Considering your absolutely vicious take down of this truck the first time, and deservedly so, I’m surprised your Ford rep gave you another one. Good work.
You don't learn from your mistakes if you try to bury them. The reveal of the 2022/2023 Ranger (2022 Worldwide, most likely 2023 NA) shows that this Ranger may make up for the 2019's faults. I like my 2019 Ranger, it's a good vehicle, but I personally wanted a hybrid powertrain for my next vehicle, so I went with the F-150 Powerboost. Was gonna buy a Lightning, but there's a 3 year lead time on that...
Ford held back with the current Ranger to save F150 sales and they’re paying for it. People won’t switch from Tacomas or Colorados for the current Ranger. Now they put themselves in a spot where the new Ranger will have to be a lot better but will have to compete with the Maverick and Bronco, as well as the ridiculous current car prices.
@@TheKingOfHalo I switched and it wasn't even a close call. I live in Wyoming and I am 6'3. First the turbo/powertrain doesn't lose power at elevation like my Tacoma did. Also the seating position and visibility is hundreds of times better than the Tacoma. I drive my Ranger and I am shocked at how much better it is than my '13 Tacoma TRD Off road.was. Is the Ranger perfect? F no. It is light years better than my Tacoma for MY needs. yes.
@@TheKingOfHalo i literally switched from a 12Tacoma TRD Off Road. First. Cabin. I am 6'3 and I never fit in my Tacoma and actually got clautrophobia in that thing. 2. I live in Wyoming and at altitude the turbo is a gazillion time better than the tacomas NA..not the mention the entire powertrain is way better. 3. Tacoma had two warranty repairs in first 12K miles (AC went out and leaking shock). 26K on my 20 Ranger Lariat FX4 with zero issues. Nope..I am good with my Ranger and it ain't even close.
I've had 2 of these. I had a 2019 XLT FX4 and currently a 2022 XLT Tremor. I will say both trucks have been rock solid. Extremely reliable. Maybe the design is considered "old" but it's bulletproof as far as I'm concerned. I'll take a proven, tough design over "soft touch" interior all day long.
I just bought a 21' Ranger and I'm not denying the interior isn't "cheap," but I picked up the Ranger in equivalent spec to a Tacoma for several grand less and the Ranger still has a much better powertrain than the Tacoma. Edit for the Taco fanboys - reliability being equal the Ranger has twice the torque and does 0-60 in about 6.2 sec versus 8.5 for the Taco. None of the midsizers have a luxurious interior, why pretend?
@@hermatred572 nothing wrong with the Taco powertrain, but I get about 24 mpg combined in the Ranger and the Taco v6 has no torque. Literally any video and owner will tell you that you have to rev it to get it moving or to pass. The old 4.0 had more torque. Also doesn't hurt that the Ranger is made in the US, not Mexico and that the Ranger has the highest American content according to studies.
I just got my Lariat Tremor a few weeks ago. I am very pleased. I like it better than my ‘18 Tacoma TRD Off Road. It’s very responsive and I’m averaging 19-20mpg in mixed use driving. I’m the primary driver and occasionally have wife and dogs with me. No need for F150.
It’s always good to seeing a car reviewer highlighting the true pros and cons of a vehicle, as well as reviewing the underbody. No other car reviewers offer this level of information in the automotive world. I sincerely hope your channel reaches 1 million subscribers in the future, and I’ll be looking forward to your future reviews. Whenever you get the chance, will you do a fully in-depth review on the new Chevrolet Suburban (Preferably the High Country with the saddle brown interior and midnight blue metallic exterior paint) and the updates it received for the 2022 MY? I’ve found your original Tahoe and Escalade reviews to be very informative and entertaining as well, and I would like to see you and Jack do a review on the oldest automotive nameplate as well, and take footage of it during early evening, morning and afternoon times for us to fully admire its LED head and tail lamp designs.
Mark: too much sitting, not enough exercise, and overeager wiping could be causes. Try exercising core muscles and utilize flushable wet wipes in your cleaning routine.
The European model with 4 cylinder diesel and 6 speed automatic is pretty decent. Really slow and feels cheap af but it also was cheap so I don't mind :D
Still love my 2019 XLT FX4 ! Its an older platform, but It does exactly what I needed it to do. Something that I can bang around and not worry about getting dirty. Took it on a 12 hour trip to NC, and my girlfriend thought it was super comfortable to ride in.
"Poverty Spec"... that would make a great bed decal. It feels old because it is old and its pretty cheap looking but priced like a full sized F150 a couple years ago. I think its a good looking middle size truck but not enough there to make me want to go buy one. The interior is really sad. The drive shaft looks like an oversize toothpick. I think your assessment was spot on. Ford drug their feet before the brought this aged design to the states and all they have done is come up with some really goofy sticker packages. Its a fish out of water and won't sell like the old rangers. How about a Torquey NA V6 with a manual and a modern interior and improved NVH / Quality? They might triple their sales... oops too late.
Seriously, just put a 4L V6 in it, and it'd be a perfect truck. Ford's got us all fucked up with the pricing, though. Same with the Colorado. Better off buying a full sized truck.
I think I made a great decision when I bought my Ranger Lariat Tremor. There isn’t another midsized truck on the market with a gas turbo. I’m going to be driving in the mountains on the east coast and a naturally aspirated engine can’t really compete. Great video.
Best midsize truck (if you actually use it as one and don’t compare it to the interiors of SUVs, which has a much different buyer) on the market. Great power plant. Best in class payload. A riding position for folks who aren’t “short kings” 😅. It just needs better tires for off-road use. Interior sucks, but whatever, at least it’s functional.
I agree… I think the interior is fine and nicer that the other midsize trucks out there. I test drove the new frontier and that wasn’t any better either.
Which is a major problem given that trucks in the USA are consistently overloaded for the braking system. These insane people will kill someone eventually.
Got mine on Saturday. Had a Tacoma off road with my name on it, went to a ford dealership to test drive the ranger tremor and was ready to cross it off my list and reassure myself that the taco was the right choice. Walked in and told the salesman that I wasn’t buying a truck that day, but I walked out with the keys. What a great experience and I’m so glad that I got the tremor. It literally had 11miles on it when I drove it home. Cheers brother!
I’ve really liked the ranger since it came out. I don’t understand why some reviewers don’t. I test drove it and I’ve seen that most who buy one really like it
Absolutely loving my Ranger FX4 (after I got my Fox 2.0's). Just hit the tow button, lock out 9 & 10, and it's a whole different transmission. Some even claim better mpg though I've not tested that myself. Off road, I constantly defy all the neigh sayers. (Up to the limits of my A/T tires)
I'm right there with you, Brett. I have a 2021 FX4 with the Ford leveling kit and pretty much everything else is stock. I've been taking it out off road and it is more than capable for some of the pretty rough stuff I've put it through so far. BTW, take a look at the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires. I have the 265/65/R17 because I wanted to keep the stock wheel well clearance. Those tires are fantastic and very quiet so far.
I just got a 2023 Ranger Tremor XLT, and ive only experienced the positives that you mention and none of the cons, sorry i absolutely love this thing. No competition period
I own a Tremor. I don't think I would've got one if I didn't need one. But, if you need a pickup, you want something reliable, you want good towing capacity compared to the competition, AND you actually live in an area with good offroading... then the Tremor is probably the best truck for that - it's the only jack of all trades in its class IMO.
I'm not sure why this truck exists when you could just get an f-150. The thing is basically the same size and price as the f-150... it isn't even a small truck anymore.
Bought a Ranger in mid-Oct the equivalent F-150 is 10k more. I paid about 34.6k and the F-150 would've been closer to 44k. It's really much closer to the early 2000's F150 in size, like parked next to a 2000 YM F150 and it's about the same, in my opinion, right size.
If your searching for a new truck in the $25,000-$35,000 range, the question becomes why would you buy an f150 when the ranger exists? To put it in perspective a regular cab XL 2wd f150 with no options is like $30,000 and it still comes with roll up windows... like, come on Ford. I’m pretty sure you can buy a 4WD ranger with that money.
Don't remember exact measurements, but the Ranger is about a foot narrower than the F-150. And it's about 6" shorter. The narrowness makes it drive a lot easier in cities or on winding country roads.
