@@jeffthemercenary Its really the only clan that benefited the most on the long term. Today many of the rich and successful people of Kyushu are members of the Shimazu clan and along with the Date clan they are the only two clans that still exist from that time
@@Edax_Royeaux last samurai is heavily based on the Satsuma rebellion, which is set 200 years after the sengoku jidai and few years after the boshin war (civil war in general term)
@@Mo-ir3qz Takeda's defeat was them charging into a wall of Tokugawa's gunners at the Battle of Nagashino. Best horseman of Japan getting shot down as the Takeda's meets the end of their era in the age of firearms.
More accurately takeda proudfully just charge into oda the oda waited for them to come into their range and the started fire guns into them from every part front left and right cause nobunaga oda wanted to end the old warfare with his new tactic of using muskets and he succeeded
Funfact: The only playable Shogun 2 Clans, which didnt survived the Sengoku Jidai were: Hojo, extinct by Toyotomi Hideyoshi Chosokabe, extinct by Tokugawa Ieyasu Ikko Ikki Otomo Takeda (at least as Daimyo) and the Hattori.
The Tokugawa introduced a system between Daimyos, which seperated between the Daimyo, who sweared allegiance before and after the battle of Sekigahara. Exemples of the latter were the Mori, the Shimazu and Uesugi.
Also historically Hattori was never an official lord (daimyo) in senkoku era. They were a major family among Iga ninjas, and was given title and land to become daimyo after supporting Tokugawa to establsih Shogunate.
@@datmedic2857 Otomo Sorin (the one who converted to christianity) made significant gains in the north of kyushu but his son was crushed by the shimazu. The Clan fell into obscurance. Its rumored that a few family members survived and became samurai servants. But the family was dead at least in the edo period for sure.
It be neat to have Otormo guns take out some monks only to be destroyed either by calvery or bows showing the old ways will always triumph over the new ways
The heroic and brave Date no dachi samurai after defeating all the swordsmen looking coldly at the archers accepting their fate knowing their fearsomeness sent a message to all.
It's my understanding many of the Christians that died in Japan at the end of the era were crucified upside down. I'm not certain if any Otomo clan members met that fate but I'm certain many of the Jesuits did.
Man, Date's sounds like he regrets not doing more to ensure the defeat of his enemies, he seems like a very dedicated leader and soldier. I feel your grief, Lord Masamune, the pain of losing an eye cannot compare to the total loss of everything one holds dear, rest in peace, great warrior. You can also bet the kaishaku was struggling to hold back tears in his eyes given how he had to kill such an exceptional man like Date the moment he felt extreme pain.
Shimazu, Date, and Uesugi: one last victory, before calmly facing their death. Takeda: "The Last Samurai" style. Should be a matchlock line instead of bow. Hattori (and Tokugawa): got bested at their own games. Mori, Hojo, and Ikko Ikki: just got destroyed. Chosokabe: your warriors got cut down when they fled. Shameful display. Otomo: not even allowed the dignity of a seppuku. and Oda: yari ashigaru make one last stand before the gate. Instead of charging at the yari wall, the enemy shower them with fire arrows, and only after that send in the samurai to kill off the survivor.
Everyone else whines about their own defeat. Oda clan commends their subordinates, even in defeat, and fears for their well being. One of these clearly deserved to guide Japan's future.
AzureSkyCiel to be fair Oda Nobunaga did historically guide japans history as the first great unifier of Japan and only failed to unite the entire nation out of betrayal by another Daimyo.
@@Prometheus-pl2sg True, it's a freaking shame he got backstabbed. Japan probably would have ended up pretty damn different seeing how tolerant and generally progressive Nobunaga was. Admittedly I believe his immediate successor (before Tokugawa) launched unsuccessful invasions of Korea based on Nobunaga's plans.
@@kaijuslayer3334 Nobunaga was famous for being progressive and quite tolerant and Honorable compared to the deceitful norm of being a Daimyo in Japan at the time. Unfortunately he is portrayed in media as a villain in his actions against the Ikko Ikki sect who were basically Japan's version of ISIS, an extremest sect of an otherwise peaceful religion. Ironically most Japanese still adhere to the Ikko sect of Buddhism to this day so obviously Nobunaga failed in destroying them.
