You can own a belt fed, (M249S and Fightlite MCR, featuring kit setup)

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  • Semi automatic belt feds are an interesting topic within the non-governmental gun world. Often overlooked I find them to be a compelling choice in many ways for the average larper for a large numbers of reasons that we'll delve into in this video. Today we go over the M249S and the Fitelight MCR, both semi automatic belt fed weapons that feed using M27 links.
    00:00 Belt fed sick montage
    01:12 You can own a belt fed
    2:44 Why own a belt fed?
    5:31 our friendly professional belt fed man joins us
    08:22 tips and tricks for the M249S
    16:59 Fightlite MCR
    21: Practical shooting demonstration
    23:50 Belt fed kit setup
    26:30 Dad advice
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    These are semi automatic weapons utilizing 25 round magazines/belts. All shooting was conducted on a closed private range.

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  • @psychospazz64
    @psychospazz64 ปีที่แล้ว +2506

    The fact that Micah bleeped everything out but left In John saying fuck the atf is hilarious

    • @brandonrupp5880
      @brandonrupp5880 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      That crow is super annoying.

    • @tunasandwich8049
      @tunasandwich8049 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      It is law to show disdain against the atf

    • @maxcullen3427
      @maxcullen3427 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeedy

    • @chanthemaniscool
      @chanthemaniscool ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@tunasandwich8049 yep. fookin baby burners bro

    • @JTeam45
      @JTeam45 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's an important message, after all

  • @nicks9541
    @nicks9541 ปีที่แล้ว +2128

    Garand Thumb- You can own a belt fed!
    My bank account- You cannot own a belt fed.

    • @sparusau4108
      @sparusau4108 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why do you american buy this type of guns? Isn't an AR15 enough for self defense? Why do you need an M249?

    • @rokpepeshogun
      @rokpepeshogun ปีที่แล้ว +80

      "You can not feed a belt fed" would be proper..

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Second amendment says yes, poverty says no...

    • @ProfessorShnacktime
      @ProfessorShnacktime ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@sparusau4108 Anything to even the playing field against a tyrannical government.

    • @TannerSwizel
      @TannerSwizel ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@sparusau4108 the 2A is more about defending ourselves against a tyrannical government or an enemy military that's foreign or domestic. Personal self defense is a secondary right protected by the 2A, but isn't explicitly stated. I won't argue whether or not they're necessary, because that's totally subjective until the day we may need it; hopefully that day never comes.

  • @macgyver5108
    @macgyver5108 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    Time stamps:
    1:29 caw
    1:33 caw
    4:31 caw
    6:17 caw
    7:15 "fondle your load-out"
    9:25 caw
    11:08 caw
    11:59 caw
    13:11 caw
    13:42 caw
    14:57 caw
    15:25 caw
    18:43 caw

    • @macgyver5108
      @macgyver5108 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Besides his skills with a 'SAW', John is also a quite skilled linguist, fluent in ALL the major "Corvid" dialects (including Crow, Raven, Cardinal, and ALL forms of Jay...)
      "CAW mutha HAWKRS!"

    • @cattfishh7331
      @cattfishh7331 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      hahahahahahahahahah, this is gold

    • @kooptepherMcScrungo
      @kooptepherMcScrungo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Caw.

    • @MRCHUPA
      @MRCHUPA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmaoooo caw!

    • @Yup78909
      @Yup78909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Severely underrated comment

  • @firefly9838
    @firefly9838 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    Owning a semi auto belt fed m249 is like owning a brand new Corvette with a four-cylinder from the 80s in it.

    • @relishcakes4525
      @relishcakes4525 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This is exactly my feelings on it. Why would you do this to yourself?

    • @dergunter1237
      @dergunter1237 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      someone finally said it. Its strange how all those gun channels try to normalize the infringement on rights just so they can run their advertisement gigs

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dergunter1237 that's very true...

    • @EasyChuckX
      @EasyChuckX ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I saw a few 249’s at a gun shop and the kids behind the counter said we could make it full auto for a $200 tax stamp 😂. Sign me up! I’d wager a full auto saw running $50k or more.

    • @matthewmunger8792
      @matthewmunger8792 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They need to ride the fence so they can get their shmeckles

  • @AsianWithHat
    @AsianWithHat ปีที่แล้ว +5750

    If you've ever watched a review on a rifle you can never afford and have, just stop being poor and hit the subscribe button.

    • @LiveLaughLarp69420
      @LiveLaughLarp69420 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Hhahahahahaha

    • @LiveLaughLarp69420
      @LiveLaughLarp69420 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @asianwithhat You going to the 5k run and gun at bsr?

    • @nck4888
      @nck4888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As soon as you stop sucking the boot ,but that'll never happen y'all service s love the shoe polish

    • @kevinterrell9849
      @kevinterrell9849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you're just going to cry and b1tch why do you keep watching AsianKarenWithHat?

    • @mariozimmermann7307
      @mariozimmermann7307 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      😂 Greetings from Germany.