My Military Training Instructor had one of these, I asked him why a ranger? He said discounts trainee, discounts. Seems to be the only way to actually sell these.
They can't keep them in stock. Trucks as a whole in the US are selling non stop. Even resale is insane on all trucks. I personally love my Ranger coming from a Tacoma. Nothing is perfect, but I am 6'3 and I actually fit in this thing. Also I live in Wyoming and in mountains turbo does so much better than my NA in my Tacoma. I did love selling my Tacoma for almost what I paid for it and it was reliable, but two years into my Ranger and no issues. Everyone has different preferences.
They can't keep them in stock because dealers aren't ordering them. I thought about one, but it was an 80 mile drive to a dealer with an FX4 or nearly 200 miles to a Tremor. Tons of poverty spec ones though. Companies that need to haul a lot of equipment, but don't do particularly hard work like these trucks (exterminators, cable companies, pool servicers).
@@redhammer92 It is just an insane time in the automotive industry and Trucks are at the top of the insanity. I sold my 2012 Tacoma for about 5 grand less than I bought it new. I take good care of my vehicles, but that is nuts. Ranger I paid cash and the NADA value is like 1000 less than I paid for it in '20. Never seen anything like it.
@@juniorlewalski4393 You're better off buying a Ranger if you physically need something smaller than a full-size truck. For the price you're paying for a Ranger Tremor, you can get a lot of F-150 if you know that size will not be an issue.
My Tremor drivetrain is smooth as could be and none of that mentioned high gear luggin stuff. The 19 tacoma i traded in had ridiculous driveline vibes (shook seats above 65mph). I’m thrilled with 18mpg, tacoma got 15/16 and was always luggy and in too high of gear.
@@tigertenis4433 no seriously you'r right. I own one and it's a very good truck, I have had 0 issues with it and the interior is comfortable, but these little girls want leather.
I’ve only got about 9,000 miles on my Tremor, but I have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the driveline stuff. Mine is smooth. And I sit back and watch TRD Pro’s get stuck in the beach as I drive by them.
I had two Ford Rangers which were pre-2011 that I drove into the ground. Both had the 4.0 engine and handled well. In 2011 Ford stopped producing the Ranger to chase the large pickup truck market which I was not interested in. That was the end of my liking for Fords. Never again, regardless of what they produce. I was a loyal customer that got abandoned.
@@smarticus6384 Since the Ranger was out of production, as I mentioned, I bought a new Chev. Colorado. Regretted it after 6K miles. Transmission problems, CAT problems and just a mess. Sold it and bought my first Subaru Outback. So far so good.
I got a pretty much fully loaded, slightly used 2019 XLT last year for $32,000 before the used car market went crazy. At that price point the lack of refinement is more forgivable. I got it as basically a do it all type of vehicle and it has been serving it's purpose well. I didn't want a full sized land yacht but comparing my Ranger to my brother's 2021 F150, it's night and day in terms of refinement. The new Ranger reveal will be happening later this month so I'm curious to see what they'll do.
Did the same thing this year, 17500 miles, loaded XLT FX4 for 34k out the door. Didn't want a full-size, wanted to reliably tow 5k (which killed the Ridgeline and Maverick), hated the driving position and powertrain on the Tacoma, Frontier had a recall already on their 9 speed, and pricing on the Colorado/Canyon was awful out here. Interior on the Ranger is pretty trash, but the powertrain feels great and so far it's doing everything I need it to do pretty comfortably. If Honda wasn't still putting a timing belt in the 3.5 and dropping the interval to under 60k on it when used to tow combined with the 9 speed that people claim gets very hot and smokes its fluid at 4-5k towing I would have gotten it because it was so much more refined and smooth to drive.
I have my own Ranger Tremor and I’m also a ford Technician so I know how to diag drivetrain shutters and hesitations and I’ve never experienced those. Now I’ve only had mine for 5200Km but still. I’ve had Tacoma owners come into the truck and say the ride feels 100 times better in my truck than theirs. Might have just been the specific truck you had. Promo trucks are usually driven tougher than traditional newly bought trucks. Also you said fuel economy is bad and then floored it.. I do agree it’s not the greatest but you def didint help the average with flooring it 3-4times
I moved back to Europe and just ordered a Hilux Duty 2.4D. You can give away Ford Ranger for free and no one will touch them. I have employee benefits and could order one for almost 40% off list. There are literally thousands in stock all over Germany, that’s why you see them on job site, communal service and public service. They pretty much get them for free from Ford just to keep the plant in production. Edit; waiting time for the Hilux is 12 months and only got the discount because of my work benefits. If you walk in you will not get any discounts whatsoever. Mine is only the duty with steel wheels, the upper trim are even longer wait
I have a Ranger XLT FX4. You get most of the hardware upgrades mentioned here for half the price with the FX4 package. I do not experience any bothersome driveline vibrations. I do notice that in town and on back roads the transmission behaves better in Sport than drive. The interior is cheap compared to Jeep or Nissan; as a reviewer you have to call it out, but it doesn't creak or rattle and in daily use it doesn't bother me. The fuel efficiency is considerably lower than advertised. But the ergonomics are great, the power is right, and it does all the truck stuff without complaint. Thanks to reviewers trashing the cheapness, resale price is lower than the competition, made it an easy choice when I was looking for a lightly used truck.
@@Sweet-mz7olFor the current generation, I was super disappointed with how sluggish the Colorado felt, its poor fuel economy, and how ancient the infotainment is. I'm hopeful for the redesign.
Can’t even tow 5K with the ridgeline and it has several hundreds lbs less payload than the Ranger. That’s not to say that many Ranger buyers wouldn’t be better off with the Ridgeline, but the reasons to get a Ranger over it are quite clear in the numbers.
I grew up in a Ford family and I've been a Ford fan my whole life. My first new car was a brand new 2002 Ford Focus that I convinced my place of employment to get as my "company car." In 2007, I left the company and bought the Focus from them for super cheap. In 2008, I bought a Honda S2000 to add to my garage as my "fun" car. It gave me a taste of what "could be" outside of the Ford camp. In 2016, I replaced the Focus with a Fiesta ST and to this day I absolutely adore it. This may be the end of the road for me and Ford. I just don't know what they make that appeals to me anymore. I haven't driven a modern Mustang but the form factor is lacking in utility, and I don't want a truck. I feel like Ford isn't interested in me as a customer anymore. I love my S2000, but I don't feel like Honda makes a car like that anymore, either: Look at the new Integra reveal. Frankly, I don't think anyone can make a car like what I want: Fun to drive with a great sound and handling that makes me feel like a hero even when I'm going slow, and space to transport stupid retro shit I shouldn't be buying. But maybe that's okay. Every generation has had "their ideal car" taken from them. There were the huge land-boats with fins, the big block insane horsepower cars, the fuel-crunch misers that Japan brought to us that were "done right" at the time, the rise of turbocharging (my very-very first high school car was a Merkur XR4Ti, way before I cared about cars, and I would love to try one of those cars again), then the refinement of turbocharging and handling, then the return to naturally aspirated, high-revving precision-driving instruments, then the small, nimble, and light turbocharged cars, and now economic turbocharged torque monsters again. Eventually something all of us want will show up again. It'll just take a bit of time.
I've lived in Europe (as a Czech) most of my life. European ford is a bit different. Dad had a 2011 Mondeo (that brother still drives) in diesel, fantastic car - it's the European Fusion... Mom had 2009 Focus diesel, also was great. In the US, I had a 98 Escort, great. Now I have a 2019 Bullitt. It's just me and my wife and as a daily (and also track beast) it's fantastic. Wife picked up 2017 F150 used. We aren't loaylist and crazy Ford people, but from what I've experienced, the vehicles in my life that carried Ford badge have been great. That being said, I totally see your point. Mustang isn't for everyone, so unless you want a truck or a big honking thing, Ford is no longer for you I'm afraid. :(
Interesting, ive owned a 2020 ranger xlt for about a year now. Before I purchased i drove all midsized trucks excluding the gladiator (price automatically made it not an option) and colorado (known transmission issue leading to class action lawsuit). So that technically left me with Ranger, tacoma, ridgeline, and frontier. The ranger drove better than all of them, had more power with better gas mileage, better tow/load ratings, and subjectively looked a bit better than all but the tacomas (its just a bit more aggressive stock). The drivetrain doesnt have these issues that you described and for comparison almost every other reviewer says the drivetrain/power train is best in this class. The only concern i have is if any major repairs will need to happen around 80-100k due to the direct injection design. I dont regret the decision in the slightest.