My comment on your original video got a fair amount of likes so I might as well re-post that comment here: I can see my men Running from the battlefield A shamefur dispray
The Takeda defeat cutscene should've been a shout-out to the real-life Battle of Nagashino, the site of Takeda's famous defeat against the Oda clan where its mighty cavalry fell to the Oda's matchlock gunners. After that, the Takeda clan ceased to be a major power for the rest of the Sengoku period.
I need to add that one clan they omitted was the Toyotomi, he wasn't of noble birth but Toyotomi Hideyoshi was a hardy and determined warrior and did achieve as much as his foes so he should have received mention here.
@@SolProxy If they included the Siege Of Osaka in this game then yes there might be, that was where Tokugawa Ieyasu eliminated the last of the Toyotomi clan and became lord of all Japan so maybe they are here but not mentioned directly.
I wonder why their pikemen did not charge. I mean, if you're going to die in a volley of arrows, you might as well charge in and at least avoid the first volley, right?
@@Briselance Likely because there were so many enemies before them they couldn't even see the bows being notched until it was too late. It's also possible they don't charge out if they're the personal bodyguard of the daimyo. They often would stand their ground so they could catch any arrows or shot fired at their lord.
I’m imagining a scenario where the Mongols successfully invaded while simultaneously turning the Japanese clans against one another. Otomo was the only one to escape, while the Emishi stay isolated in the North.
Why I still sense laziness in these cutscenes Ik they at least upgraded the defeat scenes from worthless formed flag to some animations but these still suck
![NISAMANEE - TADA (ท้าดา) [ OFFICIAL MV ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hcQHEPMmJpU/mqdefault.jpg)
The Shimazu’s defeat is the embodiment of
“I tried so hard, and got so far. But in the end, it doesn’t even matter.”
*GRORIOUS DISPRAY!*
Ah... Linkin Park References...
The clan that go out most badass in my opinion
@@jeffthemercenary Its really the only clan that benefited the most on the long term. Today many of the rich and successful people of Kyushu are members of the Shimazu clan and along with the Date clan they are the only two clans that still exist from that time
@@NTLuck what about Oda , Tokugawa and Mori i hear they still exist is it true?
takeda defeat scene should had been charging into yari wall
Or historically, into a wall of gunfire a la Last Samurai.
@@Edax_Royeaux last samurai is heavily based on the Satsuma rebellion, which is set 200 years after the sengoku jidai and few years after the boshin war (civil war in general term)
@@Mo-ir3qz Takeda's defeat was them charging into a wall of Tokugawa's gunners at the Battle of Nagashino. Best horseman of Japan getting shot down as the Takeda's meets the end of their era in the age of firearms.
More accurately takeda proudfully just charge into oda the oda waited for them to come into their range and the started fire guns into them from every part front left and right cause nobunaga oda wanted to end the old warfare with his new tactic of using muskets and he succeeded
Or playing the country road song
Just noticed the kneeling Samurai at 1:04, glad to see the general did not die alone
probably praying
SHAMFUL DISPLAY
Funfact:
The only playable Shogun 2 Clans, which didnt survived the Sengoku Jidai were:
Hojo, extinct by Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Chosokabe, extinct by Tokugawa Ieyasu
Ikko Ikki
Otomo
Takeda (at least as Daimyo)
and the Hattori.
The Tokugawa introduced a system between Daimyos, which seperated between the Daimyo, who sweared allegiance before and after the battle of Sekigahara. Exemples of the latter were the Mori, the Shimazu and Uesugi.
Also historically Hattori was never an official lord (daimyo) in senkoku era. They were a major family among Iga ninjas, and was given title and land to become daimyo after supporting Tokugawa to establsih Shogunate.
Damn, I really wished for the first christian Shogun
Wikipedia doesn't say anything about the Otomo being whipped out
@@datmedic2857 Otomo Sorin (the one who converted to christianity) made significant gains in the north of kyushu but his son was crushed by the shimazu. The Clan fell into obscurance. Its rumored that a few family members survived and became samurai servants. But the family was dead at least in the edo period for sure.
0:57 I always get mad at my troops for running away but now I see their perspective lol
Otomo doesn't have a defeat cutscene because they're christian, which means they got executed instead of doing seppuku. Am i right?
They don't have a defeat cutscene because they were a DLC faction, I think.
@@FeCyrineu hattori and ikko is DLC too lol
@@averagecalisthenicsguy1504 Oh yeah. I wonder why they didn't make a defeat cutscene for them?
