@@amvlabs5339 in the lore they use other weapons as well as the smg. They only use SMGs in the game because they were supposed to be landing on the carrier and would be fighting in a cqb environment. Also, the game designers want ODST to be as visually different from the regular Halo games as possible.
I just want to take the time to thank YT for protecting my eyeballs from a very scary barrel change on a weapon I'll never use. I can feel the safety of this video all around me.
I think TH-cam decided they can actually do barrel changes, mag reloads, suppressor installs, and all the without penalty now. This video just came out before those rules got changed. I think it was 2 or 3 weeks ago they changed them?
As soon as I saw it was a MG video I was like "I hope they bring John back" and boom there he is. The way he stares in machinegunner at the SIG as everybody is talking is fantastic
it's because he has discipline and knows when not to interrupt someone else talking, he is not some joker pos like most of the youth being indoctrinated in woke retard schools. it's called manners.
It makes me really happy to see one of our service members benefiting from sharing his knowledge. I love that company reps come out to show their equipment to all of us. One thought I had that would have been a cool extra for this video, is if, you did some low light shooting with, and without the suppressor. It would be interesting to see the difference, especially from a downrange point of view. Great production, as always!
I was just here for the rake review, absolutely incredible durability and reliability, the rake simply refused to quit. The rake could collect millions of leaves with no malfunction, I’m sure it would still punch up and collect even larger yard waste like sticks and dog shit and still maintain function. What was sig there for.
@RandomInternet User bro garand thumb is a vet? i mean it more or less just seems like dudes being good friends, anyways. either way, im glad they did bring out the gun, its pretty cool.
The walk and shoot was hilarious, watching John twist and slow down from the recoil. Then Micah completely glued in place then as soon as he stops shooting, he springs forwards 😆
That gun looks like it was taken straight out of halo. I absolutely love it. The main reason I love it is because you can give it to a SAW gunner in a fireteam and have not only more firepower but also someone that can provide covering fire, take out vehicles, punch through cover, and even take out enemies at longer ranges. I think it’s more useful than the M240 for infantry because of its weight which is heavier than the M338 which allows SAW gunners to fire while they walk, meaning they can control their surroundings much more effectively so that not only the gunner but the other soldiers in that fireteam. In my opinion, the military should take it! If they use it right, they can have a lot of roles that they don’t have filled replaced by the SAW gunners.
Can we just put that gun in Halo already. I'm craving to see John 117 use it as his regular assault rifle. Perfect size and power for a Spartan. Absolutely savage!
SIGs contribution to the next gen weaponry, in the belt fed category especially, is admirable to say the least. It's really cool to see them make the leaps they've been making.
@@Carbidestruck I do wonder if there are 5.56 load/projectile combinations that will go through level 4 plates at 300 meter-ish combat ranges? I would imagine tungsten projectiles might do the trick without returning to using battle rifles.
@@zchen27 M855A1 Is really squeezing the limits out of the platform. And it's tearing up barrels lifespan. You need the velocity and the mass. I think the whole goal is to step well beyond what body armor will achieve for quite some time. Instead of a small incremental upgrade that can be defeated relatively easily. Remember Level IV is rated up to 30-06 AP, level threats. Getting 5.56 to that is a fools errand.
@@zchen27 I guess the purpose of the SIG is to offer overmatch capability, i.e 5.56 tungsten rounds can pen lvl 4 plates at typical combat distance, but the SIG is capable of penetrating future body armour developments. Furthermore the optic combined with the rifle should offer more range, increasing survivability, which is a serious priority. The question is wheter the 6.8 actually offers AP capability and wheter the increased engagement range offered by the optic materializes in actual combat.
The fact that John was able to walk and rip that 338 was damn near orgasmic. He made that look easy and everyone quickly learned it was only the fact that he's a beast. I hope our army picks this baby up and we'll have a new generation of Rambo. I hate to admit it but I've been simping so hard for sig these last few years. (Edit: typos from fat finger phone posts)
As a former machine gunner I would love to get this on a sustained fire kit. Damn you would have some punch and reach. Never thought of 338 in a mg before but when you look at what that round can do and the light weight of the platform it is a brilliant idea. 7.62 was deadly in urban areas, damn 338 would pound through walls like nothing was there. Just thinking about last time I provided covering fire with a mag58, two of these on tripods would be freaking devastating. 50 cal is great but the 126 lbs making it totally useless in the mountains or rough terrain in a dismounted role. Mg338 checks a lot boxes.
I know folks rag on Sig for being expensive pieces of hardware, but damn, the sheer amount of thought an innovation that seem to have gone into this whole project is astonishing and I have a lot of respect for their techs for really coming up with creative design elements and workarounds to modern combat gunner issues. It’s almost as astonishing as seeing John walking that 338.
I have a sig P320 the full size model ( cost me 500 dollars a few years back ) the first strike fire pistol I ever owned. People have given me grief over it at a local outdoor range where armalite style rifles are prominent.and for some reason the majority of pistols seen are the high end semiautomatics. Now my 320 has traditional iron sights. I was shooting at 10 and 25 yards. Offhand switching between my left and right hand some guys new to shooting (range master was constantly checking for safety concerns). had tricked out 9mm shooting at bowling pins set a 100 yards. At a break I asked how they were doing. They were not hitting anything. I asked if I could shoot at their bowling pins. Okay they said. So I got my 320 after the break and using 115 grain Winchester from a range pack. I proceed after one test shot to hit the bowling pins with 3 aimed shots but using the pole supporting the awning as a support. The range master chuckle. We had known each other for years. Both of use cut our teeth on the 1911A1 which we both shot expert with in the military. I like Sigs, Colts and for some reason taurus revolvers.
I bought an Audi 5000 turbo back when. Very nice engineering and lots of neat little perks. But so COMPLICATED and finicky that it cost me more in repairs and soul searching than it was worth. VERY nice when it DID function though.
The 338 projectile is indeed magical. I've hunted with the 338 Federal (308 Win necked up to a 338) for years and nothing hits harder with less meat destruction. Game rarely takes a single step before dropping. Very versatile, accurate and capable projectile. Amazing weapon system. Great video as always.