Ordered a 2022 ranger tremor can't wait for it to come in . The 2021 rangers I drove didn't have any problems like thay talked about now my Chevy 1500 was a different story
It clearly does have the best drivetrain in the class. This guy is not a truck guy and has not compared it to the competition. You can't find one TH-cam review that talks about the tranny issues he's complaining about?
Except that these aren't simpler. A finnicky turbocharged engine with a poorly programmed 10A transmission, leaking axle seals, $1,500 taillights that take months to get replacements for... I dumped my Ranger after 4 months because I couldn't stand paying $38,000 for a half-baked vehicle. If you want an old simple truck you're better off with a basic Tacoma or the outgoing Frontier.
I'm wondering if it's because this generation has been in other countries since 2012 when they stopped producing the previous gen Ranger. This body style is pretty dated so I'm hoping the next gen Ranger will fill in that gap.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 the 2022 Ranger is an international product and will be available in the USA at the similar timeframe to the rest of the world.
11:19 What they are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
I would buy a Frontier over this Ranger. I am sure the next Ranger upgrade will be excellent. Ford did a great job on the F150, Bronco, and Maverick. Ranger is next!
I own a 2012 Frontier now, tows 6300 lbs. The new one has less capacity which is a no go for me since I tow a RV. I really like the new look and the V6 is appealing, but I do not want anything turbo charged and the price of the Ford is just crazy.
I've had this truck before. Traded the 19 for a 2021 Toyota tundra 1794 brown because I didn't want to miss out on the V8 before the Toyota switch to twin turbos. When I had this truck I mean it was easy to use. It isn't bad. It's got leather and it was pretty cosy overall.
I'm glad to see you guys Revisit the Ranger on the XLT Trim, even though I will still Tout the STX Package on the XL Trim until the Heat-Death of the Earth. If I'm honest, the Ranger Tremor is at least a Welcome Addition to the Ranger Lineup. I know people want the Ranger Raptor, but IMO, with the Ranger, It feels like you get more with less, so the Tremor Package should be well-suited for some buyers on the Market. I still think the STX FX2 or FX4 Models are the BEST Value in terms of Features, Capability, and Price ($35K for an STX FX2 and $40K for the STX FX4), but the XLT Tremor Package is, from my perspective, in the Discussion for BEST Off-Road Mid-Size Truck. It's up there with the Tacoma TRD Off-Road, the New Frontier PRO4X, and the Colorado ZR2 Bison. I'm still iffy on the 2.3L Ecoboost 4-Cylinder Engine. Yes, it's Got EXCELLENT Torque and Acceleration, but Reliability remains a major concern to me. It's been about 2 Years, but I still need more time to Determine if this Engine will be 'As Reliable as a Natural V6', as some Ford Fanboys will claim. Add In a 10-Speed Transmission that feels like 'WAY too many Gears' for a Turbo-Charged 4-Cylinder, and I'm left wondering if Ford Really knew what they were doing with the Ranger in terms of the Engine and Transmission. Overall, the Ford Ranger is STILL, IMO, a Truck with an Identity Crisis. It STILL does not know what it wants to be. A Family or Basic Living Truck? We have the Maverick. An Off-Road Machine? We have the Bronco. A Fully-Functional Work or Luxury Truck? We have the F-150. The Ranger feels like it's just.... There. I still LOVE the Truck, and enjoy whenever I get the chance to Test-Drive One of these, But I've Owned a 2017 Toyota Tacoma SR 4-Cylinder RWD for Two Years Now, and I'm still NOT Convinced to Go for anything better, considering my needs. It feels like Ford is Targeting TOO SPECIFIC of an Audience with the Ford Ranger, Hence why I still see more F-150's on the Road than I do Rangers. I REALLY want this Truck to Succeed, I really do. But the Trends and Purchase Decisions of the BUYER Matter, and I still think the Ranger Falls Short on too many fields to be a SOLID PICK for most people's Needs. Fantastic Video as Always Savagegeese. I look forward to whatever comes next. SoundFX09, Signing Out!
01:10 is the quality level of detail I come here for, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.... EDIT: As a European, I think many of the problems you guys described go unnoticed here. The old Ranger was the perfect-sized truck for many business doing light hauling work, as well as for government agencies like the forestry service or border patrols, where an SUV was expensive to use. And I think it'll stay that way for a while too, explaining also why Ford or Toyota have kept the old platforms. It's a similar scenario to the Crown Vic being used well-beyond its intended life-span simply because it was a very good tool for a very specific set of jobs. The Maverick is too nice on the interior for fleets to buy and lacks the sturdiness of the Ranger, while the Bronco, albeit an excellent niche off-roader for enthusiasts, will not attract fleet buyers either since it's more expensive. The final factor is the F-150. It'll technically do everything a Ranger does, but better: it tows more, hauls more, has durable power-trains that are highly customizable, etc. But the reality is, it only works in very few places in the world outside of the US. The Aussies are probably the other good market for it, but the infrastructure in many countries simply doesn't deal well with their width and weight. They, ironically, offer too much, no one needs to carry or tow as much as they can 80% of the time, so ownership is restricted to folks who have a thing for Americana or specific businesses who do some heavy-duty work. For everyone else though, the Ranger is the perfect size. You even pointed out during the driving segment, Americans see the Ranger as a mid-size truck, but here it's pretty much full-size, with anything larger being just excessive (I'm not even gonna get into the likes of the Chevy Kodiak of the Ford F 600 and 700 series, which are unfathomable to most people here).
Guys i have owned every pickup truck under the sun,racked up hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles on them all and I have to say if you're a real pickup guy that really uses a truck to do everything the ranger is probably the best all around pickup in all light to regular duty pickup you can get for the money its the Goldie locks of pickups boys.nice job as usual
You absolutely nailed in in the transmission shifting. I drove a new 2022 Ranger XLT Tremor yesterday that just arrived at the dealer. I liked the ride, styling, and engine. I could even live with the interior, but the transmission shifting and still having a physical key are enough to wait for 2023 model Ranger or Canyon.
Why would anyone spend this much for a mid size truck? If you want to tow you can get an F150 right around the same price. If you want to go off road then get the Bronco for 10k less that's way more capable. If you just need a truck to move large relatively light things then get the Maverick. I swear for every good idea Ford has they make 2 bad ideas that put them back into irrelevance
Ford transmission tuning has often been like this. I’ve had many and understand what your saying. Example, My last vehicle was a GM and it’s trans calibration was great compared to my Fords.
I drive an old 2004 f350 with the triton v10 at my job and that truck is always trying to stay in way too low of RPMs. It doesn't even have a tow mode to increase the RPMs, just an overdrive. So when I tow 5,000+ pounds with it I will barely be able to accelerate up a slight incline because it's stuck at 1200 RPMs. Sometimes flooring it will force it to shift down but yeah.... Ford automatic transmissions suck to drive.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow I have a 2013 f150 with a 3.5 ecoboost and it drives nice with that 6 speed auto. The high torque at low rpm makes it nice to drive.
11:19 What you guys are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
Here for the honest auto journalism and I am never disappointed. Thanks for putting honest and amazing information. Call out the mess and the auto maker will (hopefully) make a better product. I only wished for a longer video. Haha Keep up the great work!
Well, I guess the advantage of it feeling 2 generations old is that we're not working out the engineering bugs. I have a 2021 FX4 with the Ford leveling kit, MT Baja Boss tires and it's taking everything I've thrown at it off road so far. Coming up on 19k miles, I think the Ranger series is the best compromise between off roading, daily driving, payload and towing capacity, mileage, speed/torque, reliability and cost. It would be cool to see the US market get a real Rapture. I guess they decided to hold off for a whole new redesign before they do that.
11:19 What you guys are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
Funny how I love my Tremor Ranger XLT and have no complaints about the trucks interior because it’s a truck… not a luxury vehicle. 39K for mine and I’ve seen some pay less on others reviews comment section. It’s a great deal and more then just “incremental” upgrades old boy. The seats are great btw. I don’t even think about my old 2014 Tremor F150 anymore.