  • @shanemedeiros3227
    @shanemedeiros3227 ปีที่แล้ว +2132

    Fightlite MCR with forced reset trigger is the stuff ATF's nightmares are made of

    • @BNatoAk
      @BNatoAk ปีที่แล้ว

      F### the AFT

    • @kmb96
      @kmb96 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      That’s the next nfa nut kicker I want to build, had this idea since I first saw the MCR a while ago

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You ain't kidding.

    • @alexandersilver9842
      @alexandersilver9842 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      🤫

    • @TexasTabla
      @TexasTabla ปีที่แล้ว +5

      for sure

  • @b00mh34d5h07
    @b00mh34d5h07 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    John: "...Not as applicable on the S version because it fires from the closed bolt to begin with."
    Garand: "Or with a little bit of crime, it could be"

    • @Psychedelic_Cowboy
      @Psychedelic_Cowboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How hard do you think it would be to do it effectively? My dog wants to know. 🤔

  • @michaelsantoro170
    @michaelsantoro170 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    For those who are wondering, the m249s sells from anywhere between 9,400-12,500 regularly. Yes, you can absolutely own a belt fed saw, and if you have the means to do so and have a dedicated SAW in your arsenal- God bless- but a well sorted ar is probably going to be more useful and cost efficient.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว

      True, at least until we get full autos. And technically, I bet you we could convert this m249 in about 10 minutes to fully auto if we had to. That being said, it would be nice if every one was just sold full auto like the founding fathers intended in the bill of human rights our federal government is grossly violating and thus enslaving us

    • @punjabiplug2823
      @punjabiplug2823 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      So you’re telling me I can buy a bulky belt fed in only semi auto for the same price as a pre ‘86 Uzi in full auto? I think the choice here is obvious

    • @banic8576
      @banic8576 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@punjabiplug2823 Find me a transferable uzi for $9400 and I’ll add you to my Trust.

    • @josephfigueroa3527
      @josephfigueroa3527 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@Punjabi Plug you can make that belt fed full auto with minimal work, while the Uzi is still dogshit.

    • @punjabiplug2823
      @punjabiplug2823 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@banic8576 If it’s any consolation buddy, there’s a Full auto Transferable Uzi on Gunbroker for little more than 12,500. Don’t bother adding me to your trust though, I doubt you’re worth much of anything 😢

  • @Andrew-jm4tp
    @Andrew-jm4tp ปีที่แล้ว +849

    John's facial expression is what you want in a machine gunner.

    • @bigdan7489
      @bigdan7489 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that dude has literally killed a bunch of people. You can tell from his cold dead eyes.

    • @NevadaMirage
      @NevadaMirage ปีที่แล้ว +252

      John's facial expression is when a machine gunner is forced to shoot a semi-auto weapon.

    • @daviddrago9360
      @daviddrago9360 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NevadaMirage lmao😂😂😂😂

    • @joesutinen7705
      @joesutinen7705 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Resting hate face 😂

    • @SteveKurtzJr
      @SteveKurtzJr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Haha my thoughts exactly!!

  • @TeletubbiesRcute
    @TeletubbiesRcute ปีที่แล้ว +6272

    My guns aren't limited by their ammo and heat capacity, they're limited by my wallet

    • @michaelcabada2933
      @michaelcabada2933 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Get a better wallet

    • @weeznaz8195
      @weeznaz8195 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      that thumb nail is hilarious. I almost got out the fly swatter.

    • @inthego
      @inthego ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@michaelcabada2933 learn to code

    • @jw5297
      @jw5297 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Amen

    • @ericsfishingadventures4433
      @ericsfishingadventures4433 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Your not alone brother. I just buy a box of freedom seeds and equipment every chance I get. Not all of us are rich and families and bills to pay.

  • @ferratilis
    @ferratilis ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I carried a M249 SAW for about 2 years in the USMC, and I had a lot of fun with that thing. It's been a while now, but it rarely jammed or had trouble feeding. The only not so fun part was running around with a SAW and 1000 rounds of ammo on you. Of course, I got rid of half of that as fast as I could before starting with the "proper" 8 round burst.

  • @darrellseike3185
    @darrellseike3185 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    John freakin' ROCKS! Please bring him back for other videos. This was a GREAT video that opens up a new world of capabilities to civilians that is an order of magnitude beyond the typical M-4, AK-47/74!

  • @PhobiaJunior
    @PhobiaJunior ปีที่แล้ว +1750

    John just casually disregarded the entire “can’t swear it’s a family channel” and we love him more for it.

    • @mikepaoletta9847
      @mikepaoletta9847 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was like “oh fuck, my bad. Shit I did it again! Fuck I can’t fucking stop now! Fuck the ATF 😂

    • @lance8859
      @lance8859 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      My family curses.

    • @tcanders123
      @tcanders123 ปีที่แล้ว

      You love a psychopath?

    • @PhobiaJunior
      @PhobiaJunior ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tcanders123 yes

    • @smolsnek3835
      @smolsnek3835 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A family that handles itself with kiddy gloves like that is weak and boring

  • @Some_old_viking
    @Some_old_viking ปีที่แล้ว +398

    “With a little crime, it can be” this is my new life slogan.