All im saying is the .50bmg barelt got started no way theyre repalcing it almsot no one owns any still its so expensive bit the bolt action game gas helped now yoh pay like 5k for the gun only the cost of a sweet used accord fuuuuuu
I was at Sig HQ last weekend and got to put hands on the M338 and it really is a badass weapon. The 240B will always have a place in my heart, but this thing has so many quality of life changes I didn't know I would have wanted back in the day as a machine gunner!
i mean yeah .50 cal is a literal anti-material round so i would like to see how it could do that. i’m sure that the military would love to put it between 7.62 and .50 like they touched on at the beginning of the video, but definitely not replacing it at all
I don't think the .50 will be replaced any time soon in the anti-material role, even if they do replace it Im sure they gonna hand that down to another division that needs it for its specific use, like how some special forces groups still use the m1911 or a 357 magnum
I dont think itll have any issues. most likely going to perform closer to a lapua. which will chew through them as well. and im sure the military will be running some hardcore ammo through those.
While the M7 (M5) doesn't appear to improve a lot over the M4 with the exception of single round stopping power (which to be fair, was the aim for SIG and the military), the M250 and M338 are massive improvements over the existing service machine guns, especially the M338 being that intermediate between the now M250 and the M2. Seeing it rip through that ballistics dummy was both impressive and low key horrifying
@@deadarashi6462 Colt released the M5 back in 2017, which was before the XM5 was adopted. Prior to that, the XM5 was simply Sig’s entry in the NGSW program (Didn’t have a numerical designation).
Just got rid of my first bucket list rifle, the M82A1, now I gotta get me one of these. Great video. Time to do some research as far as the Norma compared to the Lapua 338. Thanks for all this.
After watching this channel for like 5 years im glad that it’s growing and improving with each passing year. Hope you guys are around to teach my son about cool shit when he’s older 🤣
I think anyone who has had to carry anything having to do with the 50 cal would appreciate this lol. That said I don’t think it’ll fully replace the .50 BMG
My Uncle Hank (Sgt. Henry Abbott USMC, 1st Marines, Silver Star, Purple Heart) had a curly stache like that. He was a Marine who fought on Guadalcanal and across the pacific. Great guy, soft spoken, big positive influence in my life. He loved to fish and taught me how. We spent hours and hours fishing and chatting. He was instrumental in my decision to serve. There are a couple old news film clips and a picture out there from Guadalcanal where my Uncle Hank is clearly visible. He looked the same but much younger and clearly starving from the lack of food and really really tired. He has been gone about ten years now....still miss him. Keep rockin that curly stache!
@@MALICEM12 You know you don't have to comment your detracting opinion just because this guy brought up his uncle. Making claims about their intention comes off as pseudointellectual and redditoresque. Just stay quiet, we get that you are unwanted at parties.
As an owner & shooter of a weapon chambered in 338 lapua i can say yes,it is an incredible round and in an anti-personel role and exactly what bill designed the round for..." eliminating human targets at extreme distances " but in an anti material role the mass of the 50cal rounds projectile is more suitable
A weapon in 338LM to supplement the existing .30-caliber (or 6.8x51) GPMGs on the lighter end and the Big Ma Deuce 50-caliber HBMG on the upper end is a fine idea. The army already classes its precision/sniping rifles in that manner - "light" is anything up to and including .308; "intermediate" being anything between .308 and 50BMG such as 338LM or 300NM or 300WM; and "heavy" being the 50-cal or larger. The 250-grain slug from a 338LM weighs only one-third as much as the 750-grain round from a big 50, and sometimes throw-weight makes a difference. As an anti-material weapon, the 50BMG round is a heavy hitter; at 4000 yards, it still packs more than 1,000 lb-ft. of kinetic energy. Those are big shoes to fill for the 338. Too big, as a matter of fact.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Can't fill the same shoes, but is a hell of a tool to have when those shoes are going to be hard to wear in a situation anyway. "Within 1500" is quite an upgrade from "Within 800" I'd say filling that gap is rather nice
True but maneuver tactics and and rapid changes of fields of fire can now be achieved like never before. Will it stop a car? Yes. Will it punch through walls? Yes. So effectively you get less punch but 100x mobility.
@@VladHTX - The best move is to keep the 50BMG and move the 338LM into service alongside it. Valid roles/jobs for both weapons and cartridges. That's my two cents worth, anyway...
I remember a dude demonstrating his ability to close distance on a position while down range with 2 M240s. It was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Guy was 6’ 3” 240 lbs, built as hell. Him shooting those while moving is an image that will never leave my mind. He managed it, but oh lord was it funny.
As a Brit...... my "end of world LOTTO win loose my mind fantasy" was to have a Bren gun cambered in 338 Lapua Magnum. Oh what's this,? SIG have created a MACHINE GUN in 338 Norma Magnum AND IT'S BELT FED. The Bren will always have a place in my heart however BELT FED 338.. Praise be for the United States of America, and thank you for this lovely video.
@Chemistry of Questionable Quality ah ok fair enough, I guess it's similar to how the Ford Focus and Escort etc were designed and built by Ford Europe.
Dang impressive weapon... And thank you John for giving a great synopsis; straight to the point, well thought out and no fluff... Wish more creators/contributors had that style...
I really enjoy having John in the videos, it seems hes used for his specialty but I personally wouldn't mind him being in other video topics too - killer video as always team.
This would make a nice replacement for the COAX on the Abrams and Bradley. It would bring the engagement range of the coax closer to that of the Main Gun.
"light is right" as long as the recoil is handled well this should be a win-win John firing standing looks to me like the 1st step to wh40k space marines
John chasing Charlie across the screen in the background was the best part of this video. It looked like he was chasing him with some random chunk of lumber laying around the ranch, so so funny!😆
I think John eating that recoil so well had everyone forget how beautifully amazing that intro was I’d never thought I’d see incoming fire and vehicles exploding on this channel well done w the fx guys
That is most definitely getting demonetized, but no one cares cause that was the coolest intro y'all done yet. You guys are getting too good with those intros, it will be awesome if y'all made a short movie.
These intros never cease to amaze me, such high quality and have gotten better cgi than most new and upcoming movies... Keep up the great work i love the content broski!
Thank God Charlie is back. I was worried he had accidentally stabbed himself trying to fix his rake. Or gotten arrested for loitering near a school just a little too long.
To the brave Garand Thumb and Charlie clones that were ripped to shreds by the M338 in the intro, their sacrifice for the 17 cents of ad revenue were not in vain 😭
@@СтаниславК-в5щ To be honest, I think the M338 And The PKP Pecheneg are pretty close. Because since the M240B Was pretty close anyways, an upgraded version is probably just as good as the PKP.
Not a blabla, no a navy seal, not a private operator… yet, is the coolest human to watch handling weapons. Real opinion from a fun person around my age. I support you my G!!!