They are right! I don't mind the interior, better than chevy and toyota, but the vibrations! I have a 2021 Ranger XLT and you can feel those vibration like he says, it feels so bad, very annoying, sport helps but you can still feel it sometimes. The way the truck looks is amazing though, love the stance and perfect size for most. I just wish they tuned the transmission/drivetrain better.
I agree with what you said about the fuel economy features not being that effective and putting too much strain on the engine & drivetrain. I disabled the start/stop feature in my gladiator the second day after I got it, and I am still able to average 25-30 MPG overall. Fuel economy is over 75% how you drive. I wish they would stop putting these features in new cars pretending that they improve fuel economy.
Seems like a really good off road truck. I don’t know why it gets so much hate, but I haven’t driven one. The Tacoma sells like hot cakes, but it’s slow ancient and thirsty. Taco should be able to match 19.7, though. Ranger is getting excellent reliability scores.
I have a 19 Ranger and I work in the industry so I'm extremely familiar with this truck and the competition. I weighed my options and also took into consideration the discounts available which no one seems to comment on in these videos but it was a simple choice for me. I don't know what they are talking about, regarding the 35mph vibration. The transmission, sometimes has an abrupt shift on occasion but the overall smoothness, excellent acceleration, and quiet cabin make for an extremely comfortable ride. Towing and payload numbers make this thing an absolute beast. Yes, the screen is super laggy which did drive me crazy but I spent most of my time using Android auto which works great. At 25k miles, I'd do it all over again over the Colorado, the much more expensive Taco, the frontier, and especially the Ridgeline.
Almost seems like the compact/mid-size pre- 1/2T truck market is nowadays built to be purposefully older, even keel and antiquated even. For the it-just-works crowd yet don't want to take any shine away from the fuller sized trucks.. A good thing with 'diahrrea proof' interiors is that you can feel relaxed about opening up the doors and windows to elements when in the outdoors or a site- easy to wipedown when done no suede or finicky fabrics to worry about. oddly my 1991 Ranger xlt had a lush velour scarlett red interior! that, i couldn't get mudded up inside haha. today's styling- is all about dark interiors
The Ranger Tremor is a fantastic truck. It is by far the best "all arounder" mid sized body on frame truck you can buy in the states right now. The ride is very smooth and compliant. The power train is also smooth and works well. I don't know what these guys are on about. The interior is a bit spartan, but not that bad at all. The audio system is definitely meh though.
Excellent job touching on the drivetrain vibration. Even the cameras picked it up, because it is that bad. I test drove one of these pre-pandemic and mentioned it to the salesman at McCarthy Ford, and he said everyone brings it up and they “all” do it (noting it wasn’t just the truck I test drove.) It’s really unbelievable 2 years later Ford hasn’t addressed the transmission tuning (possibly because it would have to revise fuel economy numbers) or added vibration isolators in strategic locations. It’s as if Ford is intentionally sabotaging the Ranger. Alas, the pandemic happed right as I was about to buy a used Avalanche, and that fell through, and since have put a down payment on the Maverick. With two kids all I need is a small quad cab and a small bed, and the Maverick, which wasn’t announced until a year ago, I’m happy I waited. Hopefully Ford is able to fill my preorder by the end of the year.
Ranger looks a lot better when you consider its direct non-Maverick competition. The class sucks right now as Colorado/Tacoma are nearly as ancient. The Frontier is probably the best option at the moment, but I wish it hit better EPA figures. 2023 redesigns for Taco/Colorado/Ranger will determine the future of the segment.
This Sunday upload goes perfectly with my overpriced toasted Patagonia latte Mark. ☕️
Considering your absolutely vicious take down of this truck the first time, and deservedly so, I’m surprised your Ford rep gave you another one. Good work.
You don't learn from your mistakes if you try to bury them. The reveal of the 2022/2023 Ranger (2022 Worldwide, most likely 2023 NA) shows that this Ranger may make up for the 2019's faults. I like my 2019 Ranger, it's a good vehicle, but I personally wanted a hybrid powertrain for my next vehicle, so I went with the F-150 Powerboost. Was gonna buy a Lightning, but there's a 3 year lead time on that...
Ford held back with the current Ranger to save F150 sales and they’re paying for it. People won’t switch from Tacomas or Colorados for the current Ranger. Now they put themselves in a spot where the new Ranger will have to be a lot better but will have to compete with the Maverick and Bronco, as well as the ridiculous current car prices.
@@TheKingOfHalo I switched and it wasn't even a close call. I live in Wyoming and I am 6'3. First the turbo/powertrain doesn't lose power at elevation like my Tacoma did. Also the seating position and visibility is hundreds of times better than the Tacoma. I drive my Ranger and I am shocked at how much better it is than my '13 Tacoma TRD Off road.was. Is the Ranger perfect? F no. It is light years better than my Tacoma for MY needs. yes.
@@TheKingOfHalo i literally switched from a 12Tacoma TRD Off Road. First. Cabin. I am 6'3 and I never fit in my Tacoma and actually got clautrophobia in that thing. 2. I live in Wyoming and at altitude the turbo is a gazillion time better than the tacomas NA..not the mention the entire powertrain is way better. 3. Tacoma had two warranty repairs in first 12K miles (AC went out and leaking shock). 26K on my 20 Ranger Lariat FX4 with zero issues. Nope..I am good with my Ranger and it ain't even close.
I've had 2 of these. I had a 2019 XLT FX4 and currently a 2022 XLT Tremor. I will say both trucks have been rock solid. Extremely reliable. Maybe the design is considered "old" but it's bulletproof as far as I'm concerned. I'll take a proven, tough design over "soft touch" interior all day long.
The Ford Fiesta of trucks. Ford knows cheap interiors and knows them well.
I just bought a 21' Ranger and I'm not denying the interior isn't "cheap," but I picked up the Ranger in equivalent spec to a Tacoma for several grand less and the Ranger still has a much better powertrain than the Tacoma. Edit for the Taco fanboys - reliability being equal the Ranger has twice the torque and does 0-60 in about 6.2 sec versus 8.5 for the Taco.
None of the midsizers have a luxurious interior, why pretend?
When you put it like that this truck makes a lot more sense
@@myyoutubename152 the 2gr slaps what are you on?
@@hermatred572 don't really know what he's on about. The 2gr is about bulletproof
@@hermatred572 nothing wrong with the Taco powertrain, but I get about 24 mpg combined in the Ranger and the Taco v6 has no torque. Literally any video and owner will tell you that you have to rev it to get it moving or to pass. The old 4.0 had more torque. Also doesn't hurt that the Ranger is made in the US, not Mexico and that the Ranger has the highest American content according to studies.
I just got my Lariat Tremor a few weeks ago. I am very pleased. I like it better than my ‘18 Tacoma TRD Off Road. It’s very responsive and I’m averaging 19-20mpg in mixed use driving. I’m the primary driver and occasionally have wife and dogs with me. No need for F150.
It’s always good to seeing a car reviewer highlighting the true pros and cons of a vehicle, as well as reviewing the underbody. No other car reviewers offer this level of information in the automotive world. I sincerely hope your channel reaches 1 million subscribers in the future, and I’ll be looking forward to your future reviews.
Whenever you get the chance, will you do a fully in-depth review on the new Chevrolet Suburban (Preferably the High Country with the saddle brown interior and midnight blue metallic exterior paint) and the updates it received for the 2022 MY? I’ve found your original Tahoe and Escalade reviews to be very informative and entertaining as well, and I would like to see you and Jack do a review on the oldest automotive nameplate as well, and take footage of it during early evening, morning and afternoon times for us to fully admire its LED head and tail lamp designs.
This is because these guys are auto journalists that don't get paid to review cars.
The difference is that influencers are paid to review cars.
Your request is a little too specific
Man, this surprise Sunday Timeslot is amazing 🙏🏾🧘♀️
Very informative listening material 1:10
Hope you recover soon Mark!
Lol, he mentioned you can obliterate the interior with mud & diarrhea with no problems.
@@haamidwilliams1503 the gentle weaving of a tale that is the art of storytelling
the bluetooth device is "full engorgement"
Mark: too much sitting, not enough exercise, and overeager wiping could be causes. Try exercising core muscles and utilize flushable wet wipes in your cleaning routine.