    • @warrenharrison9490
      @warrenharrison9490 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Need a t-shirt

    • @rtaylor1105
      @rtaylor1105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

    • @TheMarcosvolta
      @TheMarcosvolta ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what happened to backing the blue? lol

    • @buddy3852
      @buddy3852 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheMarcosvolta The blue don't mind as long as you're not shooting it at them

    • @Battlefield1365
      @Battlefield1365 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@TheMarcosvolta Backing the blue is cringe

  • @jthetunes1
    @jthetunes1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I won an MCR on a GunBroker auction a few years ago and it's absolutely my favorite rifle. It was a quick 24-hour auction and I was the only bidder. It came with about 10K worth of extra stuff. Dozen brand new 100 and 200 nut sacks, two adapters the one you guys had and a side feed adapter for tripod or if you wanted to vehicle mount it and 10000 links. Had 50 rounds fired through it and looked like the gun was never fired when I got it. Paid 3200 guy had to sell it because he was moving to Hawaii and his gun collection was the last thing left in the house he was selling and couldn't take it with him. My local gun shop I transferred it through couldn't believe it.

    • @Trasky_UK
      @Trasky_UK ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ive never been more depressed as an Englishman

    • @anthonyolson469
      @anthonyolson469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Trasky_UK I truly feel sad for our.across the pond brothers. How did it come to be this way for you lot. Stupid shit happens here,but I can't even imagine. Love from the US.

    • @anthonyolson469
      @anthonyolson469 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats on your rig. I've now heard another awesome auction account.

    • @bigpapi6688
      @bigpapi6688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn!! Congrats, sounds sick

    • @cathview3837
      @cathview3837 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@anthonyolson469 The Hungerford massacre in 1987

  • @andrewbolin6065
    @andrewbolin6065 ปีที่แล้ว +941

    Please bring this guy back. The ATF comment in minute 12 was pure gold.

    • @JDs_RandomHandle
      @JDs_RandomHandle ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I didn't even catch that first go lol.

    • @n8strength
      @n8strength ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Was weird that they let that fly and every other cuss word got bleeped. When did they start censoring anyway? I really liked that they didn’t before

    • @wallyhiggens5369
      @wallyhiggens5369 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@n8strength that was a deliberate slip for sure lol.

    • @austins6746
      @austins6746 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      regiment dudes never disappoint

    • @smctrout4423
      @smctrout4423 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ATF is the acronym for Automatic Transmission Fluid.

  • @mojaeger85
    @mojaeger85 ปีที่แล้ว +1142

    After being a M249 gunner in the army I gotta say.. it's so painful to see you have to squeeze the trigger for each shot. 😢

    • @GruesomePizza1992
      @GruesomePizza1992 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      I would have not carried it if it didn't spit 880 rounds of freedom per minute 😂

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@GruesomePizza1992 listen bro if as much money was pumped into a device that blinded to the trigger that could spin a little bar that goes left and right 880 times per minute it would be even better than normal full auto. You could adjust the fire rate down and burn the ammo half as fast, 1/4 as fast, 1/8th as fast. If it was a smooth dial you could tweak the friend rate to even the smallest bit to get it exactly where you want. Take it off your gun if you have to abandon it and give it to the bad guys so they're stuck butchering a piece of junk to try to get it to start burning ammo at max speed. You throw it on the Glock, throw it on the AR, throw it on the semi auto shotgun if your nuts. Built to last so the scars don't kill it

    • @smokingcrab2290
      @smokingcrab2290 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Would actually be great if it was auto but had a slower rate of fire.

    • @ericyoungoc
      @ericyoungoc ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was a SAW gunner in the Marine Corps infantry.., it pains the crap out of me to see this

    • @EckRD
      @EckRD ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ericyoungoc Yeah the ones I had were hand me down POS. The 240B was the go to suppressive machine gun instead. Heavy, but it worked on the range and outside the wire most of the time.

  • @DesertDweller1776
    @DesertDweller1776 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    0:41 Damn, that reload was smooth

  • @ScottishAlaskan77
    @ScottishAlaskan77 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember way back in 1995 when I joined the Army and was handed my 1st M249 saw... I remember reading "U.S. Machine Gun" stamped on the receiver and the feeling of badassness lol.

  • @StandorFall13
    @StandorFall13 ปีที่แล้ว +1231

    John is definitely the look of almost every SAW gunner.

    • @StandorFall13
      @StandorFall13 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@nullface_YT all that he needs is a just in regs low fade, and just out of regs stash.

    • @benl3858
      @benl3858 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Looks like he eats crayons when no-one is looking

    • @tom-vf1xv
      @tom-vf1xv ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The tank role

    • @murkyturkey5238
      @murkyturkey5238 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      His reload in the intro was smooth

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walking brick shit house..

  • @ballerrdj
    @ballerrdj ปีที่แล้ว +280

    How crisp that gunner’s reload shows how much time he’s spent on that wonderful freedom machinery.

    • @phillxor
      @phillxor ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He has no need for the sleight of hand perk.

    • @hillsideheathen5267
      @hillsideheathen5267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "The Freedom Machine" lol I love it. I need one, or six.

  • @DS-rx3up
    @DS-rx3up ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I loved the SAW. When going on over watches it was reassuring to have a gunner with you, in case you needed the firepower. The 556 doesn't punch through shit like 762 or of course 50 cal. But it kept peoples heads down and in urban environment really did work. Good on Garand to get John on the show.