So true story here, I was a first yr Pvt. in a rifle company (infantry) and I was a C9 LMG gunner (C9 = FN Minimi or SAW for you non-Canadians) and we get out into the training area, doing this big assault on a mocked up village, and I'm in a 3-gun fire base with two other LMG's and we're providing fire support for the lead sections of the platoon going in, and we are supposed to just be pumping rounds down range, and I get a few bursts and my gun stops, so I go through my stoppage drill, get another burst down range, gun stops. This happens 3-4 times, and the Sgt. who was in charge of us was just losing his mind on me in the background, but I know I'm doing my drills correctly, so I yell back that there's something wrong with the gun.. turns out the safety had somehow come loose and wouldn't stay locked off, and, since I am a left-handed shooter, when I put the weapon to my shoulder, there was just enough of a tilt on it that the safety would slide from the off to on position as I was firing. So we solved the problem by using a piece of gun tape to hold the safety in the off position, and I resumed firing without any further stoppages lol. After that phase of the exercise I passed the gun off to one of our weapons tech's, but not before everyone had a good laugh at my expense, passing the (unloaded and cleared) gun around for everyone to have a look. 22 yrs ago, and I can still remember in vivid detail the frustration of not being able to clear those stoppages and having my Sgt. yelling and swearing at me in the background lol. Now that story time is over, I do have a question, the video mentioned that it could be charged from either the left or right side depending on the shooter, so I wanted to ask, and maybe someone with some more up to date experience can chime in, but as a left-handed shooter, I didn't really have a choice when it came to a lot of the support weapons I trained on, I am ambidextrous with my hands, but for shooting I am left-eye dominant, so I have to shoot rifles and machine guns from my left shoulder - pistols I can shoot either hand for some reason *Note I said I could shoot either hand, I didn't say how well! But I had some good instructors on my basic course, and on my machine gunners course, and I was no slower than average operating light, general purpose and heavy machine guns as a lefty, but I never had any other option, so I am curious how much difference it makes? I think with all the training and experience on deployments etc. I had over my career I think if charging had become an option on the other side it might have actually been more difficult for me to re-learn everything. Curious if anyone can comment on that. The dirty Canadian says sorry for the long comment haha
I kinda agree that it would be hard to relearn, I have been shooting and practicing marksmanship most of my life as a left handed shooter(right handed but my left arm is more flexible so I shoot leftie.) I couldn't that imagine changing the safety position. My father and girlfriend are both also left handed shooters and also agree with your point about the safety. It ain't science but it seems to be a majority of left handed shooters are just used to right handed safety placement.
Fellow dirty Canadian mg gunner here. I feel if the feed mechanism and charging handle were reversed they would benefit natural lefties. It would require training to be effective, no different than with the normal setup. I’m no expert, just a dumb ex-grunt. During work up training in ‘05 a fellow mger hand the handle come off his c9 while doing live pairs. He had to hold on for dear life in the mud till the belt ran out while his fire team partner assaulted the trench. Gen 1’s had weak sears combined with those weak retaining pins. Sounds like sig made an improvement in that aspect at least
Coming from an old UH-1 pilot, based on range and hit power, the M338 looks to be a much better door gun than the M60. I hope the guys at TF 160 are testing the M338 right now.
FOLLOW THE MONEY... .....and who in our government is invested in SIG .??? Who's relative works at SIG ....?? AND HOW BIG ARE OUR STOCKPILES OF 50CAL AND 7.62 X 51 ???
@@ZombieKiller-vf2np Well, an Army Times article came out saying that it was cancelled as the replacement for standard infantry rifle specifically, due to a few different issues (including not actually penetrating level 4 armor). Is that incorrect? The military is still going to be buying a bunch either way though, I would assume, just not for standard infantry soldiers.
@@sharkbait5402 I hope they redesign it as a hunting rifle. If they were getting 2700fps out of a 13-inch barrel, then full-power .277 Fury BTHP would ZIP out of a 16-inch barrel, trajectory flatter than a North Korean cheerleader....
Been saying for many years that .338 should have been the round that a new platform was based on back when the M240 replaced the M60. Glad to see it's being taken seriously.
@@shepleonard8695 .338 win mag was out before then. Also there were a host of 8.6mm cartridges in existence already that could have been modified or used already for machine gun use
@@John-wk2fd True, but they all lacked real world ballistics. It wasn't until .338 Lapua and .338 Norma that the ballistics became with the buffer from .308 and the 50 within the military. The military is binding itself within the logistics of all the new rounds that no one else is using on top of making weapon load heavier across the board. Yes the M338 is lighter, but ehe XM5 weighs 8.38 pounds, or 9.84 pounds with the suppressor, compared to the 6.34-pound M4. That new rifle will also use 20-round magazines, smaller than the 30-round magazines troops currently use. A soldier's basic combat load will be seven of those 20-round magazines, a total of 140 rounds, weighing 9.8 pounds altogether. The M4's combat load, also seven magazines for a total of 210 rounds, is 7.4 pounds. In total, a rifleman with the XM5 will carry roughly four pounds more than today's M4 rifleman. We'll just have to wait and see.
@Shep Leonard the .338 Lapua Mag was invented in 1989. While a bit different than the Norma, the Lapua is still arguably "also" in the middle between 7.62 and .50 BMG. I should have specified more in my initial post regarding the .338 caliber in general, and it's subsequent variants, not just the Norma. You do raise a good point though about practical loadouts, where weight of the .338 will trump capacity. And of course, cost will certainly be a factor as well, although with government contracts that difference would probably get lost in the muck.
240 was already in service as a coax and quite functional without having to reinvent the wheel at 5$ a round ffs. So much for extensive time at the range at that price.
Micah trying to walk and shoot, chefs kiss. 🤌
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Just him trying to hold it was pretty funny, almost as funny as his mustache looks lol
Bless his heart he really did try. Your turn Matt!
Now it's your turn
It really opens one's eyes to how much energy is coursing through these weapons if only a beast like John could even move while firing the thing.
Johns walk and shoot was impressive. Looked badass as well.
he’s a monster and we love him. He’ll be a welcome addition to our team
@@killdizzle As a fellow John with a baby face, A beard fixes everything. But cudos to him that was badass.
Just got to that part LAUGHED OUT LOUD... what a GEEZA.
Can we get him a smaller plate carrier though?
Rangers! Lead the way
Makes me happy to see Charlie finally got a new rake. It's been a long time coming.
Assault rake
& he was immediately trying to break it lmao
@@181baddog not breaking it, he’s breaking it in
@@MNW-69 don’t tell the ATF
I'm wait for Charlie to dress it up
This channel has become the Clarkson-era Top Gear of guns, which is pretty much my highest compliment.
you could say this is "Top Gun"
fuck that was bad
@@FPSkazuto So bad it's good, as all true Dad jokes are haha
@@chadlevitan7886 im too young to have the power of a dad
@@FPSkazuto These things take time, my son. You're on the right path toward gaining your Dad powers.