The European model with 4 cylinder diesel and 6 speed automatic is pretty decent. Really slow and feels cheap af but it also was cheap so I don't mind :D
Just don't crush the truck!
Can you put 1000 nails in the bed?
Oh hi Press! Nice to see you here. Crush a truck! Hahaha
I do like the model with the 3.2l 5 cylinder diesel 😌
The 2.0 diesel comes with 10 speed auto.
Still love my 2019 XLT FX4 ! Its an older platform, but It does exactly what I needed it to do. Something that I can bang around and not worry about getting dirty. Took it on a 12 hour trip to NC, and my girlfriend thought it was super comfortable to ride in.
You guys need to review the new Nissan frontier
expect it..in 2024.
"Poverty Spec"... that would make a great bed decal. It feels old because it is old and its pretty cheap looking but priced like a full sized F150 a couple years ago. I think its a good looking middle size truck but not enough there to make me want to go buy one. The interior is really sad. The drive shaft looks like an oversize toothpick. I think your assessment was spot on. Ford drug their feet before the brought this aged design to the states and all they have done is come up with some really goofy sticker packages. Its a fish out of water and won't sell like the old rangers. How about a Torquey NA V6 with a manual and a modern interior and improved NVH / Quality? They might triple their sales... oops too late.
I think the interior is nicer than the other midsize trucks out there
The ford maverick is going to kill the ranger.
Seriously, just put a 4L V6 in it, and it'd be a perfect truck.
Ford's got us all fucked up with the pricing, though. Same with the Colorado. Better off buying a full sized truck.
I feel like if HBO had an automotive review show it would be this.
I think I made a great decision when I bought my Ranger Lariat Tremor. There isn’t another midsized truck on the market with a gas turbo. I’m going to be driving in the mountains on the east coast and a naturally aspirated engine can’t really compete. Great video.
Best midsize truck (if you actually use it as one and don’t compare it to the interiors of SUVs, which has a much different buyer) on the market. Great power plant. Best in class payload. A riding position for folks who aren’t “short kings” 😅. It just needs better tires for off-road use. Interior sucks, but whatever, at least it’s functional.
I agree… I think the interior is fine and nicer that the other midsize trucks out there. I test drove the new frontier and that wasn’t any better either.
My neighbor has one of these, seems like a decent little truck. Seen him pulling huge boats with it before so it’s definitely capable.
Which is a major problem given that trucks in the USA are consistently overloaded for the braking system. These insane people will kill someone eventually.
@@tylerbetthauser7647 my thoughts as well. seeing even tahoes pulling shit most likely 5k over gvwr riding on the bumpstops at 70mph is terrifying.
Yea just because people could tow something doesn't mean they should.
@@tylerbetthauser7647 the boats aren’t big to the point it’s overloaded haha. I’m talking 18-23 foot center consoles, nothing absurd.
@@tylerbetthauser7647 they have a 7,000lb towing capacity
I love my Tremor. I’ve had zero issues. And there are a lot of people getting rid of their Tacoma’s to get into a Tremor.
Got mine on Saturday. Had a Tacoma off road with my name on it, went to a ford dealership to test drive the ranger tremor and was ready to cross it off my list and reassure myself that the taco was the right choice. Walked in and told the salesman that I wasn’t buying a truck that day, but I walked out with the keys. What a great experience and I’m so glad that I got the tremor. It literally had 11miles on it when I drove it home. Cheers brother!
I’ve really liked the ranger since it came out. I don’t understand why some reviewers don’t. I test drove it and I’ve seen that most who buy one really like it
Absolutely loving my Ranger FX4 (after I got my Fox 2.0's). Just hit the tow button, lock out 9 & 10, and it's a whole different transmission. Some even claim better mpg though I've not tested that myself. Off road, I constantly defy all the neigh sayers. (Up to the limits of my A/T tires)
I'm right there with you, Brett. I have a 2021 FX4 with the Ford leveling kit and pretty much everything else is stock. I've been taking it out off road and it is more than capable for some of the pretty rough stuff I've put it through so far. BTW, take a look at the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires. I have the 265/65/R17 because I wanted to keep the stock wheel well clearance. Those tires are fantastic and very quiet so far.
I just got a 2023 Ranger Tremor XLT, and ive only experienced the positives that you mention and none of the cons, sorry i absolutely love this thing. No competition period
Every video mark looks more and more like Dwayne Johnson while Jack has looked 37 since birth.
I own a Tremor. I don't think I would've got one if I didn't need one. But, if you need a pickup, you want something reliable, you want good towing capacity compared to the competition, AND you actually live in an area with good offroading... then the Tremor is probably the best truck for that - it's the only jack of all trades in its class IMO.
I'm not sure why this truck exists when you could just get an f-150.
The thing is basically the same size and price as the f-150... it isn't even a small truck anymore.
Bought a Ranger in mid-Oct the equivalent F-150 is 10k more. I paid about 34.6k and the F-150 would've been closer to 44k. It's really much closer to the early 2000's F150 in size, like parked next to a 2000 YM F150 and it's about the same, in my opinion, right size.
If your searching for a new truck in the $25,000-$35,000 range, the question becomes why would you buy an f150 when the ranger exists? To put it in perspective a regular cab XL 2wd f150 with no options is like $30,000 and it still comes with roll up windows... like, come on Ford. I’m pretty sure you can buy a 4WD ranger with that money.
Don't remember exact measurements, but the Ranger is about a foot narrower than the F-150. And it's about 6" shorter. The narrowness makes it drive a lot easier in cities or on winding country roads.
My Military Training Instructor had one of these, I asked him why a ranger?
He said discounts trainee, discounts. Seems to be the only way to actually sell these.
They can't keep them in stock. Trucks as a whole in the US are selling non stop. Even resale is insane on all trucks. I personally love my Ranger coming from a Tacoma. Nothing is perfect, but I am 6'3 and I actually fit in this thing. Also I live in Wyoming and in mountains turbo does so much better than my NA in my Tacoma. I did love selling my Tacoma for almost what I paid for it and it was reliable, but two years into my Ranger and no issues. Everyone has different preferences.
Thats how truck in general move. The incentives Dodge offered years ago, havent looked around recently, were absurd.
They can't keep them in stock because dealers aren't ordering them. I thought about one, but it was an 80 mile drive to a dealer with an FX4 or nearly 200 miles to a Tremor. Tons of poverty spec ones though. Companies that need to haul a lot of equipment, but don't do particularly hard work like these trucks (exterminators, cable companies, pool servicers).
If you aren't getting like $5K off a truck (pre covid) you are getting taken.
@@redhammer92 It is just an insane time in the automotive industry and Trucks are at the top of the insanity. I sold my 2012 Tacoma for about 5 grand less than I bought it new. I take good care of my vehicles, but that is nuts. Ranger I paid cash and the NADA value is like 1000 less than I paid for it in '20. Never seen anything like it.
Great truck and great drive train. Interior looks nice.
In roughly a year from now the new Ranger will be starting production.
It really will be worth it to wait, judging from spy shots.
Better off with a f150? What can this do that a 150 can't?
@@juniorlewalski4393 It’s cheaper and smaller.
@@juniorlewalski4393 You're better off buying a Ranger if you physically need something smaller than a full-size truck. For the price you're paying for a Ranger Tremor, you can get a lot of F-150 if you know that size will not be an issue.
@@bendriscoll302 the ranger tremor looks cool I would just figure the 150 could do everything this thing can then some
@@matthewp9015 really?
My Tremor drivetrain is smooth as could be and none of that mentioned high gear luggin stuff. The 19 tacoma i traded in had ridiculous driveline vibes (shook seats above 65mph). I’m thrilled with 18mpg, tacoma got 15/16 and was always luggy and in too high of gear.
These guys are biased against ford
interior cheap & dated? its a freakin truck! real men want plain & simple truvks
@@tigertenis4433 no seriously you'r right. I own one and it's a very good truck, I have had 0 issues with it and the interior is comfortable, but these little girls want leather.
As a non truck person 18mpg is a big wow.
I’ve only got about 9,000 miles on my Tremor, but I have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the driveline stuff. Mine is smooth. And I sit back and watch TRD Pro’s get stuck in the beach as I drive by them.