  • @MarthaParker-hj2yf
    @MarthaParker-hj2yf ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved how John explained the SAW and shared his know how!

  • @am-reconvlogchannel7278
    @am-reconvlogchannel7278 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    The fact that Fightlight uses a standard AR lower means you can easily add all kind of fun accessories that make it more fun in times of red dawn situation

    • @fudaldeath
      @fudaldeath ปีที่แล้ว +64

      And a binary trigger in less shtf times

    • @jamesdendy6384
      @jamesdendy6384 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@fudaldeath I thought the same thing. I'd pay up for that combo

    • @MrTak44
      @MrTak44 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes and the fact you can 3D print a binary or frt is just gravy.

    • @flannel_bois_inc
      @flannel_bois_inc ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@fudaldeath i have a mcr with binary lower and its cash money

    • @bradjohnson5323
      @bradjohnson5323 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Also means you can have the upper shipped righted to you door with no ffl

  • @SonOfGalactus
    @SonOfGalactus ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I gotta say, John is maybe the most stoic man I've seen in years. That man has been to hell and told the Devil to hold his beer....
    edit: the more I watch John, the more I like him :)

  • @hotrodsather
    @hotrodsather ปีที่แล้ว

    Good advice John, knowing and acknowledging you limitations and not trying to fake t to impress people.

  • @Atravis02
    @Atravis02 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Random SAW Tip: When loading from the bipod pivot the gun toward your right shoulder to allow gravity to hold the rounds in the correct place on the feed tray while you slap it closed.
    Hit that subscribe button for more EIB tips and you might be a Go at this station.

    • @Trevor20113
      @Trevor20113 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Big facts, no slamming your fingers under the feed tray cover.

    • @rem308ca
      @rem308ca ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well done Sir

    • @camerongunn7906
      @camerongunn7906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Running True Blue I see.

    • @Atravis02
      @Atravis02 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camerongunn7906 Blade runner. I put the sights down on the AT4 before placing on safe….

  • @awhs5435
    @awhs5435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Real talk, This is one of the best channels online, period.

  • @13tucker45
    @13tucker45 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John, I feel you on that dad advice. The Corps caused lots of explative experience, and I have yet to learn a PG replacement

  • @hoffmiermp
    @hoffmiermp ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The M249 was one of my favorite machine guns while in the service. It punished the hell out my right forearm with links and brass standing, but well worth it.

  • @davidsteward9580
    @davidsteward9580 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    "If you thought the PKM was the only belt fed machine-gun, go ahead and hit that like button"

    • @marcosanglade9858
      @marcosanglade9858 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The pkm is MY only belt fed machine gun, until the ATF finds out

    • @Fischbroetchen2k
      @Fischbroetchen2k ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@marcosanglade9858 I am sure that if that would be the case, you would´ve been going fishing with your buddy and sadly lost it during that.

    • @marcosanglade9858
      @marcosanglade9858 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Fischbroetchen2k yeah its funny, I didnt even like fishing that much until the ATF started showing me how much fun it was

    • @stg4478
      @stg4478 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have 3 DSA RPD carbine, wise light MG42 flightlite sbr 12" with a binary all fun to shoot

    • @Rustebadge
      @Rustebadge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These are not machine guns. But have fun anyway.

  • @II-tv1fc
    @II-tv1fc ปีที่แล้ว +219

    I dunno why but that reload just before the 1st minute was awesome. Unfortunate I've never seen a belt feed upper that wasn't over $1000

    • @PD-we8vf
      @PD-we8vf ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Try $7k.

    • @Poindogindustries
      @Poindogindustries ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That was a straight up call of duty reload. Seriously impressive.

    • @rtaylor1105
      @rtaylor1105 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      because it was...thats training and experience.

    • @grenmoyo3968
      @grenmoyo3968 ปีที่แล้ว

      and this at like 6k isnt one of them. lol

    • @jimclayron417
      @jimclayron417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1000? Lmao you must be coming from airsodt or sum

  • @saiga12forme88
    @saiga12forme88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you guys for the video, appreciate it.

  • @evulclown
    @evulclown ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baby faced assassin! John had some really good advice as a SAW operator, good choice having him on!

  • @marcmichaud1643
    @marcmichaud1643 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    I feel like owning a belt fed without the fun switch would taste luke warm. It's awesome but:
    I'd just be left wanting more.

    • @fewny2691
      @fewny2691 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      make the fun switch and if the ATF comes to your house, show them the fun switch

    • @syrup_710
      @syrup_710 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Binary trigger??

    • @Deadlyguy75
      @Deadlyguy75 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A forced reset or binary trigger would definitely help with this

    • @ghostpatriot2370
      @ghostpatriot2370 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get a metal clothes hanger lol

    • @xSP3CTREx
      @xSP3CTREx ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Free Men Don't Ask

  • @bloods9427
    @bloods9427 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    GT: This is a family-friendly channel, you can't swear.
    John: "So I started swearing."
    Such a lovely and friendly person.

    • @Wasattsi
      @Wasattsi ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My man John has a serious case of RBF haha. SMILE GODDAMNIT, WE HAVE FUN HERE.