You can just say Top Gear. The spin-offs aren't counted as cannon.
Watching John eat the recoil and fire while walking forward and everyone else fail just shows how much of a unit John is.
A unit lol, that sounds just a little gay
@RyO0O0o it really doesn't
@@ryo0o0o88 the Canadian guy said it doesn't sound a little gay, so we know it sounds a lot gay 🤔🤦♂️🤣
@@ryo0o0o88 it's been a meme for years bro
@@ryo0o0o88 weird definition of gay.
God damn, John looked like an ODST shooting that massive thing standing. What an absolute unit.
Totally, I’m just waiting for Lament by Light of Aiden to start playing in the background
nah ODSTs use SMGs
@@amvlabs5339 in the lore they use other weapons as well as the smg. They only use SMGs in the game because they were supposed to be landing on the carrier and would be fighting in a cqb environment. Also, the game designers want ODST to be as visually different from the regular Halo games as possible.
@@amvlabs5339 Yeah but not ODSTs named John, they carry whatever they can lift up and use it as a weapon.
Machine gunners are a breed my guy. They do what they do. Accept no substitutes.
Watching the rifle and ammo breakdown: Dope and hilarious
Watching the guys in the back fight with the rake: Priceless
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Charlie has break his new rake in, I guess
Rake isn't going to last long either
Bro if you want a dope intro be like grand thumb
Ohhh so that’s what happened to the old rake
4:15 I started chuckled when I saw Charlie running across screen, then I realized why and I started wheezing 😂😂
The fact he attacked John in the beginning then John comes back for that ass.
4:15 Two men, playing like little boys. Awesome!
And you can barely hear a yell in the bg
"Ammunition is... Paid for by sig" was a killer one liner
How
Totally, I have rarely heard something so short yet fitting. 😀
In other words, paid for by the US taxpayer.
Thanks. I heard it as "paid 4 by 6" and started searching for what the hell that even means. _*facepalm_
@@mortisCZ thats what
I just want to take the time to thank YT for protecting my eyeballs from a very scary barrel change on a weapon I'll never use. I can feel the safety of this video all around me.
Just the thought makes me shake in the boots. Could you imagine knowing how to repair something? The world will end!
Wasn't youtube. GT did it to CHA.
I think it's to protect against the competitors that sig is up against right now.
@@stephenmarcum2509 nope its censortubes rules. Same with the dude who's whole channel was about the poly eightys. All removed.
I think TH-cam decided they can actually do barrel changes, mag reloads, suppressor installs, and all the without penalty now. This video just came out before those rules got changed. I think it was 2 or 3 weeks ago they changed them?
As soon as I saw it was a MG video I was like "I hope they bring John back" and boom there he is. The way he stares in machinegunner at the SIG as everybody is talking is fantastic
lmao I'm at the point in the video and he's literally doing that.
it's because he has discipline and knows when not to interrupt someone else talking, he is not some joker pos like most of the youth being indoctrinated in woke retard schools. it's called manners.
Lmfao same here.
It makes me really happy to see one of our service members benefiting from sharing his knowledge. I love that company reps come out to show their equipment to all of us. One thought I had that would have been a cool extra for this video, is if, you did some low light shooting with, and without the suppressor. It would be interesting to see the difference, especially from a downrange point of view.
Great production, as always!
John's a beast! You gain a whole level of respect for him being able to walk and fire, after seeing Micah couldn't even move
That kid is an absolute monster!
Just Ranger things 😮💨🤌🏻
Plus John was all geared up.
He looks like a jacked Kyle Rittenhouse!
@@whall2962 dude I think you just nailed it lol
I was just here for the rake review, absolutely incredible durability and reliability, the rake simply refused to quit. The rake could collect millions of leaves with no malfunction, I’m sure it would still punch up and collect even larger yard waste like sticks and dog shit and still maintain function. What was sig there for.
Looked lightweight as well, definitely gonna be picking one up!!!
@@firstnamelastname6216 With how light it is I’m sure you could pick multiple up
Sadly, I live in Australia, and tactical rakes were banned after an obvious psiop.
But can John walk and rake tho?
Sig was there for the free advertising. 😁 Yeah rakes tend to simply work as intended. 🙂
John is a giant of a man. He handled that like it was a 308 or 556.
He was struggling though.. Pretty crazy if he was being pushed and he had a lot of weight.
Baby-faced killer!
Men like John are why kids should eat their Wheaties.
Indeed. No idea of his dimensions or fitness but at 6'2" / 230lb it'd definitely be a solid effort. Good on all of them, its a beast of a thing.
Forgot the part he was kicked out of Batt for having guns and explosives and getting scolded by his unit Command and CID
John walking and shooting in that first shot was unreal!! Dude looks like a spartan!!
The production value of your videos = 🔥😍
best gun channel for sure
GUYS THE USEC AND BEAR GUYS HERE LETS GOO
The intros are off the hook! Also, there is so much good humor to make me chuckle at least a few times in every video. 😆
yes, it is racist :(
@RandomInternet User bro garand thumb is a vet? i mean it more or less just seems like dudes being good friends, anyways. either way, im glad they did bring out the gun, its pretty cool.
The walk and shoot was hilarious, watching John twist and slow down from the recoil. Then Micah completely glued in place then as soon as he stops shooting, he springs forwards 😆
What happened?
@@daboodledop The recoil lol
That gun looks like it was taken straight out of halo. I absolutely love it. The main reason I love it is because you can give it to a SAW gunner in a fireteam and have not only more firepower but also someone that can provide covering fire, take out vehicles, punch through cover, and even take out enemies at longer ranges. I think it’s more useful than the M240 for infantry because of its weight which is heavier than the M338 which allows SAW gunners to fire while they walk, meaning they can control their surroundings much more effectively so that not only the gunner but the other soldiers in that fireteam. In my opinion, the military should take it! If they use it right, they can have a lot of roles that they don’t have filled replaced by the SAW gunners.
SAWs are nearly all gone
An absolute unit named John (117) fired a Halo-looking gun while walking.
This shit couldn't write itself any better than this.
Can we just put that gun in Halo already. I'm craving to see John 117 use it as his regular assault rifle. Perfect size and power for a Spartan. Absolutely savage!
The government should purchase them for standard issue to non-leftist civilians.
We need PSA to start making a bullpup AR chassis that looks like the Battle Rifle or Assault Rifle. Or a huge carry handle for the MDR.