I have the same engine / trans combo in my FX4, I have never had this "vibration", too high a gear issue or any other problem with it. Ever.
You and Jack have created the best automotive review channel on TH-cam. Keep up the good work.
Chrome around the vents so the sun-light can reflect in your eyes 👀👌🏼
Its matte chrome
I had two Ford Rangers which were pre-2011 that I drove into the ground. Both had the 4.0 engine and handled well. In 2011 Ford stopped producing the Ranger to chase the large pickup truck market which I was not interested in. That was the end of my liking for Fords. Never again, regardless of what they produce. I was a loyal customer that got abandoned.
They abandoned everyone except f-150 drivers
After they poached the mustang name and put it on an electric SUV, I gave up on them.
Sounds like my love affair with Chevrolet trucks. Never again.
@@smarticus6384 Since the Ranger was out of production, as I mentioned, I bought a new Chev. Colorado. Regretted it after 6K miles. Transmission problems, CAT problems and just a mess. Sold it and bought my first Subaru Outback. So far so good.
@@smarticus6384 I got burned on a 2012 silverado and haven't looked back. Chevy is dead to me lol
Honesty appreciated as always
I got a pretty much fully loaded, slightly used 2019 XLT last year for $32,000 before the used car market went crazy. At that price point the lack of refinement is more forgivable. I got it as basically a do it all type of vehicle and it has been serving it's purpose well. I didn't want a full sized land yacht but comparing my Ranger to my brother's 2021 F150, it's night and day in terms of refinement. The new Ranger reveal will be happening later this month so I'm curious to see what they'll do.
Did the same thing this year, 17500 miles, loaded XLT FX4 for 34k out the door. Didn't want a full-size, wanted to reliably tow 5k (which killed the Ridgeline and Maverick), hated the driving position and powertrain on the Tacoma, Frontier had a recall already on their 9 speed, and pricing on the Colorado/Canyon was awful out here. Interior on the Ranger is pretty trash, but the powertrain feels great and so far it's doing everything I need it to do pretty comfortably. If Honda wasn't still putting a timing belt in the 3.5 and dropping the interval to under 60k on it when used to tow combined with the 9 speed that people claim gets very hot and smokes its fluid at 4-5k towing I would have gotten it because it was so much more refined and smooth to drive.
That Tremor sticker looks like it came off of a 90's econobox.
And it costs over 15,000 bucks more than the base model. So worth it.
Yeah, even the name "Tremor" is dopey, only slightly better than "TuRD."
The only sticker worse is the Nissan Titan “4x4 Pro”. So lame.
Geeseman on a sunday !
I have my own Ranger Tremor and I’m also a ford Technician so I know how to diag drivetrain shutters and hesitations and I’ve never experienced those. Now I’ve only had mine for 5200Km but still. I’ve had Tacoma owners come into the truck and say the ride feels 100 times better in my truck than theirs. Might have just been the specific truck you had. Promo trucks are usually driven tougher than traditional newly bought trucks. Also you said fuel economy is bad and then floored it.. I do agree it’s not the greatest but you def didint help the average with flooring it 3-4times
I moved back to Europe and just ordered a Hilux Duty 2.4D. You can give away Ford Ranger for free and no one will touch them. I have employee benefits and could order one for almost 40% off list. There are literally thousands in stock all over Germany, that’s why you see them on job site, communal service and public service. They pretty much get them for free from Ford just to keep the plant in production.
Edit; waiting time for the Hilux is 12 months and only got the discount because of my work benefits. If you walk in you will not get any discounts whatsoever. Mine is only the duty with steel wheels, the upper trim are even longer wait
Honestly, only Australians and people from certain parts of Southeast Asia still bother about this crap-pile Ford Ranger.
I have a Ranger XLT FX4. You get most of the hardware upgrades mentioned here for half the price with the FX4 package. I do not experience any bothersome driveline vibrations. I do notice that in town and on back roads the transmission behaves better in Sport than drive. The interior is cheap compared to Jeep or Nissan; as a reviewer you have to call it out, but it doesn't creak or rattle and in daily use it doesn't bother me. The fuel efficiency is considerably lower than advertised. But the ergonomics are great, the power is right, and it does all the truck stuff without complaint. Thanks to reviewers trashing the cheapness, resale price is lower than the competition, made it an easy choice when I was looking for a lightly used truck.
Designed here in Australia. Go easy on us, Ford shut the factory down here so designing these little trucks is all we have now.
Glad we can have diarrhea emergencies in this and be able to sleep soundly at night.
I mean those words are from real life testing by Mr. Goose
Don't underestimate the value of a diarrhea-proof interior -- Ford knows its base.
We do love a good green tea enema.
This being the best that can be had in the uk (I think) it serves to highlight what we are missing out on!
Hyped for the 2023 redesign. Really hoping it gets a larger fuel tank and a mav-like interior.
Yes I'll probably hold out for that redesign or at least wait till it comes out and get a discount on the old model.
Hope it's good. The Chevy Colorado is also set for a redesign in 2023, so the new Ranger better deliver.
@@Sweet-mz7olFor the current generation, I was super disappointed with how sluggish the Colorado felt, its poor fuel economy, and how ancient the infotainment is. I'm hopeful for the redesign.
Why would a buyer want this instead of a Ridgeline?
Can’t even tow 5K with the ridgeline and it has several hundreds lbs less payload than the Ranger. That’s not to say that many Ranger buyers wouldn’t be better off with the Ridgeline, but the reasons to get a Ranger over it are quite clear in the numbers.
I don't know who on earth would spend 40,000 plus dollars on a midsize truck with no luxuries at all. Its quite a conundrum.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow almost every midsize sells above 40k right now for their higher trims. So a lot of people on earth.
A Ridgeline has a plastic bed.
I grew up in a Ford family and I've been a Ford fan my whole life. My first new car was a brand new 2002 Ford Focus that I convinced my place of employment to get as my "company car." In 2007, I left the company and bought the Focus from them for super cheap. In 2008, I bought a Honda S2000 to add to my garage as my "fun" car. It gave me a taste of what "could be" outside of the Ford camp. In 2016, I replaced the Focus with a Fiesta ST and to this day I absolutely adore it.
This may be the end of the road for me and Ford. I just don't know what they make that appeals to me anymore. I haven't driven a modern Mustang but the form factor is lacking in utility, and I don't want a truck. I feel like Ford isn't interested in me as a customer anymore. I love my S2000, but I don't feel like Honda makes a car like that anymore, either: Look at the new Integra reveal. Frankly, I don't think anyone can make a car like what I want: Fun to drive with a great sound and handling that makes me feel like a hero even when I'm going slow, and space to transport stupid retro shit I shouldn't be buying.
But maybe that's okay. Every generation has had "their ideal car" taken from them. There were the huge land-boats with fins, the big block insane horsepower cars, the fuel-crunch misers that Japan brought to us that were "done right" at the time, the rise of turbocharging (my very-very first high school car was a Merkur XR4Ti, way before I cared about cars, and I would love to try one of those cars again), then the refinement of turbocharging and handling, then the return to naturally aspirated, high-revving precision-driving instruments, then the small, nimble, and light turbocharged cars, and now economic turbocharged torque monsters again. Eventually something all of us want will show up again. It'll just take a bit of time.
What about the new gr-86?
I've lived in Europe (as a Czech) most of my life. European ford is a bit different. Dad had a 2011 Mondeo (that brother still drives) in diesel, fantastic car - it's the European Fusion... Mom had 2009 Focus diesel, also was great. In the US, I had a 98 Escort, great. Now I have a 2019 Bullitt. It's just me and my wife and as a daily (and also track beast) it's fantastic. Wife picked up 2017 F150 used. We aren't loaylist and crazy Ford people, but from what I've experienced, the vehicles in my life that carried Ford badge have been great.
That being said, I totally see your point. Mustang isn't for everyone, so unless you want a truck or a big honking thing, Ford is no longer for you I'm afraid. :(
Get the Nissan Z, lot of money, lots of power
sounds like you need a mazda
Sounds like you should look into a Miata.
