was resurrected as the .277 Fury with better powder and better bullet construction! The bullet smiths in 1923 saw the ballistic performance that was possible and is now realized in the .277 Fury. What a great round!
Oohhh, nice call back.
Yes, but you could only get 2600fps out of the old 276 Peterson and its a SR25/Ar10 size case length cartridge with its 125gr projectile. The bullet is usually shorter and less areodynamic and doesnt do well at longer ranges but its not bad for most ranges. 276 Peterson does require a longer heavier barrel to be able to achieve its velocity. The 6.8/.277 SIG Fury round Also has a maximum overall length of 2.83 inches. This means it Also, will load and feed from any 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 Winchester) detachable-box magazine. Its moving a slightly lighter 113 grain bullet at almost 3100fps in full auto. Its also a more modern bullet that is longer nd sleeker and higher BC and has better wind bucking ability at longer ranges. Unfortunately these cant be made to fit in the older longer cases like the 308 and the 276 Peterson. It would be so far back in the case it would be horribly inefficient. That is why all these newer cartridge designs have shorter, fatter cases, and longer slippery bullets doing about the same speed as cartridges of older times. Of course they also increased the case pressure pretty massively on the new steel base/brass sidewalled case to be able to do this in such a short package with a short barrel. Just look at todays cartridges and stand them next to a comparable one of 50-100 yrs ago and you can see it. Today we can get an off the shelf, 6mm ARC, Ar15/M4 with its smaller shorter rifle, much lighter weight to carry, and a much shorter 2.26" max OAL length 6mm arc round, and it can shoot a 103-108 grain at 2800 fps. The weight savings of ammo and rifle alone would be quite huge today. That is what helps armies move as we know via 5.56 all these years. Yes, the Peterson was a fine Ar10/Sr25 2.8" ish length round, but was never adopted in its day 100 yrs ago sadly.
I loved the testing with the armor. Thanks!!
1:53 hahaha 😆 Excellent real world advice from Charlie (as usual!)
Hey Mike jones I been a big fan of your videos and I was wondering if you can do a video about the .338 specter round for one of your future videos 🙏🏼
Sorry i mean .338 spectre
a million views in 2 days is pre-tty guuud. Appreciate your channel
Charlie with the "gel nipple twists" peak dark humor. 👌
Best video I've seen for a while, nice one lads
Looks to be a very impressive round. Might have to make another rifle.
I really hope this 277 Fury round catches on and becomes popular. If they start chambering it and building it in bolt action deer hunting rifles then it probably will.
1: Norwegian Pattern Pants 👌
2: Such an awesome round and would have loved to try it out myself
3: Would love to see you test the 7.5FK Brno Pistol round
Swedish actually