I swear to god Charlie is absolutely hilarious without even needing to try to be, the way he charged with the rake had me on the floor 😂
in 4:15 story continued even further 🤣🤣
@@Eliarrobcio I had to do a double take and watch that 3 times 😂
He looked annoyed that his rake was so resilient and he couldn't break off a piece. haha
He does look like a rakist when you think about it...
Glorious.
Cant even focus on the actual video 🤣
I was wondering why that desert looked so neat, and then it struck me that Charlie must have been raking it all day that day.
Cleaning up the field patties from the Free Range Bodybuilders
😂
Someone has to pick up the brass, i guess🤣
Probably before and after recording the video he was all day out there with his new rake running up and down all over the place 🤣
@@dibingsdibingens8463 I think it would have been dangerous to try and stop him. He's unpredictable like that.
Charlie is a treasure. I hope he never gets hit on the head a second time, and returns to normal.
John and Charlie playing well together makes me so happy...
The possibility that Charlie's new rake can be a tax write off because it's for the videos gives me a real good chuckle.
John is a man of few words, just manly nods yet he’s an absolute unit
Should add 117 to his first name after that display
Watching John walk and shoot that thing looks almost inhuman holy shit! He’s walking so slow but with so much force it’s insane.
Looks like a Spartan-II
Straight out of a video game.
One thing that SAW gunners are going to need are fucking cleats so that they can keep moving while they’re spitting lead!
@@marquis2395I can’t say that you’re wrong about that, just get a master chief costume and there you go, a god damn spartan.
Starship Troopers moment
4:15 Background scene had me rolling.
John seemed knowledgeable and professional; would love to see more of him.
he knows a thing or two because he’s seen a thing or two
2:20 john and charlie were going at it
75 ranger battalion 🗿👍
SIGs contribution to the next gen weaponry, in the belt fed category especially, is admirable to say the least. It's really cool to see them make the leaps they've been making.
Especially in reducing weight!
@Dick Izzinya ”But muh ability to pen chinese body armour!”
Fair point, somehow I was only thinking about the M250.
@@Carbidestruck I do wonder if there are 5.56 load/projectile combinations that will go through level 4 plates at 300 meter-ish combat ranges? I would imagine tungsten projectiles might do the trick without returning to using battle rifles.
@@zchen27 M855A1 Is really squeezing the limits out of the platform. And it's tearing up barrels lifespan. You need the velocity and the mass. I think the whole goal is to step well beyond what body armor will achieve for quite some time. Instead of a small incremental upgrade that can be defeated relatively easily. Remember Level IV is rated up to 30-06 AP, level threats. Getting 5.56 to that is a fools errand.
@@zchen27 I guess the purpose of the SIG is to offer overmatch capability, i.e 5.56 tungsten rounds can pen lvl 4 plates at typical combat distance, but the SIG is capable of penetrating future body armour developments. Furthermore the optic combined with the rifle should offer more range, increasing survivability, which is a serious priority.
The question is wheter the 6.8 actually offers AP capability and wheter the increased engagement range offered by the optic materializes in actual combat.
SIG has been killing it lately. Landing tons of contracts
PA will never drop their sponsorship because they just assume Charlie is a make-a-wish kid
😂
He's not.
That's a BRUTAL roast.
Make a wish for Charlie 😂
The fact that John was able to walk and rip that 338 was damn near orgasmic. He made that look easy and everyone quickly learned it was only the fact that he's a beast. I hope our army picks this baby up and we'll have a new generation of Rambo. I hate to admit it but I've been simping so hard for sig these last few years.
(Edit: typos from fat finger phone posts)
As a former machine gunner I would love to get this on a sustained fire kit. Damn you would have some punch and reach.
Never thought of 338 in a mg before but when you look at what that round can do and the light weight of the platform it is a brilliant idea.
7.62 was deadly in urban areas, damn 338 would pound through walls like nothing was there.
Just thinking about last time I provided covering fire with a mag58, two of these on tripods would be freaking devastating.
50 cal is great but the 126 lbs making it totally useless in the mountains or rough terrain in a dismounted role. Mg338 checks a lot boxes.
Which nation? Mag58 means Canadian, Belgian, Aus or Kiwi me guess.
@@shanemartin2491Canada, C6
1:14 The casual nod from John when Charlie said “Korean Meat Bathing Suit” was the perfect move.
Impressive how controllable it is from standing position in full auto for being a 338 Norma mag
It's heavy long barrel make negligible recoil. It's still not a 50 cal.
Big E-4 energy from the resident machine gunner
that’s why we love John
John's the Don
I know folks rag on Sig for being expensive pieces of hardware, but damn, the sheer amount of thought an innovation that seem to have gone into this whole project is astonishing and I have a lot of respect for their techs for really coming up with creative design elements and workarounds to modern combat gunner issues. It’s almost as astonishing as seeing John walking that 338.
I have a sig P320 the full size model ( cost me 500 dollars a few years back ) the first strike fire pistol I ever owned. People have given me grief over it at a local outdoor range where armalite style rifles are prominent.and for some reason the majority of pistols seen are the high end semiautomatics. Now my 320 has traditional iron sights. I was shooting at 10 and 25 yards. Offhand switching between my left and right hand some guys new to shooting (range master was constantly checking for safety concerns). had tricked out 9mm shooting at bowling pins set a 100 yards. At a break I asked how they were doing. They were not hitting anything. I asked if I could shoot at their bowling pins. Okay they said. So I got my 320 after the break and using 115 grain Winchester from a range pack. I proceed after one test shot to hit the bowling pins with 3 aimed shots but using the pole supporting the awning as a support. The range master chuckle. We had known each other for years. Both of use cut our teeth on the 1911A1 which we both shot expert with in the military. I like Sigs, Colts and for some reason taurus revolvers.
Sig have been winning military and police contracts galore recently. But this thing looks great.
I bought an Audi 5000 turbo back when. Very nice engineering and lots of neat little perks. But so COMPLICATED and finicky that it cost me more in repairs and soul searching than it was worth. VERY nice when it DID function though.
@@Darkpara1 didn't the NSGW get dropped by the army?
its not even for that its because half of the cool stuff they sell we will never be able to get ever.
The 338 projectile is indeed magical. I've hunted with the 338 Federal (308 Win necked up to a 338) for years and nothing hits harder with less meat destruction. Game rarely takes a single step before dropping. Very versatile, accurate and capable projectile. Amazing weapon system. Great video as always.
Mike left speechless at the Dad advice 😂
Bro became flabbergasted
Best part of the whole video lol
Missed you Charlie!
Also John's a monster, and speechless Garand Thumb at the end was hilarious, well-done St. John.