    • @ru5ty829
      @ru5ty829 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not feeling his energy. Looks like he’s seen some shit and still recovering from it. Lmfao. F tier Garand Thumb guest
      Every time I hear a censor it makes me cringe a little more

  • @ccfmfg
    @ccfmfg ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mike, I wish You had covered Barrel Change Intervals and Mandatory Round Counts of the SAW vs. Flight-Lite MCR. Thanks for another Excellent Video.

  • @SamuTheFrog
    @SamuTheFrog ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude that things sounds awesome. I think thats gotta be one of my favorite gun sounds.

  • @MrKernkraft4000
    @MrKernkraft4000 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    John has this whole "Hello darkness, my old friend I've come to talk with you again" look about him the whole time as he stares off into the distance lol

    • @dennisorlovski9262
      @dennisorlovski9262 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      thats the PTSD

    • @ashiehakoto1490
      @ashiehakoto1490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he's seen some shit. and probably sunk a couple hundred rounds through it

  • @bw6618
    @bw6618 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    In the 90s USMC we still had many original 1980s M249s. At that time all we were issued was CLP for lube, though heavy guns got LSA. The SAWs of that era were roundly cursed by all users, though I discovered that using LSA and paying attention to the guide rod/recoil spring made everyone think I knew some kind of black magic; mine always ran great.

    • @TheTmshuman
      @TheTmshuman ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was in 07-11 and had a saw from the 80’s. Zero blueing left. Worn down firing pin etc. It was a huge POS.

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@TheTmshuman that's because the military loves you

    • @Tyler-vw9bh
      @Tyler-vw9bh ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I can confirm the USMC was still using CLP and LSA during the early 2010s lol

    • @TheTmshuman
      @TheTmshuman ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Tyler-vw9bh In south Korea one guy switched his buddies LSA for a “home brewed” batch and apparently it worked flawlessly, although it reportedly smelled suspicious. I wasn’t in a line company thank god. Leave it to Marines to be on the bleeding edge of industrial applied biochemistry…

    • @formdoggie5
      @formdoggie5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The biggest thing I found was to let the weapon fully cycle, letting all the masses come to a full stop.
      Its the people that pull the trigger, stop, and then pull the trigger again before everything in the gun stopped that always had problems.
      I painted mountains with my SAW, 240G/B, etc. Never had any issues, and I was definitely issued some shady ass weapons (like literally having a floating upper).
      Making sure your links were even was huge, too.

  • @sebastianrodriguezgomez5828
    @sebastianrodriguezgomez5828 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the color grading in this video, looks really nice

  • @michaelt.9372
    @michaelt.9372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 249s and I absolutely miss it. It fed like a champ.

  • @apollo3679
    @apollo3679 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I live in a pretty dope community. I have a local gun store and they get some amazing rifles in. Earlier this summer they had a 249s. Started talking to the shop manager and he said “we have 3 more in the back”. Came back 3 weeks later and they were all gone. I’ve seen barrels, scars, rattlers, honey badgers, and just a slew of amazing firearms. It’s awesome to know my community is stacked.

  • @gikrey
    @gikrey ปีที่แล้ว

    that reload in the beginning was so clean

  • @OlSgtLove
    @OlSgtLove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video and great information. Thankyou to you both .

  • @jasminebebe3455
    @jasminebebe3455 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I carried an M249 in 3/5 for my first couple years. I found it to be reliable and very effective. Carrying it sucked but it could lay down some hurt when needed.

    • @chairmanofthebored6860
      @chairmanofthebored6860 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *reliable needs citation.

    • @Tyler-vw9bh
      @Tyler-vw9bh ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Funny how the SAW is such a polarizing weapon. Dudes either love it or hate it. I was LAR so I only shot it in ITB (LAR had IARs by 2012 and each fireteam could carry the vic commanders 240 if they needed it). Seems like one's affinity towards the SAW was dependent on how well it was cared for with the occasional exception for guys who were issued a weapon beyond all hope.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I like the mcr because the regular magazine loading but it would be interesting if the mags you carried behind the nutsacks we're fatties also

    • @notalanrogers3173
      @notalanrogers3173 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chairmanofthebored6860 The 249 gets a bad rap just like the M9 and even M4s did before larpers accepted them. The 249s issued in the military ranged anywhere from brand new to absolutely fucking donked out and ancient, and generally, that's going to play a part in how they function, in addition to how they're employed and maintained.
      It's a good machine gun. The majority of arguments to the contrary are coming from those who have never seen one, let alone employed one.

    • @nust8235
      @nust8235 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey that’s the guy from Fortnite

  • @suboptimal2019
    @suboptimal2019 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    This guy is such a machine gunner.

    • @honestreviewer3283
      @honestreviewer3283 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does that even mean?

    • @suboptimal2019
      @suboptimal2019 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@honestreviewer3283 You’re obviously not a grunt.

    • @honestreviewer3283
      @honestreviewer3283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@suboptimal2019 No, but I've led lots of them. Never noticed a "machine gunner" type, just good soldiers, and soldiers that need more training.