Interesting, ive owned a 2020 ranger xlt for about a year now. Before I purchased i drove all midsized trucks excluding the gladiator (price automatically made it not an option) and colorado (known transmission issue leading to class action lawsuit). So that technically left me with Ranger, tacoma, ridgeline, and frontier. The ranger drove better than all of them, had more power with better gas mileage, better tow/load ratings, and subjectively looked a bit better than all but the tacomas (its just a bit more aggressive stock). The drivetrain doesnt have these issues that you described and for comparison almost every other reviewer says the drivetrain/power train is best in this class. The only concern i have is if any major repairs will need to happen around 80-100k due to the direct injection design. I dont regret the decision in the slightest.
Ordered a 2022 ranger tremor can't wait for it to come in . The 2021 rangers I drove didn't have any problems like thay talked about now my Chevy 1500 was a different story
It clearly does have the best drivetrain in the class. This guy is not a truck guy and has not compared it to the competition. You can't find one TH-cam review that talks about the tranny issues he's complaining about?
Be careful what you wish for, we might regret it when all these "old" trucks disappear. Some times simpler is ok.
I agree, these trucks are actually really good, I know because I own one.
Except that these aren't simpler. A finnicky turbocharged engine with a poorly programmed 10A transmission, leaking axle seals, $1,500 taillights that take months to get replacements for... I dumped my Ranger after 4 months because I couldn't stand paying $38,000 for a half-baked vehicle. If you want an old simple truck you're better off with a basic Tacoma or the outgoing Frontier.
@@recoil_operated Good point.
Truck looks so outdated and cheap. Appreciate the video on a Sunday! Keep up the good work
This review gives me full engorgement too! Ha love the Easter eggs guys!
I can't wait for the 2022 Intergra video, who's with me🤔
You mean 2022 Civic?
@@myyoutubename152 yes, LOL😄 Can't wait to hear Mark's SNARKY comments about the new ILX😆
November 24th is the global reveal of the next gen Ford Ranger. Hopefully the new one addresses all this stuff.
And while I’m watching this video I get an ad by Ford for their new F150
Genius marketing right there
Ford put a great deal of effort and resources into the return of the Bronco and the Maverick. The Ranger got put in third place in many ways.
I'm wondering if it's because this generation has been in other countries since 2012 when they stopped producing the previous gen Ranger. This body style is pretty dated so I'm hoping the next gen Ranger will fill in that gap.
I'm sure the new generation will be outdated by the time we finally get it in 2030.
@@darthdarthbinkss of course that’s the reason.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 the 2022 Ranger is an international product and will be available in the USA at the similar timeframe to the rest of the world.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 the 2023 Rangers are all new design. And the Ranger Raptor will be available.
I can hear a slight vibration during the driving segment. I can't imagine what it would sound and feel like driving that thing.
My Ford Focus has done the same thing sense 50 k miles it just keeps getting worse.
11:19 What they are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
It's miserable around town and one of the reason I sold my Ranger; it's constantly lugging the engine.
@@recoil_operated what did you end up getting?
@@rockochin we didn't need the bed anymore so we got a '22 Outback
Morning fellas ☕️
Mornin'
Morning
Chill with the fascist imperialism bigot
@@DB-sd3cw we’ll call you ‘those and thems” ok cupcake.
Bro, we goosin' on a Sunday???
I drive one of these at work and I'm not impressed by the overall quality. The "B&O" system sounds like crap.
There's so much salt in this comments section that I'd hesitate to let my Tacoma's frame anywhere near it.
That's how the fanboys of the big 3 American junk piles will always be like, too blind and idiotic.
@@aaronbryan5095 okay Japanese car fanboy
The ranger grabbed my attention for about 3.27 seconds, but then I just bought a 2021 Tacoma. Why not?
The 2023 Ford Ranger is coming out(debuts November 24)--supposed to look more like a mini-F-150. BUT--we don't get it. Yet.
Ford and their insane prices on crap interiors, wow and that 35-40mph buzz, heard it through the audio.
Thanks for another great upload ! Hope to see you around Illinois one day! You guys are are our celebrity car journalists 😝👌 keep it up!
I would buy a Frontier over this Ranger. I am sure the next Ranger upgrade will be excellent. Ford did a great job on the F150, Bronco, and Maverick. Ranger is next!
I own a 2012 Frontier now, tows 6300 lbs. The new one has less capacity which is a no go for me since I tow a RV. I really like the new look and the V6 is appealing, but I do not want anything turbo charged and the price of the Ford is just crazy.
I’m not interested in trucks but I’m watching to support this channel 🙃
I like the more cut and dry descriptions for these run of mill vehicles. Nothing fancy and doesn't need it described otherwise.
I've had this truck before. Traded the 19 for a 2021 Toyota tundra 1794 brown because I didn't want to miss out on the V8 before the Toyota switch to twin turbos. When I had this truck I mean it was easy to use. It isn't bad. It's got leather and it was pretty cosy overall.
I'm glad to see you guys Revisit the Ranger on the XLT Trim, even though I will still Tout the STX Package on the XL Trim until the Heat-Death of the Earth.
If I'm honest, the Ranger Tremor is at least a Welcome Addition to the Ranger Lineup. I know people want the Ranger Raptor, but IMO, with the Ranger, It feels like you get more with less, so the Tremor Package should be well-suited for some buyers on the Market. I still think the STX FX2 or FX4 Models are the BEST Value in terms of Features, Capability, and Price ($35K for an STX FX2 and $40K for the STX FX4), but the XLT Tremor Package is, from my perspective, in the Discussion for BEST Off-Road Mid-Size Truck. It's up there with the Tacoma TRD Off-Road, the New Frontier PRO4X, and the Colorado ZR2 Bison.
I'm still iffy on the 2.3L Ecoboost 4-Cylinder Engine. Yes, it's Got EXCELLENT Torque and Acceleration, but Reliability remains a major concern to me. It's been about 2 Years, but I still need more time to Determine if this Engine will be 'As Reliable as a Natural V6', as some Ford Fanboys will claim. Add In a 10-Speed Transmission that feels like 'WAY too many Gears' for a Turbo-Charged 4-Cylinder, and I'm left wondering if Ford Really knew what they were doing with the Ranger in terms of the Engine and Transmission.
Overall, the Ford Ranger is STILL, IMO, a Truck with an Identity Crisis. It STILL does not know what it wants to be. A Family or Basic Living Truck? We have the Maverick. An Off-Road Machine? We have the Bronco. A Fully-Functional Work or Luxury Truck? We have the F-150. The Ranger feels like it's just.... There. I still LOVE the Truck, and enjoy whenever I get the chance to Test-Drive One of these, But I've Owned a 2017 Toyota Tacoma SR 4-Cylinder RWD for Two Years Now, and I'm still NOT Convinced to Go for anything better, considering my needs. It feels like Ford is Targeting TOO SPECIFIC of an Audience with the Ford Ranger, Hence why I still see more F-150's on the Road than I do Rangers.
I REALLY want this Truck to Succeed, I really do. But the Trends and Purchase Decisions of the BUYER Matter, and I still think the Ranger Falls Short on too many fields to be a SOLID PICK for most people's Needs.
Fantastic Video as Always Savagegeese. I look forward to whatever comes next.
SoundFX09, Signing Out!
Thanks for the insight!
As a filmmaker.
Throwing that slider back there, told me so much about the legroom! 🤣 🤣
01:10 is the quality level of detail I come here for, and I'm sure I'm not the only one....
EDIT: As a European, I think many of the problems you guys described go unnoticed here. The old Ranger was the perfect-sized truck for many business doing light hauling work, as well as for government agencies like the forestry service or border patrols, where an SUV was expensive to use. And I think it'll stay that way for a while too, explaining also why Ford or Toyota have kept the old platforms.
It's a similar scenario to the Crown Vic being used well-beyond its intended life-span simply because it was a very good tool for a very specific set of jobs.
The Maverick is too nice on the interior for fleets to buy and lacks the sturdiness of the Ranger, while the Bronco, albeit an excellent niche off-roader for enthusiasts, will not attract fleet buyers either since it's more expensive.
The final factor is the F-150. It'll technically do everything a Ranger does, but better: it tows more, hauls more, has durable power-trains that are highly customizable, etc. But the reality is, it only works in very few places in the world outside of the US. The Aussies are probably the other good market for it, but the infrastructure in many countries simply doesn't deal well with their width and weight. They, ironically, offer too much, no one needs to carry or tow as much as they can 80% of the time, so ownership is restricted to folks who have a thing for Americana or specific businesses who do some heavy-duty work.