@@FeCyrineu Ikki Ikki and hattori scene are copied from Tokugawa and uesugi
@@thewanderingdoomed4883 no. Ikko Ikki is more different from Uesugi's.
Imagine having a defeat cutscene
-this comment was made by the Otomo gang
Yes but it had IT could have been just gunners being stupid and stuff
But what would it be? Killed by charging ashigarus while reloading? It would look weird🤷🏻♀️
@@astray032 nah mabey gunners poweder exploding or friendly fire mixed whit a cav charge
I like to imagine Otomo just pavks up and leaves with the euroes
It be neat to have Otormo guns take out some monks only to be destroyed either by calvery or bows showing the old ways will always triumph over the new ways
The heroic and brave Date no dachi samurai after defeating all the swordsmen looking coldly at the archers accepting their fate knowing their fearsomeness sent a message to all.
They were so scared of Date they stopped sending duelists and killed him with arrows 😂
Damn, White Clan have possible on of the best bow units in the game
I think it`s rebels. Their units have similar skins😂
the otomo's defeat cutscene should've been beheading all otomo people and armies because of christianity
It's my understanding many of the Christians that died in Japan at the end of the era were crucified upside down. I'm not certain if any Otomo clan members met that fate but I'm certain many of the Jesuits did.
I wondered why this was suddenly harder to find.
same😂
Yup
Probably because of all the sudokus and haikus, TH-cam does not like "violence".
Man, Date's sounds like he regrets not doing more to ensure the defeat of his enemies, he seems like a very dedicated leader and soldier. I feel your grief, Lord Masamune, the pain of losing an eye cannot compare to the total loss of everything one holds dear, rest in peace, great warrior. You can also bet the kaishaku was struggling to hold back tears in his eyes given how he had to kill such an exceptional man like Date the moment he felt extreme pain.
Isn't his father the leader in this game?
@@SolProxy I think so? Maybe, I don't see anything that would suggest this but I might be overlooking some aspects.
It’s his granddad who leads the Date, Masamune was born two decades after the start date so he doesn’t exist in the game
@@SolProxy What RyangMari just said, it's his grandfather.
@@RyangMari Thank you for sharing this information with us, Ryang, I never knew it was Date's grandfather before the man himself was ever born.
The Oda cutscene should be Oda Nobunaga and his son committing seppuku in a temple with fighting and fire outside.
And betrayed by a man named akechi mitsuhide?
Yes
But Nobunaga isn't the clan leader at the beginning.
"Ran, don't let them come in."
3:04 [Nobunaga Like This]
DUDE-
Shimazu, Date, and Uesugi: one last victory, before calmly facing their death.
Takeda: "The Last Samurai" style. Should be a matchlock line instead of bow.
Hattori (and Tokugawa): got bested at their own games.
Mori, Hojo, and Ikko Ikki: just got destroyed.
Chosokabe: your warriors got cut down when they fled. Shameful display.
Otomo: not even allowed the dignity of a seppuku.
and Oda: yari ashigaru make one last stand before the gate. Instead of charging at the yari wall, the enemy shower them with fire arrows, and only after that send in the samurai to kill off the survivor.
Everyone else whines about their own defeat.
Oda clan commends their subordinates, even in defeat, and fears for their well being.
One of these clearly deserved to guide Japan's future.
AzureSkyCiel to be fair Oda Nobunaga did historically guide japans history as the first great unifier of Japan and only failed to unite the entire nation out of betrayal by another Daimyo.
@@Prometheus-pl2sg True, it's a freaking shame he got backstabbed. Japan probably would have ended up pretty damn different seeing how tolerant and generally progressive Nobunaga was. Admittedly I believe his immediate successor (before Tokugawa) launched unsuccessful invasions of Korea based on Nobunaga's plans.
AzureSkyCiel To be fair. Nobunaga was more infamous for being the type to kill opposition. Tokugawa typically preferred other techniques.
Tokugawa
@@kaijuslayer3334 Nobunaga was famous for being progressive and quite tolerant and Honorable compared to the deceitful norm of being a Daimyo in Japan at the time. Unfortunately he is portrayed in media as a villain in his actions against the Ikko Ikki sect who were basically Japan's version of ISIS, an extremest sect of an otherwise peaceful religion. Ironically most Japanese still adhere to the Ikko sect of Buddhism to this day so obviously Nobunaga failed in destroying them.