I imagine this melts folks like that chemrail gun from the movie Elysium
I would trade two mp7’s for a chemrail gun😢
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING.
Kyle Rittenhouse sure gotten swole
rightfully so considering where this country is heading
All im saying is the .50bmg barelt got started no way theyre repalcing it almsot no one owns any still its so expensive bit the bolt action game gas helped now yoh pay like 5k for the gun only the cost of a sweet used accord fuuuuuu
@@TheAnnoyingBossman what are you even saying.
@@TheAnnoyingBosswatching other men handle loaded firearms, and drinking alcohol doesn’t mix 👍
Sold the daughters .50 bmg Barrett as bullets are ten bucks apiece. Got seven grand for it.
I was at Sig HQ last weekend and got to put hands on the M338 and it really is a badass weapon. The 240B will always have a place in my heart, but this thing has so many quality of life changes I didn't know I would have wanted back in the day as a machine gunner!
It's US designed and developed with former US special forces providing insight and feedback.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 exactly. Almost 3 decades of combat experience has changed everything from our weapons to our doctrine and SOP
Being able to shoulder fire a gun that light firing a round with that much jam is impressive. Walking it forward is beyond impressive… my lord.
Hate will make you god tier
Fact.
John walking and firing was the sickest thing I've seen in a minute.
Charles hitting John with the rake cracked me tf up
If it replaces the .50, we should see how it does against engine blocks.
i mean yeah .50 cal is a literal anti-material round so i would like to see how it could do that. i’m sure that the military would love to put it between 7.62 and .50 like they touched on at the beginning of the video, but definitely not replacing it at all
I don't think the .50 will be replaced any time soon in the anti-material role, even if they do replace it Im sure they gonna hand that down to another division that needs it for its specific use, like how some special forces groups still use the m1911 or a 357 magnum
Considering 7.62 will punch into engine block already, I am gonna go with "It'll do"
I dont think itll have any issues. most likely going to perform closer to a lapua. which will chew through them as well. and im sure the military will be running some hardcore ammo through those.
@@antdogboyness_66 338 norma has more energy at long range than 50 bmg
While the M7 (M5) doesn't appear to improve a lot over the M4 with the exception of single round stopping power (which to be fair, was the aim for SIG and the military), the M250 and M338 are massive improvements over the existing service machine guns, especially the M338 being that intermediate between the now M250 and the M2. Seeing it rip through that ballistics dummy was both impressive and low key horrifying
Isn't the M5 dropped now?
@@collinb.8542 It got renamed the M7 but I believe its still going ahead.
@@deathtdow Correct, I believe it was renamed because Colt released their own rifled called the M5
@@deadarashi6462 Colt released the M5 back in 2017, which was before the XM5 was adopted. Prior to that, the XM5 was simply Sig’s entry in the NGSW program (Didn’t have a numerical designation).
Why didn’t they name it the M6? Was that already taken?
It’s interesting the way that John fired at 10:05 because I’m pretty sure that’s how they were taught to fire the BAR while walking in WWI
if it aint broke.....
Would genuinely love to see how that technique has evolved through the years.
Just got rid of my first bucket list rifle, the M82A1, now I gotta get me one of these. Great video. Time to do some research as far as the Norma compared to the Lapua 338. Thanks for all this.
Unfortunately. If you arent an SOT or an FFL. You cant own this gun in the full auto configuration, only the semi auto version.😢
The human mind can have a little Garand Thumb on Sunday mornings, as a treat.
Its 5 pm in Germany, you need to fix yur clock
@@HitlerlandBoiyou know what Jimmy Buffet says "it's 5 oclock somewhereee"
Did Charlie get a new tactical rake for the Idaho range? We need a video about the new rake’s capabilities.
It's all in the tines. People think in the joinery, it's clearly tines affording him that kind of control.
After watching this channel for like 5 years im glad that it’s growing and improving with each passing year. Hope you guys are around to teach my son about cool shit when he’s older 🤣
Charlies just out here fighting his Inner Demons with his Assault Rake, what a man!
As a user of the M2 I will say that this is actually insane.
Insane as in the .338 cannot replace the M2?
I think anyone who has had to carry anything having to do with the 50 cal would appreciate this lol. That said I don’t think it’ll fully replace the .50 BMG
@@likydsplit8483 i mean the cartridges have their advantages and disadvantages
@@likydsplit8483 A .338 with you is better than a .50 left at the fob... Especially if that .338 is the same weight as an m240
@@TheTeehee11111My thoughts exactly
That old saying it's better to have it comes to mind
Is it just me, or are his videos getting better and more elaborate. Either way, this is my favorite part of Sunday.
My Uncle Hank (Sgt. Henry Abbott USMC, 1st Marines, Silver Star, Purple Heart) had a curly stache like that. He was a Marine who fought on Guadalcanal and across the pacific. Great guy, soft spoken, big positive influence in my life. He loved to fish and taught me how. We spent hours and hours fishing and chatting. He was instrumental in my decision to serve. There are a couple old news film clips and a picture out there from Guadalcanal where my Uncle Hank is clearly visible. He looked the same but much younger and clearly starving from the lack of food and really really tired. He has been gone about ten years now....still miss him. Keep rockin that curly stache!
You know you don't need to lore dump on your uncle with just bringing him up. It comes off as attention seeking. Just say your uncle, we get it.
@@MALICEM12 he’s reminiscing on someone he misses that’s why? Do you ever actually think lol
@@MALICEM12 < it's always the lame gamer incels who run mouths.
@@MALICEM12 You know you don't have to comment your detracting opinion just because this guy brought up his uncle. Making claims about their intention comes off as pseudointellectual and redditoresque. Just stay quiet, we get that you are unwanted at parties.
As an owner & shooter of a weapon chambered in 338 lapua i can say yes,it is an incredible round and in an anti-personel role and exactly what bill designed the round for..." eliminating human targets at extreme distances " but in an anti material role the mass of the 50cal rounds projectile is more suitable
A weapon in 338LM to supplement the existing .30-caliber (or 6.8x51) GPMGs on the lighter end and the Big Ma Deuce 50-caliber HBMG on the upper end is a fine idea. The army already classes its precision/sniping rifles in that manner - "light" is anything up to and including .308; "intermediate" being anything between .308 and 50BMG such as 338LM or 300NM or 300WM; and "heavy" being the 50-cal or larger. The 250-grain slug from a 338LM weighs only one-third as much as the 750-grain round from a big 50, and sometimes throw-weight makes a difference. As an anti-material weapon, the 50BMG round is a heavy hitter; at 4000 yards, it still packs more than 1,000 lb-ft. of kinetic energy. Those are big shoes to fill for the 338. Too big, as a matter of fact.