  • @CallMeColtLLC
    @CallMeColtLLC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I built a 1919A4 w/ Crankfire for my trucks turret gun. It is actually a really effective setup for a "Semi auto" weapon. Tripod setup works very well too. The Semi auto M249 could easily fill that roll but I'm kind of a poor.

  • @picarso7630
    @picarso7630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love watching johns facial expressions through the whole video

  • @Larping101
    @Larping101 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    I work at an FFL. The FN249S is the most gawked at and touched firearm we have, the M107 is a close second. The $10,000 price tag on the FN makes it a wish list item though.

    • @Stephen85
      @Stephen85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same price as a blazer hunting rifle. If I could afford it I would have both.

    • @Cerra15601
      @Cerra15601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it!

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Despite only (currently) having access to a 25 yard indoor range with a caliber limit of ~.30-06, I find a .50 BMG rifle way more appealing than a semi auto Minimi.

    • @northwestgaming4049
      @northwestgaming4049 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I carried the 249 as an Infantryman and I still gawk at it to be honest. I am in love an want one to to have it.

    • @khantrollz5655
      @khantrollz5655 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@northwestgaming4049 military should let you keep the weapon you’ve trained and used.
      It would be cool that y’all are still armed and trained even once you’re relieved so we always have a strong militia

  • @Two_Names
    @Two_Names ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The MCR actually looks like a pretty great set of compromises to have a belt fed system for expected uses. Starting an engagement with 100-200 rounds linked and subsequent reloads from magazine to frontload firepower and still have a lighter package to scoot with. Great video gents.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean shoot bro, would be one expensive meltdown video

    • @rdf4315
      @rdf4315 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never heard of the MCR before this video but now after seeing it in action it has my attention because I came for the m240 but I stay for the MCR and it will go on my ever-growing wish list of guns that I hopefully will be able to get one day .

  • @user-cj7bt4xt7i
    @user-cj7bt4xt7i ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Guys like John are why I have absolute confidence in American troops.

    • @TWP13
      @TWP13 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Guys like John aren't joining anymore.

    • @Fall3nAng3ls
      @Fall3nAng3ls ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol ok buddy

    • @carsonhunt4642
      @carsonhunt4642 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Most troops spent couple hours max in basics at the range. 1 annual hour shoot. Average indoor gun range civi warrior has more experience than most military members.

    • @wolfsfroth
      @wolfsfroth ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Aaaand the leadership is why I have absolutely no confidence in the American military

    • @Matt-xc6sp
      @Matt-xc6sp ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@TWP13 guys like John are built by the service. It doesn’t matter who joins. Even if it’s Emma with the 2 moms, if they have the us flag on their sleeve they’re part of the best fighting force the world has ever seen

  • @ilovelamp61
    @ilovelamp61 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Garand Thumb and Make-A-Wish: The collab we never knew we needed.

  • @gmansk53
    @gmansk53 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thank God there's still people with enough balls to push back!

  • @timothy6672
    @timothy6672 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    excellent video- your guest wasnt a clown either- very squared away and knew his shit- more like this please

    • @n1663r
      @n1663r ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, a video l can fwd to people where it doesn't have some weirdo in a white coat acting like a downs tardy.

  • @gamez4420
    @gamez4420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Freedom Ordinance makes a 9mm Beltfed upper that's actually pretty nice. Haven't gotten much trigger time on one but the little bit I got it was a hell of a time

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Genuinely informative. The Army M249 school probably takes a week to get through in what you did in 26 minutes.

  • @domg6041
    @domg6041 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "Metal on metal" is pretty well how we were taught too. As for the reload, because of how the bipod is I always just sent the gun to the right so that gravity would help me feed the belt onto the tray. Did the same with the C6 (M240B for you guys down south).

  • @morgenreynolds3255
    @morgenreynolds3255 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Absolutely loved how John explained the SAW and shared his know how

  • @chefprepjustindieh
    @chefprepjustindieh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks boys great video, very informative like always. I know what I want for christmas

  • @tjreed1764
    @tjreed1764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always appreciate the NTC shout out🤘

  • @cuckertarlson3329
    @cuckertarlson3329 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As a veteran cod player I know all of those attachments decrease aim down sight time by a lot

    • @renzo7725
      @renzo7725 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dont worry he has ads increasing grip tape

  • @skydivingcomrade1648
    @skydivingcomrade1648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the raven bleeps

  • @ethantremblay1300
    @ethantremblay1300 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    John is cool as fuck. It would be great to see him on the channel a lot more often in the future. Dude is a legit machine gunner. Taught me something with the flathead.

  • @blackwater4100
    @blackwater4100 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:42 what a smooth reload. so satisfying

  • @pnw.paramotering3458
    @pnw.paramotering3458 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nothing scarier than a man with a highpoint 9mm in a minivan. That person clearly has nothing left to loose. The perfect deterrent in a shtf

  • @andyr3886
    @andyr3886 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Great way to get around magazine size restrictions 👌🏼

    • @johnnydoe7846
      @johnnydoe7846 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For now… till they realize that.

    • @jspec-vz3mc
      @jspec-vz3mc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gsst4013 yep.