For everyone else though, the Ranger is the perfect size. You even pointed out during the driving segment, Americans see the Ranger as a mid-size truck, but here it's pretty much full-size, with anything larger being just excessive (I'm not even gonna get into the likes of the Chevy Kodiak of the Ford F 600 and 700 series, which are unfathomable to most people here).
Guys i have owned every pickup truck under the sun,racked up hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles on them all and I have to say if you're a real pickup guy that really uses a truck to do everything the ranger is probably the best all around pickup in all light to regular duty pickup you can get for the money its the Goldie locks of pickups boys.nice job as usual
Good shit thanks for preventing me from wasting my hard earned money.
The Ford maverick seems like a much better vehicle for the price. The ranger doesn’t make sense to me. The Maverick does.
You absolutely nailed in in the transmission shifting. I drove a new 2022 Ranger XLT Tremor yesterday that just arrived at the dealer. I liked the ride, styling, and engine. I could even live with the interior, but the transmission shifting and still having a physical key are enough to wait for 2023 model Ranger or Canyon.
Why would anyone spend this much for a mid size truck? If you want to tow you can get an F150 right around the same price. If you want to go off road then get the Bronco for 10k less that's way more capable. If you just need a truck to move large relatively light things then get the Maverick. I swear for every good idea Ford has they make 2 bad ideas that put them back into irrelevance
Lol who's towing or doing anything remotely work related with a truck?
@@difflocktwo lots of people,real question is why suv owners never go off-road?
Ford transmission tuning has often been like this. I’ve had many and understand what your saying. Example, My last vehicle was a GM and it’s trans calibration was great compared to my Fords.
I drive an old 2004 f350 with the triton v10 at my job and that truck is always trying to stay in way too low of RPMs. It doesn't even have a tow mode to increase the RPMs, just an overdrive. So when I tow 5,000+ pounds with it I will barely be able to accelerate up a slight incline because it's stuck at 1200 RPMs. Sometimes flooring it will force it to shift down but yeah.... Ford automatic transmissions suck to drive.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow I have a 2013 f150 with a 3.5 ecoboost and it drives nice with that 6 speed auto. The high torque at low rpm makes it nice to drive.
11:19 What you guys are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
Here for the honest auto journalism and I am never disappointed. Thanks for putting honest and amazing information.
Call out the mess and the auto maker will (hopefully) make a better product.
I only wished for a longer video. Haha
Keep up the great work!
Well, I guess the advantage of it feeling 2 generations old is that we're not working out the engineering bugs. I have a 2021 FX4 with the Ford leveling kit, MT Baja Boss tires and it's taking everything I've thrown at it off road so far. Coming up on 19k miles, I think the Ranger series is the best compromise between off roading, daily driving, payload and towing capacity, mileage, speed/torque, reliability and cost. It would be cool to see the US market get a real Rapture. I guess they decided to hold off for a whole new redesign before they do that.
Music is always on point.
So this is what retired Dana White and Scott Coker are doing nowadays? Review the cars? Awesome! 🙌🏻
The fact that the transmission makes that noise and had that vibration should mean that it is a no go for any buyer. That's extremely bad quality..
11:19 What you guys are talking about is EXACTLY what I feel in wife's used 2017 F150. It has the 3.5 twin-turbo and the 10spd and the transmission programming forces the truck into 7th gear at 35mph, or I think highest gear at lowest speed I noticed was about 42mph in 8th gear (8 out of 10 gears). It feels like a misfire or a bad/oooold diesel and if you need to accelerate or not feel it, you need to either put it in sport mode or push the gas down lot more. It's the only one thing I hate about that truck.
10:45 enjoying the rattling
Funny how I love my Tremor Ranger XLT and have no complaints about the trucks interior because it’s a truck… not a luxury vehicle. 39K for mine and I’ve seen some pay less on others reviews comment section. It’s a great deal and more then just “incremental” upgrades old boy. The seats are great btw. I don’t even think about my old 2014 Tremor F150 anymore.
why does Ford calls it "XL" when "Poverty Spec" has such a nice ring to it
They are right! I don't mind the interior, better than chevy and toyota, but the vibrations! I have a 2021 Ranger XLT and you can feel those vibration like he says, it feels so bad, very annoying, sport helps but you can still feel it sometimes. The way the truck looks is amazing though, love the stance and perfect size for most. I just wish they tuned the transmission/drivetrain better.
Nice lighting in this episode
I agree with what you said about the fuel economy features not being that effective and putting too much strain on the engine & drivetrain. I disabled the start/stop feature in my gladiator the second day after I got it, and I am still able to average 25-30 MPG overall. Fuel economy is over 75% how you drive. I wish they would stop putting these features in new cars pretending that they improve fuel economy.
I love to see an episode of this ranger line compared with the top tier of the Maverick
Thanks for the content suggestion from a reliable source! 3:18
Seems like a really good off road truck. I don’t know why it gets so much hate, but I haven’t driven one. The Tacoma sells like hot cakes, but it’s slow ancient and thirsty. Taco should be able to match 19.7, though. Ranger is getting excellent reliability scores.
i love what he is listening to
Man I just want you guys to make an Amazon music playlist for me to listen to. Always cool and interesting.
I have a 19 Ranger and I work in the industry so I'm extremely familiar with this truck and the competition. I weighed my options and also took into consideration the discounts available which no one seems to comment on in these videos but it was a simple choice for me. I don't know what they are talking about, regarding the 35mph vibration. The transmission, sometimes has an abrupt shift on occasion but the overall smoothness, excellent acceleration, and quiet cabin make for an extremely comfortable ride. Towing and payload numbers make this thing an absolute beast. Yes, the screen is super laggy which did drive me crazy but I spent most of my time using Android auto which works great. At 25k miles, I'd do it all over again over the Colorado, the much more expensive Taco, the frontier, and especially the Ridgeline.
Agreed. My ranger has 0 transmission vibration or noise
Truly high quality content.
Almost seems like the compact/mid-size pre- 1/2T truck market is nowadays built to be purposefully older, even keel and antiquated even. For the it-just-works crowd yet don't want to take any shine away from the fuller sized trucks..
A good thing with 'diahrrea proof' interiors is that you can feel relaxed about opening up the doors and windows to elements when in the outdoors or a site- easy to wipedown when done no suede or finicky fabrics to worry about.
oddly my 1991 Ranger xlt had a lush velour scarlett red interior! that, i couldn't get mudded up inside haha. today's styling- is all about dark interiors
The Ranger Tremor is a fantastic truck. It is by far the best "all arounder" mid sized body on frame truck you can buy in the states right now. The ride is very smooth and compliant. The power train is also smooth and works well. I don't know what these guys are on about. The interior is a bit spartan, but not that bad at all. The audio system is definitely meh though.
Video on a Sunday thank you sir
Great review. Can’t wait to see the refreshed Ranger.
Excellent job touching on the drivetrain vibration. Even the cameras picked it up, because it is that bad. I test drove one of these pre-pandemic and mentioned it to the salesman at McCarthy Ford, and he said everyone brings it up and they “all” do it (noting it wasn’t just the truck I test drove.) It’s really unbelievable 2 years later Ford hasn’t addressed the transmission tuning (possibly because it would have to revise fuel economy numbers) or added vibration isolators in strategic locations. It’s as if Ford is intentionally sabotaging the Ranger.
Alas, the pandemic happed right as I was about to buy a used Avalanche, and that fell through, and since have put a down payment on the Maverick. With two kids all I need is a small quad cab and a small bed, and the Maverick, which wasn’t announced until a year ago, I’m happy I waited. Hopefully Ford is able to fill my preorder by the end of the year.
Love my Ranger I get no weird vibrations. Agree the xlt interior is cheap looking though, Lariat all the way!
Ranger looks a lot better when you consider its direct non-Maverick competition. The class sucks right now as Colorado/Tacoma are nearly as ancient. The Frontier is probably the best option at the moment, but I wish it hit better EPA figures. 2023 redesigns for Taco/Colorado/Ranger will determine the future of the segment.