.50 can also carry a payload in a way that .338 just can't
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Can't fill the same shoes, but is a hell of a tool to have when those shoes are going to be hard to wear in a situation anyway.
"Within 1500" is quite an upgrade from "Within 800"
I'd say filling that gap is rather nice
True but maneuver tactics and and rapid changes of fields of fire can now be achieved like never before. Will it stop a car? Yes. Will it punch through walls? Yes. So effectively you get less punch but 100x mobility.
@@VladHTX - The best move is to keep the 50BMG and move the 338LM into service alongside it. Valid roles/jobs for both weapons and cartridges. That's my two cents worth, anyway...
I remember a dude demonstrating his ability to close distance on a position while down range with 2 M240s. It was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Guy was 6’ 3” 240 lbs, built as hell. Him shooting those while moving is an image that will never leave my mind. He managed it, but oh lord was it funny.
As a Brit...... my "end of world LOTTO win loose my mind fantasy" was to have a Bren gun cambered in 338 Lapua Magnum. Oh what's this,? SIG have created a MACHINE GUN in 338 Norma Magnum AND IT'S BELT FED. The Bren will always have a place in my heart however BELT FED 338.. Praise be for the United States of America, and thank you for this lovely video.
Isn't Sig Swiss?
@@CobaltMilsim it's made in the US. Just like how Glock, H&K, FN, Kalashnikov and others have American subsidiaries.
@Chemistry of Questionable Quality ah ok fair enough, I guess it's similar to how the Ford Focus and Escort etc were designed and built by Ford Europe.
Dang impressive weapon... And thank you John for giving a great synopsis; straight to the point, well thought out and no fluff... Wish more creators/contributors had that style...
It’s always good to have a LMG gunner in the squad.
Guys, you have a very cool shooting and image quality. Can you tell me which camera you are shooting with ? Sincerely, Russian Weapons Channel
Woa, Russian weapons channel? I don't know why I didn't think about looking for something like that. Good opportunity to learn more Russian. Спасибо
какие люди)
на американскую вестимо))) изучаем вероятного противника?))
Слава Україні
В составе России@@Auloss
I really enjoy having John in the videos, it seems hes used for his specialty but I personally wouldn't mind him being in other video topics too - killer video as always team.
This would make a nice replacement for the COAX on the Abrams and Bradley. It would bring the engagement range of the coax closer to that of the Main Gun.
😅
This is nowhere near the 5-ish kilometer range of the MBT main gun...
@@Asghaad Reading comprehension's not your thing, is it? He said "bring it CLOSER", not "bring it up to" the engagement range..
@@CocktailKnight moving range of coax from 800 to 1500 isn't that relevant, you won't be engaging anything that far with MG anyway
@@Asghaad I’d say being able to engage targets from outside the range of most handheld AT-weaponry is fairly relevant.
"light is right" as long as the recoil is handled well this should be a win-win John firing standing looks to me like the 1st step to wh40k space marines
Idk if I’ve seen anything as badass in RL than John walking forward shooting that thing 😮
John chasing Charlie across the screen in the background was the best part of this video. It looked like he was chasing him with some random chunk of lumber laying around the ranch, so so funny!😆
So damn funny!
That walk&shoot was impressive. Those effective ranges are wild! What a cool gun
Seeing him geared up and doing the walk and fire looked something for a sci-fi war movie or something.
FR that was the pimping highlight of the vid!
the cinematics are getting better and better holy moly :)
@5:28 that was gnarly, that thing absolutely shreds.
I think John eating that recoil so well had everyone forget how beautifully amazing that intro was I’d never thought I’d see incoming fire and vehicles exploding on this channel well done w the fx guys
I had a giggle seeing OPFOR popping away standing at 600 with a Krink...
Supersonic past 1,500 meters? This weapon probably would've solved a lot of problems in Afghanistan that the SAW couldn't.
I'm with you. A 17-in barrel on a 23 lb weapon that's firing supersonic at 1.5 clicks? That ammunition must be something.
Well, they wouldn't replace the SAW for this, so the problem remains.
@@ChucksSEADnDEADuntrue it's going to happen
@@dcrose001 It'll happen, but not in massive numbers. The SAW is still going to be used to a good extent for a while I assume.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 they're replacing it with the m250. he literally did a video about it that they mention in this video
wow with this video quality you should just make a short film that focuses on guns! really do it! LOVED IT!
I've missed Charlie, he's like that favourite crazy uncle.
That is most definitely getting demonetized, but no one cares cause that was the coolest intro y'all done yet. You guys are getting too good with those intros, it will be awesome if y'all made a short movie.
I started watching this channel about a year ago and man it never disappoints.
These intros never cease to amaze me, such high quality and have gotten better cgi than most new and upcoming movies... Keep up the great work i love the content broski!
My man Charles is fighting demons with that rake.
I was expecting some battle rifle, a beltfed 338 is insane. I don't even wanna imagine how it'd perform in combat (I really really do)
Send a couple thousand to ukraine with GoPros
@@jacobkudrowichSend to the Russians❤
@@MrChiangching Lol because America and Russia are close friends since cold war right hah?
@noeljoy5917 I'd send yo Russia before Russia, Zelensky and his buddies would just sell them to cartels and Islamic terrorists 🤑
@@MrChiangching No thanks :D
Charlie is a national treasure
You spelled fuckin idiot wrong.
Happy to see what shenanigans he comes up with.
Certainly is special...
@@joshuagibson2520 Excuse you
@@1x1nDone thank you. Much obliged.
4:38 comment caught me off guard 😂😂
Thank God Charlie is back. I was worried he had accidentally stabbed himself trying to fix his rake. Or gotten arrested for loitering near a school just a little too long.
To the brave Garand Thumb and Charlie clones that were ripped to shreds by the M338 in the intro, their sacrifice for the 17 cents of ad revenue were not in vain 😭
I loved the 240b in Iraq. This gun seems like an amazing upgrade.
@@СтаниславК-в5щ To be honest, I think the M338 And The PKP Pecheneg are pretty close. Because since the M240B Was pretty close anyways, an upgraded version is probably just as good as the PKP.
Not a blabla, no a navy seal, not a private operator… yet, is the coolest human to watch handling weapons. Real opinion from a fun person around my age. I support you my G!!!