    • @nymfan1990
      @nymfan1990 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Belts are sadly covered under their "ammunition feeding device" definition.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      for 6k it better be

    • @cletustheslackjawedyokel6083
      @cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly most states with AWB & mag restrictions ban belts too

  • @OvAffected
    @OvAffected 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think I should definitely get me one of these

  • @game5ma5her95
    @game5ma5her95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude that dad advice is right on the money

  • @Teleman01
    @Teleman01 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I remember talking to some Navy SEALs and they showed me their M249. They took off so many parts that it looked bastardized lol. But it made it a lot lighter to carry.

    • @RitmoXL
      @RitmoXL ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nice, very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s M249.

    • @dakiler2028
      @dakiler2028 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What parts did they remove? I was a MINIMI gunner in the Greek Army. We had the Para version with the collapsible stock, but was still a hefty beast.

    • @Teleman01
      @Teleman01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dakiler2028 I can't remember. These guys were just giving us a tour of their locker. I don't have any experience with that gun. I just remember thinking that it looked like it was being taken apart to be worked on, but they said that's the way they carried it lol. I Remember the hand guard and a few other parts. But what they were I don't know.

    • @kimjongun2536
      @kimjongun2536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seals actually did the same with the m60

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Teleman01
      Seals have some of the most hilarious fixes for things, from the "pirate gun" (sawed off m79) to them probably using a thin piece of aluminum to replace the top cover of a SAW. Literally, they do r3dn3ck fixes to things, but hey, if it works, it works.

  • @cryeordie
    @cryeordie ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Pretty cool seeing the detail about carrying a flathead. We would also carry a steel cleaning rod on our kit whenever we were gunning the .50 so we could use it to unjam stuck bolts. Great guests you're bringing on here GarandThumb.

    • @orangesodakiller7096
      @orangesodakiller7096 ปีที่แล้ว

      also good for getting out a 40mm from the bolt face of a mk19

  • @user-ed5ws2qp5k
    @user-ed5ws2qp5k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Garand this is your best video! M249 is my dream gun just like the SIG 552!

  • @jimsworthow531
    @jimsworthow531 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video and comparison on the workings of these systems; i have been wanting that belt system for a while; i want to build one with a heavy profile fluted barrel with a binary trigger; best to you guys; thanks.

  • @estrada20100
    @estrada20100 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love how he swears so naturally like using the word the or and. Being a saw gunner everything being said is completely accurate

  • @peterschmidt2849
    @peterschmidt2849 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Absolutely amazing…John is unimpressed just war face 😂🇺🇸🔥

  • @KeASiLeNT
    @KeASiLeNT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've used the saw a bit and never knew about using the starter like that I've definitely been removing them I had to get a muscle memory down pushing the belt in with a certain amount of pressure I memorized the hard way

  • @Notaghost603
    @Notaghost603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That reload was smooth

  • @elshootiboi1861
    @elshootiboi1861 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This man is truly a Master SAW man. There's always Civilian Carbine/pistol Courses dudes can go to or listen to to understand their weapon system better. There's no love for machine guns, and that leaves a hole in professional development of army machine gunners because everything they know is just what they learn from their unit. Need more better machine gun teachers on the internet.

  • @mikepaoletta9847
    @mikepaoletta9847 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Always loved the MCR concept. Would love to someday add it to the safe. Thanks for the great content as always GT!

  • @Bigshooterist
    @Bigshooterist ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love belt fed firearms. I've owned a Maxim MG08, an M60, a Colt Ciener Belt-Fed AR, a Tippmann 1919, a FightLite MCR, an Ares Shrike, a Valkyrie Armament BSR Mod 1, & a Slidefire Conversion AR15. My favorite will always be the M60, though the Shrike / MCR is *a bit* more practical, affordable and runs awesome. I'd LOVE to have a Stoner 63A, but the right opportunity hasn't presented itself. I'm happy to see proper attention to these on your channel. And just a pro tip, the Shrike / MCR runs awesome with a Fostech Echo. 😎🇺🇲👍🔥

  • @LadyGodiva-hi3ym
    @LadyGodiva-hi3ym ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the deep into music!

  • @charlesburr
    @charlesburr ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve got 2 Savior bags and am really happy with both of them, glad to see them on the channel

  • @Crackshotsteph
    @Crackshotsteph ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "You don't need to be a Yakuza to go to the Headquarters of the Yakuza. We need weapons right?"
    -Batou from Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence

  • @hgrueber38
    @hgrueber38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video like always! It would be cool to see some more unique handguns or shotguns!

  • @zilvinas82
    @zilvinas82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fantastic video!

  • @175dell
    @175dell ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Repurposing a Mio for lube is genius. I'm no stranger to repurposing Mio's but I only ever used them to get my troops attention (with water) in noisy situations where yelling is less likely to be heard. Depending on your grip you can get about 15ft of range out of a Mio. Haha

    • @thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436
      @thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's great😎💪🏻

    • @mrdark9916
      @mrdark9916 ปีที่แล้ว

      So let me get this right.... You're in the middle of a combat situation and you're out there spraying motherfuckers with water from a tactical mio....
      That's fuckin rad. 😂

    • @dylannix4289
      @dylannix4289 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      _”Tough talk for a guy within Mio range”_

  • @charliebarber479
    @charliebarber479 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    This is what our founding fathers would have wanted 💪

    • @charliebarber479
      @charliebarber479 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You better believe it. Power to the people.