Blood stains my hands
Not just my own, others too.
Winter in(?) my soul
That one was _so close_ to being a proper Haiku like the others. Only one syllable short on the first line
My comment on your original video got a fair amount of likes so I might as well re-post that comment here:
I can see my men
Running from the battlefield
A shamefur dispray
Bright and cold, the flash of steel.
Alone I roam over desolate field.
My sword I need no longer.
The evening wind will carry me home.
5 - 7 - 5 !
@@jasperzanovich2504 po - et - ry !
@@лалкааутист Haiku!
@@jasperzanovich2504 Just as I said. Sodium chloride...
@@tomh4754 Google it, misha.
The Takeda defeat cutscene should've been a shout-out to the real-life Battle of Nagashino, the site of Takeda's famous defeat against the Oda clan where its mighty cavalry fell to the Oda's matchlock gunners. After that, the Takeda clan ceased to be a major power for the rest of the Sengoku period.
2:40
For some reason, this gives me fire nation victory vibes
The sudden music beat drop that was common in Avatar when the enemy (Fire Nation) suddenly appear
the beat drop is indeed the main reason, but getting bombarded by fire arrows also helps the "atmosphere"@@dauzlee2827
I need to add that one clan they omitted was the Toyotomi, he wasn't of noble birth but Toyotomi Hideyoshi was a hardy and determined warrior and did achieve as much as his foes so he should have received mention here.
There are no Toyotomi in this game.
@@SolProxy If they included the Siege Of Osaka in this game then yes there might be, that was where Tokugawa Ieyasu eliminated the last of the Toyotomi clan and became lord of all Japan so maybe they are here but not mentioned directly.
Takeda cutscene definitely should have been charging against Oda rifle fire.
would've been historically accurate too lol
What's up with archers?
The Samurai were mostly archers more then anything
Samurai started out mostly as archers and horse archers, in later periods they were just another noble class
Guess the game was trying to tell us the Chosokabe were the best clan to use.
How do you make cut scenes look good in the game
I love their haiku
Oda clan's so sad
I wonder why their pikemen did not charge. I mean, if you're going to die in a volley of arrows, you might as well charge in and at least avoid the first volley, right?
@@Briselance not work with bow samurai
@@Briselance Likely because there were so many enemies before them they couldn't even see the bows being notched until it was too late. It's also possible they don't charge out if they're the personal bodyguard of the daimyo. They often would stand their ground so they could catch any arrows or shot fired at their lord.
Why always the bow and arrow killing them!
Because they were historicly very good at killing fast ussaly hand to hand lasts a bit longer
Then in fact archers are the weakest unit against the Takeda cavalry.
I think it’s almost demonstration of how no matter how valiant and skilled the soldiers are, a volley of arrows will kill you the same way.
Why don't i have defeat scene for ikko ikki and hattori? I have its dlc but there are no cinematics for their defeats...
what is the music that plays on the Date one?
I'm like all clan defeat cutscenes but not Tokugawa clan
Tokugawa clan wins
Ninjas were too smart to fall into such trap.
actually The Mori part is not a Defeat Cutscene by the way, it's the whole campaign
Hey, the Uesugi Haiku has too many syllables in the second line!
The Otomo have no cutscene cause the Otomo know no defeat.
Where is the defeat for the clans supporting the Emperor?
is Tokugawa's scene just copied from Hattori or its here by mistake?
They have the same scene in the game, yeah
2:29 I thought he could do Naruto run.. 😅😅😂😂 Avoid all projectiles.. 😅😅😂😂
Soundtracks? 👍🍻🇨🇭
I’m imagining a scenario where the Mongols successfully invaded while simultaneously turning the Japanese clans against one another. Otomo was the only one to escape, while the Emishi stay isolated in the North.
Where otomo?
It's a DLC clan, they didn't make one of these for them.
Takeda, the final heroic charge.👏
Why I still sense laziness in these cutscenes Ik they at least upgraded the defeat scenes from worthless formed flag to some animations but these still suck
Uhh... use English next time
Kaiju Slayer333 your understanding is enough
Hojo? Dont u mean Japanese Hyrule?
Not trying to be racist.
Pretty sure the legend of Zelda is just Nintendo living out their Hojo fantasies
@@shanedoesyoutube8001Legend of Zelda is just Hojo propaganda