So true story here, I was a first yr Pvt. in a rifle company (infantry) and I was a C9 LMG gunner (C9 = FN Minimi or SAW for you non-Canadians) and we get out into the training area, doing this big assault on a mocked up village, and I'm in a 3-gun fire base with two other LMG's and we're providing fire support for the lead sections of the platoon going in, and we are supposed to just be pumping rounds down range, and I get a few bursts and my gun stops, so I go through my stoppage drill, get another burst down range, gun stops. This happens 3-4 times, and the Sgt. who was in charge of us was just losing his mind on me in the background, but I know I'm doing my drills correctly, so I yell back that there's something wrong with the gun.. turns out the safety had somehow come loose and wouldn't stay locked off, and, since I am a left-handed shooter, when I put the weapon to my shoulder, there was just enough of a tilt on it that the safety would slide from the off to on position as I was firing. So we solved the problem by using a piece of gun tape to hold the safety in the off position, and I resumed firing without any further stoppages lol. After that phase of the exercise I passed the gun off to one of our weapons tech's, but not before everyone had a good laugh at my expense, passing the (unloaded and cleared) gun around for everyone to have a look. 22 yrs ago, and I can still remember in vivid detail the frustration of not being able to clear those stoppages and having my Sgt. yelling and swearing at me in the background lol.
Now that story time is over, I do have a question, the video mentioned that it could be charged from either the left or right side depending on the shooter, so I wanted to ask, and maybe someone with some more up to date experience can chime in, but as a left-handed shooter, I didn't really have a choice when it came to a lot of the support weapons I trained on, I am ambidextrous with my hands, but for shooting I am left-eye dominant, so I have to shoot rifles and machine guns from my left shoulder - pistols I can shoot either hand for some reason *Note I said I could shoot either hand, I didn't say how well! But I had some good instructors on my basic course, and on my machine gunners course, and I was no slower than average operating light, general purpose and heavy machine guns as a lefty, but I never had any other option, so I am curious how much difference it makes? I think with all the training and experience on deployments etc. I had over my career I think if charging had become an option on the other side it might have actually been more difficult for me to re-learn everything. Curious if anyone can comment on that.
The dirty Canadian says sorry for the long comment haha
I kinda agree that it would be hard to relearn, I have been shooting and practicing marksmanship most of my life as a left handed shooter(right handed but my left arm is more flexible so I shoot leftie.) I couldn't that imagine changing the safety position. My father and girlfriend are both also left handed shooters and also agree with your point about the safety. It ain't science but it seems to be a majority of left handed shooters are just used to right handed safety placement.
Fellow dirty Canadian mg gunner here. I feel if the feed mechanism and charging handle were reversed they would benefit natural lefties. It would require training to be effective, no different than with the normal setup. I’m no expert, just a dumb ex-grunt.
During work up training in ‘05 a fellow mger hand the handle come off his c9 while doing live pairs. He had to hold on for dear life in the mud till the belt ran out while his fire team partner assaulted the trench. Gen 1’s had weak sears combined with those weak retaining pins. Sounds like sig made an improvement in that aspect at least
If you can't enjoy Garand Thumb, you're just not fun. Glad that John was able to come back out to explain the finer points.
Coming from an old UH-1 pilot, based on range and hit power, the M338 looks to be a much better door gun than the M60. I hope the guys at TF 160 are testing the M338 right now.
I'd imagine they are.
This is the kinda toy I think will see plenty of interested parties
No one gunna talk about Charles assaulting the other dude with a rake at 2:17 lmao
SIg has been coming through with some incredible firearm designs lately and have been rewarded with some nice contracts for it.
I hear the XM5 was canceled by the Army. But a solid replacement for the M2 could get further.
@@sharkbait5402 you heard wrong
FOLLOW THE MONEY... .....and who in our government is invested in SIG .??? Who's relative works at SIG ....?? AND HOW BIG ARE OUR STOCKPILES OF 50CAL AND 7.62 X 51 ???
@@ZombieKiller-vf2np
Well, an Army Times article came out saying that it was cancelled as the replacement for standard infantry rifle specifically, due to a few different issues (including not actually penetrating level 4 armor). Is that incorrect?
The military is still going to be buying a bunch either way though, I would assume, just not for standard infantry soldiers.
@@sharkbait5402
I hope they redesign it as a hunting rifle. If they were getting 2700fps out of a 13-inch barrel, then full-power .277 Fury BTHP would ZIP out of a 16-inch barrel, trajectory flatter than a North Korean cheerleader....
You guys should turn the intros into full-length films. They are so good!
Been saying for many years that .338 should have been the round that a new platform was based on back when the M240 replaced the M60. Glad to see it's being taken seriously.
Considering the .338 Norma wasn't invented until 2009 and the 60 was replaced in early 80s.
@@shepleonard8695 .338 win mag was out before then. Also there were a host of 8.6mm cartridges in existence already that could have been modified or used already for machine gun use
@@John-wk2fd True, but they all lacked real world ballistics. It wasn't until .338 Lapua and .338 Norma that the ballistics became with the buffer from .308 and the 50 within the military. The military is binding itself within the logistics of all the new rounds that no one else is using on top of making weapon load heavier across the board. Yes the M338 is lighter, but ehe XM5 weighs 8.38 pounds, or 9.84 pounds with the suppressor, compared to the 6.34-pound M4. That new rifle will also use 20-round magazines, smaller than the 30-round magazines troops currently use. A soldier's basic combat load will be seven of those 20-round magazines, a total of 140 rounds, weighing 9.8 pounds altogether. The M4's combat load, also seven magazines for a total of 210 rounds, is 7.4 pounds. In total, a rifleman with the XM5 will carry roughly four pounds more than today's M4 rifleman. We'll just have to wait and see.
@Shep Leonard the .338 Lapua Mag was invented in 1989. While a bit different than the Norma, the Lapua is still arguably "also" in the middle between 7.62 and .50 BMG. I should have specified more in my initial post regarding the .338 caliber in general, and it's subsequent variants, not just the Norma. You do raise a good point though about practical loadouts, where weight of the .338 will trump capacity. And of course, cost will certainly be a factor as well, although with government contracts that difference would probably get lost in the muck.
240 was already in service as a coax and quite functional without having to reinvent the wheel at 5$ a round ffs. So much for extensive time at the range at that price.
I very much enjoy John’s insight as a gunner. Really neat to see how significant the improvements that Sig is making to belt fed platforms as a whole.
our man on the right during the intro of the video, dude built like a fridge he need a wider plate carrier xD
These intro’s are better than most movies coming out now days dude my word
Probably bc it’s not trans, non binary, pedophila bullshit
2:34 anyone else see Charlie in the background charge with the rake overhead?
This is why we love him
Best part about 338, it flies as fast and as far as a 50, but ranges than ban 50s don't ban 338s.
Shh they might hear you.
Having friends from all walks of the military life make this channel a beautiful thing to uphold.