    • @SevenHunnid
      @SevenHunnid ปีที่แล้ว

      I do food reviews while I’m high off zaza on my yöutube chånnel. I just quit my job to grind harder💯💯

    • @Isaac_5.56x45
      @Isaac_5.56x45 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Only if it was full auto suppressed and unregistered 🗿

    • @jonathanhughes1510
      @jonathanhughes1510 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Founding fathers would of wanted civilian m777a2’s

    • @TRUCKER_TRUCKER
      @TRUCKER_TRUCKER ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup... they wanted us to make sure only the government, and those the government approves, can own fully functional firearms..

  • @pantagruel1066
    @pantagruel1066 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SAW/ Botta botta jam. Is a nightmare of a weapon. On the few special missions I’ve been involved in, I carried one. But I’ve never been disappointed by said weapon. It mostly goes boom when it should. And the “tactical “ version improves on the original.

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease ปีที่แล้ว

    As a navy parachute rigger, I got the opportunity to qualify as a helicopter detachment gunner which carried two M-240. Door mounted in our newly delivered H-60S forward deployed on Guam.
    Very dependable. NATO ball, not so much. Easy to clean. Disassembly and reassembly is quick and painless.

  • @richthofen0005
    @richthofen0005 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Watching these videos make me so jealous, and just when I thought it couldn’t get any better you guys bring out the belt feds. I really do hope that I’ll one day get the chance to come over to the US, there’s so much that your country has to offer and I’d love to take it all in, god bless you all.
    🇺🇸🇬🇧

    • @Aidan-fw1xr
      @Aidan-fw1xr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greetings from podunk Missouri USA! 🇺🇸

    • @richthofen0005
      @richthofen0005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aidan-fw1xr Greetings buddy from the UK!

  • @JustJoshinSC
    @JustJoshinSC ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Great video. Almost lost an eye to a 249. Completely my fault. We went to the range and afterwards was cleaning time before we checked weapons back into the armory. My 249 was no ammo but charged. I dropped the butt stock and went to remove the firing pin that fits in the groves. I have know idea how I did it but Shreck hands here pushed the firing pin under full spring pressure out of the holding grooves. Did you know that a firing pin under full charge flies out of a 249 at a high rate of speed? Caught me on the eyebrow right side. Instant blood bath. I had to get 10 stitches in my eyebrow. 😂 worst part was they shaved my eyebrow to sew me up. So for like 2 months I had to look in the mirror at my singular brow and be reminded of how dumb I am. 😂

    • @honestreviewer3283
      @honestreviewer3283 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stupid.

    • @JustJoshinSC
      @JustJoshinSC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@honestreviewer3283 yeah wasn’t a bright moment but overall I think I’m fine. I have big gorilla hands and I perform feats of strength normal humans cant

    • @haroldhenderson2824
      @haroldhenderson2824 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sometimes safety glasses save more than your eyesight.

    • @dmoore5120
      @dmoore5120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cheap reminder! ;-)

    • @lukescutchings2661
      @lukescutchings2661 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had an injury like that but not from a cool belt fed rifle just some drunk dude who punched another drunk dude in the eye lol when my eye was black I could get away with keeping a bandaid over top of it but when I got the stitches out and had to have one eyebrow for a week or two lol it was embarrassing

  • @preacher19ttv98
    @preacher19ttv98 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need to do a video on the RPK modernized for the same role

  • @AJ_Sparten1337
    @AJ_Sparten1337 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    M249 for large scale battlefields and/or site security, MCR for urban CQC or shock unit type engagements.

  • @BallZakc
    @BallZakc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:22 every other curse word is bleeped other then “fuck the ATF”. Fucking love it

  • @tasjan9190
    @tasjan9190 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn Mike tell your boi to chill, his reload with that face and immediate continued fire sent a shiver down my spine and had me checkin' my property's perimeter...Jesus.

  • @thugginugly1941
    @thugginugly1941 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As a Civvy it’s scary when you accept the fact that humans will be at war with one another until the end of time. Training is necessary and I just started last year. This channel has gained me wealth of knowledge. Thanks GarandThumb 🙏🏻

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they will, unless they're no longer humans at some point (human-AI hybrid or some crazy poop). The left has trouble accepting this, but then again they really have issues with reality in general.

  • @danhill903
    @danhill903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved my saw and was thankful I joined after it replaced the M60

  • @lakemanson8051
    @lakemanson8051 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    0:55, the look of pure tenacity and focus, the KIA band, the busted and bloody knuckles. This should be on the cover of TIME Magazine.

    • @irma9495
      @irma9495 ปีที่แล้ว

      KIA band?

    • @Atravis02
      @Atravis02 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@irma9495 The black bracelet he is wearing will have someone’s name, location, and date they were killed in action. It’s a way to remember your buddies.

  • @aod3394
    @aod3394 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "ASSUALT SAW!"
    "YEAH ABSOLUTELY"
    Only time in the video John really lit up with "excitement"

  • @mamta6029
    @mamta6029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I admire this